*slashes your teammate* *cloaks* *hides behind top of the building*

>>389020085
I hate that you are basically guaranteed to get hit by her at least once. I was lucky though and she was weak to melee on my first playthrough. Meant I could just dash and grapple after her and kill her quickly.

Is it good? I played and beat XCOM 2 on release and I loved it

only reason I haven't bought it yet is because it's pretty expensive for an expansion and I'm a broke boi

>>389021962
>Is it good?
Yeah. But 40 dollars is still a lot to ask for it.

>>389021962

YOu can get it on GMG for like 30 bux. Even less if you were lucky enough to use that voucher they sent out.

If its anything like the shitty DLC overlords or whatever those fucks were, i want no part of this expansion. That was miserable.

>>389021308
ACtually not 100% true.
If you see where she spawned then make a rough estimate on how many turns it would take dashing to reach your dudes. Right before that happens activate your scanner. Catches her with her pants down for the gunner/ranger bukkake gangbang

>>389021962
>Is it good?

No they still did not fix the *only 40% to hit despite being 1inch away from the target*

Reapers counter them really well. When they get close enough to your squad members they reveal themselves, so putting a Reaper between wherever they spawned and the rest of your squad lets you uncloak them before they can bumrush you

The chosen are the worst enemies ever. Sometimes they just sit there and let you kill them but most of the time you have to play a shitty game of tag until you have them cornered at the edge of the map. That's even before their shadows of mordor traits get stupid like getting increased defense for each person who takes a shot at them and stacking shields/reaction fire for each missed shot.

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>>389020085
>people bought this ripoff expansion

>>389021962
No it's not worth it unless you are happy to play the same campaign again with what amounts to mods.

>>389022659
*disables DLC*
*alien overlords still show up*

Jake is one hell of a troll

>>389023239
they really need to drop this hero bullshit if they're gonna make eggscum 3

>>389022837
kill yourself, dont talk about "fixes" if you haven't played more than 2 hours of the game

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>>389023735
>has no idea what he's talking about
>3DPD thumbnail image macro
go back to Facebook, Lucresha

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Strengths:
>Can't trigger Overwatch
>Missed shots give shields
>Explosive damage doesn't hurt

Weakness:
>Weak to Reapers
>Weak to close range attacks

>>389022659
it's arguably worse, the Chosen that is. They're like Rulers except they dont actually die, and instead of reacting to your actions they just have generally absurd abilities (except for the sniper, he's fucking easy as shit)

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>>389024856
>runs up to it with Templar that has bladestorm
>literally dies in 3 turns

>>389024856
I had one that has instant overwatch AND immunity to overwatch.

So it can literally run in to fuck with me and I cant easily approach without a unit that has lightning reflexes.

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>>389020085

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Are the Chosen the best villians in terms of design? I like how unique and threatening they look. Really got me sweaty the first time the assassin spawned.

>>389025002
Can't you break overwatch with grenades and flash bangs and probably some other later stuff that I haven't got to yet?

>>389025084
I don't know most of /v/ don't like their designs

>>389025084
I love that distinct alienish look to them, but also they got a sort of Orc vibe to them too.
Human-like but grotesque and sinister looking. The worst physical traits of humans we see exaggerated.

>>389025119
as long as you HIT them with anything it will cancel overwatch
flashbangs are the safest way to cancel overwatch and ensure they will miss in the next few turns
or you can get a grenadier to use Hail of Bullets to guarantee the hit.

>Xcom 2 is criticised for by lots of players for being really hard even at the easiest difficulty
>So let's make it even harder and alienate casuals even more

I don't even know what to think

>>389025119
Heres the trouble.
1. Its the Assassin so it moves in and out quickly whenever it feels like. So I cant even kill it, it just runs in grabs what it wants and buggers off.
2. If I dont have my Reaper with her ability to detect I cant see that bitch coming at all.

does war of the chosen make the game harder? i already suck enough just playing on normal without any DLC

>>389025084
Can I breed them ?

>>389025304
Shes gathering intel like crazy too.
She wants to invade my base early man.

>>389025304
assassin gets one move after attacking, all you have to do is make sure your guys don't stand a mile apart, it's really easy

>>389021308
Anon, try to gauge where she is.

Alternatively, Reapers or Battle Scanners.

>>389025324
Individual missions can be way harder because the chosen show up all the time and will just instantly wipe out low level dudes. If it isn't the chosen it's fighting the usual advent alongside hundreds of constantly spawning zombies.
Overall the game is a hundred times easier because your dudes are so crazy overpowered and the faction bonuses are just plain gamebreaking.

