What was the best zone? I'd say Press Garden.

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you are correct

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>>388930119
And you'd be correct.
>dat act 2
Oh my lord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHQoAWd9oQw

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>>388930983
>they didn't use this

Denuvo Zone

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Best original zone was Titanic Monarch. Best redone zone was Lava Reef.

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>just now noticed you can mash the jump button during the spindash charge to make it faster

Studiopolis was best tbqh senpai.
Best remade level was either Chemical Plant or Lava Reef.
Worst remade level was Stardust Speedway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPXU21fNEMM

>Listening to this while the screen is barely visible in that one zone in that one place going supah fast

Peak gaming 10/10

>>388931550

>just
>just?
>just?????

that has been around for 20 years homie

>>388931714
I am not a clever person

>>388931550
Welcome to over 20 years ago. Here's a new advanced technique they added: on steep hills when you roll if you continue holding down and press the jump button you still stick to the ground but gain some extra speed.

>>388931550
Are you fucking retarded? That's been a thing since the spindash was added.

>>388931395
It must've just slipped their minds to actually put it in the game as they were probably rushing.

>>388930119
Mirage Saloon was fun as fuck but WAY too short. May have been the best if they'd extended it.

Studiopolis was probably the best in the game that was released though.

>>388931550
oh man, you're going to lose your mind once you learn about the super peel out, instashield, and drop dash

>>388931840
Act 2 of Studiopolis is pure joy.

Why use drop dash over spin dash? New to Sonic games.

>>388932034
You need to stop moving to use the spin dash, you don't with the drop dash.

>>388932034
You have stop for the spindash.

>>388930119
Act 1 was meh but Act 2 was fuckken beautiful man

>>388932034
Both have their uses
Drop Dash allows you to quickly get momentum again, useful during slow platforming sections where don't have a lot of space to get speed
Spindash needs to be charged and is stationary but gives you a lot more speed

>>388932034
keeps momentum

>>388932209
Drop Dash was great for the Metal Sonic tower climb.

>>388932172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn9cXeaKLuw

Remember when you could get the sonic eggs in this game? Was peak

>>388930119
Press Garden was pretty fucking good. Wish there were more original levels, they obviously knew what they were doing in terms of level design and level gimmicks.

What was the worst level?

>>388932437
Oil Ocean but I've always never really liked that zone. Act 2's gimmick is kind of cool but it just makes the stage look like shit.

>>388932418
Bit sad that Heavy RIder and Heavy King didn't get their own zones. They probably were going to in an early plan for the game.

>>388932437
Honestly? I think Oil Ocean. Feels like a road block you gotta climb over.

>>388932437
hydrocity because they clearly didn't really bother with it

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Guys I cant decide:
Sonic Mania, Vanquish, Bayo or Wild Guns Reloaded? They're all 20 bucks.

>>388932530

Mania, duh. It's hands down the best sonic game ever, just wait for bayo to go on sale

>>388932530
bayo

>>388932530
It all comes down to what kind of game you want.
Character action? TPS? Momentum platformer?

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>>388932530
I want Nights Into Dreams for Sega Saturn

>>388932437
for meit was titanic monarch, due to how many times I was unfairly crushed into instant death.

do keep in mind though that if I were to rate the levels, titanic monarch would be an 8/10 while the rest would range from 9/10 to 10/10.

>>388932530
Mania.

What kind of mad glitches are people doing to get Titan Monarch Act 2 done in like a minute?

>>388932850
>>388932850
http://metroconventions.com/

I went last year and the years before that, I snuck in and didn't pay but got caught and had to pay :/

>>388932530
bayo

>Best Original Zone
Press Garden
>Best Original Music
Mirage Saloon Act 1
>Best Remastered Zone
Stardust Speedway
>Best Remastered Music
Metallic Madness Act 2

>>388931505
>Not "Ext-Roar-Dino-Ary"

>>388932437
Mirage Saloon Act 1 as Sonic or Tails. I appreciate the Sky Chase throwback and the attempt to vary the gameplay, but when I'm replaying the game to find faster ways through levels, that level makes the experience grind to a halt. There's only one speed, no alternate paths, and the boss is awful.

>>388930119
I liked pretty much everything, except for Oil Ocean.

>>388930119
Metallic Madness for me. The music is god tier and I love all it's gimmicks.

>>388932850
Apparently it counts as a goal to go through the secret exit on the bottom-left path with the lighting shield in it. It's a bug.

>>388932034
Spin Dash is to gain speed from a near / complete stop, Drop Dash is to keep your momentum going.

>>388932612
I just want something to keep me entertained. I played Vanquish on ps3 years ago and Bayo twice on the PS3 and Wii U.

>>388933296
So I guess get Mania? You'll get tons of hours out of it if you like replaying it.

