This shit was fucking incredible

only bad thing about dead money was when it glitched and i couldn't progress once i tried to get God. it was still fun though. Old World Blues a best.

>>388904323
I actually felt owb was the worst of the bunch, really felt wacky for the sake of wacky

Too much combat shows that combat kind of sucks in those games. High level enemies just became bullet sponges.
The setting was really great though. It was pretty well written. Greed and obsession were a main theme. It ruined many people in the story.
And it can get you killed too if you won't let go of those damn gold bars when trying to escape at the end kek. I thought it was pretty brillant. There are still ways to get them though.

>>388905082
I was piling them into my fucking backpack as fast as i could and then it hit me like a fucking load of bricks. God damn probably the best written twist in any video game. so fucking classy

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I can't tell if you fuckers are trolling or not at this point

The first time I played through this garbage, it killed a 50 hour save.

The second time, I played very carefully and took the whole DLC seriously. It fucking sucks. The gas sucks, the beeping sucks, the holograms suck, the weapons suck, the characters suck

You fuckers need to finally admit that New Vegas has no good DLC before this lie consumes you all.

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I will always remember Zion. And not fret about the loss of "innocence" the Sorrows suffer because that was contrived bullshit anyway, the White Legs needed to be stopped and Graham's "demons" are appeased.

>>388904114
Nah, it only has a 70 on metacritic.

Gameplay
HH>OWB>LR>DM

Story
DM>HH>OWB>LR

>>388906812
>>388904114
I've only played these two so far, and I loved zion but hated dead money.

I played zion first and got to enjoy connecting all that cave father lore with the survivalist entries, learning the history of the tribes, Joshua graham, etc. Then I got to dead money with its bullet sponge ghost people, shitty stealth segments, d.o.t.s, "objective: run" segments. I lost all will to play

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>>388904114
I can see why it's not everyone's cup of tea but I liked it a lot. The voice acting was superb.

>Elijah goes on about not being able to let go of the treasure
>mfw the Holorifle was more valuable to me than all those gold bars

>>388907090
you should've invested in energy weapons. the holorifle is incredibly overpowered, and it's pretty easy to get Dog's ghost hunter perk.

>>388907090
Honest Hears is basically "explore and shoot em up", Dead Money is "survival".

Go into Dead Money unprepared and it will fuck you up hard.

>>388907090
Should have paid attention, anon. You need to use a melee weapon to smash the limbs and heads of downed Ghost People, or allow Dog to eat them.

You use the .357 if you use Guns, the Holorifle if you use Energy Weapons and the Knife Spear if you use Melee. Take out Ghost People one by one and as soon as possible so they don't swarm you and aggro more of them.

Honest Hearts is great and has based Joshua "Burned Man" Graham, but it's very easy outside stuff like Yao Guai and cave bosses. Dead Money forces you to make the most of your surroundings rather than going around guns blazing. scavenge for cigarettes to exchange for chips, new schematics, hidden stashes.

>>388906812
The whole "pacifism" subplot was retarded. It's one thing to not actively seek conflict, but the idea of "no weapons, everyone please play nice with us" is a stupid concept that will never work.

>>388906601
>He didn't play Honest hearts

>>388904114
yeah but the companions were top shit
>zombie attacking you for not sucking his dick since first interaction
>lesbian attacking you because you're not scientist and she can't tell difference between autodock and fucking elevator
>Jugo from naruto surprisingly least retarded of them all

>>388909398
Yeah, I hated Dean and the woman.

I fucking loved Dog and God though, especially God.

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>beat New Vegas several times
>eventually get tired of it
>decide I'm gonna finally beat Fallout 3 after all this years
>spend over 10 hours just exploring the wasteland
>eventually get to the part of the main quest in which you need to follow Dr. Li out of Jefferson Memorial after the Enclave invade
>after I complete the first section, she just stops moving
>she won't follow me at all, not even after I kills every hostile in that section
>look it up online, turns out it's a common bug and the only way to fix it is to load a save from before you entered the second room
>my last save was 5 hours a ago
>notice I have 6 other saves
>they're all at the exact same spot
>mfw I realize why I never finished 3
Does NV have any game breaking bugs like this?

