Post some games that have GOOD puzzles

Six?

>>388963102
No, seven. I'm guessing seven.

111
222
333
444
555
1111
1222

Why did they need to write Flora into the Diabolical Box and Unwound Future if all Layton and Luke do is try to ditch her?

14

6 times
1:11
2:22
3:33
4:44
5:55
11:11

>>388963191
Wait, seventeen.

>>388963204
Also 11:10, 11:11, 11:12, etc

>>388963204
10:00

34

00:00
01:11
02:22
03:33
04:44
05:55
10:00
11:10
11:11
12:22

01:11
02:22
03:33
04:44
05:55
10:00
11:10
11:11
11:12
11:13
11:14
11:15
11:16
11:17
11:18
11:19
12:22

THIS PUZZLE IS FUCKING STUPID

>>388963102
>>388963191


>>388963204
you are missing
10:00

also
AM PM

>>388963427
>Also am pm

Son'bitch. I'm up to 34 times a day.

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1000
1110
1111
1112
1113
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1115
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1117
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1222

17 Times.

>>388963204
You forgot
10:00
12:22

>>388963417
this guy got em all.
Let's move on to a new one now

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>>388963375
>00:00

>>388963510
>>388963483
the genius forgot to double it

>people on /v/ are this fucking stupid that only 1 guy in this thread got the answer

for christ's sake

12:22
01:11
02:22
03:33
04:44
05:55
10:00
11:10
11:11
11:12
11:13
11:15
11:16
11:17
11:18
11:19

32 times

>>388962807
16? does 11:10- 11:19 count as one or ten?

>>388963635
Was it me? 34?

>>388963635
Whatever man so I get 48 picarats. Doesn't matter.

It says in a row though, as in sequentially.

>>388963635

>>388963374

>>388963635
who cares? We got it, let's move on.

111
222
333
444
555
1000
1110
1111
1112
1113
1114
1115
1116
1117
1118
1119
1222

17?

>>388963768
You know, that would totally be a Layton puzzle if it did that.

>>388963859
he has to post the answer from inside the game first is this your first layton thread?

>>388963934
34, because AM and PM.

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>OP is shit at Layton threads
>This is the only puzzle we'll get

Someone else pick it up.

>>388963981
it's the answer. OP's wasting our time having us just sit here

>>388964336
oh my god dude, i'm having so much of my precious time wasted. haha

>>388964129
>>388964336
It's not a Layton thread, I specifically said this thread is to POST games, but you guys went and tried to solve the puzzle instead of talking about video games

>>388964129
Layton threads are way too much work to host.

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>>388962807
12:22 AM, 12:22 PM
1:11 AM, 1:11 PM
2:22 AM, 2:22 PM
3:33 AM, 3:33 PM
4:44 AM, 4:44 PM
5:55 AM, 5:55 PM
10:00 AM, 10:00 PM
11:10 AM, 11:10 PM
11:11 AM, 11:11 PM
11:12 AM, 11:12 PM
11:13 AM, 11:13 PM
11:14 AM, 11:14 PM
11:15 AM, 11:15 PM
11:16 AM, 11:16 PM
11:17 AM, 11:17 PM
11:18 AM, 11:18 PM
11:19 AM, 11:19 PM

34 times

>>388964129
Here's one.

>>388964604
It's impossible

>>388964604
>13 red
>10 blue
Hmm..

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>>388964604
Solved in real time

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>>388964604
I'm the king of back of cereal box mazes.

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>>388964604
easy

>>388965207
Doesn't say you have to pass through all of them.

But it also doesn't say the orbs no longer count after being passed through once, Pac-Man style. It is possible if you work on that logic, though, leaving two red orbs behind.

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>>388965257
>turning around an one of the spots
That's not how it works.

>>388965207
There is no need to pass through each one.


Also, I don't have many of these. Here's one you can save for future threads.

>>388965793
Where on the rules does it say I can't do that? Nowhere. That's simply thinking outside the box.

>>388965793
>15 at the top

Literally baby-tier

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>>388965625
This is right

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well, /v/?

>>388965793
What are the rules of this puzzle? Like what am I supposed to do with it?

>>388962807
infinifactory

0100
0111
0200
0222
0300
0333
0400
0444
0500
0555
0600
0700
0800
0900
1000
1110
1111
1211
1222

These choices x2

>>388962807
111
222
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444
555
1000
1110
1111
1112
1113
1114
1115
1116
1117
1118
1119
1222
answer's 17

>>388966382
Orange hat guy's hand. The numbers are on the upper left of the cards, he can't see them that way.

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>>388965793
Clever girl.

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>>388966382
orange guy is sitting in front of the mirror, his cards would be visible. this one infuriated me the other day

>>388966389
It's a nonogram/Picross. The numbers represent the number of boxes that get filled in with each line. So, the top row has all 15 boxes filled in. The leftmost column has a set of 4 boxes, above a set of 6 boxes.

The other rules is that one empty black box must separate any two sets up numbers, and that the numbers are in order. That is, the 4,6 in the leftmost column means that there is a set of 4 blocks above a set of 6 blocks.

Some nonograms include multiple colors and so don't use the empty box rule, but with a simple one like this, only one color is used and so there will always be an empty box between separate numbers.

>>388966382
The picture in the back, someone doesn't know how to paint a picture.

>>388966876
WHAT MIRROR

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>>388965793
Thanks, Twilight Princess picross

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>>388965793
>>388966707
>>388967008

>>388966876
Total losses:
$20 in change, given to the woman.
$50 bill, given to the clerk next door.
One pair of shoes. (the ones sold for $30)

The shoe store clerk is out $70 in total cash. They're also out one pair of shoes, as well. Unless this is a Laytonism of "they're not out anything because they called the cops and got everything back from the woman" or some bullshit.

>>388966687
This here's the answer.

