Should I get quake champions or overwatch?

>>389136165
quake champions is free

They're not very similar other than being FPS with "heroes".

QC is fucking merciless and demanding

>>389136165
Quake Champions, but be prepared to spend time to git gud. You will get your shit pushed in for a while

>>389137079
Don't you know that Overwatch invented the concept of characters not just being skins?

>>389137201
Team Fortress did that in the 90s

>>389137241
And Super Mario Bros. 2 did it in the 80s. I was just joking

>>389137276
I thought you meant for MP shooters. Hexen did it yet before, and had MP

>>389136235
Only if you played the beta. If you didn't, you have to wait until next year. Or pay $30.

>>389136165
I bought QC yesterday and I've been having fun. Haven't played Overwatch, so I wouldn't know about that.

Doom feels so good to play in this game with the classic skin it's not funny.

>>389136165
QC is the better game
OW has more players

>>389136165
neither

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>>389137079
>QC is fucking merciless and demanding

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>>389137241
Quake also did that in the infamous PS2 port of Quake 3

It just failed because it had no online multiplayer and no m+kb support

Buy qc and it'll be dead within a year. Atleast with ow you can fap to the characters

>>389138454
At least you can't blame team for sucking ass while you do

>>389138603
Maybe it won't - it carries some legacy from series and Beth will pump shitload of money both in id Software and maketing to make it happen.

>>389138603
I know you're memeing because you
A. Haven't played it
or
B. Have played it and you got your ass handed to you
but the game is solid and the devs are truly trying to make it great. It won't ever be huge, but it certainly won't be "dead"

>>389138454
bitch you cant argue with that, heroes with different stats and abilities are shit and were imposed by current trends but other than that its same old quake

Will Quake Champions have a purist mode that disables the DOTA skills? If not, it's shit.

>>389138875
Yes, they announced a "ranger only" mode

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>>389138875
Probably, but as >>389138840 said, it's still 90% quake

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>>389138761
>>389138840
quakebabbys

>>389138959
You know, that pic is quite accurate.

i feel like Quake Champions is better and faster, but OW has more people since it's easier. Watch some gameplay and decide, man

>>389139039
/arena/ is the best

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>>389138990
>>389138454
Go back to your anime and stop contaminating this board.

>>389139101
Have they already got memes pumping out about this game?

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Quake Champions, obviously.

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>>389139189
Yes

>>389139317
Well, keep it up man.

>>389139189
Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKJmlrhSr5U

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>>389139347

>similar ideas

>>389139652
>Shit, I didn't know Visor is real, but for me he also resembles some other guy... I can't remember his name...

>>389136165
If you haven't played QUake competitively in the past, don't bother with QC. You'll get destroyed all the time and there's no way to catch up skill wise with people who having playing QUake for 20 years.

>>389139253
>Muh bad hit registration

>>389141094
but the guy who won duels in the quakecon tournament is an up and coming guy.

>>389141094
>who having playing
*who have been playing

Overwatch is about pressing Q, Champions is about having good aim and map knowledge.

PUBG already used the "youre just not good" shilling tactic but this is just laughable at this point.

>>389136165
Not the same type of game. Quake if you want to git gud in fast paced game and OW if you want a moba fps hero shooter

>>389136165
They're both pretty shit. I'd recommend Overwatch, it won't be dead in a month, and they've got so much money coming in odds are at one point they might actually have a good idea.

>>389138959
I had the worst game ever the other day with something like 2-14. My spawns just kept getting predicted or I would go for power weapon or boosts but they were always taken or I was constantly running into 1v2 situations.

>>389141168
>>389141301
Truth, quake is a video game and overwatch is a digital time consumer.
>>389141342
>I'd rather play garbage for a year than a video game for a month
It'll last way longer than that, but even if you weren't a massive faggot you'd be wrong

>>389136165
Get Quake Champions if you want a first person shooter
Get Overwatch if you want a first person moba

The REAL patrician's choice though, is Quake 2 or 3

>>389138959
>Clutch
>slow

The fastest tank if you know what you're doing. Dash boosts you to 650ups on top of respectable strafejumping and the cooldown on it pretty much nonexistant

It comes down to taste.

I just fucking hate capture the point stuff so I never bothered with Overwatch because from the outside looking in that's all their is. The Sacrifice game type in QC is interesting and I play that sometimes but I like good old DM/TDM/Duel the most.

