HL2 Fans: Why?

I first played it in 2012 and loved it. Don't know what to tell you. Everything looks worn down in Half Life 2 (Very much the opposite of Half Life 1, where everything looks cool and pristine or alien) because it's a post-Combine Earth.

>>389083710
>Could fans of HL2 explain
No, you underages are forever cursed to never being able to appreciate older games and what they did

Because fuking love it HL1 and expansions and when HL2 came out in 2004 i loved it just as much. The immersion and atmosphere were pretty GOAT. IMO

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It might be the same problem as with Seinfeld - because the series pioneered so many things for videogames, things it innovated in at release aren't seen as revolutionary nowadays and it takes away from some of the charm that Half-Life always held for the fans. That is not to say that the things it does aren't done well, the facial animation and lip-synch, the physics engine and the first-person narrative are all still strong and on par of what came after.

what the issue at present is however, is that what seemed like a masterful project was abandoned by its creator - not lost to a crappy sale and negative reviews, not impeded by a terrible bug or weak execution, but literally thrown to the side after a cliffhanger, where the series itself was at its high-point.

>>389083710
>I played it for the first time in 2009, so maybe that's a factor
I played it for the first time in 2011, when I finally bit the bullet, ordered my first custom-made PC, and became a mustard-racer, and I love the entire HL series to bits. I've not replayed HL2 alone some 4 times.

It looks great and sharp, plays great, has lots of freedom and dynamic-y compared to modern corridor-shooters, atmosphere is top-notch, character animations still BTFO of anything made by Bethesda, and the modding community is gigantic.

>>389083710
Learn to write and learn English. Fucking retard.

>Couldn't get into the atmosphere
You're either baiting or have very unique taste, don't bother trying to understand.

I'm not one of those people who think it's the best game ever, but the gravity gun was pretty cool.

>>389084485
Source was a great physics engine for it's time. Too bad all we have seen from Source 2 is DOTA 2 which doesn't have physics.

>>389084534
>*I've noW replayed HL2 alone some 4 times.
FTFM

>>389083710
no, fuck off

>>389083710
>thinly veiled shitposting

Won't work, nigga. Fuck off.

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>>389084719
That's Valve's problem - they have squandered their own resources, and even if next Half-Life game were to showcase Source 2, that would be enough.

Gabe has lied to everyone by saying "we don't want to do an old-school project", they simply don't want to expend the effort to finish the series and to innovate. They have become a software corporation, a virtual shop and not a game developer. Innovation means risk and risk means potential loss of profit, whereas Steam is a fat cow they can milk till the end of time.

>>389084026
>older
>HL2
It is modern AAA trash from design standpoint.

>>389085097
it's way past "modern" by TRULY modern ""standards"" that started in 2007 with CoD4.

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>>389083710
I first played it on the PS3 port in 2013 and I loved it. The atmosphere was awesome and the gunplay felt pretty damn good, though I had a few minor gripes. A lot of people say the MP7 feels weak as shit on PC, I think they compensated for this on the PS3 port by making it really fucking loud. I can't tell you how many times I booted up a save and ended up shattering my eardrums because I forgot that the MP7 is louder than a goddamn jackhammer. Supposedly it can break your wrists from controller vibration on the XBOX port.

it was the crysis of its day but actually a good game

>>389085235
It is a linear story driven shooter with plot delivered through semi-interactive cutscenes. CoD has different health system and more explosions, but that's it.

>>389083710
Half-Life 2 is fucking great. The atmosphere is unforgettable, and the level design is impeccable. I just wish the combine troopers were not hitscan enemies. The game kinda forces you to take damage a lot of times, which is my only major gripe with the game.

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We need more Virgin x Chad memes for HL series.

>>389085603

>takes damage
>instead of auto-healing like a pussy you must go and find healthpacks or a heal station

Literally nothing wrong with this.

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>>389083710
What can anyone really say to make you change your opinion?

Half-Life 2 was great because of a lot of things you obviously are not into.

>>389085672
I would work on Human v Combine if I wasn't lazy.

>>389085787
No no, I do not advocate auto-healing. Medpacks are infinitely better. I just wish the projectiles were avoidable, like in DOOM or Metroid Prime.

>>389085598
>CoD has different health system and more explosions, but that's it.
Modern CoD games require up to NO player feedback at worst, and rely on scripted "cinematic", first-person cutscene-events. There's no supply hunting, as your HP regenerates, all guns are practically the same, and so is ammo, that is thrown at you by bucketloads. Enemies also are always mere "dudes with guns", meaning very limited and tiny possibility space, made worse by the fact that majority of players' weapons are also skin-swapped bullethoses.

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>>389085598
>different health system and more explosions, but that's it.
I seriously doubt you played either HL2 or HL1 if you actually think this.

>>389085897

I would if i hasn't such a brainlet for creativity.

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>tfw read the script for HL3
>sounded like it would have been an awesome game

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>>389086053

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I don't know about you guys but the main thing I was rly impressed with when Half-Life 2 first came out were the great facial expressions and dialogue, along with excellent physics and lighting implementation.
All these years later and these are all completely standard aspects of most games, except facial expressions.

>>389085598
>It is a linear story driven shooter with plot delivered through semi-interactive cutscenes.

So it's like HL1?

>>389086229
sauce???

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>>389086229
>We won't get to experience that feeling of loneliness as it's just us and the void as the credits roll
>Even the writers have lost hope for it

Gaben was a mistake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iu4GXUHfU0

If you haven't played HL1 at all.

>>389086053
I don't dare to even read it. It hasn't sunk in yet that this series is officially kill.

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>>389086392

It's was made on GMOD senpai.

>>389086479

Gaben is just lost.

>>389085598
FFS, there's more to a shooter than linearity. If you can't tell the difference between HL2 and COD, then you are senseless.

Shooting in this game is beyond mediocre but the whole game just kinda comes together and every aspect of it works and immerses you in the game. Hard to explain really. It just... works.

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>>389086053
>lots of roumours about valve wont make hl3 because it wont be able to live up to the hype
>read plot
>it can perfectly stand to the fucking hype

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>389086520
I'd say not to lose hope but what with Valves focus on side products like Artifact that Valve isn't even using their main staff for and the VR work it implies they really don't care at this point.

Like they've made a new engine altogether and have barely even used it when it had great potential.

>>389083710
>so maybe that's a factor.
Yes, that is definitely a factor. You had played this back in 2004, it would've blown your mind.

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>>389086479
It's not Gaben, its us. We enabled his greed and it was greed that created Steam and killed Half-Life. Only the fans can resurrect it, if there is anyone ambitious out there to put that story script into a mod. Perhaps expand it a bit, spruce up the source itself, but if Black Mesa was done, why not this? The only bummer would be the voice acting but again, these guys did it so its feasible.

I wouldn't mind if Black Mesa folks were given the opportunity to make Ep3 in a format that Laidlaw wrote it, maybe ask him to flesh it out?
Its all fanciful ruminations, I know, but if people ask...

It was a time and place sort of thing.

It has aged like milk and has probably the worst pacing of any video game.

