Where do I start? What should I know?

If you still have your PS2 you can get the "holy trinity" (04, 5, Zero) for pretty cheap online. If not, 5 and Zero emulate near flawlessly, as do the PS1 titles and the 2 games for PSP.

Try to play 04, probably the best game in the series.

04 5 and 0 make up the ace combat holy trinity of vidya. Hopefully 7 makes it a quaternity.

>>388996450
>>388996646
Why is it called holy trinity? Are the other games shit or just not as good? Are there games I should definitely avoid? Whats with the PC game on steam?

I still have a old PS2 at my parents home.

>>388996769
Those three are just the best. Most people really dick ride 5, and for good reason, but 0 is my personal favorite.

6 is also pretty decent, weaker story. But better visuals. Only on x360 though.

Okay, so definitely 4, 5 and 0.
I don't own a 360.

What's with the PS3 and PC games?

How are the original games on PS1? I don't mind dated graphics. Just recently played FF7 and Digimon World.

>>388997134
>PS3 and PC games?
COMPLETELY IGNORE ASSAULT HORIZON (asswhore for short)
Infinity (multiplayer focus) should be dead by now

>>388997134
Oh and btw, never, and I mean NEVER, underestimate ACX (psp), but is better to play it emulated or on a Vita to have some better controls.

AC1 kinda falls flat graphicswise even compared (was a launch title) AC2 and 3 are worth a shot, get the fan tld version of 3 tho.

>>388997218
>COMPLETELY IGNORE ASSAULT HORIZON (asswhore for short)
not op but could u explain why

>>388996769
They're just that fookin' good senpai. Good goddamn vidya.

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>>388997646
To keep it simple, the forced DFM (dogfight mode) turns the game into one big Call of Duty QTE, and it can't be disabled in any way. Additionally, the game is balanced for using it, so enemies are either evasive flying tanks, or weak aircraft that explode when you press a button or two.

>>388997646
Scamco thought it would be a good idea to chase the Cawadoody kiddies, for this this abomination of a game included
>simplified controls
>abandoning the stablished canon world in favor of MUH EVUL RUSSIAN COMMIES
>abandoned the technical focus of a generally good looking game in favor of ULTRA REALISTIC DESTROYED PLANES, to the point that a catchphrase during publicity was "Make Metal Bleed"
>Fucking helicopter gunner missions for some reason
and the worst offender
>Fucking qtes on regular flights (on top of the simplified controls) making the whole thing a joke.

Holy shit 6 is gorgeous. Man am I hyped for 7 now.

>>388998112
>>388998254
While all of this is true, it's still a fun game on its own, just a shit Ace Combat title.

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>>388998482
6 is woefully underrated in the graphics department, it's the single best looking game on the 360, and it launched in 2007

>>388995448
The cream of the crop are the PS2 games. Ace Combat 04, Ace Combat 5, and Ace Combat Zero in that order are widely agreed as the best way to experience the series.

After that, I'd recommend Ace Combat 6 (xbox 360) for more of the same experience as the PS2 games storywise, or Ace Combat X (PSP) for more of the same gameplay. After that, if you want the most 90s game you will ever play, Ace Combat 2.

Ace Combat 3 is like... an RPG? Sorta. It's a spinoff game in a similar universe, but the future is all cyberpunk and dystopian and there's a branching storyline. However, all the characters suck. This one, you'll have to emulate and patch an English translation into. (Check /vg/'s /aceg/, emulation guides for all games and translation patches are always at the top of the thread)

>>388998602
It isn't.
When the flight mechanics of your game are on par with those on fucking battlefield you know that something is fucking wrong.

>>388998254
>Scamco
you know it's ALL bandai's fault. that company is a plague and the merge was the worst ever. I dare say worse than square+enix or activision+blizzard

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>>388998989
>However, all the characters suck.
Delet

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>>388998989
kys
dision did nothing wrong

>>388998989
>It's a spinoff game in a similar universe
Are you taking the piss?
Its a regular sequel on the same universe of the Big3 but set in 2045 or someshit like that.

