Sonic Mania

>>389120684
it was fun

>oh wait i need to complain about something because im a loser who actually just enjoys bitching and not fun games

You are SUPER GAMER!
May I have a link to your superplays channel?

>>389120754
The only marginally challenging part of the game are the special stages.

>>389120684
This game's difficulty doesn't change how fucking shitty this game is. Now if you excuse me, I'm going to do my 15th playthrough.

>>389120684
Sonic was never hard.

>>389120684
You played an beat every sonic game prior to this one.
you have gained some kind of proficiency in playing sonic games.
It's like people saying Dark souls 3 was easier than Demon's souls. Well yeah it seems easier. Because you have played several games like it over the course of your life and became adept at it.
go back and play the old sonic games and you won't ever run out of lives, drown, or time over besides act 2 of the pyramid. fuck that level. it's just bad..

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>>389120684
I agree the game is easy & I only died 3 times while getting 100% but this didn't hinder my enjoyment of the game. That being said we seem to be the minority on this, OP, plenty of people are getting Game Overs on this game shockingly.

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>>389120684

The game is way too easy, but for some reason it's getting a reputation of being bullshit hard, especially the bosses.

Some limp wristed faggot on Sonic Retro cried for several post about the Puyo Puyo boss being too fucking hard.

>>389120931
It doesn't shock me. It just sucks. I glanced over my sister playing it and she's been losing like crazy. It makes me upset because the majority gamer is the reason games are never truly challenging anymore. The last time I felt challenged in a game was unironically Undertale genocide run.

>easy = bad, hard = good
This is the dumbest shit you fags believe

>>389121001
>Some limp wristed faggot on Sonic Retro cried for several post about the Puyo Puyo boss being too fucking hard.
I'm like super fucking horrible at Puyo Puyo, I couldn't get past like level 3 in Mean Bean Machine but that boss is so piss-easy, Robotnik pretty much kills himself & barely ever messes with you on it. You sure as hell don't even need to rely on combos so I don't get the struggle here.

>>389121001
>Puyo Puyo boss being too fucking hard.
what
You can literally not even go for even a two chain and Robotnik will just off himself.

>>389121001
Fucking how?
the boss lets you fucking win if you don't stack a straight line tower and make one or two matches the boss is defeated.
The game even gives you the ability to play PuyoPuyo as a side mode so people can play it if they wanted too.

>>389120684

I mean, it's a Sonic game. I finished the game with over 34 lives on my first playthrough and I ain't complaining. It's only easy for me because I played all of the other Sonic games literally hundreds of times over the past 25 years. I've seen other people get game overs at the Chemical Plant zone.

>>389120930
>besides act 2 of the pyramid. fuck that level. it's just bad..
No, you see, fuck that. First off, it's easy as fuck to not get hit by a ghost. Secondly, everyone I see play this is just paranoid hopping between light switches and not even playing the level half the time.

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>>389121634
This is the power of autism I presume.

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>>389121634
Just remember guys. Arin "MY PUSSAY" Hanson played this part and didn't lose *once*

>>389121634

Huh. I didn't even know it was possible to lose at the Chemical Plant act 2 boss. Guess I learned something today.

>>389122032
Casuals find a way.

>>389122032

It's not possible to lose to CPZ2's boss unless you kill yourself.

>Breeze through the game
>Oil Ocean boss
>Lose 17 lives against it because I keep dying on or under the platforms
>Beat it
>Keep on breezing through the game
>Final boss in the first try

Well that was something

>>389122032

I have a friend who lost at it. He also confided in me that he only ever played Sonic 3 & Knuckles as a kid with a Game Genie locked on.

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>>389120684
Anybody got FLAC rips of the soundtrack yet? Everywhere I see a possible lead it's gone.

>>389122208
Man FUCK Oil Ocean Zone, lowest point of the game. It's like the game is cut clean in half with OOZ right in the middle to fuck with people.

>>389122360
This reminds me:
Has anyone watched Jaltoid's playthrough? The guy loses even using debug mode while playing as tails. Hilarious and infuriating at the same timw.

>>389121634
to be fair if the stars actually aligned and eggman got a 4 chain it would be believable

>>389122409
There isn't going to be one for a bit probably, the best you're getting are the OGGs ripped from the game:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1j2hqu6bv5gv6ks/Sonic%20Mania%20(2017-08-29)(Christian%20Whitehead)(Headcannon)(PagodaWest%20Games)(SEGA).7z?dl=0

There's also this MP3 one I found on ffshrine:
https://mega.nz/#!a4dFybyD!aUFh0hbB8tudNtXwuAqebQz31LruCjHuIFqCFuEKk0E

>>389122851
>Ogg Vorbis
Recorded via sound test or data mined?

Still waiting for denuvo crack so I can play offline. I'd just have bought it if it didn't have denuvo, what a shame

>>389122764
https://youtu.be/W7gDrjsKDFo

>>389122445
I enjoyed the level itself quite a lot desu, it's just that fucking boss. Was the platform thing intentional or is just a big glitch that they didn't fix?

>>389120684
Shhh OP, you'll upset the casuals who couldn't beat it and they'll get mad and say you just want to stroke your ego.

Sonic was never difficult, aside from Game Gear 2.

>>389120684
play it without tails you casual

>>389122954
Datamined.

>>389120930
>go back and play the old sonic games and you won't ever run out of lives, drown, or time over
But I only played Sonic 2 for the first time about two months ago and I got a game over in Oil Ocean.

>>389123094
The always online has been patched already.