>>389086504
>720p

>>389083710
Only real issue I personally ever had with it is that its too easy even on hard.

>>389083710
HL fans are like Metroid fans. Old, mostly dead, and can only talk about their waifu / husbando.

The game is solid but better ones have come since.

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>>389083710
How come more games don't use detail textures? I think they make the lower res textures look pretty good still at medium distance.

>>389087063

Stop being such a fag.

>>389086772
This is correct. The shooting in the game is functional, but not great, and yet the game is amazing. It's so much greater than the sum of its parts.

F.E.A.R. is the polar opposite. Amazing shooting mechanics, but samey level design. As a result, it's not greater than the sum of its parts.

>>389084485
The first person narrative is easily one of Half-Life 2's most notable flaws, because a much greater proportion of the game has people talking at you than in the first game.

>>389084485
When do you think they made the decision to not do 3?

>>389087313
Yeah tell me how are you able to see shit and read the small texts.

The video is good, but that fucking resolution, the video should have been 1440p at least

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It just made me feel badass playing it. The atmosphere, the sound design, the gunplay. Such a great aesthetic to it.

On replays (of which I have done MANY), the flaws are more than apparent. The game is easy as fuck even on 'Hard', its full of obnoxious unskippable cutscenes, the enemy AI isn't even as good as its 1998 predecessor which is plain said, and the enemy variety in general is less than it should be.

But even with those issues, I still consider it to be a fantastic game.

Picture completely unrelated.

>>389087514

>can't read the texts

Are you blind or phoneposting? Or both?

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>>389087487
Probably with a gradual fall-off of interest and manpower within company devoted to the project, I guess sometime in 2012-13, when anyone did any last thing on it at all. There were rumors of it being on and off started and restarted by interested groups within Valve, but they all eventually petered out under the pressure to work on other things and lack of support from the top brass.

Given that the company is privately held by Gabe, I think people don't realize what a pitfall it is to think of it as an "open workplace" - it only goes as far as the will of the owner, and Gabe is the king of that place. I wouldn't be surprised if he strangled the project slowly over the years as Steam and DoTA became more profitable.

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>>389088060
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>>389086479
>3 new vr games
>one of them isn't half-life 3

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>>389083710
>Could you guys explain if it felt different in 2004?
It did, in 2004 the graphics and physics in Half-Life 2 were pretty revolutionary. It's not my favorite game, and I can see why someone playing it today wouldn't be blown away, but the same could be said about someone playing Ocarina of Time for the first time 10+ years after it released.

It has good voice actors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylyCY9srJGw

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>>389088294
I sincerely hope so my man, but you gotta grow up sometime and face the music. The end is more likely than any future games.

I played it for the first time in fucking 2014, and loved it.

>>389086385
Yes, but not that innovative at the time.

>>389085938
> Modern CoD games require up to NO player feedback at worst, and rely on scripted "cinematic", first-person cutscene-events
Just like Half-Life 2 did. Yes, you can move around while Barney, Alyx and Klener are talking - big fucking deal, the doors will not open until they finish anyway. How's that different from a cinematic? You can "interact" with them by throwing the pieces of scenery arond, but since they cannot react, that hardly counts.
>There's no supply hunting, as your HP regenerates, all guns are practically the same, and so is ammo, that is thrown at you by bucketloads. Enemies also are always mere "dudes with guns", meaning very limited and tiny possibility space, made worse by the fact that majority of players' weapons are also skin-swapped bullethoses.
This is all true, but this is also a result of applying the formula of MoH:AA - the game that was essentially Half-Life in WWII setting.

>>389088294
They've been baiting for a long time. Randomly putting 3s into everything. Conferences being held 3.3, little 3kb patch for HL2 that fixes 3 things, it's always just a little kick in the nuts before the big announcement that they're adding new cosmetics to Dota2 or new knives to CSGO. Really the only money they're making off of their actual games at this point is just re-selling CSGO to hackers on twink accounts.

>>389087789
do you have sauce on said image?

>>389088762
He's not referring to that kind of first-person cutscene-event, he's talking about the kind where they give you some kind of military toy like a drone or a gunship or an RC-car-with-a-taser-attached and then has "gameplay" which is actually closer to an interactive cutscene

DYSON SPHERES

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>>389087487
There was news recently that there were maps for episode 3 for testing purposes last edited i think ~2013. Same year Dota 2 came out of beta and was officially released.

I don't find it hard to say that there were intentions to work on the game, but after they realized how much money Dota 2 would make them from hats and TI they shifted gears. Its the same thing that happened to Blizzard after WoW was released. Then came experimenting with VR and developing Source 2. After Source 2 its most likely that they had to scrap anything that people may have been working on beforehand and start from scratch.

At this point, there's no one there that wants to work on it at this point. Valve is set up very differently where you can work on whatever you want at anytime. At any point you can move your desk to any project going on. There is no structure. The money right now is in Dota 2, and to a lesser extent CSGO so its the safe thing to do for anyone aspiring to work there. Their is probably pressure not only from the outside, but internally as well. It's a lot of weight to try to take on HL3 at this point for anyone there, and its not a game that can be worked on by 5-10 people in their spare time like the Gameinformer source said was the case.

Its a shame really. In a perfect world we wouldve gotten Episode 3, and the 2 unannounced episodes that were going to be developed by a separate studio, and a hatless TF2, CSGO, and DOTA 2.

>>389089167
> He's not referring to that kind of first-person cutscene-event, he's talking about the kind where they give you some kind of military toy like a drone or a gunship or an RC-car-with-a-taser-attached and then has "gameplay" which is actually closer to an interactive cutscene
Those are merely the descendants of the turret sections - influenced by HL's storytelling. In some ways, they can be considered as improvement of them.

>>389088559
>The end is more likely than any future games.
No proper news about it other than few implications from Valve for almost 10 years now, yea definitely but not all hope is lost for me desu.

>>389088905
That's another thing. If they wanted people to completely forget about HL3 and leave them alone nobody at Valve would even remotely mention/tease it.

>>389088762
>How's that different from a cinematic?
for me it feels like you're actually in the world of the game rather than controlling a character from that world. Story feels like it progresses as you play through it and less like you play through a pre-written script.

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>>389086504
This is why this area of Episode 2 was so fucking good, since you could visualize the whole structure before going through it, just like that video, except in real time. You were also constantly aware of where exactly you were, and it felt like a cohesive puzzle as a result.

>>389087926
Not that poster, but there were several spots in the video where more fidelity would've been nice.

Isn't it crazy that the HL2 dev team was a measly 84 people?

>>389089998

>dat Gman chillin in the bridge

>>389090169

I agree, but c'mon, the texts can be seen clearly.

>>389084485
what did it pioneer anyway?

Was it really the physics engine? Anything else?

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>>389090398
And I think this is first game's whole dev team.

