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Can someone explain to me how this game is genre defining? I fail to see what it does new to the open world genre
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Allows interactivity with the world in a manner that's as universal as the openness of the world itself.
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Did you play it?
You have to play it to understand. It offers freedom unlike any other open world.
It's a meme, but in BOTW, you can literally go anywhere you see.
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>>389107963
It's the first open world Zelda game on par with open world games from 2006 onwards. That's it
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>>389108195
Meaningless Word vomit
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nothing. toddlers thought they could lie about it being GOAT but once it came to pc everyone saw it for what it is. garbage
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>>389108206
So? I can do that in Gravity Rush 2 as well.
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>>389108447
This.
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>>389108620
You can't do the missions in any order in gr2
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>>389108601
Maybe you need to toss a few more thousand at that closed source emulator you use
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>>389107963
Emphasis on environmental interaction and organic exploration. The problem is that you can't really stuff the game with crap like a Bethesda game. Which is why BotW has considerably less enemy variety.
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The interactivity with the world, such as chopping down trees, collecting food items from the environment, and dealing with weather hazards. The climbing mechanic allows you to climb literally almost everything in the game. You can actually see a mountain and then go climb it, actually climb it, not press yourself against it while looking for a point with a low enough inclination for you to ascend.
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>>389107963
Just got a switch yesterday and I'm really enjoying it. It gets really slow at parts, but it's still really good.
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>>389109208
todd howard triggered
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>>389108704
Why would you want to?
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>go into a game wanting to hate it
>hate it

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>389109372
Just cuz
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>>389108491
Poor grasp of complex sentences
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>>389107963
The game paves new ground in terms of absolute freedom. The very minute the player gets off the plateau, they are quite literally allowed to go anywhere they want if they are determined enough to get there. Now plenty of open world games have done this before, but BotW also has several layers of robust interactivity within the world itself; if you have an idea on how to approach a puzzle, or traversal, or combat, or anything, and you apply enough creative thought, it will probably work. That's pretty spectacular for any game.
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>beautiful piano ost
>great visuals
>unparalleled exploration
>truly captures the feeling of being on a journey
it's very comfy. it has thicc boys, too.
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Literally nothing.

It was so incredibly overrated /v/ stopped all discussion about it after a month.
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>>389109925
Anon, link isn't exactly the image that most people get when you describe a boi as thicc
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>>389110023
>>389110023
>It was so incredibly overrated /v/ stopped all discussion about it after a month.
and yet this thread was made 6 months later?
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It's overrated.
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>>389110106
Tiny waist, literal breeding hips, thick thighs, and a plump ass.
He is literally the definition of thicc, anon.
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>>389110135
It's criticizing the game for being overrated not sucking its dick
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>>389107963
I spent a good 3 hours today trying to figure out CEMU so I could play this shit.
>outdated guides that no longer work
>youtube tutorials with people typing text into notepad
>finding shader compilations
>expired links

Finally got everything working but then it crashes at the start and is running at 19 fps so who gives a shit.
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>>389108704
Wow, look at those goal posts move!
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>>389109925
>>389108206
post more of qt link
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>>389110612
If /v/ stopped discussing it 5 months ago because it sucks, why do shitposters still feel the needing to criticise the game crying about how overrated it is?
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>>389110672
It's super easy. All you need to decrypt the update using a tool such as CDecrypt 1.0b (it's elusive but out there, PM me if you need a link) And there's really only like 4 good graphics packs. The megathread on reddit warns against applying the latest update (v1.20) if you play on CEMU 1.7.5 as it breaks stuff. I personally haven't tried so can't confirm, but be warned.
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>>389107963
>Genre Defining

Its not. Its just a good open world game. Thats it. Nintendo faggots and Zelda faggots just blow it out of proportion because its a zelda game.

Zelda's voice acting was horrible by the way. Constant distraction for me.
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>>389107963
I feel so many people are claiming this because it's literally the first open world game Nintendo fans have ever played.
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>>389110810
ok
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>>389110792
Thats not what goal posts mea
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>>389111037
I WANT TO ____ LINK
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>>389107963
It's actually "open world". There's no RPG system keeping you out of areas. No areas are locked off to the story. The player has access to every item in the game right after the tutorial if they know where to look. It was a very brilliant way to design an open world game but that's basically it. Everything else is parlor tricks. "Fire OMG you can light stuff on fire HOLY SHIT UPDRAFT" it's a gimmick you do it once you've seen all the depth it has to offer. If you condensed an exhaustive reel of all of the shit like that in the game into a video it would be about 15 seconds long.
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>>389111257
>Why is thing?
>Because reason!
>But other thing have reason too?
>BUT UNRELATED REASON THAT ISN'T CONNECTED TO WHAT I ORIGINALLY SAID!

