Monster Hunter World for PS4 Hindered Monster Hunter XX Sales

>>388937523
So no 3ds for us? Fuck I'm gonna have to play generations!?

>>388937523
It didn't do well cause MHXX has been out for the 3ds for a while now in Japan.

>>388937523
>monster hunter has been degraded to console war shitposting
Is this the worst timeline?

And you guys still complain that XX isn't being localized this instant

>>388937701
Has been since Tri was successful on the Wii.

>>388937731
>make an HD version of your ~5 months old game
>don't release it in the regions that would have actually bought it
The west is the only place where this would have sold as we have not had XX on the 3DS for months now.

>>388937701
>No More Heroes has now joined MH in that club

Oh boy, can't wait to see which niche franchise is used by /v/ next!

Karma for flopcom

>>388937857
>/v/ next!
Bayonetta 3

>>388937523
>XX sells Meh
>World will sell Meh
you had 1 job Capcom

>>388937820
I have no doubt in my mind that it'll be localized eventually but how retarded can you be if you think it's smart to release two games with similar titles within the same year. Neither would sell as much as they should and it would only confuse new potential customers.

>>388937701
>>388937857
/v/ just thrives on negativity. Yakuza is still a PS-only franchises yet they found their own reason to fight among themselves. Zelda is obviously always Nintendo but with every new game, this time BotW, come fights about which one is the best and how the newest surely ruined the series forever

It's all about excuses to shitpost

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>Rerelease on a console that doesn't have nearly have the same appeal as the 3DS
Gee I fucking wonder why.

>>388938165
more like nearly the usebase.

>>388938165
>>388938345
which just proves how incompetent Capcom is at making projections

>>388938165
>releasing the same game TWICE in a region BUT don't release it in the region that would have bought it.

>>388937857
>Monhun
>Dragon Quest
>No More Heroes
When will it end?

>>388938345
Same difference. The game was already released twice on the 3DS, why the hell did they think that would work?

>>388937643

XX was never going to be localized because Capcom didn't want to confuse people with two new games at roughly the same time. World is what they want to give to the West because Japan thinks we're too stupid for regular Monster Hunter.

>>388938384
But that's still assuming Capcom expected 100% of the shipment to be immediately sold, we're all just speculating honestly

>>388937523
i would happily buy both

Maybe this will have capcom thinking about localizing to make up for lost sales.

I can hope

>>388938515
>Gen shit
> regular Monster Hunter.
The bait is getting elaborate.

>>388937523

They mean 3ds.

>>388938760
No they don't.

>Re-release of a game like a year after it was just out on a system with 5x the userbase sells less
No shit?

>>388938661

Or, more realistically, it just cements their decision to not localize XX, instead pushing World more.

>>388937523
I'd say it was more because capcom was jewing the fanbase with the re-release of the same game people got a few months before, but what do i know

>>388938740
Well memed

>>388939142
but I wanna play both games

>>388938851

Yes they do.

>>388939619
Just play XX with an english patch

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>>388937523
Shake more because i'm gonna cum.

>>388939619
Just buy the Switch XX, shit's easy to play in japanese.

>>388937857
Not really, the NMH stuff seems like just normal shitposting that happens whenever Switch gets a game or doesn't.

Or you know, it's barely a graphical upgrade for a game that's been out for almost half a year already, whichever.

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Let's see

>actual graphical innovation

vs

>the same old shit since PS2 days


REALLY makes me think

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>>388937523
So did the Switch version release after the 3DS version? and They aren't aware of how dumb things turned out and are claiming World hindered the sales when really they know everyone played it on the 3DS already in Japan if anything it's more of a reason to release XX overseas since worlds isn't due till next year.

>>388940116
Since mid march. If it was a switch launch title it may have done better.

>>388940105
to bad World will likely be a bigger money sink cause higher dev cost that wont pay off on sales

>>388937523
>MHXX NA release never ever

probably because they want to push World and lack of sales in Moonland but still

FUCK

>>388940235
>New MH games (not re-releases) >Selling anything less than 3 million copies
Good joke
And they'll be reusing the assets for the next 10 years so it'll more than pay for itself

>>388940318
>the "all pokemon regions game" of monster hunter games
>filthy gaijins can never touch it
wew

>>388940370
>And they'll be reusing the assets for the next 10 years so it'll more than pay for itself
>i-it does not matter if world flops, cause teh otehr games will be shit without effort so they will somehow recover costs that way!!!!
never, ever, try to run a business, please

>>388940437
>pretending XX is an all regions game
LMAO, featuring the worst maps in their respective gens. Besides generations has all the hub towns of XX except for the brand new airship.

>>388940192
Seems like it if they had released it over seas on the Switch it could have done better but the way I see it they will pull a Megaman Legends and make some dumb excuse about how there's no interest which is a shame I really wanted to try that new armor transmog system would have been great to clown suit and have looks too.

>localize stories but not XX
They do realize stories will sell like 10 copies, right?

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>>388939619

>>388937996
2 did a pretty good job of that already.

>>388940625
its obvious capcom is trying to undercut XX in favor of World

>>388940602
Problem is world was on the back burner. It typically takes capcom a while to localize something so they are probably worried it would cannibalize sales being too close together.

>>388940673
just like how Square lied about DQ PS4 sales vs 3DS

>>388940705
Source? very interested in this one.

maybe it was xx being shit that hindered xx sales

>>388940370
>And they'll be reusing the assets for the next 10 years so it'll more than pay for itself
Nah, World is the big flagship that's gonna be a DLC platform which I welcome. They can easily sell like 30+ dollar expansions with a new map or two and some new monsters to make new gear out of. If MHW sells well which it most likely will, then it'll be the primary focus of the main team for many years to come while B team keeps putting out anime handheld garbage with reused assets.

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>>388940758

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>>388937523
>A sequel to the worst spinoff in a stagnant series sells poorly on a system no one cares about
stop the presses

>>388937523
>as if this wasn't obvious

Why do people care about the shitty spinoff world? It's being made by some shitty canadian devs ffs. Basically a westernized monster hunter that's less canon than frontier.