>>389090531
I know my issue with HL2 is that while I know about when it came out, I don't have any context with what other pc games that were out alongside it were like so I'm not sure how it stood out. I was a consolekiddy from 1991-2011

>>389090574

>ywn chill with HL dev team and fish with them

https://youtu.be/3fhu72Ygghg
ASS

>>389087789
>the enemy AI isn't even as good as its 1998 predecessor which is plain said
To be honest, it's on par with HL1. It's just that it's released 6 years later and not much changed since then. Why is it so hard to do proper enemy AI anyway? It's not hard, have squads cover each other as they try rush from cover to cover as they encircle you. FEAR, STALKER, OF:Rising Storm all had amazing AIs and those games run on Pentium 4. Why can't we have dynamic AI in games nowadays when devs have access to 7 cores on consoles. Fucking 7. What do they waste that shit on, drawcalls on sexy sidekicks's butt? HL1 has more competent AI than anything released in the past 5 years and that game ran on Pentium III, in software renderer aswell, and they still had free cycles for that shit.

>>389088546
What is with Valve and them being able to get the very best writers, developers and actors?
Everytime it's 10/10 quality

Shame about it's management though

>>389091707
The enemy AI in HL2 is not as bad as everyone says it is, it's just exploitable at certain sections, like Lighthouse Point. It really shines in the firefight at White Forest Inn.

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I HURT MYSELF TODAY

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>>389085078
what the fuck do you even need to earn more money for that you can't do with 4.1 billion dollars

fuck gay ben

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anyone else think this is the best LP?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJT_wi9Xg9c

>>389091151
>ywn drown gabe in the fucking ocean before it's too late

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>>389095108
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>>389091707
Probably because 90% of making good AI is just excellent level design which allows the AI to shine.
That's basically what you see with FEAR where the cost of good AI is the entire game having to be the same kind of environments over and over because that's where the AI works best

>>389083710

You have to be 25 and own a PC to post here.

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>>389093063
TO SEE IF I STILL FEEL

>>389083710
With HL2 came more mods with a new engine

Soldier of Fortune was better.

>>389095585
EYY, FREEMAN, FUHGEDDABOUDID

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>>389095585
I FOCUS ON THE PAIN

THE ONLY THING
THAT'S REAL

>>389095867
So I was away from /v/ when the news broke that Half life 3 is never coming out.

How did /v/ take it?

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>>389095867
THE NEEDLE TEARS A HOLE

>>389095996
I'm waiting for the movie. Every else lost faith in HL3 since 2011. This is nothing new but for some of us at least is some kind of closure.

I played it in 2005 or 2006 when I was a retard and didn't know how to play vidya properly because I was young, fuck I even remember trying to play HL1 and didn't know how to progress because an action button was a weird concept to me. I mostly played RTS and shit. I played and beat them properly around 2012-2013 I think? Despite their age, I really enjoyed the games. I did beat them before that time but I used cheats because I was just shit at vidya. Good games overall in my opinion. Sure you can nitpick but people are just prone to liking certain things. I've played fuck tons of different fps, both console and PC.

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>>389096158
THE OLD FAMILIAR STING

>>389096292
I really doubt it's coming out. It's been proposed since half life 2 has been released and nothing has happened. Let go anon.

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>>389090574
>that pre-morbid obesity gaben

>>389096486
You are doubting, what HL3 or a movie about HL?

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>>389090531
HL1 was the true pioneer.
It was the first big game to have the story be told within the game, with no cutscenes. It was one of the first games that dropped the "level" logic and made it all a long progression without breaking it into rooms.
AI was witty and especially encounters with marines were challenging. Level design is still superb up to today, sci-fi themes are well made and engaging, and it manages to keep a good atmosphere for the whole game.
HL2 just doubled down on everything

>>389088294
>L4D3
>DOTA3
>TF3
There ya go

>>389096639
I'm doubting the movie.

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>>389096829
>PORTAL 3 CONFIRMED

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>>389096463
TRY TO KILL IT ALL AWAY

BUT I REMEMBER EVERYTHING

>>389086326
>except facial expressions.
It's amazing how much modern facial capture still manages to look worse than a completely mechanical system made well over a decade ago.

>>389097208
Their system was fairly robust and based on a library of motion that was already captured and fine-tuned, as opposed to the raw facial cap and slap that most people do today.

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>>389097151
WHAT I HAVE BECOME

MY SWEETEST FRIEND

>>389086229
Why does Gordon have little baby hands?

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>>389097370
EVERYONE I KNOW GOES AWAY

IN THE END

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>>389097536
yeah...gordon...what a loser...

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>>389097576
AND YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL

MY EMPIRE OF DIRT

Most HL2 fans never played HL1, or if they did, they didn't play HL1 when it came out.

>>389095996
There was a very long sticky full of reaction images and sad Anons and now we've got regular Half-Life threads.

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>>389098098
I WILL LET YOU DOWN

I WILL MAKE YOU HURT

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>>389098165
That's a loaded claim, mate.

>>389098165
>most people who like this game that came out in 2004 didn't play this other game that came out in 1998 within a very short time window
what a BOLD CLAIM

>>389083710
I am also in the same boat. The AI was brilliant and the story was paced well. My problems with the game was its floaty controls, hitscan weapons and shitty puzzles.

I stopped after Ravenholm because the driving sections and forced "interactive cutscenes" was infuriating.

I enjoyed my time with Unreal tournament 2004 and Vampire Masquerade bloodlines way more than Half life 2. Hell i enjoyed Quake 1 way more than HL2. I think HL2 in 2004 blew everyone's mind with its physics

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>you will never see the harem ending

>>389098920
>floaty controls
????
half-life has perfectly responsible controls, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>389098518
Perhaps, but it's true. HL1 stands head and shoulders above HL2. HL2 is very shallow and uninspired in comparison. The only people who thought HL2 was mind-blowing in 2004 were people who had heard about how great HL1 was second-hand.

>>389099107
I don't know if its my hardware that's causing the problem but whenever i stopped after walking the momentum would carry me a little forward unlike in quake or unreal tournament

>>389099098
>that gman
>that weird tiny dog
erry tim

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>>389099098
Now I want Black Mesa Date Simulator...

>>389083710
Great story, music, varied gameplay, well executed atmosphere. The controls felt a bit dated even back then, but that's such a small complaint against the pros.

>>389099770
>The controls felt a bit dated even back then
you move and jump and duck
what the hell are you talking about

>>389083710
I love lore about things like the Combine. Megastructures, complex organisms, insanely massive goals and such.
Same reason why I loved Mass Effect 3

>>389099495
Alyx said dog was tiny when Eli made it for her, and Alyx looks young there so it kind of makes sense.

>>389100082
Yeah but it just looks like a consumer electronic toy off the shelf, like a chromed up version of dog just scaled down, not like what I'd imagine the first iteration of Dog looked like.

>>389083851
>Everything looks worn down in Half Life 2
It was likely intentional

Do you think the invading aliens would maintain the infrastructure and facilities for an entire species they are going to systematically kill off and a planet they are exploiting for resources?

It's just an okay shooter heralded as great by people with middling standards. The only thing it excelled at was physics and face animations.

