*breathes in* HAHAHAHA SEGA *breathes out*

>>389028942
so?

it's a terrible game
just like sonic mania

>>389028942
>no DRM
>30 day return guaranteed
are they just asking for people to play it for free? these idiots need to use denuvo

>>389028942
Do you not breathe out whilst speaking?

>>389028978
t.angry sonic team executive.

>>389029057
t.Todd Howard

>30 day return
>probably 6 hours of gameplay
wew laddy

Based GOG

>>389028942
>soundtrack is sold separately
does that make it illegal to only buy the game and then open the music files?

>>389029057
More people have been struck by space rocks than will ever refund a game they finished on GoG.

>please buy our game
No
Bye shill

Makes it easier to pirate. Thanks you retards x

Salty pirate thread

>>389029057
>>389029148
>there are people pathetic enough to do this
lol literally the cancer killing video games.

>>389029297
>i wanna pirate a hand drawn 2d game

dont be a bully dude.
Do you want all gaming future be like Secret of Mana Remake

>>389028942
Unfortunately, it seems to be a very style over substance kind of game, despite the incredible aesthetics that are clearly the labour of love.

I don't get it. Was this some kickstarter game or what?

>>389029376
You act like , you only buy 10/10 games at your life. Gee for once i will support style over substance its not 60$ ffs.

>>389029057
>are they just asking for people to play it for free?
Kidds won't even pirate something like Cuphead. Adults don't need to act like creepy imbeciles for a fucking twenty of all things.

>>389029417
Nah, its an indie game that revealed in Microsoft E3 years ago. It was bosh rush only game but fags complained they delayed game and mortaged their houses to add platformer levels.

There are more then 30 bosses i think and between bosses 2-3 platformer levels also has local coop

I love GOG because they make it easy to pirate everything. Thanks, slavbros.

>>389029427
I'm not speaking int eh abstract. We're comparing it to Mania, which is a very tightly designed GAME first and foremost.

I actually will buy Cuphead too though. Maybe it's not style over stubstance. Maybe it's an actually good game with good design and not something with level layout designed by an artist.

This game is so cringy. The whole style reminds me of something reddit would think is cool

>>389029516
>reddit
>approving artstyle of racist cartoons made in 1900's

nah son.

>>389029427
How do you even make that connection?
It's more that the game looks really barebores and the only reason why people care is because they spent too much on the art direction.

>>389029498
>mortaged their houses to add platformer levels.
So if this thing flops, the devs are fucked, right?

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Will you buy her game /anon/ and make her happy
<3

unlock her secret porn mission after completing hard mode ;')

>>389029057
if you're going to do that you may as well pirate it and not risk losing your $20 by forgetting.

People who buy games do so because they want to, not because they have to.
Multiplayer shit being one of the only exceptions.
And since Denuvo gets removed from most games, people have started to just wait for those titles to go on sale later anyway.

>>389029686
Yeah

http://www.shacknews.com/article/100480/cuphead-studio-co-founder-we-quit-our-jobs-mortgaged-our-houses-to-grow-team

“The reality is, Cuphead is closer now to the game we always wanted,” Chad told Games Radar. “We aren't throwing levels in to mollify people, we're putting them back in after originally cutting them from our ‘dream scope.’”

My brother and I quit our jobs, remortgaged our houses and began expanding the team,” Moldenhauer said. “This was our chance to actually deliver the game we wanted to make all along, rather than the cut-scope game we originally planned with a three-person team.”

>>389029516
Unsurprisingly, a lot of retards who liked Bendy are already jumping on the Cuphead bandwagon.

On the same token, Bendy was a piece of shit game.

>>389029057
those people just pirate games you fucking retard
only a retard like you would buy games just to refund them

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>>389029516
>cringy
this sounds like reddit speak.\
go watch your laugh you lose reaction videos, faggot.

>>389029057
People like you are reason why we can't have good things.

You abuse their system and they remove it and screw legit customers.

>>389029867
It's not abusing when they are the ones giving the refund :^)

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>19.99 USD
>19.99 AUD
based GOG

>>389029814
yea i don't get it. it's less hassle to just pirate a game than to buy it and then refund. i understand if there's legit reason to refund, but just to buy shit to refund makes very little sense.

>>389028942
This is what happens when Developers publish their own games.
Hope some greedy publisher doesn't buy the in the future.

