Pathologic

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>>389036836
Can't wait

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>>389036836
Polyhedron is just fucking gorgeous.

>>389037657
Is that from the alpha or is the alpha the same as Marble Nest?

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>>389038092
The alpha isn't out yet. They did just present their latest build at Gamescon or whatever is the damn game conference this weekend called - that would be the exact same build OP's footage has been taken from too. The TinyBuild guy promised that should the gamescon reception be positive this weekend, they will make the same build available for the alpha backers very soon.

The pic you are asking about almost definitely isn't from Marble Nest, and the current build presented on Gamescon (and in the future alpha) are different from Marble Nest.

In an unrelated news: OP, I fucking hate you, I'm well too fucking fucking hangover to do Pathologic thread right now.

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>>389036836
Expecting great things out of this one.

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>>389038785
>whatever is the damn game conference this weekend called
that would be PAX

>>389039051
>that would be PAX
Sure, fine. As I said, way too fucking sick for this shit right now.

>>389039029
Yeah, between Marble Nest and the absolutely fantastic looking most recent footage, I'm very hopeful too.

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>>389038785
It is from The Marble Nest actually. They got out an update during PAX East 2017 which textured and remodeled Polyhedron.

>>389040535
Really? Is that update publicly available?

>>389040618
I mean if you got the demo from Steam it should be updated.

>>389040670
Awesome, I'll check that out as soon as I get back at my computer. I did not expect them to actually update the Marble Nest anymore.

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>>389040618
>>389040670
https://mega.nz/#!ftRFVAob!Po55bg64MQrskCXec2Izmd8Uz8ykKNGoxzkE2MAhtTY
The Demo link was removed from the Steam page for some reason, so if you don't already have it downloaded you can get it from this link.

>>389041536
Thanks, I'll save it for others. Thankfully I downloaded the damn thing pretty much the minute it was available on Steam. A

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This looks sick. I'm almost glad I put off playing the original.

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>>389042058
You'll have serious regrets about that.

>>389042058
>This looks sick.
Interesting choice of words.

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>>389042058
Main story will differ though, we don't know how much but it will. I would recommend you to give it a try.

>>389036836
looks strangely comfy as fuck, usually never imprssed with new titles but this walking simulator seems nice enough.

>>389043025
Yeah, the original had this too. I mean it's brutal and incredibly depressing at the same time, but there is this sense of odd melancholy and almost-a-comfort about it too. It's one of the perfect autumn games.
Be careful about the "walking sim" label though. It's... well on one hand it's INCREDIBLY appropriate, and on the other it's about as wrong as you can get.

>>389043382
well your response raised more questions than it answered, but that's great. I never played the original so ill just keep my eye on this and play it without reading any reviews. The trailer seemed to have plenty of interesting things to witness. I just hope they dont pad the mechanics, animations or models so it stays fresh enough. I think short and sweet is preferable to (too) long and drawn out in this kind of game.

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>>389043025
>walking simulator
Bad meme

>no weirdbutgood OST
don't like this

>>389043554
>I think short and sweet is preferable to (too) long and drawn out in this kind of game.
The original definitely gave me a feeling of being too long for its own good, clocked in about 45 hours on one playthrough. Still a very cool and unique game though.

>>389043554
Uh... Pathologic was and will be about 70+ hours long: it's a massive, very lenghty game, though you don't really necessarily have to complete all of it.
It's also a survival sandbox game mechanically, not just a a stroller simulator. The original was pretty fucking hard at times, in fact.
You DO spend a tremendeous amount of time walking. In fact it's what most people remember from the game. Walking. Slowly, Back and forth, back and forth. For majority of those 15 hours or more that you need to complete just one of the three scenarios.

>>389043025
>walking simulator
That's how it starts, as a literal walking simulator. Then slowly you start running away from looters and zombies, and eventually you're gunning innocents to find something to eat.

The gameplay changes and evolves a whole fucking lot throughout the game until you cannot recognize it anymore. Rest assured, it's no walking simulator.

Pathologic 2 Announcement Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qekTbTpUsFs&spfreload=5

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>>389043632
The music in the Marble Nest was pretty good, but it feels more ambient than in the original game.
I liked how the original OST had distinct themes for every area.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BquYupe8YrE

>>389043632
I think The Marble Nest's OST is pretty weird and good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVwnA6toFSQ

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>>389044442
>>389044452
I thought the OST was 10/10

>>389043849
>>389043829

that sounds not so good. Most games nowadays can't handle the pacing. For some reason there was more room for fun interactive environments and creative map building when there wasn't such a heavy focus on huge teams and big graphics.

I'll try it anyway but this sounds not so good

>>389043862
Sounds great! But please no more spoilers. I've played assloads of these kind of games.

>>389045858
Just remember going in that this game is loved for the story, atmosphere and mystery, not the gameplay.

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Any Russianons here ? IPL have posted this on their vk page :

>Friends!
>This Sunday, September 3, at 19:00 we will hold an online meeting. This is an event for which we start a separate group, we all gather together, then you ask the most urgent questions, and we ironically joke. This time, however, we'll try to laugh a little less.
>If you want to participate in the action, join here:
(can't post link because of spam filter)
>Further instructions will be there. If you can not participate, do not worry: we'll post a compilation of questions and answers later.

>>389036836

them some accurate soldier noises at the start

>>389043632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEr87pFVcRU

>>389042058
Go play it anyway.

I really don't like survival open world games because of how saturated the market has become and it's usually kinda pointless, just survive until you don't.
Yet, this game tends to garner a lot of love. Sell me on this. What sets it apart? Is there an actual point or is it just "survive"?

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>>389050109
The original game came out in 2005, well before the recent wave of early access survival bullshit. The main difference is that Pathologic has a rich story with shittons of dialogue. The survival aspect is in service of the narrative.

>>389050109
it's open world in the sense that you can go anywhere you want on the map (with a few exceptions) and you can choose not to do quests and things and the game will continue on without you. In every other respect it isn't at all.