>>>389137079
>merciless and demanding

Come on now. Its an age old rooty tooty point and shooty now with a magic button.

>>389141149
claws had 5 years of QL experience prior to that, and was world-class at it. He's Cypher's "pupil"

>>389141342
Do you really think Beth will leave it just like that after release? It has "Quake" in the name and both id and Beth knows it so id will try capture the Quake feeling for all cost (imo it might cost them some staff reduction after failure) and Beth will try to market it hard after release. And it will be promoted more than LawBreakers and way harder than Battleborn. Atm soft marketing is happening right now (contract with AMD, $1M tournament) but nothing intensive.

>>389141628
that doesnt means its still possible. one of the hardest to get into but its still possible. people like a challenge.

>>389141094
What a horrible, pathetic attitude. You don't have to be pro level to have fun and you can still get plenty good enough to beat quakedads and pubstars

>>389141094
You are the textbook definition of a scrub.

>>389141692
I hope you quoted the wrong post because that makes no fucking sense as a reply

I feel like Doomguy and BJ are lacking, but especially Doomguy.

>>389141817
>If you haven't played QUake competitively in the past, don't bother with QC. You'll get destroyed all the time and there's no way to catch up skill wise with people who having playing QUake for 20 years.

>claws had 5 years of QL experience prior to that

>people who having playing QUake for 20 years.

>claws had 5 years

>20 years =/= 5

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>mfw enemy doesn't pick Nyx - Visor - Anarki

>>389138603
I'll be fapping to Nyx's HIPS for a long time famalam

Would QC even have half of its current audience if there was no Sorlag for furries to attach themselves to?

>>389136165
Overwatch is shit, you may consider buying it if they happen to unfuck the game.

Do not recommend buying quake champions since it's a game involving bethesda + in early access, issues are probably not going to be addressed for months and even years.

If you want to play or try "fps with heroes", you should first try paladins, it's better than overwatch, even though it blatantly stole some of the ideas from it.

If you want to play quake, it's better to try quake live.

>>389141430
>>389141674
It's quake. Either you've been playing it for a decade and enjoy it, or you rarely if ever play it.
Particularly with destiny 2 coming out, it really doesn't have much of a future. It's always going to be nothing but high level play.

>>389138801
it will most assuredly be dead. I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I have played it, and it has drastically inferior gameplay to older Quake games (and pretty much every arena FPS that exists). It is a downgrade in every respect (except for graphics, lul) and plays like clunky dogshit. Bethesda might have money, but that doesn't mean they're not woefully clueless. Overwatch will still be popular in a year, QC will not

>>389142026
What if I pick Nyx, Sorlag, Anarki?

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>>389142060
They need to get the footfags to play this game. I hope id makes open footwear cosmetics, pedicure customization options, and the ability to play barefoot for female human champions.

>>389142384
Sorlag's feet are already good enough

>>389138506
But they didn't though?

>>389142523
Scalies and furfags need not apply.

>>389142009
Cool so I only have to play for 5 years with a pro mentor to get to the competitive level necessary to even start enjoying the game.

Cool

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>>389142678

I'm afraid they're gonna nerf Sorlag due to shitter complaints.

Her stack needs to stay as it is. It's the same as Clutch's and nobody calls him broken, and he even has better mobility. Sorlag's main problem is that the spit is incredibly annoying on all gamemodes and it's only a 30 sec cooldown

I can't stand any other character's gross post-Q2 movement, Sorlag is the only character that feels like Quakeworld and I love it. Make the acid spit 45 seconds and she's perfect

>>389136165
Quake Champions looks like the better game, but I'm not sure if you should get any of them.

>>389141168
the funny thing is that OW is much harder to play well than QC. The skill ceiling on Pharah (a Quake-inspired hero) alone is higher than anything QC has to offer. It is a dumbed-down version of Quake for babbies and that's why washed up veterans like rapha, cooller, and dahang are abandoning a game they failed to find any success in (despite being on pro teams) to play this comfort zone garbage game. They know they'll never catch up to the Koreans or even the Europeans in OW, but they might be able to frag some noobs in QC for awhile that haven't played q3dm6 a hundred thousand times like they have.

>>389142193

its a blizzard game anon, they will never UNFUCK what it is fucked since day 1

>>389142384
White people are so embarrassing

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>>389142873
>the funny thing is that OW is much harder to play well than QC.

