This scene ends the DEX vs STR argument forever.

>>389004727
>fictional fight
>written and choreographed by people
No.

link for the uninitiated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T8waHJfNUM

who wins i don't watch annie may

>>389004727
guts is both str and dex though

>>389004870
STR

>>389004935
That's melee vs gun, not STR vs DEX you faggot.

>>389005781
t. dex fag

>>389004727
But Guts is both max STR and DEX

>>389004727
More like it ends the Dex/Cha vs Str/Dex argument.

Guts basically has all physical stats maxed.

>>389006254
/thread

>>389004727
More like

Int/Dex/Cha vs Str/Dex/Vit

And if this was DnD, Guts would lose.

>>389006521
>Griffith
>Int
>And if this was DnD, Guts would lose

Could you say a few more things to make your post the most wrong post of all time?

>>389006669
It's mathematically impossible for Level 40 Fighter to win against Level 40 Wizard in DnD, straight up impossible.

>Griffith
>not Int

>>389006827
Griffith isn't a wizard

>>389006827
Griffith isn't a wizard though, regardless of his int.

>>389004727
You stupid as fuck you cant even tell their builds.
Griffith = Dex
Gatts = Quality
Zod = Str

>>389006827
Level 40 characters don't exist anymore.

>>389006958
>>389006669
Griffith was shown extensively as a scholar as well as fighter. There's the whole Kama-Sutra scene with Guts and all, and that's not even the only instance.

>>389007269
plus, he's a genius strategist, so I really agree with INT/DEX/CHA for Griffith.

>>389007269
Berserk has magic users in it. Reading books does not make a wizard.

>>389007269
That's cool bro. But Griffith still isn't a Wizard. Fighters (or Cavaliers or even maybe Paladin in Griffith's case) can train intelligence skills.

He is Dex/Int/Cha, though, whereas Guts would be Str/Dex/Con.

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>>389007269
And yet he was never shown using magic once. Griffith was not a magic user.

>>389007446
>>389007431
>>389007417
>thinking this is D&D
>thinking magic is the only application for INT.

are you seriously this dense? first of all, not even in D&D is INT ONLY used for magic, and then, we don't know for sure the source of the magic in Berserk. From the wiki: "Magic is used through manipulation of the spiritual realm through Od, which lays inside spirits and souls." That could very easily be CHA magic, Faith magic, or whatever.

this might just be the most useless and pathetic thread I have ever seen on /v/

>>389007628
>>thinking this is D&D
>Literally opens with 'And if this was DnD, Guts would lose'
Shut the fuck up.

>>389007628
It's Wisdom you ninny.

>>389007628
You stupid motherfucker, this started as a "Gatts and Griffith are DnD classes" discussion.

Your comment is completely irrelevant anyway. No one is arguing that Griffith doesn't have Int, they're arguing that he isn't a Wizard. If you want Cha casting, you're a sorc, but Griffith never uses ANY magic so the point is moot.

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>there are people who say Guts won only because his sword was bigger
People like to forget that Griffith was blocking that same sword effortlessly 3 years before Guts stacked STR and this duel happened.
STR wins.

>>389004727
>Guts isn't DEX STR CHA CON

>anime and tabletop cringe losers together in one place arguing
This is the worst thread to ever be created on /v/

>str is best

If that were the case than every world-class fighter would be a huge juiced up bodybuilder instead of a lean mesomorph which most are.

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Griffith won in the long run though

>>389004727
So who was in the wrong here

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>>389004727

>>389007943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEdG-cwFg4k

>>389006254

Guts has high charisma though. Every girl wants his dick. People see him as a leader. They gravitate towards him.

Guts is strong and very well rounded in the rest of his stats.

>>389008201
Nah. He might have decent or good charisma, but it's not high. Griffith is high charisma.

>>389008201
He's never charismatic though, he's basically a cold weirdo. People are attracted to him because of his inhuman strength and endurance

>>389007939
Griffith for being a closet homosexual and not confessing his feelings to Guts.

>>389007943
but Dex won that fight. he just too stupid to finish the guy off.

>>389008462

This, hubris is what killed him.

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>>389008201
Guts doesn't really have high charisma. He barely speaks. When he does talk, it's very simple. He chooses not to get deep with people he's not comfortable with; there's only been three people he's had really deep, emotional conversations with, and those were Griffith, Casca, and Godo (especially the one before Godo's death). He's had some good talks with Puck and Schierke, but nothing on the level of Casca.
Griffith was openly bombastic in the way he spoke; Guts keeps to himself. That's one of the reasons he's such a beloved character in comparison to other anime protagonists. He doesn't spew every thought or talk about the power of friendship. He just gets the job done, and only those EXTREMELY close to him know what he truly thinks on things.

Best fictional character ever, honestly.

>>389008429
Unironically right.