There's a very definite plot and it's an incredible one, split into 3 perspectives of 3 characters. Each day things get worse, you get a new set of objectives to carry out which yes, you can fail them or not do them and you won't game over, but named characters will get sick and die, people who could have helped you later on. So yeah you can fuck around in the steppe and pick flowers or sleep for a week straight, but you'll come back to a town that's stacked high with rotting corpses and no way to avoid the worst possible ending. And the survival bit really just means that you have hunger/exhaustion/infection meters and need to eat/sleep/drug yourself to stay alive, as well as health and immunity.

tl;dr it's not open world and it's not really survival in either traditional sense.

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Holy fuck it looks fantastic, just take all my fucking money

>>389050685
>>389050621
Alright, I'll try the HD version. The atmosphere did make me curious.

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>>389050109
It's basically a 3D visual novel with survival mechanics and a timer.
Most of the game is walking around and talking to people.

>>389050109
Its not a plotless open world like Don't Starve, for example. It's not even open world, well technically you can go anywhere, but you have an agenda every new day, and the time won't stand still if you fuck around.

>>389051041
Best of luck. I recommend starting with the Bachelor, he's the better introduction. For the first day only you have to complete the main daily quest, it's the only time you can get a non-death game over if you fail it. For plot reasons.

>>389051041
Good luck, anon. Its recommended to start off as Bachelor unless you plan on getting confused about the lore, although Haruspex is more gameplay-driven

>>389051041
Play the Bachelor on your first go because he's basically the tutorial character. The first day is the tutorial day and it's shit because it's all exposition and nothing really happens. Make sure to buy lots of food on the first day. Nothing you find is worthless-- trade it all.

The multiple Pathologic threads I've seen all full of actual discussion coupled with the trailer has convinced me to give the game a shot.
Downloading now, wish me luck.

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Post your favorite music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6R8bZUUDno

>>389050685
You forgot to mention that you can quite literally do anything. If you want, you can become a beggar and live your entire life within the game through that route, which is 100% feasible. Think of all the professions that exist in the real world; those are the things you can do in this game. This is the type of game that actually allows you to climb the mountains in the distance.

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>>389051041
>>389051503
Take this niggas.

If someone's got the infographic, do post it.

>>389051503
Good luck to you also. Other general tips include always checking garbage cans for tradeable items, there's a lot you can only get or can get cheaply from trading with townspeople.

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>>389047959
>footage from the new demo
>titled "Pathologic 2"
>unlisted
>uploaded three months ago

Where did you find this?

>>389051916
That track's from Marble Nest, a one-off demo of ideas for the remake they put out while working on the remake, which has now been retitled Pathologic 2. Confusing, I know.

>>389051916
I thought it was footage of Marble Nest, but I never played that so I don't know. Someone on reddit reuploaded it and included that link in the description.

Their translation of the text in the video:
Playing in an infected state gradually increases reverb and chorus effects
While standing still, music fades to silence and only ambient sounds remain
After walking for 5 seconds, a rhythmic "walking theme" starts
Different districts in town feature different musical themes

9/10 times i come to /v/ hoping to find a good game to play i don't. it's really not the place for that

this time you helped me thank you guys

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>>389051916
Inquisitor is the purest waifu

>>389050109
It's story based. If you really wanted to, you could just "survive" for the entire game (12 days) and the game would end.

>>389052268
Cheers. Give The Void a shot also if you're looking for something with the same kind of feel, it's by the same guys. More surreal and a little more unforgiving, but less ugly and better as a game.

Anyone else in the same boat of having played the original for a dozen hours or so, heard about the remake and been holding off on finishing
I know the story will change by some unknown amount but I'm cursed when it comes to replaying games so I don't want to ruin the chance of a much better experience overall

>>389052629
We're at least a year away from the actual release, just play the game baka

If it's going to be called Pathologic 2, would it be unreasonable to assume that the changes from the first will be somewhat significant? In terms of story, at least?

>>389052810
We don't know. It will still have the same characters (though they may not all be the same people), places, and main story beats (shit like the plague's origins and the Polyhedron are probably essential) but anything else is fair game for renovation.

It may even be aware that it is a remake via time loops or meta fuckery, I wouldn't put it past IPL.

The dev messages all seem to imply it's a remake from the ground up, however, not just a grafix and model overhaul.

>>389052194
I've played the Marble Nest, that video showed areas that weren't in it.

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>>389052810
Its pratically a new game, in terms of gameplay original Pathologic was very barebones
>talk to people
>check out trashcans
>molest children
thats what you do 90% of time

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>>389052629
I picked up HD last year after seeing a thread like this. There's a more mystifying factor to the original IMO, I was really drawn to playing it. I had no desire to never play it and simply wait for a modern version.

And from what I've gathered, the "remake" is more of a "reimagining".

I'm playing Marble Nest for the first time right now
>IPL listened to the complaints and added in a sprint button
>sprinting is only about as fast as walking in the original game
Madmen

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I hope there's more stuff to do out in the steppes.

>>389052541
>The Void
looks cool, thanks again

>>389053293
How's the polish translation?
I've been playing Bachelor for quite a while with english text, since first hour or so of polish seemed kinda sketchy. It felt like they translated it from the old shitty english version.

>>389036836
Christ, i've played the original shortly after release. They're literally selling remaster named as a 2nd game to westerners. I'm sorry you have to see this.

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>>389054075
English, that was just a picture in my folder.

>>389052541
Try some stuff from KD-Lab, also a long dead Russian developers. Vangers, Perimeter.

>>389054085
friend I don't think you understand. the devs have been planning/working on a remake from the ground up for many years now. the "2" business is just some dumbass publisher rebranding issue.

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>>389036836
How're my steppe-bros today?

Should we try to perform the ritual to summon the Great Watcher of IPL discussions and elder god of translation?

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>>389036836

I thought this was a remake, why 2?

We all know there can be no continuation to the original story?

>>389055645

They supposedly want to avoid confusion with the Remake and the HD version so they placed a 2 in the end.

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>>389038092
Here's Marble Nest.

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>>389038785
But anon... when feeling unwell it is the ideal time to go out onto the steppe...