>>388966876
50$. He had 30$ left after giving the woman her change, only had 20$ to give back from his own pocket. So that 20$ plus the value of the shoes.

>>388966680
>one day
fuck, 33

>>388967262
>answer is completely wrong
>"seemed pretty simple"

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Old school is best school.

>>388962807
22?

>>388967397
A broke the window, B and C are lying, D is telling the truth.

>>388967397
has to be A

>>388967397
Guess randomly until you win - there's only 4 options

Fuck I'm smart

>>388967397
B is lying, which means he didn't break the glass.
D is telling the truth, since B didn't break the glass, so they didn't do it.

Knowing kids, it's entirely possible that C broke the glass and A ended up doing something completely unrelated, like taking a shit on your back porch.

>>388967397
It's A, just look at his cunt face. Also, B, C and can't have broken it that would mean they're telling the truth.

>>388967601
>>388967643

But how do you know?

>>388967880
C didnt break the window because if he did then his statement would've been truthful, therefore it breaks the rule that the kid that broke the rule is lying. same goes for B and D

>>388964023
No its not military time.

>>388968125
>the kid that broke the window is lying
fucking hell I cant type today

>>388967880
If B did it, he'd be lying by saying it was him, which would mean it wasn't him.
If C did it, he'd be lying by saying A didn't do shit, which means A did do something. Since one of them threw the ball, it wouldn't make sense that 2 did it.
If D did it, he'd be lying by saying B didn't do it, which means B did do it, which contradicts D doing it.
Only possible option is A.

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Enough of these baby puzzles. Let's separate the brainlets from the men.
Four students took a test where every question had two possible answers, A or B. Each question was worth 10 points, for a total of 100 points.
Can you figure out Colin's score?

>>388967880
Because who ever broke it HAS to be lying.

B can't have broke it, because he would have to lie if he did. We have a paradox if B broke it.

If C broke it, that means A broke it too. Paradox

If D broke it, that means B broke it too. Paradox

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>>388968173
do you know what military time is?

>>388966876
Had the bill been real, he would have lost zero dollars. So the answer is $50.

>>388968173
do you know what military time is
there's no AM or PM in military time
it's just 00:00 to 23:59
34 is the correct answer because it's 17 different combinations with three consecutive digits being the same, and they appear on the clock twice in a day

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>>388967397
They're all in on it together. Now E is jerking off into your panties while you're distracted by this stupid fucking puzzle.

The perfect crime.

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Are you a bad enough dude to solve this?

>>388968896

1 step. You stick them all in the boat and go across.

>peasant, his wife, a shepherd, a sheep, a cow, some meat, and some vegetables
>all of these count as one passenger on the boat
>all of these

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>>388968896
>if the wife is with the shepherd while the peasant isnt around, they'll run away together
FUCKING ROASTIES

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>>388967278
correct, sometimes we tend to over think things don't we?

>>388968329
I can tell you Colin has a score between 40 and 60.

>>388968329
60%.

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>>388968329
60

>>388968329
Dan and Lisa's grade sheets only differed by two answers (6 and 9) and only differed by 20 points, which means that Dan had both of those answers correct. (both A)

Mary and Dan's sheets differed by six answers, but we know that two of them (6 and 9) were incorrect on Mary's sheet. Thus, everything on Mary's sheet is correct EXCEPT 6, 9, and one other unknown answer.

You can also work out that Mary and Dan must've answered the same question wrong, because if Mary answered one wrong but Dan right, then Dan would've received 60 points in total. (This one takes longer to verify, so do it yourself.) That means that the answer for 1, 3, 7, or 8 must be incorrect. And the others are correct.

From there, we can grade Colin's sheet from Mary's. Colin put down the same answers for Mary for 1, 3, 7, and 8, which means he has 3 answers correct and 1 wrong. 6 is wrong (B) while 9 is right (A). 2 and 5 match Mary's sheet for another correct answer, while 4 and 10 don't for incorrect answers. So that's 6 correct, and a final score of 60/100.

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>>388969492
>>388969496
>>388969523
>>388969650
fuck you, /v/. That was supposed to be the nail in your coffins. You weren't supposed to get it

>>388969979
>You weren't supposed to get it

All puzzles are made to be solved.

>>388968896
Shepard + Sheep crosses
Shepard comes back
Shepard + Meat crosses
Shepard comes back
Peasant + Shepard crosses
Peasant comes back
Peasant + Cow crosses
Peasant comes back
Peasant + Vegetables crosses
Peasant comes back
Peasant + Wife crosses

Or to put it another way: if there is any optimal solution, then that solution would require at least one trip over and one trip back for every item except the last two. You have seven items, which means at least ten trips for five of them and an eleventh trip for the last two.

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ENOUGH.
The fun and games has gone on long enough, no one shall solve this classic.

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>>388969979
>posts a puzzle to a site dripping with weapons-grade autism
>You weren't supposed to get it

>>388970056
Here's a puzzle. How do you get a gf?

>>388970260
Wrong

>>388970272
The world is 3D nigga, have them go over or under each other.

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>>388970319

Who cares?

>>388970319
Buy one. Next puzzle.

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>>388970272
I am 100% autistic.

>>388970346
Oh, whoops. Misread the meat/shepard thing as a meat/peasant thing.

Well, it's still a minimum of 11 trips regardless, so it cannot be "A. Less than ten steps" regardless of the solution. Most likely it's the 10-14 steps answer.

>>388970658

Still wrong.

>>388970624
you can't go through the houses

>>388962807
The Witness

>>388970776

I don't see that stated anywhere in the "puzzle".

>>388970776
Wasn't stated. I fulfilled all of the requirements to solve the puzzle. That's how to solve puzzles; learning what they intentionally chose to include and deliberately chose to exclude.

