First 20 min of Switch FF XV https://youtu.be/GQGWY5tMZB8

i strongly feel like this is an insult to life itself

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>>389041351
>they wasted all this money on a remake of a 2016 game
>could have been Bravely Third for switch

fuck u square

>>389041557
>implying this downgrade mobile game has a budget more than 100 bucks

>>389041351
>Switch FF XV
It's not for Switch, dumbass

>>389041557
We're getting octopath traveler though.

Is FFXV really deserving of all the crossover marketing, side games and remakes? This just feels like another FFXIII debacle in progress.

>>389041836
It will be, though.

>>389041984
They already so no plans for pocket on any system right now since they would have to redo how the game plays

>>389041351
SE what in the heck are you doing?

Holy fuck man I just want square to move on to the next title. I really enjoyed XV despite all it's issues but now I'm finding it hard to stomach seeing it.

I really feel like this would have worked if they didnt bitch out a quarter way through, it shouldve been retro 16 bit throwback graphics and sounds then just return to the ATB system

>>389041351
inb4 it ends up being better than the actual game

>>389043775
>only hire otaku interns to do everything
>no innovative genuises allowed
>no incentive to make anything more than the same rehashed shit
>why do they keep making the same game over and over

because its literally all they know how to do.

>>389041351
Don't forget the Assassins Creeds crossover DLC. I thought it couldn't get worse.

>>389041557
>Could have had a 3D FFV remake on the 3DS, allowing you to play FFIII, FFIV, FFV and both Bravely games on the same system

>>389041351

>people mad at a game developed by a mobile team, for phones, that will literally pay itself in a day
>people think that, somehow, a mobile project is interfering with development for the main series

Some people here need to go back to school

>>389041351
The combat looks better than the actual FFXV desu

>>389044234
>https://youtu.be/mHzmpi18-OY

If you don't believe me.

>>389041351
Would've been better if the VA was gone and replaced by inflections, with text only.

The VA here is an awful juxtaposition

>>389041351
it's not for switch

>>389041979
They want their investment back. It's XIII all over again.

>>389044268
Way to miss the point entirely.

>>389044521
Definitely, it's extremely jarring

>>389044521
Seconded. Such a bad choice

>>389041351
Howling, Nintendo babies

>>389044521
Okay so I'm not the only one who thought the VA was a bit odd. I honestly expected them to redo the voice acting or to take it out completely.

>>389041351
Go shit up some other board with your low quality bait

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>>389041351
>SE is wasting resources on this instead of trying to come up with something new and interesting for once

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>>389041351
>Still 20fps on a fucking mobile game with shittier graphics

You can't make this shit up

Switch wins again.

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>>389041351
What is the point of this? I can understand the AC normie pandering, but who is this mobile port for? Do they realize that mobile players are looking for cheap thrills like color switch or mobage shit for Subway trips and not some 20 hour story driven RPG? And anyone on mobile who doesn't already own a console probably doesn't want one, otherwise, why would they willingly play the worst version of a game already available? Also, it's not like XV is this grand tale worth experiencing again in a new form, or at all, especially on mobile.

I feel like Tabata's team really think they've created some fucking masterpiece that everyone needs to experience, when it isn't the case at all. I hope it's not because of that reason and it's just purely made to milk gullible children with phones

>>389041351
Damn, how much money have they lost on XV that they're trying to recoup so bad?

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What was the purpose of this game again?

>>389041351
Wait this wasn't a joke? Hooooooly shit square enix. I love your games but what are you doing

>>389045828
To make more yen off of die-hard SE fanboys.

>>389043775
You're not alone in feeling that way anon

>>389045012
>wasting resources instead of coming up with new games.

This is standard SE practice. They've been doing this since FF13. Don't forget they made to sequels for a game no body asked for and no body really wanted and each game sold less than the one before it. Then you have the remakes of old games and the re-releases, and then the unnecessary sequels and prequels (4 and 7). They'll run this shit into the ground before even beginning production of FF16.

>People really liked all those ugly as fuck early FF remasters
>Lol let's do it with the new games too
What were they theenkeeng?

>>389041979
Final Fantasy is a dead series
Not even spin-offs are good, just a bunch of mediocre to shit game

last good mainline game is more than 10 years old

Fucking Crystal Chronicles Remake FINALLY

Crystal Chronicles would be great Mobage trash

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>>389046239
It's already past "run into the ground". This motherfucker has reached China.

>>389041351
what is going on at the top of the stairs there

>>389041979
>Is FFXV really deserving of all the crossover marketing, side games and remakes?

seeing how long it took them to make FFXV overall and all the resources and wasted money they had to suffer through from huge revisions of the game, yeah i think square really needs to market this game as much as they can.

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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>389041351
I guess they lost the rights to use Stand By Me in the intro? And even some basic Kingdom Hearts 1 lip flap would have been nice.

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>>389041351
>even with those graphics the game runs at silky smooth 10fps

>>389046796
I can respect them updating and adding stuff into the game itself, in the sense that there was a definite vision for the game and they want to get the game into a state that can reflect that vision. All this other stuff though. fucking really?

>>389041351
15 was so fucking bad holy shit. talk about lifeless

>>389041852

and I'm sure everyone else will be getting it too.

>>389047102
>All this other stuff though. fucking really?

everything has been all mobile so far and you should know by now that mobile shit can be pretty profitable.

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>>389041351
>never saw any of the story before
>the story actually fucing starts with Characters in dangerous situation ands ends with a "cliffhanger" moment, and then the story goes back into the past before that event happens, and the entire game is just playing up to that point

STOP FUCKING DOING THIS, EVERY GAME THAT I CAN FUCKING REMEMBER PLAYING THAT USED THIS EXACT SAME STORY STRUCTURE HAS HAD A DOGSHIT FUCKING STORY, IS IT THE SAME HERE AS WELL?

>>389043775
We are taking about Square "How many FF XIII games do you want senpai?" Enix here.

