Randy Pitchford: OUR GAME SUCKS BECAUSE GRAPHICS ARE HOLDING IT BACK

so make a fucking game that's fun then, literally nobody cares about graphics. see minecraft, nintendo games, etc.

>art style determines success

Yeah that's totally it.

This fucking studio needs a new lead. Jesus fucking Christ.

>>389080857
>Implying Minecraft wouldn't be more successful with better graphics

>pulled of the artstyle because they were in deep shit to be able to release B1
>it became successful thanks to that
>try another game with a different artstyle
>the blunder of the century
>"art style is the problem!"
there is no end to this

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You mean the artsyle they ripped off from Codehunters?

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>>389080683
>Going back and shitting on the first game, i.e. the only good game in the series
I fucking hate this guy so goddamn much.

>>389080683
>Borderlands
>Comic book artstyle
>Fits the setting of a dystopian planet
>Although not the best at first eventually grows on you
>A good game

>Battleborn
>Tries to go in a different direction as to not just be borderlands tf2
>fails horribly, the artstyle is disgusting
>Dead fucking game
Why is this guy a CEO of anything what the fuck.

Didn't Randy once say that Overwatch was technically a failure because it failed to sell a billion units or something?

>>389081047
except it wouldn't. the main appeal of minecraft is that it runs on anything including phones. make it graphically intensive and you lost a major market.

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What? That's not it. THAT'S NOT IT AT ALL RANDY.

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Randy Pitchfork strikes again.

>tfw no hope left for BL3

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>>389080683

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He should make HL3

>>389081047
Minecraft is so successful it's getting kids hooked on retarded block porn

Better graphics couldn't do that

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THIS FUCKER WAS BOASTING ABOUT THE SAME FUCKING GRAPHICS BACK IN MAY WITH THAT TECH DEMO SAYING THIS IS WHAT BORDERLANDS 3 WILL PROBABLY LOOK LIKE

WHEN WILL THIS MAN DIE

ive never seen one man so fucking delusional, like yea we've some winners like Phil and maybe some liars like Todd but jesus christ Randy.

I loved the art style from the get go.
Not sure what this nigger is on about.
Also, did people not like BL2?

Does he mean the art style that he blatantly ripped off?

How is Gearbox still in business?

>>389081893
BL2 was written by a literal cuck, and it shows.

>>389081584
>the main appeal of minecraft is that it runs on anything
You are mentally challenged.

>>389081893
These games have put me to sleep faster than handjob from my mother.

They had a fucking chance before BL1 came out, I remember the original article for BL1 in game informer had it looking much more realistic before they decided "lol cel-shaded"

>>389081989
How so?

>>389081893
BL2 was objectively inferior to BL1 due to horrendous script direction and weapon changes which made BL1 a diamond in the rough.

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>>389082029
I still have beta screenshots.

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>>389082056
Anon, is this your first day on /v/?

>>389082194
I much prefer the stylistic approach. It would have just blended in with all of the other brown shooters at the time.

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>>389082194
Well not screenshots but images rather.

>tfw Roland used to be white

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>>389082315
That was their reasoning behind stealing the codehunters artstyle anyway, because everything at the time looked exactly the same. The cel shaded look set it aside from the rest.

>>389082218
At least.
I'm not.
Anthony Burch.

>>389082315
I have faith it would've stood out regardless because it was an idea that wasn't done before

The whole diablo-esque thing as an FPS anyway

>>389080683
maybe you shouldn't have stole it then

>>389082218
Seems like dumb reason not to like Borderlands.

>>389081447
BL1 has no content at all.

>>389081447
until this post I thought he was talking about battleborn

>>389081990
if that's not the main appeal then what is?

>>389082702
Borderlands 1 is fine and some of 2's DLC is ok.

It's just a fact that Anthony Burch is laughable.

Wut? Borderlands does have issues, but one of the few things Gearbox did right was the visual style of those games.

Hell, battleborn looked way worse because it did not have any real unifying art style, and just looked like a hodgepodge of different things.

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>>389080683
>an ageless, good looking, low hardware demand art style is limiting Borderlands
>not the continuing downward spiral of the quality of its optimization, gameplay, mechanics, story, characters, and reputation of Gearbox itself for being such faggots with other IP

Really doodles muh noodle.

>>389082003
I've always enjoyed handjobs from your mother

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>>389082702
I love Borderlands 1. I hate Borderlands 2 because of the absolutely horrible fucking writing, along with the terrible weapon balance. TPS isn't AS obnoxious as BL2 was, but it's pretty fucking close.

>>389083042
She can top us both off at the same time if you're interested. Just ask her.

i was gonna make a big gay blogpost about borderlands but yeah, Randy is dumb.

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>>389080683
what's with his face? his puffy red face looks like your average alcoholic

>>389083096
What was so bad about Borderlands 2 story?
I found TPS 'story' to be totally shallow and hard to get invested in. Subjective, though. Also too Australian.

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>>389080683
What a literal retard.

>hey guys Battleborn has porn t-too!
>fat cow of a wife
>fedora wearing bastard child
>Duke Nukem Forever was shit
>Colonial Marines was shit
>repackaged Bulletstorm which was actually a good game but People Can Fly didn't make a sequel so Randy and his retards have rights
>Borderlands only good thing is a bad thing in this retards opinion

I prefer 2's gameplay and could put up with the shit memes/story with friends.

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>>389083351
>>What was so bad about Borderlands 2 story?
Are you a Redditor by any chance?

