What the fuck this game is fucking ridicoulous >assassination

The DLC with the legendary enemies is fucking garbage.

Knowing when to cut your losses and run away/let a mission go is part of learning to play the game. Game gets a lot easier as you level up and get your OP equipment and abilities.

That's XCOM baby!

>>389131438
fuck me
i cant even pass the second mission with out losing everybody in xcom 2

>>389131589
I thought I disabled it but enemies still appear, also wtf they can make an action during my turn?

>>389131438
stop talking about the dlc it's not out on consoles yet ;_;

>>389131725
It just disables the mission.

>>389131749
I assume you have no mods on the console. Sucks.

>>389132276
Yeah, no mods, but I like the vanilla experiences of both Enemy Within and vanilla XCOM 2. The only actual mods I'd want are the cosmetic ones, for variety's sake, I don't like most mods that modify the gameplay. Still, would play it on PC for smoother framerate if I could.

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Someone help me since I'm dumb, what does the cooldown matter if it only has 1charge per mission?

>>389132539

Probably has some modifier or way to increase charge?

>>389131725
>>389131842
Strangely if you disable the mission they appear earlier so ironically keeping the mission on is better. Or just uninstalling the DLC entirely. It really says something when a DLC is so detrimental it has to be entirely uninstalled.

>>389132632

I like the DLC, but even I can't defend how stupid it is, they should make it trigger one random Alien Ruler per campaign, at a random point in it, instead of forcing the three rulers at the same places everytime. It's not even that hard, just too predictable, which is something you don't want in XCOM.

>>389132453
I hear ya. Customization mods are really nice.

>>389132539
It probably didn't have one charge initially, but they forgot to remove the cooldown from the description when they changed that

>>389131438
>don't understand a word of this
>this is where XCOM is now
Thanks Firaxis

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>play on Easy
>still nearly team wiped every few missions

>>389134308
git gud, I finished campaign on 2nd try
got to reset from scratch because alien rulers though, and final mission was a pain in the ass

honestly I really enjoyed the first Firaxis XCOM because it was essentially a casual remake of classic XCOM and the expansion added cool shit and something entirely new with EXALT, but I never finished XCOM 2, I never liked the new setting and artstyle, I hate the overused timers, and this expansion with the chosen and ridiculous new human factions, I don't know my friends fucking love it but I kinda don't see why

>facility mission
>warning that a powerful enemy is guarding it
>drop into the armoury to double check I've got everything built that I'll need
>go into mission
>no alien ruler
I can't tell if something screwed up or it was just sitting in the arse end of the map idling.

Also animation errors everywhere. Half the shots I take are made backwards, the advent mechs always launch their rockets backwards, arms on my soldiers disappear when I swap weapon loadouts, dead aliens stay standing on the map instead of dropping, game sits still for a good 15 seconds when an ability goes off mid-move or when it happens due to being revealed.

A true Firaxis game to the core.

>>389131842
Jake is the biggest troll

I never got around to playing xcom 2. Should i play vanilla first, or just go straight to WotC?

>>389131438
>can't take anyone above sergeant rank
nice artificial difficulty

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Anyone else have their Reaper's damage completely fall off mid game? My Elena Dragunova feels so useless now

>>389131438
>skulljack officer because campaign objective
Here's where you fuck up, grub

>>389136101
Still a good spotter, at least.

>>389136101
She serves best as a vanguard flanker with the passive lets you remain in stealth when you get the killing blow

>>389136101
go behind the enemy and take flanking killshots to stay in cover

>>389134308
Grenades

>>389131438
GET FUCKED.

>>389136231
pretty much all I use her for now

>>389136258
problem is that she cant kill shit on her own

>>389134308
You disgust me

>>389136428
>problem is that she cant kill shit on her own
but she doesn't need to.

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>ironman mode
>one wrong turn and i lose most of my squad
>dont feel like playing anymore

I find the game pretty easy, though I do really like to take my time.
The only bs I've experienced is that one of my chosen can't trigger overwatch. So she runs in, slices someone, turns invisible, and runs away. With no way to punish. It does force me to actually chase her down, which is a nice change of pace.

