ITT: things you hate about modern games

>>389012113
>everybody realized after the PS3 that Blu-ray read speeds are pathetic so now console games have to completely install to the hard drive
What's even the point anymore

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>never fucking works on release
>DLC
>DRM
>early access
>boring and tired ideas
>paid online on consoles
>community so cancerous it's deadly
I could easily go on

>>389012405
To sell more hard drives.
>2008
>could get by with a 4gb hard drive on my 360
>2017
>need at least a 500gb for the console to function

PC games are getting so bad lately. I spent almost an entire day downloading nu-doom.

>>389012724
>early access
>boring ideas
Will the early access zombie survival pvp multiplayer open world sandbox crafting meme ever die?

>>389012113
>Nintendo

>>389012950
the worst part is that most of them aren't even good, and they get a fuckton of negative reviews by the people who realize that they've made a horrible mistake but have played more than 2 hours and so cannot refund the game, and the other half are the whiteknights who defend it because it's "early access" and therefore immune to criticism

When was the last time an early access game on steam actually got out of early access?

>>389012950
>>389013167
Golden age of gaming lads

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>Need a gorillion gigs of memory on my PS4 drive for all my games even though I have physical discs

what the fuck was even the point

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>>389013434
>what the fuck was even the point

>>389012113
what's the problem? I download 4k movies that size all the time in just a few hours

>>389013167
killing floor 2 and ark got out of early access
i refunded them both instantly because steam lets you do that once they get released

>>389013690
You don't see the problem with one game being 68GBs?

>>389012405
What's the big deal? Your Blu-ray drive lasts longer this way.

>>389013740
Ark isn't out of early access. They just jumped the price tag up while leaving their game unfinished.

>>389013434
Delete them then.

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>>389012113
>uncompressed textures, audio and video
>that somehow still end up worse, because made by talentless hacks
>looks like a UE3 game from around 2008
>requires top of the line GPU to run at above 60 fps
Nuke this fucking planet already.

>>389013929
this

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>games are usually around 3-20 GBs
Thanks Nintendo

>>389013891
I bounce back and forth between games I own since they tend to be long RPGs or stuff you can get heavily invested in, so it's nice to be able to drift from one to the other when I feel like playing something else.
It's bullshit that I need to dedicate 90% of the drive space to them when I have the damn discs, though.

>62 GBs
Damn, dude, a whole 90 minute download.

>>389015171
It's not about the download time it's about the fact that one game now takes up almost 1/10th of one of my hard drives.

>>389015171
>I have a good Internet connection, so everybody should have one

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>>389015657
heres' another one

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>Antialiasing: On/Off

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>almost no more unlockable characters in fighters

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>no cheat codes

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>>389012113
>graphics options
>resolution
>fullscreen

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>>389016000
But that's just not true, Anon. For the small price of € 29,99, you can unlock 5 brand new characters, and for € 29,99 more, you can have their alternate costumes as well! I think that's pretty good considering most games don't allow unlockables anymore.

>>389016000
This disappoints me. I get that a lot of developers want people to just be able to jump in and play any character right away, but unlocking characters is fun.

Mario Golf 64 handled this in a good way. In Single player you only started with 4 characters and had to unlock most of them, but if you went to one of the multiplayer modes, almost all of the characters were available.

>>389015171
Try being so glib after waiting a whole two days for that shit to download my dude.

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>>389016079
>tfw ywn r1 r2 l1 l2 left right left right up down square in a gta game again

Why even live

I don't even know what that cheat is, I just remember I used it a lot when I was playing gta San Andreas

>>389016079
GTA V still has them which is nice.

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>subtitles are in video options

>>389016413
Pretty sure its the jetpack.

>>389012113
>Feel like reinstalling DOOM on my PS4
>Game has like 60gigs+ worth of update data
>Most is multiplayer maps I can't use because I don't have PS+

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>>389012113
>buying AAA games

>>389012405
>What's even the point anymore
So you don't have to download 62GB?
Also PS4 bluray read speed is somewhere around 25MB/s so unless you have 200Mbit it's going to be installed faster (assuming day one patches won't exceed few gigs)

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>>389016560
>Gears 4 is over 100GB

>Day 1 4 GB update
>Servers are shit
>Day 1 DLC
>Locked ingame DLC
>Preorder bonuses
>Microtransactions
>Early Access
>Unity
>Game is terribly downgraded
>Cheat codes and info packets are no longer a thing
>Closest thing to cheats is DLC
>tons and tons of cosmetic color swap DLC
>Real ending to the game dlc
>Split Screen Co-op is fucking dead

>>389016691
That's why I don't think digital only will be a thing in gaming for a VERY long time. I have 2 terabytes of internet at a reasonable speed and I don't like this shit.

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>>389016704
>Sequel has less content

>>389016000
>game comes out
>DLC character's data is already in the game
>download is just unlock=true

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>>389012113
>downloading games
>not getting all your games on dvd-r

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>>389016770
>sequel is worse than the original
>removes cool weapons/powers and replaces them with shitty ones

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>>389016770
>Game is rebooted
>Has less content than the previous games
>Everything you loved has been removed and replaced with generic pandering game mechanics

>>389016909
Imagine if Morrowind got remade by Bethesda on the new creation kit engine, but they "balanced" the magic and combat system, and added settlement building to the game.