>>388998797
IMO, 6 looks better than Infinity. Infinity should've used 6's engine, instead of ASS HORIZON's.

>>389000097
It is, but 6's engine was stuck on 360, that would have meant porting it to ps3 for Infinity.

>>389000097
How is Infinity? I completely forgot it existed.
Is it still up? Is it worth checking out right now?

>>389000097
They all use the same engine, it's just that AH's "artstyle" was fucked and Infinity just upped the contrast

>>389000409
Why did they even release 6 on the 360? AC has been a PlayStation franchise the rest of the time. Was it a deal with MS that didn't pan out?

>>388998797
The sound is also really fantastic. I can't believe it took me this long to play it.

>>389000559
Microsoft probably paid them for it. They went after a surprisingly large number of Japanese exclusives last generation.

>>389000559
For a brief period of time, Microsoft paid a shitload of Japanese developers money for timed exclusives.
The thing with timed exclusives is that most developers aren't going to suddenly port a game 1-2 years later to a different console for no reason. A PS3 version of 6 was """planned""" but obviously never came out.
Other games like Chromehounds went through the same thing.

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Start with 2, and marvel at how every other game has taken from it.

It's the only game in the series that has been rereleased with upgraded visuals (on the ps2), has been remade (on 3ds) and essentially reimmaged (ace combat 4). Aces Project ain't shy at their love for it.

It's straight up action and rock&roll. You don't need radio chatter ego stroking, becuase you'll feel it by your actions and the pumping music.

>>389000863
>timed
This is the 1st time I've heard of this, everywhere else I've read about this, said the game (and some others) were Exclusive, period.

>>388998482
Yeah 6 was pretty god damn sexy for x360. If 7 is going to match that and exceed it with the weather effects then my dick is hard.

>>389001556
I am still baffled at how there wasn't a stage presentation for ac7 vr at e3, would have rocked the show for immersive potential.

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>>388995448
>tfw keep crashing at the very end of the tunnel in the final AC5 mission
I'm busy as fuck so I get frustrated easily these daya, especially since I have to restart the whole mission each time.
Am I shit or what? Had no problems throughout all of AC4 so I'm not sure anymore.

>>389001631
Newsflash: Sony is fucking RETARDED
This is the company that thought that showing Dissidia NT wasnt worth it, but wasted time showing VR Fishing simulator with Noctis and fuckfriends.

>>389002069
>AC5
git gud?
Hell, its not even ACX's tunnel run featuring WOBBLY SCREEN WEEEEEE

>>388998112
Also, it's set in the real world, and the real world sucks.

And then there's this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFr5SxHxACg

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>>388995448
This is going to sound weird, but I, too, was interested in getting into Ace Combat.

I mostly play Simulators right now. The game I play the most is DCS with six different modules.

I know Ace Combat isn't DCS, but I'm tired of the grind. I want something new and exciting. Where should I start?

>>389002384
Literally the first post in the thread.
Ace Combat isn't a simulator, it's an arcade game that gets carried by its dialogue.

Are these games anything like Rogue Squadron?

>>389002454
I do not have a PS2 anymore. Do they emulate well?

will I be able to enjoy 7 without having played the older ones?

>>389002565
....
Literally the 1st post of the thread.
Again.

>>389002384
6 is the newest and the prettiest but is a 360 exclusive

>>389002565
5 and Zero seem to work fine.
4 has issues.

>>388998112
Also, regenerating health. Regenerating plane health.

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>>389002605
We still don't know.
While they share the same world/setting (picrel) we don't know how heavy the throwbacks to wars/events on the previous games are gonna be.
You are just missing out by not playing them tho

>>389002605
Director has said they are expecting mostly new players since it's been so long, but if you want to get settled in beforehand then 5 would be the game to play, as 7 is taking place about ten years after 5.

So how does this work. You fly the only superplane flown by a god among hordes of faceless mooks?

>>388995448
4, 5, 0 and 6 are arguably the best to play today. The two PSP titles are pretty good and the PS1 titles are excellent but very dated now. The first two have hard rock "Top Gun" style soundtracks that are genuinely excellent if that interests you, 2 >>>> 1 though.