>>388968329
mary got 6 and 9 wrong for certain
she got only one of 1,3,7, and 8 wrong
the rest of her answers are correct
colin answered the same for 1,3,7, and 8 so there is no need to find which one mary got wrong

>>388970776
point where it says on the sheet

>>388962807
Fuck. You remind me I got stuck on this puzzle years ago and haven't played any Layton games ever since.

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>>388970272
Water conducts electricity.

>>388970701
I'd love to see your solution that involves less than ten trips, in that case.

>>388970976
nice

>>388970992
Read what the puzzle asks again

>>388970976
>Water conducts electricity.
Wrong.

>>388970941
Here you go: >>388964604

>>388970992
see >>388969369

>>388970843
>>388970874
>>388970919
fine then, how about trying to solve it without going through the houses? That a good enough challenge for you?

>>388971064
>you get deionized water from the city
wrong

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>>388970976

>>388971048
Motherfucker. 2 trips.

>>388971110
That's wrong though

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>>388971110
That's true. All of these is technically not the same as each one of these or every one of these.

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>>388971224
You got it

>>388971190
Mathematically impossible, which would render the other statement of the picture false. The puzzle is only possible if you can go through the houses, and the picture states the puzzle can be solved. Ergo you must go through the houses to solve the puzzle.

Face it; the "can't go through houses" stipulation isn't there because it's not supposed to be there.

>>388968896
>carry each person to the opposite bank
wow fucking hell what a gay puzzle

>>388963204

checked

>>388971048
Peasant + wife
Peasant comes back
Peasant + shepherd

Done you faggot.

>>388971243

Nope. Each person or thing in that sentence counts as one passenger ("all of these", not "each of these") According to the puzzles own logic, it's a correct answer.

It's probably one of those "gotcha!" puzzles, but even if it isn't, that's not my fault the puzzle creator fucked up.

>>388971190
>That a good enough challenge for you?
Challenges are meant to be solvable. There is no such solution in euclidean space

>>388971048
>"Can you achieve the objective in the smallest number of steps?"
I guess the correct answer would be "Yes", because technically, it would be possible. Or, if you prefer, the answer is "Yes" because I did so. They didn't specify that I needed to do it CORRECTLY, just in the least number of steps. And I showed that you couldn't do it in less steps outside readings like >>388969369 this one.

>>388971383
C, it's the atomic number of platinum

>>388971383
this is unsolvable

>>388971418
>>388971496
wrong. It's already been solved without crossing before

>>388971681
You're just not given all of the information needed to solve the puzzle. It's more of a riddle where you're supposed to have prior knowledge and associate it with the riddle.

>>388971754
Fake news.

>>388969650

Nerd

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>>388971681
Wrong, >>388971545 is right
The rest of the puzzles are not that interesting so I won't post them

>>388971383
78

Atomic numbers

Skyrim
:^)

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>>388966876
$20 plus the cost to buy a replacement from the manufacturer.

Since this is being framed as a theft, we can assume that the thief never intended to purchase the shoes legitimately, and therefore cannot claim the potential profit from the sale as a loss.

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>>388971845
sure is fake news

>>388972090
E

>>388972090
Puzzles is already fucked.

>None of them know who is who
>Miyoko is speaking the truth

This is a contradiction. She can't tell you who is standing where, unless you want to interpret the truth to mean the truth as she believes it. But then you can't accuse any of them of lying, either, because then they don't know if they're speaking falsely or not.

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>>388972401
sure showed him

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>>388972401
nice try, buddy. You almost had me

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>>388972401
It sure is. Middle house has no fireballs.

>>388972090
>Miyoko is speaking the truth
That's irrelevant, because they are writing on paper. None of them are speaking.

Anyways, easy puzzle. Miyoko is truthful, which means she didn't say that someone else was Miyoko. Which means Miyoko is the one on the left.
Since Miyoko is telling the truth, that means Satoko is on the right.
Rika is in the middle, by process of elimination.
E. Miyoko Rika Satoko

>>388972401
Look at it again.

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>>388972415
Yup

>>388972090
MRS

Two of them guessed M, meaning M is the girl on the left (the only one who didn't guess M, because she IS M). Since she's telling the truth, S is on the right, and R by default is in the middle.

>>388972579

These puzzles are so badly written, jesus christ.

>>388972467
Truth 1: Each girl is stating who one of the other girls are (since they're not describing who is in their spot)
Truth 2: Since Miyoko is guaranteed to be telling the truth she would never state that she is in a spot she is not currently occupying.
Inference 1: Since the only girl who states another girl is not Miyoko, that statement is guaranteed to be true: the girl on the right is Satoko.
Inference 2: Since The only true statement we can verify is coming from the only person guaranteed to be Miyoko, the person in the spot that made that statement must be Miyoko: the girl on the left is Miyoko.

Miyoko, Rika, Satoko

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>>388966876

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>>388972836
Those were the better translated ones
The gameplay came out of nowhere after over 100 hours of reading so I don't think the fantraslators cared too much about them

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Got it. What's next?

>>388972947
>Since Miyoko is guaranteed to be telling the truth

But this is not a truth because
>None of them know who is who
meaning she also doesn't even know who she is. Also it was pointed out that she's not speaking at all, so what she writes down cannot be guaranteed to be the truth.

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>>388973169

I bet you think you're clever.

>>388962807
God how do you guys even get smart enough to do these kinds of puzzles. They always piss me off and make me sad because I'm dumb

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>>388970272
What do I win?

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>>388973108
what the fuck am I reading

>>388973223
It's common sense to assume each woman knows who they themselves are since it was not mentioned they had their fucking memories wiped.
Also telling the truth is a figure of speech; not explicitly describing the physical act of speaking.
I gave you the correct answer and the logical process required to solve the puzzle. Don't get fucking mad because you couldn't solve it after glancing at it for 15 seconds.

>>388973334
You don't know how to cut kyu ju kyu in half? What are you, white?