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>>389016810
>having a disc drive in 2017

>>389016909
Everyone and their mother was telling me to get Battlefront but I wasn't retarded.

Crafting forced into every game.
No in game prizes for 100%a game because why bother when retards will do everything for golden trophy
As mentiond in thread mandatory install for every game

>>389016979
Don't forget their brilliant mod microtransactions.

>>389012950
>Will the early access zombie survival pvp multiplayer open world sandbox crafting meme ever die?
it already has

>>389012950
Did someone mention Metal Gear Survive?

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>lootboxes in EVERY game now

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>>389017171
>You always get the defense that you don't have to buy the fucking lootboxes
>Lootboxes indicate the game will be very grindy

>>389015657
What kind of political compass is this?

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>60 dollar game comes with microtransactions and lootboxes
>It's barebones
>DLC comes out that makes the game playable
>You've already spent twice the price of the game on DLC so you can keep playing with others

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>>389017246
>lol they're just cosmetics

>>389017364
>>60 dollar game comes with microtransactions and lootboxes
But anon, these poor devs have to make profit SOMEHOW :^)

>>389017246
>You don't have to pay for these customization options that are in the game
This always bothers me

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>buy a game that's been out for a while
>20 gb update from all the past patches
>not even any good exploitable bugs in the base version

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>>389017427
>im okay with buying dlc and loot boxes because i support game devs

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>Game boasts that it has a morality system and choices
>None of it changes the narration

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>>389012113
>download slav repack of the same game
>10 gb

>>389017246
>>389017409
So can you actually give me some arguments about why having optional cosmetic lootboxes is bad? Don't get me wrong, I'm against them too, but honestly I'm not sure why I'm against them. People keep telling me that it's bad and I don't like seeing them in games, but since it's just cosmetics I also don't see why anyone but people who are completely anal about cosmetics would care.

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>>389012113
More than anything, we're fucking tired of being pitched a bunch of ideas that haven't been polished or don't exist yet, while AAA companies push out unfinished games because they already planned the next 3 rehashes whose development cycles have all been scheduled already.

And then the fact that it's all either AAA and indies. All middle-sized studios got bought up and closed/assimilated.

>>389017718
I'd rather unlock them desu

>>389017718
I honestly have no problem with lootboxes myself. I have problem with the unlocking system itself. Because the game is built around the lootboxes. Lootboxes are meant to help you get what you want faster. Which means that unlocking the stuff ingame and without money will be a much higher grind.

>>389017718
Back in the day you used to unlock cosmetic options in game.

The only good thing about today's vidya is the grafix. This is a fact, thus, undebateable.

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>It's a single player game
>Microtransactions

>>389017724
>All middle-sized studios got bought up and closed/assimilated.
kids nowadays don't even know what those are
go to the EA wiki page and look at every game company they've ever bought
blizzard used to just be blizzard before activision bought it

i miss ravensoft

>>389012113
>Game size is increasing more rapidly than hard drive, usb, SD card sizes
Uh oh.

>>389012113
Just had this happen to me this week.
>buy No More Heroes PS3
>finally find a physical copy that isn't cumstained from Ebay
>excited for DLC shit like neat character viewer
>all delisted
>also buy Way of the Samurai 3
>delisted on PSN with all of its DLC aside from free ones
fug man, it kinda hurts but I don't know how to explain it. I didn't feel like playing either for a day or two. Why does shit like this happen anyway?

>Big companies makes bank off of sleazy moves and general fucking over their fanbase
>Even get called out for it and it draws attention
>Fanloyalists and the common gamer keeps buying these company's game, keeping them afloat

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>Gacha

>>389018094
>couldn't download Shuma Gorath for a while

>>389017718
>So can you actually give me some arguments about why having optional cosmetic lootboxes is bad?
instead of working on content that will improve the game for everyone, let's bloat the game's software with unoptimized code designed around cosmetics which only people with expendable income can get, and let's have the game's size inflate over the years without compensating for it

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>Demos are hardly a thing anymore
>Because they obviously cost companies money
>Company actually releases a demo
>It's the first few hours of the game
>It's highly polished
>Game comes out, they get alot of quick money from the demo players preordering
>After the few hours, the game turns to utter shit, plagued with glitches and half assed work

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>Servers that are divided by DLC content, like map packs
>Soon there is hardly anyone to play with, since the game's playerbase has been split into fractions

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>starter edition
>standard edition
>deluxe edition
>gold edition
>complete edition

>>389018464
>Shuma Gorath
is that from MvC2? or 3?

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>>389012113
>people still fall for the hype after Metal Gear Solid 2

>>389013880
>ark isn't out of early access

You're telling me they're selling physical copies of the game on console while still being in early access?

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>Game gets sequel
>It's better than the 1st
>Game gets a 3rd game
>It's max pandering to casuals, yet still trying to please the core fans, making it a mess that no one wants to play
>Game series ends on a bad note

>>389016413
r1 r2 l1 l2 l d r u l d r u was Tier 3 weapons I think.

>>389016979
>imagine if morrorwind was remade so you didn't miss every attack for the first 5 levels

It'd be a massive improvement

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>>389018495
>tfw I kinda missed the manuals that came in the box
>usually had all of the controls, and some cool artwork that came along with it, explaning the characters, story, or what have you
>now they're like 3-4 page filler, if at that
>now have to wait for deluxe edition or any other equivalent that comes with an artbook while the game throws how to do certain commands throughout the whole beginning of the game
>or even tell me to take breaks

>>389019002
I wouldn't say 2 is better than 1.