Avoid Ass Horizon like the plague. The 3DS title should be avoided if only because it reduces the dogfights into QTE's and rips all of the fun out of the gameplay. Infinity is free on the PS3 and pretty good but it's very multiplayer centric, the campaign is decent but extremely short and not worth what you pay to unlock it (or how much you have to grind)

>>389000863
>The thing with timed exclusives is that most developers aren't going to suddenly port a game 1-2 years later to a different console for no reason.
They had a *damn* good reason to port 6 to the PS3, because that's where most of the series' fans probably were.

>>389001376
Good luck hitting anything with guns, though.

>>389001631
Nobody seems to realize the potential in old series with die hard fans like Ace Combat or Front Mission. They do a shitty reboot that nobody likes, decide that means there is no interest, and when they finally get their act together they don't put any money into marketing it.

>>389003054
No you fly whatever plane you want. You are the super pilot.

>>389003054
Ace Combat Musou when?

>>389002460
They're fairly similar in gameplay, yes.

>>389003054
No, you generally unlock a super plane later after beating the final boss who flies it or collecting the parts in missions across the game or some shit.

No doubt you are way better than the AI in any plane you fly, but they often have things that are or should be more technically superior.

Oh also you sometimes go up against Metal Gear style super weapons like laser towers, rail guns, giant air carriers, mega sub's, and shit like that.

>>389003682
2006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IItwHKhKndY

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>>389003821
Do you think we will get MP-only superweapon raids ala infinity? shit was dope

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>>388995448
If you have a 3DS. I recommend Ace Combat Assualt Horizon Legacy + (Ace Combat Cross Rumble) aka. Ace Combat 2 remake

>>389003821
>mega sub's
Mega subs that are also aircraft carriers.

>>388996646
This is what I did. Played through 4 last week, then did 5 in one day, and just started 0 last night.
I liked 5 way more so far.
After Zero I'll get around to making any of the shitty ps1 emulators play AC3JP correctly.

>>389003965
That would be sweet. My favorite are the giant air carriers like in 6 and 0. The railgun in 6 isn't as much fun since it was just a lower tier tunnel run.

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>>389004619
I love the Ace duels in Zero. Those fights in the Round Table and after you can watch those lore videos of what happened to the Ace fighters post war.

Lore and Ace battles and that soundtrack with the flamenco! Gets me so erect.

>>389005175
Since I'm just starting, I was going to go Knight mode, but should I go full Merc to get the full Ace effect? I'm playing on Hard on my first play-through.

>>389004313
This, I recommend it to. It implements the AH combat mode but you're not forced in any way to use it. Like the anon said, get the "+" version as it has some added content, like Amiibo support. I got it cheap off of Amazon. Or CFW your 3DS, very easy these days.

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>>388996769
>Why is it called holy trinity?
This image.

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>>389005290
I think the game is worth doing multiple runs, if you are just doing one to blow through though then do whatever feels right to you RPG style. If Knight suits you then go for it.

>>389005290
The only real gameplay difference is the amount of credits earned/access to more planes But >needing anything other than the eagle
Storywise you get to face different squads + different radio chatter

>>389005501
>ACX not above God tier (although still below Holy Trinity tier)
Fake and gay.

>>389005290
Go whatever route you want. 0 is something you replay several times. Be warned that Merc has some pretty tough fights.

>>389005594
I plan on doing 0 again to unlock all the aircraft. Just wanted to jump on 3JP immediately after, then I'm caught up on the series, minus AC6. I don't know anyone that has a 360 anymore, everyone's broke and they no longer want to replace them.
I was going to max out AC5 but with Zero looking to have more content, jumping right in.

>>389003965
I really hope AC7's Multiplayer is a better version of Infinity. I enjoyed playing with /v/ 2 years ago. Lots of waifu planes witnessed.

>>389005730
I think I might save Merc for Ace difficulty then. Go all in.
>>389005625
Eagle as in the F-15? Any particular variant? I'm an F-14 fag, so I tend to use that more, once I unlock it that is.

