Crudux cruo!

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>MARA MAX 'N' BEER BUX!

THE FESTIVAL OF BLOOD CONTINUES!

Fresh victims for the ever growing army of the undead.

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>>388975385
>EH-HEH-HEH-HEH!

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>>388975291
*loud, painful screaming*

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(autistic screeching)

>>388975291
This game really needs a remake.

Even though the game was pretty shit blood 2 had some choice sound design.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qFMNiI-J_c

Ya need faith for that to work...

>>388976256
I don't think anyone can do it any service.

I LIVE
AGAIN

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>>388975291
>tfw you fire the napalm launcher into like 5 cultists

(proper) modern client when?

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BloodGDX is a pretty good port. If you still want to play it in DOSbox and bought it on Steam or GOG, replace the woefully outdated version of DOSbox included with the game with the latest SVN build to improve performance and reduce bugs dramatically.
http://www.emucr.com/search/label/DOSBox

>>388976256
Nah, it's perfectly fine the way it is.
Stuck in limbo, unsoiled by a remake, hard to get to run on modern systems.
I think its a very dignified fate.
Imagine the gearbox reboot.

>HEY SHITLORDS CALEBS ABOUT TO CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE

>>388976256
One of the things that made this game so appealing were the over-the-top violence of the sprite graphics.

A remake would just ruin it. They should just make a sequel-reboot of it instead, or a "seaboot".

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>>388976256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-RRKvc7D_k
haha

>throws dynamite
>*laughs manically"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhgFfVgdNfk
Name a better user map

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>think extra crispy will be a breeze
>get to the fourth mission, the carnival

>>388977005
>One of the things that made this game so appealing were the over-the-top violence of the sprite graphics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txudYPV4fKs
The violence and screaming worked fine in blood 2, its just that the shitty 3d and poor level design kinda fucked the entire thing

>>388976256
just a good source port will do

>>388976946

Would this let me use a modern Xbox controller?

>>388977275
The guns all felt very weak...they didn't really have any kick other than the shotgun.

The soundtrack was good though. Violence was still better in Blood 1, had more variety.

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>>388977832

>>388977832
Blood is too fast for a controller.

>>388976976
BloodCM is runs perfectly fine on anything and is accurate enough, for what is basically a complete remake. Not the Javascript semi-sourceport the dev decided to work on now instead

>java
>2017

I would rather play the fucking Dosbox version

>>388978318

So...that a no?

I'm playing through this for the first time and I'm trying to figure out how best to control it. At the moment I'm using WASD and mouse aim (horizontal only). Should I bother enabling vertical aim? Should I go full 90s and just use my keyboard?

>>388978572
finished it for the 1st time myself in 2015, with full mouselook. The BUILD engine's 3D enough to warrant using it.

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>>388978450
Blood has full controller support and with the deadzone lowered a bit though external software, works just fine with a 360 controller.

>>388978572
Unlike Doom this game was built with vertical aiming in mind. You can still play with horizontal camera movement only but you will be limited when it comes to aiming your dynamite and other similar things. Get bmouse if you're playing on dosbox.

>>388978425
The java version is pretty spot on accuracy wise and runs great

>>388977227
Deathwish, easily.

>>388978907

Using this thing?

>>388976946

>>388978425
bloodcm is trash
dynamite damage and the damage on some of the weapons is broken
>muh java

>>388978907
>1997 PC game has better controller support and customization than games 2 decades later
They don't make 'em like this anymore

I will never understand how people can play this shit in Dosbox.

I've done everything from installing bmouse to trying to play without mouselook altogether but no matter what I do it plays like dogshit.

Mouse always has delay and movement with mouselook (even with bmouse) is extremely imprecise and sluggish.

>>388979151
Using the original setup exe with dosbox.
>>388979218
Its limited to four buttons and double press buttons for 8 total, but that's more of a limitation at the time.

>>388976384
poorfag cant afford dusk roflmao XD

>>388979361
Which version of DOSbox and what specs?

>>388979379

I see...whats a good setup, in your opinion?

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>>388979521
These are my specs.

And it's the version of DOSBox that comes with the game.

Do you know how to make mouse movement better? Because that's literally the only thing keeping me from playing the game.

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>We will never get the source code
>Shitload of shitty remakes claiming to be "accurate" and a bunch of retards unironically recommending them over the original game

Why did it have to end up like this?

>>388979197
Enemy accuracy is even worse, you can mindlessly run and gun through situations that would kill you in seconds in the original game. GDX doesn't have this problem, if anything the enemies might be a little bit too accurate there.