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>>388940923
>on a system no one cares about
you were so close to be that non faggot anon

>>388940896
I think you're taking that a bit too literal. The 3ds has a huge install base compared to the ps4 in japan. The similar numbers are the startling point here.

>>388940975
Hello nintendie. World has been worked on by the main team for 5 years while the B team shat out handheld garbage to fund World.

>>388940983
You post that chart all you want but in 2 years you'll see how right i was.

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>>388941141
>You post that chart all you want but in 2 years you'll see how right i was.

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>>388941049
Source: my ass


This subhuman negro numale is one of the devs lmao, this game is gonna be pure trash. I'll wait for Monster Hunter 5 exclusive for the nintendo switch. Try harder soniger

>>388940551
It's not gonna flop, Nintenfag

>>388941049
>to fund World.
an investment that wont pay off cause Capcom is retarded,

or, how much copies you think World will sell??

>>388937857
just wait till Yakuza gets ported to PC
im enjoying the discussion while it lasts

>>388941269
>>388941294
They predict 1.5 mil as their sales goal for a 4 year dev cycle

>Announce major game while it can still impact sales of the current game
>Repeatedly

Why are capcom so retarded?

>>388941294
>or, how much copies you think World will sell??
Can you try to type less like a subhuman, thanks

>>388941212
>This subhuman negro numale is one of the devs
that pixel art is a dev?
>this game is gonna be pure trash
t. nintendie
>I'll wait for Monster Hunter 5 exclusive for the nintendo switch
They already said World is monster hunter 5

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just buy the jap version

>>388941414
>They already said World is monster hunter 5
>Don't have the balls to call it mh5 because they know it's gonna flop hard

Sonegro get the fuck off my board back to neofag, scum.

>>388937701
>Implying Nintendo fanboys didn't started that shit when they got Tri.
It's called karma.

>>388941478
>Don't have the balls to call it mh5 because they know it's gonna flop hard
Source: my ass

>>388941578
I wanna check your source with my cock if you know what I mean.

>>388941478
>Don't have the balls to call it mh5 because they know it's gonna flop hard
It's a marketing tactic to make it more appealing to newer players. They'd be more inclined to check out a shiny new game called WORLD rather than something that's #5 in a series. It's mainline and #5 already confirmed by the devs.

>>388937523
>Crapcom being retarded and shooting themselves in the foot
I can't believe people still get surprised by this.

>>388941380
>They predict 1.5 mil as their sales goal for a 4 year dev cycle
>Sales goal for XX was 2Mil
yeah right, 1.5M my ass

>>388941489
>but m-mun nitendo fanboys!
das rite boy, we console warrior are good boi, we dindu nuffin

>>388941726
I believe it's 5, but it's not the first time capcom has lied about something in relation to the monster hunter series.

>>388941726
>healing while running
>you can use your item box on quests meaning infinite potions
>changing equipment while mid quest
>instant teleporting to camp
>eating in camp
>mounting shit even more cancerous
>no pickaxes, it's now automatic
>infinite net
>infinite fishing bait
>Potion recipe : 1 herb. mushroom not needed anymore probably even more shit dumbed down

This game is shitting all over MH fans to pander to a wider audience.

>>388941478
>>388941049
>>388941414
>>388941212
Samefag.

>>388941726
>It's a marketing tactic
the same reason why they are not calling it 5, its a fail safe, so if things go south they can claim its a side project and release a titled 5 later

>>388941765
I owned a wii and tri so try again.
Don't try to hide yourself behind a neutral stance, you got what you deserve for starting this shit years ago.

>>388941738
Mochizuki a PR on twitter that leaked that switch will get mhxx also said mcvi 2 mil i will get the link soon to show you

>>388941896
>being a console warrior
>muh victimization
>muh revenge

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>>388941867
Nice try though.

I am just glad its multi-platform now.
Now everyone but the Switch is getting it. And the Switch is a pile of shit hardware anyway.

>>388941896
>outright admit you've been seething over electronic toys for years
. . .

>>388942059
uh....

>>388942059
>Console warring cuck is an unironically samefags
Why am I not surprised? Are you this >>388941961 subhuman as well

>>388941863
You post this a lot and every single time you get BTFO you just leave the thread so let's go again
>healing while running
It's healing over time while moving really slowly and if you get hit you lose the whole heal. You're telling me that's more casual than instantly regaining a large portion of your HP?
>you can use your item box on quests meaning infinite potions
What kind of shitter even uses more than 3 megas a hunt. It's to accommodate the new mechanic of endless hunting so you don't have to go back to the village unless you want to do some crafting.
>changing equipment while mid quest
See above, it's also in no way casualization
>instant teleporting to camp
What is a farcaster for 500. Again, this is less casualized because you can't do it while a monster is aggro'd on you unlike a farcaster which is far more casual.
>eating in camp
Oh no
>mounting shit even more cancerous
Not an argument
>no pickaxes, it's now automatic
>infinite net
>infinite fishing bait
Are you serious nigger, nobody cares
>potion recipe
When did you ever craft potions when you can buy them for dirt cheap

>>388942253
>It's fine just dont use it
>who cares

You're fucking cancer.

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>>388942113
>>388942249
>nintendie is also a falseflagger who knows how to inspect element
good job
no matter HOW BADLY you cry and whine, your shitty little fisher price toys are never getting another mainline monster hunter again.

>>388942374
Nice photoshop there, friend. At least you tried.

>>388941738
Found it https://mobile.twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/899566288279818240

>>388942374
>covering your ass now
Should have just deleted it and moved on.

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>>388942059
>>388942374

????

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maybe it has something to do with the fact that it's a G rank version of a spinoff ported to a console with 1/20th of the install base that was announced after the original was out and flopped too

>>388942253
>Yes
>Doesn't refute his point
>Doesn't refute his point
>Doesn't refute his point
>One is infinite while the other is not
>Doesn't refute his point
>Doesn't refute his point
>Doesn't refute his point
>Doesn't refute his point

Whoa that was hard

>>388938165
More like
>release a port 4 months after everyone bought the original

>>388942497
Those aren't Capcom's predictions of the sales, those are the predictions of a financial analyst.

