>yfw you first played Sonic Mania

She looks like my sisiter in law

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I know what Iizuka's face looked like when he first played it.

I thought some of the Genesis games came out in the late 90s?

>>389147678
how many levels does this game have? I dont feel like shelling out $70 for it.

it gave me what was advertised. I was satisfied. But also just satisfied, not stunned or overjoyed

>>389148257
12 zones with 2 acts each zone, also it's $20.

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>>389147678

>>389147678
She looks pretty turned on over Sonic Mania.

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>>389148374

Is this game worth playing?

>>389148257
12 levels, 25 acts.

If you count one of the unlockable modes, there's thousands of those levels.

>>389149026
As someone who grew up with Genesis and classic Sanic games, yes.

>>389147993
Why would he feel internal rage

>>389147678
Doesn't she have sets? Or is that another homely looking asian?

>>389149347

You'd feel rage too if you were a proud Japanese man who tried over and over for 20 years to get something right only to fail every time and then some punk white kids to come along and get it right on the first try, making you look like the biggest idiot in the world.

Is Kayona Kim still around?

>>389147678
People are talking about Genesis era, but Sonic Mania fucking screams Saturn. The music and graphics fucking nailed it.

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>>389149606
>Doesn't she have sets?
She's Kayona Kim. She used to be a Sonic fan artist who did nudes for art trades.

>>389149792
She went innawoods after word got out that she was sending nudes at 15.

>>389150228
never knew about that, just saw a set with some one with the same face.

>>389149161
Which mode are you talking about here, anon?

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>>389147678
>yfw I first played Sonic Mania

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Mania was incredible. I didn't think it'd live up to the hype.

>>389151719
yeah, used to have a collection didn't know about the sonic aspect. Someone just posted a link to the set on /int/ a few years back.

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Sonic Mania is the Force Awakens of Sonic games, it's so devoid of actual creativity that it's an insult to human intellect. Everyone got caught up on the viral marketing hype and are now praising Sonic for being "back".

>most of Mania is just recycled garbage
>very few original levels
>extreme nostalgia pandering when Generations already exists
>rushed development cycle

Give it some time, the real Sonic fans will realize how shit Mania is once the honeymoon period passes. All the posers who pretend to like the Genesis games will keep praising Mania as a 10/10 masterpiece.

>>389152798
All of the levels are original. You're just looking at the aesthetics.

>when Generations already exists

And sucked hard. Nostalgia pandering is all that game had going for it. Mania is the real deal.

>>389152798

Sonic Adventure 2 always sucked and Sonic Adventure 3 will never happen.

>tfw when actually hoping a game sells well for the first time in years
Mania 2 when?!

>>389152798
>Give it some time, the real Sonic fans will realize how shit Mania is once the honeymoon period passes.

No, you're thinking of Sonic Generations. Boy, did the bloom ever blow off of that wilted weed. Oof.

>>389153007
>All of the levels are original. You're just looking at the aesthetics.
All of the levels are also original in Generations, doesn't change the fact the visual motifs are recycled.
>And sucked hard.
Whether or not Generations sucks isn't relevant. My point is SEGA already made a nostalgia pandering game, yet they create Mania to sucker in even more of the "bro I'm such a classic sonic fan xd" crowd. Even fucking Forces has Classic Sonic hamfisted into it.
>Nostalgia pandering is all that game had going for it. Mania is the real deal.
How? Mania is literally just 2D Generations. Call me when Haxman actually develops a full original Classic Sonic game that doesn't rely on callbacks or remixed tracks, then I'll take the game seriously.

>>389153101
Yes? What's your point? The Adventure series is overrated trash.

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>>389151719
>Wasting money on some medicore camwhore when you could be doing financial domination

the game isnt released on PC yet because there is no crack

a pc game with no crack is an unreleased shit

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>>389153769
[email protected]

>>389153636
>Whether or not Generations sucks isn't relevant

Then why did you bring it up to directly compare the two in the first place? Dumbass.

>>389150835
The unlockable version of blue sphere.

>>389150835
Maybe the blue balls one, I'm not sure what he meant

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>another time over to Metal Sonic
Is there a sweet spot where I can easily bounce those little twats directly to him?
I just spent almost 10 minutes dodging shit without being able to hit it more than two times.

>>389153636

He's not "classic sonic" anymore. Hes just Sonic now. The classic Sonic will be the main Sonic going forward (he actually has been for a few years now if you've paid attention).