>>389005746
I'd argue that 0 is more worth your time for unlocks and replays. 5 is great for the story run though, but 0 rewards you more for multiple playthroughs.

Also it has ace battles out the ass, great soundtrack, fun super weapon fights, emotional final boss fight, deepest loee both because it is a prequel and all the rotoscoped ace interview segments, and of the trinity it has the most planes/variants IIRC.

>>389006409
Ohhh a top gun guy over here. I prefer Su in Ace games. You can work your way up to the 47 through that stupid sexy Su-37 terminator.

>>389006409
>Eagle as in the F-15?
Well the other eagle over there is the Golden Eagle and everyone calls that one Berkut so yeah.
Thing about the Eagle is that it is the canon plane for Cipher, nothing intrinsically bad about using whatever you please.
Speaking of...
>>389006628
I see you are a gentleman of elevated tastes and culture as well
>No slav canonplane since AC2
FUCK YOU SCAMCO

>>389006628
Yeah Top Gun was my childhood movie, used to watch it over and over as a kid. The F-14 was all over the place in the 80s, and the advanced
Used to play Afterburner cabs often, when we had a good Arcade. The F-14 hyper nostalgic.

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>>389007149
Nothing deserves that end.

>>389007149
The advanced what?
THE ADVANCED WHAT, ANON?

>>389007439
I fucked that up. I meant the Advanced Cabinet of Afterburner. That shit was so cool. It was a good moment when I had the high score for the whole summer til they reset it. Quarters used to mean something.

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>>389006902
>No slav canonplane since AC2

>G: Each Ace Combat has a “poster plane.” Which would you say is the aircraft that represents this game the most?
>KK: Maybe the F-22, it’s a good iconic plane to represent a numbered game of the series, even if I personally like the Flanker more.

;__;

>>389007654
In AC4, what maneuver did the Yellows do to turn on a dime? It looked as if they went vertical and flipped around. They did it every time you fired a missile at them.

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>>389007654
Maybe one day they'll meet you halfway and use a slav plane that looks like an F-22.

>>389008251
The Cobra maneuver:
http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/Pugachev%27s_Cobra

>>389008251
I thinks it's called the cobra maneuver.

>>389006902
>I see you are a gentleman of elevated tastes and culture as well
It always amuses me how even amongst the cesspool that is /v/ there are fan groups that are so casually polite to each other. Other games like Souls don't have that same sense of camaraderie, I think something about being fans of an older series with a smaller fanbase just makes people more friendly.

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>>389008927

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>>389008418
Speaking about raptor lookalikes:
How come PA havent even showed the ATD-X yet? You'd think they'd be shilling the thing nonstop, muh NIPPON BANZAI and all that

>>389008927
Or I could have just said "good taste man" and have the same effect
a.k.a. It's a meme you dip

did pixie do anything wrong

LONG LIVE THE YUKTOBANIA

>>389002384
>DCS
>Ace Combat

>Ace Combat + Full Fidelity cockpits

>>389009537
Well, he was going to bomb the shit out of everything.
That's not a very justifiable gesture.

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>>389009537
No

>>389009625
>Ace Combat + Full Fidelity cockpits
For "full fidelity" you mean "push buttons for 5 minutes" autism?
Otherwise for what we've seen AC7's cockpits are really fucking detailed

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ace combat 4 was fucking amazing. I actually bought the game for my cousin who was visiting from california. 2 or 3 years later I went to California with my family to visit and I stayed at his house for 2 weeks. I got really sick so I stayed at his house while everyone went to California Disney and I literally found his AC4 game.That fucking faggot never played it so I started to play it and the story was freaking amazing. I loved the movie and the cut scenes. I loved how the kid told the story from the Erusean side and how the player was the ace pilot from ISAF. I loved the guitar music. That game literally made me an ace combat fan. I stole the game when I left to Florida. my cousin can suck my dick

>>389009789
>For "full fidelity" you mean "push buttons for 5 minutes" autism?
Yes.
I still want it.