So what the fuck IS twyrine, anyway?

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>>389055367
What's the ritual, steam messages ?
God, who'd have thought he'd come back after all this time.

>>389055645
The name was changed after IPL announced their new publisher, so I expect it's because of them.
"To alleviate confusion", they say.

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>>389042058
Might be worth trying the original. It's not a fun game to play but if you click with it, you'll find it fascinating.

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>>389050109
It doesn't care about you. It will actively fuck you over and make you miserable. If you meet it on its own conditions then you'll find either a story and atmosphere that you'll love (like many of us here do) or you'll be utterly baffled and miserable. Either way, the game still did what it wanted to you.

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>>389039029

>make the game look beautful and comfy
>gameplay still works around the timer so I can't enjoy everything since I'm running everywhere

I can never finish this game because it feels like I have to be rushing everywhere. I'll definitely give it a good go once the HD remake come out though

>>389051503
Remember to talk to characters until you exhaust all dialogue options. After finishing one dialogue, select the character again in case they have more to say. If you click on the character portrait as well you'll be able to get information about the person.

Make sure to complete the main task on day one otherwise it is game over. You can fuck up *everything* else apart from that.

>>389043570
This.It's more of a running away from rats simulator.

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>>389052440
Aglaya is for Artemy. I wonder if she's modelled on someone for remake, given that Artemy is modelled on Nikolay it'd be fun to know.

>>389056436
>why can't a game about surviving through a plague be nicer to me :'(
Back to Skyrim, faget

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>>389053938
There should be. It was one of the achieved stretch goals.

Playing "name that smell" with the Odonghs while pissed on twyrine could be interesting.

>>389056027
Happy make pain go away juice.

>>389056497
>If you click on the character portrait as well you'll be able to get information about the person.
WHAT

>>389056436
Maybe that's one way you could play the game. Just giving up and waiting for the end.

Gives you motivation for playing as another character.

>>389036836
This looks great, but I'm not sure if a modern game would really be able to capture the surreal, low-budget freakiness of the first one

>>389056952
Took me ages to learn it and only found it out by accident. You get little quotes from other characters that'll give you a biased view of the person, just to fuck with you a bit more and encourage curiosity.

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>>389056871
Yeah but whatever's in it is enough to make a man dream up the blueprints for a building that defies the laws of, well, everything. Or maybe Stamatin was already a genius loony and it just unlocked his full lunacy.

>>389056027
Alcohol made from twyre
>>389056497
>If you click on the character portrait as well you'll be able to get information about the person.
what? I had no idea and I finished the game 4 times
>>389056778
>no expanded abbatoir
>no expanded termitary
damn...

>>389057010
Have you had a chance to try Marble Nest? The tone and atmosphere aren't as strong as the original but it's an early build that I think shows it is on its way to succeeding.

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>>389057104
Maybe someone slipped the kids something to calm them down and it was too much for them, that exaggerated strength manifested as the mind altering twyrine in their game?

I just finished the bachelor last night, is it worth playing as another character? if so which one? That being said,I don't know if I have it in me to put another 30 hours into walking around.

>>389057457
Silly anon. Bachelor is only tutorial.

>>389057220
Haven't played it yet, but I'll check it out

Pathologic's atmosphere is very enthralling to me so I'd be very pleased if they do manage to recapture it

>>389057457
Don't you have to complete both Dankovsky's and Burakh's routes to unlock Clara's? In any case, pick the Haruspex.

>>389057457
YES! Artemy's route will teach you about the weird fucked up traditions of the town, you'll get a romance (possibly) and you learn more about the politics of the factions.

Clara's route will just be a mindfuck and either a slaughter or a desperate battle for survival, depending on how you play her.

It's worth it.

>>389056056
It's kind of magical, isn't it? One guy is still remembered after all these years. And he still comes back as if nothing is changed.

>>389057694
Either Dankovsky or Artemy will unlock Clara.

>>389046527
>>389045858
I like the gameplay too, IPL makes actually non-meme hard games, especially The Void has really great gameplay.

>>389057445
Maybe the twyrine was made from steppe flowers that grew right on top of the plague bloodmass and they got a minor dose of the plague itself from it. Poetic justice, ne?

>>389057457
Burakh plays very differently from Bachelor.

>>389052629
It's supposedly not exactly the same game, so definitely keep playing the original.

Also play The Void.

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>you can never defeat the plague, only slow its advance
>high and mighty morality, ideology or religion won't help you
>the best you can do is to simply do your duty to your fellow man and the city

>>389057918
I don't think Pathologic had very good gameplay, but yeah, The Void is killer. It's so extremely different from really anything else, it makes it feel like you're learning how to play an FPS all over agian.

>>389057991
It'd make sense for that layer of the narrative. I'm always curious though as to what the meanings are from the second narrative layer's perspective, if the flowers grew already infected to some degree then it could refer to to constant fear of mortality and how alcohol can dull as well as exacerbate the fears?

>>389058135
Or stock up on food and sleep at Lara's for twelve days, occasionally going out at night to chase dogs and stab bandits in the throat.

>>389058162
By gameplay I don't just mean the rooty tooty point n shooty bits, but also the management aspects, especially playing as Burakh this is conveyed well.

>>389058442
t. Cottard

The mad man

The Void's rune-drawing reminded me a lot of Arx Fatalis. It unfortunately sort of had the same problem where sometimes the dipshit AI wouldn't register the rune being drawn correctly because you needed to be a few pixels higher/lower somewhere so you ended up wasting COLOR PRECIOUS COLOR FILL YOUR SPLEEN WITH GREEN I MAKE YOU BETTER.

>>389058123
But it's so obtuse

>>389058572
Now I really want a section where the character conducts an autopsy on themself in a delirious state.

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>Can't find a single download link to The Marble Nest
Am I going insane?

>>389058696
Play while drunk. It'll just quietly absorb into you that way.

>>389058804
See>>389041536

>>389058804
They seem to have removed it for now.