>>389084026

i played the damn thing when it was new alongside other games like mgs3, san andreas, and halo 2.

it wasn't even special back then. not besides some gimmicky physics crap that didn't add anything of substance to the game until you got to the zombie level and got to throw buzz saws with it which was kind of cool.

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Tell me half life fans, you have complained so much

But what exactly is it that you've created?

Can you name even one thing?

I thought not

>>389100692
lol.

>>389083710
It's simple.

Back when it came out a lot of the things it did was new and fresh and the technology at display was impressive.

Games have advanced to the point where everything in half life 2 is quaint if someone new were to play it now.

There's your answer.

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>>389100669
You are so wrong, as proof of this go watch the E3 traptown demo when they revealed the insane physics for the time.

You are simply under-age. Anyone doubting that HL2 was revolutionary at the time is just wrong.

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>>389100785
MODDERS WILL MAKE EP 3
JUST YOU WAIT

>>389100404
I said as much in the post you're quoting, my man.

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>>389100692

>>389086504
Opposing force doesn't sync up with the timeline

>>389087487
I think it was constantly shifting between early development and shelving everything from 2006 to 2014, but any teams interested in the franchise 2015-present are working on VR.

They could probably salvage at least 3 4-hour long games if they took a couple of months to polish up their WIPs, but Gabe wouldn't have it.

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>>389087487
Just after Mass Effect 3

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>>389100930
Just like how modders will create Xen huh

>>389101217
Dude Black Mesa is perfect!

>>389100785
Dear Dr. Breen,
How does the Combine see fit to suppress our reproductive cycle with boxing gloves on?
Crapfully yours, a Concerned Citizen

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>>389100884
Just show graphics of other games that came out that year. Half-Life 2 fucking changed the game and a shitload of games that have come out use it, Insurgency and the original Titanfall come to mind. The Source engine is my favorite engine by far.

>>389101295
Thank you for writing, Homestar fan. Of course your question touches on one of the most basic biological impulses, with all its associated hopes and fears for the future of the species. I also detect some unspoken questions. Do our benefactors really know what's best for us? What gives them the right to make this kind of decision for mankind? Will they ever deactivate the suppression field and let us breed again?

>>389091869
They attract the best because they're made up of industry veterans, offer a six-figure salary, are always hiring, and allow you to work on whatever you want.

Think about it, if you had the qualifications would you want to work at EA, where every one of your decisions would be tampered with by out of touch executives and shareholders, or make twice as much money without having to answer to anyone?

>>389100785

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJUFgEZIvm8

Every time.

He did nothing wrong

>>389100785
wasn't he in Greatest American Hero?

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This is a pretty stupid mindset, OP. I can see how asteroids and all those games made before I was born were revolutionary at the time while still realizing that 30+ years later I don't have much interest in them.

We don't want to convince you because what is the point. We're old and don't give a shit about your feels.

>>389095996
We had one of the biggest stickies ever, a mod set Triage at Dawn to play automatically. There was a very apparent separation between oldfags and newfags.

>>389101476
Allow me to address the anxieties underlying your concerns, rather than try to answer every possible question you might have left unvoiced. First,
DELETED! BWAHAHAHA!

>>389100884
and again what good were those physics? shitty, puzzles where you pick up a barrel and place it on a seesaw? no fuck that.

they were only good for the gravity gun throwing shit and aside from buzzsaws in the zombie level the game just HAD to have, it could only really do anything cool at the VERY END.

and besides gimmicky physics, what else did the game have going for it? The AI and the gunplay were standard. Open maps? yeah with nothing fucking in them.No reason to explore, no reason for them to be so damn big other than to waste your time traveling. oh and the no cutscenes? also stupid. yeah great you don't have that thing every other game trying to tell a story has. but you know what those games let you do? SKIP scenes! you can't do that in half-life 2, so instead u sit there picking up cans off of some asshole's desk and throw them around or at the asshole's head, but of course there's no reaction. just the asshole and maybe another asshole, talking as if you were paying attention. and of course, gordan freeman isn't actually a character, so he doesn't have anything to ever add to a scene anyways.SO you either have people TALKING at you or ignoring you and talking to each other. sometimes for minutes before you can continue the damn fucking game.

these shitbag devs couldn't even finish their 3rd dlc for this damn trilogy. they dont care, one of the most beloved and successful devs of all time. but why?

most of their IPs aren't theirs, (modders make shit and then they buy the modders and give them budgets) they have a SHIT worth ethic, and their "game of the generation" is generic as they come and wasn't even special for its time outside of a useless gimmick that served no point other than someone saying "look how cool this is" before realizing it wasn't that great which is why no one else years later did it. they weren't ahead of the curve, they invented something stupid which is why nobody cared.

>>389100981
opposing force isn't canon

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>/v/ has become so shit now that there are people who don't like HL2

>>389091669
I dont know why im laughing so fucking hard at this
ALIEN
ASS

>>389102239
>whinnie the poo is fed up.jpg

>>389102130
You just CAN'T understand, anon. Game worlds were so static back then. To even see how most everything had physics was an amazing thing to behold. Explosions, puzzles, breakable secret areas.

Grenades became this obnoxious and hilarious thing which had a mind of their own depending on how they hit the ground. They had an alt fire roll to better position them.

The voice sync tech was amazing and still rivals games to this day. The ability for your mods to perfectly sync a characters lips to what you want them to say. Not to mention the eyes of the characters. They were actually 3D and had that human glow to them.

This is about the old effort I can stomach to be honest because frankly, if you can't see how amazing the game was at the time, I don't really have much to discuss with you since my opinion of you is already so low.

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It was complete fucking garbage even at the time.

I couldn't believe the same people who made Half-Life worked on it.

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>>389102281

>>389102487
yum yum I love empty contrarianism

>>389090531
Off the top of my head: graphics, physics, facial animations. The gravity gun was an amazing spectacle for the time and got it talked about all over. Had great AI too. Invented the first person cut scenes that games like CoD now do regularly

>>389083710
I think most of my love for it comes through mods. Sure I liked the physics, atmosphere and setting of it, it was a good shooter but the real meat were the mods for it and css. Thats why i hoped they would release a new engine with csgo, the reason why i bought it. Didnt happen and wont happen again i guess

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>>389102584
How is it empty? Do I have to type out another essay on why it was such a letdown?

Just this entire buggy segment for starters

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My real question about this topic is:

Do the children posters realize their underage stink is as strong as it is?

There will be 13 year olds posting in this thread who were born after HL2's release in a couple of days. Let that sink in.

>>389085672
>that one chapter where you see that barney is pinpoint accurate at 500m+ range while the squads of HECU soldiers are in fact, not

>>389102835
You don't have write one but you do have to post one.

HL2 has too many shitty chapters. the opening is kind of neat but then there's no really good parts until you get to ravenholm, and then not again until the sand traps chapter when the game finally starts getting some consistently decent levels.
i still think HL2 is one of the greatest games out there though just because of the modding community.

>>389083710
I liked it more than 1

>>389103169
I liked the coastline/buggy/bridge segments

>>389103169
>Ravenholm
>good

I want to play a cool sci-fi alien game, not a fucking generic zombie scroller

>>389103471
generic zombie scroller with a crazy sci-fi physics gun

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>>389103160
What do you want to discuss?