The green eyed Sonic isn't "modern Sonic" anymore, either. He's just "autistic Sonic". A product of a sad era - known by fans as 'The Dark Ages', only beloved by autistic children and stupid adults.

>>389154104
Don't overcharge your spindash and hit it as Silver Sonic initially starts to charge up his spindash.

I just had a look at her nudes
her body looks very white
is she hapa?

>>389154468

Obviously. Her bright pink nipples are a dead give away.

>>389153953
>Then why did you bring it up to directly compare the two in the first place?
?????

So I'm not allowed to compare the striking marketing similarities between Mania and Generations now? Saying Generations "sucks" isn't a valid argument to why Mania is supposedly a good game. Fuck off retard.

>>389154223
>The classic Sonic will be the main Sonic going forward (he actually has been for a few years now if you've paid attention).
My uncle works at Nintendo, he can also confirm this.

>>389154578
>So I'm not allowed to

You're allowed to do anything you want, but don't call it "not relevant" when you're the one who brought it up in the first place. Dumbass.

>>389154578
>supposedly

Play it, you retard. If you had actually bothered to play it, you wouldn't be sperging out like an idiot right now.

>>389154668

His whole argument is that Sonic Mania is a bad game because Sonic Generations exists. It's safe to say he's an autistic troll.

>>389152798
It's recycled in a pretty enjoyable way though. I also really liked the high variety in the boss battles, and the frequency of them. Besides, S3K, what other sonic game has a bossfight per zone? You'd be a tool to dismiss the game just because of stage recycling.

>>389155024

He doesn't have an argument. Because he's a dumbass.

>>389154565
Even her hair is too light. She looks like those Russian/Siberian chicks with obvious Slav and Asian mixture

>>389147678
>ywn fuck Kayona Kim

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>>389149347
They went too frar and the industry is praising them for it.

>>389154668
>>389155276
>he still doesn't get it
Are you mentally disabled? Not joking, asking seriously. As a brainlet you shouldn't really be putting yourself into mentally challenging discussions when you don't have basic discerning skills.

>>389154807
I did, it plays like a Genesis game. It's hard to fuck-up the gameplay of something that has already been refined almost two decades ago, the only interesting contribution is the drop-dash. Doesn't change the fact that it's visually lazy with all of the filler remixed stages.

You're only lying to yourself if you think any of the remixed content is better than the new shit.

>>389155212
Some of the new boss battle mechanics were OK, I don't really play Sonic games for their bosses though.

>>389155024
The fact that Generations exists already dilutes the quality of Mania. If we had Sonic Mania had come out instead of Generations for the 20th anniversary then Mania's existence wouldn't feel lazy and forced. It's just a nostalgia marketing scam that SEGA is milking. Forces for example, looks like outright trash. Once it gets the negative reviews it deserves SEGA is going to latch onto a new marketing scheme to drain the disability funds of all the retarded Sonic fans.

Kim has such a cute little asshole.

Where does Sonic go from here?

>>389155896

Shut up. Your posting style is annoying. Like that of an obnoxious teenage girl. Nobody can take you seriously.

>>389147993
Didn't he help with Mania

>>389155896

>>389156073
This. Shut up, dumbass.

>>389155962
I'm guessing she just stopped one day and disappeared.

>>389156009
You know where sonic goes from here. You know very well it's next destination. You hope it doesn't, but you know it will

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>>389156073
>>389156171
>literally no counter arguments
>i-it's just a g-good game s-shut up!!!
>these are the kind of retards that eat up SEGA's shitty ROM hacks
HAHAHAHAHA

>>389155896
>The fact that Generations exists already dilutes the quality of Mania.

The fact that your mother and father are obviously brother and sister dilutes the quality of your genes.

For how many years has this Anon been trying to destroy her life now?
I think he first started making these threads in 2009 or something.

>>389156602
> crying because nobody wants to waste time arguing with a dumbass.

Dumbass.

>>389156704
What the hell happened?

>>389156739
You just don't have the mental fortitude to defend your shitty game :^)

>>389156602
I never stop laughing when people point out how nobody is taking the time to argue with them

Sonic Mania is probably the first Sonic game in over 20 years that you don't have to be an autistic Sonic fan to enjoy it. Sonic Racing Transformed doesn't count, though that's a legit good game, too.