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>start xcom 2
>wow this looks pretty
>plays like it should
>can blow enemies up now fuck yeah
>timed missions but that's okay
>get to world map
>SCAN THIS
>hookay
>NOW SCAN THIS
>but i'm not done scanning the first-
>SCAN THE NEW THING
>ALSO MAKE CONTACT TO ANOTHER AREA
>how do i do that?
>FUCK YOU JUST DO IT
>STOP SCANNING AND DO THIS MISSION
yeah no fuck this game

Sometimes the best thing to do is to just retreat.
This game can be so broken that you can't conceivably win every mission.

>>389131606
>Game gets a lot easier as you level up and get your OP equipment and abilities.

>>can't take anyone above sergeant rank

>>389136638
If it's not mission critical or a raid just ignore it and go back for it another time.

>>389136584
so don't play ironman, dumbass

>>389132539
maybe if you miss or something?

>>389136638
too much of a brainlet to prioritize

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>>389131438

Am I fucked? I'm at mid-late game where I need armor and weapon upgrades just to not die in 1 hit to hit everything and yet I need Advent Trooper corpses to build the items I need. And basic Advent troopers have stopped spawning for me since awhile now. I think my campaign might be screwed.

>>389136638
>Button clearly says "make contact"
>Still ask how
I think you're just dumb

>>389136643
Never felt the need to retreat in EU and vanilla xcom 2, but having a supply airlift mission get turned into a slow war of attrition because of endless streams of the lost and the chosen who likes to stay a mile away from combat and spawn spectrals was a very harsh lesson in knowing when to cut losses.

Though apparently if you pick up at least one supply chest and immediately evac it's considered a success so that was nice.

>>389136906
just research the paladin armor or whatever its called

>>389136906
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=687662081

>>389134308
Unless this is ironic, fucking how? Explain? HOW?
What the fuck do you do that you have troubles? Do you fail to comprehend that the entire game is about denying the enemy their cover, either by flanking, grenading or getting height advantage.

What the fuck are you doing?!

>>389136101
Because snipers were completely broken in EU and EW so they wanted a change. Snipers now start with squad sight and basically everything else is movement or pistol bonuses until Colonel when you get serial but considering the damage falloff it becomes a tool to clear pods of weak enemies. So snipers carry early and are utility mid to late.

Reaper functions much the same way basically getting snapshot instead of squad sight and getting claymore to clear packs and shadow to stay concealed. The real difference is banish/annihilate and target definition allowing you to still have some carry potential mid game and increasing utility in the late game.

tl;dr snipers had their time to shine and now they are a support role.

>>389136101
Fuck no, they were just utility earlygame, but lategame Banish deletes the most powerful enemy per mission, even fucking chosen and rulers.

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>>389136638
>being so fucking retarded that having to pick which one out of three buttons he wants to press first is too difficult
jesus christ, how do function

>>389137491
So they just made Rangers the most retardedly overpowered class in the entire game, and WotC did not change this even with all the nerfs. They still rape everything especially if you use bonds cleverly. I wont even mention psionics since what were they thinking when designing Stasis and Dominate?

>>389137491
get a load of this pretentious faggot

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>>389137727
i dont think that word means what you think it does
lurk more

>>389136101
Claymores aside they are great last-hitters as they hit quite reliably. You deal more damage when you shoot an enemy who has already been damaged this turn, you can remain stealthed from kills and also rack up crit chance from killing blows.
This changes once you unlock Banish - as someone said you can use that to kill any strong unit in one use (make sure you upgrade the magazine of the gun).
The recon bonus to permanently see enemies which got spotted by the Reaper is also incredibly strong.

The sad truth here is that there's no reason to ever bring a sniper when you could bring a Reaper instead.

>>389137727
Where is the pretense?

>>389137980
>The sad truth here is that there's no reason to ever bring a sniper when you could bring a Reaper instead.
Until you get chosen Hunter weaponry, they're bretty good. And if you use AP to get both pistol and sniper skills they're 5/5 bretty good

>>389137889
>talks about "carry potential" and "utility"
>pretends to not be a pretentious fagget
lmao

>kill Chosen
>get ridiculously overpowered Chosen weapons
>everything becomes trivial
Not sure if I like this design choice. It already ruined the alien ruler DLC for me.