>>389083207
thats the face of a greasy untrustworthy scumbag

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>>389081893
Hated borderlands 2, took everything about 1 and just vomited it back.
>The writing
>Throwing a fucking joke on everything when it wasn't necessary
>Putting in pop-culture references every minute
>The retarded scaling on enemies
>How the new vault hunters were similar to the last ones
Oh boy another siren, soldier, and assassin with a strong meat shieldish character. It wasn't until the DLC that they made new vault hunters
The only thing they changed was how edgy shit is, from the start you learn that the villain kills a bunch of people from voice logs and this continues on for the rest of the game.
The villain is also one of the worst things in this game, you are CONSTANTLY reminded of him every second "haha i'm a dick" "hey remember that i'm the bad guy xd" "BUTTSTALLION LOL" "I'M AN ASSHOLE" Every. Fucking. Minute. Being a repetitive annoyance doesn't make you an interesting character.

Didn't Randy steal the art style from some freelance artist?

>>389083351
Jack was literally the only good thing because he was a prick doing things wrong things for the right reasons and the humor was full on retarded.

>>389083621
Everything bad about Jack is the doings of Anthony Burch. Everything good about Jack is the improv of his voice actor.

>>389083621
>The villain is also one of the worst things in this game
The villain is one of the best things about the game, and the first game doesn't even have one.

>>389081447
I unironically prefer the world of BL1 to BL2

>>389082685
This.
Fuck you Randy.

>>389083838
Almost like the first game didn't need a villain because you were just some dipshit vault hunter that wanted loot. The villains and stories didn't get going until the DLCs, which they were great.

>>389083890
You aren't alone.

>>389080683
Haha he just likes attention and says whatever to try and not look like an idiot but it doesn't work lol

>>389080683
He's stress eating guys :/

I never liked Borderlands. I didn't like the teen humor and the cell shading that I usually love actually prevented me from playing it and I'm not really sure why.

>>389083838
That's the good thing about the 1st one though, you don't need a main villain because the entire planet is trying to kill you. Everyone's a massive threat and you're just a merc looking for weapons, money, and fame.

How the fuck does this guy still have his job?

>>389084115
>Everyone's a massive threat
Uhhh no, it's Borderlands we're talking about.

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>>389080857
>so make a fucking game that's fun then
He did. You assholes memed it to death.

>>389084226
story wise not gameplay wise, I mean you've got bandits, wildlife, hungry corporations and ancient angry guardians stopping you from your goal.
You get help from some of the people who aren't completely insane (or are atleast friendly) but everythings put against you.

>>389084159
He's the boss, so he'll have a job as long as the company doesn't completely die.

>>389084226
There's a lot of enemies in the early game that'll fuck up your day. Like those monsters in that cave where you have to get those lightning crystals.

>>389080683
What Randy is saying is they fucked up and borderlands 3 should be a total let down.

>>389080683
Link?

>>389084241
>blatantly shilling porn because nobody plays this shit and the only reason anyone plays Overwatch is because of porn

TF2 didn't deserve this shit.

>>389084241
>memed it
It got unlucky because overwatch was around the corner and the game looked awful, there's nothing memey about it.

>>389083351
Burch retconed Hyperion's in-setting respawn service.
For the purposes of Tragic Character Death, it doesn't exist.
Also BL1 was bleak and had darkly humorous bits, generally serious throughout.
BL2, like Saints' Row 3, was too damn wacky but relied even more heavily on reference humour.

>>389081047
yeah an playmobil is more successful than lego. dream on tard.

>>389084241
It was almost there but there was Too much wrong with it to be a good game.
>terrain and minion collision everywhere
>cards just being annoying to use
>mostly bad character designs
>Not enough variation in multiplayer
I think a lot of the mechanics and gameplay were fun but it was far from a great game.

>>389080857
Everyone was complaining about the artstyle. I'm pretty sure if it was standard soldiers it would have sold more and if it was anime girls /v/ would have shilled it.

This isnt 1990 anymore, people are more shallow. They don't care about gameplay, they care about looks. This is why people jerk off Persona and Overwatch and why you have people here dedicated to whining about any game that features dark skin

>>389084241
>directly competing with Blizzard
>directly calling out Blizzard
Death by suicide dude.

>>389084603
That's only because when you get to that cave you're like level 7 and they are level 11, and BL1 has a pretty dumb system where enemies that are higher in level than you are both deal much more damage to you and receive much less.

>>389080683
I can see that being true, today's drooling FPS kids want realism in their graphics, not a unique artstyle

>>389084817
>Also BL1 was bleak
No it wasn't, are you crazy? It was always silly.

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>>389080683
Nigga, when was the last time you heard a corporate admit to financial failure? Their bonuses and stock shares ride on perception of success.

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>>389081703

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>>389082218
>I will never be Anthony Burch
>I will never work with Anthony Burch

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Reminder

>>389083890
>>389083975
I'm glad to know other people feel this way.

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>>389082342
>Axton

>>389085885
do you not realize that majority of people in here would prefer bl1 over 2?

>>389080683
>can't figure out how to code or design properly
>blame the computer
>Meanwhile Rockstar and Nintendo consistently pull off processing magic

This is the dumbest thing ever, their visual art style should allow them to put more effort into dynamic effects, which they already kinda did in bl2 with physx shit. Why not do stuff like full volumetric lighting, more cartoony effects etc. that make the game look more stunning if he cares about graphics.