I absolutely loved 2, but it was definitely more action focused. The first was more atmospheric and spoopy.

3 was lol

>>389019167
>Instead of a manual, it's a two sides piece of cheap paper that is basically an advertisement

>>389019002
>>389019248
Oh, and forcing us to use origin to play a game is really, really stupid.

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>>389012113
>We want to appeal to a broader audience.

>>389018793
>Highest Edition still doesn't have all the content

>>389016691
But why? It doesn't even look that good. Did they pack it full of uncompressed prerenders @ 1080, 1440, & 4k? Like that makes no sense at all, really.

>>389018823
Tree.

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>>389019261
>>389019167
>buy PS3 game
>open box
>oooooh yeah baby that's a thick manual
>slowly open
>it's just 5 pages of the EULA and epilepsy warnings then repeat for 5 languages

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>>389019321
>First two games on Steam
>Third isn't

>>389019139
>miss miss miss meme

You fucking autists took a community joke, misunderstood it and then began forcing it as an absolute truth.

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>>389012113
>tfw brother keeps bringing up online multiplayer games and wondering if they have offline multiplayer
>they never do

>>389013929
>requires top of the line GPU to run at above 60 fps
You're forgetting
>requires top of the line CPU also to run the game at a decent pace

>>389019486
It's not a meme? For the most part unless you've played the game before and know what stats to dump into, you will be missing most of your attacks for the beginning of the game. It's annoying as fuck

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>>389019568
>split screen is pretty much dead

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>>389012113
>multiplayer games without offline bot mode

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>>389019432
>And this is even implying the game ever comes with a manual to begin with, and the EULA warnings aren't just in some settings segment
it hurts

>>389019732
Why have split screen.

That's a lost sale!

>Dark Souls is 3 gigabytes on PC
How

>>389019695
No, it's not. You can have up to 45 in Long Blade at level 1 with a Redrugard, 40 with Imperial and Dark Elf. That almost assures that every hit you make on enemies of your level and even many above that, will always connect. The only people having issues with Morrowind are people that don't know how to read. Or those that bite off more than they can chew and get mad at the game giving them no chance of victory unless they come Batman prepared with scrolls and magical items aplenty, but the same people are usually too stupid to understand practical applications of such things.

>>389012113
>FF15 apparently has a 170GB size on PC
I hope that's just with optional 4K textures.

>>389019772
Literally didn't buy Halo 5 because no splot screen.

>>389019964
Same here.

Glad I didn't.

What a lie the advertising was.

>>389016790
This should be illegal

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>>389017171
>they're showing up in single player games now

>>389017718
It's pathetic cashcow beating practice, and mostly unethical too since it's actually marketed towards unhealthy people and children, which is whatever in reality. It's just one of the many features that have made their way into gaming in the last 10 years or so that have borne a toxic and greedy means to a highly profitable end.

DLC is wholly unnecessary as a product and the common practice of D1DLC is just bad politics, period, it's incredibly rude to push that shit to your customers. Pre-order bonus is much the same, it's a means to generate legitimate numbers for sales and marketing information to show off to board members.

Generic regurgitation of tried and true concepts is another rut that the developer community is stuck in. This is actually a challenging barrier here, as most things have been tried to some extent, the direction of open world expansion is trying to drive in new methods of interaction as well as generally broadening the span of the content, with that said it's never been done well. This is why we get CoD, Halo, Battlefield, OW, and WoW expansions instead of new IPs, because they're incredibly complex and take years to produce. An example is The Division which while it may not have been publically stated I have no doubt Ubi was putting pressure on them for an early release instead of allowing the developers to finish the game. Unfortunately Ubi got their money.

>>389016079
they are called microtransaction now.

>>389019757
Do PS4 games even have manuals? Whenever I pick one up to look at Gamestop they're really light.

>Character you like playing in the game gets nerfed to all hell because shitters don't know how to properly fight your character

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>$60 AAA game has two types of currency or more

>>389020389
I don't really think they do in general. Then again, last game I went out to get for my ps4 was Disgaea 5. But it came with the artbook anyway.

>>389018952
not him, but it wouldnt surprise me in the least

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>>389019465
i've been wondering about this shit
if I buy Mass Effect 2 or Dead Space on steam will I have to use origin?
i remember buying Far Cry 3 on steam and and, even though I did indeed buy it on steam, I had to actually play it through ubisoft's own shitty program
i was pissed

>>389020176
It should be. Most of the business practices we see in video games would be illegal in the real world. It will not stop until international laws are pushed against those practices.

>>389020389
I have personally never seen a PS3 game that had a manual. Let alone a PS4.

When people ask me why I think that's strange, I show them my Xbox Huge game box contents.

>>389019870
>you can have the stats to not miss if you play these certain races

Kek

>OPEN WORLD
>SURVIVAL
>CRAFTING
>ROUGE LIKE

>>389020389
They usually come with a single paper with controls on it, sometimes an ad for an upcoming game, maybe even dlc codes for day one editions

>>389020495
Nope. Dead Space 1 and 2 do not have to be connected on Origin.