>>389005942
>t. dex fag
but ranged weapons use dex
so showing that gun>melee just proves "dex>str"

>>389008575

>Guts doesn't really have high charisma. He barely speaks. When he does talk, it's very simple. He chooses not to get deep with people he's not comfortable with; there's only been three people he's had really deep, emotional conversations with, and those were Griffith, Casca, and Godo (especially the one before Godo's death). He's had some good talks with Puck and Schierke, but nothing on the level of Casca.
Griffith was openly bombastic in the way he spoke; Guts keeps to himself. That's one of the reasons he's such a beloved character in comparison to other anime protagonists. He doesn't spew every thought or talk about the power of friendship. He just gets the job done, and only those EXTREMELY close to him know what he truly thinks on things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byronic_hero

>>389008201
If Guts has a 7/10 charisma (which he doesn't, people tend to just admire his strength), then Griffith has a 20/10 charisma. He's a fucking Christ figure. That's his whole thing.

>>389004852
>superior nippon steeru
>folded ten thousand timeru

>>389008872
Just because someone keeps to themselves and doesn't vocalize every thought going through their head doesn't mean they're Byronic.
Guts is definitely a Byronic character, however. I don't think the fact that he rarely speaks is indicative of that, though. Anyone can be shy, but that doesn't make them an anti-hero.

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>>389004727
except anyone wielding the sword is dex by default
you can't angle it to cut without dex

str is for hammers, and that it, even axe would require a lot of dex if stats were counted like in real world not by DnD canons or whatever

>>389004727
More like CHA vs STR

>>389004727
>not being both DEX and STR

why do we never have an INT vs WIS battle
who wins

>>389009428
is there a difference?

>>389009483
book smarts vs street smarts, anon

>>389009483

There isn't. It should really be a question between intuition vs experience

>>389009574

Good books teach the most important lessons. Fuck off nigger.

>>389004727
Because Guts wins right? I haven't seen it.

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>tfw berserk will never ever ever end

>>389009775
Did that anon run over your cat or something?

>>389009848
Guts wins THIS fight against Griffith, but not many others. DEX vs STR results remain inconclusive.

>>389009775
>reading about muhammad ali inventing rope-a-dope will make me an expert at taking a punch!
this is what you sound like

>>389004870
Read Berserk you homo, it has universal appeal.

>>389004870
Speaking as someone who hates anime, Berserk is godlike, and you should read it.

>>389007020
>>389007020

Zod = STR
Skull Knight = DEX
Ganishka = INT

>>389004727
Don't remember the name of the fight but there was some sort of special event where a skinny MMA fighter was fighting this huge fat wrestler and he won by baiting him into getting on the ground for a submission and then just crawling out from underneath and putting him into one instead.

>>389004727
an anime
A FUCKING ANIME

What's next? katana is powerful than longsword?

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>>389009869
Don't say that, you're scaring me

>>389005942
>a sword is more dex than a gun
your next line will be
>I was only pretending to be retarded

>Dex beats Str so hard in D&D it's not even funny

It's just not fair.

>>389004727
Oh hey, my favorite fishing manga

>>389011568
Who the fuck draws this shit?

what does the quality of ones steel have to do with their dex or str stat?

is this the power of shitposters?

>>389011474
>Int beats everything
of course it's not fair

>>389013290
Int is the dump stat.

>>389012846
I do.

>>389004727
Guts won this because he realized the importance of balanced stats rather than a pure STR build.
Griffith was too focused on raising his CHR and hadn't made much improvement on his physical stats, he also had a debuff during the fight that killed a few key rolls for him.

>>389004727
Griffith isn't even DEX, he's fucking CHA

Griffith put pussy on the pedestal and started to skip the gym.

Guts told bitches to step, did leg day and still got his girl in the end.

>>389013350
maybe in the latest edition

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How can STR ever recover?

>>389013545
>still got his girl in the end.
he got cucked anon, don't forget it

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It's easy to have high stats across the board when you house rule the ability to go into negative stats and dump LUCK.

>>389013575
The one that matters, yeah.

>>389004727
Reminder that Berserk is inferior to Blade of the Immortal, Vagabond, Vinland Saga, and Blame.

>>389013721
Hey man, you can play whatever edition you want, WotC isn't going to break into your house and burn your old rulebooks.

>>389013673
>he didn't pick grasses as starting item

>>389013864
I wouldn't put it past them.

>>389013629
>cucked
Back to r/t_d, colonist.

>>389013908
Hey, give the DnD division some credit, they even put up basic rules for 5ed for free.

>>389013864
When discussing something that goes through frequent revision, with nothing else specified, the most recent iteration is assumed.

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>>389004727
The STR build got cucked in the end though

>>389013598
>jump all over the screen swinging wildly and accomplishing nothing
Yeah, that's dex alright.

>>389013673
And pick a horrible background to minmax further.

>>389014000
You would say so, but plenty of people play older versions of DnD.