The awful gunplay?
The ridiculously scripted and dissatisfying vehicle parts?
The unbelievably stupid AI?

>>389083710
If you can grasp the evolution of games then you can understand that in this day and time that the game came out just like it's predecessor it was among the top of it's game in terms of atmosphere, story, and execution.

Put simply it hit enough right notes with enough people to warrant the fandom that it has. Nothing ages gracefully in gaming after enough time has passed however there are still cornerstones that are used from those games that we still see today. Hell those cornerstones basically spawn genres and half life had a hand in pushing story driven fps games to the forefront for a while. That genre itself isn't one that has much staying power because development can be a pain for such a short experience whereas things like mario games are such a cookie cutter formula that something like mario maker can be made.

Unfortunately so much time has passed now that honestly if HL3 were to be made then the bar would be set so high in other's minds that there's likely no satisfying everyone and that's probably one of the main reasons that Valve hasn't bothered with it anymore. Because they know deep down that they've waffled too long on it.

>>389103545
It really ain't that special when everything you do with it in the level is throwing saw blades and pushing cars out if the way.

>>389103630
Not that anon, but I disagree with those three statements, so what now?

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>>389103630
M80 please stop trying so hard

Half-Life 2 is a solid game that only casuals shit on.

>not a hoo-rah parade like CoD
>no regenerating health
>varied weapons that serve purposes
>levels that vary from claustrophobic to wide-open
>platforming while fighting off enemies

You're going to give me an aneurysm, in my pants
A pantseurysm if you will

Yours in infinite finality,
Someone with not shit taste

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>>389085672
"The Virgin physicist"

THE CHAD Space Biker

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>>389103630
I want an argument, edited, that's longer than one paragraph long, and I know I'm not going to get that from a 4chan poster because duh everything will 404 in a couple hours at best.

>>389104518
>has never saved a fellow scientist in his life

>>389103630
It is kinda sad that the A.I. was worse than the HL1 A.I.
Gunplay could be better now, but all the non Source shooters back then sucked ass.

>>389104449
Just a question. How old are you?

General age range is fine. 18-25 I assume?

>>389083710
>only shooters i played were bioshock, gaylo, prime, and re 4
No wonder youre fucking retarded.

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>>389104704

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>>389104704
21
First played HL2 when i was 10
HL1 when I was 7-8

>>389103853
>not beaning zombies with paint buckets and guards with toilets
>not dropping a grenade, switching to grav gun, grabbing the nade and speedballing it into a group of enemies out of throw range

>>389086479
At least he isn't shitting on it and doesn't milk it to death.
It died with dignity

>>389083710
It was good for it's time with great physics and gunplay but mostly nostalgia at this point. The game isn't and never was bad but it was never as good as people say around here. Those days had just never seen an FPS quite like that. Now we have several and the bloom is off that rose.

>>389086890
>story is all what people care about and what's important about a videogame

>>389105013
I thought as much. You weren't old enough to appreciate what Half-Life 1 did at that time.

When Half-Life 2 came along we were all expecting it might be the next leap forward but all it did well was its physics engine.

You have to understand how utterly disappointing it was to go backwards in many areas, particularly artificial intelligence. The demos for Half-Life 2 indicated they had more advanced ways of pathfinding, working as a team and flanking but in the end all they do is awkwardly strafe.

>>389083710

It was REALLY well optomised, like REALLY WELL

like REALLY


tl;dr really

>>389105571
>HL1 was innovative
>but HL2 wasn't, 'cause I say so
m8 you might be confusing HL1 with Ico

>>389105292
>Those days had just never seen an FPS quite like that. Now we have several
Such as?
I can't think of any FPS with the same combination of tight well paced level design and non-scripted interactivity

>>389105781
How in any way except physics was Half-Life 2 innovative?

You were 10 at the time so you should know.

>>389105803
It was pretty scripted, to be fair. You had setpieces all over and specific methods of moving through specific areas. I've found Bioshock to have more freedom and a more interesting setting.

>>389085935
>implying a manlet nerd like gordon freeman could dodge alien bullets (or anything really) in a suit that probably weighs half as much as him

no

Just realized how good some HL LiveActions that there is around YT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaN3sVvVYVk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw684xM2cUo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z6CfxZ4opE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYJwo04d_is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvgEx1g9dW4

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>>389105257
One of the most highly praised FPS series of all time not getting a story-arc conclusion after a fucking decade of teases and downright misleading statements
>died with dignity
KEK
>at least it wasn't milked to death
You know, it's not like valve could shit out yearly releases of Half-Lifes while handling Steam and all their other IP's

>>389105571
>not old enough to appreciate what Half-Life 1 did at the time
My father and uncle both had relatively wicked PC hardware in the late 90's and early 2000's and would always answer my questions regarding hardware and what games were tough to run
>they really knew their shit, especially hardware
>taught me computer hardware since I was at least interested in that at the time
>helped tons of people out around the county with their computers
>Half-Life 2 is shown off
>be barely 7 years old
>come home from school
>dad is on the phone with uncle with huge fucking grin on his face
>'think it'll really do that when it comes out?'
>uncle says it's just a tech demo and the game probably can't do that in gameplay
>fast forward
>HL2 comes out
>dad insists I play
>check it out
>binge the fuck out of the game
>even let me stay home from school for 2 days
>'It's like a better Half-Life with a story'

That's how I know HL2 is a big fucking deal.
They could've cheesed it in any department but didn't and then threw in a fucking nice sci-fi story

Not an easy thing to do today m8, and not in 2004

>>389099856
Peaking around corners or being able to climb up ledges rather than jump 8 feet into the air would help. Combined with the fact that you are running around with an armory of weapons (which don't get me wrong, is an important part of it being a HL game) just makes it feel like another "video gamey" video game that doesn't even try to immerse the player.

>>389106415
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYJwo04d_is
It's called Escape From City 17. I know the original upload is gone probably but at least pick a reupload that has the title and not some gay ass clickbait.

>>389106862
Who the hell cares.

>>389106862

Ops, sorry.

I know there's a sequel of this one as well.

>>389106617
I don't see how your anecdotal evidence is helping you one bit. If anything those feelings are rendering you unable to pass proper judgment on Half-Life 2.

>>389106918
I do. Youtube is full of obnoxious cancerous faggots. It takes no effort to link a different upload. Also that one cut out like a minute and a half from the short film.

>>389106991

Found it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GX4cIJiXgQ

>>389083710
It clearly wasn't the best game and it has lots of aspects to improve upon but it certainly was the hit that pushed genre/industry forward and many have fond memories of playing the shit out of it. That's why HL sequel has to be the perfect game.

When it comes down to it Half-Life 2 is overrated. Sure, it had neat physics but that's about it. While the shooting mechanics are solid, most of the weapons feel really dull. Also the level design isn't much to brag about.

>>389107462
>While the shooting mechanics are solid, most of the weapons feel really dull.