>>388909580
Never come across one before in NV.

>>388909580
I beat NV and going back to 3 is honestly such a chore. Perks are great and make the game more fun and the main quest of 3 is honestly incredibly horrible.

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>>388909580
>Does NV have any game breaking bugs like this?
On release it was buggier than fallout 3

>>388909576
yeah god was cool except when he tried to threaten me, what does the subhuman think, that I wouldn't put him in his place or what?

>>388904927
I had this urge to play the game again and was blazing through having a blast and then I hit OWB like a brick wall and haven't touched the game in months.

>>388909695
>the main quest of 3 is honestly incredibly horrible

Yeah, Bethesda can't write themselves out of a cardboard box. FO3's wasteland was fucking great, I like it even more than the Mojave, and it had some cool sidequests, but god damn the main campaign.

>>388909695
just use TTW

>>388909802
OWB is too large that it becomes tedious to finish since the content isn't the best, it's main appeal are the mad scientists.

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played New Vegas for 10 hours in total, its nothing but walking. waste of time. glad I torrented this shitty fucking game that /v/ sucks off every day

>>388909695
This >>388909962 Tales of Two Wastelands is great. I've had no issues with it, even with my fuck loads of mods installed. The only issue is if you're traveling from Vegas to the Capital Wasteland, once you get there it can be hard for new players to navigate out of. I recommend starting in Vault 101 then traveling to NV later, if you aren't accustomed to Fallout 3's map that is. If you're a console abusing fag, it's coc Springvale and not Megaton now. The later doesn't work.

>>388909867
FO3's Wasteland is good, but I feel that New Vegas's in theory would be better if it was properly implemented ala concept art.
Part of it is that the Wasteland is really sad and empty. It's creepy and melancholic at the same time. New Vegas is basically Fallout 3, and I like it for being lighterhearted.

>>388910120
Jokes on you, black isle died before new vegas was even released, you pirated todd.

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I'm hyped for the upcoming New Vegas DLC.

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I can never commit to a character concept to see this game through.
I don't know what's wrong with me, the game sounds great but after I leave Doc Mitchell's all the energy in my body just gets sapped.

>>388910120
Spotted the retard

>>388910808
Autumn Leaves?

I didn't like it.

>>388911036
The Frontier my dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nenXX9wQRY

>>388910968

There's nothing wrong with you. It's a boring game that is only liked by people who fancy themselves as intellectuals but are too lazy to read a book.

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>>388912171
Projecting, spic ?

>>388911954
Looks more like Call of Duty than Fallout desu.

>>388909580
>Does NV have any game breaking bugs like this?
Of course it did, it's an Obsidian game.

>>388904114
Story? God yes
Gameplay? Absolutely not
Endings? Fucked it up bad

If anyone here has watched Northernlions playthrough, when does he start Dead Money?

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>How you want your mod senpai

JUST

>>388907778
>moral is "letting go"
>never have to let go of anything because you can carry all the ammo/food/weapons/ect you want minus the crummy gold you'd rarely get to sell

>>388913367

The supposedly genius writers at Obsidian and they actually thought anyone would care about fucking cash...

>>388905185
>Not picking up all 37 gold bars and dropping them as one
>Not picking up the single gold nar manually and running tf out of there
>Not locking Elijah in an empty safe for the lulz
Git gud

>>388912413
*Bethesda

>>388906812
I'd really like a full game set in Zion. I really liked the verdant look.

Any good "new land" mods?

>>388910808
Wasn't it 72% 2 years ago ?
Also it seems it went way over scope and I don't think it will be stable.
Look at all those fancy vehicles, weapons and gravity that will make gamebryo implode.

>>388909580
Yep, if you do NCR runthrough and get the part where you need to defend kimble the person will never give you the quest. Oh and you can never do the quest, even if you reload previous saves.