>>389123232
That was bullshit, I still don't understand how the hang-glider works.

>>389123232
>The FoV on the ant lion

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>>389121001
>Some limp wristed faggot on Sonic Retro cried for several post about the Puyo Puyo boss being too fucking hard.

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>>389123330
I ran out of continues on the final boss in Sonic 2.

>>389120684
Did you ever consider that you're just too old for Sonic?

>>389123530
That boss gets a lot of people, I know someone who's been playing Sonic 2 for years & still hasn't beaten it. It amazes me so much.

>>389123578
This game was made for the very autistic adults who grew up with Sonic.

>>389123330

Why? Why do so many people have trouble with Oil Ocean of all zones? I don't get it

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>>389120684
I don't think it's really about the overall difficulty, OP. Have you considered?

it's about the replayability, the mastering of the game, the comfort it provides when playing... Whenever you're feeling relax'd you can crack open Mania again instead of going for that adventure game that you have to invest an hour or two in to really make any kind of progress in.

I'm like this with Metal Slug 3... or donkey kong country. Whenever i just wanna play a game I crack those open. Probably gonna do the same with Mania.

>>389121634
>wtf sudden gameplay changes are bullshit

So how does he feel about the bonus/special stages throughout the series?

>>389120684
its definitely way easier then any classic sonic game. its funny to because tons of normies were whining about how there shouldnt be a life system and that they should have as many tries as they want against bosses.

>>389123815
no you see you can't spin dash in the oil

>>389123839
Those are literally 100% optional

>>389123829
>instead of going for that adventure game that you have to invest an hour or two in to really make any kind of progress in.
Why are you implying i don't just chill out on stage select?

>>389123815
In my case it was because I died three times to areas with bugged collision that instant kills you if you land there even though nothing about it should, more than anything else in the zone being particularly difficult.
But that I didn't have a big stockpile of extra lives at that point in itself speaks to the difference in difficulty.

>>389124026
Got a screenshot of that bug? I'm interested in what to avoid on my 7th playthrough.

>>389122807
I think I saw it happen tonight, actually. Friend was playing and had never seen puyo before; he was doing okay and Eggman was killing himself, then suddenly Eggman just about cleared the board with a combo and won.

>>389123829
What a retarded comparison. Metal Slug 3 is a game that would take anyone a great deal of practice to be able to beat it.

>>389120684
i was actually shocked because i kept hearing about how hard it was but i found it pretty easy
i only game over'd once because of hydrocity zone. i got crushed near the end of act 1 three times, drowned twice (I was waiting in front of the air bubble generators but I drowned twice because it took over 5 seconds for them to generate air bubbles) and died twice against the first phase of the act 2 boss.
although i've refought it since then and won easily, so maybe i was just bad from inexperience

>>389124109
I wasn't taking any screenshots or videos at the time and it'd take me a while to get there again. Unless anyone knows if the Steam version lets you start off from each stage like 3&K does?

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>>389124146
Haha, yeah. It's my proudest vidya-accomplishment.

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WHERE'S
THE
FUCKING
TORRENT

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>>389124181
You're just bad.

>>389124203
After you beat the game you can select what zone you want to go to, also if you unlock Debug Mode and hold 2 specific buttons depending on the console you play it on it'll take you to a stage select menu like the originals do.

>>389124121
Yeah, I was playing really sloppily my first run through the game and got to this boss with 2 lives and Eggman was just crushing it for some reason and I game overed. Haven't seen it since, he's stupidly easy most of the time but it seems like he gets crazy random combos here and there.
People complaining about it probably shouldn't be playing video games anyway.

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>>389123829
It sucks with Mania because there's a couple parts that *almost* feel challenging, and it's exciting, and makes me want more really badly and to really get completely focused, heart racing, fingers flying carefully all over the controller, and sweating on the verge of getting past a really challenging part. But no, it's just a cock tease. Nothing ever comes of it. I had more fun fighting Sans in Undertale, or the Core in Cave Story.

>>389123961

Autism was his only option.

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For people that have been playing classic Sonic games for years, Mania is about as difficult as 3&K. Seeing so many people complaining about getting time overs and game overs and saying the game is too hard really is baffling to me. They must really not play much Sonic.

>>389122208
>die a handful of times to some of the earlier bosses
>get to oil ocean
>casually beat it without any trouble at all and actually enjoy the boss fight in act 2 a lot
I seriously don't understand how so many people have problems with it, including the leaker who game overed 12 times. It's a really easy boss and you can beat it in 30 seconds if you just bounce on the octopus

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>>389124332
I know what you mean my fair dudette. I also enjoy that beautiful fast-paced feeling. Mania would definitely benefit from a hard mode.

>tfw suck at platformers and sonic but still enjoy them and trying to get through Sonic Mania
>everyone in this thread is showing their million lives and shit while I'm struggling in each level after the first 3

Man I suck at video games.

>>389124497
Boy you suck at video games.

>>389124301
I'm willing to accept that, it actually feels pretty good to be bad at a sonic game after 20 years of walking all over the genesis games
Fuck those stupid air bubble generators though, why would they program them to release air bubbles on RNG instead of making them like Sonic 1 and releasing them every 3 seconds

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>>389124497
Don't worry about it, friend. Just 'cuz your not as skilled at video games doesn't mean you're no good as a person. In fact you'll be able to savor the taste of mania more than those who breezed right through it so make sure you do so!

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>>389123829
It's definitely a comfort game. Mania will end up being the kind of game I turn on if I have a couple minutes or even an hour to waste to fuck around in. I've already cleared the game with all the emeralds like 8 times now.