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>>388995448

>>389009038
Been visiting /h/ I see.

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>>389010075
>

>>389010075
Always thought it was weird how they reverted to 1940s Germany.

>>389009808
>>389010075
>>389010248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL8-5AlGJFQ

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>>389010075
>>389010248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2WS_pQJ3NI

I hope you lads are good and ready to splas some erusean fucking shits in 7

Stop making me want to play these games again
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
I will just bite the bullet already.

>>389010840
fuck you faggot, hopefully Erusia slaughters OSEA's ass
fuck you faggot FREE ERUSEA

I've only played 5 and zero and let me tell you

those games are fucking incredible. 5 is my fav.

Ac4 is overrated and nowhere near as good as 5,0, or 6

>>389010840
Why didn't Osea just build the space elevator in their own territory? Erusia did nothing wrong.

>>389000863
They weren't timed

>>388995448
Avoid assault horizon at all costs. I bought it for 6 bucks and i still regret buying it. They really fucked the dog with that fucking on rails dogfight shit.

>>389011893
I'll say this for the DFM, it was cinematic. The twists and turns around buildings while your machine gun rips chunks off of their plane. It was just also retarded and not fun to play.

>>389011893
I honestly have no idea what Dogfight Mode looks like and I haven't looked up any videos. Is it just like forced jousting on rails where the planes fly straight at each other or something?

>>389013274
It's basically the fighter plane version of iron sights.

>>389013274
No plane jousting was the final fight in 0, it is emotional, the music gets you harder than granite, and the gameplay is intense.

DFM is nothing like it, you just get behind someone then enter QTE mode.

>>389013274
You fly close to an enemy plane and when a circle appears you hit the bumpers on the controller. It's like the auto-aim function in FPSs if you dialed it up to eleven.

>>389013471
Like in the 3DS remake of 2? Kinda gay. I can kinda understand doing that in the 3DS game because the rest of the game was still good, but shit man. Pressing a QTE to teleport behind a dude is kinda shit.

>>389010075
So did Narrator-kun and pub daughter fug?

>>389013827
Yes, he's married too.

>>389013579
No, because in the 3DS remake they HEAVILY toned it down and gave you more control over it.

In Assault Horizon that shit is fucking MANDATORY to shoot down enemy AI otherwise they pull perfect evades and heat flares.

>>389013925
Now THAT is some gay shit. At least on Ace difficulty on the 3DS when you go behind them you still gotta aim because they get twitchy as shit and will dodge your rockets 8 times out of 10.

What the hell were they thinking

>>389003892
>CLIMAX
They got that right.

>>389014036
They were thinking
>we want the CoD audience

>There are people in this thread who are willing to burn down Osea.
I feel disgusted that I share the same board with these sick fucks.

>>389014036
They also threw in an Ac-130 mission and some bullshit helicopter missions as well. It was never a game designed to make the fan base happy. It was a grab for a new younger market of kids who play COD or other such "Cinematic" games.

>>389005501
You realize ace combat 3 is both in the unspeakable tier and the god tier, right?

>>389002741
surely you jest

>>389014781
us and jp versions

AC Thread? Good.
How do I select the other colors in Ace Combat Zero, i'm pressing everything in the plane select and nothing is changing the colors. I've killed named pilots and seen "Color unlocked" too.

>>389014781
US version in unspeakable
JP version in god

US version cut a lot of shit out.

>>389014961
>>389015082
tell me more

>>389014781
>he didn't played the jp version
I only feel sadness for you. I had the luck of a good childhood friend

>>389015118
The jp version had a branching story line and a lot of dialogue and background
the u.s. version cut out most of this.

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>>389014781
Yes, one of them has only 32 linear missions with no real story or any cutscenes at all, while the other has fully animated cutscenes and dialogue to go with a branching story that hosts 52(?) missions with 5 differerent endings

>>389015176
I've only played shattered skies and loved it.