>>388938515
>Gen 3/4 shitter implying MHW is casualized a spinoff
never gets old

>>388942497
thats either a lie, wrong of Capcom is just out right trying to (again) betray Nintendo cause there is no fucking way in god green land that HD mon hun expect to sell 1.5M when fucking refried franken XX was called at flop on 1.6M

>>388942765
>>388942745
>>388942637
>>388941961
Who even makes these pictures? Like, holy shit, who has enough time to shit these out near constantly?

>>388938165
>Rerelease on a console that doesn't have nearly have the same appeal as the 3DS
Yeah I don't get it

>It's portable!!
-But way too big to be nearly as convenient as a 3DS, also no clamp-shell design and a large screen with a body made of 3 different parts, making it more fragile. I'd be way too worried to carry it around casually.
-Battery is as bad as OG 3DS
-Also more expensive than current homeconsoles
-Also paid online on a portable
-Also need to use my phone at the same time even if I don't want to voice chat (some invites/lobby creation on Splatoon2 is phone-exclusive)

>>388942745
>He thinks "oh no" and "nobody cares" are actual arguments
Lmao, take a look at this fag.

>>388942870
Someone who is waiting for greatness

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>Nintendo fanboys are STILL seething while in the same breath ask for the shittiest addition to the shittiest spinoff series to be localized.

>>388937523
They finally released a Monster Hunter on a portable platform with a sane control scheme and it failed? wtf

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>>388942374
>>388942553
>>388942059

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>>388943034
i-it'll fail

>>388942765
>>388942848
>>388942856
>>388942942
>>388943034
>>388943137
And people say Nintendo fans are the ones who ruin MH threads.

>>388937523
>talk like its a ps4 exclusive just to clickbait consolewarfags
>when its also on pc
generatios was dogshit so they deserve it anyways

>>388942865
Mhxx flopped therefore they have a conservative outlook mh on console highest peak is 2 mil on the wii with an insane 13 mil in japan which only 1 mil gave a fuck

>>388943304
MH World is exclusive in Japan tho

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>>388939819
English patches are almost always incomplete and shit.

>>388943375
its not about expectation, but about gains, unless capcom went full retard on XX expectations, there is not way XX was more expensive to make than World which alreadh have more assets, bigger team, bigger marketing, and global licensing, rights, distribution, not counting royalties and stuff to Steam, Sony and Microsoft

>>388942870
It's not a hard image to make. You just put the stock face on an old MSpaint comic that's been around since 2007 and you're done. There is no reason to be upset anon. Those images are literally always in jest and are not serious. Go back to playing your switch.

>>388943518
Lucky you dont need to understand shit to play Monster Hunter.

>>388943605
and the most important shit is all translated. Like seriously, you really need to read the awful puns and typos the npcs talk about?

>>388943520
They thought they were king of japan turns out making a game in their 4 gen 4.5 times makes people wait for next gen

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MHXX HD: 84,277
MH3G HD: 106,388 (Wii U console debut)
MHP3 HD: 287,829

Does anyone have any archived threads from E3? I wasn't around and I REALLY wanna see the initial Nintenbro butthurt

>>388943686
B-B-BUT MH DOESNT HAVE A FANBASE ON PS
STOP POSTING

>>388943686
You forgot mhtrii wii total sales 2 mil on the second most sold console with an install base of 13 mil

>>388943686
>MH3G HD: 106,388 (Wii U console debut)
>holidays on a new console

>MHP3 HD: 287,829
>holiday on a consoles 3 years in the market
no shit sherlock

all were a flop ultimately

>>388943814
We are talking about HD re-releases here bud. Context.

>>388943686
Now post the userbase of each console when the games came out.

>>388943892
>context
>doesn't take in consideration the userbase of the consoles
POTTERY

>>388937523
NOOOOOOOO

W-WHAT HAPPENED NINTENBROS?!!!

I THOUGHT WE WERE UNITED!!!!

>>388943882
Everything's a flop after P3rd. Why even bother?

>>388941418
I dont wanna play with a fucking spreadsheet next to me translating all the Skill Names.

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>>388943979
>Wii U console debut
Yep

How about this for context? The ratio of HD sales over base version sales

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>>388943686
where is your fucking God now??
>MHTri: 520,00

>>388943259
Sonyfags aren't people, anon.

>>388944083
>needing skills outside of atk+

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>All my friends that are Monster Hunter fans are super happy its going multiplat and receiving a much needed overhaul
>My one Switch friend wants to sell his Switch after beating Zelda (lol)

Literally seems to be Switch fags that always blow this up and want Capcom to regress instead of the best interest of the series. I personally more games follow Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter and move away from Nintendo for good, this way we can have actual improvements and less limitations. Give Nintendo the downgraded ports if you make a below average game, otherwise NEVER make it a primary platform because that shit is weak as fuck.

I can't believe I'm saying it but Switch owners are so much worse than Wii U owners, holy fuck. More obnoxious by several orders of magnitude.

>>388943814
Tri was the newest release, it wasn't a port. It didn't get a 3DS version until much later.

>>388944352
See >>388943892

Also, MHXX debuted at only 850k

>>388937523
I hate monster hunter now

>>388944496
Ironically, most people own and prefer the PS4 over the Switch and this will never change.
It's kinda strange how you fight the masses to appear as some special club, while supporting a company that treats you like a child, sells you toys, and outdated hardware for ridiculous prices.

You aren't a "person" by the same extent.

>>388944817
Oh I'm not a nintendofag mate.

>>388944683
We are about to get stardew valley on a portable and mario odyssey comes out next month.

plus the shit ton of other games.

We did not lose

>>388944958
>we have nothing to play until late october
>W-We didn't lose

>>388945038
Try this month, also rabbids just came out.

>>388943892
>We are talking about HD re-releases here bud. Context.
>proceeds to just give out sales number without taking into userbase size
listen here you little shit

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>>388945107
>rabbids

>>388945216
k

>>388945157
Yeah. It's unfair to Wii U because it had 0 userbase when MH3G HD was released. Shame on Capcom for never releasing any MH title on a level playing field.