>tfw didn't like Quake
>think I'll get rekt
>tfw already knew how to bunny hop, trick jump, and aim thanks to Jedi Outcast and Enemy Territory

ET is different to Quake on how you gain speed, but it gave me the fundamentals of being a massive faggot who abuses terrain.

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>>389142193
>you should first try paladins, even though it blatantly stole some of the ideas from Overwatch.
Stop right there.

Paladins is good, because it's less retarded version of OW and also for free. Quake Champions on the other hand is very hard but way more rewarding than both when you get good. I recommend to bring some friends into it.

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>>389142957
>White people
>Tyrone

>>389142986

the ETQW hero will be a strogg technician

>>389142873
>the funny thing is that OW is much harder to play well than QC
This is wrong

>The skill ceiling on Pharah (a Quake-inspired hero) alone is higher than anything QC has to offer
This is laughable. Quake's movement alone trumps anything Pharah or any character has.

>>389142205
If you don't like quake you don't like video games, period

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>>389142957
>Tyrone
>white

>>389142793

I wish they made it so hourglasses were replaced with +5 Health AND Armour pickups, cooldowns are cooldowns for a reason and only Galena needs the reduction as part of her abilities (which even then can be unaffected through picking up healing to recover cooldown).

>>389143034
>>389143129
>Implying you autistic fucks don't pretend to be black all the time

>>389142978
the sweat on your reaction picture is appropriate

I would be panicking too if my dead babbygame was getting BTFO

>>389142205
>Destiny 2 coming out, it really doesn't have much of a future.
Everybody already aknowledged it's just Destiny 1 expansion pack and if people want some fast pve MMO shooting they would just pick Warframe.

>>389143105
qc isn't quake though. it's dumbed-down clunky Bethesda fanfiction

>>389143378
it's 90% id game (and maybe some bits of saber tech), bethesda is just a publisher.

>>389143313
Except it's on PC.
>Warframe
No.
>>389143105
QC is poorly done reskinned quake. You're either already playing Q3 in which case it's a superior game, or you're gonna be playing one of the fifty other FPS more suitable to a casual audience.

>>389136165
If you plan to invest lots of time QC
If you plan to invest little time OW

>>389142678
>I have to be pro to enjoy a game
You're going to be very disappointed in life

>Slash's slide
>Nyx's walljump
UrT remake on QC engine when?
https://youtu.be/NfncP_FkFe8
https://youtu.be/MoGij5eFdx8

>>389142581
What they didn't what did TF?

>>389143490
> it's 90% id software
> no John Carmack

try harder next time pls

>>389143313
waframe fag here, i dont mind destiny on pc, we always take a brake from game because of burnouts, so its nice to have some backup when time comes. Tried during beta and from pve standpoint destiny looked decent to me.

>>389136165
Quake Champions is gonna be free once it leaves Early Access, so take that into consideration. Chances are it will also be quite dead, which is a shame.
Overwatch is good casual fun, and they added DM and TDM too. It'll be quite healthy for some time i'd bet and say what you will about blizzard, but they tend to support their games for a very long time.

>>389143709
>no John Carmack
Like he gave a shit for game instead just for tech...

There is still Tim Willits in id who was responsible for every Quake in the franchise (minus Quake 4 and ETQW which was made by another company) and is responsible for QC.

>>389143627
YES, please!

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>>389143841
>DM mode, in class based shooter, with rock\paper\scissors theme
why it feels so fuckin retarded? Are they serious? How its even going to work?

>>389143969
>There is still Tim Willits in id who was responsible for every Quake in the franchise

He was a mere mapper in Q1, responsible for few maps and they mostly were weak. Only The Underearth is on par with Romero's levels

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>>389137079
>QC is fucking merciless and demanding

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>>389139253
>xp
>damage numbers

The absolute state of things

>>389144235
It works because it's around softcounters - nobody can win solely because of pick (and because of 3 champion pick duel).

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Oldfag here, I played the fuck out of original Q3 and rocket arena (think Warsow). Will I enjoy the new Quake or will it feel worse than those? I missed all the beta periods so I haven't had a chance to try it.

Tempted to pay for it blind, give me your thoughts.

>>389144335
QL had damage numbers and it's the best competitive Quake game to date, but it's not like you played it and aren't just shitposting

>>389144262
He was but you can't deny that Q3 is his work. He was there and now it's fucking cult classic.