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>>388904114
Geez you're easily impressed

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>>388909580
>not constantly hard saving throughout the game
>a bethdesa game no less
>playing the main story of fo3 in the first place
Jesus christ you're a fucking retard, you deserve everything you got.

>>388904114
lr>dm>owb>hh

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>>388910968
Not going to lie, NV is probably my most favorite game of all time but the start is pretty slow, once things actually get moving and you start doing odd jobs for the settlements you pass by it gets really good. Doing bitch work and meeting all the characters in Freeside so I can scrounge up enough dosh to get into the strip is one of the first highlights of the game.
But yeah, to anyone considering buying this don't be discouraged by the slow beginning, it starts to really shine once you start moving into Novac which is an hour to an hour and a half into the game at most.brb reinstalling

>>388918187
>not using the metro

>>388909580
There's this rare bug where taking a headshot from a throwing spear would crash the game

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>>388904114
Best DLC, while this was the best character in Fallout. Can we all agree?

>>388917874
Holy shit someone with the same exact ranking as me.

>>388913124
>Wamaningos
please no.

Side note: my friend and I came up with a theory that the tunnelers in LR are variations/evolutions of these same creatures.

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>>388917874
Lonesome Road is only good because of the Riot gear, Rachel charges, EDE upgrades and the gorillion special ammo. Story is fucking trash, especially BEAR AND BULL man. Also Red glare, Nail gun and industrial saw is neat too.

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>Hearing everyone in the DLC allude to this man
>hearing that voice over the radio
>Spotting him watching you from various spots on the Road
I know LR is flawed, but fuck Ulysses was so comfy. It's hard to think of many characters that are as enigmatic and compelling as him.

>"Who are you, that do not know your history?"

>>388919052
I'd call your theory bunk because looking at both of them there's drastic distinctions, 50 years is not enough time for Wanamingo's to drastically go from Eyeless tentacle maws on legs to glowing lizard people.

>>388919070
>HATE RIOT GEAR

It's just the duster with tons of clunky shit tacked on. Way to ruin a nice aesthetic.

>>388919102
He watches you on the road? Where? I'm an observant fucker that takes anything not nailed down but I never saw him.

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>>388919070
Regardless of how you feel about Ulysses, you can get some great dialogue out of him.

>pic related in which he notes to my female legionnaire that a legionnaire needs to wield a sword in their pants as well as in battle, and I reply that that's why he left the legion.

Side note: My playthrough as a female legionnaire was the best experience I've had in this game.

>>388909156
That was a bit of the point, either teach the Sorrows that fighting is a necessary evil to survive against those who want to harm you but lose their innocence in the process
Or keep them pacifist, keep their innocence but put them at the mercy of other raiders, and needing the dead horses to defend them and set internal struggles that might just a well kill them in the long run

>>388919260
>having such shit tastes
Surprised you even like New Vegas at all and not eating up Dogshit 4 with such abysmal tastes.

>>388919269
Fucking radical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKxiTjYD4bU

>>388919384
Surprised you don't. You like overdesigned shit.

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>>388919186
40 years, but if FEV were involved in some way, it would change them drastically, and probably in this exact way (Stronger limbs, claws instead of jelly arms).

Tunnelers and Wamaningos are native to California (As far as anyone can tell) and prefer to reside entirely within the underground. Both can easily kill Deathclaws, and both are of a hivemind mentality with a queen.

>>388914803
>pick single gold bars
>carry outside the vault
>something explode
>gold bars get thrown below deck

>>388919472
Give me one example of how the non-faction Elite Riot gear is "overdesigned" without muh shoulder pads faggot.

>>388918918
hh is easily the worst dlc and it shows. I don't understand the hardon for it here. joshua is not a saving grace for it, it's too shit. owb is not funny. the map is cool to explore, but the scorpions are always ridiculous and force me to cheese them. dm is always fun to replay and the characters maintain are capable of maintaining my interest. another fun map and it's got huge emphasis on exploring it. lr was great. take your best shit and go to war with waves of red subhumans that need to be purged. lots of cool items >>388919070, and a rambling maniac with interesting dialog that you can really dig into, even if you replay it.