????
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>>389107963
It somehow got people to shill a weapon durability system.
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>>389111562
That not how the conversation went
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>>389110023
>/v/ stopped all discussion about it after a month.
Where have you been? There are anti shill threads posted by ass blasted S0nyggers on a daily basis, 6 moths after release.
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>>389111356
Link is for impregnating
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>>389110932
>it's super easy, just go on reddit!
You should go back and never return
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>>389110976
>Zelda's voice acting was horrible by the way. Constant distraction for me.
You have voice acting fags to thank for that. For almost a decade there was a constant onslaught of reddit tier complaints about how "there's no excuse not to have voice acting at this day and age." Nintendo thankfully held out for awhile, but eventually buckled, and now here we are.
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I like how my map isn't littered with icons before I've explored an area - it actually feels like I'm going on an adventure through uncharted territory, rather than just dashing to a waypoint.
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>>389112386
I want to be link.
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>>389107963
Nintendo players never played any open world games outside of Nintendo consoles.
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>>389107963
You.can.climb.everything

That's basically it. That's the magic recipe of this game.

Name one single game before this where you could climb everything.
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>>389116750
I never failed to be reminded how retarded and ignorant youngfags are.
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>>389116750
retard
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>>389116750

Ass Creed
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>>389107963
It's a legit 10/10 for the first 20 hours until quickly dropping into an 8/10 for the rest of the game, at least for me. Overall I'd give it a 9/10 because of moments that go back to a 10/10 like Eventide and Hyrule Castle.
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>>389118139
The game was zelda for the first ten mins, but then it disappears as quickly as the old man.
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3 divine beasts, 86 shrines, 63 Korok seeds, and the Master Sword finished/acquired. I'm aiming for 100%. I have a feeling I'l have the entire map memorized by the time I'm done.

If I was asked to give the game a review that would be it.
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>>389110830
It's fun
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Just finished finished the story less than an hour ago. I don't know why so many people complained about ganons second form. I felt his first form was sufficiently difficult even with all 4 divine beasts and his second form was made just to have a more cinematic (in a good way) finale. Over all my three main criticisms of the game overall would be:
>3 out of 4 Divine Beasts were too short. I felt naboris had a pretty good length though
>The blight ganon fights needed could've been more unique and I mean the fight itself not their design
>Test of Strength shrines definitely needed more variety

How are they gonna do the dlc if it takes place after endgame but beating ganon just sends you back to hyrule castle before you fight him?
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>>389107963
It was that it was a new standard basically for the genre in terms of game-play quality. There's been a flood of shitty open world adventure games in recent years.
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>>389108195
half life 2 had more physics based interaction with the world. fucking kill yourself. it also had level design
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>>389108447
/thread
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>>389107963
it took nearly all the good ideas scattered around open world games of the past two decades and put them all in a single game. for people who have played most open world games it seems unimpressive, but for people who havn't, BotW makes all those other games completely redundant and obsolete
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>>389116750
i fucking weep
>>389121137
these people are literally 14 years old
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it definitely makes some great decisions, like what others said about one being able to go anywhere and do any of the missions whenever you want, however it's not great. there's just too many problems in it.
being an open world game, it is another game to have a massive world with mostly meaningless content in it. there are shrines all over the place, but oddly enough, the shrines don't make sense. why are they in the game? they feel so out of place, serving only to take you out of the world so you can do some mediocre "puzzle" for 5 minutes. sure, it's a step above an Ubisoft game, but it's still empty. as for what's good, it's really the main quests, however they just don't last long enough; walking around the vast wasteland is what really takes up so much time.
i also didn't like how it lacked any sort of spectacle the whole game, something the series has always been known for. plus, the only time they played the classic jingle is when you go to the fairy fountains.
however, what's really worst of all is that the framerate is complete fucking shit. that alone proves that critics are fucking retarded and consumers should see them as such.
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>>389121875
>i also didn't like how it lacked any sort of spectacle the whole game

Literally not true at all. And the framerate is only constantly bad in like 2 or 3 places.
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>>389122446
>only constantly bad in like 2 or 3 places
no it fucking isn't. why does everyone blow shit out their ass when it comes to this game? i've played the game all fucking week, and there's lag all the time in all across the map. and no, it doesn't fucking matter how "bad" the lag is. if the game lags, then the developers clearly didn't fucking do their job.
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>>389110462
>that
>hips
I want sticcfags to leave
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>>389122740
Maybe you're switch is fucked up.