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Y'all a bunch of niggers

>>389144440
It's free if you want to suffer through the Bethesda launcher, otherwise cough up $30 on steam or wait for the free version on steam later this year

>>389144235
Because that whole concept only works when working as a team towards a specific objective. It's not like people are gonna pick support heroes or most tanks to play DM, it's just gonna be DPS focused heroes and it actually works.

>>389144637
Don't you also get all current champions and future champions if you pay? It's worth paying for it, and it's not expensive at all.

>>389144542
Actually, no. Q3's direction was a push by Carmack, they didn't want to make a MP-only game

The company had heavily bled talent by then as well, it was a practical decision

Why are you trying to shill Tim Willits, he's a fucking loser, Romero and Carmack called him out on trying to claim he invented the idea of MP-only levels in FPS. Romero even cited games that came before Q1 that had it, like ROTT, instantly winning the argument

>>389144612
Stillborn game 2bh

>>389144440
if you've played Warsow and rocket arena, qc is going to feel ESPECIALLY gimped. I'm convinced the only people capable of not being disgusted by qc are those that have never played a proper arena fps with good movement mechanics

>>389144542
>>389144734
For reference on Tim Willits being caught lying

http://www.pcgamer.com/id-software-veterans-are-arguing-over-the-origins-of-multiplayer-only-quake-maps/

>>389144637
>>389144803
Thanks for the advice I'll hold off on buying. If it's free on Bethesda's launcher I'll try that first.

>>389144542
>>389144262
>Only The Underearth is on par with Romero's levels

>The Underearth
>fall off starting ledge with items onto water
>can't ever return
>on par with Romero's levels

Garbage map, garbage mapper

>>389144712
Yeah you do, and it's at a slight discount since the game will be $40 on release.

>>389136165
Quake Champions is destined to be a C-list game for all eternity due to it being F2P. It will become a home to BRs and Ruskies.

>>389136165
>Both are beloved in their own way
So you're going to get a game not because you want to play it, but because of this?

>>389144734
Because Quake Champions as a (Quake) game is already working - it has movement from every Quake franchinse and not only (UT dash, Warsow walljump). Gameplay is juicy (but slightly buggy), 1v1 formula is working surprisingly decent, champions increase skillcap, forcing slightly diffrent behavior on every champ. I could go on and on here. Now for real it's only lacking maps and some slight imbalance over some champs but that's all - those can be ironed over time.

>>389145038
If you missed the beta, you can't play for free on the bethesda launcher right now. Spend the $30, it's worth it. The shitposters on /v/ want it to fail for some unknown reason, but it's a solid game already and plenty of old and new fags are having a lot of fun with it.

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>>389145242
>Spend the $30, it's worth it.

>>389145242
/v/ wants all games that are good to fail but praise the same shitty anime games over and over. Like Neptunia, fucking baby story book game.

>>389144440
you can get it on steam and if you dont like it refund it and wait til f2p

>>389145232
Yes, but why are you lying about Tim Willits. He was not a designer in Q3, check the credits. You said Q3 was "his vision" which is something blatantly false

The greatness of the old Quakes had little to do with him

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>>389145062
Don't tell me all of them are shitty.

>>389145369
I'm pretty certain /v/ only ironically praises things like neptunia or modern DoA

it still connects you to a botnet and is unplayable if you have less than 2mbit upload

>>389145281
It most certainly is.

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>>389145398
sorry for bringing wiki

>>389145403
I forgot Grisly Grotto was his. There's 3 in there I'd call memorable, counting Cistern which is one of two decent vanilla MP maps

>>389143561
You have to be pro to enjoy Quake

>>389145450
I dunno, I think the legitimately like it and they get angry when you disagree. I've had giant arguments with them. Maybe I fell for their bait. Though, DoA 5 isn't a bad game and it's funny to make people angry in multiplayer because it's a bunch of drunk ass dad's playing.

>>389145369
>>389145450
This is the only board that gets triggered by Wolfenstein.

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>look up some guides because new to Quake
>people play by using left click to move forward and right click to shoot
>they also use very low sensitivity

I'm entering uncharted territories, lads. Help.

>>389145761
Few pros use setups like that, and even less worthy of note. Most famous was probably toxjc, which for a time shot with the "c" key on the keyboard

>>389145761
The low sensitivity thing is something you get used to and it's actually a good habit to have. But if you already play fine with normal fps controls there's no reason to change unless you're trying to be number one every time. For now as a starter I would try to master movement and aim, those are the most important things. And button mapping will only make things more difficult starting out.