Probably because of the servers for multiplayer in 3. Maybe once they shut down the servers, it will go to steam.

>>389020487
It released on Aug 29th. It's out of early access

>>389019732
I think you might be looking for it on wrong consoles.

>>389019916
Pretty sure that was a mistake.

>$50 = €50

>>389020806
Good.
Because it was already 50GB on PS4.

>>389016759
>2 TB of internet

My friend do you have a cap? And if so, is that an absolute cap? Being stream-heavy and download-happy at a 500 GB cap I ended up using ~341 GB in a month after giving literally zero fucks and doing whatever I pleased including installing GTA V twice (don't ask), are you really that worried with 2 TB?

>>389020518
Yes, those are the rules of the roleplaying game. Some races are better suited to becoming melee fighters than others. Nothing prevents you from doing well as anything with any weapon, but that actually means you have to pick your starting skills correctly. Stats aren't that relevant in fact, until later.

>>389017718
>The devs have made content
>which is in the game
>which you can't have unless you pay again
Why do you need something so basic explained to you?

>>389020473
>>389020508
>>389020570
It's that bad, huh? Also, PS3 manuals are dime a dozen, they just greatly vary in quality. Most Japanese made games have really nice manuals, e.g. Killer is Dead, Resonance of Fate, so I use them as the standard for good manuals.

>>389021421
Pretty much. You're lucky to get fuck all.

>>389021302
But what about games where you can earn the lootcrates by playing, a la Overwatch?

>>389021135
>pick Viking nord
>can't hit worth shit

>>389021519
Why not just unlock it through convential means instead of gambling?

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>Game of the year edition comes out
>All the dlc, for the normal, or lower, game's price
>The nice coverbox art is ruined with abunch of dicksucking comments and ratings

>Game's use of a song runs out after a while
>Patch comes out that removes the song


>Censorship in general

>>389013838
but not your hard drive...

in terms of moving parts it's even worse. And unlike a defect BR drive, you can't play anything with a defect HDD.

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>>389021802

>game uses licensed music
>loses license
>replaced with royalty-free shit

>>389021647
>tfw it's more worth it to get a game a year or two after it's well been out to make sure you get everything available for no extra cost
>insert comment about getting games at release and just finding out ways to unlock shit

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>di ver se high def CINEMATIC experience

i just want to play video games, buzzcuts are not fantasy

>>389018793
D A Y

O N E

E D I T I O N

>>389021519
but they aren't unlocked quickly
it's incentive to buy the crates

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>>389012113
>go to download a demo for a 2016 game
>26GB

>>389012113
Rock textures

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>buy game
>its shit, twice as bad as it predecessors
>they expect money for the DLC

shante...

>>389016674
Honestly with my download speed it doesn't make a difference

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Where have the times gone when you could just borrow a game CD from your friend, copy it and that was that?

>>389012113
>It's all uncompressed audio

>Preorders make shitty games still profitable

>>389022269
Fuck rainbow siege

>free weekend
>download 6 gb thinking that's it
>downloads another 20 or so (I forgot) gb
>play the game and hate it
>out precious hours of time and bandwidth

>>389017062
horizon zero dawn gives you a theme when you get platinum
its not that great, the limited edition one is better

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>Fighting games with "Seasons" of characters
I'll only excuse it for KI because they were on a budget.

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>>389020873
>$50 = 1500 RUB

>>389019352
>bethesda keeps rereleasing the same shit under a new gimmick to stall until they release TESVI

>>389023076
I used to be excited for TESVI, but seeing what shitshow Bethesda has become I honestly can't see it being anything but shit. Well, not that any Elder Scrolls game is particularly good, but you get the point

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>Game features memes or references to a e-celeb
>Bonus points if it's a beloved series that has never done this before

>>389021064
convinced me not to get it, thanks

>>389022716
>Pay double the price of the game for "deluxe edition" that includes the DLC
>It's only the first couple packs, doesn't even include them all
GET
FUCKED

>>389021421
once in a thousand years you get a poster in the physical copy
witcher 3, skyrim, fallout 4 and xenoverse 2 are ones i got a poster/map with in the box

>Game pushes political or social agendas
Why would you intentionally alienate parts of your customer base for no benefit?
The first thing that comes to mind is DA:I and including a trans character literally only to shame you if you disapprove of it

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>DELUXE DAY ONE ULTIMATE MEGA PACK BONUS EDITION

I miss when you could unlock cool things with gameplay.

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>>389012113
>He doesnt have 50 mbps internet in 2015+2

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>Every second time you go to play the game there's a 20 minute update you have to download
>Don't even want to play online but it's still mandatory
Fuck right off

>>389012113

I miss "fun" glitches to be honest. I screwed around for hours and hours in OoT and Mario 64 just breaking the game. It made it feel so replayable and even mysterious. You can't really do that in games anymore

>>389023473
Where I live there are literally two options for internet, and both are poverty-tier garbage that is still expensive because Canadian ISP jews
When I call customer support about outages or pathetic connection their response is basically ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ because I can't go to anybody else

>>389017002
Burning discs to work on old computers without usb drivers is a godsend you toddler.

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>>389016674
I could download 62gb faster than it would take me to go to the store and pick it up, which is already faster than even the fastest shipping from online retailers.