>>389085914
Its actually Dr. Zed

The reused his character like that original Mordecai there reused as Reaver

>>389084241
>10k+ players drop it like a brick after trying it out in a week of open beta
>M-M-M-MEMERS!
Face it Randolph. Battleborked was a stale, bleached turd.

>>389080683
I have impression that someone managed to somehow convince him that memeland art style is not badass enough, now he just parroting on it.

>>389080683

> Saying this in a world where Minecraft exists

>>389085525
People dying left, right and center.
Even more people trying to kill you.
Mountains of garbage and pollution.
Atlas doing their level best to kill you and steal the fruit of your effort.
Marcus being Marcus.
Zed the unlicensed sawbones.
Tannis the sad, obsessed lunatic.
Shit was a hostile environment, son.

>>389086062
Oh wow that's pretty interesting. Thanks fampai

>>389085979
Rockstar doesn't pull off shit. They shortcut with the models everywhere they possibly can. It's like they have a 3-d efficiency expert firing polygons right and left before a new game releases.

>>389085837
Gearbox is like EA except they are faster

>>389084241
>memed it to death.
You can blame Blunderborn's blunder to Overwatch, they literally trashed Battleborn to death and piss on the grave with double XP week.

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>>389085525
Have you really not played Borderlands 1?

>>389085837
>Vinyl soundtrack
What?

>>389085525
I specifically remember how one of the quest givers hangs himself while you're doing the last quest for him

>>389085525
1 was at least a lot darker in tone than 2.

>>389081838
Gaige was the best girl and best playable character

>>389086465
Murdered by bandits.

>>389086142
>People dying left, right and center.
>Even more people trying to kill you.
>Mountains of garbage and pollution.
>Atlas doing their level best to kill you and steal the fruit of your effort.
>Marcus being Marcus.
>Zed the unlicensed sawbones.
>Tannis the sad, obsessed lunatic.
All in BL2, just replace Atlas with Hyperion, in fact you see and hear about even more brutality. Zed and Marcus are serious characters? Wtf.

>>389086271
>>389086551
I completed it, yeah.

>>389086465
Bandits got him. One thing I did like about BL1 humor is how everybody was comfortable with the idea of death. You investigate that hanged guy's death for Scooter and when you report back he's like "Huh, oh well" even though they're buddies. There's more examples of that in quests.

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>>389084241

>>389082218
Wait is he gay or just a cuck? I don't understand.

>>389086676
>Tannis talking about bacon is the same as Tannis talking about watching skags feast on her fellow crewmates and going insane over the course of months as people around her continue to die until she's the only one left

>>389086676
Zed is a murderer and practices medicine without a license or indeed any training. Unsanitary to boot.
Marcus is probably also a murderer, but he basically tries to rob you or rope you into some shady work every time you interact.
If you think about things beyond the surface detail, Pandora truly is the arsehole of the galaxy.

>>389087160
>Tannis talking about watching skags feast on her fellow crewmates
Go and listen to those logs again, she's talking about how she didn't like that crewmate because she was fat and annoying, about her recorder plotting against her, she's autistic as fuck and only cares about the Vault. It's clearly intended to be funny.

>>389086142
Dude, you're making it sound like it's the intro to MGS 4. It's a silly mad-max game with loot and a tentacle monster.

>>389080683
>Our stolen art style is the reason our games suck!

Randy, to find the problem with Gearbox and its games all you have to do is look into a mirror.

He is the DSP of game developers. A one trick pony that is primarily known for a cavalcade of failures. He will blame everyone and everything else for his own shortcomings. When Borderlands 3 releases he will truly have nothing and despair will set in.

I wonder if Battleborn haunts his dreams

>>389087286
It's played for laughs mostly. Like that town in 2, Overlook whatever, where Jack killed most of the citizens because they refused to obey his silly laws. Pandora is a horrible shithole in both games, but they still are obviously humorous.

>>389087034
Both.

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I remember seeing the original borderlands artstyle way back in a gameinformer article.
I think the new style was the correct choice.

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>>389085837
>game not included
oh wow

>>389087034
Yes.

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>>389087543
I found a page of it
The new style is better for everyone except Lilith

>>389087571
It kind of makes sense. Some people only want the collectible items instead of the game. I've bought collectors edition art books from games I didn't want off eBay.

>>389087747
I can see why they changed Lilith though. She'd look like shit in the new style.

>>389082218
This guy works at Riot Games

>>389087747
The gun kinda looks better in old artstyle. Everything else, not so much.,

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>>389085837
>game not included

>>389082218
https://youtu.be/T2E0Mfx_tug?t=1m17s

>>389082835
Low barrier of entry =/= main appeal. The main appeal is the open sandbox. Minecraft didn't get massively popular because it could run on everything, just like PUBG can't run on everything and has still managed to become massively popular.

Nothing is stopping them from changing the art style in their next release.

>>389084803
>unlucky
They literally publicly challenged Overwatch. There is no "luck" about it.

>>389081838
This might be my favorite piece of BL fan art. Gaige a best.

>>389083351
>What was so bad about Borderlands 2 story?
Good fucking god

>>389081838
So is Tiny Tina a canon lesbian or what?

>>389087747
>>389087885
You dorks. That character model is still in game, its Commandant Steele.

>>389088140
I wonder if the intern that tweeted that is still alive after such a long time on Geabox's dungeon

>>389087835
I guess that's why it's called "collector's set" instead of "collector's addition" but that's fucking retarded. Why buy expensive shit related to a game you have no interest in?