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>>388970272
Literal easiest shit in the world

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>>388973470
>It's common sense

Guess again, faggot. Puzzles don't give a shit about common sense, they ask only that you operate within the parameters described. And I "solved" the puzzle without violating its own logic.

Learn to read, fuck face.

The K3,3 graph is not planar, you fags.

>>388973639

How the fuck are they going to cook?

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>>388973675
You didn't supply a correct answer. All you said is the puzzle is fucked because you couldn't understand it.

So tell me, how did you solve the puzzle using simpler logic or less assumptions?

>>388973470
>Also telling the truth is a figure of speech

But it says "speaking" the truth. That's not a figure of speech, Mr non-English speaker.

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>>388973108
What kind of nonsense am I looking at?

>>388973781
On a stove, dummy.

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>>388970272

>>388973898
>You didn't supply a correct answer

Neither did you - you used assumed information to come up with an answer, violating the rules of puzzle solving.

Better luck next time, buddy.

>>388973223
>But this is not a truth because
>>None of them know who is who
>meaning she also doesn't even know who she is.
It is irrelevant if Miyoko knows who she is. It is irrelevant even if she knows that she is speaking the truth. The only relevant factor is that Miyoko is telling the truth, and thus we can deduce who Miyoko is (the only person not saying Miyoko is in another chair) and also determine where everyone else is sitting.

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>>388970272
Im about to blow all your minds

Easy as shit.

>>388974130
>The only relevant factor is that Miyoko is telling the truth

But she isn't (or she might not be). She is speaking the truth, but the puzzle states that she never speaks. Therefore the veracity of any information she reports is in question. You can only solve the puzzle confidently if you assume that she is not lying, which is not a guarantee.

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>>388973931
Maybe instead of 99/2 it means just 9
I don't even remember the solution, it was just straight bullshit

>>388973334
>he isn't to intelligent to solve japanese puzzles folded a thousand times

>>388974296
Is this talking about piano keys?

>>388973903
So you want to operate under the assumption that the puzzle is giving you intentionally contradictory information or outright lying to you in a way to make the puzzle nonsensical with no possible solution instead of simply understanding that speaking the truth is a figure of speech that doesn't physically require a person to speak.

>>388974003
You don't get to back pedal. You said you solved the puzzle. I'm telling you to show your work. You said you solved it without violating the puzzles logic. Tell me how you did it. I eagerly await your blatant shitposting response that you don't need to show me anything. Considering you're ass blasted about not being able to figure out how to solve this infantile puzzle I won't be surprised when you expose your yellow belly and run the fuck away.

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>>388974382
Actually it is
Good job

>>388974607
A.

>>388973330
you solved global warning anon

>>388974621
I'm having difficulty interpreting the instructions. There's way too many ways to approach this and no clear indication which would be legitimate.

>>388974487
>You said you solved the puzzle

No I said I "solved" the puzzle. Use of quotation marks in this context implies I came up with an answer that satisfied the requirements of the puzzle - namely, how it did not follow an internal consistency allowing for a satisfactory answer.

I'm not surprised you didn't understand this given your poor grasp of the English language.

>I won't be surprised when you expose your yellow belly and run the fuck away.

I'm having too much fun blowing you the fuck out to stop now.

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>>388974621
easy

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>>388974890
>the puzzle can't be solved
Isn't a solution. There are 6 possible answers to choose from. You didn't choose any of them. That's not solving the puzzle; that's admitting you're too fucking stupid to solve it.

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>>388974607
>saba-ra
>grand dessert
>sahara
C

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>>388963375
01:00
02:00

>>388974487
>So you want to operate under the assumption

A proper puzzle asks that you operate and solve the puzzle ONLY using the information given. If the puzzle writer fucked up, that's not the fault of the puzzle solver. Speaking is not a figure of speech in this context, and I'm guessing I was right on the money when I guessed that English isn't your first language.

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>>388974621

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>>388974621
Secret of Mana solved this problem years ago.

>>388975092
>That's not solving the puzzle

Again, it's "solving" it. It's pointing out how it's so shoddily constructed that the exercise is futile, because any other solution is obtained using assumed information, thus violating the general principle of any puzzle - you don't know what it doesn't tell you.

You seem to be having a lot of trouble with this.

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>>388975214
Yup
Last puzzle I will be posting since I went from posting good puzzles to poorly translated ones
You people arguing about what the solution of that one puzzle is will love this one

>>388975225
You're making the assumption that the instructions are telling you lies. It's not a riddle; it's a puzzle. There are 6 answers to choose from and 1 of them is correct. Nobody else is having any issues with this. English must not be your first language if you take every word literally and completely ignore common figures of speech.

>>388975250
>>388975365
Should've said you needed a direct path from each city to another.
Now I can't bait you fags into an impossible problem.

>>388975223
>01:00 has a series of three identical digits next to one another.

>>388973108
Answer is D

>>388972401
lel, you have autism.

>>388975450
Ice cream's all melted by now, can't trust that fucking liar.

>>388975403
You couldn't solve the puzzle. You're retarded. You instead decided it was too hard because the words confused you and gave up while simultaneously claiming you're too smart for the puzzle. Failing to understand the meaning of the instructions is your failure. Must be hard being you.

>>388975485
>You're making the assumption that the instructions are telling you lies

No, I am simply rejecting the premise that the girl CANNOT lie, which is the assumption you are making in order to confidently solve it. She might be lying, she might not be, but you cannot assume either way, given the wording of the puzzle. Get mad at the writer, not me.

>>388975450
>>388975612
Wouldn't the magical talking self-created ice cream still have a voice even after being melted?

>>388975772
Yeah but it won't wipe any heat away while at room temperature.

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>>388975657
>no counterpoint whatsoever

I accept your concession.

>>388975450
D
Ice cream would have melted, if it were so hot.