>>389005781
Pistols and other light ranged weapons are defacto DEX

>>389014006
Griffith got a sudden massive EXP boost and a hideously overpowered prestige class. In addition Guts was stuck outnumbered and without his equipment.
Fucking railroad plot is what that shit was.

>>389013815
I liked Vinland Saga better back when it was about Thorfinn being a moody murderous cunt.

>>389014101
And they're retarded for not specifying that. I'm sure some people play games that are a few major updates behind too.

>>389009090
That's a sabre, not a katana. Also it's set in a fictional European setting.

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>>389004727
damn, I watched this for the first time last year and really like it, but i forgot the story already
fug

>>389014206
I don't think it's a super fair comparison to make, as rather than just "updates" subsequent DnD versions are much closer to video game sequels.

>>389014120
Falchion is also dex.

>>389007761
He got it reforged after the 100-man battle, so it wasn't really the same sword.

>>389014269
Remind yourself by reading the manga.

>>389013379
Erase those human legs on Pepe.
They look out of place

STR is being able to crush a tomato
DEX is being able to catch a tomato
CON is being able to eat a rotten tomato
INT is knowing tomato is a fruit
WIS is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad
CHA is being able to sell a tomato based fruit salad

>>389010383
>Skull Knight = DEX
I'm not seeing it. SK should probably be some sort of spellsword build with a fuckton of stat points spread all over the place. He's basically the logical extreme of Guts' quality build.

>>389014821
So you're saying Str and Dex battles all depend on whether or not you're trying to crush or catch something? In that case, Str always wins.

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Name 2 (two) games that ACTUALLY have strength and dex as a status that are not rpg games

>>389014632
Depends. The slimmer falchions are closer to sabres and are very much DEX weapons, but the types with wide blades look to be used as chopping weapons. Those definitely benefit more from having a STR guy swing them around, hewing through unarmoured peasants.

>>389014975
But in that case DEX gets to taste the local produce while STR just gets sticky fingers.

>>389013815
>>389014172
Vinland saga is one of the most garbage manga I've ever read. It does the whole "Tell you rather than show you" thing. Like when all of a sudden the bitch boi wannabe griffith is loved by all the hardasses because "they see something in his eyes". It's so fucking dumb. I literally saved one of the pages of that manga as an example of the worst single pages I've ever seen.

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>Wanting to watch one attribute fight another
>Not mirror matches

>>389004727
>gets literally cucked in the rematch

>>389006254
Nobody mentions his Constitution. Shit is hacks.

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>>389010383
>>389014901

Zod = STR
Ganishka = INT
Grunbeld = DEF
Raksas = SPD
Irvine = ACC
Locus = DEX
Skull Knight = ?

>>389015421
Accuracy is always a derided stat, moron.

>>389004727
so essentially sell my soul and wear a latex outfit after getting hella fucked up and then I've got gud with dex?

Gotcha.

>>389015345
Yeah his dump stat is int

>>389004870
Dex she rapes his girlfriend too

>>389014821
STR is being able to throw a tomato
DEX is being able to slice a tomato without crushing it
CON is being able to eat a tomato on its own
INT is knowing that vegetable is not used as a botanical term

>>389015582
His dump stat is luck. Guts is of moderate intelligence.

>>389015421
How the fuck does he draw this shit

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>>389015345

>>389004727
Anyone have the 3 manga artists comparison using this scene?

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How can STRfags even compete?

>>389015997
>Brienne actually trying to kill Arya

If only

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>>389015997

>how can STRfags compete

let me post the more accurate one from your gay show.

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>>389015740
He's been doing this since he was 10, he's had a lot of practice.

>>389016478
That was when she was still low level

>>389016478
That's CON.

>>389015997
If Brienne had a helmet on Arya would be fucked

>>389016601
Yes because somehow the same sword would now penetrate his armor even after all her training.

She goes for the throat and that's the only way she wins.

>>389014049
>36-1 record in the ring
>accomplishing nothing

>>389016478
Why didn't she go for his giant bulbous head?

>>389014049
getting points all of the day, bro. boxing is more than just KOs

>>389016478
How the fuck is that armor so strong? Isnt it just leather?

>>389014120
Pistol is a PER weapon you idiot.

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>>389016875

>imblying

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>>389016947

turn your brain off

>>389016875
Winning by points is for pussies. They should keep fighting until a KO/TKO.

>>389004727
Guts is max STR, DEX, and WIS

>>389017025
Explain.

>>389017049
>>389017129
typical meatheads, no appreciation for the art of boxing, you just want a brawl.

>>389016947
the armor may not be made of steel but them abs sure are

>>389017247
>the art of boxing

Boxing isn't a martial art.

>>389008201
Guts is far from charismatic and is rather standoffiish in general. However, he is so impossibly strong compared to regular humans that it forces others to recognize his strength and skill. In a world of chaos and death you'll usually be drawn to the guy who's taking out the horrors regardless of his charisma.

>>389017287
Then what is it?

>>389017378
A sport.