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>>389058347
The fear of death was always there, just like the giant clot of blood. Sitting and waiting for the right opportunity to come to the surface, i.e. the Polyhedron. But bits of it trickle in one way or another over time, you can't fully ignore the fear forever. I think you're right about how alcohol can both dull and exacerbate that fear though. Excessive drinking is a sure way to kill yourself but drinking makes living (especially as a broke Russian out in the steppes) easier. It's like it puts you in a state closer to death? More attuned to the world of concepts rather than the world of objective laws?

I dunno, I'm only spitballing here. It would be a neat extra twist.

>>389058816
What sort of person plays games sober. It turns out I have it in my library so maybe this was fate

>>389058994
There's a part of me that would really like to have it established what the era or setting the children are playing their game in is. Knowing the social aspects and climate could allow for even more interpretation of why certain things are present or appear the way they are. Then there's the part of me that doesn't want to know too much and just likes to wonder. I guess it could be done with more subtle hints - instead of meeting the authorities in the garden you could meet them in their home or at the wake? What are funerary customs in Russia?

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>>389059293
>>389058816
I confess the first time I played The Void I was pretty high and it was a magical experience. Alcohol works too. Not too much though, whatever gives you a slow burn kind of feeling. You need to be able to appreciate the hopelessness of it all.

>>389059293
Someone that doesn't want to through the controller through the screen when playing Hatsune Miku.

>>389059498
I can add to that. If you play Pathologic while ill, particularly with a fever it really, really gets under your skin - particularly with the music in infected districts and the sound of pustules oozing and popping.

>>389059482
I think maybe they wanted it free of any of those signifiers so that it could be a timeless/cultureless thing? It can be anyone's experience with death as opposed to a specific couple of russkie kids' experience.

I don't know myself, I don't know much at all about Russia except little bits and impressions I've picked up from fiction. There's an article I read recently about their approach to death that was super informative and interesting, I'll see if I can dig it up again.

>>389059625
These hands weren't made for rhythm games. I'll probably end up playing Pathologic HD any way, I love buying games

>>389059885
That'd be great if you can find it. I think you've got it right as well - not dating it to an era makes more sense for something that will be made available to different nations and times.

>>389059885
It's really not timeless, it's very much like a late 19th - early 20th century Russian setting, evident to anyone that's read even a little literature from that time period.

>>389060030
I have difficulty getting people to believe that Pathologic, Hatsune Miku Diva F and Darwinia are my favourites. Hope you enjoy Pathologic, or at least find it interesting!

>>389060169
For the town. You can date it by the rifles that are used. I'm thinking more about the era that the kids are playing their game in.

>>389060306
It looks like the real world in The Void

>>389060169
>timeless
I don't mean the City and the steppe setting itself, that much is quite obvious. I mean the ending with the Powers That Be in the sandbox. I'm not sure how much of the specifics I remember of the ending so do correct me if I'm wrong, but the kids didn't seem to drop much in the way of hints as to whether they were in the same "world" as the rest of the game. It's easy to assume, sure, but the whole "plague as a metaphor for death/loss and the events of the game as coping solution" thing doesn't seem like it's tied to any particular time and place.

>>389060456
How far up on the Chain do you think our world/the real world is, I wonder.

I'm going to miss the Berdan rifle...

>>389060690
Such is for philosophers and priests to ponder is it not?

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>>389060690
The very top, obviously. This is the final heaven.
To pretend otherwise is heresy. You're no heretic, are you ?

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>>389060690
If they are interconnected then there are a wealth of possibilities.

inb4: all a dream in a buddies mind

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>>389061003
>life is all a dream in a naked retarded midget babby's mind, cooked up for the FUN of it
I WANT TO BELIEVE

Knock knock 2 when?

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>>389061875
>tfw still haven't played Knock-Knock
I even bought it on release date and just never got around to it

>>389060054
Sorry mate, I can't seem to find it. Search keywords are buried under a mountain of stories about rampant death in Russia and there wasn't anything specific about the article I could use to narrow it down.

The gist of it was the indifference and inevitable-ish attitudes towards death that were shared by a lot of Russians, where even as the country stabilized somewhat it still wasn't followed by population booms or anything. And medical advances and technological overhauls didn't improve lifespan averages by as much as they should have, so the writer posited that there was a sort of weary resignation going on. That people had lost the will to go on.

>>389062351
It wouldn't happen to be this, by any chance ?
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2014/09/02/dying-russians/

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>>389062514
Shit man, that's it! How'd you know? I have a vague feeling like it was posted in these threads ages ago or somehow connected to a Pathologic article.

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>>389063176
Must have been something like that. Your description rang a bell, so I checked the bookmarks saved in my IPL folder, but I couldn't tell where it's from either.

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>>389063490
Neat. I'm convinced there's like a dozen regulars to IPL threads that've been the same people for the last god knows how many years.

>>389062351
>>389062514
Great find!

Are you cucks ready for the return of the bull?

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>>389064616
HELL YEAH

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>>389064616
I'm ready to beat him up again.

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Have we seen any hi-def/updated versions of this little cutie yet?

>>389064616
prepping as we speak

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>>389065000

>>389064616
I'm ready to punch him out again

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>>389064616

>>389063949
It's nice to have these get-togethers now and then. Would be good if some of the IPL team (English fluent) would join in.

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>>389063949
Like moths drawn to a flame, whenever there's a new thread. That's what makes pathologic threads so comfy, it's like sitting around a bonfire and telling stories. The rest of the time we're only anon, but in one of these threads it's almost like meeting old friends. Sometimes you can even identify them only from the way they write, right ?

>>389065612
It reminds me a little of the old Demon's Souls threads from years ago

>>389065612
We need "actor" guy from when Marble Nest was released. Cheeky fucker was trying to slip rule 34 in the threads.

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>>389065000
yfw you have no face after talking to it

>>389064727
>>389064763
Wait wait wait. Who the hell is that?

>>389065076
>hooves
Honestly, thank god

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>>389063949
It's the only reason I still check /v/ somewhat regularly. Although, I've only been into IPL since around October 2016.

