Basara

>>389141516
>>10 times better than Warriors series

Uh no

3 got a western release and no one bought it.

Also I think that Sanada spin-off actually killed this series.

They screwed up with SB3. Spent tons of money making an amazing localization and then failed to advertise it or do anything to convince people it wasn't just a ripoff of Dynasty Warriors.

I wish we'd gotten Sumeragi instead of MH Generations.

>>389141516
Why the long face?

>>389141678

Th-they're just spending a few years making an amazing new engine for SB5. You'll see.

>>389141678
Not sure what they were thinking.

>Let's make a game entirely based on a character whose popularity has been dwindling down!

>>389141850
It was the something-th anniversary of the real Yukimura, so there were tons of documentaries and manga and so on being made of him. Dynasty Warriors got a similar game, I think.

>>389141850
Apparantly the game has virtually no content in it plus reinterprets the story in a way that's less interesting than before or some shit too. Or so I've heard anyway.

I should finish that game someday, the whole weapon upgrade is so boring I dropped it after a couple characters.

>>389141648
He's right though. SB is like DW only with more depth and fun factor

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>>389141982
Yeah, SW got a Sanada clan-centric spinoff and Nioh got a DLC chapter specifically based around him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-ln8ttlL5g

>>389142019
Sounds like a cheap cashin to shore up the budget of SB5 please

>>389142474
>>389142474
>more depth

No

>More fun

No

>>389143707
>No
>More depth
Moveset and combat? Hell no. Gameplay? Only on expansions that a year to come out. Character variety? I'll give you that.

>>389141516
>4th entry in a musou series that literally nobody fucking bought even when it was given two chances
gee, wonder >why no western release

>>389143912
>>389143707

It's apples to oranges. DW is about juggling responsibilities and rushing around to put out as many fires as you can over multiple fronts, Basara is much more linear with more focus on combat and combos, and plays similarly to DMC. They both have pros and cons and I enjoy both

>>389144103
I don't see how it's remotely close to DMC except enemy count

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>>389141516
>>10 times better than Warriors series
Gameplay wise, sure, still bland musoushit though.
For everything else, hell no, SB is a fujofest with atrocious characters and music, I'm still mad they turned Ieyasu into a bishie for fujopandering and genderswapped certain people for the hell of it.

SB5 when

>>389141516
>that thing on the left

Ayyylmao

>>389141516
>warriors garbage is universally hated and ridiculed for being so objectively shitty
>capcom literally decide to show them how its done because they were bored and felt like being cheeky
>ends up being 100x the game any warriors shit is
Literally the funniest shit Capcom could've done. Even funnier when those warrior shitters tried to do the same to MH with a MH ripoff that was a total steaming turd flop.

>>389144516
SB1 was shit, to be fair.

>>389144516
>Even funnier when those warrior shitters tried to do the same to MH with a MH ripoff that was a total steaming turd flop.
Toukiden wasn't a flop though, in fact it's one of the more popular KoeiTecmo IPs now, Toukiden 2 is also a really solid and fun action game.

>>389144879
>warriors fags
Not even once.

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>tfw too inteligent for musou games

>>389144319
Generally the reason for the DMC comparison is,
>advanced inputs and combo chaining
>same tone of craziness
>references including moves and a Geryon boss
>created by the director of DMC4
>Devil Kings
Of course it won't hold up to DMC when you compare the two. It's more of a lite version. If Musou is 1 and DMC is 10, Basara is probably about 4 on the scale.

>>389146793
So it's nothing like DMC except being crazy.
Next thing you're going to tell me Tales of or Naruto games are like DMC

>Haven't played SB since ps2
>Decide to finally buy an overpriced, imported SB:Yukimura cause he is my favourite character and I haven't played in a long while.

Main story was shit, challenges were pretty shit too, even the new movesets are so bad compared to old, only thing I'm happy about is they added old Yukimura+Date
Was a huge disappointment for sure.

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>>389146974
It wouldn't be entirely wrong.

>>389147340
It wouldn't be true at all, DMC plays way better than any of those games
It's like saying every single shooters are doom clones, it's dumb and just mislead people into thinking games are different than what they are.

>>389147556
I'm not even disagreeing with you. Do you understand what -lite means? It has similarities and takes influence from DMC, but it's still a watered down version of it. Nowhere did I imply DMC gameplay isn't vastly superior.

1 was released but was "americanized" to hell
3 got released
On the fucking Wii...