>>389124497
I wish I could be as bad as you anon and learn how to play all over again, it's not as satisfying when you've already mastered the mechanics before even playing Mania
Just take it easy and don't stress too much about it

>>389124497
It's alright, Anon, we're not all good at everything, just be glad you're having fun & not being a faggot who hates the game because you're not good at it like some will do.

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>>389124612
You're right. I wish I could go back and take some stupid pills before I played Mania for the first time.

>>389124497
You'll get Sonic soon enough, anon. It'll click.

>>389121090
One triple combo is enough to wipe him out
I'm fucking terrible at Puyo and even I can manage that

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>>389124692
Haha... Thinking about it now everyone IS replaying it a lot. Your skill level probably doesn't matter if you're doing that.

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Titanic Monarch was a really nice challange. It's like my favorite zone in the game now.

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>>389124497
just stick with it anon

At least the bosses in this game aren't on the level of just bounce on him 8 times in a row without ever touching the ground

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>>389120684

>>389124919
What is this .webm trying to convey?

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>>389124919
Not very convincing because it looks like he's invincible to spikes for no reason. You should make one of the third segment of the boss fight with Metal Sonic where you can just beat him while sticking to the spikes at the back during your damage invincibility frames and infinitely recollecting your rings.

>>389124919
If you've got all the emeralds by then you've earned the cheese

>>389124919
Oh man, you went super and didn't move. Wow.

>>389125073
Now that was a bit stupid. It's impossible to lose, but I bet they made it that way because play testers got super annoyed and didn't know you actually had to continue running right far from the spike wall.

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>>389124303
Alright, pic related is the only one I specifically remembered, but I can't get it to happen again now. Half the time it launches me flying into the air and half the time I take a hit from the spikes. Either way it's not instant killing me like before, so I don't have any real proof.

>>389125149
The stupid part was making the rings too easy to recollect and thus becoming too reliant on the ring system. In all other Sonic games there was a chance that a fallen ring wouldn't be collidable or fall through the floor so you wouldn't get too comfy about losing them.

I finished the game in 3 hours and i was jusr buzzing the S key on my keyboard.

I barely play any Sonic...

How fucking dumb you have to be to suck at this game? You just have to rush and never run out of rings.

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>>389125257
If you want a bug where you just die for now reason, look no further.

>>389125261
That's what I mean, they probably didn't collide with the spike wall beforehand so you lost all your rings if you got hit once.

>>389125257
You chose a horrible color for that arrow. It didn't stand out at all and I had no idea what you were talking about. But yes, fuck that little area. It's because it's concave. Collision systems only work well on convex shapes. This applies to every game. Notice how there are virtually no convex areas to walk in. They're where most collision-related bugs happen, like leaving the Chao Garden in Sonic Adventure.

>>389124875
You're right, they're far worse.

>>389125261
>tfw I died during that segment on my first playthrough because I didn't realize how exploitable the wall is
I'm so dumb

>>389125261
That's the one thing I miss about Sonic Advance.

These games were hard but so much fun once you were past the trial and error part.

>>389125325
youre smaller when you curl up into a ball and you go in the gap and when you stand youre taller and therefore get crushed. not that hard to figure out

>>389125325
>Super sonic


Oh what? Please I don't want this shit in my game.
How do I avoid it? Simply not collect emeralds?

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>>389125325
I had the opposite issue here on both my Sonic replaythrough & my first Knuckles playthrough. I got through the hole as their Super forms without getting crushed but the boss didn't trigger so I was trapped (I got out with Sonic at least).

>>389125325
I do have to agree that crushing deaths in Mania were fucked, and being able to die from walking between two areas that either aren't moving at all or were only moving horizontally is retarded as shit.

>>389125447
Yes. Don't get the emeralds and you don't get Super Sonic. Sonic 101.

>>389125447
That's a way to avoid him but I don't see the issue. Also they bound the Super form to a specific button in the PC version (and that will be patched to the console versions soon enough they said) so you can just avoid using him altogether even after getting the Emeralds.

>>389124919
It's missing the part in which he consumes all the rings before beating him and ge's consequentially wrecked.

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>>389125497
>The "drowning" part of Chemical Plant Zone is now the "unexpected crushing" part

>>389121001
Fuck you i got fucked by this boss. robotnik somehow got a 4 combo off and just trashed my whole board with rocks and I couldn't do anything. It was definitely a fluke though because every other time I have played it robotnik basically kills himself for free

>>389121085
This, I really hate this stupid mentality because nine times out of then it's actually the exact opposite.

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>>389125447
Yeah this game hates Super form

>>389125380
That spike wall is actually too exploitable. It seriously feels like they need to patch it.

>>389125540
It's broken, ruins the fun and removes the level's track for some ugly rythem shit.

>>389120684
>he didn't beat the game first try in 45 minutes without taking damage using only one hand and blindfolded

wow you're truly shit at videogames

>>389125618
Why won't they just let you cancel super form?

>>389125447
If you have the PC version, and you have more than 50 rings, don't press Y in the air, that's it.

>>389125618
>Not including a separate button to transform or the ability to revert out of Super form when the romhacking community has had that on lockdown for years.

why.jpg

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>>389125640
That this was the last life and he gets a game over from it is the best part.

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>>389125630
I do hate the music thing, I wish they had it like Sonic 3 Complete by giving you a music option. Hopefully they'll patch that and this >>389125682 in the future.

>>389125618
That's fucking retarded.

