Behold the trinity of the only western RPGs that matter this decade

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Inaccurate. Here's the true list.

PS: Open world trash is so shit it's not even worth listing.

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>>389082689
>Witcher
>RPG
This meme needs to end

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>>389082689
I would hardly put W3 in the same category as Underrail and DOS, despite liking it as well.

>>389082947
>PoE in great
>DOS in ok
>Tyranny in shit

Explain

>>389082689
The Witcher 3 is eastern european you retard

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>>389082689
>cd projekt
>western

>obsidian finally gets the chance to make their own fantasy IP
>it's the most boring, rancid piece of shit ever

>>389082947
Your top 3 are good, but Legend of Grimrock being better than Tyranny or Torment? Nah.

>>389082947
>pillars of eternity
Garbage movement controls

>>389082689
i enjoyed Tyranny more that POE

>>389083745
They played it way too safe.

>>389082689
>TW3
not with that awful combt

Redpill me on Underrail.
I have been looking for an RPG to get into.
Does it have good writing? Meaningful choices? Good character building?
I liked Divinity: OS, but it is easy to get fatigued playing it; there is just way too much.
Pillars of Eternity should be my favorite game ever on paper, but I dropped it around 12 hours in and it left such a bad taste in my mouth I never went back. Is Tyranny really as shit as they say? An evil themed RPG sounds amazing.

>>389084415
I've tried getting into Tyranny, I really have. But there is something that just isnt there for me, I can't get interested in the game or the lore or builds.

PoE is a bit of a mixed bag for me. I enjoy a lot of the quest, most of the characters,. But I don't care much for the world lore, While I have a thing for psyionics, I just don't think Chipers fit,. And bards, a staple and fun class, gets transformed into boring chanters, I miss the old bards.
PoE is so much better looking than Tyranny. I didn't realise how much I missed those old pre-rendered backgrounds. I absolutely love stuff like that.

Thread song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcEPS0iatQI

>>389085448
From what I hear, it has a great charcter creation, a lot of choice of how you want to do stuff, two different ways of getting xp (exploring or killing mods, which is fantastic)
The writing is the bare minimun, it's not great, from what Ive heard, but ok. But nothing to play the game for.

>witcher 3
>good

>>389082689
>Witcher3
>Good rpg

Fuck off, its an allright action adventure game, but as an rpg its a disaster. Two Worlds 2 is a better rpg than W3.

>>389085448
>Does it have good writing?
It's alright, but Underrail is not a game with heavy focus on story.

>Meaningful choices?
Above average. Some only for ending slides, but there are several that impact the game itself too.

>Good character building?
Very much yes. Character building along with combat are two of the game's cornerstones. And since you only control one character your build choice has a huge impact on what you'll be able to do.

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>>389086445
Thanks lads.
I can handle the game having a bare minimum style story as long as the gameplay holds up.

>>389086792
Then there's a good chance you are going to love it.

Of all the games pictured ITT one studio may still be around in 10 years.
That is from Govt subsidies and GoG money propping them up.

Shit lists for shit tastes.

>>389084613
>rpg
>ever having good combat

how new r u

Never made it past the character create screen in UnderRail, I could never settle on what build I wanted. Watched so many videoes about builds, but never settled on what I wanted to play.

Underrail has shit pacing story and gameplay wise. I couldn't give a shit about the story too.

>>389082947
I like it actually

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>>389087110
Larian is doing fine and Obsidian is recovering, what's your point?

>>389087383
I usually recommend magic to anyone who can't decide on a build for themselves. It's less restrictive than going with a weapon type, and very forgiving when it comes to character building, no matter what type of wizard you are building. Very new player-friendly but still extremely satsifying to play.

>>389088074
Both had to KS the sequel to their flagship IP.
Let that sink in then re read whet you posted.

The only real option open to you is to try and claim it is a good thing they are begging for money yet again.
It isn't a good one but it is the best you have.

>>389088105
I usually go for sneaky lockpick/charisma/hacking builds with combat as secondary, I remember a trapping build that apparently worked great, but I enver had much fun with setting traps and stuff in games like Baldurs Gate etc.

I might try to start up the game anew soon.
Thanks for the info, none the less.

>>389088359
>Both had to KS the sequel to their flagship IP.
would these games get made without a KS campaign? Both were in full development already.
>>389087383
Trapper + Crossbow is a fun combo

>>389088863
Keep in mind that it is a combat focused game, so a build completely focused on stealth/hacking/lockpicking/charisma can really struggle, you should atleast have one strong combat focus.

>>389088863
Stealth in this game is really good and definitely something you can build around, just keep in mind that there will be situations where stealth alone won't be enough, and also that traps is a support skill instead of a primary combat skill, even though you can be a pure trapper for most of the game. Just have a back up plan for those situations where it won't be enough.