>>389157108

Either that or you're a just a dumbass. A dumbass who watched pedophile cartoons, too. Nice little girl gif, dumbass. Don't let your dumbass mother catch you with it.

>>389157281
Don't forget to pack up your lunch for school tommorow Jim-jim, you can play Sonic Mania after you've finished your homework.

>>389157167

I should point out that neither Sonic Mania or Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed were developed by Sonic Team.

Just some food for thought.

Does Sonic Forces deserve the hate?

Even lebbit hated it, that says enough

>>389157493

>no u

Typical dumbass response from a typical dumbass. Where's your argument now, dumbass?

>>389157536
Considering most of the trailers so far have been pretty crappy I'd say it does.

>>389157593
>reddit spacing

>>389157802
>Dumbass spacing

>>389157101
She laughed at his man-meat. She said she saw finger sausages with more girth and length than his.

>>389157938
>

>>389157493
That other anon is right, you do talk like an obnoxious teenage girl.

>>389157497
They're also western.

>>389158045
God damn, why would any one show someone else their micro penis. You can't say you didn't know that you have a micro cock since their is plenty of porn for reference.

>>389156602
I bet you are way more interested in Forces OC creator than anything, right?

>>389158194

He talks like an obnoxious dumbass.

>>389156009
>Sega listens to the fans and they make a totally new 2D classic Sonic game - not likely
>Sega is retarded again and makes another game with recycled assets - more likely
>More 3D shit because autists and furries buy those games - this won't change

>>389152798
>The real Sonic fans

You are definitely a real Sonic fan. A real prime example of one. Nobody will ever deny you that.

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>redpill everyone ITT on why Sonic Mania is a failure of a product
>get instantly hounded on by the Taxman Defense Force who claims he can do no wrong
>keep my composure and respond to all the arguments presented toward my direction
>get blasted with even more ad hominems and non-arguments
So this is the power of the Sonic fanbase, don't forget to collect your disability welfare at the start of the month.

>>389158806

You're a Sonic fan.You stated so yourself. You're just a hopelessly insufferable one.

>>389158806
Who do you trust more with a Sonic game, Sonic Retro or Sonic Team?

>>389147993
Does anyone have the "MRANIA TEAM HAS GONE TOO FAR" comic on them?

>>389158806

Don't forget to collect your dumbass welfare at the start of the month. Dumbass.

>>389153660
How do I get into doing this shit? It sounds like amazingly easy money.

I kept getting hit with a bunch of nostalgia and feels. During Hydrocity Act 2 I had to actually pause the game and take a minute to compose myself. Playing Sonic 3 a ton with my brother is just one of the only memories I have of him from our childhood so it that hit me really hard.

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>>389159003
This one?

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>>389158806
>WAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!! WHY WON'T ANYBODY ENGAGE MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! WAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dreamcast Conversion - Sonic Adventure DX mod

>The interactive Chao Race Entry room from the Dreamcast version has been restored, complete with animations and objects! You can walk around the room like in the original game, and the SADX menu for Chao Race will be loaded when you push the button in the center of the room.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/sadx-dreamcast-conversion/news/update-7-and-wrapping-up-the-dreamcast-project

>>389158806
>keep my composure

You lost it pretty quick desu

>>389159250
>look at this baby picture this is you haha
You could easily shutdown anything I'm saying with just one post if you could prove me wrong. The fact that no one can is proof that I'm right.

>>389152798

Imagine finally getting a good Sonic game after 23 long years and being the only Sonic fan in the world unable to enjoy it. That feeling must eat you up inside.

>>389159749
If you don't want to be the baby in the picture, you should stop yer crying. Because you certainly do sound like the baby in that picture.

>>389159749

You already got shut down, dumbass.

>>389159749
Do you have autism?
I don't mean the meme "I like something" kind, but the diagnosed one

>>389158984
I don't trust Sonic Retro alone to make a good 3D Sonic game.
You need Sonic Stadium to create good characters and a story.

>>389160117
>I don't trust Sonic Retro alone to make a good 3D Sonic game.

Sonic Mania?

>>389159779
There were good Sonic games released before Mania.
Pretty much all the portable titles were top tier.

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>>389159890
I'm not crying though, so far I've only seen Maniafags bitch and whine after being confronted with the truth about playing Generations 2.0. Like I said, in the future my opinion will become the norm, you just don't want buyer's remorse to settle in yet.