>>389029057
Gog only allow refunds for games that are completely unplayable on your system in spite of attempts to fix it, its not like steam where under 2 hours you can refund it for almost any reason you want

>>389029376
Will you SHUT THE FUCK UP with this bullshit
The gameplay looks fine unoriginal parrot. Go back to play your shitty JRPG's or something you dumb millennial weeb.

>>389029057
>Implying GOG are that retarded

30 days limit only counts if you don't download it.
And if there is a problem with the game and you want a refund -> Have fun explaining what exactly is wrong because GOG are going to see what issue it is and if it can get fixed.

You might get away with it one time. Do it more often and people start notice your scam.

And why even go for that if you can just pirate?
You can pirate literally everything no matter if DRM-free or not. Sometimes not day 1 but still. 99% of all games are piratable.

>>389029515
>which is a very tightly designed GAME first and foremost.
Bullshit. The level design in that game is rom-hack tier at times compared to the classic games.

>>389030312
Calm the fuck down, dipshit. The game seems unimpressive. Have many people been sayingt he same? Makes sense. Style-over-substance design is a real problem in games like Cuphead.

>>389029093
Todd Howard actually doesn't put Denuvo on Fallout 4..........

>>389030382
Come on, it's better than the classic Sonic games in practically every possible way. The classic Sonic games were the ones with literally romhack-tier design. Sega never had the extremely tight level design of contemporary Nintendo.

Cuphead is LITERALLY Dark Souls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=848Y1Uu5Htk

contrarian fucks this game looks gorgeous
if you shit on things that are actually good and take time to make then you're just trying to fit in and actively becoming part of the cancer
CARE ABOUT VIDEO GAMES
>shill shill shill

>DRM-free
>cheaper than steam
thanks /v/, hope it's good

Why are there so many anti shills attacking a 20 dollar indie game that doesn't matter? Did the developers fuck someone's girlfriend around here?
>inb4 t. Shill

>>389028942
>no denuvo
Thanks for hearing my complains sega
now I can pirate it day one :^)

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>>389030493
forgot pic but I still want the (You)s

>>389030484
is this the dark souls of shovel knight?

>>389030493
It's $20 on Steam though?

>>389029686
No, they "re-mortgaged" their houses to add platforming levels(and make the game bigger overall)
They had original mortgaged their houses back when they started working on it

Don't think it'll fail though

>>389030484
jesus christ is this Polygon

>>389029185
Aren't game soundtracks usually in weird formats to combat this?

>>389029714
>those spandex jeans
unffffff

>>389028942
>*breathes in* HAHAHAHA SEGA *breathes out*
You would not have to breath out after the long laugh. The whole point of breathing in before laughing is because you breath out IN ORDER TO laugh.

Have you never laughed in your whole fucking life, you unfortunate fucker?

>>389029639
Right, style over substance.

>>389030495
soneghers

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>>389030551
Nice job anon

>>389030403
>The game seems unimpressive.
In what fucking universe? Are you fucking insane?
Only idiotic millennials like you have been saying this shit.

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>>389030569
depends on region.
I paid 15.79 USD which works out to 20 AUD.
It's 20 USD even on the Australian steam store, which works out to 25.09 AUD

Ausfags actually paying less for once, I don't know if this is GOG's doing or the dev but it feels amazing.

>>389030495
Find out which platforms it doesn't come out and do the math

>sonybros
>nintentoddlers

>>389030463
>it's better than the classic Sonic games in practically every possible way
No it is fucking not. It's lightyears away from 3K.
The levels are like Sonic 2 but bigger. They feel empty and not enough populated so there's empty space everywhere.

Thank you for showing your power level you goddamn pleb. Kill yourself and never pretend you know shit about level design again

>aims for a old timey cartoon aesthetic
>60fps
>now it looks like a shitty flash game

wew

>>389030683
>In what fucking universe? Are you fucking insane?
Gameplay, I mean. Gameplay. Read the fucking post before replying.
>Only idiotic millennials like you
I'm 32, which is exactly why I'm not as easily impressed by (admittedly) pretty graphics. Unlike you.

>>389030786
Welcome to the current year.

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>>389030551
I ordered from gayben store but how is it gog ? might change if its good

>>389028942
Good day one pirate then

I'm gonna pirate this game and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>389030858
good day to you too

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>>389030484
Jesus fucking Christ.

