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MASTER LIST OF POTENTIAL CHARACTERS:

*Characters listed from their initial appearance, of course including later stuff.
*This only takes into account moveset quantity(including transformations and potential support stuff), not moveset uniqueness.
*Moveset source must be manga for DB/DBZ(primarily) and anime for OVA/Specials/Filler/Movies/GT/Super. Games are complementary only.
*Being able to fly(in some way) and fire ki blasts(this doesn't mean having a dedicated ki button) is a requirement until a character that doesn't have either or both gets in.
*Yeah, lots of Super characters have potential, but they must first show more moves.

DB:
-Kid Goku(flight with Nimbus)
-Yamcha
-Roshi(flight with Gamera)
-Tien
-King Piccolo
-Base Goku

DBZ:
-Raditz
-Kid Gohan
-Nappa
-Base Vegeta
-Dodoria
-Zarbon
-Ginyu
-Recoome
-19
-17
-Imperfect Cell
-Future Gohan
-Dabura
-Majin Vegeta
-Super Buu
-Gotenks
-Ultimate Gohan
-Vegito
-Kid Buu

TV Specials/OVAs:
-Bardock

Anime Filler:
-Pikkon

Movies:
-Turles
-Lord Slug
-Cooler
-Meta Cooler
-13
-Broly
-Bojack
-Janemba
-Gogeta

GT:
-Pan
-Kid Goku (GT)
-Rilldo
-Baby Vegeta
-Majuub
-SS4 Goku
-Super 17
-Nuova Shenron
-Omega Shenron

Super:
-Beerus
-Hit
-Black
-Merged Zamasu
-Bergamo(w/Basil&Lavender)
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This is a Chadhan thread.
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>>388943519
fuck yeah
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Chiaotzu motherfucking can touch my bombing skills
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There isn't anyone who doesn't think we're getting 17 right?
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>>388944740
Begone, Slaythe.
>tfw our non-rosterfag discussion has dwindled
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>>388944740
>17fags
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>>388943457
Vegeta's RoF outfit complimented SSB so well but it looks odd on his usual outfit with all that blue.
Goku to a lesser extent but I wish Super would have kept them in new outfits.
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rest of the roster:

*Heroes
-Ultimate Gohan
-SS3 Gotenks
-SS Vegito
-Yamcha
-Tien
-Bardock(DLC(

*Antagonists
-Kid Buu
-Beerus
-19
-Dabura
-Nappa
-Ginyu
-Broly(DLC)
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>>388943457
game looks trash
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>>388943457
Yajirobe fucking when
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>>388943457
Its the 1st of september and still no email confirmations!
Do we have any news on when we will know if we got into the beta?
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>>388946267
bad bait
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>>388944740
Already deconfirmed
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>Janemba potential Moveset
I hope this one will please all the janemfags
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>>388946453
No one here knows, your best bet is to spam their Twitter
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>>388946776
my boy get in before your boy
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>>388946776
looks good
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>>388943457
>Bergamo(w/Basil&Lavender)
>Shitty wolf trio from the weakest universe
>Over the Ayy Lmao the show has been jerking off since he appeared
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>>388947023
read the disclaimer, mon

Jiren hasn't done shit yet
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>>388943519
chadten > chadhan
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>>388947023
I love Jirens moveset: red KI blast and intimidating stare.
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>>388945964
Shouldn't be that hard to make as colors.

>>388946776
Honestly Dabura is a better "demonic magic sword user" than Janemba.
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>>388947580
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Reminder
>well the criteria that we have for Dragon Ball fighterz when choosing the characters to implement is simply based on whether or not the can fight uniquely as a fighting game character because a lot of Dragon Ball games are basically we choose the characters based on their popularity but for Dragon Ball fighters we're kind of choosing them based on uniqueness or how they can fight in a fighting game
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>>388946776
YES
>>388947707
>Honestly Dabura is a better "demonic magic sword user" than Janemba
false but Dabura is still cool
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>>388948412
After that statement, it's obvious that Tenshinhan is in the base roster.
The man is so fucking unique compared to the other characters.
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Reminder that Bulma is a filthy cheating whore who destroyed this smile for the sake of a big sayan dick.
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>>388950071
yamcha was always shit tier
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>>388950071
>Bulma
>cheating whore
Yamcha cheated on her. Yamcha is as as much of a shitty person as his movepool is barren.
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>>388950071
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FHO5XZ3_VI
She left him because he is cuck.
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>>388951136
>believing Bulma's side of the story
She throws herself at almost every dude in DB.
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I'll riot if he ain't in. I'm almost certain he's gained enough popularity to be given a spot since Super put him back in the spotlight
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>>388951561
roster was decided 2 years ago, he isn't getting in
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>>388951656
Roshi was in the main crew when Golden Freeza was around. I ain't giving up hope
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>>388951886
you're going to be disappointed
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>>388951656
>>388951561
Roshi didn't need Super to be popular, he was already a possible character for a fighting game 2 years ago, stop being retarded.
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>>388951542
Well she was a teen with her cunt constantly on fire in the original DB
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How do I get a Saiyan girlfriend? Do I grab her by the tail first?
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>>388952360
Are extremely evil genocidal maniacs really that attractive? Fucking women.
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>>388943457
>Merged
fuck that, Merged can be his Super. I'd rather pull the same thing as 18 and have Zamasu with Black as an assist
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>>388951561
>not even in xenoverse
doesnt look good for him
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>>388952771
is this gay ?
is this masturbation ?
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>>388946776
I'd be down for Janemba but he's not at the top of my list. Plus I'll never not be butthurt about Toei cucking Toriyama out of the better Goku-Vegeta fusion name.
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>>388952681
You get a fit, rowdy girl and shove a buttplug up her ass that has monkey's tail at the end.
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>>388943457
Sorry but this is the only good roster

Kid Goku
Bardock
SSJ1 Goku
SSJ2 Goku
SSJ3 Goku
Goku god
Goku Blue
Black (Goku)
Farmer Goku
Security Goku
Driving Episode Goku
Survivor Limit Break Goku

DLC season 1:
Nam
Giran
Ranfan
Jackie Chun
Android 8
Lunch
Tenshinhan
Red Ogre (blue is a faggot)
Grandpa Gohan
Devil
Mummy

DLC season 2:
Make your character contest. Fans upload their designs and devs choose 3.

1 from Mexico, 1 from Brazil, 1 from japan.

Can be original characters or original transformations for previous characters. Lava Goku, White God Gohan, mystic Tenshinhan, everything is possible.
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Okay hear me out.

>SAIYAN SAGA VEGETA
SPECIAL MOVES
>galick gun - generic beam move
>Nappa! - summons nappa who charges at the opponent and grabs them (ala colossus) can direct straight or anti air
>Nappa!! - summons nappa to do his mouth beam move, causes good block stun, vegeta can still move during this move
>Go get him! - summons a saibamen to run at the opponent, when in range leaps at the opponent and explodes, counts as a hit, causes a launch
>final crash - the final flash prototype used on recoome, functions as a chargeable extra large ki blast move (think kaiser wave)
>unnamed - does the gut punch into explosion move used on zarbon
SUPER MOVES
>NAPPA!!! - nappa appears and does his signature double finger raise explosion move, go to ground super
> GALICK GUN! - does the more powerful galick gun used against goku, Air only
>OOZARU - level 3 - vegeta launches that weird pseudo moon ball at the opponent, if it hits goes into cinematic with vegeta turning into an ape and mouth beaming the opponent
> It's time to die! - level 3 - does a brief flurry of hits before knocking the opponent to the ground then launching a series of exploding ki blast, as used on captain ginyu, Air only

I also think a saiyan saga goku could make for a unique character. kaioken, 2 different spirit bombs, that one manga explosion move, solar flare, power pole, a suicide super if piccolo is on your team. It writes itself.
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>>388952863
>you've never shaken hands with and hugged yourself
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>>388953553
>no Goku Jr.
>no Goku (with heart disease)
shit roster
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>>388953651
I know this post is probably a joke, but that actually sounds fun
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>>388951561
Jackie Chun should get a spot
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Is there a single dbz game that doesnt have tien or yamcha? I'm not sure why everyone fears their exclusion. They're practically as guaranteed as every other z fighter.