There was an anon who did a pacifist (excluding the few mandatory fights) stealth run, so it's definitely doable. But for a new player I expect it would be a very frustrating experience.

>>389089657
>>389089079
>>389088946
Thanks for all the input. So, let's say I roll stealth and some non-combat stuff, which weapon would work best? Unless melee is really good with stealth, Id prefer something ranged.

>>389083228

I'm not him but I agree with him:

>PoE in great

In spite of its flaws and fairly dull main plot it feels way better to play than anything else on that list.

>Tyranny in shit

It was pretty terrible in terms of story and characters. And the bastardized elder scrolls leveling system was worse than PoE's totally-not-DnD system.

>DOS in okay

navigating environments feels so clunky and awful it isn't funny. There's no speeding up movement either so it takes forever to get from one place to another. The combat animations take too long and the jokes fall flat.

>>389082689
>new vegas
>under rail

>relevant

fucking kek the delusion.

>>389090171
Basically anything goes with stealth, but nothing goes as well with it as sniper rifles.

>>389090185
>Reddit spacing
>thinks PoE is a good game while shitting on D:OS

Neo-/v/.

>>389082947
Is Shadowrun Returns really that bad? I bought the trilogy but haven't got around to playing them.

>>389087282
>implying it has good rpg.

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>>389090296
They are the only good ones

>>389091131
How autistic are you?

>>389091216
autistic enough to get a new fuckdate on tinder every month, you :)?

name one good western RPG thats not in the trinity above

>>389090831
Returns is bad. But, DF and HK are both good, no clear consensus on the best one, but HK is more refined.
I prefer HK for sisequests, music, combat and companions. In any case, they're both worth playing. I'd skip returns unless they did some major changes to it since I last played it, which was around launch. Still got a sour taste in my mouth

>>389090815

>reddit spacing
>not a nu-/v/eddit forced meme

>>389091357
>Muh dick
He's a nigger too

>>389091357
Baldurs gate 2, planescape torment, Deus Ex, vampire tm bl, kotor2

>>389090987
>trying this hard to be contrarian
Neck yourself lad

>>389091357
Pillars of eternity

>>389091357
doesn't count when its your sister

>>389091665
The point of this thread is this decade, not 200 classics anon, so let me rephrase

name one good western RPG thats not in the trinity above released this decade

>>389091880
Name one good western rpg

>>389091990
halo 3

>>389091880
Wasteland 2 is a great game, Pillars of Eternity and Tyranny are good.

DIV:OS 2 soon fuckers.

I can't believe they actually made skeletons more than just a race skin and gave them exclusive gameplay mechanics.

>>389083745
Obsidian has never made a good game so I don't know why you're surprised.

>>389091357
Fallout 3

>>389092471
>any Bethesda RPG

kill yourself retard

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>>389092567
But it's the best in the series.

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>TFW too brainlet to get into crpgs

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>>389092234
Have a wallpaper.

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>>389092717
Fallout 3 actually won an award for writing when it came out, what the fuck was wrong with people back then?

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>>389092916
If the Japanese can play it, so can you.

>>389092717
>fallout 1 that high
I mean it is the best in the series but I didn't realize normies even played it.

>>389093075
Those scores are mostly how well the game runs more than anything, new vegas was a buggy mess and it crashed a lot when it was first released.

>>389093075
Actually 3 is better.

>>389091420
I thought it was overall agreed that dragonfall was better written while HK had better combat?

>>389093218
Keep telling yourself that.

>>389093059
Maybe the NV hive mind just doesn't know what they are talking about.

>>389093059
it was exactly the sort of story critics loved back then, easy enough they didn't actually need to play a lot of the game to get it but pseudo-intellectual enough they didn't look like retards for endorsing it

entertainment awards are virtually never given to deserving entries, just look at the academy awards

>>389082947
>RTWP party management simulators anywhere but shit tier
No.

>>389093341
In fallout 3 you can convince the villain to kill himself with a single speech check that tells him to kill himself for some reason.

To compare in Fallout 1 you do so by having evidence to even get the option where you pretty much tell the guy his plan will never work (which is true)

>>389093561
he is fishing for replies don't bother

>>389093561
So? Fallout 1 is a great game.

>>389093546
poor brainlet

>>389093679
So when you post do you hope that people won't reply? Weird.

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>>389093546
what did he mean by this

>>389082947
Grimrock isn't much of an RPG though. Also I really like Grimoire.

>>389093561
It's a bit of a shame that anyone with a good enough speech or barter skill can get the Legate to withdraw in NV
should have at least included having to get a few documents or so proving that the conquest of the NCR would be unsustainable, there were enough quests in the game that could have logically contained such items.

That said, at least "you're overextending to far for your infrastructure and society to handle, even if you win the war you'd lose the peace" is a significantly more valid argument than "you're a computer, you should just kill yourself"

>>389093738
>>389093867
>t. that guy who wants to tell everyone at the table how to play and build optimally

>>389094006
Also the fact that you need 100 speech or barter do so.