>>389030632
>style over substance.
You don't even know what this even means you faggot.

>>389030770
is this guy calling people pleb after deciding "the levels" are not populated enough as seen in the fucking tutorial sequence?
soneghers are the scum of this board, I'm so glad MSoft finally put you in your place

>>389030853
I like GOG, I have 300 steam games but I buy GOG when there's the option.
You can run it without any client and offline but there's an optional client too.
So you might get achievements and stuff but might not on GOG.

If you really like steam there's not a great reason to switch if it isn't cheaper for you, I just like GOG as an option and it was cheaper so I went for it.

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>>389030637
>>389030718
Of fucking course, seems so obvious now.

>>389030489
The only selling point of the game is the artstyle, the game itself is a shitty SHMUP where bullets feel they have no impact.
They should have made a cartoon at this point.

>>389030804
The gameplay looks fine you contrarian edgelord.
Have you never played a Run 'n Gun game like Gunstar Heroes in your life?
This looks like that.

>>389029057
If anyone wanted to get the game for free, they would pirate it instead. Why bother gambling a full price, when there's always a chance they might refuse a refund?

>>389031031
So it's just standard, nothing new, playing it safe gameplay? Wow so exciting.

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>>389030484
I am feeling disgust and contempt on a metaphysical level

>>389030096
This, thank god

>>389029057
That's pretty neat. I wasn't interested in Cuphead before but now, I think I'll check it out. Studios who make it a point not to make the experience intrusive for their paying customers are likely to have a lot of confidence and passion in their work.

>>389030916
Does it not mean style over substance?

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>GOG
>Being a pussy and not committing to your purchases by buying it on Steam.

Casuals

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>>389030484
delet this

>>389031031
Have YOU played Gunstar Heroes? Then you gotta see why, as a run'n'gun, Cuphead looks pretty forgettable. But it's just videos. It could play better than it looks, or they could be trying to not reveal all the interesting design elements in trailers so that we could discover them ourselves. We'll buy the game, play it and see. Deciding it's shit without playing would have been just as stupid for me as deciding it's amazing simply because the animations, like you're hopefully not doing now.

>>389031107
wow you sound like there are tons of games everyday releasing with unique and new gameplays unlike reality where everything is carbon copy of theirselves

>>389031107
Run n gun games that involve serious effort aren't exactly a dime a dozen these days, so it is kind of exciting. Of course the effort was all put into the animation instead of gameplay so I see where you're coming from.

>>389029639
That's exactly what we mean when we say "style over substance" about a game. Aesthetics over gameplay.

>>389031297
>committing to your purchases
Explain

>>389031297
they both offer refunds, steam gives you 2 hours and GOG gives you 30 days.
I wanted to give you the (You) because Hank's best boy.

>>389030096
Even if it wasn't you get credit to use on other games.

>>389031442
I'm assuming he means buying a Steam key from a CD key site since you can't refund them if bought from a third party. It's what I'm gonna be doing

>>389029427
Not 10/10 games, but I won't even try a game if it doesn't have at least a 90/100 score on metacritic.

Life is just too short for mediocrity.

>>389031492

Steam gives you 2 hours playtime, or 14 days, whichever comes first. Still shitty and anti consumer, especially in comparison to GOG though.

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oh cool, free game

>>389030718
>Find out which platforms it doesn't come out and do the math
>>sonybros
>>nintentoddlers

This runs on toasters, you fuck.

You trying to turn this into some system was shit marks you as a fucking child.

>>389031442
If you had confidence in the game being good you'd be buying it on Steam instead of playing it safe with GOG.

>>389031492
>steam gives you 2 hours and GOG gives you 30 days.
Yes and if you were confident in your belief that the game is good you wouldn't need 30 Days. You'd buy it on Steam.

>>389031538

>using third party sites

why put yourself through that?

How do I change my currency to Euro on GOG?
Neither the site nor GOG Galaxy(the client) is allowing me to change it from USD

>>389031571
God Hand has how much on Metacritic? And it's one of the best games of 6th gen.

>>389031579
Gog only gives you a refund if the game doesn't work on your computer.

>old style visuals
>no physical release
no buy

>>389031626
Because I get a full copy of the game on Steam and it's cheaper than buying directly from Steam. I got the XCOM 2 expansion from Kinguin for €25

>>389031607
>Yes and if you were confident in your belief that the game is good you wouldn't need 30 Days. You'd buy it on Steam.
This place is truly fascinating.