>>388979792
>meming

Nah, BloodGDX is great and accurate. I'm sorry for your autism.

>>388979845
t. manchild dev
Don't you have a javascript homework to finish?

>>388979690
Replace that version of DOSbox with the latest SVN build.
http://www.emucr.com/search/label/DOSBox
The one included with the online store versions was outdated when they were released. Also Bmouse never works well for me, I just don't use vert aiming.

>>388977020
could be better but it looks shit

there is something about the 2d sprites that they look creepy if you put it in 3d it loses all of that

>>388979690
>only i5
There is your problem, you should've bought an i7 if you were really serious about running dosbox games

But seriously, I have the exact same issue, bmouse doesn't seem to change anything, there always seems to be input latency. The java version has it aswell, I'm afraid it's "intended", and we raw input fags have to go fuck ourselves and play the Eduke32 port

>>388980040
Stop calling these shitty mods "ports"

>>388980040
Highly doubt it's my i5.

I can pretty much emulate everything I've thrown at my computer with all the bells and whistles and never have issues. No way Dosbox is more demanding then other forms of emulation.

>>388976256
No, this game is better left untouched. Don't let anyone fuck it up.

>>388980180
BloodGDX is actually a port.

>>388980369
Only kind of

>>388979129
THIS. I just cleared the first episode of Death Wish and HOLY FUCK is it good. I'm ready to get my mind blown again and again in the next two episodes.

>>388980369
Using the old leaked alpha version of the source code, porting it using it fucking java of all things, and a shitload of empirical aproximations to match several months of actual game development and changes is not the same

>>388980040
>i7
You're so full of shit, I played Blood on DOSBox from start to finish without a problem on a Phenom 965.

>>388980581
Plays exactly the same in practice, though. And that's what matters.

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>>388980785
>Plays exactly the same

>>388980863
It really does, or do you have something concrete to point out? If it's such a poor copy surely you can easily tell us the things it got wrong right?

>>388980993
>something concrete to point out?
>>388980581

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>>388980679

>>388981089
That's not pointing out anything concrete, it's just assumptions. Point out the differences between the original and BloodGDX in terms of how it actually plays.

>>388981230
>it's just assumptions
How are facts assumptions? Are you fucking retarded? Stop shilling your shit here faggot

>>388981230
Don't argue with purists, they will never fucking listen.

This is coming from someone who is balls deep in the DOOM community.

>>388980863
Yup, it does. It's actually an improvement if anything.

>>388981317
The assumption is that the approximations are incorrect to any significant extent, which is wrong. Otherwise you'd be able to demonstrate the problems easily, but you ain't got shit.

>>388981350
Shilling GDX is almost the same as shilling Brutal Doom as the only way to play DOOM

>>388981615
THERE IS NO SOURCE CODE
NO SOURCE CODE
YOU CANNOT MAKE A SOURCE PORT WITHOUT THE SOURCE

WHICH PART OF """SOURCE""" DON'T YOU GET?!? YOU UNEDUCATED SHITLORD

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>only a few more years and those kikes at Atari lose the rights
Hope those faggots burn in hell

>>388981769
Oh I know it's not a source port, I never said it is. All I said is that it's spot on, it plays exactly like the original game in pretty much every way.

>>388979639
KB+M

>>388981907
It's inaccurate by default
On top of being written in a trash language

>>388981992
If there are any inaccuracies they are so insignificant that even speedrunners won't notice. Most official ports have more inaccuracies than GDX.

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>>388982128

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>>388975291
STILLUXUS NOXUS PROPEROX SOURCOX PORTOX

>>388977228
there's a lot of cultists

>>388981350
The people tearing BloodCM apart on /vr/ while providing evidence to back up their claims were purists, this guy's just a shitposter

>>388982828
>I'm getting called out for shilling my java turd here
>Better call him a shitposter
You're just sad

>>388983019
You still haven't showed how blood GDx isn't accurate. Screaming "no source code" isn't an argument.

>>388983019
>deliberately avoiding addressing the actual game in favor of muh java or "b-but it's not a true source port!" shitposting

>>388981663
>blood gdx is a 1:1 replica
>brutal doom is literally a completely different game on every level

Yeah it's exactly the same.

>>388983358
>Not having the only thing that could make your shitty java turd even remoletly accurate is not an argument

>>388983460
>deliberately ignoring the fact that without the source code you cannot fill the holes with shitty guesswork

>>388983761
>you cannot fill the holes with shitty guesswork
That's right you can't, thing is that this was good guesswork that did fill the holes and ended up with an indistinguishable copy. If it's shitty guesswork surely you can point out at least one example of inaccurate behaviour?

