Thoughts on Steins;Gate?

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Love the original VN 0 was kind of disappointing but it gave us Maho so it's not that bad

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S;G is one of my favorite stories ever. S;G0 is a bunch of wasted potential, with some nice moments and atmosphere that redeem it a bit

Am I the only one that likes 0 more than the first one?

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R8

Is the original worth $7 (sales on PSN)?

So, I actually know moonrunes. Should I bother reading Chaos;Head NOAH before PQube's Chaos;Child release?

>>389005005
yeah it's great

>>389005768
I honestly don't know anything about the game/story aside from it beinga VN and so many people praising it so that's why I asked. Been awhile since I played/read a VN and kind of have the itch to do so after playing some heavy action games lately. Suppose I'll give it a go.

Ruka packs a monster cock and I wouldn't have it any other way

>>389006006
the anime was good

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>>389006405
the vn is better tho

>>389006006
Close this thread and play it. It's best to know nothing about it before playing.

It's just cheap waifu-bait dressed up with just enough pseudo-scientific to trick brainless anime consumers into thinking they're watching something clever, enabling them to defend it by insisting that all detractors JUST DON'T GET IT OK.

It's a mess of poor directing and hamfisted characterization. It's the anime equivalent of donnie darko.

>>389003306
never played the vn but holy shit why is the anime so fucking overrated people treat that shit like the second coming of christ

>>389006718

its the doctor who of anime. every girl I have known who likes/watches anime their favorite is usually Steins Gate (without reading the VN) don't ask I don't fucking know

>>389006626
is this some kind of pasta

Insane amount of plotholes.

>>389006405
Definitely among the best VN adaptations, if not the best. I'd still definitely recommend the VN over it though. The little routes near the end aren't handled perfectly, but the huge length increase lets them really drive home all the shit that happens around the middle.

>>389006805
>>389006718
>>389006626
Here's your (You), now fuck off faggot

>>389006860
>>389006917
Are you triggered?

>>389006951
well not really

>>389003306
pretty dam good

>>389006626
It's literally nothing like Donnie Darko. The story is cut and dry. It's not a pretentious, garbage wankfest like that movie. You seriously must know nothing about S;G

>>389003306
The story is kind of stupid and doesn't make any sense in the end, I only watched the anime though.

>RUAH HAHAHAHAHA
>some minor plot development begins
>plot development derailed for trivial moment of emotional awkwardness from character B
>character A spirals off into longwinded internal monologue over awkward moment
>character B apologies... awkwardly
>character A apologises for character B apologising
>character B apologises for character A apologising
>repeat for roughly 4 minutes of screen time
>3 episodes later minor plot element begins moving along
>at least 1700 hours of phone close ups
>isn't early 2000s culture so special!!?
>obvious suspicious cues from other characters that fly over everyone's head sprinkled here and there
>TUTURU

>watched the cartoon
>didn't realize it was a game

haha oops. Oh well guess I won't be playing this one

>>389005037
if you know moonrunes why would you buy the pqube release?

It was great

/v/-kun just likes to be tsundere about the things they like. VN is better than anime. Bad ends are quality. True end is amazing. Fucking loved it

>in lukako end they're not killed by rounders for some reason
>in faris end not inventing time machine causes only a minuscule deviation
>daughter of the store owner hates the protagonist for no reason and returns back to time for no reason, while having an access to time machine across decades of its existence with no explanation
>store owner searches for IBM despite being aware that it will result in his death
>SERN sends Mayushi to past despite that there's only a 10% chance of finding her jelly body to threaten protag
>deleting a recording of an email in SERN database somehow deletes the email from existence across all time
>rounders and viral attackers have hundreds of goons in one city for plot's sake. rounders are being recruited by spam email

I would write more but my memory is fuzzy.

>dad walks in

>>389007747
Nah, it was bad and you're damage controlling it.

>>389004634
Yes.

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>>389007538
>episodes

>>389007812
>daughter of store owner hates protagonist

Okabe is creepy as shit. Kids don't like creepy men. Also she hates him in that one timeline because she thinks it's his fault her dad died and she carries that hatred into adulthood, tortures/kills Okabe, steals his time machine, jumps back tons and tons of times (2 day jump limit) to childhood and fucking goes apeshit. Just to refresh your memory

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>>389007875
Oh /v/-kun, stop being so tsun-tsun and show your dere-dere side

>someone not dying is a massive, universe altering shift
>completely redefining the geography and history of an entire region is not

>>389007812
A good amount of those are wrong, and the rest are wisely cut from the anime

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>>389006405
>the anime was good

>>389008161
>Also she hates him in that one timeline because she thinks it's his fault her dad died and she carries that hatred into adulthood, tortures/kills Okabe, steals his time machine, jumps back tons and tons of times (2 day jump limit) to childhood and fucking goes apeshit.
This is exactly what I was talking about, nigger. Her dad has died because of SERN, yet she hates Okabe for no reason, she uses time machine despite that it was supposed to be captured by SERN and she jumps to the past for no reason. On top of that, she hasn't aged at all, despite jumping from the future.
She is also aware how multiple timelines work, knowing that killing Okabe at the time is impossible.

>>389006405
No it wasn't.

>>389008354
>wrong
Nice argument, chucklefuck.

>>389008464
>On top of that, she hasn't aged at all, despite jumping from the future.
Scratch that, I forgot that his time machine only transfers the mind. Rest is valid though.