>>389017378
a american sport

>>389008575
>Best fictional character ever, honestly.

t. never read a book in my entire life

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>>389017378
THE SWEET SCIENCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUfShdvoVCM

>>389017378
a game

>>389017331
The real master of footwork there is the ref.

>>389015740
He doesn't

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>>389015672
this

dex fucks his gal even though he loses fight and she likes it

>>389017581
Also, this ends the str vs dex argument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27M5KWI_q50

>>389017378

Significantly better than most martial arts.

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>>389004727
So did he finally get out of the boat?

>>389016947
>
foils are not estocs, estocs were rigid enough to pierce armor but were still piercing blades, foils often more then not will bend against anything harder then leather as they were simply used as the dueling tools of nobility, essentially swords got thinner and lighter and became more of a sign of wealth and status, yet that bleeds over into fantasy. No one would take that blade into a battle against armored enemies, sure if you stick em in the neck, aim for the armpits or back of the knees you'll deal damage, but besides the neck those are usually non vital points and considering it would only be a small hole maybe an inch to three deep (considering youd never have an angle or moment to go deeper on those points) your odds are slim.

>>389013629
Guts didn't get cucked, his girl got raped. What's more Guts had the correct response to this; he got so fucking mad that his rage empowers him and allows him to take out inhuman abominations. Guts is literally the opposite of a cuck.

>>389013598
>Prime Naseem
>DEX
He was a quality build

>>389017930

so what is he a fucking weaboo doom guy?
Sounds gay

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>>389017930
Sure, buddy, he's the best

>>389017930
>Implying Casca didn't enjoy it
He's a cuck my man. She'll probably run straight back to Griffith's big demon cock if they ever end up fixing her.

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>>389018168
No.
Also, Fuck you

>>389018025
He's not some emo faggot, he actually gets shit done and violently styles on demons Devil May Cry style, making them question if Guts is even a fucking human to begin with. Making nightmares fear you is some next level shit.

>>389018168
It's a fact that women involuntarily orgasm during rape in many cases, doesn't at all mean they're enjoying. It'd be the same as if some ugly fat bitch tied you down and started sucking you off. Unless you have a mind of steel you'd likely bust.

>>389015276
Man Kuuga is the best kamen rider

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>>389018326
Women enjoy being raped. That's why rape fantasy is so prevalent among women. Fendom is basically non existent for men and mostly cater to a special niche of women.

Gutt is literally the biggest cuckhold in anime history. He beta orbit Casca after she is pump and dump by Griffith.

Pic related is what he should have done

>>389018576
I wish we had more final battle that were just two dudes continuously punching the shit out of each other until one dies instead of just the hero landing a finisher/rider kick on the final boss like every other boss before

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Guts is obviously quality.

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STR always win in the end. No amount of DEX will save you from this

>>389018650
Caska's body may have been enjoying it outside of her own will, however mentally it was such a horrific experience that it literally shattered her mind and turned her into a potato. A woman who's actually enjoying it the way you're implying doesn't turn into a braindead vegetable as a result of the ordeal anon. Guts is a true man who sticks by his waifu even after she gets horribly defiled outside of her own will. His journey to restore her mind and body is almost at its end and they'll be a lovely couple once again.

>>389017203
Perception
It's often a separate stat in games

>>389018857
>DEX saving throw to avoid half damage
>Evasion to avoid all damage

LOL

>>389018857
What's more you could always become powerful enough to just nuke the entire goddamned area, completely eliminating all escape options from the dexfag.

>>389018943
There is no proof that Casca hate it. Pleasure of the flesh can break mind like trauma does. And even if it is not, nothing will ever change the fact that Casca is a cum dump for Griffith. No amount of love can change it, ever

>>389018992
Name five (5) games that have both dexterity and perception as core stats.

>>389017581
Whoa, so dex really does beat str.

>>389019209
Again, what her body enjoys outside of her own will is irrelevant, the human body reacts to sensations as a matter of nature. It's about what's in the heart and mind, and we know for a fact that what Griffith did to Caska was so horrifying that it scarred and utterly destroyed her emotionally and mentally, regressing her brain into that of a child. Caska's heart still belongs to Guts, and all will be well once her mind and body are restored.

>>389019389
You do know that semen DNA still linger in a women's body and even through childbirth. Even if Casca is healed right now, Gutt's child will always be part Griffith. He will always raise his wife's son

>>389019343
may was both str and dex. mcmeme had no power

>>389019471
Once Guts eliminates Griffith he'll knock up Caska, and his DNA will consume her fully. Guts child with Caksa will 100% be his own. I'm sorry anon, but you'll have to get your NTR fix elsewhere.

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>>389019008
>Get one shot by any damage at all
>Running around dealing no damage
How can DEXfags be so delusional?

>>389019643
>DNA will consume her fully
What does this even mean? Not to mention that Griffith is immortal as God Hand, eliminating his DNA from Caska body is nigh impossible. There is a reason why nearly all culture value virginity. You can't deny science with head cannon, anon.