>>389047624
Yes. They basically spoil the Ifrit fight and a timeskip within the first 10 seconds of the game. It was done because the scene right after is them pushing a car and Tabata wanted to keep the children's attention just in case they bail

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>>389041979
Welcome to the afterlife of FF

>>389044521
I dunno, it worked for W101. Then again, that game was a lot more charming than this piece of shit.

>>389041351
Jesus Christ, they took the intro scene one of the few things this game did right and ruined it. I can't take the game seriously when everyone looks like funko pop figures

>>389047687
To be fair, SE needed some quick cash after the FFXIV fiasco and considering the Versus project wasn't improving, FFXIII had to carry the entire company

>>389041557
They could have used all that money to finish the damn game

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>this game was planned years ago
>they thought it was a good idea to make this
>They could have used the money that went into this, the anime, movie, and other mobile game and instead put it into making a brand new title, remake a past game, finish xv, give one of their other dormant brands a sequel, or literally anything else

>>389041351
Not gonna lie, looks better than the photorealistic effeminate twinkle-eye fagboy art style square normally goes for.

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>>389048340
I just don't understand. This type of milking suits BOTW, or some game that made a splash and wasn't forgotten 2 weeks after release. It really feels like they're just trying to force XV into the public consciousness because it wasn't able to the first time. All it's done now is make people loathe the game even more.

>>389048434
>Other mobile game
Brave New Empire is a rip off. I have no idea how those fuckers haven't gotten a massive lawsuit up the ass yet. I'm speculating they made Mobile specifically to counter it.

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>>389047975
That fucking egg only exist so I can cosplay as Altair, not even Ezio for the love of God just stop Square fucking stop

>>389041979
FFXIII at least managed to give a half decent game for 13-3
but since noctis is dead at the end of 15, there won't be any event like this one

>>389041836
>It's not for Switch, dumbass
It is for the switch though, dumbass.

>>389047624
I was kinda cool to see the characters start a youngsters but they'll fight the final battle as adult men.

>>389048874
See >>389042038

>>389048768
>Brave New Empire is a rip off. I have no idea how those fuckers haven't gotten a massive lawsuit up the ass yet.
Because SE licensed it out to them

>>389048754
The last three FF games were failures (this is coming from someone who likes 15)
13 got two sequels
14 got rebooted into an actually good game
15 needs to be milked into "good" tier just to justify the existence of the game it's squares strategy. At this point I think the FF series is just a money laundering scheme by the Yakuza

>>389042038
>they would have to redo how the game plays

source or did you just make that shit up?

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>>389041351
This honestly looks like a joke.

>all these ads for their phone game

I feel sick.

>>389041557
>for switch
Fucking why? Nobody owns a Switch m8. Keep it on 3DS

>>389049169
The game has no controller support what so ever, its all done by dragging where you want Noctis to go and tapping on the enemy
Ign asked about this being ported to Switch and they pretty much said it would take a lot of work to redo the controls but they don't think people on Switch would want it.

xv-kun can you please use this thread instead

>>389049321
Saw this one on tv last night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28wx4Rzy0lw

Versus died for this.

>>389041351
I honestly can't watch this without laughing.

>>389049512
>having been watching TV like a normie to see that.

>>389049647
I was watching the hurricane reports with Anderson Cooper 360 Degrees

>>389049802
>not getting all your breaking up to the minute news from /pol/
IT'S HAPPENING! SOMEBODY JUST TWEETED A PICTURE OF A CLOUD. SECOND HURRICANE TO HIT HOUSTON YELLOWSTONE ERUPTION CONFIRMED

>>389041351
fuck me!
why couldn't we have gotten this as the real game or as a new "PS1" mode

i am playing this again!

>>389050018
That sounds like a breaking news report on CNN, so I guess I'm not missing out on much.

>>389050140
Did I say anything about it being Russia's fault?

>>389050184
No, but let's proceed to talk about it anyways for the rest of the week using the breaking news graphic each time.

>>389050662
>>389050716
>>389050787
wew

its too bad
i liked the characters, journey and music
but the story and combat where SHIT AS FUCK

i enjoyed exploring places too, but after everything was said and done, i just felt like i wasted time overall.

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>wake up
>see this
>wat do?
Like what exactly did Sqenix do wrong here? Ruin your goth twink boy makeout fantasy?

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>>389050662
>>389050716
>>389050787
>>389050847
kys already xv-kun

>>389050940
>>wat do?
Wake up again.

>>389041351
Squaresoft has lost their mutherfucking minds.

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>>389049169
>>389041351
Epic, just epic

>>389050847
It's pointless, a waste of resources and development time that could've been allocated towards actual story content that people asked for, and it's also temporary. Final Fantasy is now a cuck franchise that whores itself out to promote normie western trash, regardless of if the crossover is even appropriate or not.

>>389051498
You do realize that they have other teams that work on mobile games/etc right? And that there's really a maximum team size for anything where people start getting in each other's way. If a game is made too short it's not becuase of some other project the company has made.
It's because people are idiots and buy the game anyway whenever the company cranks out anemic garbage.

>>389051028
>greenlit by SE
>promoted by SE
>officially part of the XV Universe

What's your point? It's a representative of the shitty and shameless XV Milkverse, endorsed and encouraged by SE.

>>389051780
>Hell so did MGS4
And Peace Walker, as a matter of fact.

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>>389044263
>There's an alternate reality where not only can you play every single mainline Dragon Quest game on the 3DS, but also every Final Fantasy from the first to IX.

>>389051780
Weren't those just costumes though? Not saying that one is better than the others, both are garbage and should never exist in a mainline FF. But a costume probably takes a lot less time and money to make than a whole 2-3 hour event with new dialouge and shit. They had to get voice actors to do all this, create new animations for the climbing etc.
Just because it's a crossover doesn't mean they HAVE to do it. The time and money could be spent on actual story updates

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>>389051858
>shitty and shameless XV Milkverse

>>389052132
I reckon 3ds might even be able to handle X and XII. Since they'd be downscaling the graphics to 480p anyway.

>>389052383
I'd rather have them on the PS4 desu, but PS1 games on the 3DS would work great.