>>389137980
man i just finished the game, i always had my reaper and sniper on same missions with the reaper spotting from shadow and the sniper having free squadsight over huge distances.

>>389131438
>remember those annoying bosses that come interrupt your mission?
>and once they were killed, they would leave you alone forever?
>fuck that, here's mid-bosses that keep spawning at each mission

>>389138070
>standard fucking gamer term
>pretentious
Are you retarded?

>chosen weak to explosives
>spawns next to gas tank
>claymore
>grenade

THATS XCOM FUCKBOI

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>turn off turn limits
>can finally enjoy the game

>>389138090
The rifle you get from the warlock is great for dealing with codexes and their splitting. Alien warlords was trivialised for me by the skirmisher. Wrath into them, stun for 2 actions, retribution goes off, make that a four action stun, second strike, 6 actions letting me wail on it.

>>389138260
>t. shitter
The timers are barely relevant in WotC.

>>389138234
standard terms are damage and recon/scout. carry and utility are hipster speak.

>>389138140
I'm currently rolling with
Ranger, Ranger, Reaper, Skirmisher, Templar, Grenadier
The latter is only to destroy terrain or shred armor but the double Ranger is insane damage. Not only are shotgun crits totally overpowered (so is run & gun) but the additional attack from Blademaster during the enemy turn makes everything laughingly easy - it's free damage without cooldown. The Skirmisher also gets a free melee attack and can pull people out of cover or go in for a stun. The Templar is the only one I'd consider dropping but as they do destroy cover behind the target of their melee attack, can be immune to a single attack after having meleed someone and have great PSI utility they are just superior to a class to the sniper who does nothing but bring damage.
The only situation in which I'd bring a sniper or two are ruler fights as they no longer get free turns for actions out of their vision range so you can just poke them to death with snipers as long as the Reaper provides squad sight.

Finished the game ironman on normal diff and only lost 2 guys, once you rush the tech wep/armor you just roll over everything.

>>389138857
Yeah cos normal is a fucking push over.

>>389138857
Now that you know the mechanics try a harder difficulty. It makes it a lot more fun as you might not be able to win a mission, have to extract and then deal with the conquences on the worldmap.

>>389136198
how so? it's a campaign objective

>>389138260
>t. Jeb!

>>389139071
Because that's what spawns the Codex. If you're not ready for it or in a good position to fight it, it will be a huge nuisance.

>>389139071
You only skulljack when you actually are ready to finish the campaign, before that you just gear up and put your barrack in order.

>>389137372
I do all of this shit but the game still pulls shit like: missing on a 90+% chance to hit, being in full cover but still getting hit from massive distances for full damage, being in a flank position that somehow isn't counted as a flank even though I'm a single tile away, etc.

>>389131725
Just don't do the snake mission, those missions and the legendaries are garbage with such ass backwards mechanics. Firaxis has obviously just been snatching mechanics from traditional games, like Lair Actions etc but in that case they simply don't work properly in the mechanics of their game. Its why poisons/fire is so effective against them.

>>389138412

>recon
aight' cunt nice one.

>>389139206
Yeah no.

>>389139285
>missing on a 90+% chance to hit
?? If its not 100%, its not guaranteed, dipshit.
>being in full cover but still getting hit from massive distances for full damage
Full cover doesn't make you invulnerable, its just additional defense.
>being in a flank position that somehow isn't counted as a flank even though I'm a single tile away
So you werent even flanking? Mate there's a tool to see if you get a flank shot, its called left alt.

>>389135537
vanilla
Wotc is some kind of new game plus, you have to know what you're doing

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>>389131438
>Turn based game got a sequel but not the FPS

it's not fair bros!

>>389139392
>Yeah no.
Nice argument, bro

>>389139406
It ties into XCOM and XCOM 2 though

>Power armor
>Space Marine voice mod
>Flamethrowers

LET THE PURGATION BEGIN

>>389139392
I understand that 90% isn't 100%, but it's still basically guaranteed and missing on that kind of chance is very frustrating, especially if it's direly needed in the situation (and if playing on Ironman so you can't scum). I know full cover isn't invulnerability, but taking lots of damage even behind full cover is annoying and makes it feel useless. And there have been times where I am behind/to the side of an enemy, about 3 tiles or less away, with full view of the enemy, and it isn't a flank "just because" for whatever reason.