>>389008464
She was a Rounder or similar SERN operative in the future and personally killed Okabe, holding him responsible for her father's death after having seen it happen.
This was all explained if you paid any goddamn attention to the VN.

>>389008537
I don't have to argue, you said yourself you don't even remember it well. You have some incorrect statements in there

>>389006598
Okay but just one more question: does it get graphic/bloody? I can't take that kind of thing...

>>389003306
Wait that meme trap is from steins gate? guess im never going to watch that now

>>389008661
SERN made her dad commit suicide and yet she works for SERN. Makes perfect sense, yeah.

>>389008674
I'm still waiting for you to point out those incorrect statements, clown.

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>so many memes and references that you have to add a glossary for them

it's just Reddit: japan edition

>>389008813
I don't know what you are talking about the character from that image is a regular girl

>>389006718
This. Why the fuck do people get so endeared to characters just because they can make some funny memes. This characterization is fucking marvel tier shit.

>look at how much character growth I've had over the course of the story! El Psy Congroo :^)

>Steins;Gate threads are doomed to be forever ruined by secondaries that watched the leddit dub, trapfags and epic memers
It's a real shame.

>>389008963
Only secondaries like Stains;Gay, so it's not like you have a lot of choice.

>>389008852
I think you should kill yourself pham

>you need to complete the game 6 times to get a true ending
God damn, man.

>>389008841
For one, you somehow failed to understand that acting on knowledge obtained from the future and deleting the text from SERN's database stopped them from detecting it and hunting down the lab members, and thus, WW3 never started and Suzuha never came back in time, so the worldline was altered

>>389009278
The original? You only need to complete it once. Zero? I think there's two routes you need to get through before the true ending unlocks. Which is a fucking slog and a terrible idea, a lot like most of Zero.

>>389008852
>put on a lab coat and beige pants
>I'm cosplaying as an anime character now
Everything about this show is reddit tier crap. And people actually call this show a classic. I'm honestly curious if 10 years from now whether people will still think Kurisu spewing horrifically out of date memes is funny.

>>389009405
>show
this is not an anime board anon you can't do that

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>>389008963
>tfw to dumb for Steins:Gate
I watched it and didn't understand. Why does the other Okabe have to go through the 3 weeks of suffering if they changed the timeline? Why are they allowed to change important shit in the timeline like the mental Oopa but then have to leave Kisuru's "death" the same?

>>389009351
Nigger, WW3 starts AFTER they delete the email and Suzuha goes back in time irregardless. Maybe you should play the game first?

>>389009405
It's almost been 10 years from its release, and it's got a new game and new anime adaptation

>>389009509
Because it came down to what was observed and what was not. You run into issues with causality if you start fucking with things that Okabe has explicit memory of, which will just invoke the universe to sort itself out.
Think the first time that Okabe went back. He tried to directly prevent the stabbing, which just caused the event to play out again via another means. The second time he preserved the elements he'd observed the first time (Kurisu on the floor, non-responsive and in a pool of blood) which meant that it didn't mess with history. The first Okabe still had to see that, leave and send the text that first changed the timeline.
Does that help at all?

>>389009703
>unable to understand something simple
>says irregardless
yes, WW3 still starts, but not due to the capture of the lab members and the creation of the time machine by them. And your original complaint was that it "deleted all record of the text through time", so you're clearly very lost as to the effect that deletion had

>>389009986
WW3 is not related to Okabe and his time machine at all.
It started because Nakabashi has killed Kurisu, stole her thesis and run away to Russia.

Play the game, secondary.

when does the anime get good

>>389009746
I was meaning another 10 years beyond that to bring its age into NGE territory. But then it's not like most people that see S;G go to 2ch anyways. The show implying that what Kurisu says is supposed to be funny is probably enough for them since that's how dumb memes are supposed to work.

Steins;gate is best VN/anime. I enjoyed Zero and was sad it ended, and it's probably the end of the entire story.
Good luck finding plot holes. Also motivated me to get back into learning piano.

>>389010458
when you start the vn instead

I think it's telling that the majority of people shitposting in this thread are talking about the show, rather than the VN. I'd hazard a guess that most of them watched either the dub or the official subs as well, then wonder why it's 'reddit'.

>>389010556
you misunderstand, i have already played the VN. i am watching the anime afterwards and it is not good. but other people have assured me that it is good. is there a point where it becomes good?

>>389010351
>WW3 is not related to Okabe and his time machine at all.
>It started because Nakabashi has killed Kurisu, stole her thesis and run away to Russia.
>Play the game, secondary.
not in the timeline where the e-mail exists, idiot. That's what we're talking about. That's the plotpoint you can't seem to wrap your head around. Try to keep up.

>>389010676
There is no WW3 in email timeline, nigger.

>>389010484
In the VN they're used mainly just to illustrate the types of people that the main cast are, the individual memes aren't actually super important. I don't think it's much of an issue. Remember, it's already seven years old.

>>389008720
no

>>389008720
Not really, but it will completely mentally wreck you.

>>389010779
Ah, you're right, wrong term. I always lump in the resistance/SERN dystopia with WW3. My mistake

>>389010484
The contemporary internet culture references are not important parts of the dialogue. If you miss the humor, you still get the impression that they're nerds who are in over their heads. The rest of the story will age fine too. Not sure why you think the memes are the appeal, but you're wrong, and I expect you to admit that in 10 years

>>389011393
Because most people with something against the VN act as if it's literally nothing but memes, so it's the focus of their arguments.

So why were there so many cases of people possessing Reading Steiner in 0?