>>389041979
Hell no, I'm almost certain it's a fucking money laundering scheme I don't know how else to explain the clash of clans clone cross promotion

>>389052462
Bravely Default is like 4 gigabytes. Easily double layer dvd sized. It does have some lighting effects and the summon magic is pretty high poly count, albeit not on the screen for very long.

I reckon she could handle PS2 games.

WE DID IT, NINTENBROS!

>>389052383
Theres no sense in putting spectacle games on a 240p screen

>>389052627
If Xenoblade can run on N3DS, so can FFX and XII, realistically speaking.

>>389052816
But Xenoblade 3DS is an abortion.

>>389052973
So was FFXII, your point?

>>389053032
FFXII is actually an amazing port.

>>389041557
Edea is trash tho. At least post a good character

>>389052132
you almost can with the DQ games, just no DQ 1-3 on the DS or 3DS, but we now have DQ4-9 and 11 on the 3DS/DS on one system, its great

>>389053113
They actually released I to III on 3DS recently. Probably never gonna leave Japan, but hey.

>>389053105
>Bravely Default
>Good characters
pick one.
That's what made that game so good though. Going back to tired old cliches after over a decade now of photorealistic cyber-punk twink-boy characters

3d voice acted FFVI remake with FMVs , when?

>>389053113
I know that, english isn't my first language.

It sucks SE handles FF so bad and DQ so well.

>>389041351
fuck, I thought this was joke

I mean, it still is, but cmon

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WHERE IS TACTICS/TACTICS ADVANCE YOU FUCKING HACKS

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>>389051498
>It's pointless, a waste of resources and development time that could've been allocated towards actual story content that people asked for,

like the stuff on the survey.
No VR fishing is on here
No stupid AC crossover is on here
No Multiplayer is on here
No mobile port is on here

>>389047882
If he wanted to keep kids attention, he shouldn't have cut the fucking insomnia invasion

>>389051083
Well seeing as how you got banned again in this thread and >>389054121
I think the anon might be onto something

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>>389041351
>that framerate

>>389053221
nes, snes or mobile versions?
i couldn't imagine them making new versions of 1-3

>>389051083
and I see you are evading bans

>>389054425
Most of that is going to be DLC, they do a survey to see how much interest there is & which one will take priority

I expect a few of them will be cut, like Luna's DLC, i doubt there is much interest in that because shes such a boring character

>>389051240
>squaresoft

no squaresoft wouldint have let this happen in a million years

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>>389054141
On a hacked 3ds or emulated.

>>389054825
They already want to do a Ardyn movie or spin-off game. Same with Luna probably, since they're both two of the weakest and most underdeveloped characters.

>>389054956
They even started talking about a second season pass.
Where is this game even going at this point.

>>389054956
I doubt there will be a spin off game, FFXV is Square's start as "video games as a service"

Just gonna be tons of DLC for it , which i don't mind if it's story DLC

>>389054736
Not him, but it looks like the mobile version (I think. I'm not to familiar with that version).
https://youtu.be/wr8HYNS6V0Y (It's got Japanese Commentary, as a warning).

>>389045697
I actually play a lot of old school RPGs on mobile. It's really easy to just play for an hour or two while in bed.

>>389055078
>literally just the mobile version with a shitter field of view, but still the ugly as fuck stretched out graphics
>which means they are going to have everything wrong with those versions as well
Fuck SE.

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>>389041351
I'm amazed how many spin offs of one game they managed to pull of in less then a year of release.
Thats got to be a record.

>>389053247
They were fine characters though. Better than XV's at least.

>>389047975
>>389046605
>>389044348
>>389044234

DON'T FORGET, IT'S A LIMITED TIME ONLY DLC EVENT!!! BETTER BUY THE DLC NOW TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS LIMITED EDITION PIECE OF CLOTHING FOR A SINGLEPLAYER GAME!!!

>>389041351
>tfw we'll never get VS13 and instead got this abomination + spinoffs like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6At_bb1PNU

>>389055512
What killed the game for me Was the uninspired final battle

>>389041351
>chibi Cidney

TAKE MY MONEY.

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>>389055736
>Was the uninspired final battle

Phase 1 was good.
Phase 2 had shit controls

>>389054141
in Final Fantasy XIV
http://www.dualshockers.com/final-fantasy-xiv-update-4-1/

>>389054825
>>389054956
Isn't Luna the most popular FFXV girl on Japan? It's a well-known fact that Japan has a boner for peace princesses, see Gundam

>>389056008
I think Aranea and Iris are a lot more popular. She probably won the survey because compared to them she really needs screentime and expostion

>>389056008
She was second place in the dlc poll
But SE are retards that don't know what they're doing and Luna needs the dlc because she's barely in the game at all

>>389056008
She was before the game was released. When it came out the nips were pretty mad that their waifu only got 15 minutes of screentime. So it's understandable that Luna would win the poll along with Ardyn. I mean, considering she's supposed to be the main heroine, what the game showed was pretty underwhelming. Rinoa is useless but at least you have time to get emotionally attached to her because she appears most of the time and is actually a party member. I think SE is trying hard to remake another Aerith. But the thing with Aerith is the MC actually got to interact with her and she's also a party member which is enough for most people to get attached to the character.

They think the tragic shit like "can only be reunited in the afterlife" would work on most people without ever letting the MC and his love interest interact during the time they're still alive.

>XV Pocket Edition announced for phones
>Also ends up getting ported not to Switch, but Vita for some fucking reason

>>389056195
>>389056610
Second place is still pretty high considering how small is her screentime. I guess Japan can't get over its peace princess fetish

>>389056195
Why can't they just let it go? I'm almost certain no one was clamoring for more story updates before the survey. People were just expressing their dissatisfaction overall but didn't fucking expect the code monkeys over at BD2 to release a survey listing tiny story updates they'd like to pump out over the course of years just to fill gaps in the story and characters because they literally have nothing better to do while SE sorts itself out. People just kinda vented and moved on, why can't Tabata and Co. just move on?

>>389056715
Vita already got the Seiken Densetsu II and Romancing SaGa 3 remasters coming out for it soon, I don't think they're putting XV on it because there's no FF userbase on it, but this is Squenix we're talking about so it's possible, I guess.
Would be pretty sad for Switch users though.