It works on my machine :)
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>>389123305
sure, i bought the game without knowing of the frame rate issues, but i definitely wasn't dumb enough to buy a switch
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>>389107963
It's so interactive that it redefined my expectations for how video game systems could work.

You look at the amount of interactions you can have with just an apple and it's staggering, and everything in the game is like that.
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>>389108206
I've played it.
That's not genre defining. Good? Yes. OH MY FUCKING GOD THIS IS THE NEXT MAJOR FRONT OF TECHNOLOGY AND DESIGN? No.
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>>389109925
Is this link?? Why have they given him womens hips now??

Fucking faggots make your mind up what you want
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>>389123636
>Playing the gimped wii u version
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>>389124024
>not playing the game on the console it was designed for

I sure hope you played the GC version of TP, anon.
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>>389124024
>playing a port
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>>389124246
>Not being able to play the game outside your house
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>>389107963
That's easy. Compare it to any other game and it looks like it's 3 generations ahead
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>>389121324
>it took nearly all the good ideas scattered around open world games of the past two decades
except it forgot the one most important thing that a open world game is suppose to have

>content
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Aonuma is a cuck. He hates Koizumi's zelda, and has been trying to fuck it up ever since
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>>389124390
>ever going outside
fucking normalfags, I swear.
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Not sure why but it is always fun to play. The combat mechanics as well as the movement mechanics make it fun. There are bits of goofiness whichadd to it. The thing I hate is that weapons break to quick. Weapons made of metal should not break. At worst they should become dull and you could get them fixed a. High tier bows shouldn't break same with shields.
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>>389107963
I'm not exactly an expert on open world games, but what I liked was how the game let me be creative with the way I played it. That and the art style. It actually has one as opposed to just trying to look as realistic as possible. Sick and tired of it.
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>>389108206
The whole point of open world is freedom. How can it be more free then something like skyrim where you do the tutorial then you can go do whatever you want?
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Daily reminder that BotW isn't just Game Of The Year, it's one of the greatest games if all time.

/v/ will never get over the humiliation.
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>>389125002
skyrim doesn't let you climb sheer cliff faces, which is extremely limiting as shown by how many people try to abuse horse physics to get around it despite horse physics being tedious to rely on in their own right
and the paraglider means no areas are soft-barred via unavoidable fall damages
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>>389125002
Because instead of getting a main questline after the tutorial, you get a singular objective: beat the final boss. You can do it immediately after the tutorial. Everything else is optionally powering up to beat the final boss, the game is extremely true to its premise.
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>>389124409
How could someone honestly believe it's the best Zelda game? You'd have to be out of your fucking mind.
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>>389125797
It is the best Zelda though. Usurped Majora's Mask as my favorite.
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>>389125797
It's not really comparable to traditional Zeldas, but personally it just might be my favourite.
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>>389125354
This, it's hilarious how /v/ is buttblasted about BOTW. The shit storm for NMH3 and Bayonetta 3 will be fun to watch too.
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>>389108491
Typical sonychild can't handle intellectual concepts.
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>>389125797
For some people, it just happens to be their favourite game and is coincidentally a Zelda game.
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>>389125797
It the Zelda game I've waited 20 years to play. And Nintendo actually lived up to the hype.
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>>389107963
It has a gay protagonist
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>>389107963
>I fail to see what it does new to the open world genre
it re-designs and overhauls every single detail we've come to expect from open-world shit, and fixes them.
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>>389127070
Well not every detail to be fair. But it IS an absolute milestone which elevates the bar for an entire genre.
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>>389125797
Nintendo fans are sycophants for new games, what else is new. Remember when people went apeshit over Twilight Princess getting an 8.8?
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>>389107963
There's a ZELDA label applied to 'open world'.
You don't need to be the first for the masses to adore you, see iPod / iPhone.
>>389109169
>The problem is that you can't really stuff the game with crap
But there is 900 Korok seeds?
Map is literally stuffed with nine hundred pieces of tree crap.
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>>389127070
>every single detail
Care to explain how does that apply to BotW Ubisoft towers or several hundred pieces of useless collectibles?
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>>389127781
>Ubisoft towers
Except they're nothing of the sort in BotW. Keep crying.
>several hundred pieces of useless collectibles?
So you're just a salty shit poster. Got it.
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Overall it felt like a golden but heavily unpolished formula for open-world games. It was the first open-world game I played that made me realize the concept actually can work well except they clearly didn't thoroughly develop a lot of these ideas or polished them to where they needed to be