>>388944817
own, perhaps. Prefer? Who knows...

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>>388937523
That means jack shit, PS4 is a blunder in Japan. XX sold as expected from a port in a console with a growing userbase.

>>388937523
[insert crying nintenbro wojak here]

>>388945107
Did you just said that sentence?

>>388945232
So again, Switch has literally nothing until October. Then it has nothing again until Kirby comes out

THE SWITCH IS A HAND HELD.

GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS YOU DUMB HIGH SCHOOL BABIES

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>>388945391
what?

>>388945391
I just said it has games this month as well.

wtf is your problem

>>388945453
>Minecraft
>Neogeo Roms
>Indie shit that's also on PC/PS4/Xbone
>Wii U ports

*puke

>>388945453
You should know that video games aren't allowed on /v/ any more.

>>388945453
>ARMS, which won't be worth buying until all the updates are out
>ports that run better on PC
>Splatoon 1: Pay $60 again edition

It's fucking nothing

>>388945714
Nintendo with "fucking nothing" came within 8% of the glorious "best console of all time" PS4 operating income last quarter. How sad is that?

seriously, why cant we have both world and XX
>fucking western release never

>>388945935
shit so your a stockholder? good to know
so where are the games

>>388946064
Because Capcom want to ruin all of their series and abandon their fans as usual.

>>388937523
2006-05-09: Announced development of PS3 "Monster Hunter 3" at "Capcom Official Press Release"

2007-09-20: Announced Monster Hunter Portable 2ndG at Tokyo Gameshow 2007

2007-10-10: Announced Monster Hunter 3 for Wii, PS3 version cancelled at "Nintendo conference

2007 Autumn"

2008-03-27: Monster Hunter Portable 2ndG released

>>388946125
>so where are the games
out there, but you have to leave the butthurt bubble 1st

>>388942253
> moving really slowly
it really isn't. you can dash while healing and it's near sprint speed.

>>388946142
>abandon their fans as usual.
Most of the fans only put up with NIntendo consoles for the franchise.

Stop making it seem like MH is a Nintendo thing.

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>>388937523
No matter how you look at it, Capcom dropped the ball here. MHXX Switch version should have been announced and released at the same time as the 3DS version. Even worse, MHW should've been annunced only after XX was available worldwide to avoid all this clusterfuck. If XX is not coming to the west at all, Capcom is basically putting all their eggs into a single basket which will most likely hilariously backfire, since it's fucking Capcom and there's no way MHW will deliver on all the hype they're trying to generate.

Sony won.

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>>388941489
>It's called karma.
This.

>>388946195
So Nintendo bought out Tri? I don't get it.

>Capcom is basically putting all their eggs into a single basket
It's multiplat, if anything that increases the chances of it reaching more people. What the hell are you talking about?
People will never choose XX over World.

>>388941863
You can literally buy a potion. Who the fuck gives a shit what the recipe is?

>>388946379
The point is that MHP2G was released after MH3 announcement on a rival platform but to great success regardless.

SOMEONE PLEASE FIND ME AN ARCHIVE THREAD OF WORLD'S ANNOUNCEMENT

A CAN'T FIND ONE. WAS THE NINTENDRONE SALT DELICIOUS?

>>388946373
Christ, Nintendo fanboys are something else.

>>388937731
You can play it with everything important to gameplay translated. I have been

>>388946263
>Stop making it seem like MH is a Nintendo thing.
You're the only one doing that you know.
I'm talking about the people who liked having local play.
The people who didn't want their hand held with fireflies.
The people who didn't want anime moves forced on them.
The people who didn't want a grappling hook as a means to continue a botched mounting attempt.

You know, the fans of the series instead of the kids who only want a title.

>>388946520
It was pretty explosive and lasted multiple threads.
Then people said Monster Hunter 5 is Switch exclusive.
Then people called World casualized and a Western Monster Hunter.
Now we just have a few salty Switch fags spouting its the worst game ever and XX being definitive.

>>388946628
So skip MHW. Vote with your wallet like everyone else who didn't buy the 3DS MH games.

>>388946628
>their hand held with fireflies.
So you never used phychoserum?

> anime moves forced on them.
So you haven't played Generations at all? With literal weapon dodge that are flips?

>a grappling hook as a means to continue a botched mounting attempt.
Mounting has been around since 4U and was easy to use and had diminishing returns. It was easy to NOT botch in the first place, you just tap a button or hold another.

I'm beginning to understand this >>388946721
a lot more. Switch fags are the only cancer here.

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Has there been a substantial increase in PS4 sales in japan following World's announcement?

>>388946263
>the only people who are upset are Nintendofags
You're not really getting this, Nintendofags never cared about Monhun one bit. In these threads the only ones complaining about World and not localizing XX are the fans of the series.

>>388946379
>It's multiplat, if anything that increases the chances of it reaching more people. What the hell are you talking about?
>People will never choose XX over World.
what do you think Frontier was?? a fucking iOS game??

Capcom got swindled to make an HD mon hun, and give its pushing it over XX or even trying to localize XX, it means they are clearly desperate for it to succeed.

which likely it wont cause it will at best sell 3M copies, that is 1M less than 4 on what is not about 7-9 times the userbase (PS4+ XBONE + PC)

>>388946937
>defending free fuck up recovery because the mechanic was so easy it was hard to fuck up to begin with
Not him but c'mon man.

>>388946975
>are the fans of the series
try saying that on /mhg/

>>388947092
BUt its not free, it requires stamina.

>>388944568
Moar.

>>388940923
IS THAT

>>388946975
Yes, we all know the true MH fans are upset about MHXX localization and are also upset about MHW casualizations. I'm a true MH fan myself.

>>388947141
I meant it as a free do over without having to set it up again, but I'm sure you knew that and just wanted to argue semantics

>>388946975
>only ones complaining about World and not localizing XX are the fans of the series.

Uhhh, are you retarded? XX is one of the worst entries in the series. Ask in the general, or ANY huge MH fanboy. Look at GaijinHunter, his latest video said he didn't even like the XX Switch version because it was messy and had too much repeated content.