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Kamiko is really good too. Especially for 5 dollars. I would get Pyuo pyuo tetris to complete my collection but I'm on the fence.

press garden was my favorite new zone
oil ocean is my favorite remade zone, that boss fight is fantastic

>>388933296
Why would you purchase Bayonetta again when you already have the version with the most content?

>>388930119
Metallic Madness
>>388932437
Stardust Speedway

>>388930119
Crack when?

>>388932437
Hydrocity or Green Hill

>>388933394
Press Garden Act 2 is legitimately beautiful.

>>388932850
I think you only need to do one warp for time attack.

>>388930119
I didn't like press garden all that much. The midboss was terrible and I thought it didn't portray its theme too well. It didn't look like a place where newspapers were produced or books or whatsoever.

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I wanna fly high

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>>388933859
Hypothetically speaking, can I still download pyuo pyuo tetris to my Switch if I buy the physical copy? Or is it a trade-off?

>>388933195
>God-tier
That's dummy, because Act 1 is the only track that I actually kinda hate. The rap is met and the singing is just... off. It's always weird to hear a voice/lyric put to something that wasn't designed for it. Outside of ytpmvs it's just kinda cringy to me.

>>388934029
You can, if you buy it again.

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>>388934087

>>388934032
>dummy
*Funny
>met
*meh

>>388934130
I think I'm gunna save my money for new Mario....

>>388932437
Hydrocity, easily the worst of the bunch.

>>388934237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8iWKIUouPo&list=PL8FE74949CBBC8CBD

I used to have Mean Bean Machine for Sega Genesis though. It's a great addition to any collection.

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>>388934349
I liked the music and "fun gameplay" when I was kid, this meant, putting it in my console and losing, looking at the neato faces on the beans, and losing to ebil doctor robotnick.

>>388934621
I wonder if Mario Odyssey is gonna be 49.99 or 69.99, I only have 40 bucks.

>>388934853
Save up, man, you still have over 2 months.

>>388932530
Bayo, Vanquish and Mania.

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>tfw playing through Mania over and over again and getting slightly better at Puyo Puyo everytime I have to play the CPZ2 boss
I even got a triple chain somehow and I suck at these games.

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I'll just leave this here.

>>388932437
Mirage Saloon act 1 as Sonic/Tails is the absolute worst.

>>388935784
He's a big mech

>>388935784
If only it ended up an actual boss or something instead of being basically a gigantic death-laden fun house.

>>388932530
Wild Guns is an arcade game with very little content. It's a great game but not worth 20 bucks.

>>388932437
Metallic Madness had no right existing

Why is Stardust Speedway Act 2 so short? It's jarring as fuck.

>>388930119
God Tier:
Studiopolis
Press Garden
Titanic Monarch
Flying Battery

Great Tier:
Mirage Saloon
Stardust Speedway
Metallic Madness
Oil Ocean

Decent Tier:
Chemical Plant
Green Hill

Meh Tier:
Lava Reef
Hydrocity

BAD Tier:
Egg Reverie

>>388936595
Because most of it is taken up by the Metal Sonic boss fight/tower climb.

>>388932437
>Sonic and Tails
Mirage Saloon though I'm looking forward to playing it as Knuckles

>Old Levels
Lava Reef. Just boring and slow. Metallic Madness is also a very close second as it was unnecessary.

>>388936668
>BAD Tier:Egg Reverie
the fact that you can't skip the cutscene after dying is like rubbing salt into the wound. even when you figure out the pattern that boss is a trainwreck.

>>388936668
Doomsday > Egg Reverie
Egg Reverie felt like a girly wet noodle fight compared to it. Plus the true ending is trash.

>>388937261
THIS. that alone brought that game down to the 8/10 range.

>>388936668
God Tier:
Studiopolis

Great Tier:
Chemical Plant
Mirage Saloon (non-Flying)

Decent Tier:
Green Hill
Press Garden
Flying Battery
Hydrocity
Stardust Speedway

Meh Tier:
Lava Reef
Oil Ocean
Metallic Madness
Titanic Monarch

BAD Tier:
Egg Reverie
Mirage Saloon (Act 1 as Sonic/Tails)

>>388932530
all of them
what are you, a faggot?

>>388932530
Everyone should play Bayonetta at some point.
Mania > Vanquish > WGR

>>388937402
Mirage Saloon Act 1 with Knuckles really makes me wish for more Knuckles only acts in later games. Maybe even some Tails only acts as well.

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>>388930119
Mirage Saloon easily

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzjytttk7bM

>>388930119
MEtallic Madness.

>>388930119
Titanic Monarch.

>>388937713
I knew this mashup would work perfectly.

>>388933333

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>>388937713
I haven't done a Knuckles playthrough in Mania yet and I want to have this track as a mod over the regular Mirage Saloon just so that I can be surprised after forgetting I installed it by the time I play as him and get to that zone.