>>389125618
>super sonic an idea that was tacked on near the end of development and not thoroughly tested
So just like classic Sonic?

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>>389125783
the plane controls are shit

>>389125640
perfect

>>389125783
So was getting the color palette glitch just a bonus in this webm or are you unaware of it? I wish I could get it on the PC version, I like the morning colors more for the stage.

99% of my deaths in this game have been being crushed by shit that should now have crushed me

>>389125875
Yeah I actually turn off Sonic 2 once it gets to the stupid fucking flying part. Why did they put that stupid shit in Mania?

>>389125640
Wow, I had the exact same death. I seem to recall boxes not breaking while I'm moving happening sometimes.

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>>389125783
you'd think they'd have fix'd that part. It can't be THAT difficult to make sure Sonic NEVER falls off the plane.

>>389125903
unaware until you just mentioned it.

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>>389125783
>tfw got crushed when that cannon was closing

>>389125936
Probably part of SEGAs mandate to reuse old levels

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>People say that the insta-shield is better than the drop dash
>tfw you're so used to having it in Mania that going back to 3&K without it has immediately spoiled you
It's immensely satisfying being able to regain speed after jumping that not having it just feels wrong.

>>389126056
Same here. I actually like the drop dash more then the insta-shield now. It's fucked.

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>>389126012
Yeah, it's meant to look like this a little bit before it starts showing off the train. I think they fixed it in the PC version but I heard it was completely random in the console versions so maybe I'm just getting unlucky & not getting it.

The ring mechanic in sonic has always made it extremely forgiving compared to other platformers.
This has ALWAYS been the case. Sonic needs this mechanic because the breakneck pace of running into unforseen shit would be too brutal otherwise.
As long as you can grab a ring, stay out of water too long, and not get crushed, you are fine

>>389126056
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1119669907

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>>389126147
I wonder if they fixed this bug in the PC version

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https://youtu.be/TftUoKFNKcg
>it's real

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>>389126263
they've got a lot of bugs to fix.

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>>389126263

>>389126263
Did they ever TEST their fucking game?

>>389126263
At this point it almost feels like the lack of the spike bug is an even bigger bug and they should add it in. It wouldn't be Sonic 1 Green Hill Zone without it.

>>389126263
They did, I tried doing it already. Knuckles also can't climb up to Sonic's Act.1 in the beginning either, they blocked it off with a ceiling.

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>>389120684
>3 deaths on a boss
How bad do you have to be?

>>389126263
So is the bug just some invisible floors?

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>>389126312
It's suppose to be a bottomless pit, but if you stick to the right side, you can go down to knuckle's GHZ and get an extra special stage.

>>389126347
Back in the day some people argued whether it was really a bug at all since so many traps are built around it.

>>389126365
notice the background

>>389126347
>>389126385
It was never intended. It was fixed in a later revision of the original genesis game. to have it back would be lame.

>>389126362
Bad enough to be playing Oil Ocean

>>389126303
Honestly surprised it's not Arin's voice.

>>389126446
Pretty sure Japanese Revision 2 still has the bug, Sonic Jam was the one to fix it. But I'm too lazy to check.

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I found this on SonicRetro just now, we got a level map of Hydrocity Zone Act.1, I know quite a few Anons were asking for these.
Full res: https://abload.de/img/scene1_fgq0s9u.png

>>389126446
>>389126528
Oh shit, scratch that, you're right. They did fixed it in Japanese Revision 2.
http://sonicology.hacking-cult.org/games/sonic1md/japversion.htm

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>>389121634
>Just wanted to make dumb ROM hacks
>kicked me out from using the forum completely despite (assumedly) obeying the rules

Maybe SSRG is better

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give me one reason why I shouldn't be using the crt-sharp filter

>>389120684
I don't think it's too easy, but it's certainly not as punishing as the classics with their limited continues. I ran out of lives once. Metallic Madness saw me get crushed by moving blocks one too many times. I think I died at the Oil Ocean boss four or five times. It's true that they pussed out on the drowning, though.

Anyway, the fact is that they were probably smart for making it easier. I've heard a number of people complaining that the game's too hard, even. With Sanic already being in a weird spot critically, I think they struck a good balance of making the game beginner friendly without it being a boring cakewalk.

>>389126003
>>389125640

There's a rock behind the item box.

>>389126702
wait why did they kick you out?

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>>389126585
woohoo! i was RIGHT! hehehe

>>389126702

Did you waste your trial post shit posting?

>>389126727
Besides everyone knows the real challenge lies in time attacking.

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>>389126703
It doesn't fix the waterfalls.

>>389126702
>kicked me out from using the forum completely despite (assumedly) obeying the rules
I don't believe you.

>>389123829

This.

I like Sonic Mania, even though I only died about five times on my first playthrough. Its less about the challenge and more about finding ways to tear through the levels as fast as possible.

This is probably also me becoming jaded and far more experienced in platformers after bullshit like IWBTG or Sonic Time Twisted. I remember when I was a wee lad on my genesis and could barely get past Hill Top or Mystic Cave zone.

>people having trouble on the Puyo Puyo boss

How in the remote fuck. I can literally beat this boss by just constantly just getting simple 1-chain four block "combos". Robonick is so brain dead during it that he'll kill himself eventually.

I'll echo what Razor and Zenon said, in how the hell anyone can get a game over in this game unless they actually try to get it or are literally brand new at platformers.

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>>389126754
I actually don't fucking know, afaik I never got a warning or anything. One moment I can post and the next I can't.
>>389126782
No. I might have been a bit dense when it came to actually ROM hacking.
>>389126827
I wouldn't make shit up when the site already has a bad reputation. Before I got kicked I was actually pretty forgiving about the site too.