Who cares about the games, this series is just fujo bait at this point

>>389147902
It's still misleading as fuck. Just say it's a decent beat em up, no need to bring up DMC.
It's like saying Need for speed is a burnout-lite because it has card and you go fast, if you expect anything like burnout it's going to be a huge disappointment.

The one I played that was translated in english years ago was terrible. Everyone had the exact same linear levels, it was so boring. The combat is much deeper than Musou games, but what's the point if there's no fucking levels.

>>389148329
If you mean SB3, it has over 40 levels. Some of them have pretty obtuse unlock requirements, like Osaka Castle Reclamation and Setsugigawa Three Heroes.

>>389149829
Is there anything like that in SB Sumeragi?

>>389148268

This game has the same director as DMC and a ton of the same development staff

Stop being autistic.
This game has taken HEAVILY by DMC.

>>389150442
So Resident Evil is DMC-lite?

>>389150442
The new NFS games are made by Criterion, the same guys behind Burnout.
They're still nowhere near as good as burnout

>>389150403
Not really. Some of the levels are only used a few times in the story routes, so you might have to look up who you need to play as to unlock them. But none are locked behind conditions you would never figure out without looking it up.

>>389142702
I'd argue that Nioh's DLC had less to do with Yukimura and more to do with the actual end of the sengoku era.

>>389151983
That's great, so as long as I play with everyone I'm fine.

Basara as a game is dead.

They just release games for the sake of releasing a game to introduce more characters to pimp out with merchandise and musicals


Im mad cause most of this shit is mostly japan exclusive

>>389146793
Let me give you a better comparison: SB's combo system is entirely around having special moves with unique effects, versus DW's normal attack into charge attack gameplay. In SB, you have a character's entire moveset available to you at any moment. In DW, you can only use a move you want after reaching a certain part of your normal attack chain. As a result, in SB you will end up improvising more and be able to be more creative with combos and how you fight in general, whereas in DW, everything you do starts the same way.

I really wish Koei stepped their shit up. But I assume they keep their combat system shallow and repetitive on purpose so that casuals in Japan can play them.

>we'll probably never have Sengoku Warriors or Capcom vs Koei
>Never be able to go Double Masamune with quadrillion guns out

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>>389144401
The music in the game is great though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-VvJXbqV-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0xId_3wIIQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qwqV_5p9_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNFN7eZCeX0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIiMNzrMzA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jiJaLB4er0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CrQYsogmdQ

>>389141678
3 sold around 60,000 copies, which was pretty good for a game with no marketing and its series release history. Capcom wanted it to sell 2 million.

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>>389144879
>Toukiden 2 is also a really solid and fun action game.

>>389146974
It's nothing like DMC except for having similar combat mechanics, story presentation, and style. Can you not read?

>>389141982
What's with Jap and their boner for Sanada clan anyway?

>>389154286
Sanada was the last great rival for Ieyasu.

I mean, Hideyori was, but Yukimura was the main general

>>389152814
The real difference is that in DW every character plays exactly the same, while in SB every character feels unique.

>>389154286
Modern day Japs have lost their hot bloodedness so they wank and live vicariously through his achievements.

>>389154286
Sanada Yukimura is the "every-guy" of the Sengoku Era

>>389154286

Because when every clan was betraying each other or just crumbled into nothingness after the battle of sekigahara, the Sanada clan perservered and uphold to what is generally perceived today as true Samurai honor.

When Yukimura was even spotted by Tokugawa samurai during the siege of Osaka, he embraced his death with dignity.

>>389154286
Cause he embodied the Samurai values the most, he lived,fought and died with honor.

Everyone else was a scheming worm, thug, cowardly bandit or a tyrant.

>>389141678
>>389141850
Nah merch still sells like hotcakes SB and SW both did Yukimura games because muh year of Sanada Yukimura

Both the anime and game had really kickass music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXWinPXEF0M

Shame Capcom had to kill the series.

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When's the year of my boy Motochika?

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>nobody mentions that god tier english dub
Shame on you shame on all of you I can't believe how such a weeb game managed to pull such a good dub

>>389154587

You'd think they'd prefer the rags-to-riches story of Hideyoshi.

>Born the son of a peasant, became the unifier of Japan

>>389155429
kenshin

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>its the year of the tiger mom and we're getting nothing

Boooo

>>389155492
What's wrong anon don't you like Frieza or what?

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>>389155524
We never get anything for SB women.