More importantly, what caused the worldline change when Okabe was a child?

>>389012475
>worldline change when Okabe was a child?
That was Y2K.
>So why were there so many cases of people possessing Reading Steiner in 0?
Because everybody has it to some extent. People that watched the anime tend to get this one confused since it explicitly reverses Okabe's realization that everybody has a degree of it in the true ending, for some fucking reason.
As for why it's so strong? I don't think they ever give a decent reason.

>>389011393
I wouldn't be surprised if S;G is still well liked in 10 years but it won't be because it's a well written story.

Steins;Gate 0 is wasted potential. Really wasted potential.

>>389012858
Explain how it isn't one, now that you've shifted the goalposts.

>>389012936
I really wish the light novel was translated. The manga seemed good and it was apparently following the LN.

>>389012936
Yeah it's a shame they had some interesting things going on but it ended up being really disappointing

>>389012936
0 felt like a desperate attempt to get people to care about the wider sci;adv setting while doing nothing to actually build on S;G.

>>389012706
>As for why it's so strong? I don't think they ever give a decent reason.
It was implied it had to do with Okabe surviving whatever illness he had as a child.

Chaos;Child western release date when

>>389013376
I was meaning the other people's. Nobody in the base VN shows too much in the way of symptoms other than Luka remembering the pager number, Mayuri having dreams of some of her deaths and Kurisu right at the end responding to a phrase and situation that yielded an extreme emotional response.
In 0, people with fairly precise recollections of events are seemingly everywhere.

>>389013513
Are you me? I was about to post something just like that.

>>389003306
Why does the title have a semicolon in it? Why not "Stein's Gate?"

>>389013513
>>389013576
Ah, in that case all I recall is that everybody has it to some extent, it just requires a significant emotional trigger of some kind. It wasn't explained beyond that.

>>389013612
Brand;Recognition

>>389013612
because it's stylish

>>389013612
Looks;Cool

i sure wish someone less cancerous than pqube had picked up sciadv

>>389013612
To link it to the other Science Adventure games, like Chaos;Head and Robotics;Notes.

>>389013723
Would JAST have been any better?

>>389013612
Franchise;Trademark.

>>389013465
Game UK says it releases on the 13th October. Nothing official, but it's the only release date I've seen which makes sense considering what PQube has said in the past.

http://www.game.co.uk/en/chaos-child-1848754

>>389006405
I think the vn was better for a number of reasons:
1) art style: kurisu looks a lot better in the vn
2) The longer length gives you more time to appreciate it and a better understanding of the story details
3) the character specific endings give a lot of character context that is missing from the anime. for example, if you watch the anime you'll probably think feris is an annoying bitch, but if you play her end in the vn you'll see how very wrong you were.

>>389013997
that's an important point. Kurisu is hot as hell in the VN and official VN art. She's still attractive but distinctly less stunning in the anime.
Also, Faris is always annoying. One of the few objective improvements to the anime was cutting down her chapter.

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Every time I beat a game a day or two later a /v/ thread shows up for it, I'm legit spooked.

Anyways fucking hell I can't even count how many times Steins Gate made me tear up suzuha best girl

So is 0 ZTD / DR3 levels of bad, or is it decent but flawed?

And did anyone else think Nae going psycho was the stupidest shit ever?

tuturu~

>>389012706
>it explicitly reverses Okabe's realization that everybody has a degree of it in the true ending
What do you mean?

>>389014285
>ZTD / DR3 levels of bad
hell no that's literally impossible

>>389012960
I haven't shifted anything, because you aren't really paying attention to what I'm saying. Yeah maybe 10 years from now people will still have shit taste, I'd hope not but I won't hold my breath.

>>389014356
One of the final lines in the VN is Okabe realizing that everybody has reading steiner. One of the final lines in the anime is Okabe declaring that only he has it.

>>389014285
I thought 0 was pretty good.
>Nae
that level of revenge fucking dedication tho

>>389014481
>One of the final lines in the anime is Okabe declaring that only he has it.
I don't recall this. Doesn't he admit that other people have it in the anime when the shit with faris goes down?

>>389014285

0 isn't bad. It's just doesn't live up to the original and has a lot of wasted potential.

>>389014285
Decent but flawed. Not as good as the original but it makes you appreciate the true end of the original more, and the two main routes are good. The main complaint I've heard from people about it are that the true end was too short and a bit vague.

>>389014591
I don't think he ever directly addresses it in the anime. Or he at least avoids using the term 'reading steiner', which confuses the matter.

what are the best guides for s;g0 and c;h? i am a retard that cannot figure out simple things on my own

>>389014697
This is true, it implied some depressing things about the version of him that goes on a search for those particular people.

>>389014480
>move goalposts
>still can't say why it's poorly written
I'm done with handouts. at least put in some work and try for another (you)

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>>389014745
Zero is braindead. Let me see if I can find the c;h one, that one is a bit more tricky

>>389014849
If you don't even care to read posts properly then there's no need to explain shit to you.

>>389004809
R;8

>>389015057
>Stop calling me directly on things and accept my unjustified assertions

>>389015020
do you recommend a certain order for this?

>>389015120
>I'm honestly curious
>assertion
dumbfuck

>>389015248
>I can't justify my own opinion on this being bad but I want people to take it on face value, please stop challenging it

>>389015301

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S;G > S;G 0 >>>> C;H

Really hope Chaos;Child is as good as everyone is saying because the first C;H was a massive disappointment. It was cool until about halfway in where the writers must have had a stroke or something.