>>389126819
but the middle pic looks like a blurry piece of shit
the crt-sharp filter is actually fucking gorgeous and preserves the crispness just right
https://imgur.com/gallery/baSMQ

>>389125783
>>389125618
Jesus Christ. Super Sonic was clearly an afterthought in this game.

>>389126971
I'm just fucking around, Anon, I'm making fun of the early Mania threads long before it was released. Someone was bitching about the waterfalls & shit for a bit.

>>389125783
This shit happens with dropdashing too.

>>389127036
You can actually get enough speed as normal sonic to fly off the plane.

>>389127089
That's realistic. It's a feature not a bug.

>>389126938
Ain't that forum basically dead anyway. None of the old timers are still around.

>>389126938

What's your username

>>389127089
Yeah, this happened to me. Low point of the game.

>>389127178
I don't think so.
I just wanted to make some fun ROM Hacks, and wanted to make something for the hacking contest, and while the wiki still works there's still a lot of stuff I need to ask about.
>>389127280
ALittleTooFast

>>389127036

The same thing happens in Sonic 2 actually. If you're in super mode while on the plane you can out speed it and die.

>>389127310
I remember the forum being much faster back in the day, feels like the community dwindled down a lot.

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>Being comfy in Press Garden 2
>Music bugs out

>>389127310
It's just a banned username, try renewing your ip and registering again an alternate account. Everyone does it, they will never find out.

>>389125875
>shit
>Move up, move down, move left, move right, jump
>shit

Are you fucking 13?

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>>389125783
Reminds me of this glitch I got when the midboss was supposed to show up.
Sonic just kept double jumping on his own and the midboss failed to trigger.
I couldn't even pause the game and reset because it thought it was in a cutscene.
Had to wait seven minutes for a timeout.

>>389127310

You got 4 trial post left. What do you mean they "kicked" you out? There's nothing in your account that reflects that.

Crack when?

>>389127569
>Even Sonic Retro can look at the "too fast" meme and say "thats too autistic we don't want to associate ourselves with that"

Wow, I just beat the chaos emerald boss.

What a crock of shit; I died three times trying to figure out how I was supposed to use the ring-consuming attack and the flight to win, then I just tried running back and forth along the ground and jumping and won with 40 rings left. What a letdown.

>>389127768
I had to beat it on the ground too, I have no idea how they intend for you to fly while playing it when the area is so small. I still don't understand what the fucking Heavy even does, because waiting for him to have an opening never seems to happen.

>>389127842
He shoots the balls around him that damage you. His actual opening is really small where all the balls are gone. But you can still hit him pretty consistently after he has shot out only one ball.

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>>389127114
this reminds me of a design choice is metal slug.

the devs went for multi-colored flashing enemy bullets rather than realistic bullets because it helped players keep track of what to dodge. The decision to sacrifice realism for gameplay is what helped the game be more enjoyable

>>389127520
Press Garden Act 2 seems to have the most bugged music for some reason. It's weird.

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>>389127569
>hurr durr you used words we don't like so your're banned!
That's pretty stupid.
>>389127595
Here's a screenshot.
>>389127756
It wasn't even really meant to be a gotta go fast meme, it was supposed to reference this to a degree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCmMbohXn6o

>>389127592
game is chock full of glitches, friend and i played for a couple hours only and managed to get knuckles to clip through walls and stuff.

>>389127768
I found it easier to just stay on the ground and never fly and never ever use the 5 ring wasting dash.

>>389127941
There's so much shit going on and the rings deplete so I don't have time to watch for anything, I just fucking jump and then go collect rings when I eventually do hit him.

>>389121562
Not him but the problem with that level isn't the ghosts it's the obnoxious level design.

>>389128025

Anon. You're not logged in.

>>389128070
The knuckles clip is a hilarious way to destroy the online time trial leader boards.

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>>389120684
Difficult gameplay is not a requirement for games to be good.

>>389128025
YOU'RE NOT LOGGED IN THAT'S ALL. WOW.

>>389121001
It's because Sonic Mania is about on-par with the old Sonic games in difficulty. They aren't exactly HARD games compared to contemporaries at the time, and a lot of the series promotes very aggressive "take hits thanks to rings and slam the bosses" play, but they'll fuck you up if you don't take the time to actually learn from your mistakes.

The Mean Bean boss is pathetically easy, but i've legitimately seen players get screwed by Eggman somehow miraculously pulling off a 4-chain on them. And the post-fight is glitchy too, getting locked in the chamber or even instantly dying as if the game mistook who was supposed to die.

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>>389128165
>>389128239
>try to login in
>won't let me because of the error
What's worse is that I actually can't figure out what the error actually means because I CAN'T ENTER THE FORUM.

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>>389123232
Fuck this boss in particular

>>389120684
Sonic Games were always easy
Now where's my crack

>>389128025
>>389128380
It looks like your IP was banned.
Don't know why they would do that.

>>389128464
I honest to god don't know what I could have done to warrant getting my IP banned but whatever, I'll just renew it and make alt account.

>>389121634
>Faggot modernfag with Archie Tails in his avatar

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>>389127114
>wanting realism
>in a game where technicolor anthropomorphic animals fight robots

>>389128464
>>389128380

Maybe it was a range ban. His account isn't touched from what I can see.

I PMed an Admin.

>>389126819
>Sonic 3

>>389128580
What a good picture.