I've heard people datamining found unused transitions for each level, this shit true? I couldn't manage to find much anywhere, my google might be broken.

>>388937910
There are dozens of attempts but that one is literally the only good mashup

>>388938043
The only thing I know of is an alternate animation for Tails at the start of CPZ.

>>388938043
Dunno about transitions, but people found unused super emerald sprites with text saying that Sonic was gonna go hyper at some point in dev.
Also an unused Tails animation when the purple goo drops on him at the start of Chemical Plant.

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>>388937713

That mashup is bangin', yo.

>>388932034
drop dash lets you keep you general speed up
spindash is for when you're basically at a standstill but need to go fast (in particular, if you need to go faster than a drop dash will do)

>>388932437
honestly tempted to say hydrocity
act 1 slows the pace down way too much
act 2 is the S3 layout with a few tweaks and extensions
neither act really looks majorly different visually despite the general clean up job all the zones got
cool boss though

>>388938282
Knuckles got a bunch of love in Mania, but Tails kind of got shafted in comparison.
That self-drying animation is brill, shame it's not actually used.

>>388938645
Tails by himself has always been like a third/forth playthrough kind of guy.

>>388932437
Hydrocity, and only because they barely changed shit on it
The bosses were pretty cool tho

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>Only five of the twelve zones actually got a transition

>>388936668
God Tier:
Press Garden
Titanic Monarch
Metallic Madness
Lava Reef (both routes)

Great Tier:
Stardust Speedway
Chemical Plant
Mirage Saloon (Knuckles route)
Studiopolis

Meh Tier
Flying Battery
Green Hill
Mirage Saloon (Sonic/Tails Route)

Shit Tier
Hydrocity
Oil Ocean

>>388938846
The reverse Eggmobile fight was the best part of Hydrocity honestly.

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>>388937713
Damn

>>388938997
I'd say Lava Reef was the best remixed zone out of all of them. It transcends the original layouts, art and music.

>>388939292
That's true. I didn't expect Lava Reef to return at all and then it felt like a magical experience oing through it. Especially when you got to Act 2.

The Lava Reef part of Dunkey's Mania review basically summed up my thoughts on it perfectly.

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>>388930119
My nigga that music for press garden was so good.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq02IVLh5CA
Best track.

>>388939402
The volcano ranges and night sky in Act 1 literally left me in awe first time I saw it. Same with the Quartz Quadrant-esque background for Act 2 and it's sexy guitar.

Refund Zone

>>388939292
Yeah Lava Reef is still probably my favourite zone in the series and even more so in Mania. They only thing I think they messed up on was with Heavy Knight being the boss on the Sonic & Tails route but thankfully they delivered hard with Heavy King being the Knuckles route boss.

Press act 2 was fucking great. An ice level where getting frozen is your friend and slippery controls are nowhere? Sign me up
Act 1 was also pretty cool with the conveyors, and heavy shinobi is a cool fucking bossfight.

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>>388937713
Damn dude thanks for sharing

>>388938981
why did this happen? is the game unfinished, or did they just not want to use the repetitive gem transition too many times?

>>388939821
Smelt like compromise to be honest. I bet at some point in time Heavy Rider and Heavy King were gonna get their own zones until they were canned and made bosses for Lava Reef instead cause of most likely time constraints.

>>388939910
Cool like ice?

>>388940025
It's pretty obvious that Mania had a rushed development, though it still ended up fantastic anyway.

>>388932437
Tie between stardust speedway and hydrocity.

True winner is Mirage Saloon Act 1 for Sonic

>>388932437
Hydrocity, was playing through the game again just for fun and stopped when I got to this level.

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Why does Tee Lopes like trumpets so much?
Like 90% of the songs have them.

>>388940442
Who doesn't like trumpets.

>>388930119
PRESS GARDEN ACT 2
FLYING BATTERY ACT 2
LAVA REEF ACT 2
STARDUST SPEEDWAY ACT 1

Are all top tier sonic locations and music

>>388935784
What if that was suppose to be the actual final final boss instead of that shit we got that looks like something made from GameMaker in 5 minutes.

Stardust Speedway Act 1 is probably my favorite.

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Titanic Monarch beat out 3&K Death Egg as my favorite final zone. It's perfection.

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I hate spiders

>>388930119
I loved the denuvo zone

>>388939564
Titanic Monarch is straight up the best final zone in the series. It has the the best use of vertical level design in any Sonic level in my opinion.

>>388940043
Yeah I agree which is a bit of a shame. In debug mode you can even get to the room where you fight Knuckles in 3&K and if you get to the room with the teleporter that leads to Sky Sanctuary the camera will even pan upwards a bit like it does when you enter that room in 3&K.