Im more concerned bardock or broly wont make the initial cut.
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>>388953553
>No Kid Goku (GT)
>No Super Saiyan 4 Goku
>No False Saiyan Goku
>No grown Goku w/Power Pole

Weak roster.
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>>388954291
>>No Super Saiyan 4 Goku
> SS4 being canon
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looks fookin awesome
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>>388954193
Broly will be DLC, I guarantee it, gotta cough up $8 for him
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>>388954291
the time spent on making Goku (holding a beer can) took too long. Maybe for DLC if you are lucky
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So how many of you unironically think they're going to overload the roster with 40+ characters on only their first attempt at this, and how many of you understand and accept it's just daydreaming?
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>>388954193
Broly has been in every game since Budokai 3.
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>>388953553
>>388954291
>No (You)ku
Shit list
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>>388953651
I think we should make an exception and have pedo Vegeta gut-punch be a command grab
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>>388954754
I think everyone knows that low to mid 20s is what can be expected, but speculation and the like drives conversation. From what I understand, the 'master list' isn't necessarily OP's desired roster but rather what they see as the most likely pools of characters to select from for the finished game.
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>>388955285
>I think everyone knows that low to mid 20s is what can be expected
How many chracters did Xrd have on launch, DLC included (if it had any)?
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>>388954754
My absolute maximum before DLC was set at 28 months ago, we're at 13 now. Eh, they could make it maybe, but I don't particularly care if they fall short.
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>>388955695
Xrd Sign had 17 characters in the first version, with 2 of them (Leo, Elphelt) being DLC and 1 being unlockable in the game
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>>388955708
reminder that xrd post-dlc is only at 25
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>>388943457
>Bergamo(w/Basil&Lavender)
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When?
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>>388953534
source?
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>>388954976
>white boots
>white belt
>gotenks vest
>blue pants and wristbands
This is aesthetically the most pleasing looking fusion.
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>>388957558
funsexydragonball
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>hyperbolic time chamber has 1/4 of Earth's air
>somehow good for training
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>>388956908
I can't imagine Gogeta not making it in. He's been in nearly every DB game since Budokia 3.
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So here's OP's list, but in my opinion more realistic: I changed some shit because I'm an autist

DB:
-Kid Goku
-Roshi
-Yamcha
-Tien

DBZ:
-Nappa
-Ginyu Force
-Android #19
-Super Gotenks or SS3 Gotenks
-Super Vegetto
-Kid Buu
-The Great Saiyaman

TV Specials/OVAs:
-Bardock (Super Saiyan Install?)
-SS Future Gohan

Movies:
-Cooler (Final Form)
-Super Android #13
-LSS Broly
-Hulk'd Bojack
-Transformed Janemba
-Super Gogeta

GT:
-SS4 Goku
-SS4 Vegeta
-Super 17
-Omega Shenron

Super:
-Beerus
-Hit
-SSR Black w/ Zamasu partner
-Fusion Zamasu
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>>388946776
YAMCHA AND TIEN PLZ
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>>388957745
base vegito with darker colors is great too
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>>388958917
-Sayaman has no moves and we're already getting Ultimate
-Super 13 looks like shit, normal look is better
-SS4 Vegeta has nothing besides Final Shine Attack
-Black doesn't need a partner he has more than enough moveset
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>>388959220
>Sayaman has no moves and we're already getting Ultimate
Nani?
>Super 13 looks like shit, normal look is better
Yeah, nice opinion, but he fought in Super form the most during the movie
>SS4 Vegeta has nothing besides Final Shine Attack
Yeah, but you can't just have SS4 Goku without SS4 Vegeta, it's just not right
>Black doesn't need a partner he has more than enough moveset
That is certainly true, but Black and Zamasu fought in tandem in the anime and people want regular Zamasu in some form
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>>388958917
>more realistic
>Android #19
>SS4 Vegeta instead of Baby Vegeta

Also no Ultimate Gohan.
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>>388946776
arcsys pls
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>>388959569
>Nani?
its confirmed that we will get another Gohan form, and Ultimate is the most likely.


>Yeah, but you can't just have SS4 Goku without SS4 Vegeta, it's just not right
Majin vegeta would be a better pick for another vegeta clone.
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>>388959774
Okay, but what does Gohan have to do with Great Saiyaman?
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>>388943457
After that last episode, we really need Master Roshi in the game.
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>>388960119
>After that last episode
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>>388959580
>>388959774
All I was really saying with SS4 Vegeta is that if you really think about it has SS4 Goku ever appeared without SS4 Vegeta too?
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>>388959774
>its confirmed that we will get another Gohan form,
No it isn't.
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>>388960290
>has SS4 Goku ever appeared without SS4 Vegeta too?
Vegeta didn't get SSJ4 until literally the last fight of GT. Goku got SSJ4 half way into the show.
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>>388960594
I mean in games you fucking retard
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>>388943519
>>388943712
>>388944971
>>388959580
Gohan showed no unique moves of traits in his ultimate form. No one wants that faggot, plus we already have SS2 Gohan (best version).
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>>388960290
Dragonball GT Final Bout only had ss4 goku
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>>388960659
games don't matter pedro
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>>388960290
SS4 Goku has much more to offer than SS4 Vegeta and considering that this game has a limited roster there is no way that they will add him.

>>388960468
Yes it is, another Buu form is also confirmed.
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>>388960119
Why do people shit on the artstyle of Super, this frame looks fucking great, much better than the blurry mess that was DB-DBZ

>tfw i remeber the face of kid goku in DB which was basically a blob with eyes and mouth
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>>388960714
Wrong
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>>388960765
>muh limited roster
>arcsys already has two goku's and two vegeta's
I hope you get your tissues ready when they announce Majin Vegeta and Base Goku.
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>>388960753
>games don't matter
>when talking about a game
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>>388960870
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>>388960806
Because they haven't even watched the show and they only remember the good parts of the old shows. Sure, the animation quality is pretty inconsistent, but the good parts are really good.
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>>388960806
Because there's no grain filter to cover the really bad shit
Also Yamamuro
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has all might been announced yet?
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>>388960714
No, people want him, they just aren't willing to realize and accept that he has nothing unique for him for this type of game
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>>388960806
Because its usually pretty bad.
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>>388960806
Because it looks like fucking crap, most of the show doesn't even look like that. Not to mention that somehow even GT managed to look better than Super.
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>>388961240
>Because there's no grain filter
Fucking good
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>>388960806
The first couple of arcs, like from Beerus' introduction to the beginning of the Zamasu had pretty much no concept of shading or staying consistent, a lot of off model and blatant lazy animation. That single frame has some shading and is pretty on model but the colors are so over saturated
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>>388960948
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>>388961424
NEck yourself monkey.
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>>388961374
>GT
>posts Bojack movie
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>>388960806
It took a long time to get to this point. Super is in the early 100s and it's just now seeing some semblance of consistency. It is a good frame, and they added a new filter that mutes the colors a bit which is a plus for some, but don't be deceived into thinking the show looks this good on average, or that the animation is where it ought to be. Animation and frames are more consistent now in part due to having a reliable animation bank but it still has its wonky moments, and it only took about 90 episodes to reach this point.
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>>388961374
that scene always turned me on
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>>388960286
Nobody read or watched DB bro. You know this.
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>>388943457
>Rilldo
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>>388961519
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>>388961374
Smurfette had a hard life.
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>>388960286
>>388961628
I sure did, but that was ages ago and he's been doing jack fucking shit since then. He's back in the action in Super, so we need him in a game now more than ever.
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>>388960659
>calls me the retard
>doesn't know the answer to something obvious
kek
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>>388961660
>Blurry as fuck

