Sonic Mania is literally the best game in the series. Prove me wrong.

>>388975548
crack?

Hello? Is this thing on?

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Denuvo

BAMM OOOOHHHH PROVED WRONG LIKE THE LITTLE BITCH YOU ARE OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WRONG ON THE INTERNET THAT SHIT IS HERE FOREVER OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Shitty ending
S3&K and even Sonic 2 had better final bosses.

>>388975708
Is there anyone there?

>>388975795
Am i all alone?

>>388975548
>Tails got buffed
>Knuckles got nerfed
>B L U E S P H E R E

2D yes, easily. Nothing comes close to its level design.

>>388975548
Anybody got a rip of the FLAC soundtrack yet? there's a lot of mp3s but something as good as this deserves lossless format.

>>388975778
Sonic 2 had the best final boss of the series though.

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>>388975961
>>B L U E S P H E R E

>>388975548
>What is Sonic 2

>>388978779
This game shits on 2 amd 3

>>388975548
Sonic Unleashed exists

>>388975548
It comes close but the finale in S3&K can't be topped

>>388975548
Sonic 2 is still my favorite, but Mania easily takes the number 2 spot for me. It's close though, Mania level design is very creative at points.

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>>388975548

>buying or supporting anything from the denuvo loving lying kikes at SEGA
Fuck SEGA and fuck taxman for working with them.

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I wouldn't know

>>388975764
winston lay off the pb
winston pls

>>388979196
fpbp

if only they didnt have the stupid fucking blue orb minigame from Sonic 3, would have been perfect, literally any other minigame from the older games would have been a better choice, the rotating maze stages from sonic 1, the ring chases from sonic 2, fucking anything else, the ufo chase is fun though

Sonic 2 and S3&K had better endgames.

>>388980283
nah the rotating stage from 1 sucked and the halfpipe requires memorizing the levels which is annoying

>>388979869
I dont have this error on my console :)

>>388979869
they patched it out already

>>388981313
No they fucking didn't, I took that screenshot today
They lied and you dipshits believed them without proof

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>>388975548
>Tails is even more broken
>Knuckles still sucks
>Final stage and boss(es) feel incredibly weak to the buildup S2 and S3 had
>Steals 8/12 stages from previous games rather than something original (MANIA TEAM TOO FAR)
>Glitchy
>Denuvo on PC version
I love Mania to death, but come on now.

>>388981505
Update the game and restart steam in offline mode it works

>>388981183
I'd tell you to fuck off, but this does motivate people to pirate this release more than outright spelling everything wrong with it. Keep it up.

>>388979196
Over half the game is trash

>>388981581
It does not, I literally just did that

>>388981554
This is true. I really hope in the sequel, they go the opposite direction and make mostly new stages with only 4 stages from older games. The new stages were really good so the talent is there. I guess the issue is just time.

Also, final true boss is suck

>>388975548
When it start having original zones that are not borrow from other installments. FUCK YOU

>>388981695
Sonic Unleashed is not only the best Sonic game but the best game ever made. No other game has as much weight in its atmosphere. Although Press Garden Act 2 does feel like Chun Nan and Holoska Night but with day lighting, its a damn good level

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>>388982224

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>>388979869
Posting online how your game doesn't work if you're offline.
idiot

>>388982224
Visually speaking you're right, Unleashed is easily one of the most beautiful 7th gen games. People get too caught up on half the game being trash and ignore that.

>>388982389
It's called a phone dipshit

>>388975548
Sonic CD levels are in it, therefore it is under S3K.

>>388977105
>Wait slowly for him to land or else risk your luck on the spikes
>the best

>>388975941
I need a bigger gun

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>>388981313
umm

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>>388982451
browsing on a phone

>>388982905

>Game can be played offline

Pretty sure 99.9% of Sonic fans don't ever leave the house let alone be without internet.

Why is this a big deal again?

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>>388981505
It works fine for me, I've been playing offline since yesterday now.

>>388982905
https://twitter.com/SEGA_Europe/status/902901749828255748
Also ""bug".

https://www.facebook com/SEGA/posts/10155636608246796
And this one is just funny to me: "We’ve looked into the DRM complaints and can confirm this was not the cause of the problem."

>>388983036
Glad you have no argument retard

>>388977105
That's not Big Hand though...

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>>388975548
>no super sonic chasing giant eggrobot in space
>no flickies for tails
>drm
>eggman in a gimp suit as a final boss

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>>388975548
>too many blue sphere levels
they could've add sonic 1 or sonic 2 special stages while they were at it

>>388983320
I rather like the gimp suit. I just wish the fight was an actual gauntlet between Robotnik and the Heavies instead of ending when eggman is dead. Also, is there a true ending?