>>388919594
>not having high sneak with a stealth boy and hiding behind the generator with all gold bars waddling towards the door when Elijah goes for the Terminal.
What a pleb.

DM=OWB=LR>HH

I do like the spore shit though, just me

>>388919867
>the radical centrist

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>>388904114

I thought Dead Money was okay. The change of pace and difficulty was interesting, but it quickly became easy once you realized how broken certain aspects of it were. Plus, I thought the story was cheesy by constantly hammering in the "Begin Again" message, though I mostly blame Laura Bailey's phoned-in performance.

>He didn't pick the most golden bars possible, leaving everything else behind

>>388919687
I think my biggest issue with HH, aside from maybe the fact that it attempts nothing new gameplay wise that the base game hasn't already done better, is the story. It makes 0 sense to side with Daniel's side. The White Legs are essentially a morally bankrupt raider gang with no allegiances, and leaving them in Zion only fucks up more of the tribes local to the area. The only reason one can argue not to kill them is to prevent Joshua Graham from exacting is wrath upon them, but clearly that's his purpose in Zion, and it's what allows him to amend for his mistakes in the Legion. Despite the overall better ending that comes from siding with Joshua over Daniel, a lot of extrinsic factors (for one example the value of the achievement/trophy being higher for siding with Daniel) seem to value choosing the less violent option. It's just kind of a mess of a dlc, and it adds the least to the story behind Ulysses and the Courier. As much as I like Graham as a character, it's not enough to hold together the very below average dlc.

>>388919668
Flange on the coattails. Protruding backpack. And yes, I'll mention the jarring shoulderpads and other bits of metal held together by buckles. lmaoing @ your shit taste

>>388904114
yes, it was

people hate it because they're casuals

>>388919867
>equals
This is why you don't rush through the dlc.

>>388904927
>OWB
>Not Lonesome Road

I thought the divide itself looked cool but I couldn't stand that nigger Ulysses ranting about "Muh bear and Bull."

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>>388919687
Honest Heart's saving graces was Joshua and Randal. Both phenomenal characters, especially Randal who lived a very rough life and died right when the events of Fallout 1 were taking place.

>>388909735
What the fuck was that all about anyway? I tried to be cool with him but the entire time he kept bitching and talking about killing me.

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>deleting NV so i can reinstall fresh
>35.2 GB

>>388919576
Only mr house can stop the tunnlers invading new Vegas and spreading

>>388920370
He's pissed off blaming you for nuking a community that created itself around pre-war America. Though in reality he's fucking crazy blaming the messenger who was just doing their job delivering shit.

>>388910968
I honestly can't stand the character creation. I liked it at first, answering all of Tue docs questions but it gets really tedious after the first time.

I use the roleplayers alternative start mod and set it to spawn me outside the docs house. Also gives you different starting gear depending on your background.

>>388920490
That's Ulysses you jackass.

>>388910808
I think they said on their Facebook page they're looking to release it at the end of the year or early next year.

Any updates on project Brazil? I know some posted the first 2 hours or something of part 2.

>>388920453
>old man who can't even upgrade his own securitrons
>stopping the tunnelers
Granted, he's got a better chance than the Courier on his own or the Legion, but NCR has the best chance. NCR swallowing Vegas makes the roads to the Mojave safer (no troops focused on pressing the Legion, instead just securing territory), increasing tourism, allowing the Strip to expand, granting more security, adding tourism, allowing more commerce to happen, causing more noise and more bright lights (their weakness).

Sure, an army of securitrons is good to have, but it doesn't stop the tunnelers from following NCR routes into California. The better secured those routes are, the worse of a chance the tunnelers have. You literally have to side NCR if you want Vegas to have any real future.

>>388920034
You need to play more fallouts

>>388920490
I meant God and how he's always threatening you.

>>388920370
He saw you as another greedy treasure Hunter through Dogs eyes as he was hauling you to the villa, and he was right because why the fuck would anyone follow a pre-war broadcast like that if it wasn't out of greed.