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>>389028942
Fuck off neoGAF, i'm not buying you a new forum account.

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>>389031571
>taking metacritic scores seriously

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>>389031628
?
Settings & Privacy, at the bottom.

>>389030484
It's always nice to see a child first pick up and begin learning to play video games for the first time.
This is a child playing, right?

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>>389030484

>>389030610
Unless they use their own format or their own engine(or if the engine has an obfuscation system and they used it) then no.

>>389030786
You're an idiot

>>389031653
>PC game
>physical release
>console game
>have to install to HDD anyway

>>389028942
I've never such a great looking game be sooooo boring gameplay-wise.

>>389030937
Fuck out of here retard

>>389031590
sonegars who roleplay as PC gamers by playing exactly the type of f2p and indieshit that can run on toasters are the worst

>>389031571
You are such a faggot it's unreal.

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>>389031737
>sonigerians BTFO

>>389031290
It doesn't mean Cuphead that's for sure you fucking retard

>>389031823
So you are underage?
Kids these days dont remember the good old times

>>389031770
Not giving me that arrow thingy son

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>>389031571
>I won't even try a game if it doesn't have at least a 90/100 score on metacritic.
>Life is just too short for mediocrity.
Game reviewers "play" games in a very weird marathoning manner that's akin to watching movies on fast-forward. Their opinions are completely off because of that and also ad revenues and editorial policies. Have you considered that?

Here's how they review games:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-07-28-how-i-programmed-final-fantasy-12-to-help-me-meet-an-impossible-deadline
Read it and fucking despair.

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>>389031903
I remember, but it's 2017.
Boxed PC games basically don't exist, the ones that do don't get stocked anyway so you have to buy them direct.

At least we don't have to deal with securom anymore.

>>389031737
Day 1 pirate then.

>wanted to play this game
>saw chromatic aberration added to game for some reason, effect makes me sick and hurts my eyes
>got too old to care about side scroller gameplay anymore before it came out

*sad slide whistle*

>>389030336
>99% of the games are piratable
Not Bloodborne ;)

>>389030998
Good job anon, I'm the same. I haven't bought games straight from steam in over two years and never will again. I just dislike it how even if I buy physical/online, it requires steam activation.

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>>389031770
>>389031965
Forgot pic

>>389032025
the concept of physical games hasnt existed in over 15 years since games started being online multiplayer and requiring patching to play.

>>389031590
>This runs on toasters, you fuck.
And that's exactly how I'll be playing my copy, on my toaster. I wasn't trying to start console wars, I just couldn't figure out why there would be so many anti shill threads and ass pain over an indie game, when anon pointed out that it wasn't coming out on the PS4, t all made sense. Only autistic S0nyggers would try to make an indie game fail. No toddlers might be behind it too but they aren't quite the shitposters that Sony fans are.

>>389031986
There is Denuvo now

is everybody in this board retarded

>>389032179
In order to decrease the number of retards on /v/ you'll have to leave.

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>>389030484
Absolutely retarded.

>>389032147
denuvo is nowhere near as bad as securom, which regularly prevented you from playing when you owned the fucking physical disk.

>>389032242
you first

>>389032338
Sure, I'll leave. There, I'm gone. Feel free to close the tab.

>>389031969
It's like you don't remember the auto-leveling possible back in Final Fantasy 6, from 1994.

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I fucking hate GOG won't let me change the currency
What a shitty service no wonder it's behind Steam REEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>389032459

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>>389032542
steam doesn't let you change the currency either

>>389032542
why do you need to change your currency?

>>389030484
I don't get how you can be bad at simple video games like this. How is this even possible is this guy 60?

>>389028942
Wait. I thought it was only on windows store

>>389029057
Most people have a conscience you know.

>>389032743
Yeah, that tryst with Microsoft cost them dearly. Everyone thoguht so, but apparently it's coming out on Steam and Gog and stuff and they're evne planning a Linux verison if it pushes any copies at all.

>>389032681
It doesn't need to because it detects it correctly
>>389032689
I'm a Eurofag
I need to change it from $$$ to Euro

>>389029057
its called basic consumer rights
america might get them eventually

>>389032854
Is it W10 only?