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>>388975548
Sonic 2 exists.

>>388983538
Damn, this picture is based

>>388983538
Sadly

Anybody release an fov mod yet?

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>>388975548
>denuvo

>>388983521
You get a second final boss and ending if you beat the final boss with Sonic and all 7 emeralds, if that's what you mean.

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>>388983770
I guess. Sega of America seemed to think Robotnik should be portrayed as some sort of demonic monstrosity.

Game lost steam for me at Metallic Madness. The background/foreground gimmick was nice but it should've been used in a stage that was actually good. Titanic Monarch is cool until Act 2, then I just wanted the fucker to be over

S&K regular last boss and Doomsday Zone are still the best ending bossfights in the series

>>388975548
It can't be because it uses elements from past games, like stages and music, that means that the game relies on older games to be good

>>388984219
Egg Dragoon, Perfect Dark Gaia

>>388983507
I can do the mazes.
I can do the blue sphere stages.
But FUCK the halfpipe.

>>388976673
>2D yes
Are you implying any of the 3D ones are better?

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How can they have a giant robot like this and not have it be the final boss?

>>388985201

because that would be going too far for mr. Iizuka's liking

>>388985201
this, I expected >>388983320 but better

For me, it's second best behind Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I think Mania is fantastic and an excellent game, and there is a lot it does better than 3&K. Almost every boss fight of Mania is a whole world of goodness better; bonus rings are better tucked away, so you have the exploration aspect of CD right there when you're ready to search, but not at all in an obnoxious way like CD's level design near forces; and almost every stage gimmick is initiative and fun to utilize, never things you'd rather avoid. But although it does a lot of things better than 3&K, that's not to say 3&K did those things wrong. In fact, 3&K does almost nothing wrong and is consistently excellent, whereas I think Mania drops the ball at the very end for a disappointingly weak finish. Titanic Monarch's second act is a slog to play through, and it lacks the upbeat yet finale sounding music that all the other final zones have. Death Egg, Scrap Brain, Metropolis and Metal Madness all blow it out. And I could forgive a weak final zone if the final boss was still great, but Titanic Monarch's boss is such a letdown. It's even worse to me than CD's, on the ground that at least CD's can be over with quickly. Then there is the super fight, which I think was a cool concept on paper (threeway fight in a trippy dimension), but was handled in such a boring way. Not checking the high speed chase or multiple phase boxes that Doomsday Zone did. With 3&K, my excitement only mounts as I draw nearer to the end of the game; but with Mania, I do not look forward to what happens after Metal Madness. So that's why I prefer 3&K, but I really do think Mania is an excellent game.

>>388979196
Anon, i loved Sonic unleashed, even the werehog levels but its nowhere NEAR the best sonic game.

>>388985201
Forces

I just got a 31 MB patch, what does it do?

>>388985848
How did this meme even start?

>>388984219
this post is shit. metallic madness is the best zone in the game.

>>388987821
Either Iizuka or Taxman said he would be overseeing them so they wouldn't go too far in some interview.

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>>388985201
There's evidence to suggest they had more planned but they just couldn't do it from not having the time to. There's unused tiles in the final boss room and 4 boss battles randomly stitched into eggman's battle that don't really make sense that they behave as advanced as they do for how small of a window you get to fight them.

We'll have to wait for the sequel for them to pull out the big finale they probably wanted to do.

>>388987821

During an interview, one of the Mania lads said something like Mr Japname keeps an eye on us and makes sure we don't go too far

What if Mania 2 does get released but it's an adaption of Archie's Sonic Mega Drive comic?

>>388988098

it would be shit and I'd hold you responsible *draws blade halfway warningly*

>>388988098
Oh boy an adaptation of an arc from years ago in a comic that was cancelled

>>388987970
That makes sense. I was wondering what the point of hitting the Heavies was, considering you get booted back to the main battle shortly after they attack.

>>388988212
'tis merely a hypothetical, dear anon.

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>>388987970
>use the debug level select
>select Egg Reverie
>uses the "unfinished Death Egg" icon

feels bad

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>fuck up the physics, making the game 10x worse than the original
>"9/10 great game"

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>>388988434
>actual new game that has no business trying to emulate older ones
>muh physics reeeeeee

>>388985201
It will be a major in Forces

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>Not ONE "TURN IT UP, GET DOWN" found in the fucking game

WHY, TEE?

WHY

>>388988591
I doubt the Hardboiled Heavies are even going to be in Forces at all.

>>388983075
Only classicfags don't leave their house. Which is why they have so much time to bitch about Sonic for 10 years.