>>389159985
Point towards the post that "shut me down", dumbass.

>>389160110
No, I just have a lot of free time today. I'd genuinely like someone to prove to me that Mania is more than a shitty cashgrab, however no one has actually been able to do so.

>>389160191
Sonic Rush is the literal definition of 'hold right to win'. The others aren't much better. Boosty boost Sonic is shit game design.

>>389160186
That's a classic styled game in every facet.

>>389160316

You were shut down the moment we diverted you from your dumbass argument, dumbass.

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>>389160380
>talking shit about Sonic Rush

Step Down!

>>389160316
>I'd genuinely like someone to prove to me that Mania is more than a shitty cashgrab, however no one has actually been able to do so.
It's a fun game but good control and physics, catchy music and the rehashed parts, while being too many, are remade in a way that play like if they were originaly from this game.

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Will you fags stop biting such obvious bait

>>389160424
Sounds good. God knows Adventure failed and 3D Sonic should be reinvented from scratch.

>>389160316
#1 way you can tell an anon is crying is if he says "I'm not crying". The #2 way is if he posts using a smug dumbfrog image, showing how very much he wants you to know that he's not, in fact, crying.

>>389160380
I liked Rush for what it was, 2D boost.

>>389160580
Meh, I'd be happy with boost Sonic with no shit control in the 2D sections.

>>389158806
>keep my composure
Yet you are posting about it? Sounds like something got under your skin.

>>389160191
>advance 3
>top tier
If there's a 2d game with even more fucked up collision detections then mania it's advance 3.

>>389160380
Sonic Advance series is great you nimrod.

>>389158806
>wants people to engage him without ad hominems and non-arguments when his original post was nothing but that

>>389147993
Jokes aside I'm pretty sure Iizuka takes a lot of pride in the Mania project, he probably even feels responsible for it too.

>>389161030
How the fuck do you get the emeralds in those shitty stages with shit dept perception? I always get the true endings in my Sanics but I can't deal with those

>>389161030

No, it isn't. Terrible stage design, ugly graphics, and garbage special stages. Those games look and feel as cheap as their budget.

The first two are much better than Sonic Rush, I'll give you that much.

>>389161225
Sonic Mania is easy, just get used to more difficult stage design noob.

>>389160462
My argument still stands.No one has properly challenged it yet so I'm left with replying to dumbasses like you, dumbass.

>>389160618
Fair enough, I guess I'll just never understand why people put Mania above games like 2 and 3&K in their tierlists.

>>389160618
>anon claims you're butthurt
>tell him you're not butthurt
>haha ur butthurt a bloo bloo
Literal elementary kid logic, you need to be 18+ to post here.

>>389161316
>I guess I'll just never understand why people put Mania above games like 2 and 3&K in their tierlists.

Becuase it's a better designed game. In every single way imaginable.

>>389161316

You need to make an argument first to have it stand. So far you have yet to make one. So you're just a dumbass talking dumbass talk like always. Dumbass.

Why is this girl shilled in here, she's not even pretty, she looks like Sony's Kaz Hirai.

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>>389152798
I agree with you. Mania is a fun gaje, but I hate that it's getting dickriding hype. No one aoreciates it fir the gaje as is, it's just Le "90s kids" fapping to their fucking childhood memories rather than looking at it as a decent game on its own. They then use the fact that it fueled said memories to shit on other games other sonic fans may enjoy. I've seen a greasy /v/ anon rank mania better than even the clsssics. It's just hype fueled praise with even non sonic fans like Etika or my friends dickriding.
so let me ask are you playing and enjoying it because if your own merit like me, or are jumping on the hype train???ARE YOU???

tfw too enlightened to play jump and runs

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>Get the blue spheres
>Doesn't say don't get the red ones
This game fucking sucks

I hate that people are shafting the majority of Sonic's legacy up to putting the Mania team above the original creators of Sonic.

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How do I find a qt sonic autist gf?

I want to wet her panties with my obscure knowledge and rare Beta cartridges

>>389161803
The majority of Sonic's "legacy" is shit. There's a reason why Mania is getting so much press and praise. It's the first legitimately good Sonic game in 23 years. That means, no autism required. There is no sign at the entrance that says "you must be THIS AUTISTIC to ride".

>>389161981
But it isn't, Sonic Advance and Sonic Adventure 2 beat it in sales and metacritic score.

>>389161695
>it fueled said memories to shit on other games other sonic fans may enjoy.