>>388947039
A financial analyst that works with capcom predicted 1.5 mil https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/899566288279818240

>>388945714
>>ports that run better on PC
such as?

>>388947271
Its not a full setup if you start with already depleted stamina.

>>388945634
portability

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What's your excuse Switchdrones?

>>388947305
so again, capcom is lying, or being retarded, there is no way you go all out with a bag to sell 1/3 of what fucking 4 sold on fucking 3DS. when likely was more expensive to make

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>>388947305
Did you even read the replies?

>>388947296
>GaijinHunter
Yes, I'm sure he's trustworthy and wasn't paid to promote MHW at all.
Did you believe all youtube views of the announcement trailers were genuine too?

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Who wrote this and how do they know World is the only thing at fault? I'm not saying they're wrong, it just seems a bit presumptuous. It's unlikely, but maybe Capcom actually saw this shit coming and that's why they bailed.

>>388947296
> Look at GaijinHunter, his latest video said he didn't even like the XX Switch version
GaijinHunter is also paid to shill MHW so who cares

>>388947398
Something that most adults don't give a shit about because when you go out, you do things that don't involve videogames.

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>>388947484
>>388947471

>>388947482
According to Media Create. It's written there in the OP.

>>388947471
>>388947484
Sources?

>>388947558
I don't even own a Switch but whatever my man.

>>388947467
>capcom Knows world will not meet costs
>purposely sets a low bar so no matter what they can tell the game reached it projections, so avoiding a PR disaster.
>they hope other games do better money wise to hide out the unbalance of costs and incomes in WORLD development
Capcom its truly a shithole

>>388947551
That has nothing to do with what I said. Portability entails more than just being able to take it out

>>388947467
>randoms disagree
Capcom has a history of over-estimating sales. While it probably will break 1.5M, it probably won't by much unless they break the fucking bank with marketing.

>>388947461
Conservative after Mhxx they thought they could sell you g rank for 40 after the game was mediocre.
>>388947467
I did that is still what they expect because they are releasing on console which only has sold top 1 mill in japan on a 13 mil console and the series in a decline.

>>388947742
Capcom has been doing fine for both MH and now the RE franchise. I'd say you can take or leave some things.

I hope MHW does amazingly well to continue this trend of developing Monster Hunter games.

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>>388947742
They've been posting profits every quarter tho

>>388947892
>now the RE franchise.
Why do you say "now"? RE7 sold less than RE6

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This wasn't supposed to happen....

>>388947897
Does she even own a ps4 though also Mh is a local co-op game online defeats the purpose of that game in japan

>>388947891
>Conservative after Mhxx they thought they could sell you g rank for 40 after the game was mediocre.
its not about projection but
>We decided to drop what is the userbase that printed us millions for 4 years in favor of a wider audience
>BTW we expect to sell less on this wider audience than what we did before, WE ARE FUCKING SMART!!

>>388947849
>>388947891
Isn't it weird that you guys expect a Switch version to sell over a multiplat between multiple platforms, excluding the Switch?

I'm not sure why you guys are so obsessed with its financial success, but I can see being salty over buying a Nintendo platform with no games.

>>388948038
The purpose of the game is to be played. If the purpose of the game is local co-op, then we wouldn't have this thread since MHXX Switch would be selling well.

>>388948002
Because its a great game. Unlike you, I don't go around looking for numbers to justify what games I play and enjoy.

>>388948036
>current gen cutting edge
so Japan sonygers are as bad as western Sonygers

>>388948036
The last comment mentions MH3rd or 3rd gen yet the Translation does not so i call shenanigans.

>>388948165
Compared to the Switch which is barely better than a PS3, I'd say they're right about "cutting edge" graphics since they don't really have gaming PCs there.

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>HD port of a game that wasn't even that well received in Japland (compared to the last few games) on a console not a lot of Japs own
>blaming it's failure on MHW

>>388948165
What the fuck are you talking about?
Why does enjoying nice visuals and animations upset retards like you that set the bar so fucking low?

Who fucking cares? Let people enjoy their eye candy, and you can continue to justify Gamecube tier visuals with flat textures and primary colors.

>>388948036
>cherrypicking this hard

>>388946937
>So you never used phychoserum?
You realise that psychoserum didn't lead you directly to the monster right? It would show you the position on the map but if was down to you to find the quickest way there before it wore off or before the monster left the area. On top of that you had to make it yourself.
The fireflies on the other hand show a direct route to what you need to find in order so tracks > food > Monster
You are literally having your hand held.
>So you haven't played Generations at all?
Have you? In Generations the movesets are the same as they were previously with no anime moves.
Arts and styles which is what you're referring to were completely optional whereas in World they've now been integrated into the regular moveset.
>Mounting has been around since 4U and was easy to use and had diminishing returns. It was easy to NOT botch in the first place, you just tap a button or hold another.
Uh yeah, that's kind of the point downing a monster easily would be broken without it. Which is part of the reason why Gens increased the threshold for a mount.
Also I like how you haven't even addressed the grappling hook in the slightest, even if mounting was easy to pull off there's no reason to give a player a save in the event of failure. It's existence is a direct sign of casualization.

>Switch fags are the only cancer here
There are no Switchfags anon, only Monster Hunter fans of which you apparently are not given you didn't know half of these things.

>>388948314
>>388948264
see.

>>388948164
Okay, anon, move those goalpoasts then.

>>388948264
>since they don't really have gaming PCs there.
The PC audience is growing actually to the point where a lot of nips are even begging for the PC version over the PS4 one.

>>388948330
>You realise that psychoserum didn't lead you directly to the monster right?
I didn't realize that fireflies carried you to the monster. World is also much more open and has no loading screens. It was always easy as fuck to find the Monster.

>In Generations the movesets are the same as they were previously with no anime moves.
>Arts and styles which is what you're referring to were completely optional
Jesus Christ, you're a moron.

>in World they've now been integrated into the regular moveset.
Ah, which ones?

>Which is part of the reason why Gens increased the threshold for a mount.
Sorry, do you actually know how mounting will work in World? Maybe you should wait and see retard, having access to easy mounts doesn't mean its going to be easy to pull off.