>>388940829
That boss sure can be fiddly at points. I usually just go Super when I fight it now.

studiopolis and Mirage saloon were highlights, but mirage saloon is way too short

>>388940837
It amazing just how much shit was probably planned for Mania but was never put in. Pages and pages worth probably.

>>388941040
Knuckles' Mirage Saloon is the real Mirage Saloon in my eyes.

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>>388940829
>Smack him into the spikes but his pod didn't hit them so it doesn't count
I can do it pretty much every time now but god damn the first time he almost ruined the entire Zone for me.

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>>388940829

>>388941371
I love Eggette. I actually hope she appears in Mania 2 in some way.

>>388930119
The best zone is the one where you refund it due to SEGA being a bunch of lying cunts.

>>388932437
I came around to being okay with Monarch, but boy did it harsh my mellow after the fantastic Metallic Madness the first time.

>>388941116
All the more reason for there to be a mania 2. There's no way it won't be made, hell I bet the sales expectations were lower than they should because sega jp doesn't know what the fuck people want

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Lava reef
my favourite zone in S3&K as well
the boss didn't fit the atmosphere though

>>388932437
Lava Reef zone.
It's just kinda boring compared to every other level.
Was disappointed to see that Act 1 of Mirage Saloon for Sonic was a sky level.
Not sure what the hate for Stardust Speedway because it's one of my favorites.

>>388941464
Subtle.

>>388940695
TROO FAR
i bet it was that fucks idea to make that the final boss so it will tie to his forces game

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>>388935541
You know what to do now, anon

>>388941371
I'll never be able to unsee this now.

>>388941371
>not omlette

>>388941496
>Mania 2
>Sega fires Christian Whitehead since they think they can do 2d gameplay now
>Don't bring back Tee Lopes so they can do the music themselves
>Level design is bottomless pit city, special stages are Sonic 2 half pipes for the 10000th time, music sounds like Sonic 4 and now Sonic has a homing attack that works about as well as the Adventure one

>>388941829
puyo on steam without denuvo when

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I gotta say I really love the expressiveness of Robotnik throughout this game and the way he permeates everywhere with the Eggman branding.

>>388941829
>Get this
>Only play Tetris since I'm absolute trash at Puyo Puyo
Guess I should attempt to learn

>>388941781
It ties into Forces from the start. Literally everything that happens is because of the Phantom Ruby getting agitated.

>>388941829
No! I don't wanna fall down the slippery slope!

>>388941945
That's one hell of a bad end scenario right there, anon.

>>388941371
Can't wait for this to fall in popularity like a lead weight in the next week 8100 brander

>>388942074
This ties into Forces? I don't know shit about Forces does the Phantom Ruby play a part there too?

>>388942119
Aaron retweeted Eggette, so the Sonic PR guy knows about her and probably shared it with the dev team.

>>388930119
Metallic Madness Act 1. Shifting to the background of a stage is true kino and it could've been handled poorly but it's pulled off so well and now I wish every stage had a background transition.
Best new stage had to be studiopolis though.

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>>388941371

>>388936668
God tier:
Press garden
Studiopolis
Titanic monarch
Chemical plant

Great tier:
Mirage saloon (Knuckles)
Metallic madness
Flying battery
Stardust speedway

Good tier:
Lava reef
Green hill
Hydrocity

OK tier:
Mirage saloon (Sonic/Tails)
Oil ocean
Egg reverie

>>388942008
I love the way Eggman acts in this game, from the branding he puts on everything to the way he uses the train whistle in Mirage Saloon when you pass by, it just fits his character so well.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WtwJPEJCA0

>When the Good Future theme starts playing

>>388942210
The Phantom Ruby is Infinite in jewel form. It creates a void that transports Sonic and the jewel itself to Forces' timeline. It's the reason the HBH came to be.

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>>388942210
This guy seems to be using it, or he's at least related to it somehow.

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Finished my third playthrough using Tails in Mania, I have completed the game with both him Knuckles and Sonic & Tails. I love this game so much and no kind of DRM malware will change that.

>>388942310
I'm sure they had a laugh, had a drink, and moved on

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>>388942428
>The act transition where you destroy the roboticizer and use the signpost to travel to the future.
I had the biggest smile on my face when it happened.

>>388942501
>>388942541
I see. Weird looking character I thought Sonic was past that.

>>388942365
I honestly loved oil ocean. It was way better than it was in sonic 2. But still great list.

>>388942428
The melody was so joyful it gave me spine tingles

>>388942547
Same. I bet the game with all emeralds on PC as Sonic & Tails, Sonic alone, Tails alone and Knuckles. Then I did a Knuckles & Knuckles run with all emeralds for the real true ending. I've basically done all I can with the game, but I still have a little drive to maybe play through the whole game again cause it's so fun.