>>389015150
Promised R first, Vega and Altair second is definitely the best way to experience the story.

>>389015150
I'd recommend Gehenna first, but you can play them in any order. Just know that True End is reached from the end of the Vega and Altair after already completing Promised Rinascimento, so if you want to go straight from Vega and Altair into True End, save it for last.
Here's the C;H guide as well: https://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/952182-chaoshead/faqs/61850

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>>389015792
don't do it anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbF4-DGAPf0

In case you haven't seen it: What is Chaos;Child and why should you care?

I hope Chaos;Child does well so we get the other games over here, like Occultic;Nine.

Who /pepperite/ here?

>>389015981
Nah, it'll flop and they'll default to S;G3. I honestly won't complain because there's enough room for a true sequel but they really need to stop fucking around with their other games. Anonymous;Code at least looks promising if they can get it to sell.

>>389016130
Why did S;G have so much magic in a bottle, while all the sister properties don't have even half of its charm and coherence? Even the sequel was only compelling because it was a sequel to stein's gate.

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Give it to me straight doc. Will Stein's Gate make me tear up/flat out cry. I cry at shit like Clannad and Air to give you an example.

>>389016645
Great characters, a well thought out and internally consistent take on time travel and a core story that's easily to emotionally engage with.

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>>389016130
>Robotics;Notes sequel has been hijacked by Steins;Gate

>>389016716
>easily
I think my brain was writing two sentences at once there.
>>389016657
Yes, in places.

>>389016657
Probably, but its appeal runs much deeper than just tragedy. It's also a comedy, a love story and a make anon feel like he has friends sim.

>>389016645
I really don't know. Hope C;C and A;C can turn things around. A;C specifically feels like it has the most potential to be as amazing as Steins;Gate.

>>389016657
Not really, there's a sad scene that springs to mind but there's nothing on the level of Key works.

>>389015981
I'm getting it for itself, but I really do wanna see Robotics;Notes Elite get translated.

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>>389016834
>>389016783
>>389016774
Thank you for your feedback. I'm slowly playing other sad VNs to build up the courage to tackle my emotional evisceration endgame, Katawa Shoujo.

>>389016807
I'm down for playing all of these games on vita as soon as they come west. Fucking amazon.ca doesn't have C;C up for pre-order yet. Oh, except for O;N... saw the anime and the story was pretty weak, I'm not going through that one again.

>>389003306
Rather just play Katawa Shoujo.

>>389016941
S;G is less likely to make you straight-up cry at specific moments and more just leave you feeling drained. It's a fairly intense story once it gets going. More likely to wear you out than manipulate you.

I'm still waiting for an english translation of that one hentai where they put a collar on the female scientist and it forced her to obey all commands

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>>389017000
I've started reading the light novel of Occultic;Nine and it's tons better than the anime and reminds me of why I like SciAdv - tons of conspiracies, real world science and an intriguing plot.

I hope the west gets the visual novel.

>>389016657
>be /pol/fag who watches isis execution videos and feels nothing
>experience very little emotion in day to day life
>Steins;Gate mentally destroyed me
I don't know how or why, it gets me every time.

>>389015981
I read a synopsis for C;H and it seemed like shit. Why would this be different? The vid didn't mention much of C;H

>>389017084
You wouldn't happen to have a link to this, would you?
>>389017337
Presumably because you don't particularly care about any of the people involved in the execution videos. Empathy works differently for different people.

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I'm reading C;H right now. It's pretty good and the main character is a fucking retard but at the same time, he is believable socially autistic creep.

But I've seen some people saying that the VN takes a nose dive at some point. Is it true?

>>389017576
You're right, but compared to so many other things it has affected me to an unreal level.
I literally learned enough piano just to play gate of steiner and hacking to the gate.
fug

>>389017721
You have a thing for slightly retarded sisterus and science-loving girls.

>>389017580
I don't think anyone here has played anything other than S;G

>>389017835
>science-loving girls.
My ex did end up going to MIT and working for tesla, got me there.
I found it far more horrifying though. Imagining living through the pain of episode 12-onwards when shit hits the fan is absolutely horrifying.

>>389017721
>I literally learned enough piano just to play gate of steiner and hacking to the gate.
That's sick. I've been meaning to do that.

>>389017981
Do it. Look into synthesia, it's guitar hero but for keyboard. Hook up fullsized keyboard to computer with midi to USB cable and you're golden.
I can also play most tunes from chrono trigger and chrono cross now.

>>389017580
It does go downhill towards the end sadly, but it's still an enjoyable experience.

>>389017919
It goes for much longer in the VN, too. Okabe's suffering is fairly immense.

>>389017576
Zettai Fukujuu no Merican Virgin

>>389018138
I really hope they somehow have a third one in the works. Tore though 0 with zero sleep and all endings.

>>389018219
>Wanting Okabe to suffer even more
You monster

>>389018191
Thank you. You've also reminded me I need to set up sadpanda on this computer.
>>389018352
Personally, I'd rather see what the hell happens with him and SG-Kurisu.

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>>389018352
I need more

>>389018219
Robotics;Notes DaSH is coming out, which a sequel to Robotics;Notes but with Steins;Gate characters.

>>389018219
I just hope they fix 0 with the anime adaptation. Cut as much of Kagari as possible especially that stupid, implausible twist with yuki, make the villains less vaudvillian, make better use of Amadeus

>>389018383
just throw it in google, you'll get plenty of references. Only in Jap/Korean though. Seems like no one bothered to translate it after it came out.