>>389128464
Finger slipped

>>389128648
I really hoped that's what it was. Because you'd think my account would be gone completely if it was just me.

>>389127952
Post Fio

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>>389129009
Not that guy, but good tastes deserve a reward

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>>389129009

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>>389128380

Check back in a day or two. Or visit Mania threads and type PINGAS somewhere in your post. I'll Ctrl+F and update you if I have any news.

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>>389129235
Alright then, thanks.
Ill try and post my user icon too just in case.
Means a lot to me man.

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>>389129118
I know that that artist drew Fio and Eri flat but Eri's bust size is canonically smaller than Fio's. Or rather, Fio's is bigger than Eri's. Fio still manages to be pretty cute though.

Speaking of Metal Slug I've been thinking of making a Metal Slug fansite, to replace the awful Wikia and have an actual forum, a GOOD wiki, and basically a database for all things Metal Slug. I've been talking about this on /vr/ a bit too. Who knows, maybe it could help bring some Metal Slug fanatics together to make a mania-esque Metal Slug game. you never know.

>>389125618
the fuck? you can get out of that room in super form. I did it on PS4 after getting stuck for that exact reason. I don't even remember how but there is a way out

>>389124919
Are you having problems getting the game recorded on PC properly too? No matter what settings I use OBS just doesn't seem able to keep up with the game as it scrolls.

>>389129616
https://twitter.com/CFWhitehead/status/902603781623373824

>>389129121
>Fio gets less drawings
JUST

Still would love to fuck the shit out of those tits though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZfBlA8B5Pk
saturn port of sonic mania when?

>>389129489
Bigger tits >>>> small ones
Fio is far hotter than Eri

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>>389129751
Lewd is rude. Fio's for Marco.

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>>389125618
So you got me curious to see if there was a way out of that in that situation but it made me realize they actually patched it in the PC version so there level design doesn't fuck you over if you're Super. Here's a screenshot, I didn't interfere with any ice blocks on the right.

>>389129782
>Sega Saturn
>still uses a new tv not a crt
What's the point?

>>389129887
They should've just made it so that Super Sonic can use shield abilities, and invincibility Sonic. Makes no sense how they could patch in a dedicated Super button, but not just let them use shields abilities.

>>389129715
That looks more like a windowed/fullscreen issue though which isn't what I have. For some reason the recording hitches in spots so for a split-second everything stops moving, and also when I'm going really fast in the game it starts to heavily mosaic.

>>389129919
>rgb scart to hdmi
>looks good but not crt
not everyone can fit a huge ass crt in their house anon.

>>389129820
But I'll fuck them gently with love

>>389130195
You don't need a huge ass crt(in fact at that size sharpness is shit). Just use a 20 inch trinitron.

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>>389121001
HOW MANY ZONES ARE THERE

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>>389129715
Thanks for that link, now I can easily make webms for these threads. Enjoy this shitty quality one of Hidden Palace Zone's unused areas.

>>389130935
12+a zone made for the secret final boss like Doomsday Zone in S3&K for example.

>>389131057
that's a lot of zones.

;_;

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BRRROOOOOOWWWWWWRRRRR

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>>389131236

>>389126485
>Stupid faggot that constantly spews contrarian shit outta his mouth and long-time Sonic basher
>Getting in the game over somebody who can actually convey his thoughts in intelligent writing
Dunky might be a shitty e-celeb with no reason to have an easter egg voice clip seriously they couldn't get Sonic's actual VA to toss in a "gotta go fast" in that shit? but Arin's got even less reason to be included.

>>389131141
Why the tears?

>>389131236
>Hi, I'm the worst plot device a Sonic game's ever had.

>>389131316
He was probably expecting like 6 or something.

>>389126702
Sonic Retro's got the best game information pages bar none due to the power of autism combined with community reach.

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Hey guys, what's going on in this thread

>>389131316
Cause I used to have Sonic and Knuckles, but I lost it or something, and I sold my Sega Genesis, so if I had played my cards right I would have a copy of Sonic 3 and Knuckles. I remember I used to plug earthworm jim into my copy of Sonic and Knuckles, I had no clue what the attachment was for.

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Oh wow, a new Sonic game. I love these.

>>389131459
I don't understand how that's related to your upset-nature towards the amount of zones in Sonic Mania.

>>389131330
That's not Elise. As far as anyone's aware.

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>>389131236

>>389120684
>This game is too easy.
Sonic was always easy

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>>389131557
I just wanna beat the game! So I can commission art of super-konata with all the emeralds and brag on 4chan! Is that too much to want out of life?

>>389131236
I wanna smash that ruby

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>>389131668
Use an emulator?

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Oh wow, a new Bubsy game. I love these.

>>389126703
Looks like shit when you're recording it

>>389131603
Elise is a close second.

>>389131057
Unused shit in videogames is always so spooky.

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>>389131236
>>389131538
>>389131616
>>389131669
>>389131729
What is happening?

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>>389131728
Only if you don't mind the Emulator Curse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnUpr2G5GXE

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>>389131698
>not fucking it

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>>389131729
>>389131669
>>389131616
>>389131538
>>389131236
oh my goooooooooooooooooooo

>>389131917
It's a secret to everybody!

>>389131860
The Phantom Ruby is destroying /v/! Help us Micheal!

>>389126005
It was designed to be like the original sky chase level and that exact same thing can happen.

>>389131862
uhhhh ummm

it'll probably be okay.

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>>389131954

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nESWkEbnLM

>>389121001
Don't take Sonic Retro seriously. Anyone with talent left a long time or are now at Sega. They just exist as a bunch of arm chair designers.