>>388983761
>conceding

It wasn't so hard was it?

>>388983994
>this was good guesswork
>guesswork
>good

And you fucking shill this shit as "accurate" and a "source port"!?

ZBlood is the most accurate source port guise
IT'S GOOD GUESSWORK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9rw0EgmJos

>>388984108
Yes obviously you can arrive at a correct number using guesswork, especially if you already have a very close number as a basis, you retarded son?

>>388984202
>you can arrive at a correct number using guesswork
>you retarded son?
I ask you the same question

>>388983761
He's asking you to name specific situations where the game is inaccurate, which I would personally like to know as I was going to give Blood a shot using BloodGDX.

>>388984448
I don't need to, without the source code there's nothing accurate about any of this

>>388984301
Are you actually implying that it's impossible to correctly guess a number? Utter brainlet. 3

>>388984301
Bloodgdx is so accurate that you can insert a mod is ridiculously complex as deathwish which relied on extensive knowledge and wizardry of the blood code and it runs almost flawlessly.

You have no ducking clue what you're talking about.

https://youtu.be/kHlJOMjon4Y

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>>388975291
>Death Wish has the best designed levels in all of old-school FPS gaming.

Prove me wrong

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slurp... UUUAAGH

>>388984650
Eduke32 can run blood maps
Does that make Eduke32 an accurate source port?
Fucking retard

>turn off autoaim because i'm a cool guy
>spiders and rats become ultimate bullshit

>>388984838
You don't know know anything about death wish do you? You have completely invalidated yourself at this point.

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>>388984763
>The Thing inspired level

>>388984947
Also ZDoom can run BUILD engine maps, I guess that also makes it an accurate source port
Have a last pity (You)

>>388985196
Death wish isn't just a series of maps but keep embarrassing yourself anon.

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Does Blood support 90's VR? I know BUILD had some support for VR headsets of the day with other source releases. Kind of curious how this would play through a VFX-1 or CyberMaxx headset.

>>388984763
Sure, but first tell me what Death Wish is. I never played Blood until a year ago (I was a Doom boy back in the day) so I don't know much about much.

>>388984885
Always save some TNT or Aerosol to clear out swarms. It's not worth trying to shoot the little fucks.

>>388984650
How do you get Deathwish working on it?

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>>388980863
It plays better then the original. It don't care if its true to the original engine.

>>388985567
Just put the folder in the blood directory and you should be able to find it under user episodes on the episode select screen

>>388985567
All you you have to do is make a folder called maps in your root blood directory where bloodgdx is located and exctract all the deatwish files into it, then just select it under user episodes when you boot the game. There's still a few audio glitches and very rare enemy ai bug but other than that it's perfect.

>>388985429
http://www.blood-wiki.org/index.php/Death_Wish

he'll be dropping version 1.4 in October, so you should probably wait.

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>>388985869
>>388985945
Thanks guys, much easier than I thought

>>388985284
doom played with the head movement locked on the y axis so it must be the same, u get a tiny image of what the game is in the flat version like playing any game through vorpx but more shit

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>>388985958
>October
Cute. I suppose I'll have to wait to prove you wrong or not, then.

I definitely like the touch about being able to find logs. The Metroid Prime school of exploration is always of interest to me. As a large-scale consumer of Doom fanwads I'll be interested to see what the Blood community has produced in the same time span.

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What is it about old cult classics that attracts some really obnoxious people? Been reading Duke4 forums today and it's mostly just autistic screeching, who's a bigger purist, which one of the ports is the shittiest etc. Somebody made something? Let's tell him how horrible it is. Extremely negative.

And FFS, all this shit also leaks over to /v/.

Blood is one of my favorite games, you bet I'm fucking glad as shit to have both BloodCM and BloodGDX. Because I actually enjoy playing the game, instead of sperging about how big of a DOS enthusiast I am.

>>388986585
At least it kept the thread afloat I guess

>>388979792
fuck, don't remind me about that manwha too

>MODERN ARTS AND FEAR BOOKS

What did he mean by this?

>>388986585
They want to believe they're part of an elite secret club and feel threatened that someone else who might not have normally been able to enjoy the game now has a means to.

They'd don't actually care about the game itself.

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There's another, possibly the best, port in the making right now, called Blood EX. It's being done by Kaiser, the guy behind Doom 64 EX, Steam versions of Turok 1 & 2 and Powerslave EX.