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>>388987970
A guy claiming to be one of the devs was talking about this in a thread a couple of weeks back. They said it was time constraints, along with mentioning 4 cut zones. Apparently the game was made in something stupid like 10 months.
still the best Sonic game hands down.

>>388988539
Literally every Zone in this game is themeically taken from an older game

>>388988770
people need to stop bringing up that post. there's nothing at all to suggest it was legit

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>>388975548
The build up you get from Lava Reef > Hidden Palace > Sky Sanctuary al the way up the Death Egg is just too hard to beat. Not only that, but for some reason Mania dropped stage transitions halfway through the game. It's a fantastic game, but i don't think it's as good as 3&K. it's equal at best.

>>388988539
>>has no business trying to emulate older ones
nani?

>>388988770

Confirmed on twitter to not be them.

>>388988683
They are in forces
they just changed their appearce into Shadow, Chaos, Zavok.
Look the trailer and you will see that Chaos is Glitchy in the scene

>>388988662
Plenty of Hues at least

>>388988939
If we find out how long the game took to develop, and it matches, it's basically a confirmation.
Has anyone asked Christian Whitehead or any of the other devs how long development was? Twitter or something. I'd ask, but I'm not making a twitter to ask a single question.

>>388989104
reaching hard there. see you in november.

>>388989078
link

>>388989298

Sec, let me dig it up.

Mania can't hide its fanmade status. The problem with fanmade games is that they're generally made by and for people who are incredibly familiar with the franchise, so they aren't super friendly to new players. Mania suffers from that in places.

>>388975548
Why would I try? It takes the gameplay if the previous best game in the series, and puts it in better-designed levels. Mania is the Sonic we always deserved. The ONLY thing wrong with it is the fact that it has so many remixed levels instead of all being brand new content, but that's easily forgivable, when they remixed the classics so thoroughly.

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Some of the cut content

>>388988842
So every game that pays homage to older entries must play exactly like them?

It's not a remake unlike Crash. That shows how unreasonable this fanbase is compared to the others.

>>388989380
I noticed this, but in a different way from you. I don't think the game is hard, but it does do some outdated things just because the Genesis games did them. Blue Sphere is kinda broken, and lives are really a relic of the past. There's no point to them nowadays. Just dock the player's score or something.

>>388983259
it's called reverse tethering retard

>>388989687
For what purpose? How long could it possibly take to add in an animation that was already made?

>>388985201
It looks like Heavy King was originally meant to transform into that, but the plans were changed when they had to tie the game into Forces.

>>388989687
I really have to wonder if thats cut or just a bug, because you can call the sprite in game and it will work fine if you mess with cheat engine a bit.

>>388989836
I feel like that was a mistake & they'll readd it in a patch.

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>>388983507
TRIGGERED

>>388989836
Sometimes things are cut because people on dev teams find it weird/unfitting.

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>>388975548
you are LITERALLY a literal faggot. literally. prove me wrong.

>>388989687
I'm guessing the weren't happy with the animation or had some Sega Japan person see it and freak out that Tails shouldn't use his tails like that.

>>388990245
>>388989687
>troo frar

>>388989836
>>388989915
Tails looks up when the goo falls on Sonic. They probably just forgot to make the game check if Tails is the partner character.

>>388990245
It does look weird.

>>388989687
They should add left animation for Mirage Saloon (Heat)

>>388990450
god forbid we have cartoon characters doing cartoony things

i don't like iizuka

>>388989346

Waiting.

Nah, Sonic 2 had it beat all the way back in 1992.

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>>388975661

>>388990592
Cartoony things are fine, it's just weird how his tails extend so far.

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>>388987970
>We'll have to wait for the sequel for them to pull out the big finale they probably wanted to do.
>mfw Sonic Mania & Knuckles

>>388983538
Sonic 2's the worst of the classic sonics though.

>>388991770
Eat shit. CD and 1 are tied for worst

>>388989380
> so they aren't super friendly to new players
What do you mean? I've never played a sonic game before and I beat mania without too many problems and I loved it

>>388975548
Earlier Classic games weren't made of 90% recycled content from better games.

>>388979196
And?

>>388977105
Biolizard would like a word with you.

>>388992246
(You)

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Why isn't this in the game?

>>388992461
Where did you find these sprites?

>>388992461
Not canon.

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>>388992461
>Tails and Knuckles like Amy

>>388992568
http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=37127
Also more unused stuff were found there.

>>388984219
Titanic Monarch gets better on repeat playthroughs.

>>388975548
Generally agree.
I think I still like Sonic 2 better with the exception of Metropolis Zone 1-2-3.