Is this the correct rating?

Chaos;Child > Steins;Gate > Chaos;Head Noah > Steins;Gate 0 > Robotics;Notes Elite

>>389010518
>and it's probably the end of the entire story

Haha, it's not actually.

>>389018575
Having only read the original c;h, s;g, and c;c. my personal rating is
c;c > c;h > s;g

>>389018941
Good. I read one theory that it's possible there will be a show that ties all of the related shows together, in the same universe. Muh dick.

>>389019627
>We will never get Carnival Phantasm: SciADV Edition

>>389019846
>I don't even know what that is
My anime is limited to steinsgate and full metal panic. I will investigate.

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>>389003306
One of my favorite pieces of fiction, even if it isn't perfect. It just connected with me perfectly with the mix of slice of life, science fiction, and romance. Plus Okabe is a great character and Kurisu is literally perfect it's insane.

I still really enjoyed S;G0

>>389020290
Kurisu is far too goddamn perfect. It's not fair.

>>389020290
best be playin phantom breaker with that

>>389020349
Just Guilty Gear. A DLC character for an average looking beat em up wasn't enough for me to give in to jews.

>>389020537
>A DLC character for an average looking beat em up
are you thinking of battlegrounds?

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>>389021445
Yeah, I've never heard of this phantom breaker fighting game until now. Maybe if I can pick it up for cheap I'll dust off my ps3 and play it with my brother just to play her.

>>389021760
Chibi Kurisu a cute.

Would be better without Faris and Luka. They are completely unnecessary and just there so the otaku and weebs buy it.

Amadeus was fucking pointless

>>389013997
>if you watch the anime you'll probably think feris is an annoying bitch, but if you play her end in the vn you'll see how very wrong you were.
No, Faris is even more of an annoying bitch there

>>389022505
S;G 0 was completely fucking pointless, it was a story that nobody wanted told

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S;G is great, adaptation is pretty meh and 0 is all right. I feel bad for people who like the anime but refuse to play the VN, they are missing so much and the anime butchered a lot of the dialogue and storylines.

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>>389022568
>story nobody wanted told
Says you. There are a bunch of stories and drama CDs that didn't need to exist but the story of how the Okabe from the future came to be is a story people wanted.

Anyone go through Linear Bounded Phenogram?
Some were hit or miss, but others were especially fantastic. It took a while to realize that it wasn't just a a bunch of goofy fuck around episodes when shit got real at the end of the first one.

>>389009405
It's not a show you fucking moron, it's a visual novel. Why don't you actually play the fucking game instead of watching the mediocre as fuck anime?

Suzuha was Braun's wife and Nia's mother but it was retconned near the end because it would have caused a ton of butthurt

>she and Nia get along well and look similar
>Braun really likes her and reminds him of his wife
>we never see Braun's wife
>they met chronologically the same time they had to have been married
>she was a "good friend" and he inherited alll her stuff

Writing is on the wall, people

>>389022906
It's almost like all the people that shit on it constantly are themselves retarded casuals.

>>389022979
?

she was significantly older than him, wasn't she

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>>389022979
>we never see Braun's wife
that's because she's already dead

>>389023214
Photographs exist

They look at her shrine but it's conveniently missing

VNs are fucking trash but the steins;gate anime is a great anime with a great story, but it is infected with ancient cringe tier maymays and it really brings it down.

It's sucks since the story is awesome, the dialogue is just shit

>>389024859
Lucky for you that cringe tier maymay shit is only in the english sub version of the naime, no where in the VN but since you're fucking trash you aren't going to play it.

If I could change one thing in the anime it'd be that Suzuha's foreshadowing wasn't so... fucking blatant.

So blatant that the characters have to act like outright retards not to indulge in some outright curiosity regarding it. And have it not abundantly clear to the audience that something is going on with her.

It'd make it far more interesting as a twist if we weren't expecting a twist all along.

That last part is where the series often falls apart purely on a directing level. So many things are supposed to be surprises but regardless of the content itself inevitably being surprising it sets up characters and moods where we're constantly expecting something to happen anyway. Seeing as we're on /v/ it's best comparable to say, shortcuts in the souls games where it's overly clear that they're going to be shortcuts later, so you just kinda plod through the motions expecting the shortcut to come.

>>389025593
Most of the anime is rushed as fuck, what do you expect from a 30 hours story heavy VN compressed down to 10 hours of animu?

>>389004809
only played chaos;head, which gets a 3, and steins;gate, which gets a 8.5 but would have probably gotten a 10 if uchikoshi hadn't ruined mystery sci-fi games for me

>>389025593
>>389025762

It's even more hamfisted in the VN. That's the problem, in VNs you still get stupid characters, while in $CURRENT_YEAR people have experienced enough mystery stories to recognize foreshadowing when it happens.

I wish VNs got some kind of "rational" renaissance and characters stopped being retarded so I could actually experience the twists with them.

>>389026518
Living through something and observing something are 2 completely different situations. It's like people on gameshows vs people who watch them.

>>389026585
I know, I don't expect them to be "genre savvy", but if you ALREADY know time travel is a thing and this girl appears to not know anything about modern society you should be at least considering the possibility.

The main characters never, ever, even consider the twist before it happens. I assume that's to keep the twist fresh, but whatever. It's dumb.

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>>389026671
To them, it's astronomically more likely that Suzuha is just a sheltered weirdo than a time traveler.

>>389027715
Not after they're aware time travel has already happened. The suzu "twist" happens later than you remember, probably.