>>389145761
Good thing you can use your own binds - this is true in almost any game, really. You need not be scared.

>>389145761
This isn't unique to Quake or any other arena fps for that matter; my csgo friend has his movment bound to the arrow keys, jump to m2, secondary fire to kp_ins/num0, rctrl for crouch and rshift for walk. Also his mouse y-axis is inverted. And he plays with 800 cpi sens 1 win 6/11

>>389136165
Overwatch is more fun and more fresh, Quake is a 20 year old game, how long can you keep playing the same game over and over again?

>>389146712
sounds like controlling an airplane

>>389136165
Are characters like Nyx useless or do I just suck at the game

>>389147423
You suck. Use champs that have a higher health/armor while you get used to the game

>>389147527
So far I've played the best with Sorlag because of easy movement controls and pretty good health. I do horrible as anyone else. I want to get good with Slash but it's so hard.

>>389146927

If it aint broke don't fix it.

bethesda laucnher keeps getting stuck installing i wanna play

>>389136165
Both trash. Overwatch is not hiding it. Quake does.

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>>389146927
>mfw playing counter strike 1.3 - 1.6 for 16 years

>>389147654
I wouldn't try playing Slash until you get the hang of strafe jumping, because you have to add that crouch slide in with her. You can do some crazy shit once you learn it though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdJAGbl2Aq8

>>389148494
This is the comfiest tutorial I've ever seen. thanks for sharing.

>>389136165
So that lizard guy is the go-to tryhard hero, right?

>>389148494
How is he doing empty maps for practicing? I was trying to do this but couldn't find a way how.

>>389148871
Make a custom game

>>389148841
Anarki probably. Sorlag is too easy to use to be "tryhard"

Also,
>guy
It's a girl (female)

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I'm still on the fence between this and Absolver.
Guess I'll have to wait until one of them dies.

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>>389146927
>watered down TF2 with waifus
>fun and fresh

>>389136165
lul nugatttt

Didn't read the trhead but I was in a similar situation after getting me Lawbreakers on release and we all know how that turned out.
Tried Quake Champions in hopes I'd get Q3A feeling again but the hero system in combination with the business model turned me off and somehow netcode or animations felt weird, not quite sure what's wrong but it wasn't as snappy and precise as it should have been. So I bought me a cheap Overwatch key and 7 days into it I'm still having a good time.

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>>389136165
If you want something that requires a degree of skill then play Quake Champions.

If you want something that was probably designed by a team of psychologists play Overwatch

quake is shit play overwatch

>>389149652
Overwatch isn't even a video game

>>389136165
>All Overwatch threads on /v/ are about skins
>All quake thread on /v/ are about gameplay

The decision should be easy

>>389150020
>Press Q
>win
https://gfycat com/NiceCooperativeDegus

>>389137241
Team fortress also plays nothing like QC and isn't as shallow.

>>389149598
>Roadhog chain
>That list of "cannot miss"
I know the guy plays WoW but he cant really be that fucking stupid, right?

>>389150020
overwatch is the best game evar made

>>389149330
>not having P2W weapons is "watered down"
lmao

>>389150315
...do you miss the huge hitbox hook?

>>389138603
This guy's got it. Got shit on by For Honor, gonna wait a while to see how active it stays.

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How is this even an argument?

>should I play fucking Quake, or a game which in lots of areas has less depth than Splatoon which is literally designed for children

>>389150408
stock weapons are probably the best weapons in tf2 buddy

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>>389136165
Quake if you have skill and want a challenge.

Overwatch for casual fun.

>>389136165
>Similar ideas.

Totally different ideas.

>>389136165
>Similar ideas
Eh, what?
One is arena shooter, the other is team-based shitfest.

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>>389150540
>Casual
>Fun
Pick one

Depends how you feel about FPS games

Quake is designed for people who really like FPS.

Overwatch is designed for people who dislike FPS and aren't good at it, but kind of want to play it anyway

>>389150540
TF2 with community servers was casual fun. It was harmless, it was benign.

24/7 instarespawn 2fort, that's a good way to blow off some steam. Dance parties in the intel room, go make a sentry nest in the sewers, sniper duels on the battlements while everybody else just wanders from deathmatch to deathmatch.

Overwatch is filled with MOBA players masquerading as FPS players. They are psychotic, and the game astroturfing pretty much everything to push up its esports angle does not help anyone's behavior.

I''ve got modest FPS ability, I will get bodied to hell and back when I'm out of my depth, but I'd never met anybody overtly unpleasant in Quake.