>>389155172
It's ded as fuck in the west in moonland is still alive and well thanks to fujobucks.

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Never forget.

>>389155459

Well maybe because Hideyoshi did a lot of supid shit in his later years like invading Korea. Besides, every unifier was born from rags to riches, from Nobunaga to Tokugawa.

Heck, that's the prevailing theme during the Warring States period. The weak and low will eventually usurp the strong.

>>389155627

Well blame fujoshi

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH1wm4rt5yo

IEYAAAASUUUU

>>389155660
It's not from the same guys

>>389155459

Hideyoshi and his son Hideyori ultimately lost to Ieyasu and did stupid shit that led up to it, so you can't quite say he was the ultimate unifier of Japan. Hattori Hanzo's the other big honorable figure of the era even though he died before Hideyoshi.

>>389155627
Doesn't the game director have a huge boner for Oichi?

>>389155459
No Because Hideyoshi was more like a starscream ready to feast on Nobunaga's corpse.

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>>389155627
Yeah but thats the perfect opportunity to introduce boytoy trap Naomasa Ii

>>389155910

Oichi's been a fan favorite since SBH2, but dont know about the director.

>>389142702
Nioh ost was decent but from the guys who did Kessen 1 and Kessen 3 I expected MUCH better.
Why couldn't they get the same composers?

>>389155660
Different studio they went back to IG for 4 and Sumeragi

Is SB3 good? I played the original Sengoku Basara and that was probably the most fun I've had with a musou. At least I think it was the original. Maybe not.

>>389155459
>peasant becomes ruler of japan
>bans anyone else from becoming nobility through the same methods he used

sasuga japan

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>>389155910
Does anyone not have a huge boner for Oichi?

>>389155429
Speaking of, SB3's dub is the only time I've heard a character like Oichi voiced well in English.

>>389155890
>Hattori Hanzo

You mean Ieyasu's ninja?

>>389156018
>>389155815
I'm not sure why you think anyone wouldn't know that, or that it changes how shit S3 looked.

>>389156079

Just get SB4 Sumeragi.

The thing about musou games, especially Basara, is that the latest iteration is always the best since it incoporates all the improvements with each game and has more characters.

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>When Ieyasu grew up from being a Midget

>>389156079
SB3 is as good as musou gets in English.

>>389156123

Yeah, the original Hanzo rather than his ineffectual successors.

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>>389150504
DMC1 is RE-lite.

>>389155890
>>389156123
>>389156253
Speaking of Hattori Hanzo, why he doesn't appear in SB even though his rival Fuuma Kotaro is there?

>>389156150
At least the fight scenes were neato but yeah it had a big drop on quality and also no Sawano before his talent got sucked away by Aniplex

>Oichi

This will always be the best story in any Musou game for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6R6FMlvEv8

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http://www.raindropsanddaydreams.co.uk/2017/05/event-report-basara-club-fan-meeting.html

Since real life didn't allow me to attend the previous Basara Matsuri and stage play events, I leapt at the opportunity to apply for tickets to this weekend's Basara Club Fan Meeting 2017 Spring events when the timing ended up coinciding with some travel I'd already arranged. The Sengoku Basara fandom is in a huge lull right now in Japan - even more so than it was prior to the announcement of Sengoku Basara 4 - and it's been a little sad seeing how few signs there are of the series' influence while travelling around the country over the past two weeks. Sengoku Basara merchandise has vanished from most stores, the anime discs are in bargain bins and we just had the news that Sengoku Basara Dokugan, the only serialised manga currently running (not counting the Retsuden one-shots in Dengeki Maoh) is to end in a couple of weeks. If not for this summer's Zangeki Sengoku Basara: Odawara Seibatsu ('Odawara Subjugation') stage play which has just started its major advertising push, I'd be ready to declare the series officially dead.
>I'd be ready to declare the series officially dead.

>>389156150
It's not a third season for once.

>>389156253
The Hattori served Tokugawa for generations. OG's Hanzo son had some problems with his followers but its hardly to call them innefectual.

>>389156358
The Joke is that for all the talk about Bonds, the only named friend from Ieyasu in his own clan is a muteless robot

>>389156112
Of course. All the Sengoku girls are pretty damn hot. Capcom is at least pretty good at making top tier girl characters.

>>389156373
Sawano had already become a one trick pony by the time of The Last Party.

>>389141516
>all these deluded weebs
There is no appeal for 99.9% of westerners.