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>>388975548
>Denuvo

>>388992849
Well there goes another meme that gets way too much overexposure.

>>388975764
Get FUCKED piracyfags

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>>388992461

>>388989884
>they had to tie the game into Forces
wait what

What returning zones do you want in Mania 2?

>>388993997
None.

>>388993997
Mystic Cave. That's the only zone I want.

>>388993909
the goddamn true ending of sonic mania links to sonic forces did you even play the game?

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>>388993997
I want them all to be original zones but if Sega really has to force older zones again which they probably will if Mania gets a sequel, then:
Star Light Zone
Aquatic Ruin Zone
Mystic Cave Zone
Tidal Tempest Zone
Quartz Quadrant
IceCap Zone
Launch Base Zone
Mushroom Hill Zone

Also I want Tee to finish that cover/remix of Angel Island Zone, just hearing the beginning is such a dick tease to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBXFbqgIfTY

>>388991503
>Sonic Mania & Forces OC Donut Steel

>>388993997
None, or at least reimagined GG/SMS zones.

>>388994264
>true ending of sonic mania links to sonic forces
how so? I've seen little of Forces so far

>>388994987
the warp at the end of the true ending is to show how classic sonic joins up with modern/donut steel in the present.

The gem makes the same sound infinite makes whenever he uses an ability in forces cutscenes.

The bonus boss theme is also part of a sonic forces song.

>>388994841
I doubt Iizuka will allow them to use GG zones because it's not iconic enough. (For the mainstream)

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>>388992461
>sonic hates every ship
what did they mean by this

>>388975661
When you get a job.

The more I play it the less I like it

>Hit or miss
>Majority of boss fights feel like they are trying to be 3D sonic bosses.
>To many auto sonic sections

>>388993997
Marina Madness, because this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyK-FrmC1QQ&list=PL6akIKaXBeU13h6MrT07U8hxVt1J5S-Vr&index=31

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Is cutscene Eggman the best character in the game?

>>388982659
>not killing him before he takes off
Pleb

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Guess who

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>>388992246
Neither is Mania.

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>>388996163
So smooth

>>388996163
>dat gay pregnant dog

>>388992246
Sure they were.
They all used the same engine. Many enemies were just reskins of older ones. Lots of mechanics are re-used. Etc.

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>amy and metal sonic were going to be playable

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>>388975548
I wouldn't know, I was going to buy it on steam when it unlocked but got denuvoed

>>388982389
That's not the point you faggot

>>388996464
There's no proof of that.

>>388996464
TROO FAR

>>388996609
And what do you suppose A and M stand for then?

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It's pretty cool being able to go into the Dev Menu and play the Demo versions of Green Hill & Studiopolis, too bad Studiopolis is pretty prone to crashing & has no music. Also Green Hill just seems to be the final version of it as opposed to the actual Demo version unless I'm forgetting level design changes.

Fuck Oil Ocean. Every Sonic 2 zone fucking sucks except for Chemical Plant

>>388996754
M could've been mighty

>>388996754
Maybe some new characters that were scrapped?

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>Studiopolis act 1 is out in the city
>act 2 is inside the studio

Reminds me too much of the first level of Pulseman which does the exact same thing

>>388996896
Try going into dev sound options and turning streams off and see if that stops the crashing.

It likely wont, as I think the actual signpost for that level is hacked to not play a track while the debug placed one will crash.

>>388997015
>alright, here's a game that's supposed to be a celebration of 2d sonic games on sega genesis, with faithful physics and art
>let's add ocs that happen to have their names begin with the same letter as logical candidates for playable characters xDdD

>>388996992
bad taste

>>388992849
It was SEGA of Europe's call

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>that casual filter right at the end of the game
shame on the shitty bosses after it

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The only thing the devs did wrong was limiting unlockables to No Save mode and replacing the signpost bonus stages with Blue Sphere.

Still the best game in the series

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>>388997105
That worked, it didn't crash when I beat it & it went back to the title screen like it should have. Also I love how they call the & Knuckles ending the "True End?" in this menu.

>>388998029
>Sonic Forces didn't happen
Good.

>>388997931
There's evidence that Blue Sphere was actually supposed to be the Special Stage instead of just being a Bonus Stage. And that Super Emeralds were going to be a thing.
BUT for all we know those extra graphics could just be leftovers from Sonic 3&K work.
But the graphics were updated to Mania standards so it is a mystery.

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>Nintendo will never recover
I think they went too far in a few places.

>>388975795
we came in?

>>388998464
Isn't this where

Can the men of /v/ take a pic of their crt monitor with scanlines?