kek
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HAS CAP'N BEEN ANNOUNCED?
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>>388960765
>Yes it is, another Buu form is also confirmed.
No, that's not a confirmation you fucking idiot.
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>>388962049
>a show from pre-2000 that hasn't been re-released like Kai looks blurry
No shit nigger, it still looks better than Super.
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>>388962082
Yes it is, we just dont know which form yet.
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>>388962082
It hasn't been confirmed yet but the main website's lists small details that hints at a new Gohan and a new Buu. It's hidden in the websites inspect element pages.
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>>388962189
No it isn't. The game itself calls him "Gohan."
Which instantly puts your "confirmation" to shit.

Come back when you actually have confirmation that isn't an assumption based on given "evidence."
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>>388962049
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwKQKf6of7Q
Show me a better animated scene in super than this.
And please not the meme episode with Freiza vs Goku.
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>>388961331
who?
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>>388961331
capeshit fans should be hanged
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>>388962137
Kai looks like shit too though, but for different reasons
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>>388962137
*sometimes*
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>>388962482
Is that supposed to look good?
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>>388962303
>>388962210
This also SSB Goku and Vegeta have been leaked this way.
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>>388962308
>Show me a better animated scene in super than this
>except this one scene you can BTFO me with
Not him, but come on man
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>>388962443
>Implying DBZ isn't ten times worse than capeshit
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>>388962308
Is this bait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXT1VOlZJTs
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>>388943457
that screenshot looks better than any of those two movies and entire super series combined.

decent animation makes the blue look good
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>>388962308
Seems really lazy, a lot of still frames with little actual movement. Was sarcasm?
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>>388962482
>he thinks this looks good
>golden ps4 meme laughter face to heavily imply I'm XD in real life
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>>388962531
I mean ye
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>>388943457
>not included Jiren
His arc will be over by the time the game is completed
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>>388962649
no, capeshit is worse
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>>388962594
>>except this one scene you can BTFO me with
I just picked a random GT scene that I remembered, not even sure if this is the best looking one since I havent watched it for over 10 years.


>>388962670
No but this has to be.
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>>388962670
>superfags think this is good
wew
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>>388962670
I made it 40 seconds in before stopping. If you think that is good you need to hang yourself.
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>>388962924
>>388962925
>Hating on based Tate

shit taste
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>>388962703
I think lighting has a lot to do with it, every time blue is used in the show it seems kinda dull. I liked the concept art version a lot better where it was a bit silvery
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>>388962865
Yeah, but they can't just shit these characters out, they take time and there's way more that take priority over him
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>>388962924
>>388962925
>>388962945
Looks better tho
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>>388963006
I don't know who or care, but it looks like shit. The animation itself isn't actually bad. It's just a shitty ass style that doesn't fit Dragon Ball.
That's not including the beyond shitty art that doesn't look like Dragon Ball either.
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>>388963006
Sorry but sometimes the animations look Naruto vs Pain tier.
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all you GT and super fags do is respond with
>___ fags think this looks good ?
kek
No argument brainlets
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>>388945964
Blame the fucking nips
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>>388943457
>Dragon ball characters
Please no
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>>388963174
>I don't know who or care

>>388963196

Naruto vs Pain looked great tho, not everything has to be hyper realistic.
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>>388962703
Thing is those are 3D models though
And they're done by actually competent people who care about what they're working on
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>>388962482
>>388962670
>>388963168
>this is the quality that superfags think is good
And then people question why the show's budget is 10 cents.
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>>388963336
>Naruto vs Pain looked great tho
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>>388963434
>NO ARGUMENT
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Super looks better than GT after universe 6 saga
Z looks better than both except in the Cell saga which looked fucking horrible
The best looking part of DB is the Buu saga.
The worst one is RoF.

There, done.
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>>388963441
Sweet low hanging fruit cherry pick bro
You going to shit on the first Goku vs Beerus fight too? You know, like literally everyone and their mother has already done?
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>>388963541
>shit quality
>>
you niggas need to shut your fatasses up, up in here arguing about which cartoon looks better.

eat ass and catch gingivitis pls
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>>388963441
>Thinking this wasn't done on purpose

Are you like fucking 12 and you can't realize what art direction did the people animating this go for. And it looks good in motion, just like Goku vs 17.
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>>388963562
>Everyone has already pointed out that this pile of shit stinks, therefore it's not a valid complaint
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>>388963687
>And it looks good in motion, just like Goku vs 17.
It animates well in motion, but that doesn't mean it looks good.
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>>388963617
according to who what the fuck is your point
you master animator
>hur dur shit quality cuz i dun like it
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>>388963698
My point is that that's one part of the fight that literally everyone has made fun of already, try giving me stuff from orher parts of the fight that legitimately look bad instead of just going for the easy shit everyone already knows about
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>>388963006
>>388963006
Tate's got a lot of shabby looking stuff. This is probably the best choreographed fight he's put out in Super but even it has its problems. Like at the 5-10 sec marks. The loops look super unnatural. Shida's fallen off hard, and while he isn't part of this discussion, I mention him because people tend to bring his cuts up when defending Super's quality.
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>>388963746
No, it literally looks good.
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>>388963234
this desu famyams
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>>388963919
>Tate's got a lot of shabby looking stuff
Thats the point tho it has to look shabby, its his "unique" look and it fits the fast paced animations of super or something similar
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How would Videl drawn by ArcSys look?
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>>388964140
Fast pace doesn't mean very much if the choreography is so underwhelming that you don't care for it. It's also got a noticeable lack of impact more often than not, though the issue isn't as big as it is with modern Shida. Different strokes and all, but speed alone just doesn't do anything for me. I'd say they're okay. Not actually bad, but not great. Which I feel is a fair rating. He's still at the top of Toei's animators.
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>>388964140
Tate's stuff isn't for everyone though you have to realize
And it can tend to be hit or miss, I definitely adore the 6th One Piece movie though, his art was very visually interesting and dynamic in that movie, but his Goku vs Freeza stuff was kind of.. eh
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>>388964379
His part of the Goku vs Frieza fight was the only one that didn't look like shit.
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>>388963561
This is absolutely on point. Bless you, anon.
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>>388963968
>17 vs Goku
>looking good
No, not even. I don't know what shit flash animations you it up but just because it has technical depth doesn't mean it's good. The fight looks like shit.
>Shit art
>Non-DB style animation
>Shit choreography

It's a shitty fight, get over it, superpablo.
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>>388964379
his rage trunks vs rose on the mountains looked great imo
>>
Why the fuck is /v/ better about discussion Dragonball animation than /a/? Fucking hell.