>>388931840
Mirage Saloon is better as Knuckles, cause you get a proper Act 1 with him.

Where is the crack?

>>388942769
It's better then Sonic 2's Oil Ocean, but it's still IMO one of Mania's weaker zones.

>>388942769
It's way better than in Sonic 2 but it's still not that great, it made good use of sandopolis's gimmick though.

>>388930119
I just experienced my first bug.
Finished the game in Knux & Knux mode with all emeroodz and after titanic boss the game hangs itself.

>>388942949
I haven't finished the game yet. But so far titanic monarch is my least favourite. I liked having to hit the switches to stop the gas. It forced you to slow down like you would in sonic 1 which I enjoy.

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>>388942713
They were for a while, I guess they decided it was time to bring the edge back.

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>>388942835
Same. Though it's a shame some things remain weird, like the zone transitions being half way done or unused sprites. The biggest bummer for me is Tails losing his flicky army of death if we talk about gameplay. Also no online play, which sucks because I like Sonic 2's mobile online.

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>>388943036
Did Super Knuckles also look like this to you? Wonder if it's the trigger of the bug for some reason.

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>>388942119
I wouldn't be so sure

>>388943036
Were you super when you went through the portal? That seems to be the kicker from what I've seen. Basically if your character's sprite is a red color when you go through the portal, just restart the zone because it'll hard lock when you go to Egg Reverie.

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>>388943209
The same happens with Tails.

>>388931550
Being THIS new to Sonic

>>388943209
>>388943281
Someone should tweet this "red sprite into hard lock going into Egg Reverie" glitch to Taxman so he knows about it.

>>388943370
It doesn't matter if you're using a savefile though, seems like it's only because the & Knuckles mode

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>>388943245

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>>388942660
>gamegear damage sound effect when you hit Nack
This game is weapons-grade fanservice.

>>388943445
Must be a shit to deal with if you're playing fullscreen. I remember trying to alt+tab out of it and it did not play nice at all. Would love if Mania had borderless fullscreen.

>>388930119
>I'd say Press Garden.

I'd say Sakura Synagogue

>>388943209
>>388943268
Yes.

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How were people getting walled by this? It's literally only requires you to constantly jump and duck when the laser is out.

>>388942501
>The Phantom Ruby is Infinite in jewel form
Infinite might just be someone who found the ruby.

>>388941371
Thank fucking god I'm not the only one

>>388943515
this 'character' is literally just eggman upside-down

people are only drawing it because it's a girl, captain vidya never caught on

>>388943542
Such a strange bug I'm surprised they didn't catch.

>>388943554
Never underestimate how bad some people can be at Sonic. Like honestly.
Also doesn't help their case when just having a fire shield makes the boss too easy.

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>>388943623
captain vidya was never this cute

you can find a torrent for it on /t/ btw

>>388943554
The only bosses in the game to give me any deaths were the spider (2 deaths), Lava Reef Act 1 boss (1 death), Heavy Rider (1 death), and the final boss (2 deaths). Never game overed. I guess we just can't understand the masses.

>>388943623
Never underestimate cute girls, anon.

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>>388943679

>>388943731
The only boss I ever died on was Heavy Shinobi actually. Got a bit too hectic for me.

>>388943720
Which reminds me is there a HQ rip of the soundtrack yet?

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>>388943768

>>388943830
That was my favorite Heavy, just for the Shinobi SFX.

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>>388943845

>>388930119
Yes it's press garden.
Solid zone and act 2 has 10/10 aesthetics.

>>388943887
My favorite Heavy thematically was Heavy Magician. My everything for her to get a circus/magic show themed zone in Mania 2 or something if she and the rest of the HBH come back.

>>388932437
Old: Hydrocity. Took the one thing that made the original the best water level and turned it into a shitty water level. By Act 2 it honestly feels like they ran out of ideas.

New: Titanic Monarch. Too long with boring mechanics. Doesn't look as visually interesting as Death Egg

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>>388943830
>>388943887
It's perfect
>no edit of this with heavy shinobi

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In case you guys don't wanna go through /t/ for it.
https://mega.nz/#!UHpDlQwD!GywAMeLnSxd-2XMcdpicpnbFMfmW5k9NL1UVZ_mxlU0

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>>388943926

>>388943596
>Some random guy stumbles across the ruby and suddenly decides to become an edgelord who calls himself Infinite
I doubt it.

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>Collect all 7 Chaos Emeralds halfway through my Knuckles playthrough
>Can no longer use my glide ability without turning into Super Knuckles
>Can't collect extra lives using rings or enjoy the fucking game and it's challenges because there's no way to stop using Super Knuckles

I was so fucking hyped to play through the game as my favorite character but no, because they didn't give you such a simple option the game is ruined. Why even give the option of collecting the Emeralds if it renders the game unplayable? Hopefully we get a patch to fix this shit.