Sure thing, Nintendo fanboy. I want you to go argue these points on Monster Hunter forums please.

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>>388937523

They can't keep getting away with this !!!

you saturate the market with games and fewer people buy each one???? IMPOSSIBLE

>>388948475
>a lot of nips are even begging for the PC version over the PS4 one.
Where?

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>>388946975
Yeah because true fans are aching to play more Gen shit, truly XX is the Holy Grail of MH that was withheld from us

>>388948701
here

>>388948330
>They're completely optional
>But doing World moves are mandatory
fucking hell

>>388948612
I think he's talking about the stuff like LS having a counter now or IG being more aerial, though that move wasn't in any style it just looks like the kind of thing you'd expect from aerial IG

>>388948831
You'd expect movesets to improved between gens.
I don't see the issue. Weapon arts are just taking it much too far. I think the IG is more aerial because it actually has two fucking analogues to use.

>>388948330
>Arts and styles which is what you're referring to were completely optional whereas
So are the new moves.
And fireflies
And mounting
And the grappling hook

What great train of thought there anon, truly you are a modern intellectual.

>>388948113
So you would double dip on a game 4 months after probably finishing it and clocking about 400 hours ya i don't believe it those that bought on switch are hard core fans or didn't buy it on 3ds
>>388948086
This is capcom we are talking about do i have to show a list of errors they made across years.
>>388948087
Anybody that expected this to sell more than 250k was drunk idot or insane or was hoping for a miracle also Multiplatform games do well when they are very well advertised outside of the e3 trailer all other videos are sub 60k and 60k is generous already. This game feeds into grind and well designed boss fights which according to achievements in videogames most people stop after the second boss fight with a drop of 70-80%.They need word of mouth and thousand upon thousand of people that watch streamers to buy it but it ain't pubg where it doesn't matter if the streamer is but if your HR or G rank you aliniate more than 60% of viewers and 20% more if they own xbox without cross play cuz i bet capcom will give them the ps4 version unless they ask for xbox themselves. And finaly paid online with pc release delayed not to mention they have a fiscal year in march so if they release it after pc version after they will have less than 2 mil by far.

>>388948087
When did I say anything about the Switch? I don't own a Switch nor do I want one. I am concerned about the whole "wider audience" shit when it is never good for a series ever.

Is there a worse fanbase than 3DS fans?
>Who cares if the game runs at 240p/15fps and looks like a PS1 game, it's comfy!
>muh local coop, this is clearly a feature exclusive to handhelds and impossible on a home console!
>Monster Hunter doesn't sell well on consoles when you look at their total install base! Who cares that MonHun is literally the only game on 3DS besides Pokemon and everyone is pretty much forced to buy it!

>>388949075
You've yet to prove any sort of extreme casualization. Cherry pick harder I guess?

>>388949057
So why did the 3DS version also bomb? Why did /v/ cover the poor sales by delusions and promises that the people were really waiting for the Switch version

>>388948987
Oh I like that they integrated certain moved from styles into the movesets, that LS counter is pure sex and I'm glad we'll be getting it back in a similar form.

>>388937523
Nice handpicked article anon!

Its not like the game just helped the switch break 1.5m in japan last week

>>388940625
Nintendo are the one paying the bill for Stories localization

>>388937523
W O W

what a surprise...a shitty rehashed sequel on a fisher price tablet is absolute garbage. I never saw this coming...

>>388946937
>Switch fags are the only cancer here.
Switch fags aren't the ones spamming wojaks, cuck. You "people" are the cancer here.

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>>388949415

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>>388947461

>>388949216
Let's see lying that they won't make a G version adding useless early mission like giadrome and congalala still having as many gathering quest they didn't balance any of the styles expect some small tweaks added 2 new styles increased the already ludricrous 10 level deviant to 15 cause why not it's G rank and the biggest offender staing in 4th gen for more than 3 games.Each gen gives new monsters so people wanted 5th gen rather than spinoff G rank...am i forgetting something hmm oh yeah saying please enjoy it on 3ds first jesus was that a bad PR move and then announce 5th gen.

>>388949527
way to prove his point :)

>>388943686
People actually can fucking own PS3's because Sony actually made them. Switch is supply constrained, plus game has been out forever.

>>388949178
I haven't posted any sort of list or anything, so I don't know how you can call me out of cherry picking. Jesus fuck Anon, quit with the assumptions. I'm not interested in you defending certain things that are casualization. It doesn't fucking matter. MHW will come out and do okay enough that Capcom will continue with the trends regardless and we'll end up with the MH version of RE6 in a game or two.

>>388937523
No shit, why would anyone buy that garbage when those who wanted already played it on the 3DS and the objectively superior game is confirmed to be coming out in a few months?

>>388949639
That's why they reduced the sales target to a mere 2 million. Yet it still hasn't reached that target. Didn't even moved any more units last quarter since launch.

>>388949639
Anon, are you having a seizure?

>>388949032
Arts and styles were not part of the weapon movesets and could be disabled, the anime shit in MHWorld are part of the moveset and can't be disabled. If it's forced on the player then it's not optional. Mousnting is also part of the moveset as many attacks cause it.

If you can't understand this, then you might be an actual retard.

>>388937523
Xbox scorpio is going to be the definitive version tho

>>388937523
Wait, world is still like a month away, how can hinder it's sales? A product can only hinder other if both are on sale at the same time.

>>388940975
World is the mainline game, Capcom confirmed it.

>>388949527
Thanks for proving my point, subhuman.

>>388946379
>Choose over

Just bought XX and will buy World PC version. Why do I have to pick either or?

>>388949798
That is just how i type sorry if it's hard to read.
>>388949778
And your point is?

>>388947849
Monster Hunter routinely sells 3 million copies in Japan alone. All the vita owners who got PS4's will buy this, which should reach 1.5 mil in that country itself, unless it's saying 1.5 mil for Japan which I can agree with.

>>388949839
But you need to enter specific intputs to mount or do the new attacks meaning that they are quite literally and by the definition of the word optional to use. Or are arts and style double super optional because they could be locked away behind options?