>>388910808
I forgot this existed.

>>388920740
>>388920758
It's so much more interesting than
[Strong disliked that]

>>388920758
>hey why is there a radio down there playing advertisements?
>Oh

I've played NV for over 150 hours but I never tried any of the dlc's. In which order should I play them? What level should my character be before I get into them?

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>>388920827
Everything about New Vegas is better, more interesting, well written and thought out than Todd and his Lou Tenant Pete Hines' abomination.

>>388920897
HH - DM> OWB > LR

>>388920897
play them in release order. it's also chronological.

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>>388920758

>Wonder where signal is coming from
>Find bunker with radio playing it
>Get gassed and dragged to the miserable hellhole against your will
>hurrduurrr u got what u deserve u greedy jew

>>388920897
Release order is fine, but I think Honest Hearts should be played before Dead Money. I personally feel it just works better this way.

Honestly as long as Lonesome Road goes last, it works.

>>388920896
Seriously God had a point threatening you because you brought yourself to the Sierra Madre following the lure of "all your dreams".

I wanna replay NV but the graphics have aged like sour milk, it's just so fucking ugly.

What do?

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>>388921061
>Wonder what Courier is doing in the vault
>Find way into the vault
>Get locked inside because Courier is too damn cunning
>hurrrdurrr u got what u deserve u greedy jew
it's like pottery

>>388921061
First red flag should have been the fucking headless corpse right on the other side of the room by the door, second is all the fanatical graffiti all over the walls of the bunker, final warning was the cloud fog vapors around the radio room. All of these were enough to tell you to get the fuck out yet you persisted into the trap room.

>>388920067
I just like (and dislike bits of) them for different reasons. It's been a while but I just like dark, world of DM, stalking the streets, scavenging for supplies to fight against spOoOoky enemies, and the companions were neato. In OWB, the scientists were sorta stupid, but it was fun in its own way, I liked finding all the experimental shit, and having background on certain things, robo scorpions were so-so. LRs story wasn't the fucking best, and it was PRETTY linear(though I could just be remembering it badly, because I do remember a little exploration, just not sure on how much), but I just really liked the design of the divide, like, alot, and the journey through it felt actually pretty comfy. HH had...Joshua?

>>388920896
I think god says something about how greed and curiosity are one in the same or something to that effect.

>>388921265
>The divide
>Comfy

Zion was the most comfy dlc area imo.

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>>388906601
New Vegas was the better game with the worst DLC.
This was gud DLC.

>>388921216
Is it possible to lock Elijah in the Vault and take all the gold? I've only done the method of hiding behind the Generator and make a break for the door when he goes for the terminal.

>>388921265
LR is linear. It's sort of the point. I personally dislike dlc that do nothing but give you more random shit to explore. I like that Dead Money and Lonesome Road tried something very different, and those dlcs are all the better for it.

>>388921175
get over it

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BEEP

>>388921327
the pit was great too

>>388921343
You can take the gold before you call him down to the vault. I don't know if it's possible to get ALL the gold without mods, but I'm sure someone has tried and, if not succeeded, gotten close.

>>388921327
I will fully admit that Point Lookout and especially The Pitt are better than most of the NV dlc. Only Lonesome Road feels on par with them.

>>388921314
>orange
>comfy
no

>>388921352

I mean what are some recommended mods to pretty it up?

It'd be fucking amazing if Bethesda actually re-released the game with 4's engine,

>>388921314
I just liked Divide in a sort of 'walking in the ashes of the old world' kind of way, which I'm pretty sure Obsidian aimed for so that's pretty good.

>>388921439
It is, which is the method I said, yet I wonder if it's possible actually locking Elijah in the empty vault with all the gold, I've never heard his dialogue in game with him locked in the dark vault room saying how he'll be there waiting for the Courier.

>>388921327

Point Lookout was alright. The bullet sponge enemies and their bullshit "do an additional 50 damage against the player" modifier was annoying as fuck, but I liked the spooky swampy horror the DLC had going for it that ultimately went nowhere and instead had some story about cunty ghoul agent and a supervillain brain.