>>388964215
She'd look like she came straight out of a manga panel, but she'd have her anime colors. She'd look great. You're probably only gonna see Super's Videl though, in story mode.
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>>388963561
I thought Cell Saga was crappily animated fights punctuated by a few really well animated ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A0lqnlzDuI
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>>388964725
The fight actually looks better than most DB fights because of the beatiful environment and lightning
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>>388963561
>Super looks better than GT
No it doesn't. GT Looks a lot better than Super.
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>>388964853
Pretty much. Cell saga's a prominent example of terrible animation in Z. Most of the Goku vs Cell fight was horrible for example, but the final episode of it was pristine.
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>>388964901
no man if a fight is off model for 1 second it's shit
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>>388964947
Watch it again if you can survive the absolute fucking top 10 worst main casts in media ever
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>>388964947
Not him but art direction =/= animation. The art direction is generally better in GT but the animation itself leaves a lot to be desired.
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>>388964807
>Super's Videl
I feel nauseous.
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>>388964901
>beatiful environment and lightning
Which people dont see because of the plastic look and ugly colors.
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>>388965150
>ugly colors

u fucking wot m8 they captured the sunset incredibly well, are you just writing what comes to your head just to shitpost?
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>>388964807
shut the fuckup and stop shilling /v/ faggot
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>>388965118
So does Super. I still don't see a single fight in Super that was more on-model and had more proper animation than Goku vs Baby Vegeta.
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>>388965323
watch it again then you blind fuck
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>>388965378
>17 v goku
>on model
so you're baiting?
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>>388965118
Is this considered good animation?
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>>388965323
Vegito vs Zamasu
Goku vs Toppo
Gohan vs Lavender
Kale vs Goku
Goku vs Hit
Black vs Trunks in the mountais
Buu vs Goku
Goku vs Krillin


Now that i think about it Goku vs Krillin was freaking good looking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyOScna75Xo
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>>388965290
>shilling something that's free to use for everyone
Don't forget to breathe, okay?
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>>388965526
>Goku vs Krillin was freaking good looking
Easily the best fight in super. No other fight compares.
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>>388965015
The animation directors from the Cell Saga weren't very consistent, and really only Shimanuki got a really good looking Cell consistently.
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>>388965676
Merged Zamasu vs Vegito is still one of the best looking fights in DB and probably the most smooth fight in DB in general except for BoG and RoF (movies ofc)
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>>388965693
>GT cell looks better
>>
>SS Goku
>SS Vegeta
>SS2 Kid Gohan
>Freeza
>Cell
>Fat Buu
>Android 18
>Android 16
>Piccolo
>Krillin
>Tien
>Roshi
>Ginyu
>SS Gotenks
>Kid Buu
>Ultimate Gohan
>LSS Broly
>Hit
>Beerus
>SSB Vegeta
>SSB Goku
>SSB Vegito
>SSR Goku Black
>Zamasu

How mad are you when this is the confirmed roster?
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>>388965736
>Merged Zamasu vs Vegito is still one of the best looking fights in DB
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>>388962649
no...it's not
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>>388965676
Goku and Hit vs Dyspo and the angry blue midget
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>>388965746
I'd be fine with it.
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>>388965818
>reaction
>no argument
to the trash it goes
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>>388965746
That looks perfectly fine to me, man
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>>388965818
Its pretty fucking good looking m8. It doesn't look too much like DB because its smooth as fuck and it doesn't feel hard-hitting but its good looking
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>>388965693
Pretty much.
>>388965524
It's okay. Cloud effects are cool.
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>>388965746
But anon, this roster is perfect and covers all the bases
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>>388965878
>shit choreography
>multiple ATATATA secitons
>best looking fight
Solely based on being on-model, then yes. But as a an actual fight it's shit.
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>>388965693
>every frame the faggot has spots in different places

Great character design and great animation
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>>388965736
>>388965938
It has good cheography but the animations look bad.
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>>388966045
>>multiple ATATATA secitons
then i guess 60% of the fight in z are shit
>>best looking fight
yes it looks nice
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>>388966069
You aren't being serious are you?
That'd be like trying to perfectly dot a basketball in every frame
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>>388966030
I unironically like that the attack has a distinct effect on people, they basically have a ready animation for when they bring Hit into Fighterz.
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>>388965526
The only good, well animated, on model fight that you posted was Goku vs Krillin. Every other fight you posted is pure shit. Go get some taste retard.
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>>388965992
>It's okay.
Look closely at Blacks movements and tell this looks good.
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>>388966169
>Goku vs Toppo
>pure shit
GTFO you fag
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>>388965746
>Zamasu and Black
Fuck off.
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>>388966129
>then i guess 60% of the fight in z are shit
Of course, that's not an argument when discussing the best fights of DB because most of the best don't have ATATATA. And for Vegerot vs Zamasu it's already such a short fight and they for whatever reason thought ATATA was necessary.
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>>388966030
And?
Rewatch Dragonball 149-152 and you see the same scenes of Ox-King running from fires like 4 times with same exact animation each time

You act like recycled animations something new to Dragonball
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>>388966136
Then why give him spots in the first place

>>388966169
Gohan vs Lavender looks great, so does Kale vs Goku and Zamasu vs Vegito
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>>388966069
Each director brought in their own team, some had large teams others had like 3 people and did a lot themselves. Getting the spots consistently in the same area is pretty hard, probably why they didn't bring Cell back because those spots were a nightmare to animate.
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>>388960286
??
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>>388966271
(You)
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>>388966375
>literal filler episodes reusing animation is the same as the new "canon" DB anime reusing animation in a fight scene
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>>388966237
I said okay, not good. It's passable for a weekly shonen series.
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>>388966391
>kale vs Goku
Legitimately terrible and the fact that you bring it up just proved you're a blind retard.
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>>388966481
Fillers are the best thing about the dragon ball anime you underage faggot
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>>388966391
>Then why give him spots in the first place
holy shit, are you stipud?
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>>388966547
>Legitimately terrible
you haven't seen many shounen then
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>>388966547
shit fight but it looked good
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>>388966391
The Vegito was fight fucking awful. Holy shit, why do you faggots keep bringing it up? For Super it's mostly on model which is nice, but the animation is shit and the choreography is terrible. None of the attacks looks like they have weight and all the movements are not only too fast, they look to jittery as if there's no proper flow or cohesion between movements or scenes.
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>>388966030
Animation banks aren't rare for series like these. It allows the animators to work on new animation instead of wasting their time with something like this.