If you can't understand this, then you might be an actual retard.

>>388949967
Why did it bomb even with a grossly reduced sales target? Wasn't the whole point of MH is local play as you said? By that virtue alone, it should have at least met the sales target.

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>>388948612
>I didn't realize that fireflies carried you to the monster.
Well now you know.
>World is also much more open and has no loading screens.
"open" doesn't mean what you think it does. They're still split off into areas as usual but the lines that connected them are now actual pathways.
>It was always easy as fuck to find the Monster.
And how does that justify making it even easier?

>Jesus Christ, you're a moron.
So you're trying to say that you can't go into a quest without setting it to a style other than Guild and that you have to use the arts?
You do know what the word optional means right?
Generations then.
>Ah, which ones?
Well as this anon mentions >>388948831
Along with the good old aerial hammer spin, that leap into a downward shield bash with the SnS, The aerial attack with Dual Blades that also changes the trajectory of the player, just about everything when it comes to Sword mode on the Swaxe, you swing it like you're Cloud now. Things like that.
You know what though, after watching the video again it seems like these are just the arts from MHX with less effects given that the hammer uses. something similar to the spinning meteor.
> having access to easy mounts doesn't mean its going to be easy to pull off.
You have been watching the reveal videos right? Mounting in World can be done in a single aerial attack just like 4. You know, pre nerf.
It also seems like you can somewhat guide the monster although this is the one part of my post that's more of an educated guess than anything?

>I want you to go argue these points on Monster Hunter forums please.
Yeah because going to a forum filled with people like yourself who are in a constant state of denial and legitimate Capcom shills is going to do anything.

>>388950039
It is a local co-op game. MHtri barely did 1 mill and they expected 2 mill in japan and only DQ has reached over 1 mil in japan.

I've always preferred Nintendo but bought a PSP just for MHF2 and then MHFU. Loved them. Already had Nintendo's systems and was happy with MH there. Now it's back to other systems, and I don't intend to buy a PS4 or build a new PC. I'm too busy with other shit now. So it's sad to see it go, but I'll live. I still have plenty of MH to go back to if I get the urge again. People should quit crying. Hell, there's a good chance the Switch will get a different MH anyway at some point too.

>>388950156
>Only DQ has reached over 1 mil in Japan

Wait, are you implying Dragon Quest is the only game to ever sell 1 million copies in Japan?

>The game was number one in the Japanese sales chart of 5 December 2010, replacing Gran Turismo 5.[8] Within two weeks of release by December 20, Monster Hunter Portable 3rd sold 2.58 million units in Japan.[9] According to the game's publisher, Monster Hunter Portable 3rd is "now the fastest selling PSP title ever in Japan" and "the fastest selling game in Capcom's history." [10] By June 2011, the game's sales in Japan had reached 4.8 million units; making it the best-selling PSP game of all time

>>388950039
>MH routinely sells 3 million in Japan alone
Except it doesn't "routinely" do that.

>>388950156
>they expected 2 mill in japan

See >>388949593

>>388950215
MH5th portable is high also it's on mt frameworks it should work on a pc with an i3 and gtx 650 on low with 60 fps.

>>388950152
Why are you still arguing with him? He's just gonna say the same shit as always.

>>388950330
On the ps4 yes.

>>388950215
You realise that the problem here is less that it's not coming to Switch and more that this is moving the series in a terrible direction right?
Assuming World is successful that just ensures that later versions will use it as a base regardless of what platform it's on.

>>388950215
But most people aren't even upset that it's not on the Switch. Most people just don't like the changes.

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>>388949172
>Is there a worse fanbase than 3DS fans?
Switch owners. Whenever news about a multiplatform game shows up, Switch owners flock to relevant threads parroting that all of these publishers must "hate money" by not downgrading their games for the Switch. Monster Hunter, DBZ, Dragon Quest, Senran fucking Kagura, Persona and even a few XCOM threads have been shat up by Switch owners over the last two months alone (MH since E3).

The reason I look forward to Splatfests now is because they keep Switch owners pacified for a day.

>>388950468
Not him but it's being done by the main director who is the son or nephew of CEO of capcom so it will be mainstay either way maybe some small changes in portable version but still we will see in 2018

>>388950215
Im in a similar boat. While I really want to play World I don't think I can afford to buy a PS4 + expensive subscription or a brand new desktop PC for that matter. It's sad but I'll probably have to skip it. Hope Switch gets something better than XX somewhere down the line.

>>388950421
For the most part I'm bored and everything needs to charge, after that it's to try and bring up some real discussion about what's in the game rather than the constant shitposting as usual.
But I suppose you're right. This is neo-/v/, it's more about the company wars rather than the games nowadays.

>>388950076
>Taking "optional" literally
Yup, it's retarded. I bet you're one of those people who say armor or weapon upgrading are also optional.

>>388950076
Are you an idiot? Lets simplify this for you with a single question.
Can you turn it on and off?

>>388950591
Believe me, I'd love actualy discussion, too, but that is just not happening. It's all console wars now. Or rather it's just one side console warring another side that doesn't exist.

>>388950468
What's wrong with that. It looks like they are actually updating the game vs making endless tiny incremental rehashes.

>>388949593
that was tri on fucking Wii in 13M in Japan

again, the point of world is to "widen the audience", for what? to sell 1/3 of the 4.5M the did on 3DS??

for what is likely more expensive development, licenses and Royalties??

Capcom cant bankrupt faster

>>388950552
oh my god shitposter are shitposting on 4chan shitposting central and they are samefagging and falseflagging in and endless circlejerk let's blame everyone that has a switch as the collectivism is the best solution to everything.

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Anti-Nintendo fans are so much fucking worse than actual Nintendo fans, this thread proves as much.

>>388950552
>le switch owner boogeyman
Ironic you say this in a thread getting shit up by anti nintendo posters.

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>>388950827

>>388950827
Capcom is kinda stupid you shouldn't be surprised when it is a float because of remasters if they couldn't sell there shit several times over they would be bought by nintendo or sony or maybe bandai namco.