>>389015207
don't forget they discarded LOTS of missions and called it a day

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I got the English patch for AC3 running on epsxe, but I'm wondering if anyone knows a way to get this bad boy working with it.
I've spent three days trying to set up profiles and bind controls.

>>389005501
Hasn't infinty been out long enough to pass judgement on?

>>389015074
Select button, i'm sure

>>389015074
It's select, but those messages of colour unlocked only apply to specific planes.

You should check out Sky Crawlers if you have a wii. It's basically Ace Combat anime edition. Not as good as the holy trinity but still fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bqATAerPxM

>>389016438
>>389016567
Thanks, strange it wasn't working.

Pixie killed some named pilots, does that still count to the unlock?

>>389018009
No

>>389018415
...Fuck
So best to have him just cover me to make it not as aggressive?

>>389014902
Nope. Watch the video in >>389002317's post. There are a few points where the HUD says "Light Damage", "Heavy Damage", or "Critical Damage" (complete with BLOODY SCREEN SO REAL) and then it disappears after a while.

>>389008927

Because there's no official PC release

Anyone else in the thread play Vector Thrust? I'm curious about how well-known it is among AC fans.

>>389022791
it had great potential, but it was a letdown due to lack of updates and the dev went into hiding

>>388996450

>5 and Zero emulate near flawlessly

Since when? Last I checked you couldn't even run the game at higher resolution without black bars all over the screen or clipping through the ground. I'll be glad if this is the case though.

>>389023575
The latest beta pcsx2 version correct everything, you just have to check one or two boxes in the settings.

>>389023693

Fuck yes.

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>>389023575
I've been playing them over the last few days, only 4 had any issues. I'm using a nightly build from a few days ago.
Just using these settings and its great, and could probably go higher.
I think enabling cheats w/ widescreen hacks also helps. Setting ingame settings to 16;9 might help too.
Go for it, I'm emulating on a laptop too. I'm sure a good rig can really make it amazing.

The only games I've been having problems running lately is the Champions of Norrath.

>>388996769
1 is barebones as fuck
2 is ok
3 got gutted when it was localized, aparently the Japanese version is great, but we only got one of the two disks localized

04, 5 and zero are amazing once they get going

6 is a 360 exclusive and it's good

AH is shit
AH on 3ds is a stealth remake of 2

X is great for a portable game, xx is only good in co-op mode

>>389023846

Sweet, thanks for the settings.

>>389023081
That's pretty much my opinion as well. I'm still trying to learn the editor, though. Maybe it can get some exposure if more people make stuff for it. It plays just like AC, but it needs more campaigns.

>>389023575
Since like last November anon. Where have you been?

>>389025514
To be fair, that's not *that* long ago, especially if you weren't following the emulation scene.

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>no ps4
>no xbone
>pc isnt good enough to run ac7 in all its glory

>>389027321
>Have PS4
>Not pro
>Debate getting a pro just so I can see AC7 in all it's high fps glory

I just feel I need the whole experience you know?

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Anyone else getting AC7 on both PS4 and PC?

>>389027889
Me

>>389027752
That's silly. You would go for a PC if that were the case.

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ace combat never fails to impress me, especially im a huge fan of the series

>>389028097
i think he wants the feel of the original ace combat where controllers feel like an aircraft control stick

>>389028097
Well I can almost sort of afford a PS4 pro, I can't drop like 800 bucks on a rig to play most modern games flawlessly.

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Ace Combat 7 Hype

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>>389028392
Save. Get AC7 on the PS4 then in a year or two build a PC, grab it in the steam sale and play in 8K 120 FPS.

>>389028282
That image is too silly.

I appreciate that so many people want to play these games but can we please just get a sticky with an F-22 that says "PLAY 4, 5 AND 0!"

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>>389028587
could be more silly

>>389028546
Respectable idea. Was planning planning on building a PC sooner or later, so I guess this is as good a chance as any to kick myself into gear.

>>389028380
>i think he wants the feel of the original ace combat where controllers feel like an aircraft control stick

There is no reason to use a mouse and keyboard when you have a PC. He already has a perfectly functional PS4 controller and those work on PC.