What am I in for?

>>389010853
Shitters telling you it's a shit game.

Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin

>>389010853
Contrarians telling you it's a good game

the best souls game

dead ends

>>389011041
>Highly rated by everyone everywhere else.
>The contrarians are the ones that like it.
Don't change /v/. Don't you ever change.

Surprisingly excellent framerate, decent gameplay and kinda goofy level design with a hub world that is full of fun references to sex with the female characters.

>>389011149
>normies have shit taste in video games
wow what a surprise

The second best Souls game objectively speaking, personally speaking its the best one

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>>389010939
because it is??? It feels like crap just to move your character. Ugliest Souls game too even though it was the 3rd Souls game made. It really tries to be hard just for the sake of being hard. It's pretty dumb.

>>389011225

Dark Souls 2 is actually a pleb filter, therefore hated by normies like you

>>389011286
>Ugliest souls game.
That should probably go to Gears of Souls 3.

>It really tries to be hard just for the sake of being hard.
It's not any harder than DaS1. You shitters just couldn't adapt.

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Some of the laziest and worst boss design you'll ever see.

Third person King's Field. If you're not familiar with KF, it's garbage.

Best Souls game. You're gonna see shitters hate it cause it's actually not as easy as DS1 and 3.

I heard it's hard.

>>389011685
I was playing through this recently, all of the enemies in Doors of Pharros glitched and wouldn't move at all. It was fucking funny.

>>389010853
Best Dark Souls game but still just a 7/10 game

>>389010853
An okay game that feels more of a slightly more polished version of PS2 era ARPGs than current generation's games, but is a comfy and entertaining experience in the long run.

>>389011783
>being this uninformed

It's not a glitch. Joining the rat covenant turns all the enemies in the area into allies.

>>389011974
Oh weird.

>>389011596
I said it TRIES to be hard. Shit like not letting you pull individual enemies, traps that give you no hints that they are about to happen (like the ogre who busts through the door as you open it), enemies that are magnetized to you, rooms full of trash mobs, but it pisses all that away by letting you have so many ways of healing and running away that it's hilarious.

>>389010853
Have you played a DaS game?

>>389012048
I've yet to play a game of 2's scope with such frail mechanics.

>>389012097
No but I'm a pretty hardcore MonHun player, I ws told this game is supposed to be pretty similar? I was curious.

>>389012157
It's slow and weighty, that's where the similarities end. You should play Demon's or Dark Souls first, 2 being a bad game is not a meme.

>>389012048
DaS2 really is the pleb filter of the series.

>>389012157
As your first Souls game, you'll probably get lost in the starting area, so don't be afraid to google a progression path if you do. Also, running like a bitch to grab items is a valid strategy sometimes too.

With patience and perseverance, it should be a pretty good game. Some boss fights will suck depending on your build though.

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POST DAS2 WEBMS!!!

>>389013037
>Post old, unpatched, and irrelevant webms.

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>>389013074

horrendous combat controls
Might & Magic 6-8 texture work
nonsensical shit everywhere
unfinished areas to the point that placeholder textures are still visible
one graphical fuckup after another

>>389010853
First thing you should do is get the ring that halves the health penalty on death. It's piss easy to get at the start. Just go through the sewers instead of the tunnel with the gate.

>>389013265
>The fucking falconeers animations
>They actually kept them ingame

>>389013201
>An enemy literally, unequivocally has No Guard

>>389013395
The fact that they left shit like King's Passage completely untouched even in SotFS is nothing short of audacious.

Lots of content and areas and lore and combat
Basically the best DaS

>>389013201
To this day I still have no idea how I'm supposed to properly fight these without just poisoning them with arrows or doing a suicide run for the Brume Tower key. Like, what?
>Endless fireball spam in front
>Sweeping tongue attack
>Can instantaneously turn around you
>Forward sliding attack where the entire body becomes a hitbox so you are hit even on a side, behind them, wherever you are as long as you are in melee range
I played Souls for years and I don't get them. I even enjoyed SOTFS for what it was (at least, better than the vanilla game) but at times the design baffles me.

>>389010853
The dark souls of Dark Souls

>>389013687
they are just reskinned dragon asses from DaS1 that have been given a mouth and bullshit attacks. I hate them.

>>389013705
Woah.

>>389013687
They're the only enemy in DaS2 that's legitimately bullshit if you don't cheese them.

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>>389010853
QUALITY in game form

>>389014023
This shit happens in every DaS game.

>>389013687
The only way I could consistenly kill ONE was to pull +10 Grand Lance drop attack from the higher level. Fuck actually fighting those things.