>>389019980
>You can't deny science
I can't, but Guts can and will. He's certainly done more impossible things. Claiming the body of his waifu as his and his alone isn't any different. Guts will become a godslayer, and finish the deed with his seed in Caska. All shall be well within the cosmos once more.

>>389008201
Guts has wisdom and inner strength that draw people to him due to his struggle, but he's far from charismatic. Griffith has a natural charisma that makes him a born leader.

>>389019730
DEX and health don't scale inversely.

>>389020734
DEX build usually has no hp at all. It is either evasion, attack speed or armor. DEX build get one shot everything they can't dodge

>>389020901
You have no idea what you're talking about. STR doesn't give health.

>>389006254
>Griffith gets a kingdom, murders all of Guts friends and rapes his gf
Griffith won

>>389009205
It depends entirely on how damage is calculated and whether or not %mitigation abilities are available

>>389021041
No, but it adds evasion modifiers, you mongoloid. STR needs to also build CON, more often than not, to be able to utilize any advantage STR gives you, where as DEX's damage stat is also a defensive stat so it can be pushed further.

>>389013598
Why are boxers such colossal fuckbois?

>>389021410
If a STR build has enough resources to pump CON as well as STR, why can't DEX do the same?

>>389004727
>have 100 skillpoints
>put 25 of them in HP the rest into other things - mainly in DEX = Dex
>put 25 of them in HP the rest into other things - mainly in STR = STR
STR has less HP
?????

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>DEX vs. STR
the answer is always both, like Guts or pic related

>>389007020
>Gatts
You mean Gattsu?

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>>389021593

>>389004727
When you say dump stat does that mean that that is the stat you ignore? Or does it mean that you spend the rest of your points into it?

>>389022082
The former.

>>389016947
i don't know what exactly he's wearing but it looks like the type of thing that's made of metal plates on the inside

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*blocks your path*

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>>389013598
Itagaki?

>>389015672
>>389017689
Didn't STR already fuck the girl before? So DEX is just getting sloppy seconds

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>>389004727
STR vs DEX

>>389018576
>Gaim is the best kamen rider*
FTFY

>>389016723
>what is ki endowed sword

>>389021668
>woman
>str

>>389007750
>Gatts

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>>389022361
Yeah, but Dex fucked her so hard that she was permanently mind broken.

>>389018650
This is why you have few friends, edgelord

>>389015997
that is some cringeworthy choreography

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>>389022664

>>389008462
He didnt invest enough points in LUK

>>389022664
Strong enough to break the helmet of a living legend from the dark ages in a 1v1 when she was only eighteen and being held back by conflicted emotions.
said legend was also a woman though

>>389004935
that's Bloodtinge vs Dex you silly goose

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DEX + STR vs WIS + CHA

>>389006254
Based quality build wins again.

Dex always beats str in fights where Dex strikes first by surprise, or the fight is a straight up one where both opponents are ready. Str only wins when it gets the first hit by surprise. That's why I think dex is better. It's just more proficient.

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>>389010586
There's also this example.

>>389015421

You can see how he splurged on the giant whale with legs and progressively lost interest/creativity/time as you get further to the right. What the fuck is that heat-wearing thing with the eye stalk supposed to be

>>389023085
why the fuck would Maul block like that smfh the writers killed him

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>>389023485
It wasn't a block, m8.
It was pure poetry.

>>389022347
Fun fact, Bryan Hawk from Ippo was based on that dude.
His name is Naseem Hamed.

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>>389023543

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>>389007379

>>389023543

This is what happens when you have people on staff that are fans of the shit they are creating. I could care less about 90% of star wars and that still resonated.

NEXT CHAPTER WHEN

>>389024280
Miura is going to die before then

>>389023982

I'm glad it ended like that because maul was an immortal cockroach that kept being re-used as a villain so he had to get 'tribute-killed' quickly

>>389023293
OUT
FUCKING
SKILLED

Why is the Casca rape the only thing about this series anyone ever talks about?

>>389024649
Because it's big. It's really, really big.

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>>389025170

>>389024649
It's a shit series with the art being the only thing it has going for it, that's why. There'd be less interest in it if Miura taking forever to update the story wasn't such a big meme.

>>389018943
Let me start by saying that Casca ALWAYS wanted Griffith, it's stated EXPLICITLY in manga. Despite LARPing as a man, Casca is still a woman, her clock is ticking and the womanhood calls, so after seeing that Griffith is a lost cause and she will never be able to get along with him, she settled for Guts.
But then Eclipse happens, and her wish is finally granted. In fact, Griffith was so fucking good, she literally had a stroke and became retarded.

>>389025330
>being this much of a cuck enthusiast
Anon, Caska is reserved for Guts and is waiting to be healed, period. Griffith is going to get thoroughly BTFO and Guts will live happily ever after with Caska. Take your NTR fantasies elsewhere.