>>389027765
Why would they think every random weirdo is a time traveler?

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>>389027765
It's still more likely that she's a nutbar. As far as they know she's just a chick who likes riding her bike.

>>389027893
Nobody is saying they should be taking it as a fact. I'm saying MC should have innerly considered the possibility.

>>389027765
Were they aware of physical time travel without gelifying being possible before that?

>>389028007
John Titor had already confirmed themselves as legit, though I guess you could argue they could just be sending the posts to the past instead of being actually there.

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>>389021760
You can get that on Steam.

>>389027945
It's entirely reasonable for Okabe to not come to that conclusion.

>>389028070
So did you ever consider Moeka to be receiving messages from the future and that being the reason she's on her phone all the time?

>>389028320
good point

>>389027945
You are overestimating Okabe but I will chalk that up to anime watchers losing a metric fuckton of internal dialogue by him.

>>389028420
I'm not an anime watcher, but thanks for proving my point. A chuuni assuming people are time travelers is even more likely.

>>389028238
Kurisu and Suzuha look far too good together.

>>389028505
He doesn't actually believe any of the shit he spouts out though.

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>>389014146
>Kurisu is hot as hell in the VN and official VN art.
Truth.

>>389028505
>A chuuni assuming people are time travelers is even more likely.
Except he doesn't buy his own bullshit. He would never seriously think that someone in front of him was a flesh and blood time traveler unless he saw proof.

>>389028561
The two of them are 10/10s, so it's only natural.

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>>389028238
Referring to the fighting game to be specific isn't on steam. It doesn't look all that special, but could be fun.

>>389028505
He flat out calls out 'Titor' as full of shit and laughs at himself for getting so invested when getting the message that he could be humanity's savior.

its fucking shit everything about it is shit VNs aren't videogames

>>389028737
Right, my mistake. I though you were still talking about Battlegrounds.

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>>389028723
Alpha Suzu is the second best S;G girl.

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>>389028821
Kurisu > Alpha Suzu > Maho

>>389003306
>the most cringy protagonist ever made
>pseudo science that are just wikipedia quoting theories I heard about when I was 10
>retarded choices like "do you like hot chocolate or not?" that define your ending
>obvious "twist" anyone can see coming
>science genius shitposting on 2chan, and can also walk everywhere she wants with no consequences, despite being in the middle of a science tour

my experience with this game was terrible, there isn't even porn

>>389028723
They are both unacceptably attractive. It's not reasonable. Especially Kurisu since she's got the whole image nailed without any apparent intent or effort.

>>389029204
This is either copy paste or you never played the game.

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>>389028923
I don't agree with you but I respect your opinions.

>>389003306
Funny thing, I've never seen a Steins;Gate thread on /v/ before but now that I've almost completed the game for the first time I see one immediately. It's a great VN, no question about it, but I have one major complaint and that is how ridiculously difficult it is to get the true ending if you're playing blind. Like, goddamn. Among the countless emails that you get during the entire story, six have an effect on the true ending with some building up to a chain of emails, and you have to choose the right answer for EVERY SINGLE ONE or otherwise you're fucked. You can lock yourself out of the true ending as early as episode 4 (less than halfway through the game) and there's literally no way to know which emails are the important ones and what answers you're supposed to pick unless you're reading a guide. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make multiple non-canon endings that can be achieved really easily and then hide the true ending behind a bunch of cryptic bullshit that no ordinary human can get past without a walkthrough? Jesus.

Out of the non-canon endings, Suzuha's ending had the biggest impact on me.

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>>389028923
Kurisu > Maho > Alpha Suzu
Alpha Suzu is pretty hot, fit, and decently smart, but there is something special about Maho that puts her above in my book. I think it's the insecurity underneath all the clearly established superior skill is what make her and Kurisu much more relatable and endearing to me.

>>389029380
I did play it
ended up with the pink haired irrelevant joke character, despite not even talking to her more than once

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>>389029497
Yes this is the true patrician ranking

>>389029507
All right so you are retarded, got it.

>>389029204
>pseudo science that are just wikipedia quoting theories I heard about when I was 10
nigger you can say this about zero escape but steins;gate was seriously on point with its science, barring the actual time travel mechanics

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>>389029497
I don't like Kurisu that much.

>>389029637
so?
haering every character masturbating to parrallel worlds is nothing to be proud of
of course if you change the past it will either create a new timeline or change the current present, erasing paradoxes without anyone from the present time noticing it (because the even didn't happen)
anyone knows that

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>>389029490
Yeah i thought that was kind of fucked up too

>>389029749
"anyone knows that" is wrong. Nobody knows how time travel would actually work in reality. You are talking about the most common theories *in fiction*.

You sound like either a very young person or just retarded.

>>389029490
Suzuha, S;G True End and Twin Automata are the best endings in the series.

>>389029959
You'd best not be implying that Suzuha is a better end than True with that order, anon.

>>389029959
Yeah Maho and Moeka being friends was really nice that ending was cool

>>389029915
that's why I talking about pseudo science
I don't see how having a base knowledge make me retarded, I just don't have the marvel of discovery of these theories with the vn like you did, nothing more

also, talling people they are retarded when the main protagonist is unbearable because he is genuinely retarded is rude

>>389030097
How dare you speak to me

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>>389030037
I just put them in chronological order.
>>389030051
Having a story where Moeka isn't a shit character is actually a great thing and I wish she wasn't so bad all the time.

Will I like this if I don't like Time Travel?