>>389014023
The meme "The dlc areas are the best content in souls ever" has to die. At best they were above the terrible DaS2 average (with shulva being the best, probably, which isn't really saying much since Shulva is just a collection of extremely boring squared rooms with nothing adorning them) and at worst they offer the worst content in the series (The three 'co-op' areas, frigid outskirts being the cherry on top).

>>389013037
grab attacks are fucky in every souls game

>>389012349
Listen, I consider myself a casual gamer, and DaS2 was the easiest game in the series, it's close to being skyrim easy. Hell, I had more trouble with iudex gungnyr than I did with any boss in DaS2

>>389014320
DaS1 is way easier than DaS2

>>389010853
the shittiest dark souls game

>>389014315
DaS2 makes it worse since the terrible hitbox/hurtbox problem follows your character as well (your position is moved only after the end of the roll, which explains why so many times you are grabbed and 'teleported' in position). I don't know how it worked in the other titles, but they sure must have fucked something along the way because I don't remember ever having such problems in the other ones.

A friend of mine had me start Dark Souls 1 at his house. I had watched him play it a couple of times before so I wasn't completely clueless. Anyway, what's the best build? He said Strength or Dexterity are the go-to for most people but Faith is really strong but kinda hard. The Dexterity build just resonates with me though. Advice? First time playing through the game

>>389014320
>Skyrim easy.
Way to invalidate your opinion with just two word. Dying is Skyrim is virtually impossible.

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>>389011596
>Dark souls 3 uglier than 2

Dark souls 2 is shit and op will be racing towards the end

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>>389014208
:^)

>>389014492
>Anyway, what's the best build?
The one you're most comfortable with.

>>389014527
Exactly my point, DaS2 is almost as easy as smyrim and as someone who died 20-30 times in DaS3 and over 70 in DaS1 I died atmax 10 times in 2.

>>389014720
Don't be ridiculous, N64 had better shading.

>>389014393
Just beat 2 for the first time last week (dropped originally at Iron Keep from disappointment), beat 3 for the second and third time last month, in the midst of replaying 1 now. 2 is an absolute joke, not a single challenge in the entire game outside of a couple areas that just have awful enemy placement. I'm not even good at Souls games and the only boss I died to more than twice was Smelter Demon, who took like 3 or 4 tries. 1 is kicking my ass by comparison.

>>389014815
>1 is kicking my ass by comparison.
Git gud.

>>389014452
Place 12-14 on ADP

>>389014720
>trying to hit those invisible fucks with a rapier
End my fucking life

Scorpion dude was a cutie and sad as fuck though

>>389014492
the game is probably easiest with a strength build and greatshield

dex has higher dps but your rolls need to be on point

>>389014930
Nah, it's ok, I just adapted at the fact that relying on i-frames in ds2 is stupid, it's better to just move out of reach. Makes fights too long at times, but alas, ds2 plays like that.

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>>389014720
having this play in the background made it even better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uInmFU6JkU

I love that part where theres invisible enemies in the woods that are impossible to see, and the only way to hit them is flailing at empty air and hoping theyre in front of you. No actual way to see them logically, like a torch or footprints or anything, you just have to KNOW

>>389014452
>your position is moved only after the end of the roll
This was fixed in SotFS. The only time you get "teleported" is if you get clipped by the hitbox, which happens in every entry in the series.

>>389010853
Massive amounts of disappointment.

>>389014894
Probably would've happened by now if it was ever going to, but "by comparison" moreso just meant it at least feels like the game has some semblance of challenge outside of a couple designated areas like >>389011286. DaS2 just felt skill-less.

>>389015014
>>389015156
I played Scholar and never happened to me. I think this was the reason.

>>389014646
How in the actual fuck do you die that many times in DaS3? You're full of shit my man.

at least 200 free (yous) of the same faggots shitposting ad nauseum for years

>>389015154
you can see them, but its tough
might even have to adjust gamma/contrast

>>389015257
Tried to take on dancer of the boreal valley at SL30.... not my proudest moment.

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>>389014646
Only 10? fucking casual pleb, I died ONLY when I was supposed to
Miyazaki came in his private jet and congratulated me. Also have me a plate with my name and an inscription

It says "This guy only died once in DaS2"

No I will not post the camera my internet is broken I can't even post this.

>>389014815
That you took 3 or 4 tries on the smelter demon is bad enough, but that you're struggling with 1 even more than that? I think you're just bad. 1 is definitely the easiest, poise is hilariously OP, and exploiting backstabs is GG for 90% of the enemies in the game.