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>>389004727
>anime
>not reading the manga
LOL.

>>389015276
Kuuga was the shit

>>389009869
That's good, keeps me from killing myself once it's done and I have nothing left

>>389015672
>>389017689
>>389022718
Liars. He's a caster at that point.

>>389025426
>NTR fantasies
Not into it, but it's so damn obvious Casca enjoyed it.

>>389025647
He may be a caster, but his penis has the Dex of the most dickish rogue you can think of.

>>389025708
Only NTR fags or actual cucks dwell on Caska enjoying getting raped and mind broken by Griffith. Every other sane, sexually healthy person is rooting on Guts and Caska.

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>>389004727
Here's what actually happens in a rapier vs longsword fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r7VWIQCHvM

>>389022980
fuck bloodtinge

>>389025716
That was a demon dick, not his original dick.

>>389025790
Guts isn't using a longsword, he's using a huge sword that was probably intended for cavalry or something.

>>389017713
yeah, nah

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Guts is a nice guy.

>>389025765
What kind of ass-backwards logic is this? In order for it to be NTR, you have to actually care about Casca, as well as self-insert as Guts, but who the fuck does this?

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>>389026017
His sword is just a huge slab of iron. It's probably meant for giants or something, because greatswords for humans are much more balanced than what Guts has.

>>389025790
Griffith is wielding a sabre, and Guts is wielding a fucking zweihander. Also:
>HEMA
>implying real sword fights always follow the book
Lmao

>>389026195
He wasn't using that in the fight against Griffith though. And it's called the dragonslayer for a reason m8

>>389018650
lets put this into perspective... the ugliest person you ever encountered, has tied you up and starts licking your dick

you might not like them, you might not like them licking your dick either, but your dick likes being licked so it stands to attention
they can suck you off until you cum and you can hate it the whole time
what your body is programmed to do and what your mind is programmed to enjoy are two different things
the only only difference here is accepting which one is true, if you were blindfolded and this ugly shit starts sucking your dick, you wouldn't know who was doing it, but you would still like having your dick sucked
cumming will always feel good, whether you want it to or not

it's just the way the body works and you can't spin this cuck shit with shit logic like yours

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>>389026953
>Griffith
>Ugliest person you ever encountered

>>389026953
>you might not like them licking your dick either, but your dick likes being licked so it stands to attention
Bull-fucking-shit. If the ugliest person alive tied me up, there's no way in hell my dick would get up even after stimulation, let alone be able to orgasm. Also, >>389027775

In other words, your analogy should've been:
>imagine being friends with 11/10 oneitis back in high school who ignored all of your advances
>school is over, you move on with your life and try to forget her
>you even start dating some cute 8/10 chick
>the suddenly one day you wake up in some piss alley and see your oneitis back from high school LITERALLY BEGGING FOR COCK
Don't fucking tell me you wouldn't enjoy it.

>>389028486
>oneitis
I don't know this feeling. In any case though, if I'm already dating someone, it's a massive dick move to just fuck someone else because I had feelings for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poG4sKvu8ew

This fight proves that dex > str

Trunks couldn't even touch Cell by the end of the fight

>>389025790
I know you people are talking about an anime but rapiers were used mostly as a secondary weapon or for sport. Those that used them for battle has a rapier but it is by name only as they used a thicker one which is literally just a normal sword or something that should be called something else.

>>389028879
Yeah, but imagine dating someone else, because you are trying to cope -- not because you genuinely love that person.
It's kind of in the same vein as single dads who want to fuck their daughters, so they end up dating and fucking women who looks similar.

>>389019471
>semen DNA still linger in a women's body and even through childbirth
Yeah, sperm last for a while and immature gametes can last surprisingly long as they are held within the reproductive tract to mature. But you're just a bit off if you think they survive that long. Pro tip: when you screw a pregnant girl, you don't actually poke the fetus in the head.

>>389029000
That was just level 5 vs level 10

>>389028486
Nerve stimulation is nerve stimulation anon. If it occurs at a high enough frequency with enough nerves being stimulated in an erogenous zone, it would happen. Other competing physical stimuli (say lesions that cause pain being touched at the same time) may overwhelm it if they're sufficient, but how attractive she is would determine how long it takes you to nut, not whether you nut or not.

>>389030248
>Yeah, but imagine dating someone else, because you are trying to cope -- not because you genuinely love that person.
Then clearly I'm not in a state to be dating in the first place.
>It's kind of in the same vein as single dads who want to fuck their daughters, so they end up dating and fucking women who looks similar.
I think you're binging on incest porn a bit much, m8.

>>389030575
Trunks was actually stronger than Cell though, as in had more raw power. He was just too slow. Vegeta and Goku had the right idea, and only with SS2 you really could have both the raw strength and speed.

>>389030850
>Trunks was actually stronger than Cell though, as in had more raw power.
He wasn't though, because Cell was perfectly capable of it to, as he demonstrated. Cell's stats were just too high.