>The trend of cinematic gaming growing like a cancer in Western games

I got a PS4, Uncharted 4 came with it, it was the most boring game I have ever played.

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>2014
>fibre optic not available yet in my area
>get titanfall the day after launch
>get on origin
>3 day download

>>389023531
fucking this what the fuck

remember when games used to fucking come completed

>Console gaming prioritizing higher resolutions instead of high framerates, and no options to switch between these (I think Nioh does this)

I love Nintendo for making most of their first party games 60fps

>>389020641
>>389018952
In these guys defense, they sold an entire expansion pack during early access. You can't trust anything anymore.

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>>389023759
>using old computers

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>>389023705
>can get 1000/600 mbps down/up for 20 eur here

>Every game I buy on PC is tied to some annoying distribution software like Uplay or Origin that I don't want to use and provides virtually no benefit for me
I mean I got RS:Siege on Steam, and Uplay still opens every time I start it just to run in the background and do literally nothing helpful. And only once have I gotten a game that uses Origin that actually installed and worked properly without hours of fighting the program and contacting unhelpful support.

>>389017718
I'd rather unlock them by playing the game. When my only incentive to play overwatch is to get a new lewd skin, it's not a good game.

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>>389023705
>buy game
>needs to access the internet to install
>almost the full game
>even though I literally have the physical disc

>>389023895
>I love Nintendo for making most of their first party games 60fps
Yeah like Zelda and Xenoblade right?

>>389024049
this what the fuck

i didnt have internet at the time so i had to take my laptop to a fucking macdonalds to install saints row 2 even though i used the CD

>>389012113
Literally a 30 minute download.
You murricans need to upgrade from your copper cable internet.

>>389024052
Yes, that's why I said "most". If I wanted to say "all" I could've, if that was the truth.

>>389024052
>most
lrn2rd

>>389024049
This makes me mad. I want an official copy with everything on it, I'll pay double just to get that.

>>389023916
>not running all you dos games on a custom built win98 computer
Pleb

>no more great offline single player game

>>389023843
uh, no. even the original fucking doom had issues that were not solved until the source code was released online free 4 years later. shit, fucking pacman would glitch if you got past 256 levels and break.

>>389023945
Anything to do with phones, television, or internet is retardedly expensive here and absolute trash compared to Europe or the US.
Part of it is the more expensive infrastructure, but more importantly it's all run by an oligopoly of the three most useless, greedy corporations around since foreigners aren't allowed to compete.
Every once in a while the government talks about letting US companies in and they start complaining about how unfair it is and pretending they've ever given good service.

>>389024167
Non Americans need to realize the size of America. We can't just up and replace our old infrastructure as that would take a fuckton of time and money.

>>389024215
>Every singleplayer game has to have a half-assed, shitty online multiplayer mode shoved in

>>389016000
Thats a great thing.

>>389012113
>hard to time it so you have warm coffee or tea by the time it's done
>have to gulp down your cold cup and make new one
>new cup gets cold by the time your done freeing up space on your SSD so it has more than 10GB free space in case of crash and memory dump

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>>389024302
So you'd rather buy them?

>Game has offline mode
>you still need a internet connection to access the OFFLINE MODE
thanks GTA 5

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>>389024281
>200,000 mi2 smaller then europe
>"hey cant expect us to keep up with you dirty uncultured heathens"

>>389024281
Yes you can, it just that your shitty internet providers have a monopoly and no intention to improve it since they can milk you 5ever.
I've heard some of you guys are even paying 50 bucks for that garbage and have data limits, while we can have a top of the line flatrate for half that price.

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>harder difficulty is locked behind DLC/Paywall

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>>389012113
>Buy console game on launch physically so I don't have to install it
>now installing 11GBs of data

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Removing features
>RS2 gets yet another patch
>Read the notes
>"Corrects issues that would cause Russian players to be frequently disconnected from games"

>>389024231
But from what I've heard, burgers have the same problem, unless it's some major city.

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>>389024384
No I'd rather just fucking play my multiplayer game with all multiplayer features unlocked right from the start, rather than playing objectively terrible single player filler to access vital multiplayer aspects.

>>389024508
It's still better than ours
Our internet is regularly ranked as third-world tier.
The government's target for improving connectivity a couple years ago was for most people to be able to get an incredible 5mb/s

>>389012113
they're all shit

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>>389024567
I guess it's personal preference. I just enjoyed unlockong characters.

>>389024384
>>389024302
just on a semi related note: finishing a game like grand theft auto san andreas ment you have played and gotten good at EVERY aspect of the game. finishing ment you were not total shit. modern gta you can skip missions outright if flying is too hard or parking fast is too hard. i feel this way about fighters in games. it ment you had to be GOOD if someone had some character or was good at them, not just some shitter who googled the best meta and followed it, they had to win EVERY other part, or some of it at first

>>389024704
lmao you dont know shit about fighting games

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>don't have internet for a bit
Okay I'll just play [single player game]
>ALL DLC is disabled until you get an internet connection
>disables the entire game if it was a digital download

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>>389024704
>game let's you skip gameplay
Literally why are you even playing video games if you don't have the time to play them?

>>389024689
Leave cosmetics like stages, costumes and music to unlocks.
With characters its just ass.