>>388975657
Anon, stop. He's right and you're embarrassing yourself. Solving puzzles is not like solving problems in the real world. There is no "common sense" answer and you can't assume anything. Like that meme puzzle about the electricity, the water, and the gas. In real life you'd just dig one under the other or even bundle them all in the same sheathed pipe, but that answer isn't an answer to the puzzle. That's the point. It's a puzzle, not a paid position as a utilities planner for the Department of Works.

>>388962807
Lufia II

>>388975763
She literally cannot be telling a lie. Instructions explicitly tell you what she expresses to you is the truth. It's your job to figure out where she is.

Each girl is claiming a girl not in her own spot is someone else. This cannot be refuted. Look for yourself.
Since you know at least one girl is going to be telling the truth and not all of the statements are lies, you can operate under the logical conclusion that if two statements have the possibility of being false and one does not, that exception must be true.
If two girls are stating another girl is Miyoko, and Miyoko would not state another girl is Miyoko (because that would be a lie), the statement stating a girl who is not Miyoko must be the truth and it must be coming from the only person who cannot lie. You now know where 2 of the three girls are and the last you deduce through the process of elimination.

You are absolutely wrong if you think there is a simpler way to solve this, or that this puzzle cannot be solved. The instructions are clear, not misleading, and can only be interpreted one way.

If you fail to follow this logic you are stupid. A toddler or a chimp could work this out.

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>>388975586
>>388975612
>>388975979
You got that right

>>388976325
Stab one girl, Throw the other in the one they said would kill them. If it doesn't, make her a party member and then ONWARD! FOR JUSTICE!

>>388976325
>telling
You keep using that word.

The puzzle says speaking.

She can't speak a lie, but she can write one.

>>388976479
So what's the answer? Choose from the 6 provided. One of them is correct. That is how the puzzle is structured. Choose wisely.

>>388963204
So all of your missing numbers I am fairly certain are the following:

1000
1011
1101
1110
1112
1113
1114
1115
1116
1117
1118
1119
1211

Making the answer 40 due to AM/PM.

>>388976621
2+2=
a 1
b 9
c fish
d
e 1029
f 0

Choose the correct answer.

>>388976325
>Instructions explicitly tell you what she expresses to you is the truth

Incorrect. It says
>Miyoko is speaking the truth
But the problem arises when you must also consider
>We'll have them write on paper

The puzzle contradicts itself (or is simply trying to trick you). Miyoko is either speaking aloud, unlike the other two, or she is not speaking at all and writing down her answer, which is not guaranteed to be the truth. Only by assuming that she is speaking (in violation of the previous statement that says she will write on paper), or that her written answer is the truth (which is not guaranteed), can you confidently solve the puzzle. But without assuming only one of these two things, you cannot be certain of the answer.

>>388976621
Every single one of them could be correct because the puzzle doesn't contain enough information to eliminate any single one.

>>388976325
>can only be interpreted one way

This is why you're getting it wrong. Puzzles are not meant to be interpreted. The information conveyed must be of clear and truthful.

If you leave it up to the reader to say "Ok it says Y but maybe what it really means is X", then why the fuck fuck are you even writing puzzles?

>>388976786
>>388976948
Are you insisting that the three girls are not standing there in a row? If they are, what is the order they are standing in? There's only 6 possible combinations.

>>388976864
You're still failing to acknowledge, through your autism, that speaking the truth is a figure of speech and does not require you to physically speak. There is nothing to indicate that Miyoko could be lying in the instructions, and clear evidence that she cannot lie in the instructions. Of these two assumptions (she's lying, or she's telling the truth) which is more likely to be correct?

>>388976770
>1011
>1101
>1211
nigger what

>>388976770
>in a row

>>388977102
The information is clear and truthful. You're misinterpreting it if you're unfamiliar with figures of speech and instead decide to treat a puzzle with a handful of possible answers like a riddle that needs to be deconstructed. A puzzle is not a riddle. This is a puzzle.

>>388977216
Ah, missed that bit. 34 it is.

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>>388962807
>got stuck on that puzzle due to the retarded american clock

>>388977119
>speaking the truth is a figure of speech

Incorrect. Your entire argument is based on this false premise.

>>388975450
The bread. It specifies that a meal is made, not multiple.

>>388977224
>figures of speech

There are no figures of speech in the puzzle. "Speaking the truth" is not a figure of speech. It is a descriptive phrase.

Please admit that English is your second language - it would really help clear things up.

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>>388963418
>says the guy who spent three picarats to solve it

>>388977415
>>388977569
Speaking the truth is a figure of speech that describes the act of expressing the truth. It's used interchangeably with telling the truth. It does not require you to physically speak.

Need an example? When someone writes something you suspect to be a lie, and you respond to them, do you ask them if they're writing the truth, or do you ask them if they're telling the truth? Most people would be perfectly fine with "telling" the truth, "saying" the truth, and "speaking" the truth even when communicating through text. Writing the truth is not a figure of speech. Speaking the truth is.

Bleat like kids with skinned knees all you want but if you're going to behave like that puzzle is unsolvable because you take every word literally then you're braindead. You need to acknowledge that puzzles that list possible solutions you must choose from must be ultimately solvable. If you need to assume something is a figure of speech you're unfamiliar with or don't like in order to do so, it's much more rational to assume something is a figure of speech than it is to assume the entire premise of the puzzle is a lie and unsolvable.

tl;dr: You're completely wrong. This is not an unsolvable riddle. You're just unaccustomed to the necessary assumptions you need to make about certain puzzles.

>>388978164
>Speaking the truth is a figure of speech that describes the act of expressing the truth

Nope. This is your claim, but it's incorrect. You don't use the word "speaking" to refer to writing, or other non-verbal forms of communication. When you ask to speak to someone, you're not asking if they'll enter into a series of written correspondences.

These terms are not interchangeable. By your logic, you could ask someone to write down some information, and not be surprised when they start reciting it out loud instead.

>speaking
>noun
>the action of conveying information or expressing one's thoughts and feelings in spoken language.