>>389056953
move on? nope, FFXV is this gen's Final Fantasy, you aint getting FF7R until next gen

Also if they manage to integrate all the story DLC Into the main game one day, i think it would salvage FFXV

>>389056953
Because Japan can't let it go while they still can make some yen

>>389056998
>I don't think they're putting XV on it because there's no FF userbase on it
Despite PS1 FF games being regularly top seller month after month after Vita got access to playing them, and then getting FFX HD and WoFF.

>>389056715
>tfw it get ported to both Switch and Vita

>>389041351
I am so sick of how much FFXV is being forced down everyone's throats. Every fucking day I have to watch the ads for that fucking mobile game, and holy shit it looks stupid as fuck. Just seeing Noctis gets me mad.

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>>389056876
It's understandable why she'd get 2nd place though. Out of the prominent characters in the game, she and Ardyn needed it the most. Along with Regis, Cor, Ravus, Gentiana, and Iedolas. I'm waiting for someone to scan that artbook so I can see how much content was cut on this shit and all those unused concept art.

>>389057807
>how much content was cut on this shit and all those unused concept art.
The artbook probably won't even have all of it

>>389057579
>Despite PS1 FF games being regularly top seller month after month
On which PSN? Because I'm on the JP one and it's not happening.
The PS FF games are not part of any top ranking, the only FF that are part of top ranking in the most downloaded/liked charts are X and WoFF and are below of other Square stuff like DQB or even Romancing SaGa 2.

But hey, it that happens more power to those who want that stuff anyway, as far as I see it Squenix is more likely to put it on Switch at this point.

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>>389041351
>tfw you watched what was originally Nomura's creation get milked like this

Seriously fuck Tabata and FUCK Square

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIx9VJWSl8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEKNUCjcrMY&t=1s

>>389057807
'm tempted to buy the artbook, but it will probably be 50% CG shit and 50% monster art.
The XIV artbooks are amazing. 350+ pages of art of basicly every character, weapon, item, monster, minion, area, boss etc. and every artpiece has a small sentence from the artist below it

>>389057979
>On which PSN?
North America. The only one that matters. There's more justification for a Vita port than Switch at this point in time, although they really ought to do both because Switch is starved for anything.

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>>389041351
Just please fucking stop. I cannot deal with the missed potential of this game. FF15 with another 15 months of development time could have been the greatest FF of all time.

I'm still trying to get over all the cut content and they keep embarassing themselves and shilling FF15 garbage 'universe' content and it leaves a really bad taste in my mouth

It really felt like Nomura had a real story to tell. How did we go from those epic trailers of Noctis getting chauffered into Insomnia, my heart won't let go, the invasion scenes, Iedolas vs Yakuza Regis who had ambitions of being the last king....

to this abomination in OP's post? HOW?

I just can't get over how much of a mess they made over this game, it might be the biggest fuckup in gaming history. The Omen trailer even had a more interesting story, FUCK.

>>389058193
>it might be the biggest fuckup in gaming history. The Omen trailer even had a more interesting story
That's what really sucks
Even after they threw out nomura's stuff, it still looked like it had potential

>>389041351
WHERE THE FUCK IS STAND BY ME

>>389055630
But its free...

>>389041351
>Make the game looks like complete ass
>Still has a framerate of 20
I am actually having a good laugh at how absurdly underpowered the switch is.

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I knew FFXV was going to be a fuckup long before it went out
>watching demo gameplay
>typical gothfag NuFF protags driving around in modern car
>Go run out into field
>Space ship flies over field in the distance.
>A bunch of knights in plate armor rappel down.
Yeah, no. Final Fantasy is dead.

>>389058173
>North America. The only one that matters.
Got a chuckle out of me.
>There's more justification for a Vita port than Switch at this point in time
I guess, since most of the FF userbase is on Sony consoles, but on the other hand they could also expand their market to the Switch since as you said it's starving for games real bad.
But even so, they still put Seiken Densetsu II and the SaGa games on Vita and completely ignored the Switch outside of the horrible DQH port and the new Project Octopath, which is as low budget as you can possibly be, I don't really know.

>>389058193
Easy. Poor directing by the producer and management.

For example, what dumbass thought it'd be a great idea to waste a huge amount of the budget on a poor 2hr full CGI movie with named voice actors instead of putting that into the game? And then literally putting clips of it into the game as a patch with poor context

>>389058193
I still don't get why they even made Omen. Just another blueballs part of the whole thing.
Especially the way they implement it for like 4.5 seconds in the game while Noctis sleeps but it's never mentioned because it was cleraly never planned or had any purpose

Why do the main characters look eternally pissed off? Sporting frowning faces and all.

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>>389058574
>what dumbass thought it'd be a great idea to waste a huge amount of the budget on a poor 2hr full CGI movie with named voice actors instead of putting that into the game?

>>389058685
I don't know but it pisses me off.

>>389055840
>10 years and nothing to show for it
ardyn is such a good villain that he even sums up the whole game

>>389047687
>>389043775
They've always done this for FF games
How many games take place in the world of 12?

>>389058109
The first XV trailer was so good, i still don't know why they didn't just go with that

Like the reception was overwhelmingly positive, why did they feel the need to change it?

Did the areas in the XV Platinum demo even get used in the actual game?

>>389047975
>>389046605
>asscreed
this just single handedly made me hate everything about FF15

>>389058926
Not even close to the same thing with Ivalice

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>>389057920
Well that is certain because it'd give more reason for people to bitch at them at how much they butchered the game with obvious rewrites. If you compare the trailers from 2014-2015 (which were all from Tabata) to the final product, it honestly didn't feel like it had the same story as the final game.

>>389058685
Omen was probably the worst. It got people hyped for nothing. While most of them know that it's just a premonition that Regis had or it's just a possibility, they specifically said that it gives you an idea what XV will be about so it still got people excited in the end. Turns out it has 0% relations with the main story because Noctis never posed a threat to Luna in the first place. Still funny that a 4 and half minutes video managed to be more interesting and feels like it had more story to tell than the main game.