>call itself roguelite
>no upgrade system after death

It always pisses me off not just when a game has DLC, but when it constantly reminds you ingame
>Some guy is at your party camp all the time
>Go to talk to him
>WHOOPS! You need the RANCID DOGSHIT DLC pack to access this content! Only $24.99 buy it now!

>>389024873
roguelite is an incredibly undefined subgenre.

>>389024393
>Playing MGSV
>MGSO launches
>A good 3/4 of my money and resources suddenly moved to my online platforms without asking me
>Every once in a while my internet shits out and I lose access to most of my stuff
>Soldiers leave because suddenly I have no money
At least let me opt out of this useless horseshit

>>389024873
Fuck dead cell for this

>>389024845
Unlockable characters are fine as long as they're not lootcrate/DLC shit or ingame currency you have to grind your ass off for.
Don't have that one character you unlock by beating ultra hard mode arcade or some shit? Get fucking good you casual.
That'd be like crying you can't get the weapon you want in an RPG because you're unable to beat the boss that drops it.

>>389024873
Aside from rogue legacy there is no good roguelite.

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>Do normal shit every player has to do in the course of playing the game, like completing a necessary quest
>You got a trophy!
Why

>>389025078
Its not about difficulty, everybody can exploit the braindead AI.
Single player in fighting games is always garbage.

Everybody agrees, which is why you get all characters unlocked these days.

Thats also a terrible analogy and you need to kill yourself asap for being that retarded.

>>389015171
Unless you are one of the many millions who live in a first world country and still has no access to a good internet or has a cap or Throttling, Australia and America for instance, or Italy, of those who have internet, only 10% has equal or more than 15 mb.

>>389025169
devs get forced to put in trophies and they cant be dicked to put in special conditions for them.

achievements are generally a fucking mistake.

>>389025172
I buy fighting games only for the single player, arcade and story mode...

>>389025172
If it's so easy what's the problem?
You actually have to play the game?

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>>389025251
you're a weirdo. go play some with some brehs, its fun!

>>389025260
the issue is that single player in fighting games fucking sucks.

>>389012113
>buy a PS4 CD
>game is over 40 gigs
What's the point in the fucking CD then? Are they just physical keys?

>>389025347
Yeah every time I buy a game now I wonder what is even on the disk and why I need to bother with it, considering I still have to download literally the entire game online when I put it in

>>389020873
>$60 = €75
fucking gamestop

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>>389012113
Everything
>we are gaymers
>twitch shit and streaming shit
>heroes genre fucking everywhere even on nu-quake
>dlc, early shit, fucking 80 gb for a game, fucking achivments and that abomination of steam
>FUCKING GAMBLING EVERYWHERE

I just don't give a shit about modern games anymore, i just want my Bannerlord and Ace Combat 7.

>>389012113
>buy indies
>most are under 10 GBs
>have only one idea, but execute and expand on it, without fat and padding
>updates bring new content, while devs listen to what community has to say
>no dls, pre-order bonuses, tacked-on online modes
>soundtracks are PWYW at bandcamp or $10 tops
But it's pixel indieshit, right?

>>389015171
That's over a week of downloading, if I only leave it going at night because I want to use the internet in the day.

>>389025347
>PS4 CD
...

>>389012746
their dying breed is trying to compete with chad PCcock, they have no choice

>>389025475
>Buy indie game
>It's half-finished artsy dogshit
>The devs are still self-entitled assholes who can't take any criticism

>>389024884
>Complete a galaxy spanning trilogy
>Final words are 'now go buy dlc lol'

>>389025604
>buying early access
You have only yourself to blame really.

>>389025475
indies can be alright but they lack the expertise and budget for some proper stuff.

you will never see a game like devil may cry or monster hunter from indies.

>>389019695
The stats are called shit like "long blade" and "blunt weapon" and "spear". If you're too retarded to figure out what stats you need to use in Morrowind then you should talk to your carer about getting you some activities that are more suited to your abilities.

I had literally no trouble with it when that game came out and I was not a smart kid.

>>389017718

It's manipulative and preys on the weak willed, stupid, and gambling addicted. If that's not bad enough, they make the overall experience worse because incentive needs to be given to pay real money for it. So a game with minimal amounts of grinding for skins and extra content will have the grind jacked up to encourage people to buy the skins directly, or worse, buy randomized boxes for extra chances. If you ever play a game and think "I'd rather pay money to skip this part instead of actually playing it" then you're playing a game with shitty, exploitative mechanics.

>>389025604
>buy indie game
>it's fucking great
Wish I woulda backed Shovel Knight when it first came up.

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>>389017718
I know this is a fucking bait, but lootboxes is literally gambling. If your game rely on this i know for sure it's fucking shit.

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>Modding is only tolerated by developers if they can either squeeze shekels out of it or leave modders to create half the content

>>389025667
That's why you buy only indies and eastern games. West AAA development can suck a big black cock for all I care.

>No borderless fullscreen
>dlc fuckfest but half of it should've been in the base game
PARADOX YOU JEWS
>terrible port, and settings/options are a fucking blunder
The Evil Within was a fucking joke for a game made in 2014.

>>389015171
>62 GBs is a 49 hours download for you
sucks being in a shithole I tell you

>>389021092
I have a 500GB cap too and it's fine every month that I don't download a game. If I do I run out guaranteed.