>>388944190
>Infinite is actually the Heavy King after having fucked with the Master Emerald, Modern Sonic's Emeralds and the Ruby

>>388944118
I think my favorite thing about her is her constant >:T face

>>388944051
Nice try

>>388944276
You are. The PC version already has a separate super button and the consoles are getting it as well soon.

>>388944276
game is definitely not easy to play. But it's great to have. I've made it all the way to Lava Reef Zone, with many game overs.

>>388944051
>Chad meme that missed the point of chad meme
Apply yourself

>>388933058
>Best Original Music
>Mirage Saloon Act 1 (Knuckles)

Fixd

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>>388944526
what's it like not being able to have fun in your life and post whatever picture you feel like posting anon?

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>>388944618
i was studying dnb while i played

u obilously don't understand the subtle varation between late 90s dnb and early 2000s 2-step aka texas 2-step

>>388944689
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>388944763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ejJhr8UjMU

OCB

>>388944689
my palms got sweaty

>>388944689
>Studiopolis.webm

>>388944190
Well we know the ruby can influence and change people, look what it did to the HBH. They went from perfectly normal eggrobos to trying to overthrow Robotnik.

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>>388930119
Best new zone was probably Studiopolis
Best remixed zone was for sure Chemical Plant especially the boss which completely caught me off guard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x25ZmpGCa0I

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>>388944705
....?

>>388945049
You can tell Studiopolis was the first zone ever made for the game. All those references and level polish.

Best new Zone is Press Garden by far imo, the music, the visuals, the gimmicks holy fuck it might just be the single best Zone in ALL Sonic games.

Remixed I'm having a hard time choosing between Chemical Plant and Flying Battery both are amazing.

>>388945294
True, also it's featured in the trailer

>>388945437
Looks like either Titanic Monarch or Press Garden were the final original levels to be made. Most likely Titanic Monarch because Press Garden had that one picture of it floating around pretty early.

>>388945294
They said themselves Studiopolis was the first zone they made for the pitch to SEGA to approve the game.

>>388945297
Act 2 was very pretty. Both acts flowed really nicely.

>>388943554
it's a bit finicky with the platforms.

if you are standing on the platforms when they get taken down, it's instant kill.

if you are standing in the oil when they come back up, it' also an instant kill

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>>388941981
desu I just want a new localized puyo game. Puyo 15th/20th anniversary and Puyo 7 looks so much fun, but moonrunes ruins it for me

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I pray that this sells well so maybe someday we'll get a fully original 2D sonic game from these guys.

>>388945924
Mania's already sold very well and a majority of reviewers have rated it highly. It's pretty likely a sequel will happen.

>>388945924
according to steam spy, it's sold about 85k so far.

>>388945924
It would be funny if its profits ended up rivalling/surpassing Forces. Modern Sonic fags seem to be all over that game though.

>>388946284
The OC creator will be the driving force behind that game, I guarantee it.

>>388946090
is that good?

>>388946435
considering it's only been 2 days, i think so

>>388946530
hell, it would've been a lot higher without the DRM controversy

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>>388930119
Cracked Denuvo Zone.

>>388946613
Funny to think that the game would have sold better WITHOUT piracy "protection". God Sega are retarded.

>>388946385
Someone dumped all the current clothing options for the OC and some of it doesn't look too bad. There's a shoe style I really like.
Plus you can be Joker from Persona 5 if you want.

>>388946284
I'd love to see the current combined total of sales from the Switch/PS4/Xbone releases. I bet it's made at least 800/900k sales.

>>388946435
PC ports usually sell worse than their console counterparts. 85k in 2 days is fantastic. the console sales must be at least triple that by now.

>>388932437

Unfortunately Hydrocity. I did not enjoy act 1's new gimmicks.

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>person that suggested denuvo probably got shitcanned yesterday

>>388947270
Well it was a pretty stupid decision for a game that was going to be moddable.

>>388947270
If they've decided it was a bad decision surely they would've removed it now and apologised.

>>388947270
>>388947406
Holy fucking wishful thinking guys.
Get real.
It's far, far more likely that they'll keep blaming the team and even deny them the possibility of making a Mania 2.

>>388947463
nah they'll never admit it was a fuck but if they do remove it they'll word it like they are doing the fans a favour

>>388947463
Watch them wait until it gets cracked and then do that.

>>388941371
knew about this and for the life of me I just couldnt see it in game

>>388944276
It kinda makes me wonder how they did not add separate-button Super forms. They were a thing for a few years in Sonic 3 Complete, and before that in Megamix. It doesn't even have to be separate button, just using /other/ jump button is enough, since you are guranteed to use it only when charging spindashes.

>>388947934
I could see it, but the Robotnik head doesn't have a mouth which was just put in themselves.