>>388921512
I can see that, and I personally like the location as well. Honestly my only problem with LR is Ulysses rambling the entire time. I still consider it the weakest dlc but all the dlcs are good in their own ways.

>>388921612
I need to replay f3 and dlc. Too bad I won't.

Any tips for a new NV player on where to get weapons and shit, playing on normal right now and doing a crappy Melee build. Fucked up my stats but it shouldn't matter that much. Right...?

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>dead money has the vending machines
>honest hearts has the white legs and their high end weapons
>OWB has the sink
>lonesome road has the commissarys
why are the dlcs so brokenly op

>>388921712
>bought FO3 GotY edition
>played through FO3, had fun
>want to do the dlc
>hadn't installed dlc and with some fun with GFWL I'd have to start a new game to do dlc
>get New Vegas pretty soon after
>have a blast through it and the DLC
>many times
>to this day have never been bothered to play through FO3 again to do the dlc
I'm shit at life

>>388921824
Just do The Pitt on your old character. It's worth it.

And if you ever do go back to it, just skip Anchorage and Zeta. Literally the most garbage gameplay in all of (cannon) Fallout

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>>388921757

Aside from Dead Monies vending machines, I'd say LR is the worst offender since it throws so much food and ammunition your way compared to other DLCs, in areas like the Courier's Mile and the nuked towns.

>fallout 3 main story
>actually about something, you have a goal
>vegas main story
>not really about anything, there's a power struggle between a few factions who are all stupid faggots basically

>>388921860
>I'd have to start a new game to do dlc
Like, maybe there was a way not to, but I believe GFWL is out to fuck everyone at every turn

>>388921728
Well, there's a knife in a grave kind of near the Goodspring's Cemetery
. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Chance%27s_knife

And no, you really can't fuck up your build in NV (as long as you take sensible perks). It's too easy for that. If this were F1 or 2 I would say just try again.

>>388921728
>melee build
I usually hug black Mountain to get past those deathclaw and skidaddle to new Vegas with high luck to make mad dosh at the casinos. then I buy some implants and gear and the game begins.

>>388921953
Is there no way to just preserve your save file and just uninstall/reinsall the game?

>>388921908
>he can't use his imagination to develop motivations and goals for his character in a role-playing game

>>388921908
>fallout 3 story
>railroad plotline that has the same sacrifice yourself outcome
>fallout new vegas story
>isn't a railroad and has multiple choices that you can't do in one play through

>>388922048
Also probably not since I've replaced my computer since then.

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>>388921908
>tfw Fallout 4 is both of these

How is the wasteland going to deal with tunnelers? and what does the cloud do to gas masks? I remember the DLC mentioning it but i forgot.

>>388922160
>Fallout 4
>set in stone backstory
>Fallout NV
>Anything you want except that you've been a courier for at least a year
The downside with the latter is you don't know you've been a courier for that long until LR, so it might conflict with your imagination down the...road :^)

>>388922253

>set in stone backstory

Not quite? I mean you're either a soldier or the wife of a soldier, both are pretty vague and let you fill in the gaps.

>>388922332
If memory serves, the wife has a law degree. Also you have a son named Shaun you very much care about, and you're married, and you live in the town of Sanctuary Hills, Massachusetts, and you don't have a kawaii anime uguu voice...

>>388922332
>>388922054
>>388922070
>Replying seriously to bait

>>388922332
I don't think the soldier part is really the issue, I'd say the bigger problem is that you have a family. Your character is necessarily constrained in that their priorities are set: You want to find your son. In comparison, in the initial hours of New Vegas you can explicitly establish a desire to find and kill Benny, or you can play with other motives. Maybe you're just a really passionate mailman who really wants whatever he was supposed to deliver back. You don't have that freedom in 4.