>>389030719
I've just tried vigorously stroking my completely flaccid cock while preventing any sort of lewd thought from occurring.
While I did feel a sensation every now and then, I could suppress it with the power of will alone. I didn't get hard.
And this is coming from someone who can arouse himself to the point of cumming hands free.
tl;dr physical stimulation of erogenous zones isn't enough

>>389022846
this is why people shit on anime
skeltal non muscular shit wielding weapons bulky fuckers cant even lift or loli shooting a fucking rpg or using heavy machine gun w/h recoil

>>389004727
>Beserk
>Picking plot armor dude bro man
Opinion discarded, might as well as posted one punch meme

>>389030850
No he wasn't. Cell was holding back until Gohan started kicking his ass, and everyone, Trunks included, realized they were all out of his league in terms of pure power.

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>>389004852
Man these movies are fucking shit.
The new anime is even worse too somehow.

>>389004727
Except Guts has maxed out STR and DEX.
It's more like TEC and CHA vs STR and DEX.

>>389031251
one punch meme is both STR and DEX combined though.

>>389004852
>sword shown to easily cleave through people in full armor
>griphon blocks it with a tiny sword
seems legit

>>389031585
Just like guts

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>>389031115
>Chad Thunderstrength

>>389021138
>The series will end with Guts cucking Griffith out of absolutely everything he's ever earned, built, or desired

>>389031684
>not making armour entirely out of swords

>>389022962
thats nice anime is cool i like people with no muscles at all being super strong like in my comic books which are also not terrible :)))))))))))

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>>389031807
what stat is this though

>>389031956
it lowers MND

>>389031956
charisma, since guts was asking for it
also wil for guts to get over it instead of literally getting fucked senseless like the drama whore that is caska. ffs guts was a kid when he got raped.

>>389031956
VIT

some fuccbois would say Lck cause they wish they were guts in that scenario

>>389008575
>Guts doesn't really have high charisma
>Charisma represents confidence, leadership, force of personality
>Guts literally leads armies, and recruits exceptional individuals simply because he's such a driven person

Frankly, Guts is either really high level or rolled really fucking high on stats. His Int is his lowest, not because he's stupid, but because he's simply not particularly book-learned. His Wisdom is pretty fuckin' high.

>>389009205
in this case armstrong probably win since we can also be a ranged filth if he wants.

>>389009869
Who cares, it went to shit after conviction anyways.

>>389017737
Why haven't you been reading Berserk Anon?
Yes he has

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Ok, so here's a thought.
What if Miura dies but he still had the entire script or whatever for the rest of the series.

Who would you choose to draw it?

>>389032346
anyone willing to scrap Isidro entirely

>>389017689
>dex fucks his gal
He only fucks her after a hundred demons, all STR, had their way with her first.

>>389032346
Literally no one. Miura's detail I'm his art is mind boggling.

>>389017737
Only to get assaulted by literal dicks.

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Am I the only one who likes Schierke?
She actually serves a purpose unlike most of the party and it's neat how she sort of activates Guts's father instinct a little.

>>389022846
holy shit THE QUALITY.

>>389031956
thats STR

>>389032503
No, Schierke was a nail in the coffin of Berserk.

>>389032346
Togashi

That's more of DEX vs QUALITY though

>>389032629
But why though?
Every time I ask people why they hate her they just use the same old "muh lolicon pandering" instead of anything concrete.

>>389032346
Berserk has been shit for close to a decade now, just put him out of his misery and burn whatever work's at his home.

>>389032503
There are objectively only three useful members in the party, Schrike, Serpico, and Guts himself. Schrike is hella cute , has helpful powers, and her knowledge of all things magical helps.
Serpico is a master swordsman, and his personality helps keep Guys (and the fucking BDSM bitch he's attached to) in check.

And Guts is, well, he's Guts.

>>389032629
Farnese is literally the most useless character in the series. If she had never joined the group nothing would change. She's just garbage through and through and I'd take Schierke any fucking day.

>griphon
im hacking into your phone right now

>>389032629
Guts needs the armor to fight the godhands and lolimage acts as his sanity's anchor so he's not consumed by it. She's necessary

Is this the Jojo thread?

>>389010094
>anime has universal appeal.
Yea, naw.

>>389010094
>>389010283
Is Berserk actually good or is it just a meme like Jojo?

Because Jojo was hyped to hell and back but parts 1-3 are mediocre and underwhelming.

>>389010876
Is this a motherfucking Jojo reference?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMErMwKCP0w

STR unless you meet a man with high charisma and persuasion.

>>389009483
>>389009663
Int is problem solving skill
Wisdom is knowledge
They are separate but completely useless without each other

>>389032686
Well, it has less to do with a character itself and more with the fact that her appearance marks the point where the story, along with Guts' character development, took a wrong turn.