>>388948062
PC version has a separate super button and consoles are getting it soon. Did you not see the other reply to that post?

>>388945859
this killed me a few times and it made going through the zone again mildly annoying even thought the zone itself isnt so bad.

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>>388937713

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>>388941371

>>388945859

I think that only happens if you touch the top of the platform when it touches the top of the oil. Literally never got instakilled while jumpspamming.

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>>388948321
shouldnt she be fat like robotnik?

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>>388946715
Sega of Europe will forever be on my shit list for completely botching the PC release.

>>388948581
How about no, thiccfag.

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>>388943524
>Metal Sonic uses the CD jump and spindash sfx

>>388941371
>>388942349
>>388943245
>>388943515
>>388943845
>>388943926
>>388944118

I don't know what I missed during the last days but it sure must have been something. Kinda wish Maria ended up looking like this happy accident.

Is this game worth $20?

Will I feel buyer's remorse?

>>388948683
Not just that, they botched what was otherwise a perfect build up to the launch. There was absolutely no controversy or issues whatsoever, then they took a massive shit over all that at the last minute

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way to ruin an almost perfect game, this zone is so utterly painful i cant understand how it made it into the game, poor level design and boss aside, it looks horribly bad and the music stinks too, what the fuck was cuckhead thinking?

>>388948154
I saw, but it should have been in all versions right away, like, implemented along with Super forms themselves. I mean, game went through play testing and stuff - how did no one say "It's kinda ass we can't use jump abilities after collecting all emeralds"?

>>388942501

Posting your fan theories as if they were fact makes you look extremely autistic, just so you know.

Which you probably are, so it makes sense, but you should still try to tone it down.

>>388948887
It takes between 10-15 hours to unlock everything.

>>388948887
yes
no
just don't buy it on PC until they remove denuvo

>>388948887
On PC currently this game isn't worth any money due to DENUVO, wait for it to be removed.

On consoles it works just fine and honestly it's so good it's worth $70, not $20.
I wish i could give the team even more money, they made one of the best fucking games in recent years, it's GOTY material.

>>388948887
Fuck no. It's a fantastic game. Buy it now.

>>388948887
if you like old Sonic games, it's worth it. if not, of course not. if you haven't played them, emulate them and try them before you buy this

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>>388948892
I know, that's why I used release instead of version. These fucking morons delayed the PC version at the last minute by two weeks JUST to force in DRM and on top of that had the gall to imply that all of this was the dev teams fault. Fuck Sega of Europe, I hope this was not a coincidence but a direct result of the backlash of this whole debacle.

>>388948887
The game itself is phenomenal, which is why I'm THIS pissed off about SoE complete retardation.

>>388945297

Press Garden is brought down too much by act 1 to be the best of anything. And act 2 isn't really that great either gameplay wise, it's mostly carried by its aesthetics.

>>388940829
protip: if you hold the direction you want to come out of the swing, you do it perfectly every time. you don't have to time the jump.

So..Who do you guys think Infinite is?

>http://www.strawpoll.me/13838275
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13838275

>>388930119
>Stardust Speedway
>Act 1's smooth R&B while you're methodically going through marble garden gimmicks and SS's donkey kong barrels.
>Act 2's loving micheal jackson tribute while you blitz through the most aesthetic of CD aesthetics at a rapid pace.
>Act 3's angelic choir of hues and that neat Saturn 3D.

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>Get medals from the blue sphere minigame
>Unlock shit ton of abilities I don't know how to use
Guys?

>>388948581
that only applies to the Robotnik males over fifty

>>388950694
You can only use them in a NoSave game unfortunately. Hover over NoSave and the secrets option should show up.

>>388950469
It's clearly blaze.

>>388950694
You can use them in No Save runs. When you hover over it you can go to a "Secrets" menu and activate them before you play. Use the insta-shield by pressing jump again in the air to give you a second of invul and slightly increase your attack range. Use the super peel-out by holding up and pressing jump. Basically a reverse spin dash that's faster but you run instead of ball up.

>>388931624
>worst
>Stardust Speedway
how's it like to have terrible taste?

>>388930119
Oil Ocean.

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>>388932034

>Why save time using the drop dash when you can waste valuable seconds charging up a spindash

That's a good kreshtion

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>>388948887
>paying for a romhack

>>388937713
>MY DODOO BLEEDS

>>388951359
>Being a frogposter

>>388948964
Shit taste.

>>388941371

Aaron Webber already wants it

expect this new meme to be in sonic boom season 3 and nothing else

>>388935784
>Sonic 2 has a huge robo
>Sonic 3 & Knuckles has a giant robo
>Sonic Mania has a fucking titantic robo

I love what they did there

>>388947270
Other way around. He was against it too and left

>>388930119
Denuvo zone2, and refund zone act 1.
Quickest zones in the game and just flow together so well!