What's with this oxymoron you're using here. If the gunplay is shit then it's shit.

>>389106010
>How in any way except physics was Half-Life 2 innovative?
It's mostly subtle and about level design and guiding the player, using art, sound, color to achieve design goals.
>You were 10 at the time so you should know.
You might have me confused for someone else.

>>389107582
>It's mostly subtle
Yep I'm done here.

Sick of arguing with 20 somethings. You kids can't even write properly.

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>>389107054
My judgement is that it handled everything it did very well
>it's like half-life but with a story
>great weapons and enemies to use them on
>satisfactorily take down squads as a theoretical physicist
>fantastic atmosphere, partly due to the fact source had crazy skybox technology
>moved from a corridor shooter to a cross-country
>yes, god-tier physics also
> handles vehicles very well while STILL not taking away control from player

HL1 was Elder-God tier for the time
HL2 was also Elder-God tier for the time
There isn't diddly you could do to convince me otherwise

I can wrap my head around the concepts of what Half-Life 1 did at the time
I was told it non-stop by my dad and uncle
>but you are not le oldfag, surely you can not comprehend it with your young brain
okay there chompski honk

>>389101631

Yes, the voice belongs to Robert Culp.

>>389107854
Oh no. Grandpa's gone senile.

>>389090574
Wow Gayben lookin good. Guess the fat was all the evil collecting inside of him

>>389104518
Ivan 100% has the voice of Brian Blessed.

should i play hl2 and the episodes again? first reply decides.

>>389090574
>>389108056
No one cared who he was until he put on the fat.

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>>389108303
yes of course

Hot take: Research and Development is better than Episode One

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Just how many references to Dyson Spheres do the Combine have?

>>389108939
Oh holy fuck.

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>>389109057
>>389108939
Apparently it's also their computer warning sign, so maybe this just means "hazardous"

>>389108939
It's the reactor symbol

>>389109251
Fug :D

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>>389108437
ok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQzSm_obx3c

What if they made the Ep3 as a movie from Source Filmmaker?

>>389103853

if those two things are all you can think of doing with the gravity gun, you're spending too much time using the other weapons.

>>389084571
Nice sentence fragments.

>>389084026
Funny considering I just played SotN a year ago and it's one of the best games I've played.

>>389101321
Like Far Cry, Doom 3, Max Payne 2? Those were some pretty games.

>>389083710
Played it at release and I wasn't impressed.

>>389083710
I liked it, it's a fun shooter and the Gravity Gun is still a pretty creative idea.

Good story, too, but of course there have been games to surpass it since then.

For 2004, though, it's basically Ocarina of Time.

I only played Half Life 2 sometime last year or before, on the fucking OG Xbox, and what I liked it about it was the atmosphere. It has a peculiarly unique sort of eastern bloc jank look to it, worn down, shitty, grimy. Everything has a certain feeling of being stuck in the 60s or 70s. There's a coldness and emptiness to the surroundings. The idea of a totalitarian alien occupation is great, and its omnipotence of the situation manifests in such a wonderfully horrible way. It's kind of hard describe, but it really feels like an almost slackened occupation, slackened because they're so in control, alien lifeforms are infesting places due to wilful negligence, Ravenholm is fucking scary because they just dropped headcrabs in there and called it a day. There's something so horribly ominous about finding those charred corpses in sewers, like those were people who were disappeared by a brutish secret police.

The gameplay was fairly lacklustre from what I remember, but fuck me, that atmosphere was top fucking tier.

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>>389110902
the gameplay was so different to me, it wasn't hard whatsoever and the ammo crate system made sure you had ammo, health and armor whenever you needed it. But the combat wasn't supposed to be hard whatsoever, the best thing about the combat was using explosions and physics to just kill your enemies and see how you could kill them and make it look cool, my only evidence to support this is how cool the ragdolls were and how satisfying it was to kill NPC's in the game

>>389110902
>Ravenholm is fucking scary because they just dropped headcrabs in there and called it a day
Fuckin' ay. People forget this.

>>389105571
You have to understand how utterly disappointing it was to go backwards in many areas, particularly artificial intelligence.

I noticed that when HL2 came out. I also didn't care

>mfw watching all dem SFM HL2 movies

Some are actually quite good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0vkNn7Lcps

>>389085672
We always forget how much of a badass barney really is because they made him so lame in hl2

>>389111651
Breen looks pretty fucking awful there.

>>389091050
This dude gets it.

In order to really appreciate HL/HL2, you have to look at what the games offer, as well as looking around for what was coming out prior to it.

And then you'll understand that HL and HL2 set a lot of standards that are still around today. It's not that it's the greatest series ever. It's more that it set the bar, which by nature makes it look subpar in retrospection.

>>389111741

They mix in some Black Mesa models as well.

I know the graphics didn't aged well, but still doesn't take off the credit, it's good af.

>When I realize HL3 is kill I feel so sad that there is no more room in my brain for other feelings of sadness and I no longer feel anything for my ex gf

I'll take it

>>389111814
I would still say Half-Life 2 would be a 8/10 game even today. The only other single-player game that would compete with it today is DOOM or Prey (Haven't played it yet but I heard it's pretty good)

>>389087252
Normal maps?
Bump maps?
Specular maps?
AO maps?

>>389106617
>my dad let me play it

Well shit son, why didn't you say so. And of course your dad is someone who's opinion I can trust, if not your overhyped easily influenced 7 year old ass. There's logical fallacies and then there's what you're trying to say.

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>>389112135
>playing the game discredits my opinion

This is a new low for /v/

Moar HL2 SFM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKuEHBzBEWw

>>389112342
>i played it when I was 10 and was super hyped by people who I looked up to so I loved it and you can't stop from loving it

Hey that's great, but that's not an argument. I played it when it came out too, I was 14 or so and not particularly impressed then or now. So what? Either make a coherent argument outside of "I played it and it was great and you'll never understand" or at the very least acknowledge that what you're doing isn't arguing but throwing an anecdote, mixed with some appeals to authority that I don't recognize at us and expecting that to be the end of discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKuEHBzBEWw

How crazy would it be Shephard appearing in City17 with his Marine uniform. Prolly attract lotta of attention.

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>>389112786
m8, we're done
go home

>>389113093

Fug wrong link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQzSm_obx3c

>>389096829
>TF3
There will never be another CS/Dota/TF game because of the established trade and market economies they are working on updating them all to source 2

>>389113162
I really like that metropolice executing that citizen scene paralleling Sheperd's flashback (despite it not being a real flashback). Although the combine just being out of ammo all of a sudden was really fucking lame.

>>389113162
>>389113980
Oh and the alarm sounding at the end was great.

>>389113980

You could see on the close at the revolver that it wasn't fully loaded. It's plausible at least.

>>389083710

I loved the first one back when it came out, but I was never in love with 2. HL2 has too much talking, and while the physics engine was cool, the AI was dumb as shit, and the gunplay was nothing to write home about. F.E.A.R. is much better in almost all respects, and Dark Messiah of Might and Magic used the physics engine much better.