You fucked up. Get over it.

>>388975450
The wine is not magical, she bought it. The rest is magical.

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>>388978748
Would I use the phrase speak the truth? Of course not. Keep in mind this puzzle was translated to English from a language that does not have as minor of a distinction between "tell" and "speak".

It's a multiple choice answer. If the puzzle appears unsolvable at first glance, but is designed to be solved, that's when you start making assumptions.

Is it proper to assume the puzzle is meant to be interpreted as though Miyoko is a liar? Or is it proper to assume the puzzle is meant to be interpreted as though Miyoko is not a liar?

One of these assumptions directly conflicts with the format of the puzzle and its answers. One of these assumptions aligns perfectly with how the puzzle is structured.

If you are making the more outlandish assumption you are not making the logical choice and are wrong. This sort of logic makes you bad at solving simple puzzles, but it does come in handy when you're trying to answer dick-move riddles designed to trip you up. The important part is determining which this problem is; a simple puzzle or a convoluted, maliciously worded riddle. Please remember this is from a children's handheld video game.

>>388968173
Lol you fucking moron military time is 24 hour time so some cunt doesn't accidentally say ok Joe go blow this fine coon hideout at 8 o'clock and Joe goes and blows it up at 8am when it was meant for 8pm, 24 hour time removes this margin for error

>>388962807
>puzzle
>count how many times i get this 5 in the next 24 hours

>>388967880
The culprit is lying.
For B to be the culprit, he has to be lying, this would cause a paradox, this means that D is telling the truth.
Those two are ruled out as the culprit.
Now, if A is telling the truth, then, C is telling the truth, which isn't possible as the one who did it is lying.
So the only option left is C is lying and A is lying, leaving A as the culprit.

>>388979427
>One of these assumptions directly conflicts with the format of the puzzle and its answers. One of these assumptions aligns perfectly with how the puzzle is structured.

But they're both assumptions. And as I have stated before, it contradicts the spirit of puzzle solving to assume information you are not given. If the puzzle contradicts itself, and thus makes itself unsolvable in any satisfactory way, then you have "solved" it by pointing that out. If the puzzle maker (or puzzle translator) in this case) complains, then tough shit, he shouldn't be so bad at making (translating) puzzles.

Let me put it this way to make it absolutely clear - if you are allowed to assume one thing in order to solve a puzzle, you are allowed to assume ANYTHING. Simply saying "Well it makes sense for me to assume X" is completely irrelevant. Open the door, and I'm gonna walk through it. For example
>well lets assume i am a massive japanese pervert and I have memorized all these girls bust sizes so I know that the one standing there with the fattest tits is Miyoko and that one there is Rika and the one with the disgusting flat chest is Satoko, therefore the answer is A (just like Satoko lol) and I cannot possibly be wrong because I assumed something that I felt was reasonable

>>388980319
You only need to make an assumption when you are unfamiliar with or don't like the figure of speech. It's clear which camp you belong to. I hope it feels fantastic to be someone who can't figure out how to solve a multiple choice problem and chooses to behave like an imbecile when someone carefully explained the rudimentary logic needed to result in a correct answer. Numbskull.

>>388980319
Blaming the puzzle when you don't get it. Shameless.

>>388980601
>the figure of speech
Don't make me dismantle your argument again.

>>388980671
>Blaming the puzzle
Nope, blame the puzzle writer. If something is shoddily constructed, then I'm going to point that out. Don't bother getting mad at me.

>>388981071
You're making an irrational assumption in order to reach the conclusion that a puzzle structured to have 1 correct answer is in truth designed to be unsolvable. You have no leg to stand on. You do not know how to solve simple puzzles. You can use any manner of semantic nit pickery to conclude just about any puzzle is unsolvable. That's what happens when you go out of your way to misinterpret the instructions.

>>388968896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8uddlTg7AE

dont forget the music

>>388981538

>Puzzle is badly worded and requires assumed knowledge in order to reach the correct conclusion
>I have made this absolutely clear, noone has even come close to disproving my arguments
>"You have no leg to stand on"

Feel free to make an actual counterpoint. I've clearly explained why
>Speaking the truth
is not a figure of speech. Without the assumption that the girl is in fact writing (not speaking) the truth, you cannot come to a satisfactory answer.

If you're simply saying "It's okay to assume things in order to solve puzzles, then I direct you to >>388980319

>>388962807
1:11
2:22
3:33
4:44
5:55
11:11
12:22
10:00
11:10
11:12
11:13
11:14
11:15
11:16
11:17
11:18
11:19

17x2

34?

>>388982084
OK, asshole. Hopefully you're going to be better at logical thought right now than you chose to be before. I'll explain to you now why you're full of shit and have already conceded the argument.

1. You just now acknowledged the puzzle is badly worded.
2. This means you know the puzzle was not deliberately worded to trick you.
3. This means your conclusion that the puzzle is unsolvable was a lie because that would be a deliberate trick.
4. This means you accept that there is a single correct answer.
5. This means you were unable or unwilling to provide that answer because you didn't like how the wording confused you.

Your entire argument went up in flames because instead of sticking to your guns you bent under the irrefutable truth that the puzzle is meant to be solved. The assumption that it's unsolvable is far too great of a stretch to make even for you. You should be embarrassed for getting so worked up over being unable to immediately solve something so simple.

>>388982729
>You just now acknowledged the puzzle is badly worded.

Nope. >>388975225
>If the puzzle writer fucked up, that's not the fault of the puzzle solver

You lose. Try again.

>>388982979
Only two possibilities. Either the puzzle is badly worded or it's not. You explicitly stated the puzzle is badly worded. You're bending over backwards trying to make an irrational assumption instead of making a logical conclusion.