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>>389156521
Shhhh anon no tears they're just taking a break a pulling their shit together for SB5

>>389156358

I think Capcom just doesn't want money like usual.

>>389156528

I dunno, problems with his followers is putting that Hanzo's problems lightly considering he fucked up enough to get fired. He kind of redeemed himself in the Sieges of Osaka, but it was a way worse legacy than his father.

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For interested PCfags, reminder you can play SB3Utage using wii emulator

>>389141516
That Sanada game was so bad that it actually made Spirit of Sanada look much better in comparison.

>>389157489
Really?

>>389156596
The early OVAs of Unicorn were his last good work and also the best ones

>>389157454
Or you can play the PS3 version which doesn't have gimped enemy numbers.

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>>389141678
I bought it.

Basara is so much better than Samurai Warriors, god the game fucking bores me. Even the characters are miles better in Basara especially Nobunaga.

>>389157621

Is the PS3 emulator working stable now?

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>>389156521
>I'd be ready to declare the series officially dead.
This girl doesn't understand how marketing or a franchise works on Nipland

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>>389156528

>Swears fealty to Nobunaga, abandons him in his hour of need
>Swears loyalty to Hideyoshi, before murdering him in a treasonous coup, also betraying his best friend Mitsunari in the process
>Waits until Shingen falls deathly ill to attack; Yukimura BSOD's and his army routs due to lack of leadership, Ieyasu proclaims himself the clear victor and superier strategist
>Waits until Masamune is critically wounded and at death's door before beginning his attack to wipe out the Date clan; after being BTFO by Kojiro and repelled, decides to force Masamune into serviture instead
>Orders Tadakatsu to fire on Hideaki to force him to turn traitor, the latest in a series of broken bonds (it's alright as long as they're not his though)

>Okay guys we're gonna unify Japan through BONDS make sure you guys stop the evil Dark King Mitsunari because he can't be trusted to be friends with anyone :^)))))

Can Capcom please delete Ieyasu from the franchise? I'll never stop hating him.

>>389157621

I thought the two versions were identical outside of resolution. Which is why the Western PS3 release didn't have the original Japanese audio, since they couldn't fit it on the Wii disc. It's anecdotal, but I've played on both platforms and I don't remember noticing a difference.

>>389157768
Get out Mitsunari

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>>389157728
>Every time you beat characters in 3 their voice line indicates them either being knocked out or running away
>Play as Nobunaga
>Everyone has new voice lines where they're dying

>>389157507
Made Yukimura and Date's new forms just mash to win, shit main mode, most of the cast is just usable in side modes like the arena.
Embarassing entry.

>>389157935
>Which is why the Western PS3 release didn't have the original Japanese audio, since they couldn't fit it on the Wii disc.
Capcom have rarely ever provided Japanese audio.

>>389157761

You mean how every people there are even worse than foreigners when it comes to throwing away considered "old news" because that's what's happening with Basara now. 7 years ago, Date Masamune was appearing in brothel banners and fucking building ads. He was that popular, but now you barely even see anything Basara related because of how much Capcom neglected the series.

>>389157972
Fuck. Was kinda looking forward to playing it.

>>389157768
Stay mad Mitsunari lmao.

>>389157941
>Kill absolutely everyone with Nobunaga
>"This is boring i'm going back to hell now"

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>>389157768
>delete Nobunagas successor and the one that united Japan from the franchise

>>389157768

Never mind that he somehow heals Oichi out of misery for just being such a good boy.

Good thing that in her own scenario, Oichi just fucking smacks him to death. Oichi is only for nii-sama and Nagamasa

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>>389157941

>The only character who has a unique cutscene with him (outside of Oichi when you unlock him) is Magoichi for some reason

>>389157768
But the game constantly calls him a hypocrite and some characters actually think Ieyasu is kinda fucked up in the head because of his "If you don't want to Kizuna then I'll just punch you very hard until you're okay with it or just die" mentality.

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>>389158230

>Matsunaga's story mode
>They chat like old buddies
>"Okay this is fun and all Devil King, but I'm gonna make a sake cup out of your skull now"

>>389158239
Oichi is for Katsuie's fat dong.

>>389158028
The worst is that people actually want a new game since or new merch since the stage was a pretty good success but Capcom is run by a bunch of monkeys.

>>389158571
Katsuie is for Sakon!