HL2 has decent pacing and a good setting, and it keeps the good Half-Life tradition of never taking control away from you when NPCs are talking at you.

I know a lot of people love the riverboat and driving sequences in HL2, but I just don't like them. They feel like a chore every time I have to do them, and I've never been a waifu-fag, so Alex does nothing for me other than "oh great, another NPC to babysit".

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>>389102130
>u

>>389111120
>it wasn't hard whatsoever
You should've played on Hard Mode then, son.

>>389104602
Here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpCv12q6fFI

Of all the games to be "the Catcher in the Rye of video games," why is it HL2?

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>>389115547
did you play on console? I replayed all 3 for the most part on hard and the only hard part I really recall was Ravenholm when you get swarmed by the fast zombies, episode 1 in the dark parts and episode 2 when you have to take out the fucking striders and those damn hunters.

Half-Life should have utilized different combat situations, the parts with no light were fun in Episode 1 and Ravenholm creeped me the fuck out when I first played on the Orange Box

>>389083710
because MUH GAYBEN XD
It's a shit tier fps with some neat physics and amazing sound design.

>>389115938
Did you? I recently replayed HL2 and EP1. The dark parts of Episode One were not a problem at all. The strider fight, however, was stupidly hard. As was most of the strider encounters in Anticitizen One and Follow Freeman. My deaths dotted all around the game, as it should, but the Ravenholm setpiece wasn't that hard. The shotgun combines will two-shot. I don't know what to say. Maybe you just play too defensively, since you had the most trouble with events that throw enemies AT you.

>>389092605
I heard that if you set up a combine vs resistance fight and spectate the A.I. behaves wonderfully.

>>389097151
sigh.. could you please just off yourself already? you do this every thread.

>>389115627
No this guy again. This supah angry kid getting all >:( over every single detail is pretty shallow criticism. His tone really conveys how narrow-minded his analysis is. You should be able to tell right away that maybe a writer has his head up his ass if he feels the need to swear like a sailor every other sentence.
>This is the end. My thesis statement for this whole angry manifesto so far: Half-Life 2 is either a good reboot or a bad sequel. There is no denying that the game is fun and interesting and well made at certain points.
The rest of his points are half-hearted nitpicks, like, "oh man whaaat's with the weapon selection being so similar? why aren't there five dozen different guns bloating the weapon pool?"
Someone at Valve remembered the microwave thing from the first game. "Hey, wouldn't it be funny if we had a callback?" they think. "Sure," says a writer. Everyone without an ulcer who gets the reference just moves on. This guy's response is https://youtu.be/mpCv12q6fFI?t=25m51s like Whoa Buddy. In short the maker of the video misses the point of pretty much everything because of how testy and short-sighted he gestates everything. He has a bizarre idea of what a sequel has to be and despises growth on all fronts. It doesn't help he sounds like a 15 year old.
He vehemently babbles that HL2 had a lack of environmental storytelling-- what the fuck? are you joking? Do you take this seriously?
His last words are "Still pretty good though!" so maybe you might want to link to something that actually argues it is bad instead of, "Not as good as HL1!!"

>>389115627
>14 years old
>curses more than a sailor

no thank you

>>389118681
But anon, swearing makes you seem cool and mature.

>>389118840
so does smoking and flipping off your parents

>>389100785
I love Breen quotes.

>>389100884
>>389084026
>if you like hl1 better than 2 you are underage
what

>>389118374

People go on about how they work in groups and flank and shit but I'm pretty sure that's just projection. The AI seems to only want to do four things; shoot at the enemy, move towards the enemy, stand behind cover and not bunch together. So, for example, where someone might think they see advanced flanking tactics what is actually going on is the AI agent thinks he's too close to two other agents and so he decides to move to the nearest point of cover in the direction of the enemy and that just happens to be slightly to the left of them. It wasn't a deliberate flanking, that's just a coincidence.

>>389083710
this reads like a breencast, fuck off breen

>>389108939
It's literally the symbol of the core you need to stabilize.

>>389116562
That's because you don't understand how striders work. Only the last few shots in their burst do any damage. The initial shots don't, they're just "hey I see you, get into cover" indicator.

Striders are boring and stupid.

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>>389120620
the core was just a mini dyson sphere

>>389103630
Disagree with all that f it

HL2 is great. Get over it

>>389096829
l4d3 is plausible, considering how many leaks we have gotten it's pretty likely.
Literally no reason for them to make another Dota.
A new TF in an already class-based-shooter market? nah.

My guess is that it will be
>L4D3
>HL3
>A completely new series

>>389110512
>SOTN
>one of the greatest games


And this is the taste of people who say half life is bad

>>389121005
your mom is a mini dyson sphere

actually, forget about the "mini" part

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>>389121708
mama didn't deserve this

>>389120719
All the bosses are lame. At least they don't go full retard like with HL1's final boss baby.

>>389121584
hl2 is not half life

>>389121584
hl2 > hl1
sotn sorta sucks
rondo and cv3 are where it's at

>>389084026
Not him but I'm 28 and I think Half-life 2 is pretty average and in no way special.

>>389121849
Striders aren't bosses, you fight like what, 7-9 during the HL2 events? 2 or 3 at the nexus square, one chases you later, there's like 3 in the end and maybe one more in-between?

Also Nihilanth was cool as fuck.
>mfw one of his attacks teleports you to various cool combat scenarios
>always make sure to get hit by it

>>389122994
They're like minibosses, which are bosses. Big, important enemies that have a lot of health. A boss.

>>389122895
you don't like Bloodlines?
I mean that mirror gimmick level is kinda shit

>>389123178
arguing about definitions of words is the most boringest shit ever, man

I won't even use proper capitalization for this reply

>>389090531

Half-Life 2 is really a product of masterful execution more than anything else. Half-Life 1 did most of the innovating, while Half-Life 2 was all about contextualizing it in a completely physics-driven world. The gravity gun's sole purpose for existing is to give the player the maximum involvement with the physics engine, creating scenarios for the player to overcome the game's challenges, creating opportunities for the player to invent new methods of completing challenges, and of course to show off Source. The game is otherwise quite linear, but the variety in environments, weapons, enemies, and puzzles keeps the game fresh up until the very end. Compared to Half-Life 1, which only had various departments of Black Mesa + Zen, HL2 was a huge step forward, and still stands as one of the best examples of pacing in a game of its scope.

Half-Life 2's own innovations have had pieces lifted and put to use in other games. Call of Duty 4's campaign is definitely inspired by Half-Life 2's scripted sequences, while others would take similar approaches to contextualizing the use of a physics engine, like most recently Zelda: Breath of the Wild with the Sheikah Slate playing a major role in world interaction.

To answer your question as briefly as possible: The physics engine was a huge leap forward because HL2 proved how it can change a game that could otherwise have lived without it for the better, on top of already being an incredible well-made game in general.

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What did Half-Life 2 do that Halo 2 didn't better. (Outside of physics)

>>389123503
>Call of Duty 4's campaign is definitely inspired by Half-Life 2's scripted sequences
have you ever played original Call of Duty? or the second one?