The game seems to only work in absolutes for the player, but not the enemy. If an enemy was disoriented, max distance away, shooting at an enemy behind full cover, they will still get max damage crit every time; it's extremely annoying.

Thought I was enjoying it until I realized the Lost were a way of nerfing the only sure thing of XCOM 2 nades.
Makes activating an unwanted pod a death sentence.

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Anybody killed a chosen? I smashed the assassin bitch but it was the naughtiest mission i have done so far

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>>389139710
>lost
>gernade nerf
Have you tried using lures+grenades? Shit's hilarious.

>>389139406
Wanted to like this game but holy shit it was bad.

>never finished xcom 1
>read the plot of 2
>turns out never finishing was canon

Any other game does this?

>>389139667
>I understand that 90% isn't 100%, but it's still basically guaranteed and missing on that kind of chance is very frustrating
<9/10 is guaranteed.
no. If you want guaranteed stuff the game gives you tons of mechanics that cant miss. Shotguns at close range, Templars, psionics, all consumables, (height advantage in certain points), etc.

>And there have been times where I am behind/to the side of an enemy, about 3 tiles or less away, with full view of the enemy, and it isn't a flank "just because" for whatever reason.
And that whatever reason has been that the enemy has had cover. You obviously do not comprehend how cover and flanking works in this game. It is completely binary and thus use the fucking preview flank button, so you wont have to guess.

>>389134365
I don't know what you guys are doing wrong, first playthrough was on commander for wotc and I played a year long campaign with no problems and saw alien rulers maybe 3 times, I had integrated DLC on and never activated the archon.

>>389139826
Legend of Zelda

>>389139742
Assassin was the most difficult of them. Hunter was a complete joke and Warlock is too easily countered by just getting some mindshields on important guys.

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>>389140007
Mfw watching the mission unfold and enemies spawning out the ass.

So glad the mission ended when the statue was blown up

So how good is the DLC?
The price is offputting, but the shit in it sounds neat.

>>389136101
Just save them to banish sectopods.

>>389139767
Haven't tried that yet.
Figured they'd go for you cause you summoned them in the first place.

Just on a nasty mission with the Warlock, those new robot mist enemies, ton of fucking lost and sneks. The Warlock is hiding on the other side of the map and just keeps summoning shit and now a shieldbearer just came wondering though the fog.

I like most of the changes but this focus on heroes and chosen and shit bums me out.
XCOM should be about expendable recruits surviving the massacres and developing into murder machines. Really want a LW3 to sort this shit out.

>>389139392
getting autocrit through full cover, eu aim rolls mandatory to not getting fucked over by vanilla

2hard4u? It's okay, the game is Dark Souls of tacticool games after all, not all of us are HARDCORE.
Mario+Rabbids is a better X-Com game than all nuCOMs combined.

>>389139710
>Lost

Anon, a single sharpshooter can wipe out all the visible lost in an area in a single turn. If you have the skill where they shoot everything, even easier since you don't have to manually shoot individually.

>>389140582
Lure works basically like Boomer Bile from Left 4 Dead and makes advent aggro the lost and waste turns.

>>389138471
Yeah, the Templar is fun as fuck but there are better alternatives.

>>389141095
>Anon, a single sharpshooter can wipe out all the visible lost in an area in a single turn.
You should play on a difficulty above normal mate. Sharpshooters do jack shit after earlygame when the lost hp start getting above 5 consistently. Unless you get Between the Eyes resistance order

>>389138412
utility has been around as long as gaming and carry was popularized by mobas which are at the peak of their popularity. Hipsters pride themselves on being ahead of trends not in the thick of them.

What are you even talking about.

>>389140992
EW was much more just about difficulty

>>389138049
This. I use my sniper with the hunter weapons at every possible chance its completely unstoppable. Reaper is nice but they are just banish bots in the lategame as their normal damage is terrible against any slightly beefier enemies

>>389141210
>between the eyes
holy fuck that order is a must have at all times, sharpshooters instakill every lost pack alone with the pistol

>>389141831
Mech troopers make the early game trivial and mimetic skin makes the late game trivial.

git gud

>>389137980
>The sad truth here is that there's no reason to ever bring a sniper when you could bring a Reaper instead.