I kinda wish a more competent company than Nintendo developed it. I just hope the endless praise from """""professional reviewers""""" isn't going to lull them into the idea that this game was perfect as is, they need to learn where they can progress the concept and perfect the formula for the next game.
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>>389127934
>I kinda wish a more competent company than Nintendo developed it.
Bwahahahahahahahahah! Name one.
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>>389127934
Are you a child?
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>>389127908
>Except they're nothing of the sort in BotW
If you're an ignorant faggot you might as well keep quiet instead of flaunting your retardation around openly.
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>>389128107
I honestly can't, which is probably why open-world continues to be such a fucking meme. BotW at least got it's core premise right, the exploration and world itself were great, they just fell a bit flat with combat, collectibles, plot, etc
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>>389128252
Sorry, meant to reply to >>389128107
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>>389128252
Well, he played BotW so chances are high the answer is YES.
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>>389107963

What it does "new" is have a cool physics engine...Even though the world is fucking boring. It still feels like a fucking test world instead of one that's actually interesting to explore. Who cares if you can climb everything when it's fucking boring to do so?
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>open world is now a genre
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>>389127050
>gay
>link
he just likes adventure, you can't fuck adventure
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>>389128256
The towers in BotW only serve the purpose of giving the player a visable goal to travel to, each tower has it's own unique challange to over come, activating fills in the basic topography of the map and it becomes a quick travel point. Nothing gets marked on your map, everything still has to be explored and every discover feels like a personal one.

Just admit you're salty as fuck because Nintendo made one of the best games of all time. You can't muster a single argument. That's why /v/ constantly shitposts about totally subjective non-issues because they have nothing else.
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>>389128307
Top kek. Funny how BotW makes every other open world game look like infantile nonsense. Right? RIGHT?
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>>389128549
Just admit you're a petulant child more obsessed with winning console wars than someone who actually enjoys video games and wants to see them improve, there's no other explanation for someone so willingly plugging their ears to any and all criticism of their current favorite game. You can't dismiss something like poor enemy variety or weak dungeons and bosses as "subjective non-issues" with how important both of those things are to the Zelda series unless you're practically shitposting because you're obsessed with a virtual boogeyman on a video game image board.
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>>389128549
>one of the best games of all time
>low enemy variety, same 3 minibosses spammed across the map
>only 4 dungeons that all function identically
>except for the rito one the champion powers all make the game too easy and unfun, pretty shitty "rewards"
>sense of wonder killed quickly once you realize the entire game will never have a surprising find, its just korok/shrine/hinox over and over
>40 shrines are just the combat and gift ones
>piss easy boss battles
>the game somehow thinks that shortening the length of the final boss is rewarding to players
>that fucking voice acting
>the plot for the ritos was obviously rushed
>every character besides the zoras are literal whos
>cooking system broken by the fact that complex meals are actually less useful than just cooking some common easy shit
>guardians are way too easy
>rain
>filler fetch quests that reward 150-300 rupees even though you constantly collect gems that render the rewards pointless
>low enemy variety

I poured 160 hours into it and really enjoyed my time but I don't get how people could play this game not be bothered by these
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>>389121198
Half Life 2 isn't an open world game.
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>>389121875
>they feel so out of place,
Someone didn't pay attention to what the characters were saying about the shrines.
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>>389128960
>who actually enjoys video games and wants to see them improve
Are you honestly going to sit there with a straight face and tell me BotW ISN'T a leap forward for open world game design? Really?

>>389128987
Wow you typed all of that and still couldn't come up with a complete non-subjective minor nitpick. People will try and elevate the smalliest inconsequential nonsense and pretend that they're MASSIVE GAME BREAKING FLAWS. Anything rather than simply admit Nintendo made a great game.
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>>389126276
>Bayo 3.

i'm not sure if it will surpass Bayo 2

On one hand Bayo 2 switching to Nintendo made the '''''''''''''''''fans''''''''''''' rabid.

Bayo 3 beign nintendo again would be less of a surprise to aforementionned retards, but it would be just the extra thing to confirm never ever status.
i'm thorn if we'll ever get as much salt as Bayo 2 for a Platinum game.
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