Basara as a game series is dead.
most of the audience are fujoshis and they don't buy games. only the merchandise, event tickets and faggortry doujinshis. the audience (mostly males) who actually bought the games stopped doing so. Tales is going the same route
>b-but those franchise always had fujoshit over them"
no. they started catering to young boys and teenagers. As the time passed most of sales of the merchandise were by women the games started getting gayer as the time passed.

>>389158890
Berseria was more straight than a stripper poll and sold like fucking shit m8

>>389141516
I see a copy of this on my Gamestop, the cover looks weird, but is it really as good as you say it is? I'm never tried Musoushit but I'm down if it's a bit more complex than Warriors.

>>389159054

Maybe because the previous one already scared away all potential customers. No amount of word of mouth is gonna bring more sales.

>>389159160
Go for it senpai

>>389159258
Aight. If it's still there I'll pick it up.

>>389159160
>>389159332
Play Mitsunari first

>>389159054
still used the xilliua games engine. and had one of the most boring battle system in the series since team destiny started with the bullshit to not let the player combo. awful level design, awful back tracking. and came out after zestiria. it was an okay game. but nothing to rush and buy it on launch window and at full price.
The battle system was also originality going to work like DMC3/4 with the directional inputs during the combos. but they bailed out on that.
Also even though Zestiria ruined the game franchise and was total shit. guess which characters got first and second place on popularity pools and were the center of the tales festival this years?
the two fags from Zestiria

>>389159597
ruined the game franchise's image*
Eizen and laphicet were also the only ones who actually maketo a high position on the pools. google that shit to get the result. i'm playing X3 right now

>>389158278
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15179624

I wish someone did the sequel for "Only My Lord Hideyoshi" with the english dialogue

>>389159431
By the way, I think the copy I saw was SB: Samurai Heroes. Is that good?

>>389160584
It's the third one, yeah it's really good.

>>389160032
This bitch and her command input gave me PTSD

>>389160584

How much is it? Vanilla SB3 (Samurai Heroes is the localized version) is nice but a lot of modes and options are missing from the Utage expansion, not to mention half the cast isnt playable yet.

But if its cheap enough and only want to play it in english, then go for it.

That said, it's the only localized modern Basara game because it didnt sell millions for Capcom, and as usual, they stopped making an effort to bring it to the west.

>katsuie is a brooding edgy emo bitch


Basara should stop being ~dark~, basara's main appeal was that its a goofy shounen depiction of the sengoku era

>>389160937

That's what the anime is for. That said, yeah I miss the silliness of SB2 where you had samurai sentai heroes suddenly barging into fights and Tadakatsu actually looked kinda funny.

Not to mention all the whacky stuff associated with Nagamasa.

Yeah basara is finished in japan
Touken ranbu stole its entire fanbase


Sad, i miss discovering nicovideo in 2007 and the first MADS were sengoku basara

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>>389160736
I used to have it down perfectly. Now I've gotten so bad I can't do it at all. Thankfully you can just slap her PI on in Sumeragi and not give a shit.

>>389161296

Fujoshi are a fickle bunch. They will always go to where prettier boys are at.

No different from otaku

>>389141516
>also infinitely better than any shit that Platinum Games made
Why the fuck you forgot about that?

>>389160937
Theres always goofy characters in it.
Katsuie is pretty emo, but Sakon is pretty goofy.

>>389160817
Only about 14 bucks. I'll buy it.
If this series is as good as you guys say it is, then fuck Capcom.

>>389161480

Speaking of which, you can actually do more combos in Basara 3 alone compared most Platinum games.

Fuuma Kotaro's air combos are fucking nuts and so are Mitsunari's iai-jutsu moveset. It's no surprise why some people compare the combat variety to be DMC-lite.

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>>389161296
They're still working to make the Sengoku guys popular with fujos with mobile otome games

>>389161780
It's the fate of any good series like Darkstalkers or DMC

The solution for Basara is to go away for the Sengoku period.
Go for the Genji or even the Bakumatsu period.

The sengoku period is too crowded

I still want my Onin War game

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>>389161416
My gripe about touken ranbu is its 99% twinks

Where is the testosterone?

>>389161296
I fucking hate phone shit.

>>389162063
I like to think that fujoshis are lesbians in the closet

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>>389162063
There's this guy. Who had to suicide to kill a single ogre. Only for the next episode to reveal the ogres are mobs and the twinks slaughtered a horde of them no sweat.

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>>389163635
Mmmm bara tits

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>>389164002
Delete this.