>>388982979
>If the puzzle writer fucked up, that's not the fault of the puzzle solver
If you cant understand the puzzle thats your fault

>>388983246
>Only two possibilities. Either the puzzle is badly worded or it's not

Okay? It's badly worded. I've been saying that from the beginning. Your cute little attempt to "get" me fell flat on its face.

>>388983319
Just jumped into the conversation? Feel free to read all the previous posts, so I don't have to blow you the fuck out as well.

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>>388963427
0 isn't a number. Black isn't a color. Water has a taste. Royal Blue is a shade of purple. David Bowie was a fascist.

>>388983528
Yes. It's badly worded because it can me misinterpreted by people who are unfamiliar with the figure of speech. But you acknowledge it is badly worded and not deliberately worded precisely that way to make the correct solution a "this riddle is unsolvable". So your earlier claims that the riddle is unsolvable are thrown out the fucking window. In order to reach the conclusion that the riddle is unsolvable you need to assume the puzzle is NOT badly worded.

Do you understand? By saying it's badly worded you are admitting that it's solvable. You don't like the assumptions you have to make to solve it because you don't like the translation or figure of speech used, but you know that the solution can be solved and the correct solution can be reached using reasonable and logical assumptions rather than irrational or outlandish assumptions.

You've admitted that I was right from the very beginning as soon as you decided to admit the puzzle is badly worded instead of intentionally misleading. You cannot say the puzzle is unsolvable without claiming it is intentionally misleading.

>>388983924
>unfamiliar with the figure of speech
Already explained that there are no figures of speech in the puzzle.

>So your earlier claims that the riddle is unsolvable
Never once claimed this. What I have said is
>unsolvable in any satisfactory way
As in, "You cannot reach a conclusion that you are 100% sure is accurate, due to the fact that information used to reach a conclusion is assumed and not given."
I have used the words 'satisfactory' and 'confidently' multiple times. You either did not read those posts, or have poor reading comprehension.

It seems that you have just jumped into this conversation, not bothering to read any of the previous posts (or attributing posts I didn't make to me) and expected to not look like a complete fuckup. Surprise! You do.

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>>388984279
>This is a contradiction. She can't tell you who is standing where, unless you want to interpret the truth to mean the truth as she believes it. But then you can't accuse any of them of lying, either, because then they don't know if they're speaking falsely or not.

Can you believe you are this retarded? I'm sure you'll be impotently raging at how you were shredded apart in this thread as you're trying to sleep.

>>388984592

Not my post, mate. Nice try though.

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>>388984709

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>>388962807
That's the fucking puzzle that made me drop the game like a hot teabag.

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>>388983918
only during the thin white duke phase

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>>388984843

Believe it or don't, nigger. I've blown apart every argument that has come my way - if the best you can do at this point is to start quoting other posts and then saying that they absolutely MUST be me, then I'd say you're just about done. I win, you lose.

>>388982580
should be 35 since everyone seems to be forgetting midnight 0:00

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>>388983918
>0 isn't a number. Black isn't a color. Water has a taste
No argument there, though I'm unsure about 0.
>David Bowie was a fascist.
Dunno man, I know him from Space Oddity song only.
>Royal Blue is a shade of purple
WHAT.

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>>388985121
You're unable to reach the correct answer to a children's puzzle. You didn't win anything. All you did was sperg out about semantics for a multiple choice answer puzzle that was translated to English using a figure of speech you don't use. You got anally ravaged because of an assumption you have to make to solve the puzzle, so you use that as a stepping stool to make an even more ridiculous assumption that the puzzle cannot be solved logically.

Your IQ must honestly be below 85.

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>>388985436
>You didn't win anything

>destroyed every single argument presented
>all that's left is retards fabricating easily disprovable nonsense over and over
>You didn't win anything

Sure doesn't feel like it.

>>388968896
Just transport it via magic.

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>>388962807
holy FUCK all of you are stupid as fuck
its MILITARY time so it goes up to 2400
not a single one of you was even close
v really is brainlet tier

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>>388985343
It is, the very closest named purple shade to blue.

>>388986175
Were you dropped as a child?

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>>388986249

>>388986485
Its name also makes sense; purple is considered a noble color that represents power, therefor "royal".

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>>388985925
Claiming victory doesn't grant you victory. You're still unable to reconcile the basis for your argument and the statements you made later. I explained in vivid detail how your logic was faulty and all you can do now is pretend like you somehow won. You got upset that you weren't able to initially solve the puzzle. You got upset when I explained to you how to solve it. You got upset when you realized the puzzle was just worded poorly due to the translation. You got upset when I explained this to you. You got upset when you reluctantly admitted that the puzzle is actually solvable but were still unwilling to say it was satisfactory. You were upset when I pointed out that it is satisfactory when you use logic. You've jumped through numerous hoops trying to justify your ineffectual displeasure when the end result of your point after distillation is that you don't like how it was worded.

The only reason you would have a problem with it is if you were fooled by it. I had no issue solving it. Neither did many other people. You let your autism cloud your judgment. Next time you solve a puzzle you should probably think for a moment and determine the goal of the puzzle. Is it to trick you, or is it to compel you to provide one specific answer? If it is the former, never make any assumptions and do your best to scrutinize every single word and put every possible interpretation under a microscope. If it is the latter, assume that if there are interpretations of the instructions that render the puzzle unsolvable, that those interpretations are incorrect.

This is a puzzle solving skill. You lack that.

>>388986626
Thanks anon, it's always good to learn something new.

>>388964129
Layton puzzles are pure bullshit at times

>>388985925
you're autistic

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Can we go back to puzzles now?

Below are four halves of four separate cubes.
Each of the halves is shaped so that when fitted with an identically shaped piece, these two halves form a whole cube.
However, one piece below fails to meet those requirements and doesn't form a cube when joined with another identical piece.

Which piece is it?

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.

>>388972467
I climbed all the way up the reply chain to see what started all the text walls and this is it?

It's crazy simple, a person can tell the truth without knowing it. Whether or not you know if the statement you are making is true or false does not affect the truthiness of said statement.