>>389010853
A good game that gets shit on because DUDE THE LEVELS DON'T CONNECT SEAMLESSLY LOL

>>389010853
more dark souls

>>389015520

not him, but I kept dying to smelter because I paniced after MANDATORY FIRE DAMAGE kept lowering my health and I ran out of estus

>>389015585
There's obviously more problems than just that you mongoloid.

>>389015585
Also BAAWW I GOT GANKED BY 2HP UNDEADS WTF MAN
NO I WILL NOT SWITCH TO A BROAD ATTACK WEAPON

>>389015585
All this time I thought I hated it for having awful gameplay, mechanics, enemies and lacking level design.

>>389015675

>get halberd
>wow, this attack speed sure is fucking garbage even if I start my swing early
>JUST SWITCH, CASUAL

>>389012048
>shit like not letting you pull enemies

So casuals like you actually have to fight multiple ones?

>traps with no hint

Holy fuck it's like that's what a trap is

>so many ways of healing

Grass

>>389015756
If you can't handle a halberd then stick with the broadswords you silly willy tiny stupid fucking idiot cuckbitch ass cunt fuck

Shitty art direction and atmosphere: despite the fact that it's newer than DkS1 and DeS, it's still looks uglier than them and more disneylandish, the dark fantasy was weak in it.
shitty world design/layout: but DkS3 is worse in that regard. the star shaped world design/layout in DkS2 is a downgrade from its predecessor's complex metroidvania-like world.
Soul Memory.
Teleportation from the start: the thing that ruined the series for all games to come.
floaty and unsatisfying combat: fake omni-directional rolling, lack of feedback when you hit or get hit by an enemy, crappy animations...etc, the combat doesn't really have a good hefty feel to it, it's like you're fighting under water.
generic and unoriginal bosses: some of them could be beaten simply by circle strafing, but then again DkS3 has the likes of Yhorm, Wolnir, Deacons among other trash-tier bosses. basically a lot of the bosses and other elements in the game aren't as imaginative (weird, bizarre, fucked up) as the ones in games directed by Miyazaki, they're a bit more generic (BY SOULS STANDARDS).
Agility: this is one of the main reasons why combat felt shitty, you'd time your roll correctly but then notice your health mysteriously turned yellow and went down.

>>389015849

I played through DS1 up until O&S with the halberd, so i think I know how to fucking use it, asshat. They made attack animations absolutely FUCKED in the sequel

>>389010853
A mediocre fan-game.

>>389015917
If you can't use it, use something else.

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>>389015917
Sucks to be you, you have to learn a NEW game

BAWAAWAWAWWAWA

>>389015949

for a game that boasts having multiple build options, it sure doesnt let you do personal builds

>>389015835
traps ALWAYS have a hint. But DaS2 doesn't follow this rule because it has ACTUAL artificial difficulty.

also you can't say shit about DeS since it was the first one. DaS2 was the THIRD Souls game and it's worse than DeS and DaS1.

>>389015835
>>traps with no hint
>Holy fuck it's like that's what a trap is
Hooo boy...

>>389015917
Strange, my game lets me switch weapons...

>>389015917
I know what you mean. Them using mocapped animations for DaS2 fucked a lot of shit up. Looks ugly and plays even worse.

>>389016013

yah, what was I thinking expecting a weapon Ive used umpteen times to act the same

>>389016018
First of all, all difficulty in videogames is artificial. It's just a buzzword at this point.

Second, there are absolutely hints.

>>389015716
Goddamn you have a really shit opinion

What's your favorite souls game? Demons? LOL

>>389016014
Your personal skill isn't high enough to effectively use a halberd. That's not really the game's fault.

>>389016018
You can hear the ogre breathing behind the door.

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>>389016093
And it didn't.
Shame. Welp, what you gonna do?
Here's another tiny violin playing the tiniest saddest song.

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>>389010853
The worst souls game. It had some really nice ideas but the entire thing was just shit.

>>389016171

I rolled knight and had the skill requirements to wield it as soon as I picked it up. Why the fuck shouldnt I be able to wield it effectively

>>389016160
DeS and DaS.

>>389016291
He's telling you to get good you fucking mongoloid holy shit

>the average intelligence of the ds2 hater

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>>389015835
A trap should at least feel sketchy.
In DS3 for instance the crystal lizard that ran down the hallway and up the stairs with a pit right at the top. There was no tell that there was a hole at the top of the stairs, but the lack of a tell is itself a tell.

>>389016338

>I have the strength/dex to wield this weapon
>thus my character should still swing it like it weighs 100 lbs and Im overburdened

hmmmm

>>389016430
It swings slowly because it does good damage and has incredibly range. The fact that you can't exploit this is a personal problem.