>Playing shooters
>2017

http://nypost.com/2017/08/08/playing-these-video-games-could-lead-to-brain-disease/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/08/07/playing-shooter-video-games-damages-brain-study-suggests/

>>389152716
Playing anything with a minimap and shitload of objective markers will make you stupid, how's that surprising. Playing shooters and anything high-reflex is recommended for surgeons and anyone who needs hand-to-eye coordination

>>389152716
i enjoy having mental impairment

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>>389150408
>tf2
>p2w

>>389152694
You nailed it. Blizzfags are deranged.

>>389146927
I'm already tired of Overwatch
So congrats to Blizzard I guess

>>389154106
>I'm already tired of Overwatch
It's supposed to be that way.
Overwatch is very simple and repetetive.

>>389154185
That kinda sucks then

>>389154435
No, that means you're not the target audience.

>>389154540
What's the target audience then?

>>389154628
ASSFAGGOTS players who don't play shooters

>>389154628
Casuals.
ASSFAGGOTS player.
Anyone but shooter fans.

>>389154712
>>389154740
Oh, that's absolutely not me then

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Sorlag > Your favorite female Overwatch character

>>389154812
Play something else than.
Even current Q:C, with it's horrendous netcode, is better.
>>389154867
In terms of being broken?
Hell yeah.

What should I be doing to switch weapons? I feel like that's my biggest weakness in Champions and Live, I just use the best gun I have until I get something better like rocket or lightning because I'm way too used to small weapon limits in modern FPS games.

Do I just have to get used to pressing the number keys?

>>389136165
Get quake champions.
Overwatch is boring.

>>389155076
A lot of high level play will be focused on you switching weapons midfight. Opening up with a powerful rocket volley then immediately following up with lightning or even something more modest like the shotgun to seal the deal.

Rather than the usual 1-9 I would bind your gun keys closer to WASD. Obviously 1-5 is going to be fine, but think of it more like a circle or a wheel around your movement keys.

>>389138801
>but the game is solid and the devs are truly trying to make it great
SHINNNNG CHKCHK +0.05$ deposited to your bank account
*pink floyd "money" playing in the background*

>>389155648
Are you having a stroke?

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>>389155713

>>389150520
>probably

I have an HD4400 and was in the quake beta on my """""gaming laptop""""" before it died.

Should I bother redownloading the bethesda client for my surface pro 2? I want to shoot things even at super low res, but I don't know if it will run at all.

>>389155648
What is this, a twitch stream?

>tfw quake is becoming relevant again

Bigger than CS:GO when?

>>389152716
>>389153161
study was debunked

>>389156715
Never, Quack has a bretty high skill ceiling.

>>389156918
so does CS, no one thought CS was gonna come back, and it still did.

With good matchmaking and good dev support Quake could become big.
But that's a big if...

>>389156715
>relevant
how is this turd relevant

tell me

>>389157039
CS is much easier to get into than Quake.

>>389156606
>HD4400
>gaming laptop

Goyming laptop.

>>389157067
>b-but it's different from the 20 year old formula
>muh champions

>>389157039
thing is the skill ceiling is way more obvious in Quake than in CSGO
Same with Rocket League, shitters have fun since all the chaos in lower ranks is amusing

>>389157204
No, I had a "gaming" laptop with an old graphics card in it from like 2 years ago that died because gaming laptops suck dick.

All I have now is a tablet with an HD4400 until graphics card prices go down and I can build a tower.

>>389157250
True, but with decent matchmaking even shitters should be able to have fun.

>>389157325
>Intel iGPU
Oh don't even hope to launch it properly.
>>389157210
It's still 90% Quack though.

>>389157325
Buy a cooling pad or make one.

>>389157345
but you need a larger playerbase for a balanced mm
I feel like it all depends how well it is recieved by normies when f2p launches. Hopefully Bethesda doesnt fuck up marketing it

>>389157404
>It's still 90% Quack though.

Which is good.
Maintaining the old Quake feeling and adding new gameplay elements at the same time was no easy task, and i'm quite happy with what they came up with.

Now a fix for the netcode...

>>389157404
Why are modern devs so bad at optimization.

>>389157661
they are aware of the netcode / hitreg issue and they are working on it
at least thats what they said in their latest q&a

>>389157803
It's just Intel that can't into GPUs.
Look for Larrabee to understand how retarded they are.