>>389025434
for me too, but I still didn't free the skirmisher, so maybe that's where she gets the intel

>>389025324
>does war of the chosen make the game harder?
Yes. Prepare to shit your pants every time Assasin drops.
>>389024879
Warlock is also easy as shit.
Only Assasin is truly dangerous and that's only due to absolutely absurd mobility.

I love this game now. I tried playing the original XCOM2 at launch and a few months ago, but both times I got bored.
But now there's just so much shit added. Maybe a bit too much is delighted to menus, but at least the strategic layer is interesting now.
Also the Horde are surprisingly fun, especially when they rock up as part of a normal mission and act as a threat to both sides.

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>>389025165
Is it because they aren't cute anime girls?

>>389025084
the fact that assassin is twice as big as a full grown man is what sells it for me

>>389025292
good, I prefer it to alienate casuals
more companies should do that, fuck appealing to retards

>>389025559
*delegated

>>389025292
XCOM 2 is piss in comparison to the shit before hand.
Gaming journalism is just fucked.

>>389024879
>mfw the alien's Teleporting Grappling-Hook-using Squadsight Sniper is somehow the LEAST THREATENING of the three

I'm impressed, desu. I find them fun as fuck to fight. Rulers are irritating with their reaction shit, Chosen feel like you are fighting an alien version of X-Com.

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*Does nothing*

>>389025561
They just really remind me of the Butt Ugly Martians.

>>389025324
Chosen Assassin can fuck your shit up. Warlock can fuck your shit up if you are in a bad situation such as fighting other enemies.

But the new features make the game a lot easier overall.

>>389025619
Adding in more bullshit doesn't make it more hardcore, it just makes it more bullshit.

Shock lancers or whatever they were called are the reason I don't reinstall.

>>389026065
scrub

>>389026065
Just kill them first with a SS? Wow, problem solved.

>>389021962
It's good but pricey for what it is.
They've altered a lot of the base game, plenty of mission variety and slight touches here and there in the Avenger management.

The game is now filled with content and rarely feels like a hassle to go through with the variety of shit it throws at you now.
It's more XCOM 2 though they've added more stealth, more timers, more bosses, more cringey generic action tropes.
I can't imagine it persuading someone who hated XCOM2 originally to change their minds on it.

I think it's great and when modders get a hold of all the new stuff it's going to be worth another playthrough.

I really all the new changes that make all campaigns a little more different. More continent bonuses, more variation in what resistance orders you get early on, which covert ops you get, if you have lost and chosen intro off also changes which hero class you get first and which chosen etc.

Currently about to finish my run on Commander Ironman and only really struggled early with Assassin until I killed her as soon as I had mag weps and predator armor, Warlock and Assassin have been both pushovers (especially with melee and grenade weakness respectively)

Also having one continent bonus with the Advent Turncoat and one with Volunteer Army is sweet, starting missions lately with Elite Stunlancer and Resistance Fighter is fun.

>>389026065
>Shock lancers or whatever they were called are the reason I don't reinstall

Awww, did baby never try putting his Shotgun users on Overwatch?

>>389026408
Doesn't do shit when they miss

>>389026408
To do what, watch them shoot at target on the edge of their range just to miss?

>>389026408
so cute when rookie players try to educate someone on tactics

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I posted this pic in an earlier thread and yes I eventually changed the nickname to Lemon, but this fucker made it captain with OVER 30 kills under his belt before finally dying to the fucking Viper King.
Fuck Boss enemies.

>>389026065
Buy a flashbang

>>389026553
Helmet mod name and possibly arm mod?

>>389026553

>80 will at SGT.

He was too pure for this world anon.
;__;7

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>>389026408
>>389026065
>>389026508
Jesus Christ you people are fucking retarded, stun lancers are chump change

>>389026508
how do you deal with lancers then
And of course you dont get to bring colonels

>>389026065
flash
bang

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>DUDE ZOMBIES LOL

>>389026786
Freezenate is better. They can still have a chance to mess you up when disorientated.

>>389026786
this
most problems can be solved with flashbangs
>priest/sectoid SITREPs
>terror missions in general

>>389026832
but they're cool, well animated zombies

>>389026763
I never got this order through my whole campaign.
Just useful "Recruits cost 15 supplies" and "50% excavation speed" (after I already had everything excavated. Fucking Reapers reeeee

This franchise is being ruined by the disgusting fanboys it has, they will say the most shitty expansions are good. $40 for this crap.