He's not posting about it anywhere public because he doesn't want the same situation as with Powerslave EX. He will upload it when it's 100% done.

>>388975291
Caleb has a wonderful singing voice.

Any guide on playing this for free? The steam version is fucked and its not going to be giving the original guys any money.

>>388975291
i use Caleb quotes for my phones shit

he says "i got a present for ya" when i get a message. makes people look around and shit, its great

>>388987330
pirate the gog version and use the dosbox launcher

>>388987330
Pirate the GOG version but I still think you should buy it on GOG it's only like 6 bucks. And before you complain that none of the devs are getting money you're still supporting GOG which is one of the last bastions old games like blood can still be distributed, also DRM free.

>>388987465
>I still think you should buy it on GOG
>buy
>on GOG

No.

>>388987274
Anon, Kaiser literally said he's dropping Blood EX around the same time he dropped PowerSlave EX.
It's dead.

>>388987534
Keep leeching then.

>>388987330
Just get BloodCM, it already includes the whole game.

http://m210.duke4.net/index.php/files/download/2-eduke32/38-bloodcm-crossmatching

Simply unpack the archive and run the exe file.

>>388987534
*tips fedora*

>>388987564
Do you have a screencap? He posted a video of Blood EX on his Twitter this year, so I'm assuming it's still being worked on.

>>388987835
Don't have a screencap but it was from few months back on /vr/.

>>388987697
Stop

>>388975534
Marilyn Manson Spielberg

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>>388987330
>neckbeards on /v/ will spend 10 bucks on processed shit at mc donalds but won't spend 5 bucks for a game worth hours of quality entertainment

>>388976256
Will never happen, Atari has the ip firmly under their boot and will probably never allow anyone to touch it.

>>388988593
>reddit letter media
BING BING WAHOOFUCK YOURSELF

>>388988767
No.

that guy ever finish that blood source port?

>>388988593
I only buy games that directly support the people who made them. I sent 60 dollars to carmack and romero each for all of the entertainment they've provided me. Is there a way to contact main developers of blood and drop them a few bucks?

>>388977227
Is this map pack worth a try? Are the levels consistent in their quality?

>>388984763
This is great, I didn't know there were Blood mods.

>>388988767
/a/ has become so contrarian they hate Berserk, and /v/ has become so contrarian they hate RLM. What a time to be alive.

>>388986907
You mean
>MOTHERLAND AND SPEAR BOOKS

>>388988898
Yes, Google Jason Hall, he's the main guy behind Blood, and he still has the source code, he campaigned for its possible release a few years back but the IP holders wouldn't let him

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>Blood is becoming gradually more popular on /v/
p. good timeline if I may say so myself

>>388989124
>Blood is becoming gradually more popular on /v/
>p. good timeline if I may say so myself

Literally the worst thing that can happen to this game.

>>388989038
Thanks anon. Will drop him an email if possible.

>>388988829
I'm currently playing thru it, finished 3 episodes so far, yes, there's some minor glitches, I've encountered the "hall of mirrors" glitch in two maps (basically errors in the 'room over room' rendering code) and there's some minor texture flickering (z-fighting) here and there, but otherwise, it's good. Cutscenes have no sound and the CD audio is not available yet. All of this should be fixed by the end of this year I reckon.

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>>388986907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHlJOMjon4Y


http://www.blood-wiki.org/index.php/Cultist_Language

>>388979792
>>388986715
What is this, is it good?

>An interview with Hyung in Priest: Volume 3 states that the comic was inspired by the computer game Blood by Monolith Productions, which featured a similar horror-Western aesthetic and undead protagonist

I might check this out.

>>388979792
Gayest portrayal of Caleb I've ever seen.

>>388989231
I assume you're talking about Bloodgdx

>the "hall of mirrors" glitch
Are you playing on the latest update? I know this was an issue a while back put it got patched

>>388989124
Blood has always been extremely popular on /v/, among the people who know of it.

>>388989189
Saw a post on /vr/ complaining about "more and more babbies getting into Blood because of BloodGDX". Made me chuckle.

>>388989541
I'm not mad because more people are enjoying the game, I'm mad because the more popular it is the more endless contrarians there will be shitting on it.

>>388989541
>more and more babbies getting into Blood because of BloodGDX

Good, people need to experience it.

>>388989414
Yes, BloodGDX latest (0.774) version. The glitches are in the secret level of the first episode when you fall from the waterfall and in E2M7, in that big 2 floor room.

>>388989414
>>388989720
The hall of mirrors or "room over room" graphics issues have been significantly reduced from earlier versions. They're not all gone, but a shitload have been fixed. I've been testing every version since it first came out.