>>389032854
They've literally stated that it's coming to Steam, GOG, Humble Bundle, Linux(later) etc. since the beginning

>>389032858
>I need to change it from $$$ to Euro
What? Why? Euro is worth more. The same number but in Euro will mean a higher price. And you can pay in any currency, which your bank will automatically convert anyway (on the scale of a 20 bux your convertation losses will be in single pennies).

>>389032930
>>389032920
>389032920

I thought it was xbox and W10 store exclusive

>>389032920
Nigger can you even read? It will be coming out in fucking Linux and you expect this to be W10-only?

The official Steam/GOG page and the official Dev page says it supports 7/8/8.1/10
The game is being published by StudioMDHR not Microsoft

>>389032920
>Is it W10 only?
I was under the impression too, but turns out it isn't.

>>389032930
They were getting cross-promoted as a Microsoft "exclusive", so everyone just assumed it was yet another Win10/WinStore exclusive.

>LOL JUST PLAY IT AND RETURN IT

how stupid can people be?
just pirate it, its drm free.

>>389032858
Check the bottom of the gog homepage.

>>389032858
are you using a VPN or something? because it should default to Euro

>>389028942
>*breathes in* HAHAHAHA
learn to use memes correctly you newfag retard

>>389032953
As far as I recall, GOG doesn't do that, it uses USD as a base and then converts from there charging you the equivalent in your currency.

For games like the witcher series where they're obligated by distributors to sell at RRP they give in-store credit back.

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>Sonic has DRM
>Cuphead doesn't

I'm getting cuphead, they deserve it. As for sonic? I'm pirating that anti consumer piece of shit

>>389033232
for this game they're not.
$20 AUD is way less than $20 USD (about 15.79 USD).
They didn't even charge me in AUD, my paypal receipt shows $15.79 USD.

>>389033393
they are doing that for me though? Is it something to do with crazy Aussie laws I don't know about?

>>389032953
>And you can pay in any currency, which your bank will automatically convert anyway (on the scale of a 20 bux your convertation losses will be in single pennies).
Are you sure? I'm scared it might reject my order

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>>389033041
Doesn't work
pic related

>>389033090
Nope, no VPN here

>>389028942
Nice. I'll be downloading this as soon as someone uploads it and will maybe buy it if it's good enough(but probably not).

So /v/ only hates Denuvo because it makes it hard for them to pirate games right?
I'm not an ethicsfag i'm just genuinely curious

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>>389034084
>Every other board doesn't care about piracy because it's basically free marketing via word of mouth, and some pirates will buy it if they really like it just to support the creator

>/v/ is the only board that is defending DRM and anti-piracy measures because they think one pirated copy= one lost sale

I don't care if you are shitposting defending denuvo for (you)s. Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>>389034084
Reported
Sick of you paid denuvo shils
Go die

>>389030632
>>389031407
I'm talking about the
>you only buy 10/10 games at your life

>>389029057
I pirated Stardew Valley then bought on steam

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Just bought it
Hope there's no complications with me buying it in USD since I couldn't switch the setting to Euro no matter how hard I tried. Oh well.

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>>389030484
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>389028942
wasnt this game going to be ps4 exclusive? wow sure sucks to be a console faggot, AGAIN

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>>389035084

Oh fuck.

>>389035128
Where do your kind even get these fake bits of information? From the beginning it was announced to be xbox and windows exclusive. Later it was announced it would be on steam and gog.

>>389035128
>wasnt this game going to be ps4 exclusive?
Nope.
It's Xbone "Console Exclusive"
From the beginning it's been PC and Xbone but Microsoft being the bastards they are always say "Exclusively on Xbox" in their conferences.

>>389035084
>he thinks the game is actually impossible

>breathing out after laughing.

>>389035084
>"I played the game for the first time so of course I would suck at it"
>when Cuphead is the most derivative thing ever aside of graphics

it's literally just Contra, fuck

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>mania on PC has Denuvo, forcing you to play online
>mania on literally every other console can be played offline.

Pirate-fags ruin everything. Pirate fags are the ones complaining the most.

>>389035306
>From the beginning it was announced to be xbox and windows exclusive. Later it was announced it would be on steam and gog.
Wrong
From the beginning it's been Steam and UWP/Xbone and from the beginning they've said that they had plans to release it on GOG and Humble Bundle too as well as release versions for Linux and MAC later.