>>389088373
>addition
edition, fuck

>>389086142
Yeah, but the game wasn't attacking you personally, which is what the entirety of BL2 is. It starts when they casually kill of Helena Pierce in an optional audio log, ramps up when they turn the entire cast of 1 into pathetic caricatures (also having them defeated easily off screen by the new bad guy, who also destroys the Underdome, horrifically tortures Tannis and kills Brick's dog) and then goes into overdrive when they kill off Bloodwing and Roland purely for shock value and against all established rules of the setting. The final level being the first level of 1 except decimated by Hyperion's mining operation as a personal fuck you from the villain and presumably from the developers too is just the last bit of salt in the wound.

The whole game is about how much of a stupid piece of shit you are for ever having liked the first one, and the tone is much darker because it just relentlessly shows things and people you'd grown attached to being spitefully crushed by a much more powerful villain who is personally trying to kill you and your friends. Compare to the first one which, while being set in a sort-of-post-apocalypse desert hellhole, at least had kind of an optimistic outlook because it's just you and the wasteland, and the monsters that live in it. There's no pressure beyond the desire to explore the world and progress in the game.

>>389088373
Sometimes they just have cool shit. But also sometimes people might want the game but either can't afford the collectors edition or can't decide if they want it yet.

So later, if they decide they want it or can afford it they can buy it without having to re-buy the game.

>>389080683
jesus you fucking retards have misinterpreted this guy

he's not speaking negatively about the artstyle itself but the MARKET. by "success" he means financial success (e.g. normies buying the game), not quality.

>>389088231
she's a child

>>389080683
>I AM ACTUALLY ILLITERATE AND VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS FACT, the post.

>>389081047
Minecraft is literally one of the most successful games of all time, how the fuck could it be meaningfully be more successful?

>>389087160
Except in 2, you get an audio log of her being horribly tortured by Jack and having the vault key stolen, and it's implied that's why she's even more jumpy and autistic in that one.

>>389088571
That's not a no.

>>389081047
Textures. There's only so much you can do with the blocky appearance of the game. The concept of moving blocks around is the biggest appeal.

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>>389080683
How is this studio afloat? After they burned bridges with colonel marines, last game was a flop. so one more bad game and their done? If its another borderlands it might flop due to fatigue, or a new ip that sucks ass again my. bet is on an older ip.

>>389080683
Just gonna give my opinion: I haven't played any borderlands game, but whenever I see a screenshot from it the art style looks absolutely unappealing to me.
This most likely hasn't changed my decision to buy or not the game - But I'm just gonna say it: The art style is unappealing to me.

>>389080683
Reminder that this is what borderlands was supposed to look like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNwDRLZqqs

>>389088571
Hot

>>389084737
Google.com

>>389082776
It has the main game plus 4 DLC's. Get out of here with that no content shit. They should have just kept expanding on 1 rather than shitting the bed with 2.

>>389089596
>americans

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>>389085334
>This isnt 1990 anymore, people are more shallow.
Phbbbtahhahahahahahahah!

>>389088516
But normies bought these games in droves.

>>389085334
God are you a fucking moron

>>389090268
I foud it funny as well, people always say stuff like that about times before they were born.

>>389090268
>1997 the rise of normals
>package with nearly every NA PS1
>admitting FF7 plays like shit

Proving my point
>>389090490
No, you are a fucking moron!

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>>389082218

Can't go one day without seeing this asshole. He's sure trying to stay relevant after Battleborn.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IPZTRCu664

>>389088372
The "intern who tweeted that" was Randy Pitchfork himself.

>>389080683
I don't know how we're supposed to move on when he keeps doing this shit.
At this point I think Randy just gets off on being bullied and shamed.

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Imagine being Randy in this industry and having to be all like "damn, Battleborn, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your wacky proportions and horrific monster faces. I would totally draw porn of you, both female characters and male." when all he really wants to do is sing another incendiary song in a game con. Like seriously imagine having to be Randy and not only sit in your ample office chair while Battleborn spouts its horrific dialog in front of you, the bigots barely going through all its many issues and shady business model, and just sit there, tweet after tweet, hour after hour, while it's patched to perfection. Not only having to tolerate its monstrous HUD but its faux-badass attitude as everyone on Gearbox tells it's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, BATTLEBORN PLAYS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch fucking gremlin faced characters contort into types of game modes you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been producing nothing but a healthy menu of FPS expansion packs and ports and later alleged Duke Nukem and Alien games for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the liberal boonies in UCLA. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on the desperation as it becomes F2P suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to not pay a dime to sit there and revel in its "hobby-grade (for that is what you call it)" co-op campaign, the campaign worked on so hard by the entire studio in the previous years. And then Burch pitches in another meme attempt, and you know you could kill every single person in the studio before building security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Randy. You're not going to lose your future online feuds over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.

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>>389080683
I mean kinda. Anyone remember the first look at borderlands 1 from GameInformer? It had a real, gritty, kinda Mad Max vibe art style that looked interesting. End result was completely different from what was shown. Odds are they went with a simplified art style in order to make the large world possibe.


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>>389092964
>2007

Where does the time go.

>>389090078
>the main game
Yeah, and that is the no-content zone. Knoxx and Ned are pretty good, though.

>>389080683
sure lets ignore the fact that it released side by side with its vastly superior competitor

and lets ignore the fact that it was nowhere near as well designed as said competitor

it was all the graphics right randy? god, this guy is such an asshole it's insane. worse than casey hudson, worse than peter molyneux

>>389080683
Did blunderborn mind-break him?