Which games? The same ones that always deservedly get shit on like Sonic Adventure 2 or Sonic Heroes?

>>389162193
No, Sonic Advance

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>>389161803
>Original creators
Well Yuji and Oshima left a long time ago, so their influences from the games past the Adventure Era have been long gone. So this is the closest thing to their vision fans have had in a while. Even they seemingly love Mania too. Even though, admittedly, people are exaggerating how good it is. This is the first damn good Sonic game in a while, give it some time.

>>389162112
Sonic Mania handily trounces both of those games. So much so that it's laughable. Sonic Adventure 2 isn't even a good game. It's a 3 out of 10 at best.

>>389161981
>There is no sign at the entrance that says "you must be THIS AUTISTIC to ride".
>one of the bosses is a sudden throwback to a completely unrelated game that was only rebranded as Sonic in the west
I don't know, man.

>>389161417
It really isn't, it's at best better than Sonic 2, but nowhere near as good as 3&K. At least 3&K is an original product.

>>389162274
Yeah but shitting on the Adventure games means shitting on games they were passionate about.

>>389162307
Not according to Metacritic and Sales.

>>389162243

Sonic Advance was always a cute little diversion. Nothing special. It's only notable for the fact that it's the first Sonic game on a Nintendo console. And the fact that it was one of the first handful of decent games to play on the GBA in it's first year of release. Sonic 1 for the MS is superior to it.

>>389162392
>Yeah but shitting on the Adventure games means shitting on games they were passionate about.

Too bad they are unfun except for Sonic's levels.

>>389161981
Sonic Advance is just as good as the classic games.
I would argue the whole trilogy is.

>>389162392
Garbage games don't get a pass just because their staff was passionate.

>>389162368

Sonic Mania takes the best elements of Sonic 2 and 3 and makes them better. Sonic 3 has pretty crummy level design in many places. In fact, some full levels are pretty shitty overall. Mania has no bad stages.

>>389162392
>they were passionate about.
Not necessarily. You'd only be shitting on Yuji's vision. Oshima left after Sonic Adventure. Also, never said I was shilling the adventure games, anon.

>>389162575
>Mania has no bad stages.
All of the remixed stages are shit.

>>389161981
>Sonic Advance 1
>Sonic Advance 2
>Sonic Adventure
>Sonic Adventure 2
>Sonic Colors
>Sonic Generations.

>>389161947
Go to a gaming place near you and find a qt3.14 and call yourself Cybershell.

>>389162758
>>Sonic Adventure
>>Sonic Adventure 2
>>Sonic Colors
He said good.

>>389161981
>It's the first legitimately good Sonic game in 23 years
Sonic Advance Trilogy
Sonic Heroes
Sonic Rush Trilogy
Sonic Racing games
Sonic Unleashed
Sonic Colours
Sonic Generations

I absolutely love Mania, but you are seriously autistic.

>>389159227
Is "TOO FAR" something he said?

>>389162748
My god, someone didn't have a lot of fun then. If you didn't like what was the majority of the game, I'm guessing you didn't like much of Mania at all except for the few original levels it had.

speak for yourself, I loved stardust speedway

>>389162907
>Sonic Heroes
You don't get to call anyone autistic, buddy.

>>389162392
>Not according to Metacritic

You can't be this stupid

>and Sales

Pretty easy to sell a million units when you're a launch window children's game on a children's console in a series that, up until its release, has had a relatively spotless record on consoles. Also buoyed by the fact that it's the first console Sonic game available for a non-Sega system.

Also, show me the sales data for Mania.

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>>389162907
>Heroes
Lol I bought that crap when I was 16 and soon realized Sonic had gone down the shitter
>Unleashed
Kek
>Rush
The first one was good, the second one was MEH

>>389162907
>Heroes
>Colours
>Unleashed

Gameplay > Aesthetic, buddy.

>>389161787
It's not hard to figure out if you aren't a retard

>>389163110
What aesthetic? Heroes looks like ass.

>>389162758
>>389162907

He said "no autism required".

You have to be aggressively autistic to possibly enjoy any of that shovelware filth.

>>389162519
>Sonic Advance is just as good as the classic games.

Explain?

>>389162907
>sonic and the black knight
>sonic boom fire and Ice

>>389160380
I think Sonic Rush is better than Sonic CD. Fight me.