They are worse than blizzdrones.

>>389026854
Never had those, they were DLC nades yeah? Flashes have an xboxhueg radius and affect through cover and walls. EZ modo

>>389026854
Yeah but you can build flashbangs on day 1 so you have no excuses.

I miss mecs

>>389027027
No-one said any of the previous dlc was good though.

>>389027079
I wish they had a heavier version of the EXO, that'd be cool

>>389027027
only good DLC before WoTC is arguably rulers

>>389027079
Yeah I would love to have MECs back. Even if they just added like a junker faction with ghetto mec dudes.

>>389022837
You dont seem to understand the concept here. what you see on screen is only a rough representation of whats happening. Battles irl are not turn based. You have to imagine that when your an inch away from someone, your only an inch away from them for a moment as you are aiming, they are moving and trying to avoid being hit. Xcom is just an apporxximation of whats going on, you have to use your imagination a bit.

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>>389026628
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/id=626608247&searchtext=MGSV+GZ+MSF+Headgear
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=626636844

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>>389025080
amazinga .

I'm not a robot

>Shitters have been being triggered by XCOM raping them for over 20 years

what makes it even funnier is that they usually give away they don't even understand the fundamentals in one or two posts

>>389027964
>thinks he's so smart
>is still on neetbux
lmao

>>389020085
Man, firaxis went so fucking far off the deep end with xcom 2 it's unreal
This game barely even fucking resembles xcom anymore.

I guarantee if the game had launched with all the DLC/expansions it has right now there would've been a huge backlash. This shit is completely uncharacteristic of the original games, let alone the first nu-com game, and worse - they never improved the fucking awful turn system or general gameplay.

When I see xcom 2 I see squandered potential; what a waste.

>>389028627
It's ok, Xenonauts 2 will most likely be released in the next 10 years :*

>>389024856
Icarus armor into point blank range.
Lightning hands - pistol shot - fanfire
Bring in the run and gun ranger for the finish
RIP.

>>389028682
xenonauts is a game that genuinely put the gameplay ahead of dumb crap like player dressup, hollywood quality plots, and moustache twirling cartoon villain aliens

What a fucking trainwreck this series turned into

>>389026832
>mfw thought the same
>now I miss Lost missions when missions don't have them because they are fun as fuck
>great for levelling units
>you can use them to your advantage and have them swarm the enemy
>a fight between X-Com and Advent causing tons of explosions and having them swarm both sides is incredibly entertaining to deal with

>>389020085
>buying 60 dollar dlc
How about no, shill.

>>389028796
Losts aren't fun because they always target my operators instead of ner Advent. feels like bullshit.

>>389027004
>mfw Reapers gave me Construction Time -50% early in the game
>built up the Avenger's rooms at blazing speeds

>>389027027
>it's shitty because it's$40

Did you miss how people flamed Alien Rulers and Anarchy Children and outright disabled and uninstalled the mods?

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>>389028627
>>389028682
Why Xenonauts when you can get Phoenix point straight from the creator himself?
https://phoenixpoint.info/blog/2017/8/29/geoscape-ballistics-and-more

Anyway, it's not that firaxis didn't want to make XCOM like X-com, it's something they tried in their vertical slices and at that time, nobody found the old ways fun. So they tried their own thing, found that it worked and decided to take it further while Julian and other imitators of old X-com take advantage of the revitalized interest.

>>389028870
>cucknadians

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>>389028749
Is War of The Chosen even canonical to the games? Or is this like EU where only vanilla is canon?
I'm glad Valen's alive. Missed you BB<3

>>389028258
>work a shitty deadend job for 30 years just so your wife can fuck Jamal and take your money and kids
lmao

>>389028627
Yet it'll still sell, I don't get why people are so pissy with 2 even though Enemy Within was objectively better 2 wasn't even close to shit. Gamplay wise it was more aggressive since timers help stop Overwatch camps which make missions more tense, or just get the reaper Mod that stops the timer until seen. Art wise it's understandable that they had to change the look because it was 20 years after the first game so it's to be expected. Plus 2 had objectively better weapon variety even in vanilla 2 then EW.

>>389028895
You need those special grenades, I forget what they are called.

I don't like the fact that you just have to take damage sometimes now
seems like bad design imo

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>>389020085
The chosen weapons make whoever has them broken as fuck.