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>>389092964
the game looked absolutely nothing like that though

>>389080683
>thought he was referring to battleborn
>reread the title

what the fuck

>>389081893
BL2 ruins the atmosphere, the characters, the leveling, and the loot.

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>>389089596
>Hot

>>389086551
>Revisionism: the post

>>389080683
Art style?

How about the fact that the plot and writin (while not the worse thing I've seen in a shooter) isn't exactly Oscar awarding stuff and other developers have done a better job ofshowcasing the world and its characters than you guys ever could.

Maybe work on the shallow shoot and loot experience and the story and we'll talk about the art style "holding it back"

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>>389087965
how does a nobody youtuber loser like ashly burch have so much power and influence over the industry?

>>389087917
Looks like it was ripped straight out of fallout though.

I'll always appreciate 2 things from borderlands 2.

The DLC characters (especially Kreig who was truly an interesting character to role play as)

And the villain, Handsome Jack and the fact that he's a psychotic and unforgivable, yet also tragic and somewhat relatable.

The rest is meh, the shooting and missions were shallow, the characters and atmosphere (fuck Lilith) are charming enough and the story wasn't the best and yet I think Jack really carried it for me.

>>389082194
>>389082342

I know I'm in the minority here, but this looks way better than >>389081447

I mean yeah it's just generic brown and bloom of the time, but Borderlands "art style" is a fucking ugly eyesore and I've always hated it. I'd unironically prefer some identity less no art style over Borderlands trashy comic book look.

I would be surprised if the series success was in due part to capeshitters thinking it was a le comic book game.

>>389096490
How is Jack relatable and tragic in BL2? The only "tragic" thing that happens to him in that game is Angel being killed, and he'd been abusing her since before they even came to Pandora.

Do you have a daughter or a little sister who you beat the shit out of and use to your own advantage at every oppurtunity?

Graphics were fine?

My only problem was that the black guy was too perfect. It's like, god forbid they give him a flaw because that would be racists.

Ended up being the worst character in the game because of it.

>>389097613
I actually enjoyed it because everything stood out, but not beacuse of just colors. reminded me of XIII, but a bit more line-y loved that fucking game so much.

>>389098156

XIII looked good but something about Borderlands looks fucking terrible. From the very first time I saw that art style I hated it. It reminds me of Dishonored artstyle in that it's about a lack of detail, it's a blurry detailless mess.

>>389096241
Looks nothing like Fallout to me.

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Art style wasn't the reason.
However, the art style was objectively disgusting.

>>389080857
I want to be able to play games without thinking "this looks like shit" the entire time I play. But then again, I like style > graphics.

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he's right about the art style. I mean who wants to play a character that looks like this?

>>389080683
Borderlands would be a smash hit if they made it deeper and allowed a lot more customization. Turn it into a diablo situation and give it frequent updates and sell cosmetic nonsense to take care of investors/server maintenance and you'll be golden.

>>389099525
Blunderborne?

>>389081047
I'm not sure it could be any more successful.

>>389099534
>Borderlands would be a smash hit
Borderlands was a smash hit, though.

>>389099534
You aren't amazed by a little girl that likes killing people?

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>>389082056

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>>389084241
this is such an uncomfortable to look at character design.

>>389096490
There's nothing in BL2 to make Jack tragic in the slightest. Even when they sort of maybe try to make him seem tragic with Angel/his wife the rug is quickly pulled away to see no he's just a jackass who basically assholed one to death and the other into eternally hating him.

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So what's the final verdict, /v/? Would you rather get a good Borderlands game again or get a new blunder so we can keep laughing at Randy?

>>389099776
It's true, but there's also nothing wrong with that.

>>389099863
He's firing bullets bigger than his head. There's cartoony exaggeration, and then there's Battleborn.

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>>389100001
I would rather we just get nothing honestly.

>>389099525
>>389099863
>DUDE ITS LIKE A BADASS CARTOON
>ANIME MEETS PIXAR
Randy approved this art-style and character design he, as usual, has no clue what he's talking about.

Art style > Graphics.

>>389100029
It gets pretty obnoxious after a while. If it was just one or two characters with writing like that, it would be bearable, but most of the cast is like that, and it just kept getting worse and worse for every new thing Gearbox released.

>>389100001
Fail, it's not even laughing at Randy just to laugh at him, he's a genuinely scummy businessman who has shown time and time again to be as out of touch and stupid as he is bad at making good decisions. BL3 needs to fail so Gearbox shuts down and Randy is outed from video games hopefully forever.

their game sucks because they refuse to innovate
and unlike other games that barely innovate between series' games, their gameplay nor their storyline are strong enough to carry the game

I don't mind the graphics I just don't like the style.

>>389099863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDzZbz-YGYs

holy shit they got memepunk band Steam Powered Giraffe (that fucking awful band name tho, yuck) to contribute music to this game.

>Bringin' ass-whoopin's for all his enemies' bums

I am so glad this game is a total failure

>>389100236
Well it's also really exaggerated and not every character in Borderlands is like that. Just, well, half of them?

>>389100526
I think the graphics and style is fine, I just hate the dialogue and story.

>>389090078
The main game was like, 4 hours of content stretched out to 14 hours.

>>389100001
a good Borderlands that still fails due to market fatigue

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>>389100968
>DeadFish
I wish you people would support that shit. His video quality isn't the worst but the audio quality on every DeadFish release I've tried has been bitrate starved tin sounding garbage.