>>389163271
>in order to have fun with fun games you have to be autistic
Classic /v/.

>>389162907
>Sonic Unleashed
>Sonic Heroes

Nope. Sorry. Those are a part of HAC.*

*The Hexology of Autistic Crap

>>389163014
Heroes is a guilty pleasure for me, hence why I used the spoiler tag. It isn't even that bad. The rail grinding and the light speed dash are broken and having to beat the game 4 times sucks ass, but otherwise it's perfectly fine. The final boss sucks anyway, so I'd say that it's worth one playthrough with Team Sonic at least.
>>389163050
Unleashed day time stages (minus Empire City) are great. The Werehog is average, but it doesn't completely break the game. The medal hunting is the worst shit ever though.

>>389147678
the literal last good sonic game was sonic boom fire and ice before sonic mania came out
this meme needs to stop

>>389163390

No, but you do have to be autistic to enjoy cringey shovelware for children that has terrible gameplay and shit game design just because you happen to be a fan of the shitty characters.

>>389163231
Unlike the games to come, what Heroes had were bright colorful stages which is what a 3D sonic game should look like. There aren't a lot of good stages in heroes sadly, but Seaside Hill and Ocean Palace use this aesthetic the best. Unfortunately, it's the only good stage in the game. Heroes lacked a lot of balance in a lot of areas. But I wish a 3D sonic game looked something like Generations (Graphics wise and Aesthetic wise) and Heroes.

>>389163498
The werehog had shit controls and I don't want to struggle through half of the game just to enjoy the other half.

>>389163030
Sonic Mania didn't score higher than Sonic Advance on Metacritic or the Adventure titles on their original releases.

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>>389163618
Good thing none of the games you're bitching about fit into that criteria then.

>>389147678
Haven't played a sonic since mid 2000s, is it actually good?
and how is generations?

>>389163719
And that's perfectly fine, I understand. The Werehog has huge glaring issues and the combat is, like I said, average at best. But I think that it's worth to just grind through them to experience the later Daytime levels. (And Eggmanland. It's hard as fuck, but also fun to play through.)

>>389163498
>It isn't even that bad.
>rails everywhere
>enemy based gates
>damage sponges
>breakable obstacles
>level design, if you can even call it that
Yeah, it is that bad.

>>389163946
Generations is good, Mania is the best game in the series.

>>389163740
>Sega paid reviewers to hype up the first 3D Sonics and the first Sonic on a Nintendo system
woah

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>>389163867
Adventure kids, everybody

>>389163946
Itis really good. Generations was acceptable.

>>389163740

You can't be this stupid. Of course those games scored high on metacritic. They were Sonic games released at a time before everybody realized Sonic wasn't good anymore. People scored them high based on the pedigree of the past games. Ask any of the people who reviewed any of those games back in the day what they think of them now. I *guarantee* every single one of them will admit the games were not actually very good.

Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 in particular. Those games are fucking trash. I want to say they didn't age well, but honestly they were just not very good to begin with.

If you think Metacritic scores, especially old Metacritic scores, hold any weight in determining a value of a game, you're clueless. But somehow I think you know that already.

>>389148257
>$70
Isn't it like 20

>>389163946
Generations is a decent if flawed game. Definitely the best 3D Sonic has ever got.

>>389163867
Every single one of them does. Replace the Sonic characters in those games with Looney Tunes characters or Harlem Globetrotters or some other licensed shit. Your opinion of them would completely change. They're terrible games reeking with terrible game design.

>>389163946
>Generations
It's great. Classic Sonic doesn't control like in the old games AT ALL, but I got used to it quick. It probably has the best level design in any modern Sonic game (minus Mania), since it's full of branching paths (Yes, even in the 3D levels) and it's just fun. The only issues it has is the length and the terrible final boss. You can find it cheap nowadays, so go get quick.
>Sonic Mania.
Best Sonic game since 3&K. It's near perfection. The sondtrack is orgasmic, the physics are on point, it has lots of unlockables etc. Just buy it. Telling you anything would spoil you. Go into the game as blind as possible, trust me, you'll thank me later.

>>389164391
Nigger, fuck you, Transformed is one of the best kart games of all time. And I'd totally play Speedy Gonzales Generations.

>>389164187
If they were really terrible they would have been bashed back then.

>>389164187

I betcha Dave Halverson still likes Sonic Adventure. But then, Halverson also gave Sonic 06 a glowing review. He'll like anything as long as it's a mascot platformer.