>>389016507

I know it swings slowly, you fucking idiot, hence me saying IVE ALREADY USED A HALBERD

>>389016430
You don't get it, it swings slow as fuck and leaves you open because it hits like a tru- Oh wait, no, the Halberd is shit in 2. Just like all the other weapons not of the Strike type.

>>389016572
Halberds aren't made for stupids. Don't use a halberd, you're stupid.
Get some Hulk Gloves, the ones with the HULK SMASH recording

>>389016335
>DeS
>Literally the easiest game in the series
>UNLIMITED HEALING ITEMS, MULTIPLE HEALING ITEMS, MULTIPLE FARMABLE HEALING ITEMS
>first boss is a pile of shit with shields
>Literally just run through the legs of tower knight
>flamelurkers retarded AI gets cheesed
>Dragon god is a literal "puzzle"
>armor spider can't hit you if you stand to her side
>fool's idol LOL

I could seriously go on but you get my point

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>>389016729
>Not liking Armor Spider and Tower Knight

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>>389016367
>A trap should at least feel sketchy.

At least it's not shit like this which is almost like something out of a roadrunner cartoon.
All it needs are some "ACME poison shooting masks" labels and a giant "NOT A TRAP" sign.

>>389016430
The guy said you don't have the personal skill to wield it holy shit. Obviously you have the stats in game you retard, he's saying you're actually so stupid IRL you don't know how to use it properly

>>389010853
If you're a creative individual it might be your favourite game in the series. There's so much to do, so many secrets to find and an insane amount of builds that are viable for both PVP and PVE.

Still I can see why some people don't like it. Firstly it's quite different to the other Souls games by From Software, they clearly took a lot of risks with the game and considering it's rocky development it's very impressive it turned out so well.

Secondly the games initial release(not SOTFS) felt extremely lacking in nuance compared with the first Dark Souls. Enemy and item placement felt random and lacking in variety, item descriptions were sometimes contradictory to each other and to the first Dark Souls too. The initial release also had lots of bugs, bad textures and the lighting was butchered. Still most of these problems have since been fixed and the SOTFS edition is a fine game worthy of your time.

>>389016729
>>Literally the easiest game in the series
You could have stopped there, I already know what's your interest in this casual ARPG series.
>>UNLIMITED HEALING ITEMS, MULTIPLE HEALING ITEMS, MULTIPLE FARMABLE HEALING ITEMS
It's okay when Tanimura does it.

>>389016794
>t-theres no warnings of traps in 2!!!
>l-look at how obvious this trap is, it's almost cartoonish!!!

>>389016917
Most DaS2 complaints are incredibly contradictory.

>>389016773
I didn't say I didn't like them, but they're just as easy as any boss in dark souls 2, but for some reason it gets a pass

>final boss is literally a pile of goo, dies in 5 hits

>>389010853
As someone who sucks at vidyia I liked the difficulty. The only bullshit hitbox I noticed were gutter dogs (not saying there aren't any others) , and I liked how the difficulty didn't change from piss easy if you used a shield to absurdly hard without one. I still used it as a crutch to learn of enemy/bosses patterns, by the time the boss buffed himself I could two-hand.

>>389016794
Of all the nitpicky things to complain about.

>only played DeS, DaS and BB so far
>always contemplating skipping 2 because of all the DaS2 vs everything else threads. The order I've played them is DeS-> BB -> DaS

>>389017207
Why would you listen to /v/ shitposting?

>>389017207
Any game in the series is easy compared to bloodborne, so don't really expect a more difficult game

>>389017108
>As someone who sucks at vidyia I liked the difficulty.
I'm gonna let you in on a little secret, while these games do ask more from players than your average game out there they aren't overly challenging and nowhere near as hard as people make them out to be, the game also gives you a ton of tools like summoning and buffing your weapons with something the enemy is weak to.

>>389017207
Play it. After the sour taste I've began to appreciate aspects I've missed or took for granted about the other games. Just don't buy it, of course.

>>389017347
Such as?

>>389017207
DS2 is a decent game, but it's by far the worst out of the soulsborne games
DS3 is much better

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>>389017207

I'd agree with >>389017414, it's easily the worst game of the series but it is far from a bad game, definitely worth a playthrough or two.

>>389017207
only play das2 if youre interested in the series instead of just wanting to play a good game

It's not as bad as everyone says, it's still a good game, the areas are nice. Limited respawns suck though

>>389017329
You don't know the average player

There's a poster here that refused to switch weapons because of his fantasy with a halberd. there are players that died to the 5 Undead gangbang. There are people that can't and will never learn anything in their life period.