>>389016000
>almost no more unlockable costumes or hidden/bonus items for beating a game fast anymore

Glad DLC and MTX took care of that!

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>>389019568

https://pastebin.com/wmV5xijY

This is a list of PS2 games that allow for 4 and sometimes more players to play together.

Considering the hassle of all those cords and having to buy a special attachment to make up for the 2 controllers limit

Consider this list does not has a FIFA or Madden for each year (madden is not even there)

And is 111 games.

Consider from the PS3, the controllers limit was increased, something like 8. Consider that PS4 and XBONE are "the most powerful consoles ever".

Consider these words.

>>389024884

Does Dragon Age actually have this?

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>>389025475
>t. Phil Fish

>>389025883
In DA:O there were a couple dwarves who would show up at your party camp early on, and talking to them would initiate a quest.
Except as soon as you get to the option of accepting the quest the game goes WHOA NOW that's DLC!

>>389025475
10Gb for 2D Pixel indie shit is the equivalent of 60GB+ AAA games...

>>389019732
about 80% of the wiiu library was local multiplayer/splitscreen shit.
looks like the switch will offer more of that.

>>389023473
What the fuck?
I didn't even know anything under 100mbps even existed anymore

>>389025986
>all indie games are 2D pixelshit
No wonder you faggots complain all the time.

>>389026036
Mine is usually sub-1mb/s. Living in a rural village in the north of england is fun.

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>Game has character creation
>Assets used by the good-looking premade characters are all unavailable and you can only make your custom character look like a fucking troglodyte

>>389026080
Yea... small/mid sized studios with actual publishers claiming to be "indie". The term lost all its meaning yonks ago.

>>389022269
>DOOM free weekend
>like..60Gb?
>my ISP is throttling me so I download at 1/5 of the speed I should
>still manage to download it
>TOO BAD is only the first 2 levels
>but the multiplayer...
WHICH SUCKS and next to nobody likes.

>>389026120
Damn..
1000mbps is pretty much the standard here, unless you're really poor.

>>389026036
i have 12 megabit satellite internet. fuckin rural america

>>389025756
why? it extends a games lifespan because theres money involved.

the only reason runescape isn't dying is because of staking/gambling

>play a game
>constant npc chatter in the top right of your screen telling you things you already know or talking between themselves

I wish this voice actor strike thing was the real deal.

>>389026275
Just outside the boundaries of a major Canadian city, mine peaks at like 10mbps

How fast is the internet in the world? I live in fucking Peru and last year I finally got upped from 20 to 60mbps so 62GB should be done in less than 3 hours.

I had assumed people that didn't live in shitholes like mine would be doing even better so what's the deal with this thread.

>>389012113
>> new 120mb update for total war warhammer
>> not enough disk space available to update Total War: WARHAMMER (35.8 GB required)

Apparently what the game copies itself and then patches the copy, payday 2 had a similar update process.

>gaming before 2006
>don't need to patch games to enjoy it
>patches may include extra content.

>2017
>One day internet is out so I try shadow run remastered on the Epic games launcher, which "has" offline mode
>later internet comes back
>update the launcher
>it does not have offline mode anymore only a "log later" but you can't actually start the game
WHY? DO THEY PAY YOU IF I GO ONLINE? It was a (given for) free, single player game, why do I need to be online with an account?

Not so much the games themselves, but can developers not find anybody in their companies that don't fucking suck at their own games?
I've been watching gameplay videos of a bunch of to-be-released stuff recently and without fail the employee playing can barely stumble through the segment and blatantly has needs cheat codes on to not fail

>>389026427
I think people who live in "shitholes," especially stable ones like Peru, tend to overestimate former first world countries.

>>389026427
Competition is basically illegal in the first world and infrastructure is left entirely up to the free market.

>>389023531
>buy FEAR 2 at a Store
>install requires Steam, but I already had it so is fine
>whoops there's an update, can't play till you get it

I miss when you could simply tell Steam to not update the damn game.

>>389026605
uhhh no that's just America

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100 mbps 25 a month, the netherlands

its a well known fact that americans get fucked hard when it comes to internet providers, but they are so used to getting to getting fucked that they're ok with it

unrelated: had to get my appendix taken out, and i'm not thousands of dollars in debt, feels good

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>>389026491
>Mfw seeing that the AAA games on my computer are each taking up like fucking 60Gb somehow
>Every update adds at least another 15

>>389021647
>buy GOTY edition
>go to used game shop the next day
>steal regular cover and replace it with GOTY one

>>389015903
>3D game lags
>"What this game is isn't even that graphical???"
>Anti alias on
>Turns off
>Game runs perfectly with no lag whatsoever and looks about the same

Every fucking time

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>>389026319
>why? it extends a games lifespan because theres money involved
You answered yourself, content and a modding community is the only solution, but of course it's impossible when there are so much economic systems all around.

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>>389015903

>There's no option to turn anti-aliasing off

>>389026427

It's completely fucked in America because of crony capitalism. Many first world countries also have decades old infrastructure, so it takes quite a bit time and money to get a modern setup.

>current AAA games are so big I had to delete the porn I had saved from 2009

the real crime

>>389016208
?¿ why

>>389026427
Its 62 GB of you HDD/SDD, unless you unistall your games when you are done with them. Then the complaint becomes "i have a few minutes to play some game, but i cant play the one i want because even though i own it i still have to wait 3 hours for it to download".