>>388988892
Although I realize that I'm wrong if the statement is a claim about your knowledge of something.

>>388968896
Only good part of ep8 with magic ending

>>388990185
It was a magic trick.

>>388988814
50%

t. Engineer

>>388988678
C

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>>388988814
Switching gives you a 2/3 chance of getting the car

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>>388990413
Correct!

>>388990185
A trick. Because the right one always had the candy in the right hand.

And they never specified which hand she put into a fist.

>>388990396
>>388990695
t.goats

Someone post that fuck you puzzle from the last layton game. That was fucking bullshit

>>388990739
The one with 0 as an answer?
You need to be more specific

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>>388962807
34

>>388965793
yay

>>388962807
>12 clock, thus no 0 hour
1:11
2:22
3:33
4:44
5:55
10:00
11:10
11:11
11:12
11:13
11:14
11:15
11:16
11:17
11:18
11:19
12:22

x 2
34

>>388967397
I call B's mom and have her pay for my window since the little shit admitted to it.

I don't give a fuck who did it. I want it fixed.

>>388962807
Silent Hill 3 on Hard Puzzle difficulty has arguably my most favorite puzzle of all time.

Pure eyes, blue like a glassy bead —
You are always looking at me
and I am always looking at you.
Ah, you're too meek —
beautiful, unspoiled:
thus I'm so sad, I suffer —
and so happy, it hurts.
I want to hurt you
and destroy myself
What you would think
if you knew how I felt.
Would you simply smile,
not saying a word?
Even curses from your mouth
would be as beautiful as pearls.
I place my left hand on your
face as though we were to kiss.
Then I suddenly shove my thumb
deep into your eyesocket.
Abruptly, decisively,
like drilling a hole.
And what would it feel like?
Like jelly?
Trembling with ecstasy, I obscenely
mix it around and around: I must
taste the warmth of your blood.
How would you scream?
Would you shriek "It hurts!
It hurts!" as cinnabar-red tears
stream from your crushed eye?
You can't know the maddening
hunger I've felt in the midst of
our kisses, so many of them
I've lost count.
As though drinking in your cries,
I bring my hopes to fruition:
biting your tongue, shredding it,
biting at your lips as if tasting
your lipstick.
Oh, what euphoric heights I would
reach, having my desires fulfilled
like a greedy, gluttonous cur.
I longed, too, for your cherry-tinted
cheeks, tasty enough to bewitch my
tongue.
I would surely be healed,
and would cry like a child.
And how is your tender ear?
It brushes against my cheek;
I want it to creep up to my lips so
I can sink my teeth into its flesh.

Your left ear, always hearing words
whispered sweet as pie —
I want it to hear my true feelings.
I never lied, no...
but I did have my secrets.
Ah, but what must you think of me?
Do you hate me? Are you afraid?
As though inviting you to the agony
at the play's end, if you wish, you
could destroy me — I wouldn't care.

As you wish, you may destroy me
I wouldn't care.

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>>388991880
Forgot the pic. What's the code /v/?

>>388990552
this one still fucks with my head and I'm a literal engineer. I don't like it.
If there are two doors left, it either does or doesn't have the goat, so I would think the adjusted odds would be 50/50.

>>388991972
4206942133788

>>388992350
Yeah, wouldn't the odds change as soon as you saw the goat, not after you switch your door?

>>388992442
Damn son, it worked!

>>388992472
I think we intuitively believe it's 50/50 because we assume that the odds can change (as in, the goat/car get shuffled), but if nothing moves then the chances we got it right in the first pick is 1/3, so switching is better.

>>388992442
I dun ged it

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>>388968329
ther

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0000
0111
0222
0333
0444
0555
0666
0777
0888
0999
1000
1110 (+9)
1222

22*2 = 34

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>Unwound Future is the one and only game I can't get to run on my R4i
>Everyone says it's the best Layton game

Ballz.

>>388967880
A didn't break a thing, the ball did

>when youre too much of a high babby to play good puzzle games like prof. Layton so you just stick to tetris

>>388963427
You are missing 0200.

>>388992903
>0666
>0777
>0888
>0999

>>388963510
He didn't get them all. There's a shitload of 000s he missed.

0100
0200
0300

Ect.

>>388993680
The puzzle says the numbers need to be in a row, so 01:00, 11:01 etc don't count.

>>388993643
>>388993680
Merely pretending?

>>388993787
A row is defined as a horizontal column. The numbers all appear in the same row, therefore they are "in a row".

>>388994067
Huh, you're right.

>>388994067
While that's a neat attempt at lateral thinking, the game doesn't care because the solution does not include 01:00 etc.

>>388990719
Please elaborate.

>>388991972
That's a fucking puzzle?

>>388991880
fucking REALLY ?

>>388995335
I'll keep an eye out, bro. I appreciate your posts.

>>388995335
>You can kinda see some answers to the puzzles
Good job deleting the post tho, I'll be looking forward for some more Layton's fuckery, thanks puzzle anon.

>>388992472
>>388992350
easy to understand if you exagerate

You have 100 doors, you pick one and now all the doors except yours and 1 other one opened revealing all the goats, do you really believe that out of 100 the one you picked was the right one? Or that its much more likely that the other single door left is actually the right one?

Thats basicly what happens on a lesser scale with the 3 doors.

>>388983918
In langauge 0 is technically the concept of nothing but mathematically still is represent of a number and not the concept of a lack of one

>>388962807

00:01
00:02
00:03
00:04
00:05
00:06
00:07
00:08
00:09
01:11
02:22
03:33
04:44
05:55
10:00
11:10
11:11
11:12
11:13
11:14
11:15
11:16
11:17
11:18
11:19

Times two so 50

This is assuming clock rolls over at 11:59 to 00:00.

Hopefully I've managed to do this without looking like a complete retard.