DaS games are fairly hard but manageable for you and me, but a meem impossible task for the rest. Super Ghouls and Ghosts would be a torture device to them. Any old game must have been the work of Satan.

People and kids are REALLY getting stupidier.

>>389017414
>>389017597
The thing is that your padding doesn't cut it, my man. It is objectively and subjectively the best Dark Souls. It just is. You want to fit in, but you don't.

>>389017403
The reactiveness of bosses through their movesets, without resorting to near perfect tracking. The work put into level design and its storytelling. The sweetspot in gameplay mechanics between commitment and room for recovery, not putting you on the defensive at all times. The tasteful (and heavy) usage of post processing throughout the game to make a rather low spec game look good.

>>389017414
>>389017597
>Linear world
>Teleportation from the start
>No weapon degradation
>Stamina management now non existent
>Lowest build variety
>Worst PvP
Quarantine for 3 apologists when?

>>389013687
>they respawn

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>389017849
Actually its that I've only played 3 and 2.

>>389017872
Weapon durability never mattered for these games, just like weight limit.

>>389017979
You only need to play DaS1 and 2

>>389018021

Depends on the weapon. I actually needed to keep repair powder handy for my dagger in DaS2, it would frequently break in the middle of boss battles. Durability is also used as a balancing mechanic for some of the fancier attacks from the novelty weapons. Those attacks tend to eat through a lot of durability.

>>389017597
>>389017414
DaS2 isn't just ok, it's actually the best.
If the best DaS isn't a DaS in your eyes, then DaS was never good to begin with.

>>389017979
You're missing out. Play DeS if you can, too.

>>389018021
Giving more uses for Souls and promoting experimenting with new weapons are good things, streamlining those out were poor decisions. Although the biggest offender is definitely allowing for teleportation at the start since that meant that the level designers didn't need to think of creative ways to have levels loop around on themselves and connect with other areas.

>boss does a sweeping attack and I take damage when I clearly dodged but it doesn't make a sound effect nor does it knock me out of my animation

This pisses me off for some reason.

>>389017979
Oh you thought I was praising 3? god my man my mate no. I was talking about 2.

>>389017872
>Teleportation from the start
>implying it's a bad thing
DS1 cucks are retarded as fuck.

>>389018021
Weapon durability didn't matter much but it still offers a fun build that allows you to fuck with other players. Even still, weapon durability in 3 is something that seems apparent but doesn't actually work(just like poise) making shit like repair powders completely pointless.

Weight limit definitely matters though, don't be dumb.

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>>389018365
>Having worse level design is a good thing

>>389018253
then lower your poise nigga

>>389010853
I had
>fun
With it

>>389018207
2 had durability drain twice as fast or something when running at 60fps.

>>389018245
You don't promote experimentation while also having a weapon upgrade system and rather steep stat requirements in your game.

>>389018370
By weight limit I mean item burden in DeS. Although the equipment burden is pretty stupid and you have no reason to mid or fat roll. 2's addition of tying roll distance to weight is even worse, shame 3 carried that over.

>>389018572
Underrated post.

>>389018419
>wasting fucking time
>it's good if DS1 does it
Cuck.

>>389018581
>2 had durability drain twice as fast or something when running at 60fps.

Nah, I'm talking about SoFS. The bug didn't exist in that build. I walked into a boss battle with a weapon at full durability and it would break before the boss was dead. Weapons that either have low skill requirements or novelty attacks tend to also have low durability, you'll often either need a backup weapon or repair powder.

>>389018835
Did SotFS add repair powders on the early game? I recall 2 not having any.

>>389018891

You buy them.

>>389019170
Which NPC? In vanilla neither the undead lady nor the blacksmith had them.

>>389019391
Blacksmith had one in vanilla IIRC

>>389019391
Lenigrast (Blacksmith) sells one right at the start of the game. There's one in the room above the merchant hag in the room you first meet her.

>>389019391

According to the wiki the blacksmiths and the guy in drangleic castle sell them.

I should point out durability was not an issue right from the start, I just had to keep in mind the weapon was not going to last forever whereas when I did a playthrough with a greatsword weapon durability never even crossed my mind. The DLC areas in particular was where it was a serious concern. For most of the boss battles in the DLC the weapon broke mid battle. To be fair, I guess people aren't expected to play through the game using nothing but daggers.

>Arguing with mentally ill DaS 2 fanboys
Why though?

>>389022075
>not arguing with mentally challenged DaS1 cucks
Why not though?