>>389026672
>So used to it
Nobody is really okay with it, they just have no real outlet to force any improvements
In Canada everybody despises the ISPs, but the government division that's meant to regulate them is fucking spineless and nothing ever gets done to fix the situation

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>>389026427
>>389026672
This is what I get for $10/month in Sweden

>>389024884
>Ass Creed Unity
>the work of hundreds of people across various studios all over the world
>meticulous recreation of late 700s Paris
>everyone speaking french, people interacting with one another creating the illusion of a living thriving breathing city

>litter it with chests that constantly remind you that you don't have that DLC

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>buy a disc
>mandatory install of a couple dozen gbs
>load times are still unbearably long

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>>389026853

>tfw Telia are one of the few ISPs who went against the bill to block internet access to torrent sites
>But their internet is shit

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>>389012113
>alloted 50 gb a month
>can't afford to download a single AAA game lest I go into overages
>have gone technologically backwards to the point where I buy the physical game online and have it mailed to me

I can't be doing with this

>>389025347
Oh the game is on the disc that's for sure. It just runs like absolute shit without the install.

i have a friend from India who has a 35gb monthly download limit, poor guy

>>389018465
>>So can you actually give me some arguments about why having optional cosmetic lootboxes is bad?
Team Fortress 2. Dota 2.

>>389027149
those are both really good games where microtransaction systems impede gameplay very little or not at all

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>>389015903
Antialiasing:
FXAA
MSAA
FXAA+MSAAx2
FXAA+MSAAx4

>>389020462
>you can only unlock the 2nd type of currency by buying it with IRL money

>>389026965
Wat?
I've never heard of an ISP in favor of blocking torrent sites.
I used to work for Telenor when they were forced to "block" pirate bay and they spent a lot of money to fight that court decision.

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>>389026036
>all these shitters crying because they have less than 100mb/s
this is the face of true suffering

>>389027257
>impede gameplay very little or not at all
They fucking obliterated TF2 and they have made Dota 2 a bloated mess, with retarded crashes, game-breaking bugs that allow enemies to see you in fog for example. Not to mention that they both singlehandedly stopped Valve actually making videogames.

>>389027348

How much do you pay?

>>389027346

They weren't in favor of it, they were forced to by law

http://www.swedroid.se/bredbandsbolaget-tvingas-blockera-utvalda-sajter/

>>389027376
15€ a month
>yuropoor
it's not even a matter of price, it's just my region doesn't have the infrastructure to get a quality connexion
also every provider eat together every day to fuck the customer as much as possible

>>389027354
You don't have an argument. Both of those games were succesful and have more consumer friendly mtx systems than their competitors.

>>389027486
I just fucking told you why they were bad. This thread is not about shit in videogames that's successful from a business standpoint, or everyone would be saying loot crates are the best fucking thing ever. Christ you're a dumb fuck.

>>389027416
Yeah, exactly.
Being forced to block content is usually really bad publicity and something ISPs want to avoid at all cost.

>>389027551
The Dota 2 bugs you mention were fixed months ago.

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>>389018793
this fucking cancer

>>389027348
Stay strong, Uganda-anon ;_;

>>389027581
When valve fix one bug they create 50 more. This is fact.

>>389027661
This is true for every software project larger than "Hello world!"

>>389027640
>Uganda-anon
I live in a country that's supposed to be top 10 in the world
that's the detail that make everything even more funny
also I live 10 minutes from the capital, that's the icing on the cake

>>389027720
It wouldn't be if Valve didn't bloat their game with pointless cancer cosmetics :^)

Welcome back to the point. Let's hope you get it this time.

>>389027762
Germany?

>>389027820
Those pointless cosmetics fund the game, and they do so in a way that barely affects free players at all.

If you have some sort of crusade against MTX then Valve is really an awful target to go for.

>>389027854
almost
germany's direct slave country
hon hon

>go download a game made before 2015
>5 GBs
>shitty compressed to hell and back audio and eye cancer textures
Okay, I guess it takes less space but is it really worth the massive dump of shit quality drop? I think not, grandpas
>they say Halo is babbys first fps and the ones before were way better
>try one
>no regenerating health and bullshit difficulty out of the ass even on Medium
Okay so how is this good game design? Tell me how wasting time looking around for medkits improve gameplay for anybody involved. And just because you die over and over because of bullshit doesn't make games good either.

>FMV during loading screen.

It slows down the loading time, doesn't it? It take it because it's reading the HDD to play the video which cuts into the load time.

>4 controller layouts
>can't customize buttons
>can't customize analogs
Timesplitters solved this shit over a decade ago, why are we going backwards?

>>389012113
>games that look worse than if they were made in 2004 run worse than games made in 2010

I can run Dragon age origins but cant pull 15 fps on tyranny, c'mon.

>>389018793
>complete edition isn't actually complete
>gold edition is the complete version

>>389027876
>Those pointless cosmetics fund the game
Gee however did Dota survive before valve came along! By the fucking sounds of it you likely supported paid mods as well.

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>Sonic Mania is below 500mb

>>389028037
Nigga it wasn't. It was bleeding players hardcore to LoL and HoN and you know it. Dota scene has never been bigger.

The FFXV updates just keep piling up on my PS4...