>>388966045
>That scene where Vegetto has a clear shot of Zamasu's face and swings at the air around it instead.
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>>388966481
It wasn't completely reused like you think
Also the whole point is that it's Hit's fighting style and we've seen him use this attack before, so we know Dyspo's fucked, that made the scene much cooler
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>>388966681
who the fuck are you?
most people who know basic shit about animation can tell you its good
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>>388966681
cringe
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>>388943457
Confirmed:
-Goku/SSB
-Vegeta/SSB
-Gohan
-Frieza
-Cell
-Majin Buu
-Trunks
-Piccolo
-Krillin
-18&17
-16

Essentials:
-Ultimate Gohan
-Gotenks
-Tien
-Yamcha
-Kid Buu
-Raditz
-Broly
-Beerus

Maybe:
-Zamasu
-Nappa
-Roshi
-Ginyu
-Dabura
-Super Buu
-Janemba
-Gogeta
-Vegito
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>>388966681
ok
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>>388966801
>who know basic shit about animation can tell you its good
The fight is terrible and there is very little weight to it. It's without a doubt the most overrated fight in Super and probably DB history. The only reason why it's praised is because it somehow manages to be on-model for the entire fucking fight. The actual animation itself isn't good and it's nowhere near top 10 DBZ fights or even the best DBS fight.
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the best choreographed fight in db
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>>388966919
>essentials
>Raditz
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>>388966801
Show me a good animator saying Super's animation is good.
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>>388966801
>>388966829
>>388966932
>supercoons are so desperate to defend super they will say garbage like Vegito/Zamasu is good
Pathetic.
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>>388967071
because it is objectively good and better than 99% of shounen and dbz animation
>>
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>>388966801
>most people who know basic shit about animation can tell you its good
"No."
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>>388967035
In Super maybe. Z has better fights.
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>>388967145
no
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>>388967145
Please don't tell me you think this is true.
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>>388967145
>it is objectively good
lol
>better than 99% of dbz animation
As an exaggeration that's not something to be proud of.
I can name 3 Z fights that shit all over Vegito vs Zamasu to Hell and back. Stop trying to hype up the fight as if it was a good one, all it is is a scene that looks good art-wise.
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>>388966785
Count how many times Gyu-Mao enters a T shaped corridor from the right, attempts to head upwards, gets blocked by fire, and runs towards camera with the right corridor he comes from shooting out fire as he passes

I counted one per episode
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>>388967145
LMAO the first fight in DBZ is better than anything from Super and it isn't even that good.
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>>388953534
even when this hamplanet traces something it still ends up looking like literal garbage
>>
You know what has good animation? Dragon Ball FighterZ.
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>>388967321
>3 Z fights that shit all over Vegito vs Zamasu

Seeing as Z had like a billion of fights thats not a bad position.
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>>388967440
Even if you limit Z to 100 episodes it still has better fights than Super.
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>>388966713
>That scene where Vegetto has a clear shot of Zamasu's face and swings at the air around it instead.
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>>388967264
>>388967223
what shounen have you seen?
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>>388967560
>this is the "best fight in DB history"
TOP KEK
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>>388967560
His arms are too shor anon
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>>388967213
such as?
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>>388967560
>Zamasu isn't even actively blocking the attacks
>Vegito still misses and just punches his arm
Who defends this garbage?
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>>388967560
That's the one
>>
>>
Unironically show me a more smooth fight than Vegito vs Zamasu that isn't from the recent movies, you literally can't.
>>
Why is this guy shitposting about Super?
>>
>>388967638
>>388967638
doens't matter if it's shit that is what most superfags think an there is nothing you can do about it
you lost
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>>388967752
wow
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>>388946001
this most likely
>>
It's fucking hilarious how Super apologists started shitting on Z animation after all this backlash about Super's animation started.

Literally no one ever nitpicked Z animation and crapped on it before Super happened. Why? Because it was good to decent looking for a fucking 90s show. Super's animation is horrible CONSTANTLY in the year 2017 when you have other animes that shit on it completely. This is supposed to be the Dragon Ball franchize. It should have top tier animation.
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>>388967786
https://youtu.be/wD7eiBXMNT8
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>>388967560
Why is Zamazu 3 times bigger than Vegito?
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>>388967976
Reminder that because of multiverse theory there's a universe not only where DBS has 90's Z art, but also has 110% toppest of tiers animation and is literally a godsend story wise.
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>>388967560
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>>388967976
>when you have other animes that shit on it completely
such as?
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>>388967976
>Literally no one
>>
They should just make gogeta and vegito an optional super move for when you have both vegeta and goku on a team
you lose 1 assist but get an essential glass cannon character in return
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>>388968180
He pulled a Cell
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>>388968189
How do I switch universes? This one sucks
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>>388967786
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best Gohan reporting
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ore wa, suupa bejiita da
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>>388968069
>namek saga vegeta uses the final flash
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Any other Farmer mains?
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>>388968069
>30 second of powering up (shit aura btw)
>still frames out the ass
>the part when he picks recoome by the leg
>off model
nice try tho
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>>388968376
What would his moveset look like?
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>>388968234
>such as?
Not him but OPM looks even better then DBZ movies let alone DBS.
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>>388968293
>smooth
yea no
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>>388968287
Gotta call up your boy Trunks or Whis.
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>>388968439
Seasonal shit wth only 12 episodes
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>>388968295
>tfw purchased this neat statue


Can't wait for it to ship.
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>>388966681
>the choreography is terrible. None of the attacks looks like they have weight and all the movements are not only too fast, they look to jittery as if there's no proper flow or cohesion between movements or scenes.
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>>388968443
By smooth you mean elastic animation with no weight or choreography?
>yea no
Kill yourself.
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>>388967560
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>>388968439
>12 episode show
can you people not be retarded? thanks
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>>388968439
>gary sue
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>>388968180
I think Gowasa said something about Zamusa manifesting his anger or some shit
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>>388967786
I'm pretty sure that the only reason that fight looks smooth is because every single frame is sped up.
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>>388968523
>>388968668
>OPM looks even better then DBZ movies

>can you people not be retarded?
Says the guy who can't read.
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>>388968293
>that punch in the first couple seconds
What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>388968432
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>>388968668
>can you people not be retarded?
>comparing seasonal trash with a weekly series
who is the retard here?
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>>388968749
>>OPM looks even better then DBZ movies
No it doesn't.
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>>388968628
no I mean smooth. try again if you will
>>388968439
and this does not look better than fusion reborn
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>>388968851
>No it doesn't.
It does
>>
Reminder the only reason this game is being made is because of DBS
Apologize
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>>388968612
anon that statue looks like straight cash f.am

how much was it?
>>
>>388968749
>ignoring the main comparison of opm to dbs
fuck off retard
>>388968835
apparently you
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>>388968851
Are you fucking retarded? I mean I love Dragon Ball, but I'm not fucking blind OPM looks way fucking better than anything Dragon Ball, which is why I hate that Toei still has the rights to the anime instead of an actually competent studio who could do it justice
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>>388968972
>not dokkan
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>>388968432
qcf+punch: Rifle Shoot
qcb+kick: fall backwards
qcb+punch: eating bread (heals health)
qcf+kick: drive truck
level 1 super: I thought you were a deer!! (modeled after when he shot Android 20)
level 3 super: Shoot the Attack Ball (modeled after when he shot Raditz)
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>>388968986
all of those resolution of soldiers figures look fucking great. not him but I got this one for 30$
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>>388969105
How much money does Dokkan make anyway?
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>>388968986
33£ from Amazon
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>>388968883
>and this does not look better than fusion reborn
As much as I love Fusion Reborn, it doesn't even have the best animation of Z movies. It's just above average Z animation with good choreography. OPM blows everything DB related out of the water in terms of animation, choreography is a different argument though.
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>>388969157
more than this game
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>>388968883
The part with Goku dodging the swords is great but everything else is edited to togther rather awkwardly.
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does anyone else unironically want Kale and Caulifla to be in it? I want to beat the shit out of everyone with LSS Kale
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>>388969540
No, only waifufags and shitposters
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>>388969540
>anyone else unironically want Kale and Caulifla
/a/ is literally like 3 keys away from /v/, I think you made a typo
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>>388969540
yes, also ribrianne
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>>388968851
Even Studio Pierrot is better then Toei
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>>388968439
That's to be expected. It's a seasonal anime by Madhouse. Madhouse is superior to Toei, and a seasonal anime is always going to look better than a weekly series with no end in sight.
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>Goku vs Jiren is confirmed to be a 1-hour long special
Will it have good animation?
>>
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>>388970001
>toei
super animation is fine now, the problem is choreography since they can't just copy the manga
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>>388970001
>Goku vs Jiren is confirmed to be a 1-hour long special
Nah it's pic related
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>>388970001
I fucking hope so, but if it doesn't and even has re-used as fuck animation it'll be meme worthy for years to come
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>>388969140
I'm going to buy Vegeta after.