>>389058984
No. Not at all. In fact PD is not even available anymore

>>389058926
At least they were full games with good content. Vagrant Story and FFT are both great and while i don't really like XII it certainly has tons of content
Even the XIII games were just 3 actual games and lightning fashion marketing. But XV is less than one year old and it already had more marketing and spinoff than basicly every FF except for maybe VII, but that took 20 years

>>389041351
Man, those faces looked messed up.

>>389054956
but luna had half a movie about herself

>>389059140
meant for >>389058589

>>389059167
So it was basically a look into content they managed to salvage together for a little tech demo, and a small look into what was built of Insomnia.

A shame.

>>389058984
The Insomnia Plaza we saw since like 2013 is the install screen and the area for the final boss. But the playroom is cut i think and the rest is just cut together pieces from Altissia

>>389058832
>ardyn is such a good villain that he even sums up the whole game

why do you think I called the filename "Ardyn reviews FFXV"?

>>389058574
Kingsglaive shouldn't have been neccessary to seperate from the main game. How is dicking around doing tasks for Cindy and collecting ore, avenging a random butler who served Gladio's family etc better than actually experiencing the invasion first hand? Like who honestly thought that was a good idea

They could have even have given us Nyx to play and kept the story the exact same, and picked up with Noctis out on the road after it, cutting out some of the meme open world messing around at the start.

>>389058589
That clip is just bizarre in the game. I mean there are theories that Pryna (Luna's white dog) can enter dreams and influence thoughts based on Episode Prompto but that scene literally served no narrative purpose. What was it supposed to represent? Foreshadowing that Noctis would lose his weapons in Chapter 13? Why was that even so neccessary to show?

The narrative decisions in this game absolutely boggle me. It's hard to comprehend that this level of incompetence is even possible

>>389059167
i hope the pc version has it tough, cuz i'm sure i'm gonna pirate it to see what mods can do

>>389058926
Very few.
>FF12 + Vagrant Wings
>Tactics 1, 2, and Advance (which all play uniquely)
>Vagrant story, apparently
>And a few mostly jp only quick mobile games
The only thread in common is that they share the same rules and world backstory, but each tweaks things or uses things form here and there. 13's worldbuilding is awful because it mixes actual, important details in the fucking chapter write-ups, and since each game is an apocalypse scenario you barely get to explore the worlds. 15 is just itself and since it's more character-driven doesn't give you a reason to really care about the world.

>>389041351
>all those dropped frames
This isn't a fucking joke?!

>>389059325
Shit felt backwards. Kingsglaive had a better setting for a game while XV had a better setting for a movie.

>>389041979
enix has been deadset on killing final fantasy ever since they emerged the controlling party in the merger

>>389047975
>AssCreed DLC somehow ended up being more interesting than most of the core game

>>389058516
This is the mobile version, there's no Switch one...yet.

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>>389059325
>Why was that even so neccessary to show?
They just had to throw it in for no good reason because it's the most well received trailer that XV (in Tabata's reigns) ever released. It just made people confused and annoyed because it has nothing to do with the game and felt completely out of place.

>>389059184
they aren't full games though. square still has resources going towards full games, this is just stuff on the side

>>389057807
Why the fuck did they made Luna look like a crack whore?

>>389058574
I hope they take the Kingsglaive clips out of the PC version, they don't fit at all,, 100% shoehorned in

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>>389041351
That guy looks like Noodle from the Gorillaz.

>>389059353
>>And a few mostly jp only quick mobile games
also Revenant Wings, and the Tactics Advanced games

>>389058535
Yeah. Magitek is a new introduction to the series that has never been in any previous game.

>>389059640
I know, i'm saying that the ivalice stuff were at least full games, same with 13.
And even stuff on the side like this shouldn't even exist.
If the game was one full game with a complete story and good character exposition and good endgame content they wouldn't have to do this.

it's like they're afraid that people will forget about if they don't pump out a new timed event or mobile game every few months

>>389059621
>felt completely out of place.

Well Omen was dark & depressing, which Versus 13 was all about, so i would say it fits perfectly

Of course by that point in development it was turned into a happy roadtrip with the lads, so it was just a cruel cocktease

>>389046239
>SE
>uncontested master of making things nobody asked for
It hurts. I think I prefer Capcom.

>>389058173
>Western Vita owners
>Matter
They already tried with FFX, it just isn't worth it especially since the west relegated the Vita as a PS4 device years ago. Only makes sense to cater to the bigger and more consistent market which is Japan.

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>>389059668
They even had to downgrade her in-game version to make her look a bit more similar with movie Luna.

>>389059834
what's even your complaint?
you're tired of FFXV but at the same time, you want more of it?

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>don't buy Square's other games
>wonder why they milk FF

>>389059997
They should let it die, how hard is it to understand, i never said i want more.
It's pathetic how they treat mainline FFs, especially this one. They have no respect anymore for the franchise that saved their ass

>>389060105
Make good games then. Setsuna was mediocre

>I-Its just like Chrono Trigger
Fuck off.

>>389060105
I will once I get SaGa on the Vita.

>>389060105
To be fair, while i really liked I am Setsuna, it was a bad overpriced.
Also FF will always sell well, not every normie out there follows Square and the development so closely. They see FF and they buy it

>>389059689
>PC version ends up not only having the Kingsglaive clips
>They're at 4K resolution instead hogging more of your HD space

>>389060346
Probably true sadly

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I've only ever played spin offs like Tactics, or Crystal Chronicles, is this game worth getting into? Also does it have an option for Japanese voices?

>>389060346
And it has like 4-5 dubs probably uncompressed

>>389060620
>4-5 dubs
What you mean was
>4-5 individual copies of the FMV, one in each language, because SE can't into multi-tracked video

>>389060581
No.

Yes.