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>>389030484

>>389035460
No, YOU ruin everything by sucking the dick of these fucking greedy kikes you piece of shit.

>>389035484
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do your damn research.

>>389035460
The only people I see bitching are the customers who bought the game.

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>>389030484
>VentureBeat 1 day ago
Dean: I've watched the comments on this thread just to see how mean they would be. I think it's useful to show my gameplay experience. I did not intentionally play poorly to "troll" anyone. But it serves as an interesting social experiment. I walk into a game cold, and this is the play that results. The video shows it's a notch more difficult than your typical Mario game. In fact, if you are expecting Mario, as the story says, then you are thrown off. And it shows that the developers are going to leave a lot of people who are worse than me behind. Maybe they're fine with that. Maybe they want to target gamers with a love for difficult games. That's fine. But I think they should signal that. How many games actually come with a tutorial these days? They're not popular. But if it's necessary, that is a signal this is going to require some skill. As for other comments on this thread, I wonder why they are hostile to someone who is viewing the game as a beginner? Are we that intolerant of people who are not "gamers"? Should I have played the scene over and over again until I was good at it, and then turned the recording on, like so many of those perfect video walkthroughs you see? I believe that games can be made accessible and inviting to people who are not hardcore fans, and these people can be accommodated inside the same game that is appealing to hardcore fans, through difficulty levels. So when people tell me that I shouldn't be playing this game because, on my first play, I was pretty lousy -- that's an attitude that argues that games should be shut off in their own little corner, only played publicly by the masters and the experts. I disagree with that view entirely, and I believe it leads to elitist attitudes that allow gamers to look down on other people, and that only leads to a more fragmented world of haters.

>>389030096
>19.99 USD
>19.99 AUD
>25 CAD
I guess I'll pirate.

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>%100

>>389030484
Not even a minute in and I've already lost.

>>389035565
i bought the game on switch :^) and im having no problems at all.

>>389035554
I did. That's what the developers were saying from the goddamn beginning.

>>389029329
Yes.

>>389035578
you gotta pay the troll toll faggot mr free health care and asians

>>389035578
Just order it on USD it'll probably convert the money properly

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>>389028942
OMG! NO DRM? ARE YOU FOR FUCKING REAL???

>>389035578
>pirating a game by Canadian indie dev

>>389029057
You're the first person I have legitimately believed to be a shill

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>>389036719
>buying leafshit
YOU'VE GOT TO BE F**KING KIDDING ME AHAHAHAHA

What's so good about it?

First of all the game looks mediocre at best so let's move on from ths.

Secondly the animation isn't anything special. Right now you have thousands of japanese in-betweeners working in sweat-shop studios making drawings that are much more complex than those, and at a quicker pace since they get paid by page.
Not to mention the Storyboard artist and Key Animators who have to think of composition and weird perspectives and angles, not just a bland asset always pointing to a side that they put on top of a 2D background like Cuphead.

Of course I could've mentioned the greats that worked in cell-era Disney, but my point is that even below minimum wage workin' korean/japanese young college dropouts put more effort than this shitty indie game's dev. Neither one of them should be glorified, they are just doing their job. I don't see your dicks getting hard for middle-of-the-road programmers or background artists, so why would a key animator be any more interesting?

Clearly as developers they are a mess and don't deserve your money. Their workflow is absolute shit, they took ages to get anywhere probably because they don't have enough animators, so their style of animation is ill-suited for their ambition, funds and team size. Then they buckled under pressure and made levels instead of a pure boss-rush game like they wanted to originally, just goes to show their vision is weak.
Now it's pretty clear the game will suffer for it, not that the boss battles were any better than fucking CastleCrashers (a literal flash Newgrounds game) in the first place, but with the boring levels they forcibly added on top further decrease the overall quality.

How much does this piece of shit cost again?

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>>389037167
>What's so good about [game]?
>First of all the game looks mediocre at best so let's move on from ths.
here we go

>>389034150
/thread

>>389037167
>Right now you have thousands of japanese in-betweeners working in sweat-shop studios making drawings that are much more complex than those
LOL MOUTH FLAPS CONSISTING OF 2 FRAMES ARE TOTALLY BETTER LOOKING THAN GOD-TIER 1930S FULL ANIMATION

Kill yourself you fucking nigger