The only two good time travel stories are Back to the Future (for ignoring the science and focusing entirely on one or two simple concepts and fun) or Homestuck (which autistically closed every loop and issue in order to lampoon how complex time travel stories would have to be)

Ignore my opinions in the last paragraph, just give me an answer to my question.

>>389030215
Yes. The time travel is both internally consistent and the means to an end, rather than the focus. It's a character driven story.

>>389030215
>reddit spacing
>only good time travel stories are 2 bad examples of time travel
No anon.

>>389030147
I'm sorry

In the end I just had a terrible experience with the game
if you liked it, please continue to enjoy it, and have a good day

>>389030308
Back to the Future is a great film. Just not a good time travel story.

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>>389030097
Steins;Gate intentionally uses pseudoscience and fringe science. You aren't being clever when you point it out.

>>389030308

I've always spaced this way. When I started on 4chan you'd get flamed for text walls.

>>389030409

Even after defending it, I can somewhat agree with this.

I just fucking hate time travel.

>>389022750
when u spot femboi

>>389030558
When it comes to using time travel in a story, how can a story not use pseudoscience and friend science?

>>389006463
BUT, he's a guy

>>389030669
It's pretty easy to just make shit up or not explain it, which is what most time-travel stories do. Part of what makes Steins;Gate special is that it uses dodgy "theories" that can be found IRL.

>>389030585
>I just fucking hate time travel

then >>389030251 seems to make a good point. I do enjoy time travel if done well, but it's ultimately not why I ended up loving Steins;Gate. I didn't even know Steins;Gate was a story with time travel when I got it, just that it was sci-fi and that I heard good things about it and Kurisu's design added dick influence to the decision. When time travel is implemented in fiction like shit to get around holes in writing or to make it seem more deep than it is, or fixates on it like it's some marvel in story telling, it annoys me, not time travel itself.

>>389031005
>Kurisu will never bully you
Alternatively
>Robo-Kurisu will never bully you

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>>389031227
why live

Holy shit, I fucking loved Kurisu. Amazing girl. Also, she's only borderline tsundere. I would prefer not to call her tsundere at all because she lacks a lot of the stereotypes. She isn't even tsuntsun at the beginning; it's Okabe that made her act tsuntsun occassionally after their meeting.
It's not that I don't see why people would call her one, but it's not really tsundere.

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>>389031227
>Kurisu and Amadeus will never bully you at the same time

>>389031524
I want to bully Kurisu. With my dick.

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>>389031576
woath there buddy

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>>389031165
>Kurisu's design added dick influence to the decision
That's what got me to watch the show for the first time as well. I wouldn't be surprised if that was common.

>>389031432
Don't worry too much about it. It's just a convenient way of talking about a part of her personality.

>>389003306
What's with the fucking semi-colon?

>>389031672
Thinking back on it, I was already interested but having an insanely hot redhead/brunette/etc as the main girl may have been a factor.

>>389031715
SciAdv does it with all their games.

>>389031672
I'm impressed at how good they were at writing characters.
Mayuri was never annoying and was really enjoyable. Cute too. I still feel like there was a missing plot element with her. Like she knew more than she let on. I thought her grandma would play a role or something.
Shining Finger I KNEW we couldn't trust and hated her... till I got to her route and she kinda looks cute without her glasses.
Daru is great, Faris is fun, etc.
I honestly liked all the characters. Maybe if girl Luka did a bit more, it'd be better but it's minor.

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>>389031715
Chuunibyou;Syndrome

>>389031828
No one can blame you for being encouraged by that.

>>389032039
Mayuri gets expanded upon in 0. All the cast do really.

>>389031627
There is literally nothing wrong with wanting to lewd Kurisu.

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Maho X Moeka OTP

>>389032150
As long as Kurisu is in Zero, I'll play it.

I'm undecide about going for Remember11 or Zero next

>>389003306
Moeka>Trap>DURRDUDUUUU>John Conner with a vag>nyan girl>shit>That stupid ugly flat chested Dr. Pepper advertisement.

>>389032039
Luka was kind of bland, he didn't really do anything or contribute anything and sadly it doesn't get better in 0, only the addition of more useless characters are added.

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>>389032395
>stupid ugly flat chested Dr. Pepper advertisement.
Excuse me, but Okabe is smart and very handsome.

>>389008161
I hated that both of them were restricted by timey wimey bullshit to harm one another. I mean Okabe is in shit athletic shape and was probably mentally, physically and emotionally drained by that point in time but being unable to out grapple an 11 year old child is a little outlandish. That one rogue incident from a one off timeline made me hate that bit character.

>>389032373
Kurisu is in 0 so if you want to see more of her, play that.

>>389032504
I meant the other stupid ugly flat chested Dr. Pepper ad. What was her name, Corpus Christi?

>>389032637
But there aren't any other flat chested Dr Pepper ads.

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>>389032690
Regardless, Kurisu a SHIT.

>>389032690
You can also tell he watched the anime, because he thinks that Kurisu is flat or likes Doctor P.

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>>389032636

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>enter the thread
>get 200 posts in
>realize its actually about games

god damn it

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>>389032637
Her chest is good enough for me.

I respect your opinion man, and I enjoyed all the characters. Not anyone's fault a personal favorite is also popular. Go commission some Moeka lewds if you're jealous.

>>389032789
She does drink it in the VN but she doesn't really care about it one way or another.

>>389032690
Kurisu is NOT flat chested.