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>>389059283
i didnt even see it

>>389060581
If you want to get into the series and don't hate turn based or ATB combat you might want to start with 4, 5, 6 for 2d, 7, 8, 9 for early 3d and X for PS2.
It will get you used to the structure. XV is a weird start imo, especially because it started as a spinoff anyway and is now and early access frankenstein monster.
Better emulate or buy all the others for cheap first. Otherwise you'll have to buy XV + the dlc snad wait months for more updates

Can we be fucking done with FFXV yet

Jesus christ

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I will probably never overcome this XV depression. I don't know how many times I watched all the trailers before launch, but I was not prepared for it to let me down in every single facet. Such a sour experience soured further by a year of relentless milking. It's such a horrible feeling, like a hole in my chest.

>>389060890
Nope! They're going to announce XV-2 as a prequel when they're done with the XV season pass + multiplayer content.

>>389060943
same,all i wanted was edgy noctis stabbing that guard midair like in the first trailer,first saw it in 2007/2008 dont remember, what a fucking letdown nowadays

>>389060890
Nope, SE invested too much time and money into it, we're going to get at least a trilogy out of it like xiii

Does Square still remember their other directors?
I really hope Tabata won't work on XVI. But he seems to make a new IP right with a happy ending. Who knows how that will turn out

>>389060890
And move on to...?

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>>389061373
>their other directors?

>>389061395
Type Next set in fantasy Honk Kong

>>389061395
The next one

>>389041351
wtf I love ffxv now

>>389041557
Bravely Third would have inevitably been more of an abortion of the franchise than second was, the mobile game already being dead should be evidence enough of that

>>389061502
FF7R is FF16.

>>389061441
This is a tragic bunch of hacks.

Real men like Matsuno and Sakaguchi need to return.

>>389061659
Sakaguchi sold his soul to the eternal mobile jew.

>>389047624
there's nothing wrong with in media res you sperg

>>389052132
But I can already emulate vii-ix on my 3DS

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>>389061659
They're both has-beens doing nothing but mobile crap

>>389061659
>This is a tragic bunch of hacks.
Yoshida seems to be the only one who knows how to deliver shit on time not as a broken mess at the least.

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>>389061659
>Real men like Matsuno

>>389058926
Literally only revenant wings is a direct sequel, and XII itself was a prequel of Tactics

>>389041351
It isn't for Switch though, it's for iPads.

>>389061659
I don't think Matsuno wants to suffer another nervous breakdown like he did with FFXII.

>>389041351
Gladio looks terrifying, missing a jaw and skipped all leg days.

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>>389062381
He should just stick to writing stories.

>>389062626
So we can have a new Ivalice FF that's just as poorly put together as XV despite good story/lore potential?

Tabata said in an interview that he only finished FF1. How did this guy get to direct a mainline AAA FF especially after his handheld games.
I don't really like Nomura, but at least he worked his way up there ever since FFIV and actually played all mainline games

>>389059773
>LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE
In Final Fantasy 6 Magitek is the meeting point of the dichotomy between magic and technology that is established from the very get-go in the plot. It blends together coherently. In fact there is no blending. It's a thing. There's an expectation that is established and fulfilled.

Armor-clad knights rappelling down from a space ship at the side of a modern highway is just retarded. It's indefensible. There's no coherent blending of ideas like with the Magitek in FF6.

>>389061625
>Bravely Default has a nice cast with good bantz but had a weak tedious middle to reach the various endings
>Second throws all of it in the garbage, the returning cast took a 180 in personality with one of them being a litteral zombie
The FFV-2 dream forever lost.

>>389044148
It's the Sam who game except with a cutesy artstyle instead. I'd like to see how they handle to more serious moments. Be pretty hard to take Luna's death or the final fight with Ardym seriously when they all look adorable

>>389063129

Her death was hard to take seriously when it was realistically rendered.

>>389063129
I can't wait for those scenes. Makes for good webms

>>389062626

Wait FFT is in XIV now?

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>>389063341
In october

>>389063341
XIV is a themepark game. Next casual alliance content takes place in Ivalice, probably through some dimensional warp bs.

>>389063341
In the next patch.

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>Final Fantasy XVI
>Business Division 2
>Director, Creative Director: Hajime Tabata
>Scenario Writer: Saori Itamuro
>Open World
>combat inspired by XV
>XVI Universe (movie, anime, mobile, novel, multiplayer)
>season pass

>>389057363
It was nice when Square was able to publish FFVII, Xenogears, VIII and IX all in one generation while also making other games. It's sad how far they've fallen. FF should have become a handheld series like Fire Emblem.

>>389063562

I don't care enough about MMOs to play it, I just want to see Ramza and Delita in modern graphics.

>>389059184
>Vagrant Story
>Full game
It's less than half of the game it was supposed to be and doesn't even have a closure.
>>389060105
Setsuna is trash though.
The problem isn't on the customer's end, at some point Squenix stopped giving a shit about anything other than FF, DQ and KH, so even if you wanted to buy something else you couldn't, then they tried to resurrect some franchises like Seiken Densetsu by doing terrible games with nonexistent budget, directed by people who had nothing to do with the series and didn't know what to do with them, which completely killed off entire IPs.
FF is a cashcow for normalfags, the money is there so they will always milk that trash as hard as they can because they know anything else they have bar Dragon Quest can't even hope to sell as much as FF, and they don't even try to branch out or put some effort in the other IPs they have, which in turn alienates the fanbases of those other IPs even further.
I mean, I'm still stunned they pulled off SaGa off the fridge and are actually pushing it hard in Japan, but stuff like Front Mission is dead and Seiken Densetsu gets remakes instead of full games with a decent budget.
I'll throw my fucking wallet at Squenix if they do something of quality like they did in the old mid 90's/early 00's, but they hardly do anything of worth, last game I bought full price from them was SaGa Scarlet Grace, the other game I did buy full price was The Last Remnant which came out a decade ago, everything else I bought on sale and I still regretted most of the stuff I did buy, like Setsuna, because it was gutter trash for casuals and normalfags.

>>389063737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYEjU8MOA9w

>>389062626
WTF I LOVE FFXIV NOW

>everyone cutting each other off
Is this Sonic Adventure 2 all over again?

>>389041984
>>389048874

>Nintendo consoles
>EVER getting a mainline FF game after 6

That is the universe's only true never EVER.