It would be great if they made Bardock as the next statue.
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Will the announcement of Black finally stop the DBZtards vs. DBStists from arguing amongst each other?
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>>388969691
>movie
Lmao.
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>>388970001
It's definitely going to have all of Toei's best hands on it, but even if it's well animated, it won't be all that great without choreography worth a damn. This is largely Super's current problem. People are more willing to forgive somewhat mediocre animation if everything else about it is good.
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>>388970193
Black is from a Z movie so no
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>>388970193
No.
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>>388970193
we saw black at the end of the Z movie so...
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>>388970168
that's different
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>>388970193
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>>388970416
Source?
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>>388970401
>>388970358
retards
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>>388970193
It'll continue for about another month from now.
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>>388970416
>purple cell with a dickhead
What were they thinking?
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>>388970485
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/903413213487710208

https://twitter.com/kanzenshuu/status/901980952402026496
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>>388969540
Yes, at least one more female fighter.
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>>388970635
Hit's design is pretty lacking, but his character is where he shines
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>>388970681
It'll be Videl or Towa
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>>388970784
>Towa
No.
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>>388968883
>Goku will never use his Power Pole ever again
I mean, t-they brougth back the kaioken, they could at least bring it back for one episode, r-right?
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>>388970784
Got anything to support that?
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>>388970814
well definetly not for the tournemant
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>>388970814
I mean whoever he's fighting would probably just break it
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>>388970814
It won't happen bro. Maybe Super Dragon Ball FighterZ will give us young adult Goku with the pole.
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What canon moves can they give Videl?

All she did was get her ass beat by Spopovich and give millions of teenagers the weirdest boner of their young lives.
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>>388970848
Videl is the most prominent female fighter after 18 (at least in Z she was)
Towa is in most spin off shit because lack of originality and the little bit of story we know in this game is similar to her handywork
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>>388969691
>Studio Pierrot
>The same people that did Tokyo Goul season 2
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>388960806
>>388961135
>>388962049
>>388962482
>>388963168
>>388962670
Ok so I've only watched DB and DBZ very casually while growing up and haven't touched GT or Super at all, but these posts HAVE to be bait, right?

Super simply looks wrong on every possile aspect. The faces are all over the place - things like distances between eyes, or nose & mouth, etc. It has an entirely different (and worse) art direction. The way everyone is drawn is super(heh) rigid compared to the cell-animated DB era, the animation budget seems to be about the same but whoever's animating doesn't know crap about properly using it, it doesn't matter if there are more frames of animation when they all look like shit and/or are badly directed, making the extra effort/budget go down the drain. To top it off Super has this piss-filter smeared all over it for no apparent reason and the color palette was made by an amateur, there's no sense to the colors, they are DeviantArt-tier bad, some completely over-saturated, some too dark, the cheap effects they use with their own color mish-mash issues, the shadows are completely muted and lifeless, so on and so forth.

And no I don't need to watch the anime to judge the animation quality when the things you post as the "best" example look THAT bad. I didn't watch GT either and it's easy to see the animation team was still largely the same as Z's just from watching 2 seconds of animation. Maybe it's because I'm a drawfag so it's obvious to me but still how can you be this blind?

Hell, even the posters look shit-tier. Vegeta and Goku are both stiff as lumber
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>>388963168

female broly? wtf?
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>>388971116
She'd basically be Cammy or Rainbow Mika
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>>388971278
where do I subscribe
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Super Elite when?
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>>388971285
it's great, isn't it?
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>>388971567
We have Vegeta
Twice.
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>>388967752
What in the fuck is this
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>ZANGYA potential Moveset
So yes, I know she will never be in, but I rewatched the movie today and it was fun to see that she actually fight more than once in it (in my memory, it was just the fight with Krillin). Enjoy.
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>>388967035
Fucking hell that looks horrible.
Just curious does anyone know what happened to DBZ's staff? Because they sure as shit aren't the same ones animating and directing Super.
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>>388971872
lol
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>>388971872
Yamamuro happened
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>>388971867
>>388968295
This has to stop.
>>388971278
People who defend super have probably never seen the older series, either that or they try to ignore it.
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>>388971867
good research but awful execution

she has no supers from the movie so she will need the Super Butoden 2 ones which are already re-used in the games
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>>388971872
that looks better than 90% of the fights in Z
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>>388971867
>design 10/10 qt
>make her a movie minion jobber with one line
why
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>>388972249
The only good thing about this fight is the choreography.
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>>388971867
>>388972249
Lol, no.
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>>388972249
You wish
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>>388972249
Super babies are delusional
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I just realized something. Me waiting for Yamcha to be announced, being sure that he will be playable, is kinda like how Yamcha thought for sure Goku would pick him for the ToP.
Lets hope it doesn't end the same way...
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>>388971872
You have a lot of the old staff onboard for Super in different positions. Plus, a lot of their just plum lost their touch. I mean, it was the '90s.

Compare:
https://youtu.be/l0ubFGiQZIg
https://youtu.be/XKxEnxuRBts

to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKyBT4MHF58
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>>388972218
>awful execution
You can't do a real fighting game character with her without being creative, so of course nothing good can be made just with the source material, she has good normals though.
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>>388972853
>AMVs
No thanks
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>>388972784
Why you gotta go and make it all sad? Yamcha's gonna get in, I'm sure of it.
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>>388972965
They're not actually AMVs. They have some OST music from the series playing over all of Shida's cuts. The guy is just Italian and doesn't know better than to call it an AMV.
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>>388972961
she just needs her supers from Butoden, she has enough normals and specials
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>>388972459
>>388972501
>>388972585
nostalgiafags are amazing
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>>388971867
Where's one for Videl?
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>>388973356
Super apologists are amazing
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>>388973580
>apologists
lol. everyone including toriyama knows super has shit animation and choreography but if you don't think that fight was better than 90% of fights in dbz you're either fucking retarded or delusional
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>>388973356
t.underage
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>>388973716
t. nostalgiafag
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>>388973356
The worst DBZ animation >>>the best DBS animation. Super is literally fanfiction deviant art tier animation.
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>>388972249 see >>388971278
>it doesn't matter if there are more frames of animation when they all look like shit and/or are badly directed, making the extra effort/budget go down the drain.
A DB/DBZ/GT fight with 2x less budget and 5x more cheap animation budget tricks still looks better than that "smooth" Super fight.

I must stress than I'm not a DB fan whatsoever, just watched it casually and even SamuraiPizzaCats has more nostalgic value for me. Not biased towards any of the DB animes, I'm just pointing out the obvious fact that Super looks like absolute shit even if they were animating on 2s (if you don't know what that means don't worry, it explains why you think Super looks good).