>>388989878
Where's your accuracy now faggot

>>388989878
Yeah I understand that it's work in progress and will be fixed in the coming months, just sharing my experience is all.

>>388989124
Bloodfags have been a thing on /v/ for a long time. It's actually a bad thing because they've become insufferable over the years, making a great game look worse by acting like huge faggots.

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IM GONNA GETCHA BOI

>>388990340
>shit weapons
>shit level design
>shit enemies
>shit gameplay in general
>GODLIKE SOUNDTRACK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBJYhiAs4Js

Been playing Blood lately for the first time in like, I dunno, 16 years or so.

Now I remember why me and my cousin couldn't get further than a couple of levels without switching to god mode. The enemies are all hit scan, and deal tons of damage with pretty good reaction times. It's possible to get gunned down at full health in seconds. You need to be either really good at shooters or just, you know, save scum and/or memorize the levels. Oh the good old Nintendo Hard difficulty. Flip a switch, the door behind you opens with a couple of cultists unloading their shotguns into you. You either lose 50% of your health, or reload and try again, losing 5-15% instead.

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>>388990486
>shit weapons
some are pretty inventive but not all that useful
>shit level design
it's hit and miss around half are as good as the other build games and the rides again expansion has some amazing levels
>shit enemies
pretty much because its 90% undodgable hitscan and there is no armour
>shit gameplay
I wouldnt really say that as its basically identical to duke minus the jump height (its based on duke code) but there are obvious flaws like the keys all looking the same and being very hard to spot
also I believe it was the first game to ever included a soundtrack of licensed music

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>>388990486
It wasn't bad by 90's budget game standards. There were worse ways to blow 20 bux.

Also, TekWar actually used the BUILD engine before douk made it famous.

>>388990938
Postal 2 is what RR should've been.

>>388991209
RR must be SHIT if Postal 2 of all games is what it should aspire to be.

>>388989297
beware, it has been on hold since the publisher went bankrupt or some shit like that

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>>388991374
Oh. Then I probably shouldn't even bother. I hate it when stories don't have a proper closure.

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>>388991181
tekwar is a pile of shit but I love it anyway
if all the features werent cut it seriously would have been deus ex 1995 edition, some maps have a really nice gritty cyberpunk atmosphere
and progression is fairly non linear, unfortunately if you play it for the first time there is no indication of where to go or whatever to do at all

>>388991607
I was going to make fun of the irony of using a Samurai Jack image for a post like that but then I remembered that Jack actually did end recently. Crazy.

>>388990486
I won't disagree that the levels were awfully designed, especially with stuff like key placements and knowing where the fuck to go. But I will say that many of the levels have a kind of unique charm to them
>that level set during a hurricane with a trailer park and a bowling alley that you could actually bowl in

Also the soundtrack is top tier as you said
>nurture my pig starts playing

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>>388991718
I am happy you understood the joke I was trying to make.

>>388990938
I've heard Rides again was supposed to be much better than the original. How long is the game? I remember dropping the first game after finishing the first of the two episodes having somewhat mixed opinions of it

>>388991715
>tekwar is a pile of shit but I love it anyway
Agree with this 100%. The game is garbage but weirdly charming. The only really bad part is the cyber maze with its shitty puzzles and tunnels.
>if all the features werent cut it seriously would have been deus ex 1995 edition, some maps have a really nice gritty cyberpunk atmosphere
Capstone was grossly incompetent as a developer. All their attempts at TECHNOLOGY were as good as they were going to get in this game. They did figure out how to work 3D CAD software for Chronomaster though, I'll give them that.

>>388992149
haven't played the expansions in a couple of years but I'd say rides again is comparable in length to the main game
the other expansion was a little shorter iirc and not as interesting but it still had its moments the ending is especially cool

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>It's a "loud, unmutable music begins playing upon starting the map" level

>>388992491
ass

I was thinking of building a windows 95 or 486 primarily for dos games. What kind of pic would be top of the line around this games release.

>>388993163
Don't go for Win 95, what you're looking for is the late Win 9x hardware. Basically whatever you can find that still has the driver support for Win 9x. Win 9x includes true native DOS among other things. I'd go with Windows 98 personally, but you can try Windows Me as well.

>>388993486
Thanks. How well does 98 work on an old dell with a pentium 4?

>>388993906
Should work just fine. Pentium 4 was considered a top CPU back in the day. I started with Win 98 + Pentium 3 myself, it was more than enough for 90's games.

>>388994326
thanks.