Pistol sniper is pretty godly still with the various types of ammo.

Though I've never found much use for normal snipers, the DLC so far feels like its better designed for them since theres more slower paced missions now.

Overall however, Snipers do more damage than Reapers

>>389137980
>The sad truth here is that there's no reason to ever bring a sniper when you could bring a Reaper instead.
Bring both you retard. Reaper scouts, sniper sits in the back killing everything if the mission type allows it.

So why exactl did they think all the chosen having the same weaknesses was a good idea?

its fucking boring when they are always weak to faction x and explosions.

>>389143610
Assassin in my game was resistant to blasts, only hunter took more damage from them.

>>389143610
mine all have different weaknesses besides faction x

>>389143610
Think their weaknesses are kind of randomly generated. Assassin in mine is actually immune to explosives but other weakness is taking more damage after consecutive attacks. Faction weakness is probably always one though.

Is there any reason to beat vanilla 2 if you're planning on buying War of the Chosen? Never beat the base game

>>389143720
>>389143737
>>389143758
both the warlock and the assassin are weak to explosives and why is 2 and 2 the limit?

on legendary they should have more strengths but firaxis is incompetent so i guess i shouldn't expect anything.

hopefully mods fix this shit or this was a waste of $40

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Well at least you can play the DLC.
I just get crashes after crashes after 5-10 minutes of game. I'm actually surprised that so many people managed to finish the game already. At least for me and a couple of other people complaining of firaxis forums, the game is unplayable in the current state.

>>389143963
>why is 2 and 2 the limit?
That's false though. They get more strengths as the campaign goes on.

>>389143963
>both the warlock and the assassin are weak to explosives

Its random and I guess you just got lucky with the same weakness on both.

>>389143963
>both the warlock and the assassin are weak to explosives
Mine wasn't, but I'm playing on scrub difficulty so maybe that's factored in. Also the chosen get tougher as time goes on and they gain experience.

>>389143963
The Chosen are training over time. Those bars that are filling in the overview screen below them indicate their strenght. Each segment of the bar makes them stronger, including new abilities.
This means early on they are far easier than later on - depending which perks they're rolling. Immunities in particluarly are pretty annoying to deal with and might even invalidate weaknesses (such as gaining melee immunity when they have meele vulnerability).

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>>389143963
The weaknesses are random you nigger

I wish there were a mod that allows playing the Chosen instead of XCOM, bit like Chaos in Total Warhammer. Seeing as there are campaign related progress mechanics in place already it wouldn't take much to adapt them as playable faction of sorts with the goal of gaining knowledge to assault the Avenger.

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>Playing with permanent dark events
>Lost world comes up

>>389146229
There are many worse ones:
increased scanning times, decreased enemy Avatar build interval, more ADVENT on missions, 100% higher intel costs, 50% less supply from monthly reward, UFO hunting Avenger, dead ADVENT revive as zombies, extra armor on ADVENT and Chosen not having weaknesses anymore.
The Lost are fairly easy to deal with in comparison as you can clean up a ton of them with a single unit and don't even lose the turn unless you miss.
I really do like permanent dark events though and feel they should be enabled by default and the toggle the optional settings. It adds a lot of variety to playthroughs.

>>389144806
>knowledge level
GG for you

>>389134308
>use grenades
>use cover ALWAYS
>spread you guys some to hit flanking positions.
>make sure you're taking in 1 specialist for hacking missions
>upgrade squad size asap

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>Set up ambush against 2 groups sitting on top of each other
>Kill 5 dudes
>2 fags miss their >90% shots to kill some douche flamethrower and last guy shoots him but doesn't kill him
>Chucks a grenade and burns my best soldier to death, another guy starts bleeding out
>Sniper gets upset his gay lover died and charges into a new pod and gets shanked by a stun lancer
>Just nope the rest of my squad out of there dragging the unconscious retard with them.

I think that's the first time I've evac'd in all my playthroughs xcom 1 or 2 and it was against some shitter advent troopers.