>>388972853
>You have a lot of the old staff onboard for Super
Man.. really? That's a shame. Did they not tutor new animators well? Did they lose their drive? How can an abomination like Super happen when neither the budget, time or staff are all that different?
Did they double or triple the outsourced frames? That's the only reason I can find, but even the in-house sakuga segments of Super looks so bad..
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>>388957745
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>>388973921
>The worst DBZ animation >>>the best DBS animation
This is bait.
You can hate Super all you want, but this is simply far from true.
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>>388973921
nope.
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>>388965693
>Cell Saga had the most QUALITY fights because his spots ate up all the time and budget
This would explain a lot.
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>>388973984
>Did they not tutor new animators well?
There's a lot of new blood as well, and they aren't as talented.
>Did they lose their drive?
Not really. Well, it's hard to tell, but your next question addresses the issue. The time IS different. Super was hastily put together by Toei suits to capitalize on the success of Battle of Gods and Resurrection F. The production for the anime has been playing catchup this whole time because it's a poorly organized outfit. Some of the old animators lost their touch, but the issue is mostly with time management. The transition from DB to Z was a lot more calculated and smooth. Comparatively, Super was pretty much "overnight." They do outsource to Toei Philippines (etc) a lot more also.
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>>388974256
I don't remember dbz looking this bad
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>>388973698
>you're either fucking retarded or delusional
Oh the Irony
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>>388974428
irony indeed
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>>388946001
yeah this is very likely
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>>388970065
wut?
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>>388974095
>expecting dumb ningen to appreciate true beauty
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>>388974327
I see.
What about DBZ > GT. Wasn't that transition rushed or not really? (I would assume since GT is non-canon that Toei wanted to make for easy $$$)

Because from what I've seen GT's animation quality seems on par with the others.
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>>388975564
I have no idea to be honest. GT's animation is actually pretty mediocre most of the time, though. The art direction is good, but you have a lot of boring, lifeless fights, also a lot of still shots.
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>>388975564
>from what I've seen GT's animation quality seems on par with the others.
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Just a reminder to never argue with /v/ about Dragon Ball.

It's all a bunch of retards who literally think Krillin wished 18 to be human with the dragon balls.
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>>388952771
>>388952863
>>388953670
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>>388954291
kid goku gt is just adult goku but small
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>>388976737
Exactly
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Once Gotenks is eventually confirmed what would his level 3 be? Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack or Buu Buu Volleyball?
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Post Piccolo Combo WebM
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>>388977289
Victory Cannon
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>>388977289
Can someone give me the rundown on how supers work? Is Level 3 the highest? Because I see you can have 7 super bars, so it doesn't seem that high
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>>388977390
no depth
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>>388977652

>three counter hits

Playing well against a five-year-old isn't impressive
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When's Pikkon and Hit, I need my triple Piccolo team?
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>>388977891
sequel
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>>388977852
Eh, first hit was an ambiguous crossup and the second one was an empty jump into a low. This stuff could work on a pretty good player since the game is so new. I'm guessing it will be a few weeks until people consistently know which side they need to block piccolos teleport drop punch move.
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>>388977515
Every super has amount of super bar it costs. The most damaging supers cost 3 or in case of Gohan you can extend to 5. 7 bars gives you leeway to do extra shit in your combos like Vanish Attack, EX moves and DHCs.
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>>388977652
Not this one. The one where he gets Frieza from 100% to 5% HP.
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>>388977891
Wish King Piccolo had a chance, he fought differently enough to Piccolo jr
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>>388972853
>>388974327
>>388975829
>>388975885
I should've just watched this video instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWM04zsxKMw

Seems like a hack fraud went up the ranks and fucked the franchise
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>>388977891
Piccolo, King Piccolo and Nail, the triple dosage team
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>>388963263
This, tucking autistic nips.
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>>388978472
you know Devilman unironically has one of the most broken attacks in the universe. Why exactly did he never catch on? Did losing a fight and getting killed once ruin his motivation?
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>>388978231
Oh okay so fighting revolves around super bar management?
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>>388979481
A lot of strong DBZ enemies would actually survive their heart exploding. Even the Z fighters could probably survive it with a bean
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>>388978472
>Devilman
You're alright anon
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>>388979481
Yajirobe syndrome, strong as fuck character would be broken if they just trained a little more
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since Gero's jp VA died 3 years ago we will get 19
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>>388979830
20 doesn't have much move wise anyway, he wasn't much of a fighter
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>>388979481
>once
twice actually since everyone but Hercule died at least once
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>>388979924
but retards insist on him over 19
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>>388979951
Three times if you count the alternate timeline where the universe got deleted
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>>388979751
every human can be strong as fuck if they train Yajirobe is nothing special
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>>388979830
>>388980093
>19 and 20 could have been the androids that destroyed the future but it was changed last minute to 17 and 18 because the editor thought their designs were too old-fashioned

shit sucks. They were way more intimidating than 17 and 18, and they actually seemed like they could have killed everybody with their energy draining gimmick.
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>>388980198
Yajirobe was strong as fuck without training, he could become Golden Yajirobe like Freeza
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>>388978659
so this is the fuck responsible for the plastic designs of the 2000s
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>>388971278
>No I don't need to watch the anime to judge the animation quality
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>388978256
More like 66% to 5% after spending 7 bars. Watch it again, damage in that game is ridiculously low.
>>
Out of these, which one will make people rage more when they are revealed?
-19
-Nappa
-Dabura
-Ginyu
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>>388978659
Well the thing is his art used to be incredible there's no doubt about that
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>>388980334
you know he trained with kami popo and korin and he is still weak as fuck plus before that he was a ronin
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>>388962308
>literally everyone conveniently forgets about supers good moments so they can shit on it
>cherry picks the good animation from other DBZ and DBGT so they can say it's better
makes you think
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>>388980934
and then eventually it just became this.
Which is still kinda good, but everyone looks more stiff and not nearly as expressive
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>>388980934
>>388981039
this is the exact reason why super is so shit
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>>388960806
Even when it looks "good" it's still bad because everyone looks different in a worse "modernized" casualized kind of way. And it doesn't help that the new characters all look terrible outside of a goku clone and zamasu.

I feel like the only one they're giving proper respect (in terms of personality too) to from the past is Frieza.

>>388961135
>rewatch dbz recently
>caught up on super
Yea, no, this is the weakest deflection from superfags, Z looks a ton better and Super often looks comically bad. And yes,3 even cherrypicked Z bad art is worlds better than Super's.
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>>388978256
>>388977390
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>>388980791
I wouldn't be too happy with Ginyu seeing as he doesn't have enough moves from the source material to fill out a movelist.
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>>388980973
DBS is literally 98% shit animation with 0 effort put into it. The only good animation is in 1 or 2 important fights.
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>>388980973
That's good for Super, but it isn't good.
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>>388980973
I like how Goku stops dodging around 0:05 yet that other guy still keeps on missing.
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>>388980791
19. Nappa and Ginyu are Freiza and Saiyan saga big guys, they got fans and Ginyu has TOKUSENTAI while Nappa has murdering half the cast and TFS memes.

Dabura has a coolish design being the King of Demons, I can see people saying he doesn't deserve it over others but not upset that HE, specifically, took them, just that a spot was taken at all instead of for one of their favorites.