>>388950468
KEK

>I want the same game rehashed to me over and over with 1 or 2 new monsters

this is the worst mentality, monster hunter is a series that works far better off handhelds and the further away from that shitty rocket dragon the better

>>388947742
>Capcom always has unreasonable projections for their Nintendo games.
>Pull this with Sony.
Everyone hates Nintendo.

What's worse is they're doing a BotW promo with XX.

>>388950986
You mean Tencent.

>>388950984
portable to portable versus portable to console
-local to local versus local to paid online no other options

>>388951015
>monster hunter is a series that works far better off handhelds
Which is why it's always performed better on handhelds right?

>>388951067
Don't ever say that name again i hate china in all it's being.

>>388951089
Sony to Nintendo versus Nintendo to Sony.

Just wait for the actual sales for more ammo for you console war. Like this thread, which unfortunately is not favoring you.

>>388951015
You realize that MHW is still just MonHun but with some casualization in it, right? It's still pretty much a rehash.

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>Can't have good Monster Hunter threads anymore because of console war shitposters
You all are fucking children.

>>388950889
Agreed, you can't criticize anything without being called a Nintendofag.

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>>388951164
Capcom is indebted to Tencent.

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>>388950838
It's not all shitposting, anon. Fanboys are dead fucking serious.

>>388951281
>every MonHun thread will be like this from now on
Fantastic.

>>388950796
>It looks like they are actually updating the game vs making endless tiny incremental rehashes.
World is a "tiny incremental rehash" anon.
Aside from having a field without loading zones it's nearly the exact same game as X/XX.

>Dragon Quest XI sells better on the 3DS than PS4
>Monster Hunter has always been a niche title stateside, poor sales of XX could possibly be brand fatigue, since Capcom gave it the cawadoody treatment of yearly installments
>The dumpster fire that is MvCi
>Capcom expects both of these titles to sell 10 million copies altogether

>>388951245
It's kinda worse than a simple rehash, since it's guaranteed to have less content (a much smaller monster roster) than its predecessors.

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>>388951281
Thank Iwata and Ryozo

>>388951245
Keep telling yourself that drone

>>388940235
They'll use whatever assets they developed for World in a half dozen other games spread across 2 gens anyway.

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>>388942903
>>388938165
It's 2017, the standards for what's portable have changed. iPads are portable and the Switch is smaller than iPads.

And I'd argue the Switch has a far bigger appeal than the 3DS solely due appealing to the demographics that keep begging for and groaning about handheld games but refuse to play on anything less than their big screen.

>>388951480
Yeah that too. I really hope the other new monster don't look as bad as the ones they've shown already.

>>388944568
Nice. Didn't expect to see Proxy in a MH shitposting thread

>>388951235
I will play on PC and people that follow just MH don't care on what platform it is they care about benefits versus cost.
Benefit PSP-3DS:
Keeps the same graphics same game design and same local Co-op
Cost PSP-3DS:
I don't like the 3ds i will wait on the new sony handheld-> it doesn't get it either a) will buy 3ds or b) will not buy 3ds simple
Benefit 3ds-ps4:
Better graphics ,streamlined annoying stuff new monsters
Cost 3ds-ps4:
Lost portability ,online costs money,my schedule hampers my gaming time on console compared to portable.

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>>388940923
>Nobody cares about
>Selling at an unprecidented rate

You're a retard

Console fanboying aside, it's less of Nintenbros being upset about no World but more of why not localize XX?


What's there to lose, it ain't like XX or Generations is on PS4 and so it won't affect sales for MHW

>>388951340
I still hate they get MHO though i hear it sucks

>>388951563
that does not somehow means World is not a flop and good luck explaining that to investors
>yes, yes we know we blew a ton of money in World and it had lukewarm reception, but looks on the bright side, all that money will be re-used in Mon Hun Wide World in 2018!!! this plan can not fail!!!

>>388944568
>All my friends that are Monster Hunter fans are super happy its going multiplat and receiving a much needed overhaul
Funny all of my friends that are Monster Hunter fans aren't feeling the hype behind World and feel that it's lost the "spark" the previous games have.
It's also worth noting that all of us have a platform we can play World on.

>>388951092
The handheld versions suck ass tho. The only reason it sold was because Japs love playing games on their 15 minute commute to work. But that audience is shrinking with every new release. Ultimately as a result the series has stagnated and now its time to take advantage of current hardware.

>>388951361
I never said that there aren't people outside that are fanatics did i? I meant 4chan mainly some people need (you)s

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>2. Flaming/flagrant "fanboyism"/etc. will not be tolerated.
>3. Threads should not devolve into flamewars. Instigating or encouraging such activity will not be tolerated.
Do your fucking jobs mods and just delete this thread already. There's absolutely zero discussion going on in this absolutely godawful excuse of a thread.

>>388951281
It's not our fault that gen 3 was the best and old farts refuse to admit it.

>>388951281
No game to actually talk about = more shitposting. It'll be better when the game launches.

>>388951680
Get a GPD Win.

>>388951476
Not just them but every remaster and rehash until march of 2018

>>388951843
>Japs only play their video games on handhelds!
>That's why MHW will be a fantastic success on a console!

what did he mean by this?

>>388951843
>But that audience is shrinking with every new release.
It was the same until XX tho.

>>388951751
And I still hate that Nintendo got MH exclusive for 6 years straight while Sony was abandoned out of nowhere.

>>388951843
>But that audience is shrinking with every new release.
It's been at a steady 4mil+ worldwide for a while now. The only one that went above was I think FU which had several rereleases in Japan if I remember right.
>and now its time to take advantage of current hardware.
And you think that putting it on systems that can't make use of the local play feature that made Monster Hunter famous is the way to do it.

>>388952059
They did abandon the Vita why should capcom save it and ps3 sank while wii rose again Sony's fault.

>>388951920
>expecting mods to do anything
There are multiple MHW threads every day and every single one of them is just console warring yet they never get deleted.

>>388951963
Ya cause their chasing a bigger audience instead of a bunch of virgins working 12 hour shifts at the ramen shop

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>>388937523
>Buying a console for one game
Ain't happening, release it on 3ds and I'll get it, but until then I'm just waiting for world on my PC.