>>389090185
>There's no speeding up movement either so it takes forever to get from one place to another. The combat animations take too long
These are both 100% true and D:OS is one of my favorite games. I'd kill for an emulator-like turbo button because of just how much time it takes to get around.

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>>389094097
RPGs are literally about character building, if you don't build an optimal character you are playing the game wrong

>>389094283
>RPGs are literally about character building
RPGs are about playing a role, you dunce.

>>389086792
honestly Underrail's narrative isn't all that bad, story is fairly basic sure but there's a good number of interesting moments
but the way the game is built up makes it very much possible to miss half the story and characters if you don't take your time to explore, because the mandatory characters tend to be quite obtuse when it comes to handing out information.

Character known as Six is fairly notorious for giving you 10 questions for every answer, and being a cryptic fuck about said answers.

>>389090831
>>389091420

Isn't it that DF and HK were so much better?
Shadowrun returns was cool, unless you played the latter two.

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>>389091357
once a month.
nigga you fucking suck at tinder

>>389094378
you can roleplay in any game though, rolling your THAC0 against the enemy's AC is playing an RPG

>>389094159
IIRC the barter check is only 90, because the barter check is about spelling the cold hard truth out to him, which in turn Lanius respects a lot more than the speech check version

which is a neat little touch

>>389094601
Barter check is also 100.

>>389094551
>>389094283
Optimization implies knowing in advance what will actually be useful in the first place. You're just being a munchkin faggot.

>>389094494
I just don't live in a big city m8
also if it was anymore I'd be afraid of STDs.

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>>389094776
>munchkin
don't you mean grognard Mr Sawyer?

>>389082689
The Witcher 3 doesn't fit there at all.

>>389082947
imagine having an opinion this bad

>>389083489
western= not asian

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>>389082689
>>389082947
Superior list.

I wanted to give underrail a try but is afraid of fucking up. I liked FO1, PoE, and Might and Magic 10 and it looked like a game I might enjoy.

>>389097738
A list on /v/ I can 100% stand behind? This has to be a first.

>>389082947
Pillars is the worst game on this list. It's colorless, tasteless, samey, and mediocre. There's absolutely nothing about it worth recommending.

>>389098545
wrong

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>>389097738
I actually agree with this list.

>>389098419
No need to worry about that, the stories about builds hitting brick walls are awfully exaggerated. In almost every case it's either someone being bad at playing what they built and then blaming the build for it, or someone giving in to their minmaxing urges so they reroll to correct the suboptimal decisions they made. That, or the occasional guy who tries to play a jack of all trades despite warnings that it's not a good idea.

If you don't care all that much about minmaxing, and practice basic common sense, rerolling won't be necessary at all.

So Underrail is good?

>>389099021
It's undeniably good, but it's just as undeniably a niche game that not everyone will enjoy.

>>389099021
It's my personal favorite RPG to come out in years. It scratches an itch I've had ever since STALKER 2 got canceled as strange as it sounds. Gameplay wise they're night and day difference, but all the exploration and customization of equipment and all the different builds you can make ends up making the game super fun to just keep replaying.

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>>389082689
>shoehorning Witcher and n
Nu /v/egas in there
Holy fuck

>>389097738
It's missing Dead State.

>>389099106
This sums it up.

I was really fucking excited for it, but ended up dropping it at Depot A. Still can't say it's bad, it just wasn't what I wanted.

is underrail really that good

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>>389090185
>the jokes fall flat
Nigga, if you didn't laugh out loud at the asshole statue's prediction of your future, you're the one that's flat.

>>389098545
>It's colorless
No, it's beautiful

>tasteless
The fuck does this even mean? It's offensive? Either ways, you're wrong.

>samey
Nope, lots of variety, even if there are too many trash encounters

>mediocre
It's great. It belongs on top of the modern CRPGs.

>>389099875
>The fuck does this even mean?
The same thing he meant by colorless, samey, and mediocre - that nothing stands out, nothing is memorable. Uninspiring. Forgettable. Bland.

>>389100832
The great art, interesting world, fun + tragic companions and cool villain stand out. It's the most memorable modern RPG, as far as I'm concerned.

>>389101047
Well, take it up with him, not me. I'm just translating.

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>>389082947
>Isometric nostalgia fags
>Lol they're the only games that matters
>Being this close-minded

>>389091420
>Returns is bad. But, DF and HK are both good

all three games are near identical

>>389082689
All these games are garbage compared to Trails of Cold Steel, Nier Automata, and Persona 5

>>389101390
Nothing nostalgic about isometric. It's objectively the most surefire way to make your game look great.

>>389102148
Yawn

>>389102245
the moment you threw objectively in there is when you invalidated everything