Why the fuck didnt they just reused the engine and assets to make a sequel?

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>>389063341
it's happening

>>389063828

In a non shitty art style .

>FFXV will be like XIII, last for about 6 years with tons of shit be versions and more completed versions
>XVI will be another online game
>FFVII will be sold in parts for the next couple of years
>there will not be a brand new main series game, FFXVII, until 2024 or so

>SaGa with FF budget
>Kawazu is given absolutely free reign
Y/N?

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>>389063737
Free trial up to level 35.

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Friendly reminder that the Secret of Mana remake got a shoestring budget while Squeenix continues to pump money into FFXV related stuff.

How long until a mainline mobile only FF?

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>>389064046
Because SHUT UP

>>389064104
Better keep looking then, since XIV's "style" is shit also.

>>389064234
Fuck no. Kawazu is a shit game designer and the games already get more resources than they deserve (Hamauzu's music is really wasted there).

>>389064234
Yes.
>>389064357
No.

>>389041351
>switch
I love this meme

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>>389064220
But XIV is fun.

>>389064220
If they keep the cycle, we would have one more game before the online one, which I could see them trying to push out a lot sooner then 15 took. If Zodiac sold well and this new 14 patch pops off, maybe we'll get an Ivalice game.

I'll take just a more classical fantasy game at this rate.

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>>389064274

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>>389064445
all hail kawazu's masterful game design

>>389064104
Well, XIVs artstyle isn't exactly amazing, at elast as far as ingame characters go.
The art itself is better than most FFs though.
I wish it wasn't an MMO sometimes, cause it easily tops everything after 9 or 10 in terms of story and characters.
And yes i know people will be triggered by this post.

>>389064554
Wonder how long before gacha games are made illegal. It's basically gambling with no real payout to the player.

>>389058508
shhh. they don't care they just want to rage at this game because it is't Versus even though Versus was never going to come out.

>>389064234
Fuck yes, he's the saviour Squenix needs but doesn't deserve.
Scarlet was great even with low budget and barely more than 2 years of development time, if they give him enough time and resources he'll do literal black magic, he's the only actual veteran from old Squaresoft in the company right now, if there's someone who knows how to make quality games in there it's him.

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>>389041351
holy shit they found a way to make FF15 even worse
LMFAO

>>389064967
How was Scarlet good?

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>>389064809
When they outlaw lottery tickets.

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>>389041351
BUY MY GAME AND MY CUP NOODLES

>>389065337
It isn't

Literal grindfest, confused customization systems and way too much poitnless text. Just play Bravely Default if you want a modern turn based game.

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What went wrong?

>>389065337
Great, unique battle system, new overall Free Scenario system, amazing non linearity and event variation, content, music, character design and roster size, lots of throwbacks and references sneaked in here and there.

My only problems with it are that it's badly optimized so it struggles to keep running at 60 FPS sometimes, enemy variation is also a bit low and some enemies' models got evidently recycled due to lack of time, the commerce minigame also felt tacked on and not really interesting outside of the general lore bits it gives you, but you can completely ignore it anyway.
If it didn't have those technical problems it would be a 10/10, I blame Squenix for cutting the development schedule as they always do and not let Kawazu polish the graphical side of the game and optimize it to run better.
>>389065989
What are you even talking about?

what the hell happened
Japan used to make amazing fantasy games, not just Final Fantasy
now they make this shit
weeb shit
visual novels
and
softcore porn games

All Japs seem to be doing is emulating what Americans are doing so now every main stream big Japanese title is OPEN WORLD full of EMPTY. If I want western shit I'll buy western shit.

This looks like hot garbage though OP and that footage looks like it's running 10 FPS even with shit graphics like that and literally no animation. Just how shitty is the Switch?

>>389064967
Kawazu's games are all retarded, it's very easy to end up in unwinnable situations. You either read a guide or replay the game, that isn't good design. At one point he admitted he puts end-game enemies near the start of the game just because he thinks it's funny to have the player fight them and die.

>>389066096
Not enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsFFlyC4i64

>>389066296
>Kawazu's games are all retarded
The only thing retarded here is you.
>At one point he admitted he puts end-game enemies near the start of the game just because he thinks it's funny to have the player fight them and die.
Nice fanfiction.

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>>389060105
I am Setsuna is probably one of the most average games every made. I'd say forgettable too, but it's memorable simply because it's so average and neutral. It's the kind of game that you play when you need to kill time and have absolutely nothing else you could do otherwise.

It's like they sat down and planned exactly how they could make an indisputably 5/10 game.

>>389066296
This.

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>>389066204
>what the hell happened

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>>389066204
>We want to appeal to a broader audience.

>>389066296
Maybe you should stop grinding then.

>>389067078
Or just pick up a well designed game where skill can triumph over not having the right setup.

>>389067078
He's just baiting, he doesn't even play SaGa games and just wants to shitpost.
>>389067156
>Implying there's something like a right setup in SaGa

>>389067156
That is what I am saying, stop grinding.

>>389041351

>People actually believe OP

>>389067303
At least you admit the game is so badly designed that you get punished for doing battles. The other guy is just delusional

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>mfw I just watched the Omen trailer since the game released

We didn't deserved this.

>>389067419
>At least you admit the game is so badly designed that you get punished for doing battles.
You don't get punished for doing battles though.

>>389067485
>Maybe you should stop grinding then.
>That is what I am saying, stop grinding.

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Are there any other games like this or X/X-2 post 2010? I love these story driven, linear games with cutscenes sprinkled frequently.

>>389067581
What does that have to do with doing battles?
And like he said
>Grinding in a SaGa game
You must be a brainlet, either that or you never actually played a SaGa game and you're just shitposting.

>>389058508
DELETE THIS!

>>389067595
They are called walking simulators but let's be honest here, every mainline FF game, except X-2, XI and XIV, are linear story driven games.

>>389067581
Grinding isn't being punished for initiating battles. Grinding is purposefully going into battles repeatedly to gain more experience to make your characters stronger or gain more money to equip them. You can play all the SaGa games with going into battle with every monster you see and not come into an unwinnable situation. You cannot grind like in other JRPG's expecting to face stomp the game though.