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>>389065612
>Sometimes you can even identify them only from the way they write, right
N-nope, nossir, not at all.

>>389066131
Oyun. From Haruspex's route. Shit diverges considerably.

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>>389066246
The lines... the lines diverge.

Reposting some box art as well if anyone wants it.

>>389066131
Literally the only boss fight in the game, I guess you only played the tutorial scenario (Bachelor)

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>>389066557
That's rather unfair to Danil. It's not like you have a degree.

I fucking hate the children bit, it's fucking retarded and I wish I'd never unlocked it. The meta-theatrics are much better.

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Possible one for the remake as well, just titled "Pathologic".

Would need a different blurb as well I guess.

>>389066668
Always been a little perplexed by this, as it's explicitly stated that Burakh is in fact also a student of medicine.

>>389066235
Same here, I've tried to be a part of IPL threads since about a year.
It's always pure enjoyment reading through those, as opposed to other threads on /v/

>>389041536
steam://install/607730
This link to Demo still works, btw. Took it from SteamDB

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>>389036836
Блядь дыбoвcкий дaжe пиндocких мeмoв нaдeлaл, чтoбы мop пиapить нa фoчaнe.

>>389066940
I guess it comes down to how they define themselves. Daniil is foremost a "scientist". Artemy seems less fussed about the titles.

>>389066547
>>389066734
Oh shit I remember you. These are top quality, you do us all a great service.

>>389066940
>>389066668
Is it stated in the game that Burakh doesn't have a degree? I thought his whole deal was that he left the town to study and become a surgeon, which is why he knows how to dissect people. He barely even remembers the town when he first arrives, he's almost as much an outsider as Dankovsky

>>389067114
Yes, but I've always found it odd how Dankovsky treats him almost like some witch doctor maniac when he's pretty much just as educated as himself and has lived in the capital for a decade or so.

>>389067114
Artemy also goes around town eviscerating muggers and drunks and stuffing their guts into a dripping sack filled with like 50 kidneys. Different methods indeed.

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>>389067064

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>>389066557
>Bachelor only gets one chance to go into the Abbatoir
>Immediately gets his ass kicked by the butchers
>"AAAH COMMANDER SAVE ME"
>Meanwhile Haruspex is allowed to come and go as he pleases while Changeling has to do random shit for Taya each time she wants in

Place might as well have a "No Bachelor's Allowed" sign

>>389067173
"It's not like you have a degree" comes from The Marble Nest >>389054163 It's classic sardonic Dankovsky.

>>389067332
Which is actually the most productive endeavour of all of them and is crucial to Bachelor's own research.

Burakh strikes me as more a traditional than a modern surgeon; more of an artisan than an academic.

>>389067141
Thanks. If they can decide on a blurb or people come up with a good one I'll update the remake one with it. I'm wondering if it's better to stick with calling it Pathologic or giving it a subtitle - use the original Russian name perhaps - Pathologic: The Utopia? "Pathologic 2" just doesn't sound right.

>>389067414
I'll translate
>Blyad' (Fuck) Dybovsky have put 'merican (slurish Amerika, dunno how corretly to translate, sorry)
memes, so that Pathologic would be shilled on 4chan

>>389067592
I feel like excessive subtitles, especially of the non-informative kind, are something to be avoided.

>>389067439
That is because Dankovsky is neither a big buff man or a dangerous witch, people naturally do not respect pencil neck geeks like him.

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>>389067312
Argument could be made that we are treated in the way that we let ourselves be treated and define ourselves further by it.

Daniil is supposed to be the most knowledgeable of the three but comes out at the end the most gormless of the three, swept up in events. Artemy is presented as a reluctant participant, a loner but can potentially be the most invested, a lover, a champion etc. and Clara is hailed as a saviour and a pestilence but ends up being more of a mirror to the town and the player.

>>389065612
There's that one dude that always talks about how good Kafka is. I still don't believe Kafka is that good, I just didn't like metamorphosis.

He did give me the name of my favorite art style magical realism, so I'll give him that.

>>389067810
I've got a version that just has cut aways of the town map on the back and little to no text. Would work as a nice box over the top of a case. I think I was just eager for a boxed edition of the remake and seeing as it's unlikely decided to play around with some images instead.

>>389067757
Thanks Alfina
t. dybovsky

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>>389067810
>Pathologic : origins
>Pathologic : Rise of the Menkhu
>Pathologic : the thing that came from the steppe
>P4THOLOGIC

>>389067973
I remember him. Gave a pretty good introduction to the magical realism style. Would be good if they were back when the remake gets released.

>>389068145
>Pathologic: You don't even have a degree

>>389067592
Pathologic 2: Electric Menkhu

god i hope they change it

>>389067880
Also his power tends to go only as far as the people that back him, unless he looses the plot and goes counter to the "professional" and "rational" behaviour that he is expected to conform to. Then he can be pretty effective.

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Have IPL ever commented on this backer reward?
>THE POLYHEDRAL ROOM. An unseen place available only to those clever enough (or perhaps honest enough) will open itself up to you. You’ll have to open yourself up to it though.

>>389068649
SOLD!

>>389068854
>Locking content behind Kickstarter rewards
Hella gay.

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>mfw it's been two years since I last played pathologic and I'm getting the urge to play it again

>>389068854
All we know is that it isn't something in-game.
It could be a weird stand-alone program like the one they gave out to knock-knock backers.

Oh hey a Pathologic thread
So when are you supposed to go to the town theatre to see the daily performances?

>>389069047
Not sure if it's a game content, but this sure is:
>AN EXCLUSIVE IN-GAME EVENT. The event is a non-essential, but very flavorful and special thing that makes sense in context. It’s like getting a slightly bigger game.
That's gay in my eyes.

>>389068854
Sounds like a non-existent reward for low-dollar backers. Like "You will have my eternal gratitude."

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>>389069243
Just pop in when you have the time.

>>389069243
At night, so any time after the cutoff for the daily quests I think. Like 11 pm - 2 am or something?

>>389036836
Wonder if a gt1030 can run this on ultra, doesn't look very demanding but what do i know.