>>389101203
wouldn't*

>>389101442
Is Dougie gone yet?

>>389099776

I have the sudden urge to write a short story in this style and see where it goes.

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>>389099525
What in the fuck is that?

>>389083621
All of this and the changes made to the visual style in 2.

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>>389101559
He's leveled up.

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>>389100001
>good Borderlands game again
>again

>>389085590
I unironically cannot see this guy without devil horns.

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>>389085837
>five hundred and seventeen ramens

>>389080683
Didn't this guy say the only reason the original Borderlands did so well was because of the unique style?

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>>389100001
>Borderlands
>Good

>>389080683
If Battleborn were released as F2P, it would have done much better or not?

>>389102405
not

>>389080857
fpbp /thread

>>389102365
1 was pretty fun, everything else is utter shit.

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>>389080683
It's fucking hilarious to me that he would say this about Borderlands when it's actually happening right fucking now with Battleborn.

Those character designs are probably responsible for more lost sales than anything Blizzard could have possibly done.

>>389080683
BL is such a trash loot game, it's so unrewarding.

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>>389080683
Reminder that Randy is literally on the spectrum.

>>389102405
It needed to be F2P with story missions as DLC on launch.
It should have had FOV and Viewmodel FOV slider (something that still doesn't have, some viewmodels take LITERALLY %80 of your screen and sometimes %100 while in a animation)
It should HAVE NOT BEEN MARKETED AS A OVERWATCH COMPETITOR, WHICH IT IS NOT!

To a certain extent he's right. I can look at Battleborn and see a fuck-ass ugly game before I ever even see it's actually a shitty ASSFAGGOTS. Fire the creative directors (who were probably hired due to being Anthony Burch's friends) and hire some people who understand AESTHETICS.

>>389088571
She's 13 and seen more death than most people

>>389103509
He shouldn't be Gearbox's front man then. I don't care if he's their CEO that's why you hire people to do it for you.

>>389080683
Delusional enough to actually put out those absolute garbage games.

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>>389104546
>Imagine having to be Randy's wrangler/spokesperson

>>389080683
The artstyle is what makes it unique though

Fucking Randy first you steal it then you shit on it

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>>389086203

>>389080683
Oh Randy

At this point I have to wonder who is /v/'s favorite target to shit on, him, Dobson or maybe Chris-chan

>>389080683
art style =/= graphics

>>389085837
Gotta get back the money lost on ShitBorn because they can't con a company like SEGA out of their money anymore.

>>389101897
That was the best April fools we ever had

>>389088231
She's bi at the very least. She talks about how girls make her all hot and bothered from time to time in the Torque dlc.

>>389096141
nepotism and hiding behind the veil of feminism to deflect critisism

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>copy someone else's work
>complain about the way it looks

Can someone just shoot this piece of shit?

>Borderlands was originally going to be gritty and somewhat realistic looking while still retaining the aliens and locale
>some of the earliest creatures shown like the Rakk Hive were firdt shown in this realistic artstyle
>change it
>complain they shouldnt have changed it
Gearbox are honestly the biggest retards in the industry

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>>389081703
no

>>389086676
It's about tone.

Bl2 is full of depressing stuff sure, but it's almost always completly mitigated by a dumb joke or pop culture reference. And despite everyone claiming how shit Pandora is, it's actually kinda nice: they have TV shows, futuristic towns, video games etc... Everyone talks as if they had normal 2010's earth style lives until Jack started ruining everything.

In Bl1 Pandora is a shithole where nothing good ever happens. They litterally say in the game that offworld ships are a rarity and they arnt in communication with anyone else. There's no TV or Radio or anything, just endless garbage and shanty towns. The humour was usually inappropriate responses to horrific things happening (usually apathetic "oh well, dumb shit" when finding out someone was dead) or dark ironic twists of fate. No one except Clap Trap was cheerful, and no one except Helena Pierce was optimistic or attempting to be productive.

This just proves how much money they lost on Battleborn. Before they proudly touted their (stolen) art style as "SO STYLISH AND INNOVATIVE, IT'S JUST LIKE A COMIC BOOK", now they're mad that their successful franchise isn't CoD-big cause that would've allowed them to survive Battleborn. How long until he starts saying "DUKE NUKEM WOULD BE MORE SUCCESSFUL IF IT WASN'T SO SEXIST" because his jew-remaster bombed?

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>>389080683
He's probably not entirely wrong. The way Borderlands has that grotesque cel-shaded visual style is the very reason I never touched it.

It's the same reason I won't touch kawaii desu anime games. I like JRPGs, and I'll gladly play ones that don't have that look, like ones that look like Final Fantasy or Lost Odyssey are just fine. But shit like Persona and Dragon Quest I won't go near because I can't stomach the disgusting style. It sucks because I'm sure they're fine games but they make my eyes bleed to look at so I just can't play them.

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>>389083621
Why wasn't this guy in trigun maximum?

>>389087290
A completly different type of funny though. In 2 it's lol so randum humour and she's written to be autistic by Burch basically gender swapping Shelton from Big Bang Theory,

In 1 she starts out fairly normal and over the course of several years completly loses it. She starts out horrified by the violence but quickly becomes normalised to it, and starts seeing the positive side of her colleagues being eaten (" i always liked his chair").