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>Just did the metal sonic fight

I don't remember there being this many screen scrolling fights. I feel like they are trying to apply 3D style sonic boss fights to mania

>>388951159
DESU the first Zone of Stardust was butchered ass fuck. Stardust is supposed to be a clusterfuck of loops and shit. Whitehead fucked it up by adding too much of Sonic 3's level design which, while great design, just doesn't fit Stardust Speedway's or Sonic CD's aesthetic.

>>388951939
The whole Metal Sonic fight is a homage to the Metal Sonic fight in Sonic CD.

>>388951872

>Buy game
>play for hours without a problem

Keep crying, bitch nigga.

>>388951159

Stardust is just a bunch of meme tubes, you get to that stage and you suddenly realize what people were talking about when they say Sonic CD level design is shit.

>>388952075
Yeah but that should've been the only only one.
Scrolling Boss Fights:
GHZ 2
FBZ 2
SZ 1
FBZ 2
SSZ2
HZ 2
MS 1 (Sonic)

>>388951447
>posting maymay arrows

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>bought Mania on Xbone to play it on one I borrowed from friend
>returned it to him cause I was gonna get PC release
>PC has shitty Denuvo and don't want to support that
>can't even pirate it because of SHITTY Denuvo either

>>388952428
FBZ 2 is scrolling upwards, it still feels stationary so it doesn't count. Also you listed it twice.

MS1 (Sonic) also isn't really scrolling, you can have the plane stay still, you're not constantly moving forward.

Also what is SZ1?

>>388933997
LET'S GO TOGETHER

>>388932437
Stardust Speedway easily. The aesthetic and music are 10/10 but that level design feels like it's out of a completely different game.

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Does anyone else thought the colors of Press Garden Act 1 looks better in the beta? Why did they changed it?

Is there data for a fourth character?

I remember seeing something in the last thread but was unsure if hoax.

>>388955328
It had a different theme originally. Apparently it was called "Pulp Solstice"

>>388955728
Where'd you get that from?

>>388930119
>Have to constantly go to Green Hill Zone to reach the warp wing
Goddamnit fuck why can't they just let you go to the special stages themselves after you beat normal game.

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Mirage Saloon as Knuckles

>>388956051
From the game's data. Read up, slowfag:

https://tcrf.net/Sonic_Mania

>>388955728
Pulp Solstice still implies the Printing Press, and you can see one of the typewriter platforms to the left, so I think that was probably the name before they had to make it a snow level

>>388948964
12 game overs

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>>388956137
>not using Chemical Plant act 1 for that

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>>388955728

>>388957101
flying battery was the only zone Iizuka insisted they put in the game and have the outdoor/indoor transitions

>>388941464
>he doesn't know the ultinate ruse sega plotted so that you couldn't refund Mania

>>388955328
Yes, this looks way better. Act 1 in the final game looks like a mess.

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>>388957101
it's real

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>>388957101
Got a nice chuckle out of that

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>>388956525
That page still doesn't have the unused shipping machine from Studiopolis?

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I'm goin to fucking scream
WHERE'S THE FUCKING CRACK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>388930119
>ITT: /trash/ emerge from below the earth

>>388957579
It's being updated slowly. Today they've added some things that weren't there when I checked yesterday.

>>388957579
>sonic has no "happy" expression
really joggin the noggin

>>388931550
Fucking CD fags

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>>388956525
>This one features stages old and new, with a hearty dose of unexpected Denuvo DRM for PC users.

>>388936668
True list here:

>God Tier:
>Studiopolis
>Press Garden
>Flying Battery

>Great Tier:
>Lava Reef
>Mirage Saloon
>Metallic Madness
>Oil Ocean

>Decent Tier:
>Chemical Plant
>Green Hill
>Hydrocity
>Stardust Speedway
>Titanic Monarch

>Meh Tier:
Egg Reverie

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>do a special stage backwards to see what happens
>you can actually cross paths with the ufo and get the emerald the easiest way
>mfw

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>>388932603
>best sonic game ever

No. Close, but no.

>>388957579
I still can't figure out how this thing was supposed to work.

So many shitting on egg reverie when I actually kinda liked it. It's not better than a lot of things but it felt kinda cool battling 2 guys at once and the music was anime/comic book super hero sounding as fuck.

>>388958264
Isn't the UFO also runs away from you even if you go backwards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmnBuiBAMNU

>>388958414
Possibly matched with Amy = get rings
matched with Eggman = lose rings

>>388958207
Titanic Monarch deserves a bump up to great tier. It really gets better after subsequent playthroughs.

>>388951380
>MY DODOO FLOWS STREAKING BLOOD

>>388958686
It does, but occasionally the pathing can get confused and it'll turn around back toward you.

>>388955328
Izuka forced them to shoe horn it into a snow world