So really, what's the point of these games?

>>389069939
What's the point of games?

>>389069939
Can you elaborate on this question? Like, what is the objective in the game? Or why does the game exist?

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As you've surely noticed, there's been quite a bit of confusion since they changed the name to pathologic 2.
>Is it a sequel ?
>Did they cancel the remake ?
>This looks good, but do I need to play the first one before ?
On top of that, people unfamiliar with Pathologic already get easily confused by the different versions : Pathologic, Pathologic Classic HD, Pathologic the Marble Nest, and now Pathologic 2...

For that reason, in the thread yesterday, I decided to make a new infographic, to give a detailed explanation about all these different versions, and tell new players why they should or shouldn't play classic HD before the remake.
Here it is, still in progress. Any thoughts or suggestions ?

The text is obviously filler for the moment.
There'll also be text next to the executor, along the lines of
>But aren't there like 5 versions ? Which one is the right ?
>Let's go through these by release date.

I think I'll also replace the classicHD cover with the right half of this one>>389066547.
I'll also add more runes in the top part, I just got lazy halfway through.

should the original or the HD remake be played?
are there any tips on translations?

>>389069939
If you're talking about Pathologic in general, to fill you with frustration and anxiety, I think. To simulate it, just as a horror game simulates fear.

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>>389069939
What's the point of any game?

>>389070367
Looks great, except you forgot to translate it. hah

>>389069243
12am-6am, I think.

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>>389068649
This is an extremely limited edition copy of the game.

DO NOT share.

>>389069243
00:00 - whenever the morning report comes, you aren't allowed after it shows up.

>>389069243
After midnight.

>>389070402
Classic HD, it's the same game only now it's comprehensible. If you mean whether you should wait for the remake or play the original, it's hard to say since there's nothing to compare.

>>389070367
Glad you kept on working on it! Thank you for your efforts. I got the banners for the case insert from the game's website. You might need to use an archived version of it though.

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>>389071121
10/10 gave me a good cackle.

>>389070402
(Original) Original if you've got an XP machine to play on and don't mind a massive headache. Classic HD if you actually want to be able to understand and stably play the game.

>>389036836
>Tinybuild
This alone, and them pressuring IPL to change the name, is a worrying sign. I doubt the game itself will be impacted significantly at this point, but it's definitely a dampener in terms of the community.

>>389071121
Nice one actor!

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>>389070367
Here's the Classic HD cover with the blurb etc. removed - saves you the hassle.

Is the demo it's own thing or is it just part of the main game?

>>389072947
own thing

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>Pathologic threads gets easy 100+ replies
>The void gets nothing
Step your game up, /v/.

>>389070367
Good but the big gradient at the bottom is ugly. I'd make it a solid grey with faded dark runes which would sort of tie it with this one >>389051835
(maybe use the same gold rune + trim at the bottom as well?).

I'd also keep the Classic HD image you already have there, since that's what people will see when they go to look it up.

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>>389073076
We usually talk about both anyway. Not enough posts to be exclusive.

>>389070367
I think the graph is perfect.

You wanna play pathologic? Go fuck yourself, figure it out retard. here's some random gibberish

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>>389073076
I've tried making The Void threads, and honestly, there just isn't that much to talk about anymore. Pathologic has at least had some news for the last little while

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I bought the board game, it took 3 hours for me and my friends to figure out the rules

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>tfw like the overall setting/aesthetic of the game but scared that I might not like it or lose interest.

>>389073381
What are the sisters exactly? All I can see is that one brings war, another one a ice age maybe etc.

>>389042135
>delet this

>>389036836
I thin I prefer the original's soundtrack. Sounded out of place in the best way possible.

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>>389074498
One interpretation would be that since Color said that we are The Void, Sisters are how are going to approach our life after the event that put us in The Void.

>>389074498
Cute naked physical embodiments of specific combinations of emotions. "Muse" is a rather appropriate description in the ancient Greek myth sense. The colors they like govern their personalities, and what kind of new world they'll create if you choose to ascend them.

>>389074071
Which characters have art for them? How does it play?

>>389074071
At least it comes with something to listen to while you try to work out how the fuck to play it.
http://tabletop.pathologic-game.com/download/Pathologic-Boardgame-OST.mp3

>>389075163

God, more then anything else I love the monster design in the void.

I'm planning on stealing it, possibly wholesale, for monsters in my tabletop RPGs. Describing Titan or Ironclad coming out of the darkness in a dungeon to my players and watching them shit themselves would be like a dream come true.

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>>389070692
>>389073726
>not being fluent in the ancient steppe tongue
Bet you don't even have a degree either.

>>389072606
Thanks ! But now there's this to consider>>389073251
>that's what people will see when they go to look it up
Don't know which one I'll keep. I'll decide that at the end.

>>389073251
I try to avoid solid colors, but you're right, the bottom needs work. I'm thinking of making it blend in with another large image.
I'll definitely put the ornaments at the bottom, maybe not golden though.

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>>389075775
>titan
Don't you mean tyrant ?

>>389075912

Yeah, that's what I meant. I forgot the name.

does eva yahn ever put out? I brought her twyrine but the dialogue won't change

What do you think about some changes to the inventory - as it was shown in Marble Nest.

Along with the inventory slots that already exist for clothing and a weapon, how about having: Four clothing slots, (head, body, hands, feet) three weapon slots, (knife, revolver - as if in holster, long arm - as if on a sling) one or two ammo pouches (as from the soldiers load bearing harnesses that could be taken from a body or bought and to help better organise inventory) and a water canteen (to be bought and that can be refilled) - any suggestions?

>>389076376
The first night you're there, probably. Don't think so once the plague hits though since Bachelor is dutysexual and is too coked up to the gills on methadone for "night missions".

>>389076607
Needs some kind of food pouch and medic/first aid kit but it's pretty solid. Though I'd like to be able to stuff the food and weapon slots with bandages or ammo or something in case of emergencies, type-specific slots is a little too restrictive.