Bl1 was "laugh because everything is so terrible and there's nothing else to do in this horrible situation filled with slightly wacky characters"

Bl2 is "laugh because we carefully constructed this joke to have a setup, punchline and make sure it referenced a movie you've seen"

>>389085837
Compulsion Games should really be in prison.

>>389084241
*BREATHES IN*

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>>389085034
>mostly bad character designs
This. Battleborn had no sexy waifus in it like Overwatch so I avoided it.

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>>389109931
What's the matter anon? Don't find Brianna Wu sexy?

>>389108434
>just endless garbage and shanty towns
That's really because the game has very little content.
>dark ironic twists of fate
What?

>>389109257
I didn't get for a moment impression that she starts normal in BL1. She's fucking autistic from the beginning, you don't get autistic from PTSD or whatever.

>make sure it referenced a movie you've seen
Most references I remember in BL2 are actually skill names.

In fact, BL2 is the game I remember trying to be MORE serious than BL1 with dark dramatic moments like Roland dying, Angel dying and Mordekai's bird dying. It didn't exactly work for me, but I guess they tried.

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>>389085837
>game not included

>>389085837
>*Game not included
product looks like garbage, but this makes sense for an early access game that's been around for a while

>>389086565
Gaige has no big tiddies and ass though.

>>389085837
Literally why? Can't they simply toss a piece of paper with a key on it to download the game on Steam?

>>389081047
It wouldn't. Minecraft can run on a potato.

>>389102405
Its not about the price, its just bad design.
Believe me i have 300hrs in this game.
The only okay part in this game is the operations which is sold separately.

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>>389080683
No Randy, it was the shallow gameplay.

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>>389080683
>about to ruin the last succesful franchise they have
>mfw you lived to see Gearbox die

>>389091304
how's his game coming along?

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>>389100029
>there's also nothing wrong with that.
It's annoying and obnoxious as fuck. Why the fuck do I have to listen to this characters cringey soliloquy when they can sum it up in a sentence?

>>389111986
You can just skip/mute dialogue and follow the objective marker... Dry writing has its place but it's a Diablo-like so the objectives are already dryy as fuck - go there, kill those, grab that, might as well spice it up.

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>>389080683
randy if you don't make BL3 more like 1 and not like 2 you will sell enough to get yourself out of the hole you made with battleborn and then some
the only reason 2 sold is because people expected 1 but better, they aren't going fall for it a second time to FIX THE FUCKING REVOLVERS ILL END YOU RANDY

>>389112737
from what i've heard they didn't learn their lesson with BL2.5 so don't get your hopes up

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>>389110195
>That's really because the game has very little content.
Which conveniently contributed to the desolate "middle of nowhere" feeling in the game.

>>389112737
>the only reason 2 sold is because people expected 1 but better
And that's precisely what they got.

>>389112875
Isn't it great being a fanboy, you can pretend even the bad things about your favorite games are blessings in disguise!

>>389112540
Excessive dialogue =/= spicing it up.

>>389112843
BL2.5 was outsourced to dumb aussies iirc, I couldn't expect them to fix anything. Even then they fixed the dumb as fucking exponential scaling right?
>>389112889
objectively, subjectively, literally and figuratively wrong

>>389096141
his sister

>>389112889
the fucked level scaling and loot drop ratios ruined it, slag was also a bad idea, everything else was better

>>389113053
>Even then they fixed the dumb as fucking exponential scaling right?
i think it still had it?

>>389113001
While not all the time but sometimes a games limitations or shortcomings can improve the game. For example in Silent Hill they covered up the short render distance with a fog which ended up making it more spooky because you weren't sure what was lurking in it.

>>389113246
you forgot most of the weapons in the game feeling and being shit save for a few
>revolvers, one of the peoples choice in 1, is utter shit now and useless
>assault rifles feel like shit
>shotguns ESPECIALLY feel like shit
>smgs generally are straightup shit
>some manufacturers removed for stupid shit like Bandit that is completely useless
>new eridium weapons somehow even worse than the ones from 1
at least rocket launchers got the buff they deserved, god they sucked in 1

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>you will never go riverboat gambling with Randy

why even live?

>>389113531
yeah, bl2's loot/weapons in general are bad. bl1 had forgettable weapons too, but you found good/interesting ones often enough it didn't matter

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Oh goodness

>>389113903
bl1 had a lot of shotguns that simply had too large of a spread to ever be useful, but the ones that did have good accuracy fuck were they good to use

>>389113053
>objectively, subjectively, literally and figuratively wrong
Metacritic Borderlands 1 (PC) user rating: 7.8
Metacritic Borderlands 2 (PC) user rating: 8.2
Wew! Neither game deserves a rating above 7.5 if you ask me.

>>389113246
BL2 scaling was a bit too harsh for me, but BL1 was too lenient. Kind of defeats the point of having levels when a level 18 gun kills level 50+ enemies just fine.

Drop rates were proper fucked, though.

Why doesnt Randy take advantage of the fact they can use the same graphics and artstyle to guaruntee a stable 1080p 60fps on consoles, maybe make the worlds bigger with more enemies on screen? Most Xbox 360 era games still look nice on higher resolutions and not running at 20fps.

>>389080683
Why does this guy look like he just got done crying all the time now?

>>389109616

That girl is really cute. Who is she?

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>>389113960
>100 more people have posted in this thread than are playing Randy's hobby-grade turd

Beautiful.

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>>389114228
BECAUSE BIGGER IS MORE BADASS. 4K NO SPLIT SCREEN SUPER GRAPHIX > Fun interesting coop experience which is able to be crafted masterfully.