19 is just a weird, bigger Chaoitzu, has one lame fight against Vegeta, then dies and is never mentioned again. I'm willing to bet most people don't even remember him since 16-18 were all more interesting and cooler than him, not to mention Cell himself takes the main stage.
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>>388981182
His supers would be the rest of the Ginyu Force, so they would fight as a team, this has been discussed
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>>388980934
God damn that is so good
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Best girl better make it in.
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>>388980973
>Goku and Black fighting on a giant watermelon.webm
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>>388981271
She won't.
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>>388946001
Isnt Bardock more of a villain? I know he did some good stuff near the end, but so did android 16 and hes classified as a villain as well.
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>>388981271
I want to touch her poofy hair
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>>388981267
and its a dumb idea, just like any other character that has to rely on assists.
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>>388981135
6 meters and didnt even kill
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>>388981379
Bardock was just a soldier
He's more neutral than anything
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>>388981416
>and it's a dumb idea
t. Dumb faggot who hasn't played DBZ games
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>>388981271
Sorry but the only important woman in DBZ who fights is already in. We'd sooner see Bulma in a mech than some literally who goon from a movie
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>>388981221
you literally cannot be serious. this moment alone is better animated than literally everything in DBZ and all of DBGT. fuck off, nostalgiafag.
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>>388981849
excessive shitposting isn't healthy for you
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>>388980973
The horrible color palette, VERY cheap digital effects (instead of the old brush-like auras and pencil ki blasts) and badly executed squash 'n' stretch ruin that animation, sorry.

I'm aware that you're underage, but animating with more frames doesn't automatically make it better. Look at this screenshot I took, they doesn't understand anatomy, a leg doesn't bend this way and it didn't even work for effect, it just looks poorly executed and stiff. Yes it just appears for a fraction of a second but when every fraction of a second looks this bad your eyes easily pick it up.

Btw notice the horrible cheap Photoshop motion.blur they use for the leg instead of drawn speed lines? Makes me want to puke.
FUN FACT: I added the same shit motion-blur to his hand, did you even see it?
Super is SO BAD that even lazy photoshops like mine go unnoticed
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>>388978659
Yeah, AnimeAjay is generally a good resource for learning this stuff. Yamamuro was once great, but I think his work on One Piece and shit like that really helped him fall off when it comes to DB design. Age has to be a factor, too.
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>>388982089
when will retards learn that it doesn't matter how a still frame looks if it looks good n motion
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>>388982260
>implying super looks good in motion
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>>388982260
But it doesn't look good in motion.
When nearly all frames look bad how can you expect the animation to look good? "Motion" is just all the bad frames put together, so yes looking at a bad frame proves quite a lot, especially when I could take 40 more screenshots and every single one of those frames would be just as bad.
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>>388982482
>But it doesn't look good in motion.
looks good to me and most people
>When nearly all frames look bad how can you expect the animation to look good?
ANIMATION 101
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>>388980198
Not at all, Krillin is only strong because of what Guru did to him. Tien does nothing but train but is pathetic outside of one unique attack that he knows. Humans are garbage in DBZ, accept it already.
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>>388982089
>>388982482
What about this?
>>
two questions: where do i start with dragon ball (as in, which series?) and where online do i watch it? i don't really watch anime so i don't know

i liked dragonball as a kid whenever i caught it on cartoon network but i never really got into it. now that DBZF is coming out and i mostly just play fighting games, i'd like to watch it so i can get into the game more
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>there are people who think this looks good
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>>388982725
Read the manga
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>>388982671
it looks ok
the characters are well animated however the main problem super has is that the characters don't blend well with the enviroment and the backgrounds
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>>388982725
You can read the manga, it's generally way better even if Viz's translations fucking suck. You can find it on MangaSeeOnline.

But if you just want to watch the series, start with Dragon Ball. You can find it on Nyaa for download, and just about any website streams it. Just keep in mind that the quality of the subs and video will be pretty poor from website to website, which is why downloading is generally favorable. There's a fillerless fan cut online known as the "Dragonball Recut," you can find it if you Google it, it should also be on Nyaa.

Then you have two options. Z or Kai. Kai is basically a recut of Z that strips the filler down. With Kai, you get new performances by the old voice actors to varying degrees of success. The original Funimation dub of Z was atrocious because it changed the story up a lot to make it more palatable to the American youth, it added a lot of nonsensical things and it could have very well been another series. The Funimation dub for Kai sticks closer to the original intention of the series, and the new voice actors that were getting DBZ as their first gig have since honed their craft. With the Japanese version of Kai, you have a lot of the same staff returning, their performances just lack a bit when it comes to raw vocal quality due to age. Soundtracks are changed as well.

Z is massive though, so I would suggest Kai for someone that's entirely new to the series. It has a lot of issues, but the length isn't as daunting. However, if you read the manga first, I encourage you to watch DB and Z as they are. Language choice is up to you. I generally prefer the Japanese version, but dubbed Kai sticks close enough to the script that I don't mind watching it very much at all.
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>>388982671
Not him, but while this is one of Super's best sequences, it's pretty spastic so it isn't very interesting to me. I think Shida's modern style sucks because it sacrifices everything that goes into a good scene for raw speed. It's like a sandwich with too much shit in it.
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This thread is not even about a game you fucking faggots, if I wanted to see people shitting on Super I would just go to /a/, discuss the fucking game or fuck off
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>>388984059
>Super Buu
There's one guy that won't make it into the game. Gohan really did get the last laugh. ;_;
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guys can I expect my CaC from xenoverse to be in???
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>>388983405
thanks
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>>388984059
>implying gohan posting is much better
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>>388984193
No. This is an actual fighting game.
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>>388982260
I looks like shit in motion you delusional faggot.
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>>388984193
no botton masher characters allowed
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>>388984218
No problem dude. Don't hesitate to ask if you need anything else.
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>>388980973
>pinks face while he's shooting the pink lasers
This isn't how you cherrypick lad
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>>388984235
We can do both if you really want the thread to go to shit
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>>388984453
no go away /a/
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>>388984453
>>388984235
Please don't do this.
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>>388984487
>>388984552
Too late
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>>388982671
>388982671
discussed already ITT.

tldr it's shit.
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So at the Gamescon interview by that one dude that looks like Luigi, the game producer said that they hadn't unveiled all of the game mechanics. What are you hoping for?
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>>388984353
No it looks nice
stop being contrarian you fuck
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>>388984605
>>388984453
>>388984059
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>>388984749
I'm hoping for ULTIMATE GODHOOD CHADhan with the best moveset in the entire game
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why do you guys keep calling gohan a chad? hes like the farthest thing from

niggas a nerd
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>>388984839
Living in the past baby? let me give you a reminder
>gohan is now fighting in the ToP to save the universes
>buu is a ooor poo in the loo in some shithole

Buucucks WILL defend this
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Team
>Teen highschool fucker chad/mystic disrespectful chad/ Piccolo
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>>388984989
Because this is canon buddy, Gohan is a confirmed chad slaying Idol pussy even while being married
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>>388985148
Best team
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>>388985165
nigga is a nerd who just so happens to not be ugly.

mothafucker is shaggy levels of goofy
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>>388985382
He is the ultimate chad buddy, he gets the pussy by being himself, while he also regained his gains
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>>388985165
>Videl was okay with being cucked
why do they try so hard to ruin her character
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>>388985712
>try
They already did ruin her character
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>>388943457
>When There's No Buyon
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>>388985712
Gohan is quite simply the best and even if he's cheating on you you should consider yourself lucky.
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