>>389077172
Would being able to stack more items or get multiple uses (from morphine or antibiotics for example) be a good middle ground?

>>389077450
Technically you can pour morphine one bottle to another or just put antibiotics into one box. So yeah.

>>389075181
Makes sense, but then "the sleeper" is a dead god? And who is godsend.

>>389077450
I would think so, yeah. I just don't want to be in a situation where I need to stock up on ammo to go raid abandoned houses and I can only fit so much ammo into my designated ammo pouches, but then there's like 5 empty slots for things like food and water and medicine that can't be used. It's not a dealbreaker thing, but I could see it being one of those niggly little immersion-chewing questions of "why can't I just ____"

>Go kill werewolf privjet
>"k ivan"
But where is gun? Wher is weapon?

I wonder if Vlad is okay..

>>389078624
He popped in yesterday's thread so he is still alive and well at least. or were you trying to summon him

>>389078006
Could fit odds and ends into the ammo pouches. Splitting the ammo pouches into four empty blocks like the pockets we already have in Marble Nest would be a good compromise? Water canteen for water though and weapon holsters strictly for weapons?

>>389078624
Vlad?

>>389079082
Looking at the gameplay trailer for 2 it looks like there's side pouches that you can fit smaller stuff into but not big things like weapons, but aren't specific for any type of object. Kinda reminds me of EYE's inventory system.

>>389079210
Translator project for the original Pathologic release.

>>389079612
It was pockets wasn't it? A backpack and pockets in jacket and trousers.

>>389079643
Oh.

>>389079773
Makes sense to me. You can slip a lung or two into your pockets but not a revolver, I guess?

>>389079996
Could use the pockets for a revolver until you find or buy a holster? Essentially a way to get the player to put the effort into upgrading their ability to carry more supplies.

If they're going to continue Artemy's mixing of organs they'll need a second bag to carry organs. No way is there enough space to carry enough organs with the current inventory limits.

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>>389080308
>Steppe Santa Claus roams the streets at night looking for fleshy tidbits to fill his sack with.

>>389080695
And the kids can't wait to receive their presents from him. We now have a seasonal DLC...

>>389081165
Get out of here Mr. Sacks, there is no zee here.

Anyone know if unity games are easily modable?

>>389078604
Ivan is weapon.

>>389076376
>does eva yahn ever put out?
All the time for the bachelor, I imagine. She's obsessed with him after all.

>the air is now visibly filled with some sort of substance, especially in the infected district
I imagine that's the sand pest? Either that or the pollen from the steppes, but it's probably the plague. Seems like using antibiotics will be necessary now.

Guys, how does time work in first game? Is it constantly moving?

>>389083296
I'm hoping they ditch the "whooshing" plague clouds.

The fine mist seems more appropriate.

>>389083685
>Is it constantly moving?
Yes. And no, you don't have enough time to fuck around too much.

>>389083685
Pauses for dialogue, keeps moving otherwise. There are parts where time will be automatically advanced as part of the story.

>>389083685
Yes, except when you're reading letters. It's relatively generous but not too much. Sometimes you'll have time to fuck around and explore and sometimes you won't.

>>389083685
Moves while in the town, inside any houses, while looting bodies, and while looking through inventory.

Stays still while in dialogue, when looking at map, when reading letters, when checking quests.

>>389083841
>>389083878
>>389083942
Got it. Thanks.
I hope I won't fuck up everything too much on my first try. Who am I kidding, I probably will.

>>389083942
Artemy gets some pretty tough time limits after day 7 as well.

>>389084162
If it's any consolation, the game intends you to fuck up. It will reward you for doing well but it knows you'll probably struggle.

>>389084162
>I hope I won't fuck up
You can't defeat the plague, anon. All you can do is your duty to yourself and the town.

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>>389084162
You will fuck up, you might as well resign yourself to it now. It'll be fun though. A learning experience.

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>>389084162
Farm thieves by night, stock up on food for the first day, sell curative items but keep a couple of weak ones around, stock up on bandages and tourniquets, expensive clothes are not worth it, trade with every single tiny blonde girl you see and buy the heart-shaped thing with a weird name ASAP if you spot it.

Boom, just saved you hours of tediousness, go knock yourself out.

>>389085329
And check clothing shops for needles to buy and then trade with the girls for powders (takes ten).

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>>389085329
>traded with every little blond girl I saw
>never once saw she had a shmowder
>still healed all adherents on final day and had 5 panaceas left

>>389086156
How do you even get panaceas

>>389086791
Aside from that one that Burakh gives you at some point after completing a quest.

>>389086791
Either from Artemy or made as him.

>>389086791
burah_serum 10

>>389057457
Haruspex, then the little girl.

>When you realize the potential of house robbing

You will never go hungry again.

>>389090012
B-but muh moral code!

>>389090127
*sneaks up behind burglar and stabs him*

>>389090127
You can't save the city if you're dead, anon.

>>389090012
>>389090127
Be interesting to see if they expand on the whole looting/desperation/morality angle.

Am I supposed to be getting a sort of stutter when I'm outside? Every step is marked by a small stutter in the framerate and it's getting on my nerves.

>>389090278
Exactly! This is a much more efficient and ethical method of requisitioning supplies!

>>389090295
>save the city
Oh you're funny guy.

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Honestly, this simple trick will make your Pathologic life 100% guaranteed easy as pie, so beware of abuse:
Break in houses to steal loot with lockpicks, they're really easy to get and you can find a variety of useful things, only men inside will attack you if they see you steal ((women run)), so you're guaranteed everything in the house. The stock of children living also refreshes if you leave and enter ((This is extremely abuseable!!)).

>>389090396
Are you playing Classic HD or the original release? The original release had issues with stuttering and lighting and conflicts with more recent hardware. If it's Classic HD then I don't know what could be causing it, sorry.

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>>389090571

>>389091016
What do you mean by "the stock of children"?

>>389091035
Classic HD. No problem.

>>389091181
Play the game.

>>389091181
not him but he means that the npc inventory changes every time you exit/enter a building

>>389091181
Chances to trade for powders.