>>389144806
>this is x-com today
Why do people buy this garbage? One step away from asian-tier writing.

>>389136584
>having personal feelings about comrades is the worst thing a soldier can do jack

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Well this was fun despite some of the bullshit I had to put up with.

>>389146229
>bring a pistolero or anyone with an autoloader/extended mag

Be glad its not extra armor, extra Chryssalids or less supply/intel

>>389136101
Put superior extended mag on her to positively kill the most annoying thing on every mission.
Also use enhanced claymores/sticky mines to blow up a pod instantly.

>>389148267
just triggers some easy as fuck "save your ass" mission

>>389151290
oh. I thought you just lose

>beat wotc
>the ending sets up for more dlc

i half expected it and im still mad.

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>>389136101
If you detonate a claymore using a normal Reaper attack if you have stealth on killshot, everyone in your squad stays concealed. Once you max out the claymores a bit, you can half destroy a few pods before even engaging if you aren't worried about time.

>Get templar
>They get mind controlled on the first mission and go on a rampage

Gee thanks greatest ally

>>389144806

SFM porn when?

>>389152373
That's what you get for filling his head with impure thoughts about snake ladies.

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>>389138257

>>389139710
>fight advent
>grenade a pod
>advent get swarmed by lost
>Just take a step back and watch the show
>this is somehow a bad thing

New expansion made the game a lot harder it feels, thought it'd make it a WHOLE lot easier with the specialist units

But the fatigue system means you can't just make one super powered godsquad, you have to use all your soldiers

It's neat, but also shit

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Are people really so bad at taking out the Alien Rulers? Get them burned and poisoned and acid-covered, use the Boltcaster to stun them and Frost Bomb to freeze them, and have Repeaters equipped, and they go down like pussies.

>>389136673
The game isn't like fire emblem
The missions are not a linear progression of story events that you must go through
You are the commander of a bedraggled resistance force. You cannot be everywhere at once. You cannot do everything. You have to choose your missions and sometimes you have to choose what you have to give up.

That's the purpose of dark events. You either should not have embarked on that mission, thus preserving your soldier's health and energy, or once embarked you should be able to see that you are better off cutting your losses and pulling out than risking your squad.

In Ironman, anyways.

>>389152941
>be preparred for alien rulers to show up always, have cooldowns saved for them and have squad optimalized for them

>>389152913
>mfw beat EU, EW and 2 with just 6-10 big dick chads and a bunch of rookies that did nothing
>playing WoTC and I have over 20 units trained up to various degrees

I'm actually enjoying the fatigue system, I just wish it didn't drop so fast.

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>>389152718
>Assassin throws a grenade
>She gets pummeled to death by lost

>>389153208
I feel the same, it's really cool in theory, but the bar depletes so damn fast I don't even have time to get attached to any of my soldiers because the team looks so different every deployment.

>>389144806
Wait, their names are randomized? Why the fuck?

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>tfw you can't take Bradford out on any missions except for the optional Alien Rulers-starting mission

>>389144030
Do you have any mods? Because a lot of mods are broken now and crash the game.
Play vanilla and look for WOTC optimized mods.

>>389153496
>>389153208
For me the soldier bond thing has succeeded in making me pay attention to who's who in my squads even though the roster changes fairly frequently

>>389148982
I hope you learned your lesson.
Don't put your entire squad on overwatch during ambushes.

they really need to do something about the hunter, he might be a threat if he didn't just keep doing that tracking shot...

>>389151539
>the ending sets up for more dlc
Nah, just more setup for their terror from the deep sequel that the base game already hinted at.

>assault Assassin's stronghold
>kill her the first time
>archons, berserkers, priests start spawning while I have to attack the pillar
>Chosen respawns in one turn
How the fuck are you supposed to do this shit on the highest difficulty

>>389131438
>((((integrate)))) the XCOM2 DLC
>Shen's Last Gift Never pops
I had to play a vanilla game just to see it. Not that I'd want it in WotC with all the other autistic plate spinning going on.

>>389154234
>mfw haven't even reached that far, dealing with the enemies in the mission to reach the teleporter

Did you kill all the enemies or just rush there?