FUCK YEAH RANDY. YOU SO BADASSSSSSSSS.

>>389114434
I hate that guy so much. At least the other dicks on the channel came at guests straight.

Fucker Carlyton is all about his little "can't believe you said something I think is so stupid, even though I clearly set you up with the question and I knew what you would say when I asked it" meme.

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>>389114228
He is too busy using that processing power to pack more memes into the game. 60mps is the new trend.

>>389114337
thank you google, you are my greatest ally

http://cindynsilk.tumblr.com/post/154003978842/vanfair99-omgbobby46-i-just-love-her-her

>>389114664
>even though I clearly set you up with the question and I knew what you would say when I asked it

I have never even watched his show in my life, but there is nothing wrong with using questions to cut to someone's true motivations, feelings, etc. That's a huge part of journalism.

>>389103509
No wonder he's obsessed with repeating "badass" over and over.

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>>389081289
>rip someone's artstyle completely
>bitch about the artstyle later

I fucking hate Randy so much.

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>>389080683
/v/

>"how the game looks shouldn't matter the only thing that matters is that the game is fun"

also /v/

>"this game has a black person in it doesnt matter how it plays nice try le SJWs"

>>389111548
Pretty good, tried last public build at gamescon for at least 45 min and I really liked what I saw.

>>389117405
Fine bait, of course you can make it even better by saying it wasn't bait.

>>389081703
i mean if were talking about the Gearbox back then that made OF and BS then it wouldnt be so bad, but with gearbox today that would be a no

>>389082835
Gameplay. Believe it or not the game is solid if you've never played it before. And it runs on shit on anything that doesn't have i5 ipc

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>>389080683
Im too late for the Randy thread?

>>389108261
that's literally portal 2 tho

if anything this piece of shit holds up because of the unique artstyle. if it was done "realistically" the graphics would be hilariously dated

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>>389080683

>>389119480
Which was shit compared to the first Portal.

>>389110706
overrated.
gaige's figure is perfect

>>389119738
>>389120106
I was actually curious to play it, but it died so fast I decided not to waste my money.

I made the same mistake with Brink once upon a time. It was dead in two weeks and I regretted the purchase.
(I actually had fun in Brink for that short while though)

>>389081584
>>389081718
>>389084868
>>389088598
>>389088741
>>389099638
>>389111119
>the appeal of minecraft is that it can run on even a weak computer

If that's true, why did Notch program it so horribly? Who thought java was a good idea here?

>>389080683
that headline isnt wrong borderlands was fucking hideous and its one of the reasons i never played it. that and the memes

>>389083621
>>The retarded scaling on enemies
what are you on about, there's no fucking scaling in borderlands 2. every map has it's enemies with set levels.

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>>389120303
Isnt brink alive again? It went F2P a couple of weeks ago

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>>389120546
but borderlands 1 had no memes in it, you are thinking about memelands 2

>>389120510
i agree, i don't know what those people are on
on a rig that can play shit like skyrim on max settings i was still getting performance issues with java minecraft, the game runs disgustingly poorly

>>389080683
The Borderlands series was pretty good in coop

>>389120510
Notch didn't expect it to achieve a fraction of the success it saw, so it's not like he planned that much of it out. It still ran on whatever pathetic prebuilt desktop running linux I had back in 2011 though. It doesn't run well but it runs on everything. Kids don't give a shit about framerate anyway.

>>389091284
you are to stupid to live

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>>389085837

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>>389091304

>>389120707
how do these compare to Law Breakers numbers at launch?

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>>389122209
I only have this, showing how worse lawbreakers is doing compared to battleborn

>>389087835
It should still have the fucking game regardless, even if it's just a digital version, it's maximum jew shit

>>389120707
>2,600 all time peak

Man can you imagine spending all that time and money making a game, but fucking it up so bad that almost no one ever plays it despite being available on everything and published by a name well known even by normies?

>>389121987
>gender neutral
>doesn't include the attack helicopter gender
wow, talk about fucking regressive ideologies. I'm glad the witcher understands true gender acceptance.

why is randy bitchford still employed

>>389122457
He's a good cuck and awesome at sucking dicks.

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>>389122372
Are you making fun of transgender people?
Im literally shaking

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Remember that time Randy used the Duke Nukem twitter to hit on a fat disgusting tranny?

>>389122559
not at all, i'm just saying that the bathroom that doesn't assume gender is more progressive.
besides, what if i identify as a 'two-genders-only' gender?

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>>389122583
Remember that time Randy refused to say name overwatch and called it "competitive game"?

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>>389122681
Holy fuck I didn't remember that.

Remember the Battleborn action figures?

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>>389122910
Yes, and what about the fantastic Battleborn card game

>>389115274
>never watched his show in my life
That's why you don't understand what I'm talking about. Watch him with his dumbassed little "HUUUUUUUUUUUH?" expression worn half the segments, and you'll get it.

>>389123173
>How dare you speak to me

Every fucking time

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>>389123173
kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UApyd20yK5s

>>389080683
Wasn't borderlands 1 realistic in its first conception, but they were accused of ripping something off so they changed up the style? I swear this was a thing,

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>>389123173
>how dare you speak to me

>>389123384
Not exactly. Originally it had realistic style, but around the same time id announced Rage. They didn't want Borderlands to be "poor mans Rage", so they changed the artstyle the cartooney one, which was ripped from something else.