>>388994484
Knuckles new spriteset is seriously pitch-perfect.

>those climbing animations
>both up and down
>that top speed

>>388998279
Well just like any other sonic game there's bound to be loads of cut content that never saw completion due to deadines or other reasons.

I'm still hopeful we'll see some kind of content updates in the future.

Second best. 3&K still has some advantages that make it better like zone transitions, better zone and difficulty progression, better climax, better Super Sonic Final Boss, all original zones.

I mean, if you want to be the best piece of shit in a pile of manure, I guess. But why? Sega makes shitty games and always has. They only good game they've ever made was Yakuza, and even that is just a medicore version of Sleeping Dogs/GTA

GET BLUE SPHERES

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>>388989078
why would they confirm it and risk their careers?
fucking idiot. use common sense.

Shut the fuck up you piece of shit. Mania is as good as Sonic Dash.

>>388989346
Still nothing?

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>>388975961
I like bluesphere tho...

>>388975548
No Hyper forms and too few original levels. But other than that it's great.

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>>388999098
wowwwww how was i supposed to know i wasn't supposed to get red spheres

>>388999140
Because they've already answered a lot of questions people have had since the datamining started? Taxman and Stealth have actually been very forthcoming about the development of Mania, moron.

>>388985201
It's the level itself.

SOUNDTRACK WHEN
One that's not a shitty quality youtube rip, I mean

>>388999684
Not him, but you must've not read what that guy is referring to. That's me giving you the benefit of the doubt since that original post basically just chucked Sega under the bus. It was essentially burning bridges when everybody wants the team go continue making Sonic games. Including Sega.

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I'll just keep posting this every now and then until I get a (you)

>MANIA IS AS GOOD AS SONIC DASH
Gonna keep spouting this, mark my words

>>389000126
Zip zoom.

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>>388994987
>>388995146
Not to mention that in the game's data the SFX for the Phantom Ruby are titled RedCube. Also Sonic strikes the same pose in the ending as in the first Forces trailer.

What's the appeal of Blue Sphere?

>>389000616
What don't you like about it?

>a few zones have legitimate transitions
>more zones just have le purple gem zawarudo transitions
>most zones just fade to black and have no transition at all
I was so disappointed.
At least each zone has a transition between the two acts. That's something, I guess. That Stardust Speedway Act 1 to Act 2 transition oh my god

>>388975548
I can't. It's amazing. The Sonic 4 we always deserved.

>>389000715
Nothing, I love it, but I don't know why

>>389000715
Blue sphere wasn't offensive but I don't see why people are ecstatic for its return. I see it as a trail to go through to get an emerald, not something I'd go out of my way to just play.

>>389000787
the only time the gem should have been used to warp the player away was the Stardust Speedway transition
otherwise, it was kind of meh

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>>388996301
>Moebius strip animation exclusive to CD playstyle
I get they're trying to emulate the unused sonic 2, but come on, the moebius strip run looks so much cooler, I don't want to exhange the Drop dash or insta shield for a good running animation. mods when?

>>389001109
They're being worked on.

Will they ever patch the game to give Hydrocity the correct backgrounds? I'm genuinely butthurt about that.

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>zooming around Chemical Plant
>suddenly become embedded in a slope
TAXMAAAAAAN

>>389001109
It's funny, I thought I would prefer the figure 8 running in Mania but it just looked out of place. I actually really like the new animation for when you're really bookin' it.

>>388975548
It's the best official release, but 3 Complete shores up the few shortcomings 3 & Knuckles had to edge out Mania.

>>389001271
What do you mean

>>389001271
it was probably intentional

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>>388975548
If it isn't, it's damn close
My only complaints are:
>There's no actual in-game incentives to do blue spheres, the S3&K ones were great for squeezing out some rings, lives, or shields when you needed some
>Some great features from S3C didn't make it in like Super music replacement and Maximum Control Mode

other than that it's really my ideal Sonic game like holy shit it's fuckin GOOD

>>388982224
Shut the fuck up, Unleashedfag

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>>388975548
It is now but it will surely be BTFO in 2029 by Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles

You are like a child sitting in the garden. Do you like the garden?

>>389001271
The zone bosses are also in opposite order, so it was probably intentional

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>>389001604
I like the D.A. Garden.

>>388995929
>is Eggman the best character in the game?
Yes. This is true for every Sonic piece of media ever.

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>>389001693
>mfw the act one boss

>>389001495

Hydrocity Act 1 has the original Act 2's background, and Act 2 has the original Act 1's background. It really triggers my autism.

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Can someone mod this background back to the game? In the final was just lame curtains.

so what ever happened about those purple rings?