The only legitimate Puyo boss complaint I've seen go to the ones with color blind problems, but the boss is still super trivial.

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>>389132035
Yeah, and I have a copy of Sonic 3 and Knuckles to play on my Sega Genesis.

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>>389132098
oh????!

IF YOU WANT SUPER KONATA DRAWN THEN HURRY IT UP.

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>>389132169
>Implying I don't enjoy sitting at the Main Menu looking through the options and stuff after a heart-wrenching game over

This game > Sonic 3 and Knuckles imo, it's like, I bought the game, and the curse is lifted!

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>>389132238
That's wonderful anon, I'm happy for you.

>>389132238
Ohhhhh so the game was meant to be played with the joycon remotes attached to that weird handheld device that makes it like a controller. I haven't tried that yet. It shows in the controls menu.

>>389123815

I just finished the zone and honestly it wasn't fun to play compared to the others.

>Red Smog comes every 20 seconds and obscures the screen constantly
>Enemies mix into the foreground too much, so even if you take it slow you might miss one
>The green jump pads were death traps, fire below them, spikes either side and if you were unlucky enough to be recovering from the side spikes while the pad was in the air it was an instant death when it fell on you even with rings
>Hard to gauge the distance of your character in the oil so you could kill yourself by not being quick enough
>1st zone boss had a cheap death that would get you the first time you fight him if you're unlucky
>2nd zone boss was difficult to grasp since he would destroy the platforms you were on and then appear making you unsure of how to beat him

I found the bosses to be really easy by comparison though, the first was just avoiding axes and the second was just avoiding the platforms falling.

Egg Reverie might have been a clusterfuck of a boss fight but the theme is so fucking awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v6-cwzdaWE

>>389132390
I've played through it a couple times now and I'm getting better at it. I don't even fly I just try to jump at the bosses while running on the ground.
I got the Knuckles & Knuckles ending and it's my personal true ending.

If the cra
>>389131236
You thought it was an original plot.
[spoilers]BUT IT WAS ME, DIO[/spoilers]

>>389132390
These artists now-a-days are getting too good, would be so hard to remix that!

>>389132331
They were talking about the Sonic 2 version, dummy. You're right though, Mania's version also sucks.

>>389132390
Metallic Madness zone is my favorite as far as OST goes. I luv dis gayme.

>>389132331
I found oil ocean zone easy peasy but that might be just because I have experience with Sonic games.

>>389126319
They did, but that shit is tough to do. Corner cases will get missed.

Sega's done worse, and the PC version fixes most of the common bugs from consoles.

>>389131954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q7IA_J_58g

>>389120684

If you beat sonic and tails campaign

Knuckles campaign

Got all the emeralds in both

Got all the special stage tokens

Within 4 hours

You are amazing LIAR

>>389132519

Oh whoops, was randomly scrolling and thought it was all just Mania talk.

>>389132563

Everyone has the zone that works for them, I found Hydrocity Zone level and boss really easy, whereas for others it was their most hated level.

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does the PC version still have the best bug AKA super sonic god super sonic?

>>389132730
Hydrocity was my favorite Sonic 3 zone so I love replaying the Mania version. I wanna optimize my Act 1 route though cause I know there's another route you can go where you don't need to do the bubble gauntlet near the end of the act.

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>>389131236
I like the Phantom Ruby honestly, I think it had a lot more potential to fuck things up though, too bad it's mostly just a reason to visit old zones & tie into Forces.

>>389132765
How do you do it? I'll try it right now & check.

>>389132468
Because of that damn dash attack that eats up your rings flying is kind of a handicap during the fight.

>>389132986
Yeah that dash is fucking useless.

>>389126703
So what filter did you anons use? I used clean because I prefer clean and sharp pixels over any other kind of filter, plus the CRT ones strained my eyes after a while.

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>>389132880
without debug:
hold UP or DOWN until the screen scrolls, the immediately jump and become super. sonic should have the super sprites, but not the invincibility and color palette

with debug:
spawn a super monitor or go super normally, then enter debug halfway through the transformation just before the music starts

without debug, alt:
get hit by an enemy just before the super sonic music starts playing. might fuck up stage collision

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>>389132730
>Everyone has the zone that works for them, I found Hydrocity Zone level and boss really easy, whereas for others it was their most hated level.

I see. I suppose that is the case. It's funny thinking about how much the Sonic games have engraved certain bits of gameplay into me when I played 'em as a kid. Not panicking during the water bit in chemical plant zone, the rhythm of the popping green tops in oil ocean, keeping the time in mind for the light switches in sandopolis zone, which I believe varied from switch to switch... Sonic sure is great.

>>389132880
look at the bright side. maybe we'll get to see what the ruby actually is in forces. chances are it's not infintie itself, but controlling infinite. It did do something similar to the heavy king after all

>>389133276
I'm wondering if the true ending of Mania lead into Forces while the "bad" ending lead into another Mania-style game.

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>The Sonic Advance reference in Studiopolis Act 2

Neato. i didn't think anyone on the Mania team cared about Sonic Advance

>>389133326
>it even makes the exact same sound
I wasn't expecting any Advance reference moreso because it just isn't in the timeframe they were taking inspiration from, but that was still pretty neat for such a little thing.