The sniper allows you to fire with 1 action...combined with getting most of the gunslinger tree and sniper tree (based as fuck training center) you can lightning hands -> standard pistol shot - > fanfire big target if needed -> teamwork -> serial and kill everyone else on screen with the rifle

My sharpshooter with the hunters rifle and pistol with Icarus armor killed 14 enemies in 1 round.

nothing like baiting the entire maps forces into that setup.
On legend none the less

>>389029005
>I don't like the fact that you just have to take damage sometimes now

But X-Com 2 is all about the opposite, wounds take forever to heal until you have a staffed infirmary.

>>389028749
>xenonauts is a game that genuinely put the gameplay ahead
Meh, Xenonauts have zero replay value. OpenXCom exists, though, so who cares.

>>389029053
and you don't get hit for free without any way to stop it in 2 either
what are you saying ?

>>389029164
I don't think I know what you are talking about. What is damaging your soldiers that you cannot avoid?

who /savescum/ here?

>>389028870
But it's only 40 Burgerbucks.

>>389022837
The only way how that could happen is if the enemy is behind a thick wall, or you are disoreintated, suppressed or suffering from heavy poison. All of which are pretty reasonable excuses as to why your soldier cant aim well right at that second.

>>389028870
It's a pretty big expansion to be fair

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>>389026065
>Being this bad.

FLASHBANGS

>>389028918
The new xcom games, and especially xcom 2, are like getting a bland imitation of a once-loved dessert.

Yeah it's okay, but it doesn't have anything that made the original taste so good. It's just a poor off-brand imitation.

>>389028918
Phoenix point uses the shitty two-actions-per-turn mechanic and small squad sizes, which are the two main reasons I hate nu-XCom. I would rather not play it.

>>389029325
You're lucky that Firaxis are so bad at guns, they don't realise why giving someone a minigun without much ammunition is a bad idea.

Rifles. especially those Xbox-Heug Xcom uses are terrible in CQC. Their barrels are too long and difficult to readjust quickly if your target is actively avoiding the shot. That's why Pistols and SMGs are invented.

>>389028964
The artwork isn't an issue. The issue is how they try to hollywood-ize everything; No, we don't actually need moustache twirling villain aliens with punchable faces and awful voice acting. In fact, it ruins the alien-ness of them. Just completely defeats the whole point of it. Christ if they wanted to make a game like this why couldn't they do that and not call it x-com? Could've done some not-advance-wars bullshit. Advance Wars quality of writing is more up their alley, that's for sure.

Also, overwatch crap is a symptom of a poorly designed turn system. Simultaneous shooting phases, or an actual initiative system, both would've prevented overwatch spam from being a thing, and timers are just a band-aid solution for poor design stemming from the awful turn system they use.

They could've fixed the turn system - would've automatically fixed the overwatch problem AND made the general gameplay more varied and interesting instead of an alpha-strike fest.

But they didn't, and won't. X-com 3 will be greenlit, and they'll keep doing the exact same fuckups, I just know it.

Am I a scrub for sitting in concealment, watching zombies and advent fight it out, then mopping up whatever survives?

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>>389026065
What is bladestorm?

>>389030302
Shit.

>>389030461
Apparently you didn't use it correctly or at all, since lancers gave you hard time. Git gud.

>>389030296
No shame in getting everyone back in one piece.

>>389028895
There's a mod that makes lost target xcom and advent equally

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>Mission: Steal the supplies
>SITREP: The Lost
>Chosen has appeared: Hunter
>Advent lifts two crates per turn
>Crawling up fighting snakes, advent and losts
>More losts appear
>Dancing around the Hunter's bullets each turn
>Only get four crates by the end
>Stick around to finish off the hunter
>More losts appear
>Beat everything anyway

>Tyrone has developed a fear of Chosen

So apparently you can add other people's propaganda and it'll show up on maps and around the Avenger.

Post lewd propaganda, I need it.

>>389030621
Oh I used it alright, to watch them slap on of my own when they panicked and actually hitting for once.

>cinematic mission introducing the first two factions
>cinematic to introduce the assassin
>cinematic to introduce the three chosen
>cinematic after killing the first chosen
>...
>...
>that's it
I expected an actual mission to get the templars.
I also expected another cutscene of the last guy being really fucking smug because there was no one left but him. I also expected a cutscene of the elders going like "Well, fuck they're all dead, now what do we do?"
Also the three assassin hideout missions were basically copy pasted and not very interesting overall.
I feel a bit let down by the story they added. They basically made this stuff for the trailers and the early mission playthroughs on youtube and then just didn't bother anymore. Although I will say the game is much improved in a lot of areas.