>>389001974
Oh, I ate them.

>>389001974
proven to be a hoax

>>389001802
the fuck does D.A. Garden stand for anyways

>>389001974
fake

>>389001974
The same thing that happened to Nigger Sonic

>>389002068
Disc Audio Garden

>>389001821
Is it better than Rayman Legends?
Doubt.jpg

>>388988662
WORK THAT SUCKA TO DEATH, COME ON!

>>388995929
Seeing him pop up in full scuba gear kinda made me chuckle. I like his tenacity a lot in Mania.

>>388993997

Not Mania 2, Sonic 5.

>>389002160

They couldn't just call it Sound Test?

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Egg Dragoon (Unleashed ver.) is the boss with the best presentation in the whole series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WwTscoGypM

>>388989135
>Plenty of Hues

Bullshit. Only the Metal Sonic fight had hues. The act tracks had no brazilians at all.

>>389002160
I feel dumb now, that explains why it only has the Present & Future songs in CD but not the Past ones.

>>389002370
fuck no

Sonic Mania is as good as Sonic Dash.

>>388975548
denuvo trash

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>>389002280
>going through Hydrocity
>see a crack in the wall
>thought I just saw something move in it
>pay close attention to the next few cracks
>it's fucking eggman in diving gear
>mfw
>reach the boss fight proper
>mfw x10
That entire moment was the greatest part of Mania for me by far

>>388995431
Fuck off Boco you turd

Many relies too much on fanservice. Its original content is good, but not stand-out, with other games like Sonic CD outshining it in the level design department.

Mania has a Save Editor now for those interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5FQ8bGzx10

>>389002650
sonic cd doesnt do one thing better than any other game. 06 is genuinely more fun to 100% than anything in cd you faggot

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>>389002650
quit memeing.

sonic CDs level design is shit and everyone knows it.

>>389002650
(You)

>>388975961
>Knuckles got nerfed
How so? Just started doing time attack with him and he seems good.

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>>388995929
>mfw some people get 7 Chaos emeralds when some of us have none

>>389002770
>levels are nonlinear, designed to be gone back and forth through to search for specific game objects and can be traversed in the past, present, and two futures
Sonic CD's levels were amazing. The only way I could see anybody disagreeing is if they have shit taste of if they just played the levels to the end to get to the goals and only got the good ending by getting the time stones in that dumb minigame instead of doing it the proper way.

>>389002861
something about after you glide. who really gives. fuck though

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>>389002650
>Sonic CD has good level design

>>388993997
I just want Green Hill Zone 10 times followed by Chemical Plant, followed by 20 more copies of Green Hill Zone

>>389002912
git gud, faggot memester

So I have never played Sonic CD. Is it even worth it. I generally like to run through levels and don't care about getting the emeralds often.

>>389003005
Okay, I will admit that was the ONE thing I had to look up in the entire game, and that is bad in how misleading it is, but everything else was fantastic.

>>388995929
This art going out of its way to acknowledge the chaos emerald perspective theory is pretty cute.

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>>389002650
>with other games like Sonic CD outshining it in the level design department.
>Sonic CD

>>389003056
Just pirate the 2011 version and find out

>>389003056
you probably won't like it

>>389003056
It's doesn't sound like it's for you then, CD is basically the parallel sequel to Sonic 1 with it's level design taking a bigger focus on exploration with how you can destroy Generators in the past to get the Good Ending as opposed to 2's approach of it being more fast paced.

>>389003098
What theory

>>389002993
You land and stop but that allows you to instantly charge spindash which is good. The only complaint I have is that his climbing speed feels really slow.

>>389002861
There's an extremely obvious momentum killing delay if you land on the ground after gliding instead of a wall. S3 had something similar but it wasn't nearly as bad

as it stands knuckles is basically just a slower sonic who can't jump high because you can't usually take advantage of gliding with the level design outside of making sure you don't miss upper paths

>>388988539
>actual new game that has no business trying to emulate older ones
Bullshit you fucking nigger
They repeatedly claimed that it was gonna have classic gameplay

I still remember that fucktard Iizuka on a Nintendo Power interview saying "No LPB Physics, Classic Gameplay"

Fuck off you sega dicksucker. Kill yourself nigger.

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>>389002993
Knuckles has always come to a dead stop when landing after a glide.

Also, I fucking hate these things.