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>>389032825
fuck

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>>389032786
Kurisu a BEST.

>>389032789
She likes Doctor Pepper. She just isn't fanatical about it like Okabe.

>>389032885
Have a larger version of her lewd chest.

>>389033028
In the VN she doesn't care about the drink. And she has a larger chest.

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>>389032885
Fair enough. I'm just shitposting. I actually like the whole cast and I didn't know if I liked Kurisu or Moeka better. Kurisu because I love smart girls who could debate me on shit but Moeka's body and the fact that she's almost as pathetic as me is just hhhnnnnggggg

>>389003306
>Nier
How does that relate to anything else in that picture?

also Kurisu best gril

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>>389033028
thanks. I thought I had this one in my best girl folder, but I must have avoided my crippling compulsory habit or thought I already had it.

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>>389032934

>>389032395
>the trap
>second
Anon...

>>389003306
Not kamige. Shit VN

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>>389033132
It's a joke image making fun of the retarded names anon

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>>389033201
No problem anon. Have some more wet Kurisu.

>>389033546
Continue.

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>>389033518

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>>389033585

>>389033591
A masterpiece.

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>>389033585
With soaked shirts or general lewdness?

>>389033861
Either/or.

>>389033861
both

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>>389033794

>>389033992
The true tragedy of S;G0 right here

>>389003439
>>389004634
Was S;G 0 that bad?

>>389033794
>>389033992
>>389033997
What is this?

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>>389033902
>>389033921
I don't have too much involving wet clothes but I do have quite a lot of lewds.

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>>389034069
>try to post this image
>duplicate file

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>>389033902
How about cute?

>>389003306
Really mediocre. It's really hard to believe that a fat fuck, a chunni, and a retard invented time travel by mistake.
Also Sern or whatever is too incompetent to considered a real threat

>>389034101
Lewds are acceptable.
>>389034326
Cute is also also acceptable.

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>>389034326
Pictures can please both your heart and your dick you know.

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>>389034057
It didn't really introduce enough new plot elements to justify another VN so a huge amount of screen time gets wasted on aimless character interaction. It has some extremely good scenes but probably could have been stripped and shoved into Steins;Gate instead of being a sequel. Ends on a really shitty note because of this and sometimes mucks up the established time travel mechanics.
Still worth a read.

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>>389034170
I'm you from the future
Stay home tomorrow

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>>389034528
Thanks for the head's up.

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>>389034426
Let me know if you'd like something in particular.

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>>389034465
I know the move isn't really canon and was mostly just for the fans, but I still loved it and cried like a bitch.

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MAHO

I liked 0, but it was really weirdly put together. It makes you think all that Amadeus shit is going sonewhere, but it doesn't, not really. So it spends all this time with it then just dumps that whole plotline when the villains are revealed. And Punished Okabe is almost too much. It gets almost too negative to fucking handle, but then it turns into a saturday morning cartoon and everything is k. The whole thing felt pretty rushed and poorly thought out, like they just threw it together as fast as they could, the fucking incredibly easy route management compared to S;G's batshit insane bullshit is pretty telling, I think.

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>>389034867
The movie was pretty dumb and broke a lot of Steins;Gate's rules, but it was worth it for all those adorable Kurisu scenes.

>>389035045
S;G 0 brings up a lot of ideas, then dumps them immediately to push the tighter Sci;Adv connection. It's both annoying and a waste of what could've been a great VN.
>>389035150
If it was just presented as a 'what if' for Kurisu ending up in Okabe's position it would've gone over a lot better. Most of the character stuff was on point, but it made them look like idiots because of the context.

>>389004634
I preferred 0 to the first one as well anon. Not by much but it hit me harder

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>>389034528

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>>389034918
I want a scale.

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>>389035270
The part I'm saltiest about is the USSR timeline. Exploring that would've been amazing.

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>ywn do research with Maho

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>>389035805
Research or "research"?

>>389004809
>Occultic;Nine: 6
>Steins;Gate 0: 7
>Chaos;Head Noah : 9

>>389035938
Maho is for research.
Kurisu is for 'research'.

>>389035805
>you murder the little shit pointless character that almost ruined s;g

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>>389036158
Can't deny that.

>tfw leskinen turns out to be evil
I saw it coming from a mile away but I was hoping they would flesh out his character more

>>389017580
Unless you're playing Noah which is jap only atm and patch isn't coming out in a fucking long while, the ending is pretty meh when they start getting into the whole Di-Sword thing.
go through it only to see Crying Sky (True bad end) which requires getting Silent Sky (Normal ending) or Blue Sky (True end), it's fucking great

>>389036413
That image should be illegal. It's too much.

>>389036680
wait till you see all the genderbend stuff

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>>389036680
Too much?

>>389036869
Tit's are too big, picture ruined

>>389007812
>deleting a recording of an email in SERN database somehow deletes the email from existence across all time
this is the only thing i can't full understand

>>389004809
All I remember of Robotic;Notes is the anime version and that fat ass.

>>389036490
I hated how comically evil he was. He went from being an actual character to some Snidely Whiplash shit in like 2 seconds flat. 'No way this guy could be evil, it would be too obvio-... oh'.

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>>389036918
Here then.

>>389036490
Leskinen was interesting for me because he was so charming that I was desperately hoping that he wouldn't turn out to be evil.

>>389037001
They delete the D-Mail before a human affiliated with the Committee sees it, thereby preventing the future dystopia from happening.

>>389036869
Similarly too much.
>>389037270
See above. How is a scientist so lewd?