>>389025802
Actually he once managed to distract me long enough to make me lose a retaliation mission by one. That was about it, though.

>>389027004
>"50% excavation speed"
That saved my playthrough when an officer called in a pod of 2 stun lancers and a priest on my first fucking mission and I had no engineer for over two months.
My current playthrough is just riddled with weird bullshit like this. I also lost a mission because a MEC grenaded the objective.

>>389027004
PCS effects increased with weapon modifications increase card.

Superior scope plus superior perception

Fuck man nothing like +35% aim
>Can't get dicked by RNG if you can't miss

>>389021308
She didn't have shadowstep in my second go so she runs in and disables one and dies to overwatch

>tfw you fight from the high ground constantly and the game decides to punish you by introducing mechs only a few missions in.

did they fix the shit things about the previous game

>>389024856
>Missed shots give shields
anon btfo
RIP

>>389025084
Jake wasn't kidding when he said they made a reverse-Nemesis system from Shadow of Mordor. Really nice.
Too bad you can't recruit the least brainwashed one.

>retaliation mission w/ resistance members
>everything going swell, will easily save enough
>last site to protect is on the other side of the map, have to dash to get there
>resistance members doing a good job holding their own
>suddenly, purifier moves up next to a large group of civs
>resistance member kills him, causing him to explode
>takes 10 resistance members with him, fail the mission

I'm not sure if I should find this hilarious or annoying

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>>389020085

Is this bitch always immune to overwatch or did I get really fucking unlucky?

>>389035673
she can spawn with overwatch immunity as a perk

>Lazy to do main missions, hunted the Chosen instead
>Get around to doing Blacksite mission with the Vial
>Muton Elites, Heavy MECs, Archons
>The MECs are stalking my invisible reaper, they can follow her no matter where she hides

HELP

WHAT DO

>>389035895
don't delay the blacksite that much doofus, by the time i did it it was filled with MECs and spectres, still breezed through it.

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>>389020085

>Immune to melee
>Doesn't trigger overwatch

Kill me

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*blocks your path*

>>389036116
What's that expression trying to convey?

>>389030981

>Advent can mark crates without being anywhere near them
>Xcom needs to move up beside the crate AND have a free action left to mark it

That mission was such bullshit, I think I got like 2 crates

>>389036203
smug

>>389036057
Yeah, I managed to do it in the end with some ingenious use of explosives, rockets and a claymore.

Fug, should I rush the rest of the story missions before they become the same?

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>tfw I forgot mutons can counter melee attacks
>tfw I watch my favorite ranger get oneshot by a 7 damage muton cross counter

>>389036116
dammit, she is kind of hot

fucking firaxis and their evil sexy aliens

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>>389036116

>>389023735
You should reword that a little.
>people bought shit that is inferior to it's ancient counterpart multiple times
The sad part is that there is only one (1) reason that this is so.

>>389036670
kek

How long until LW2 is updated?

>>389037951
Possibly never.

>>389027410
What the fuck

>>389037951
It's dead, John.

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got so lucky in the first encounter
grenade knocked her down to the ground and started the swarm on third turn
i had no idea how i was gona cover enough ground since she just runs away constantly or line up a shot

>>389032627
>She didn't have shadowstep in my second go
Oh wow, that's hilarious.

>>389036571
>tfw I forgot mutons can counter melee attacks
I forget that basically every mission.
That ability is bullshit.

>>389039172
>>389038817

Oh? What happened?

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>>389034813
>doing a retaliation mission with resistance members
>Warlock shows up to play
>Mind controls my best ranger
>Resistance turn...they all fire on my ranger and kill him
>The only time the warlock has killed someone

>>389021308
damn their skills are randomized? my bitch had shadowstep and immunity to melee. and at the start of the game when you have only 4 member squads she was a massive pain, spammed nades everywhere on the second encounter trying to declock the bitch

>>389026276
having the resistance actually fight in the retaliation missions is a nice touch too, likeing this dlc just for all the little extras they have been adding, is resistance radio new as well in the bar? never really checked it out before, and people using the shooting range, the avenger feels more alive, more mission types more maps priests annoying same with the specters clone ability

>>389029046
sounds like the volunteer for the final mission vs the 3 avatars room, would be glorious, like reaper.