>>389138257
>chosen weak to explosives and reapers
>remote start the car they spawn next to
>30 Damage
>sniper kills them afterwards

>>389148982
Once I learned to take evacs seriously as a legitimate option my enjoyment of the game effectively doubled

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>>389154234
>mfw Andromedon spawns
fuck that mission, not looking forward to the next two

>>389154383
I was just travelling along the edge of the fortress until I stumbled into the teleporter room. Killed everything in each room I went into.

>>389138234
>using the word gamer unironically
Holy shit this guy is serious.

>>389132539
There's a Skirmisher ability at Colonel rank that gives your other abilities an extra charge. That bit there is probably for the possibility that your Reaper can obtain it as an XCOM ability.

>>389154327
Yeah, you can just build sparks by default with that option.
The alien hunter weapons can be researched pretty early, too. And Rulers only show up for the first time on facility missions.

>>389154615
>Andromedon spawns
Fuck, I don't wanna deal with that shit yet.

>>389139742
Depending on what strengths they get, they can either be complete pushovers or terrifying. My assassin had immunity to melee and return fire on misses, so I prioritized her first

What happens when the chosen gets max knowledge?
Is there a lose condition tied to that?

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>fantasize about the Chosen abducting one of my soldiers and extracting information from them in a sexual way that causes the Chosen to learn to appreciate the attractiveness and sexuality of the human form

I'm at the part now where berserkers and those green guys are appearing and rookies die in on hit. Is this supposed to be the case?

>>389155205
iirc they just get to attack the avenger with cannons and shiet

>>389155259
yes

>>389155043
>Immunity to Overwatch and Reaction Fire
>Immunity to Melee
>Return Fire on Misses

The assassin is scary. Thank god she could only summon ADVENT Troopers and not priests or stun lancers or mechs in my playthrough.

>>389155513
consider yourself lucky. I forgot that she also had shadowstep and summon priests. definitely a good idea to kill her first

>>389155750
My Warlock has summon priests. Luckily him and the Hunter have shit skills compared to the Assassin.

>>389155238
Is the muscle slider mod avalible for wotc?

firaxis ruined xcom

wheres the granularity

wheres the micro

wheres the ridiculous situations

its shit.

>>389154234
There are lots of things to help make it easier and it helps to remember what the goal is:
The mission is won the second the Chosen dies. If you kill the pillar and the Chosen respawns with less HP you only have to kill it and can ignore the rest of the enemies around to win regardless. This means if you can kill the pillar and have the actions left to then burst down the Chosen in the same turn (with a Reaper using Banish or by casting Amplify on the Chosen with a Templar and then using strong single-target dmg abilities with 1-2 soldiers to finish the Chosen) you've already won and don't need to deal with the other enemies at all.
You can use a mimic beacon to buy time, various grenades to CC or increase your chances of survival for the turn or many of the available abilities to get free actions on characters on which it matters to secure a kill or get them to avoid a single attack - with risky placement of Rangers after getting a kill the turn you can usually just trick the enemy into wasting an attack on them. Rangers also get a free melee attack with Bladestorm during the enemy turn so you can use that to your advantage to deal more damage on other enemies and sitll kill a target with low HP during its own turn. Burning enemies can not use special abilities, the same goes for disoriented ones - poison gives only a hit chance penalty though. An Archon is rarely a threat in first turn as it usually flies up to cast blazing pillars when it sees enough enemies and if you haven't damaged it before it won't have a free additional turn to fire the pillars off instantly. Priests without the option to use abilities are fairly harmless and in your example you'd only have to worry about the berserker but it would at most stun one of your soldiers, giving you enough time to finish the Chosen in the second turn if you couldn't do it in the same you destroyed the pillar.

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>>389156971
XSoldier's not working with WOTC at the moment, but Vectorplexus is in the process of working on it.

I hate the dlc. I have a dark event so every mission is full of zombies. Then a chosen shows up and you have a turn timer. Fucking retarded

>>389158152
But Lost do not cost you an action as long as you hit them. All that happens is that you need to reload every now and then on the one soldier you use to kill the Lost with.

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>still no updated long war for WotC

>>389158298
Anon, I...

If you guys wanted to be able to use battlemaster and whiplash some more there's a mod that gives them a 5 and 3 second turn cooldown respectively.