>>389133123
I always loved this artwork. But then I noticed the chain in Eggman's left had looks like a penis.
Not sure if it makes the picture better or just ruins the daunting epic feeling the rest of the image has

>>389128389
Game wasn't even hard on Master System, it's just the game gear's resolution being terrible and cutting off the outer edges of the screen

>>389133319
my best guess would be that the secret ending is the definitive one because:
>sonic vanishes, presumably to be shoehorned into forces
>stuff happens
>at the end of it all classic sonic goes back to his universe
>either comes back after 5 seconds of being gone, maybe a few hours (duration of forces), or some days/months depending on whether or not the ruby's warping can distort time
>first two scenarios give eggman no time to pick up his junk and try a new scheme
>third scenario allows him to conquer the world while classic sonic is gone
>Sonic: Maniac Forces
>by dimps

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>>389133408

>>389133670
Fuck me, meant for >>389133545

>>389120812
but did you have fun?

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>>389131698
same

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>>389133118
It doesn't seem to work at all. The camera method he goes normal Super Sonic, the debug mode method doesn't work since you can't interrupt the transforming into Super Sonic animation now and the enemies don't effect Sonic now.

>>389133791
Aqours was a mistake.

>>389123138
When
Video too long and boring

I think Mania handled its silent tutorials and introduction of new stage/boss-specific mechanics pretty well. Some cases they just let the player figure things out for themselves and other times they nicely did that old school mentality of "show don't tell" with new hazards, gimmicks, etc.

>>389125618
I managed to get out somehow as super there

>>389134173
My favorites were the first goo injectors in CPZ2 and the ice block maker in PGZ2.

>>389133818
>those sprites
Stop this

>>389128389
> AotStH reference
> 2GG reference

Do-do I need to read the comic?

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>>389133319
Why would the True End lead to Forces? It has no connection to it at all.

>>389134025
god bless the fact that bland old μ's ended

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>>389134336
After the comic started to get mainly written by Ian Flynn the quality skyrocketed. You can start reading it from issue 252 cause it was completely rebooted thanks to the Ken Penders shit.

>>389134357
>Sonic Mania didn't actually happen canonically and was just a story that Knuckles was reading to animals
I can totally get behind this.

>>389121634
>almost 10000 posts after almost 10 years on a forum.

Christ I'm glad 4chan doesn't track this shit, I'd have topped myself by now

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>>389134537
>cause it was completely rebooted thanks to the Ken Penders shit.
Someone please post the Knuckles fan comic that ends with "THANK YOU KEN PENDERS".

>>389134336
>explicit PRRRROMOTIONS Reference

>>389120684
>This game is too easy.
git bad, faggot

>>389120684

>prove me wrong

Na retard. Have you ever thought the game might not be so difficult because you're an ADULT? Replaying Sonic 2 or 3 as an adult is fucking easy.

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Why is Amy so cute bros?

>>389120917
What is Sonic Heroes?

>>389128464
Retro mod here: Spoilers, that's probably exactly what it was, him falling into a banned IP range. His account's fine.

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>>389134851
This one?

>>389120684
Good, it should be fun. My life is difficult enough without some more bullshit (and this game does have bugs, especially when you go Super).

I think problem with difficulty comes from the fact that it was very, very long ago when we got any proper classic game (or 2D for that matter) which was relevant enough to attract lots of people. Mania got alot of attention, so many new players come to play it, and they fail, since Sonic, while not extremely difficult, is certainly not an easy game.
On other end of spectrum we have veterans who remember big ring/starpost locations in each game and have completed all good sonic hacks and many not so. For those players, Mania won't bring any challenge at all, because it wasn't made with vets in mind (from gameplay point of view).
And in-between we have nothing at all, because only players who could get into Sonic AFTER classic games are those who played 3D games, and they are basically as new to classics as those who never touched Sonic at all. You could say there are Advance and Rush series, but they play and handle alot different from classics, and generally they are known only among hardcore fans who probably played and mastered genesis games as well.

tl;dr
Only people playing Sonic Mania are noobs who never played Sonic before and maniacs who can draw a stage layout for any game should you wake them up deep at night.

>get the invincibility in lava reef 2
>have to get back through a conveyor
>mess it up and the conveyor drops a small rock on my head
>instant squish death

Man I fucking hate this.

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>>389135330
>Sonic seeing all that up-skirt
Nice.

>>389120684
I don't know about you, but the Oil Ocean Zone boss is kicking my shit in.

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>>389135594
That's the one, thanks.

>>389121001
>Puyo Puyo
Really? I'm shit at puzzle games, and got super worried , but he doesn't even put up an effort. I honestly wish you could turn up the difficulty a bit.

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>>389136224

>>389136224
if you game over then try your best to get a fire shield
a fire shield reflects the little energy orbs the tentacles fire at you when the octopus is out of the oil, so you can bounce on it like no tomorrow
otherwise just play safe, hold down when it's attacking with lasers/spiny thing and only the platform targetting laser can hurt you
as soon as the tentacles wrap around the platforms start bouncing on one of the tentacle "orbs" (preferably in a way that will angle you to fall in between them where the octopus will be instead of back to the platform since there seems to be an instant kill bug if you're on the platform at the wrong time)

>>389133408
>I wasn't expecting any Advance reference moreso because it just isn't in the timeframe they were taking inspiration from
It sure got the mass amount of sprite rotation usage from the Advance games that's for sure

>>389134357
>Sonic Mania
>& Knuckles
This is my favorite reddit meme

>>389136474
Yeah, the rotation was a bit jarring.

>>389136396
You know I never did keep the fire shield long enough to actually try that

>>389127089
>>389127114
In Sonic 2 you could also fall off the plane if you used a spindash. I remember reading that a later version fixed this, but I'm not sure which one.