>>389164008
>Rails everywhere
Wut? I don't remember many rails aside from Rail Canyon and Egg Fortress.
>Enemy based gates
Clearing the areas in these doesn't take that much time, though.
>damage sponges
Agreed.
>breakable obstacles
Explain, please.
>level design
What are you talking about? The first few areas are great. It does go downhill slowly, (mainly in Casino Palace and FUCKING RAIL CANYON), but I never thought that it was, you know, completely awful.

>>389164391
If I was into Looney Tunes characters then my opinion wouldn't change, why is it bad to like a game because you like the characters? A lot of people play Mario because of Mario, a lot of people play Halo because they like Spartans and Master Chief. Yet when someone likes a Sonic game because they like Sonic as a character then it all the shit hits the fan.

At this point we should just turn every video game character into amorphous blobs to fit your very autistic criteria.

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>>389152798
Yeah look how "recycled" the levels are.

Hopefully will have more examples as more maps get ripped.

>>389164583
No they would not have, and I already explained why. Look up the reviews for another garbage game, Mario Sunshine. You'll find that the reviews for it are amazingly high. Why? Because it's a fucking Mario game. Nothingmore.

>>389147678

>A fanbase so fucking stockholmed syndromed that they wait 2 decades on a good game

Sonic fans are truly pathetic creatures

>>389164790

Because most people like a game because it's a well designed game that's enjoyable to play based on it's gameplay and design. You don't enjoy a Spongebob game just because it happens to have Spongebob in it. That's stupid. You only like those awful Sonic games because you like Sonic characters.

>>389164008
Yeah your memory of the older sonics is poor.

>>389152798
I thought the stereotype of Sonic fans as whiny unpleasable bitches had faded but you're really bringing it back full stop

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>>389161803
>original creators
Yuji Naka (programmer), Hirokazu Yasuhara (game designer), and Naoto Ohshima (artist) are considered to the the creators of Sonic.

Ohshima and Yasuhara left during the 90's while Naka stuck around until 2006 when he decided to leave. The original creators are gone.

Yasuhara was quoted saying "I was opposed to the idea of SEGA using the brand name Sonic on titles it did not belong to just to make money."

The team that made Sonic great during the 90's is long gone, for the exception of Iizuka who stayed around since 3&K.
The Mania Team has come the closest to successfully recreating the original spirit and feel of the original games along with the gameplay, much more than modern Sonic Team.

>>389164787
>Explain, please.
Every now and then the game throws obstacles your way just so you have to switch to Nipples and lose momentum.

>What are you talking about?
The average Heroes level goes something like this: straight line with nothing > loop > straight line > square/rectangular room with either mandatory or skippable enemies > straight line > obstacle > rails > flight section > straight line. It's very light on platforming.

>>389165137

I think he might be the only one, though. And even then, it's obvious that he didn't actually dislike the game. He forced himself to dislike it because of some kind of strange, autistic grudge.

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>>389147678

>western devs save an eastern franchise

>>389165173
I am talking about people who despise the existence of Sonic Adventure and what it did to Sonic.

>>389165037
>You don't enjoy a Spongebob game just because it happens to have Spongebob in it.
It's part of the enjoyment, you'd have to be clinically retarded to argue otherwise. Likeable character designs are part of a game whether you like it or not.
>You only like those awful Sonic games because you like Sonic characters.
Those "awful" Sonic games aren't awful though, I'm not the same anon so I don't like all the games he listed, but trying to claim Sonic hasn't had a good release for 23 years is actually very dumb.

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>>389165173

I think the only input Iizuka had on the original Sonic games is that barrel trap in the Carnival Night Zone in Sonic 3. He's as much a member of Sonic Team as Gleek the monkey is a member of the Super Friends.

>>389165508

Then you've just made my point. Without Sonic, you would admit that those are otherwise terrible games. It's fine if that's why you like them like you say, but that is why you like them, whether you think it's a good reason or not.

>>389164824
The assets and visuals are still recycled. Haxman could've easily just spiced up the visuals and added in new backgrounds to call the bottom one a new zone, but he took the easy way out by appealing to nostalgia and reusing assets.

>>389165137
>you should shut the fuck up and accept every piece of doo doo that SEGA presents to you
Shut up, seriously. You're reason why Sonic can't have good games anymore.