>>389155238
>>389158091
there a similar mod for women soldiers?

>>389158805
>women soldiers
what kinda military operation are you even running, son?

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>>389136638
Use mods that make that shit appear less?

>>389158961
>you need chromosomes XY to be able to handle a gun
It's 2035, come on now.

>>389158961

A resistance which needs everyone it can get.

Just a heads up, the lost have a 70% chance to attack your guys and only 30% to attack Advent.

There is a mod to make it fair (aka 50/50)

>Replay Enemy Within with some mods, possibly LW
>Get War of the Chosen and replay Xcom 2

Which should I do? How many fixes and improvements are in the expansion anyway?

>>389136906
what the fuck did you use the corpses for? i have lots of them and i researched armor

>>389158961
HA, I get it, because women are shit and weak and pathetic, well met good /pol/!

Am i the only that thinks that taking down a chosen fortress not reducing the avatar project is retarded?

A FUCKING FINAL TIER MISSION DOESNT REDUCE A SINGLE BLIP AND SCREWED MY CAMPAIGN THANK YOU JAKE

>>389160601
I cheat the avatar project, I hate that gimmicky shit

>>389160925

Cheat how so?

>>389161067
On the console RemoveFortressDoom number
It's been a while since I last played it, I think it doesn't remove the points coming from extra facilities. But it removes those bullshit points that keep adding up

>>389161067
there's an in-game option to double the length of the Avatar timer

What kind of dumb shit thought forcing you to use low rank soldiers in a mission was a good idea? And they don't even prevent chosen or rulers from showing up. So, you could be facing ranked up chosen with rookies.

>>389161234
>>389161258

Oh ok. Don't wanna do that then. If there isn't a way to cheese it legit.

What do I play first, the War of the Chosen or Long War? I only played the original campaign

>>389161684
animation error, there was LoS

>>389131438
Skip the mission or use immediate evac if you can't finish it you dumb fucking retard.

>>389161682
You shouldn't have trouble with the Avatar timer in WotC. There are covert missions to both reduce progress by 2 and get Facility Leads (Which allow you to take down facilities without making contact with the area.)

Couple that with the fact that Reapers can solo Facilities with stealth you should have no trouble.

>>389161913

Like actual missions they can solo?
How?

>>389162198
they have stupidly good concealment and you need to be right next to an enemy to be revealed from concealment

>>389162198
Their stealth is OP. Basically you can easily run up to the bomb site undetected.

Then look around, see what's the closest evac point from the bomb site. Claymore a wall if you need to (won't unstealth you). Plant bomb and dash to Evac in one turn.

>>389132453
Stop Wasting My Time is a fucking godsend even if it's just by a little bit because fuck me XCOM wastes too much of your time.

>>389161856
Animation error my ass.
There's height and depth in the game but there's definitely no collision detection in LoS.

>>389161775
WotC of course. LW2 is rubbish

>>389162720
I mean the snake should have moved to the side before attacking, but didn't

>>389161684
HATE TRAINS

Today I just finished my vanilla XCom 2 campaign for the first time. I loved it. People bitching about timers and Avatar Project are fucking babies, I had no issues at all. Maybe they are a lot more unforgiving on higher difficulties, idk.
Should I get WOTC? 40 bucks seems like a lot for a DLC.

>>389163287
WOTC is literally XCOM 2 vanilla with a bit more mission variety and extra classes and added RNG to balance out the new classes.
Take that as you will.

>>389163856
>with a bit more mission variety
Try a ton more mission variety. I dont think I had a single VIP extraction the whole campaign for one.
Also covert ops and resistance orders add a decent amount of extra stuff to the strategic layer which is extremely lacking otherwise.

So let me get this straight
None of the DLC outside of the expansion pack is worth it, right?

>>389164424
booty shorts are totally worth it

>>389164101
> I dont think I had a single VIP extraction the whole campaign for one.

nigga that's the only mission i get from the bald fuck from the council.

>>389161913
>get Facility Leads

so you depend on the RNG giving you this

>>389164758
>Depend
No I am still making Contact Progress towards facilities, but if a Lead pops up on the covert options I'll take it immediately.