>>389033047
the anime is poorly made shite. give the manga a go and see if youre into it

>>389015997
>STR vs DEX
>Parrying
thats not how it works senpai

>>389033206
Doc Brown is the perfect example of high-INT low-WIS. He's fucking brilliant, yeah, but he makes some really fucking retarded decisions.

>>389022846
God I fucking hate anime

>>389031115
That has to be the only impressive play I've seen the jags pull off since the uniform change.
It helps ease the suffering I feel daily a little, but can't fix how shit we play.

>>389017713
>Significantly better than most martial arts.
>can use its lower body to attack
>have the heavily overcompensate the lack of skill with muscle
most boxers are just damage sponges

>>389007628
>argument for INT was that a lvl40 fighter cant beat a lvl40 wizard

but griffithffith doesnt have magic so the int helps none in combat

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the true STR vs DEX

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>tried reading Berserk once
>stopped because Guts was way too edgy

>>389015028
>name two games that have stats, which are a feature of RPGs
>but they cant be RPGs

wut

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what about STR+DEF

>>389033436
iirc there are ways to add your int mod to attacks instead of dex. Might be wrong, but I could see a custom class made for it at least with DM discretion. That said, I think Griffith would have made a DM bribe at some point, or the DM favors him. Guts gets the shit end of the stick pretty frequently early on, but could just be an "OW THE EDGE" player.

>>389033689
the guy been tru a lot of shit, let him wind out his suffering

>>389015028
Your question is inherently flawed, because the hallmark of a videogame RPG is stats since engineering an entire roleplaying experience is unfeasible for now.

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>>389026195
>Sword literally named "Dragonslayer"
>"It's probably meant for giants or something"

yeah that 's probably right

>>389034219
To be wielded by giants ya dumb fuck.

>>389032404
>scrapping isidro

literally guts has to pass his swordsmanship on to SOMEONE, and isidro is the only one who wants to learn from guts

not that hes going to learn guts' style anyway since he is clearly going the dual-wield path but still, gotta learn the battle instinct

>>389033047
well... it's amazing but.. just read the manga, dont even bother with the anime scene, it's a fucking mess

>>389032253
Why did it go to shit after conviction?

>>389034325
it's not meant to be wielded by -anyone- tard, Godo literally made the sword as a joke

you'd know that if you weren't a secondary

>>389004727
in 50 years when Guts kills Griffith you'll wish you hadn't posted this

>>389034548
I know that. Don't try to deflect your lack of reading comprehension.

>>389034624
>my lack of specification is someone else's lack of reading comprehension because reasons

English is a tricky thing, ESL-kun, remember that people cant read your mind if you dont specify

>For giants

literally can imply that the sword would either be for slaying giants or to be wielded by them, without context, which was the case

>>389018650
Yes anon, that's why women experience sharp drops in life expectancy after being raped--because they enjoy it so much.

>>389034219
>>389026195
Guts steps out after his quarry and, raising the incredibly heavy, oversized Dragonslayer over his head, swings downwards once more, cutting the Apostle completely in half vertically.

Guts finds the Dragonslayer much more suited to his quest than the previous, more fragile sword. Godo did not recommend it purely based on the fact that he believed no man could effectively wield it. Erica clings to Rickert, frightened by the image of the savage Guts.

Later, the time comes for Guts to depart, and Rickert, Godo and Erica see him off. Rickert makes one last attempt to convince Guts to stay with Casca, to whom Guts hasn't even said goodbye. Guts declines, turns, and leaves to embark on his hate-driven hunt for the Apostles in hopes they will lead him to the God Hand and Griffith.

>>389031481
what's wrong with them

>>389034787
Try reading the reply chain, retard.

>Berserk will never get a properly decently animated non-3D bullshit janky ass animated series
>We'll never see a conclusion to the story

Have they even released any more issues since last year?

>>389035023
i did, you aren't somehow less of an illiterate beaner just because you were having a discussion with someone else

>>389035069
They released some stuff on Winter/Spring I think and announced hiatus until autumn or winter, don't remember. But they are already remembering the eclipse and curing caska.

>>389035074
>he's using a huge sword that was probably intended for cavalry

Guts often served in the cavalry, so we know from this that we're discussing who is meant to wield what. The very next reply is:

>It's probably meant for giants or something

Obviously continues the same line of thought of who wields what.

Reading comprehension is easy. You have no excuse.

>>389004727
>Griffith later rapes Guts' love in front of him
He respec'd into WIS and MAG

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>>389032135
>get raped once
>turn into a retarded vegetable

casca confirmed shit-tier waifu

>>389035272
>Obviously continues the same line of thought

it does not, just because you made an offhand comment that he was cavlalry. does not imply at all that you were talking about a wielder of the sword, rather than what it is used to slay

Why are all STRfags also Berserkfags?
Why do Berserkfags constantly whine about not having the perfect game?
Why do Berserkfags need Berserk references in everything?
Why would anyone think Casca is a good character?

>>389035382
Yes it does. Learn how English and conversations work.