>>389091739
>>389091563
You can trade with children you're stealing from?

>>389091016
>playing as a stately doctor
>stealing from starving people
Fuck off retard

So youll only be able to play as the bachelor in this remake?

>>389092104
All three characters are still in.

>>389091187
>>389090396
I noticed that but it went away after a day or two.

>>389091927
Not if you steal first, idiot.
Breaking in isn't a crime.

>>389092631
But dissection is.
O-kaaaay.

>>389062514
This "study" skips over the main reason.

>>389092967
Depends on if you have been taught the lines.

>>389093152
The Russian mafia? By the way does the Russian mob have a name? Mafia is an Italian thing right?

>>389093345
There are different groups that fit under the umbrella. The one you'll likely come across is: Vory v Zakone.

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>>389093345
Come, sit down with me, because it's gonna be a long one. An an angry one too.

The mob is a fucking joke, it's the same organized crime as anywhere else. The South American ones are far more expansive, influential and dangerous for example.

I don't particularly enjoy pointing fingers, but in my life, I have come to realize that one of the key underlying factors of "dying unneeded", which ironically, I was told the same thing by one of the Russians I knew a decade ago, is the attitude of the rest of the world towards them. That means, you, you and you and the rest of you. I loathe to generalize excessively, but let's look at the latest trends, shall we?

When a disaster happens somewhere in a first world country, what do we get? Good wishes, charity, condolences, twitter feelgoodery, avatar changing and all the other shit that makes no difference except for one. Making people feel good about themselves. Russians get no such thing. When something ill happens, they are ridiculed by the rest of the world, when they are down, they get kicked and screamed at, when they try to flee, if someone finds out you're a Russian, good luck getting rid of that accent by the way, you're treated as a curiosity, not a human being, defined by your love of CYKA BLYAT and alcohol consumption, even though there is a great number of countries that consume more alcohol and indulge other harmful vices at a far greater incidence. The article highlighted itself points that out, while missing the rest of course.

They were made into a running joke, a clown and words of their language became the killer. As a result you have a culture of people despised and ridiculed by the rest of the world and already born into a place where every other man around you despises and ridicules you, just because you are there and because they feel no better about it than anyone else does.

Okay you guys have my attention, I want to play the first Pathologic
My comp is a toaster from 2007, so I doubt I can play Pathologic 2, if it has even came out yet

I have read that Pathologic translation to english is poorly, and I have grow with low quality textures, I'd like to play something more aesthtic pleasing

I saw Pathologic Classic HD is basically a high definition version of the original, shall I play it? And by play it I mean pirate it

>>389095342
So what you're saying is, Russia is a blighted shithole that should be razed?

>>389095516
Yeah, Classic HD isn't poorly translated either.

I pirated it too, untill I loved the game so much I bought it just to support IPL. do it anon

>>389095516
Classic HD has a revamped translation that while not spotless is much, much better. Don't expect too much from the HD part though, the game's still going to be like an uglier Deus Ex.

>>389095516
You should! And the translation was fixed in Classic HD, so that shouldn't be a problem. The graphics are still not very good, but you get used to the characters' bizarre expressions after a little while

>>389095854
That's one way to solve the issue.

>>389096010
>>389096045
>>389096074
Alright, I'm the kind of guy that likes reading, so if the game is intresting enough, which I really expect to be, I can ignore the lower graphics.

Second question, is this game 'hard'?
More specifically, how 'hard'?

The type of 'hard' that you have to handle very thought enemies, or the kind of 'hard' that forces you to play smart and conserve the little you have to survive in that dire town?

>>389096876
Second kind. It's far more a resource management game than it is a fightan game.

>>389096937
Excellent! I dig that
Any recommended link before I dive into Piratebay/Kickass torrents?

>>389097027
>>389051835 maybe if you want a bit more direction. If you mean a dl link I can't help any better than you searching yourself, sorry. Throw the devs a couple bucks if you like it though, they're the starving artist types as opposed to greedy corporate overlords.

>>389095342
I get where you're coming from and agree that Russia got the short end of the PR stick but I don't see a concrete link between ridicule and disdain and unnecessary deaths on a macro level. Are you saying that Russians are so hated that they just stop caring about life on a subconscious level? Like the guy who hooks up a gas stove is so beaten down that he unknowingly does a bad job and ultimately causes a death?
No judgement from me, I'm just trying to understand, but that seems pretty far fetched. Japan hates themselves and while it's affected their birth and suicide rate, they aren't having helicopter accidents, etc. all the time.

>>389097281
Being a third worlder, and working 'In black' I dont know if you guys will understand that term I cant have a credit card, so there is no way I can pay the devs
I wish I had a better job to justify a real credit card

>>389097497
It's probably not the only cause but I'm sure it doesn't help much. One more thing on top of everything else that causes the average person more unhappiness. Which does actually lead to more deaths. It's not that unhappiness causes more accidents, it's that the body doesn't recover as well from things that might not normally kill it. Heart attacks and such that would normally be survivable suddenly aren't when the person has no real will to keep going.

>>389062514 explains the medical aspect better.

>>389097497
When you don't see a point to trying, you won't try. It's really simple. That's exactly what goes on there. To make it worse, the government is not exactly backing the people, with rampant corruption flourishing and any and all social issues remaining unresolved until they become so overwhelming that it is impossible to sweep them under the rug. Comparing Japan and Russia is inappropriate, given that the former never fell victim to communism, or reducing the scope of their issues to "they hate themselves", which they actually don't.

>>389097027
I can't think of much that hasn't already been said.
Hoard food on day one.
Prices won't continually increase. One day they'll be extremely high, the next day, buy so much.
The game may take a while to 'click' with you. I didn't get it until day 5.
Buy maps from young vlad every day (once there are infected areas).
If you're paying as Bachelor, press G to use your plague finder. It has sort of a stamina bar, so use it in short bursts. Lenses in your inventory will upgrade the plague finder, so don't sell or trade them until it's maxed out.

>>389097575
That's as good of a reason as any.

>>389098547
Please dont judge me