>>389165786
>Haxman

I think the real reason you dislike this game is starting to become a little less murky now.

>>389165705
Would Sonic Mania do just as well if it was a MLP game?

>>389165173
What about Iizuka?

>>389165892

I don't know if it would DO just as well, but it would be just as good of a game, yes. Of course it would.

>>389165705
My point is that character designs are part of a game, you can't separate them from the whole project then claim that pure mechanical depth is what makes a game.

>>389165892
It probably would have done better.

>>389165786
>he is still here
Your posts make me smile, please, continue.

>>389165393
What did SA1 do wrong? I thought SA2, Heroes, Shadow and Sonic 06 were the downfall.

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>>389165892
Classic Sonic design has already worked as a Deviantart OC game, so I don't see why not.

>>389166023

SA1 is a bad game, but it's more forgivable due to the fact that it was the first real forray into 3D. Later entries don't have that same luxury. It's also not good that the games seemed to somehow get progressively WORSE as time went on.

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>>389166005
>he doesn't know that I never left
That's the wonders of anonymity, you might've even accidentally agreed with me on this thread, scary thought, no?

>>389166023
SA2 > SA1 In literally every way. Both are poop though, of course

>>389166005

He never left. Just find every idiot post in the thread. They're all his.

>>389163946
Generations is one of the better 3D Sonic games, though I wouldn't call it a great game. It's decent enough. As for Sonic Mania, it's really good. If you like the Genesis Sonic titles, you'll probably love Mania.

>>389166194
No, that was my first post in the thread. I just skimmed and laughed at how stupid the shit you were posting was. I assumed you wouldn't still be shitposting in the same thread after over 2 hours, but you're an autistic sonic fan I should have known better.

>>389166302
Are Sega only capable of making Anniversary games?

>>389165934
Iizuka was just another designer I believe, brought in for s3&k but his role had no significant impact of the game itself. From Adventure onward he ended up having more control and was responsible for the shooting and fishing sections of the game, among other things. As we know he eventually became the series producer, probably because of his long history with Sonic Team and senior status.

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>>389164824
>tfw now fastest route is straight underwater

>>389159175
I would like to know this too, but all the findoms I talk to charge for lessons, which I guess makes sense.

>>389166023
They hate that it had voice acting, a greater emphasis on story, and a new series of redesigns.

>>389166561
You aren't funny

>>389166561

It's as much a coincidence that we finally got another good Mega Man game the moment OBAMA got elected.

>>389166561
Trump got elected in 2016, a year with a lot of shitty video games.

>>389166561
We also got Sonic 3 and Knuckles the year CLINTON was elected.

>>389166738
He didn't become president until January 20th, and 2017 has been a very good year for gaming

>>389165521
Holy shit, that monkey even looks like Iizuka. Just look at the similarity in their faces!

>>389166806

Clinton was elected in 1992, though.

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>>389166561
>>389166732
>>389166806
>devs think the next president is going to destroy the world, so they make one last good game for the road

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>>389151048

This. I loved the game, but it felt a bit underwhelming. It felt incredibly short.

Probably because half of the game is old levels and the other half is actually new content.
I fucking love the new levels and the new gimmicks associated with them. If only there was more of it instead of replaying the same act 1 from Sonic 1, 2 and 3.

Also, still no ice cap.
It is true. Michael Jackson has rights over Sonic 3. The soundtrack at least. So much so that, probably due to copyright, Sega is forbidden to use Sonic 3 music.

Who would want to play Ice Cap without the emblematic theme?

>>389166874
The two yellow monkeys look nothing alike. You're just racist.

>>389165173

What are they doing now? Too lazy to check

>first the mania hating autist derails the thread
>then a /pol/tard derails it

Mania threads will never reach the same level of comfy ever since the PC version came out.

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>>389167048
>they play the collection theme instead

>>389164824
woa, are there no gay ass conveyor belt things in the new zone? that's awesome.

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>>389167418

HAY I MADE THE TRUMP JOKE

I'VE NEVER EVEN BEEN TO /pol/

I ACTUALLY LOVE MEXICANS...their food is quite exquisite as long as you avoid fast food.

>>389147678
The Dark Ages stopped between 2008-2010.

>>389167681
The Mania map doesn't have the level's objects shown.

Any nudes of him?

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How can Sky Chase be fixed?

>>389167418
I was hoping we were going to derail towards asian titties instead.

>>389168054
Taxman is pure.