>>389041351
What the fuck is this? Who made this? For what reason would they re-make a game not even a year after it's release? Why the fuck is this minecraft level graphics?

>>389067595
Persona 5.

>>389067852
>Grinding is purposefully going into battles repeatedly to gain more experience to make your characters stronger or gain more money to equip them
Which you don't have to do to come across unwinnable situations. Glad we cleared that up

>>389066204
>Just how shitty is the Switch?
"Here is the first 20 minutes of gameplay for the mobile remake for Final Fantasy XV."

The Pocket Edition is a phone game and that's where this footage comes from.

>>389067993
Then give examples of these unwinnable situations. It isn't like the games don't allow you to save anywhere with multiple save slots so I am curious in what you got yourself into.

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>>389047975
>fucking asscreed costume
>their prototype outfits they had from the teaser/early trailer are still not in

>>389067852
I've never played a SaGa game but that sounds ass backwards. If a game has fun combat you'll want to battle frequently, not for grinding. If you're punished for doing so what's the point?

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>>389067993
>Which you don't have to do to come across unwinnable situations.
What does that have to do with battles, grinding or anything?
Seriously, have you actually played any SaGa game?
Battles in SaGa past the GB games don't even give you money, and if they do it's pocket change you can't even buy a potion with anyway, so that point hardly even applies to SaGa games.

>>389068310
Seems like you're missing the point: If you want to prevent grinding from curbstomping then balance the stats to not allow that, like well designed games do. LITERALLY punishing the player for the act of playing the game is shit design and why no one with taste takes Kawazu seriously

>>389068213
You are punished for grinding low tier enemies, you are rewarded with fighting bosses and stronger enemies due to growth mechanics. You gain more stats and have a higher chance to learn new skills mid battle the tougher the opponent. If you play it like any other JRPG and try to grind certain sections for good measure enemies can out pace you since enemies that are weaker yield little to no stat boosts and almost no chance to spark new skills.

>>389068454
What JRPG's that allow grinding prevent the player from curb stomping the game?

>>389068143
what's the difference?

>>389068213
>If a game has fun combat you'll want to battle frequently, not for grinding. If you're punished for doing so what's the point?
SaGa games past the GB games have a system called Battle Rank which makes the monsters grow stronger as you do, that doesn't mean you can't grind(why would you do that is beyond me anyway), what that means is that the game punishes you from playing it safe and grinding low tier enemies since they don't give you stat ups anymore at some point while the Battle Rank keeps increasing, that is simply solved by fighting strong enemies constantly and challenging yourself.
There are a ton of other systems that reward you from fighting strong enemies like Sparking and so on, all that SaGa does is simply keeping out the easy mode for brainlets, especially since they stopped working on a EXP base since a long time so you can't grind Metal Slimes to become overpowered like in DQ.
You totally can grind in SaGa if you want to, but you must learn how to do it, you can't put autopilot like this brainlet here>>389068454 and think the game will play itself for you.
>>389068454
>If you want to prevent grinding from curbstomping then balance the stats to not allow that, like well designed games do.
What your tiny peacock brain can't understand is that SaGa does that to begin with, so that you don't need to grind at all, but you're too much of a drooling retard to understand that.
>and why no one with taste takes Kawazu seriously
Says nobody ever, he's literally one of the most admired and revered devs in Japan and SaGa is by far considered elder god tier.

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>>389052642
Are sonygros the most ignorant and vile species on /v/?

>>389066204
>what the hell happened
There's only names now, no talent behind them. Squaresoft is over.

>>389069523
There's talent but shitty directors like Tabata and the higher-ups mismanage them.

Its not for the Switch

>>389069474
You already know the answer to your question, anon.

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>>389069474
I find both Nintendo and Sony fans to be kinda obnoxious (at least on here).

>>389069523
>There's only names now, no talent behind them.
There's still some talented devs like Takai or Kawazu, Squenix is still trying to tidy up the mess that happened during the Wada days, this is why they're slowly dusting off all the old IPs like Seiken and trying to test the waters with a few new IPs like Octopath.
We'll see how that goes.

>>389069637
Who isnt a shitty director and its still under SE umbrella?

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>>389069763
>its a roach
>and it's eating a burger (basically what the ps4 looks like

This shit isn't a coincidence. If only someone could give it the sony beanie.

>>389070124
I honestly can't tell if you're joking or not.

>>389070053
I wasnt talking about directors per se, but the Tokyo Team are still around, they were just mismanaged with the Versus/XV bullshit and then handed over to Tabata who forced them to make the game worse to appeal to a wider audience.

Nomura has his A-guys on FF7R, namely Mitsunori Takahashi who is credited for KH2FM so it's something to look out for. http://gematsu.com/2017/02/final-fantasy-vii-remake-producer-yoshinori-kitase-talks-progress-weekly-famitsu

>>389070389
So there isnt one, which is what i fear. You cant have a good product on these scales if the guy coordinating the effort doesnt have it.
But personally, iwanted to see the guy behind XIV do a main single player ff. Because he saved that game and its the most FFish FF i played in ages.
I'd also give Tabata another shot, this time with a project from start to finish.

>>389070880
It's hard to evaluate Nomura because he is at the center of SE's incompetent management, he hasn't had a chance to actually make a console game since KH2. One thing that's certain though is he has incredible people who would follow him wherever he goes. Mitsunori Takahashi, Tatsuya Kando, Takayuki Ohdachi, Shimomura, and Noijma to name a few. That's why I'm optimistic about the remake.
>I'd also give Tabata another shot
Absolutely not. He made XV bad *on purpose*, literally forced the team to dumb it down from the demos and program enemies to act "realistic" over good hit tells or consistent hitstun.

>>389066204
>>389069523

Nier Automata came out this year you know. Stop pretending like the bad shit is the only shit we have.

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>>389066630
what about this? you'll be supporting it if you want SE to make new RPGs that aren't part of an established series right?

>>389071325
You really think the guy complaining about softcore porn games wants to play Automata?

>>389051450
>4 hours later, people still think the game is coming out on Switch