>>388988770
>something stupid like 10 months
That's not stupid at all that's almost a year and that's a normal timeframe of development for a fucking 2D game

>>388991970
Eat shit Sonic 1 is the second best after 3K you fucking spindashbabby

>>389003273
the idea that the emeralds always had their modern, cut-diamond shape even in the classic games, but you were just looking at them from the top

it's a pretty bad theory but was sort of prevalent

>>388997754
Holy fuck nobody cares you autist

Should I bother trying to get the emeralds the first time through, or just enjoy a leisure pace and worry about emeralds on another playthrough?

>>389003316
The delay doesn't feel that different from the S3&K one in my opinion

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you can't headbang by pressing up and down, it's trash

>>389003894
Your choice, after you beat the game you can pick & choose any zone you want to replay to get any Emeralds you're missing.

>>389003894
It's better if you don't go for the emeralds your first time, then you can fully appreciate the stages instead of just barrelling through them.
I made it a point to not actively search for Giant Rings on my first playthrough, but still enter them if I happened to stumble upon them. I ended with 4/7 emeralds.

>>389003056
>"I haven't played x game. Is it even worth it?"
I fucking hate you millennial faggots who always do this shit.
Just play the goddamn game(pirate it if you're not sure you'll like it) and find out for yourself you fucking nigger.

>>389004015
You can as Super Sonic

>>389004168
Okay, I'll skip it.

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>>389002980
>limited number of FUTURE and PAST signposts
>levels are designed so something -always- fucks you up just as you're blinking so you lose the time travel

>>389003894
Emeralds make the difficulty a joke and you'll be hearing the Super Sonic theme more than the god-tier normal music which should be fucking illegal
The last special stage is piss easy so I usually just grab the six that matter and hold off on any more emeralds until the last zone

>>389004190
Fuck you that's now what I said

Should Mania 2 go 2.5D or stay sprite based?

>>389004204
>finding a time travel point is a unique and interesting challenge that adds depth to the levels
>this is somehow a bad thing

The only flaw with the time travel was that there was literally no reason to ever go to the future.

>>389004189
oh shit okay


If you gold all the blue spheres will they stop showing up completely?

>>388989687
I was disappointed when I got to chemical plant as tails and they didn't have a special animation, they should patch this back in.

>>389003894
If you're playing the game fresh, you probably won't get them all even if you're trying to.

>>389004015
The new look up sprite is cute at least

>>389004204
>>389004341
also
>limited number of FUTURE and PAST signposts
In the 2011 version at least, you can just back out to the main menu if you fuck up too many times and you start exactly at the zone you left off on, unlike mania where you start at act 1 every time

>>389004341
Right but you can only experiment so much before you have to jump back to the title screen

and it always drove me nuts how once you beat the game you were trapped playing metallic madness

Did the rerelease fix that?

Is anyone having a fucking hard time getting all the Chaos Emeralds?

I hate how I can't re-do the bonus stages. So I'm stuck in Chemical Plant Zone 2 right now with only three emeralds.

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>>389004280
I want it to stay sprite-based personally since I love pixel art in games (especially this game) but I worry it'll either go 2.5D or get hand-drawn animation which I normally would love to see the latter but for Classic Sonic I really don't want either of those.

>>389004204
I don't mind the limited number(after all it would look ugly if there were signposts all over the place) but sometimes they're placed very badly(Tidal Tempest act 1 comes to mind)

And the fact that if you accidentally hit a timepost you have to not run too fast or you'll time travel sucks. A simple button switch(like for example "Press C to disable/enable time travel") would have fixed so much of that fucking shit since if you accidentally grabbed a "Future" signpost you would just be able to disable time travel and just run fast without worrying about time traveling

>>389004381
No idea, I haven't done it yet.

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>>388979869
>has internet to download the game
>but can't get online

Bullshit

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>>389004280
Mania 2 shouldn't happen
Make a new game with a new title with all new zones
Cuphead-tier graphics or get the fuck out

I really hope someone adds the Drop Dash to Sonic 3 Complete

>>388977105
I disagree 100%, honestly not only is Sonic 2's final boss the worst in the series its genuinely one of the worse final bosses in any video game Ive played.

Its literally a pattern. I beat this boss by just writting down its pattern on a sheet of paper amd was able to beat in no problem. Eggman and the robot sonic literally do the same attacks in the same order every time you fight them. Its fucking awful.

>>389004381
No, then they'll just take you to a random one out of the selection

>>389004491
Honestly I don't like how they did special stages from Sonic 2 and onward. Sonic 1 did it perfectly with the player needing to maintain 50 rings by the end of the level so the special stage would show up so you wouldn't have a special stage interrupting you mid level or need to diverge from your path to get to a special stage.

>>388996464
>anyone could literally add sonic panels lines and a final Letter
>"Look this character should have been playable"
ok

>>389004603
Not everyone has stable internet shill

>>389004637
That is every damn video game ever.