>>389123521
being interesting

>>389123554

Yeah, but I figured 4 would've been the best example to pull from given how more people are familiar with that one in particular, not to mention nearly all the biggest moments in that game featured some degree of control over, whether it was limping out of a helicopter or pulling a trigger.

>>389123521
had unskippable cutscenes

>>389123521

Single-player.

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>>389123817
Opposed to unskippable standing and waiting. This was done before in HL 1, not to mention Halo 2 does the environmental storytelling as well.

>>389124136
I love Halo 2, but to say it did anything signifigant with its environmental storytelling is generous at best. The most interesting parts of H2's maps were the parts you weren't even supposed to get to.

In early 2000s you had these sort of low texture games, unmovable objects, bad physics and things.

Half Life 2 introduced the currently best engine what made the player avaliable to drop, move and throw objects, the game looked stunning, story was great, animations and face animations were stunning and the balanced gameplay.

Millenial degenerates on /v/ only hate it because they are braindead and comparing it to modern games.

>>389123773
>but I figured 4 would've been the best example to pull from given how more people are familiar with that one in particular
The best example of what? Both of those games came out before HL2 (after HL1, though) and featured those cinematic moments. The way CoD uses those not-cutscenes is really very different from the way HL2 does.

>>389094547
>*clicks*
>HELLO YOUTU-
>*closes*

>>389123521
mouselook

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Just finished playing through Half-Life 1
>G-Man says you can keep the HEV suit during Half-Life 1 ending
>No HEV suit on during the beginning of Half-Life 2
Where did the suit go and how did Kleiner get another HEV suit after Black Mesa?
Also, was Gordon teleported straight into the future or was he in stasis?

>>389124595

>The way CoD uses those not-cutscenes is really very different from the way HL2 does.
I'm aware of this, but I'm saying HL2 set the standard for interactive story sequences quite high and CoD4 is an example of a game that recognizes this and attempts to meet these standards in its own way. It's mostly doing what it always did, granted, but I don't think it'd have been the same game without HL2 around. Certainly the most impressive moments may not have happened or they'd be dialed back to just purely observing them.

>>389086952
That fucking hug

>>389123521
Better jump puzzles, more interesting enemies, better health system

Halo always reminds me of Unreal Tournament, except if you slowed the speed and gravity to 50%, then simplified everything

Half Life 2 disappointed me because I felt Half Life 1 was more fun to play and I was spoilt by Max Payne 2 around the same time and years before Deus Ex for different reasons.

But to complain about its graphics and pretend there's no great environmental storytelling in Half Life 2? Fuck off, you underaged retards.

>>389083710
The lip sync and animations were way ahead of it's time, gunplay was tight and the environments and enemies changed enough to keep it enjoyable.

>>389124997

G-Man more than likely gave Kleiner the suit, since its heavily implied to be the same one he wore in Black Mesa, same goes for Barney and the crowbar.

I don't know how far into Half-Life 2 you are, but some characters make remarks of Gordon not changing too much since they've last seen him. Maybe the dude got a night of sleep at the most before starting 2.

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>>389124339
First don't get me wrong I enjoyed HL2. But looking back I feel like enjoyed Halo 2 more. Perhaps I'm letting my subjective opinion get the better of me but I can't help but feel something's felt better in it. I felt the overall gameplay felt better, and while HL 2 had solid level design that rarely left me looking for where to go, Halo does a great job there too. Music was great in both; and while at the core the stories both involve alien invaders; I felt like Halo had more depth to it. They both have issues with levels dragging on at times I will admit. I know I'm comparing two shooters with fundamental differences but they're pretty alike. They both present a sci fi shooter that can go from tightly designed levels to open sandboxes with vehicles. Halo 2 seems to achieve similar things to HL2. Am I missing something else (aside from the physics) that make HL 2 so much more revolutionary in people's eyes when its contemporaries were doing the same things?

>>389125020
I'm sorry but I don't see it. HL2 did the thing HL1 did and CoD did the thing CoD did, only they arguably did it better.

HL1 was revolutionary with its abundance os scripted sequences (which CoD 4 didn't even try to match, being a very different game). HL2 just did the same thing with newer tech.

>>389125212
>G-Man more than likely gave Kleiner the suit

fuck outta here with that shit. He doesn't even look like him

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Black Mesa is so comfy.

>>389124997
G-man prob dropped it somewhere or kleiner to find.

>>389125061
I like you anon.

>>389123521
art, graphics, sp level design, sound design, modding tools, cheat codes, use of music, writing, puzzles, controls, optimization(dude vista lmao), multiplayer(dude xbla gold lmao)(dude we axed support so you can't play it no more lmao), The Shotgun, atmosphere, etc

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>want to replay half-life
>remember this thing exists

>>389124997
>was Gordon teleported straight into the future or was he in stasis?
is there a meaningful difference?

>>389083710
PC virgins overrated this game because they couldn't get the actual goats that were being released exclusively on ps2 around that time.

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>>389087252
Serious Sam pretty much invented detail-textures, and used them for some impressive up-close details on things.

>>389127327
>impressive

>best physics gimmicks (and first game to really have it)
>best general artstyle of any game ever, Antonov is a genius
>solid sound design
>one of the few games that managed the "cinematic" thing, the pacing is well calculated alternating slow sequences, nothing happening sequences, pure action, ...
>facial animations
>infinitely moddable
>level design
>lots of memorable moments
Really the main thing is that HL2 is one of the very few games that tops both raw gameplay and muh atmosphere.

>>389125238
> I felt like Halo had more depth to it.
Halo 2 is a good game but the game's storytelling is poor. Sure they both involve alien invaders, like Twilight and Dracula both involve vampires.

>>389126783
honestly this

>>389128071
They were back in 2001, and even in 2005 people on forums were wondering how the hell they did that when even Doom3 and HL2's textures looked worse up close.

>>389125238
HALO was always slow and empty as fuck with no feel of urgency or threat. I never understood why people praise HALO at all, and still don't. It's literally slower and more streamlined than motherfucking Goldeneye 007. Zero replay value and nothing memorable whatsoever.

I tried playing hl series as a kid-hated it,tried playing it in 2005-hated it,and i tried it again a year ago-still cant seem to like it. But the portal games i absolutely adore.

>>389083710
I prefer HL1 but HL2 was something that was very good as an overall package, the elements of the game meshed extremely well together, even if they individually were done arguably better by other games. It's one of the few games where even today you can still reasonably enjoy it for its atmosphere, its level design and gameplay without compromising the other.

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i find most of the people who hate HL2 grew up in the xbox 360 era, so most of the stuff that HL2 did so well just seems like commonplace shit to them

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>me

>>389128497
...except it doesn't look good. It would look better without the detail. I'd rather smash my face against a wall in HL2 than Serious Sam.

>>389129273
>..except it doesn't look good
Clearly a subjective thing. But things NOT turning into smudgy shit, but actually looking like a rough, rocky wall even when literally licking the surface, was and still is pretty fucking revolutionary.

>>389096737
Unreal 1 did every HL1 gets credit for first.