>>389004491
Poor baby!

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>>389004637
Maybe, but I had a blast getting up to it as a kid and getting to see more and more of the pattern each time

>finally have his pattern down up until metal sonic shoots from side to side in a ball
>mfw the next time he jumps as a ball he shoots spikes in 6 directions, killing me

>>389004712
What?
No dude that's directly from the game files. As in, the tools are available to extract them and I did it myself. That's the real fucking deal, you tinfoil wearing twat

>>388975764
>someone actually sat down and wrote this

>>388975764
third post best post

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>>389004709
Word. Sonic 1's is also my favorite for that reason.
Just keep the music away from me. It creeps me out.
>>389004797
WAH, let me suck your big fat man titties anon.

>>389004903
yeah I know but we will never have Metal & Amy playable in Mania.
They literally did this on purpose to create a fake Hype for "Mania 2"

>>388989025
Lava reef act 2 is just kinda boring tho, and everything leading to death egg is a one act zone from a gameplay standpoint. so now you have half a game that plays basically the same way every time for narrative reasons. It doesn't hold up.
Death egg itself though is fucking fantastic.

>>389004015
Sonic on 3 is better made than on M.

>>389005105
Take off your tinfoil fedora already

>>388993997
Genocide/cyber city. Almost no official art of it exists, but there's some reference material and supposedly the aesthetic was used in the sonic spinball stage The Machine. Mostly I just love the idea of a 2d sonic stage in a city environment. For that matter, City Escape from sonic 2 and Emerald Coast from adventure 1.

Gameplay mods instead of sprite swaps when?

So what did the update do?
I mean, besides supposedly fixing Denuvo.

>>389004637
>no rings
>two bosses in a row
>no saving
>game over restarts the entire game

no.

>>389004015
Sonic 3 sprite is objective better than 1/2/CD sprite
I wish Mania would have made it's own sprite at least

>>389005360
>gameplay mods
>with denuvo
hah

>>389005360
Soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1njsVHV6ZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrr5Cp3ZOeI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkGMJpbg_IA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBOwKq7m2rI

Why would you want to play a console game on the PC? Playing since the Genesis, I can't even fathom the idea of playing a Sonic game on the computer.

>>389005096
How is the Special Stage music creepy?
Anyways Sonic 1's maze is my favorite too(except for the 3rd special stage..fuck that shit)

Blue Spheres is 2nd face

>>389005479
they made a ton of their own sprites

>>389005554
It sounds like an elegy.
The shifting images of a bird and fish don't help, it's like the cycle of life or some shit.

>>389005551
Gee, let's ignore the fact they had Sonic 1-3 ports on the PC since 2001.

Or you didn't know about that you consolecuck?

>>389004793
You must not play a lot video games. Sure some bosses have patterns but none so blatant as sonic 2's, where its literally the same thing every time

>>389005427
is that supposed to make them good? Sounds even shittier then.

>>389003015

Don't joke, Sega doesn't understand irony.

>>389005519
>cheat engine
that's not really what people mean when they say "mod"

>>389005904
You're bitching about the final bosses having a set pattern when random attacks would be unreasonable given the circumstances. You're an idiot. Wouldn't be surprised if you went and cranked out the game with cheats/save states either.

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>taxman sonic 2 isn't on pc

what the actual fuck

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>>389004628
>s3c last updated in 2013
>creator in the forums said he was done working on it

Now that we got a knuckles-only act in Mania, can we get a tails-only act in Mania 2? Can you imagine what that would be like?

>>389006239
So shitty design is Ok because it masks other shitty design?
Good to know

>>388996163
What the fuck happened to Tails' legs in Spinball?

>>389006549
It would be boring and probably annoying?

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>>389006437

>>389006578
>doesn't deny the cheats claim

that's all I needed lmfao

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>>389006578
>shitty design


Were you just not alive in '92? Sonic 2 is what would happen if you took practically made games around that time great and put as much of it as you could fit onto a cartridge. Half the shit they wanted to do with the game couldn't even be included

>>389006623

I'm sure they could come up with good gameplay for a Tails level.

>>389006549
How about a level where you actually control the Tornado and shoot shit?

It would be a departure from the usual gameplay but hey, it's Tails.

>>389006724
Your argument is that its OK for a boss to be easy because the rest of the game.is hard? How does that make sense?

>>389007165
just going to give this a (You) and go to bed

>>389006549

How about longer cut-scenes (of in-game sprites, not drawings). And dare I say, dialogue (from text, not actual talking)?

>>389007246
Nice counterargument bro
Cause everyone who disagrees with you is just baiting right?