It sucks when you realize that all the dlcs except for lonesome road are literally fetch quests, except for the last quest. Bring me pre-war tech, bring me personality holotapes, bring me 3 followers then look for them in a casino.
I think Honest Hearts is the best one, Joshua makes up for the sub-par quests and the catharsis is really satisfied.
OWB was way too quippy and scavenging for tapes got old reaallly fast. I liked Mobius and the Think Tank's pre war houses, though.
Lonesome Road was really confusing even after talking to Ulysses, if you don't spend all the time looking for his memoirs it makes no sense and even after finding you have to connect a lot of dots. Like there was any way of knowing you were responsible for blowing up a region. I also think that it would've been the hardest one to get through if I hadn't cheesed it with my minigun.
Dead Money punished exploration and no matter how many >muh casual filter replies I get, the unkillable beeping machines and smoke were annoying as fuck. The only redeeming thing was Deano, whom I love to this day. All the other characters are overrated. Also how the fuck did Christie keep her gear?

>>388922332
You can't be a low charisma, low intelligence cannibalistic gay dude because you already have a wife and a kid
>but you can pretend the freezing/shock of seeing the apocalypse made you forget about them
Not when the game revolves around finding your son

>>388922630
Thank god for the Start Me Up mod.

Sure, it kills any of the interesting backstory your character might have in connection to the Commonwealth. Still an upgrade from a main plot that urges you to find your son. Starting in the glowing sea with x3 dmg on and very hard difficulty actually made Fo4 fun again.

I remember some details of the sierra madre fondly, but it makes every single level design error that is possible for a designer to make

darkness
mazy
concealed traps
poison areas
'find the tiny lethal thing'
arbitrary ambushes
bullet sponges

I'm probably forgetting a few too, sierra madre was the worst that fallout has ever been at FPS mechanics

>>388923154
>bullet sponges
they literally tell you to melee them
>arbitrary ambushes
where?
>poison areas
specifically there to either deny space in a fighting area or as risk to obtain a reward
>concealed traps
where? Hard to see I'll grant you, but not concealed. That's more a fault of aesthetics than gameplay.
>mazy
Taking any one path usually leads you in the direction you want to go. Very little of it is at all like a maze.
>darkness
Again, an aesthetic mistake, not really a gameplay one.

The one thing I will grant you is finding the tiny sound traps before your collar explodes. That was pure trial and error.

All of that said, I really liked DM the second time I played it, but I despised it the first time.

>>388909156
t. fat yank

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I used to think it was good but then I found it tedious.
It tries to be a survival horror simulator but horribly fails at it. You don't really have to be careful to survive, nor there is resource scarcity, because you are showered in chips which you can turn in to receive unlimited ammo and stimpaks. With all the rewards from vending machines, it sort of becomes a boring linear shooter.

>>388923405
>specifically there to either deny space in a fighting area or as risk to obtain a reward
What rewards are you thinking about? It doesn't have the best weapons/armor and almost all the lore is fed to you by exposition dialogue, as opposed to owb where a lot of it was in computers, houses and flags placed by Ulysses.
At most, you're finding ammo or stimpaks which you wouldn't have needed if you didn't go through the trouble to get to them

Tell me about your roleplays, guys. Not matter how autistic they are.

>>388919287
>My playthrough as a female legionnaire was the best experience I've had in this game.
My last playthrough was the same. Tell me about yours.

>>388923972
If you're playing on survival you find food/water which is rare enough. If you're quick enough, the reward outweighs the penalty. You shouldn't get some unique grenade rifle or leather armor just for running through a toxic cloud for 5 seconds.

As to your point on lore: There are, in fact, a lot of computers in Dead Money that explain the origins of the area as a testing site for big MT. Because it's not as free and large of an area as Big MT, you get more lore through dialogure, but that makes sense: the characters you are talking to are directly important to your story, the story of the Sierra Madre, and the story of Father Elijah. It's not exposition if it's not given to you without inquiry- you literally have to go through the dialogue trees to find all the real lore behind these characters, which is particularly interesting to do in Christine's case.

Hell, I prefer getting lore through characters. The dialogue tree is underutilized in 3D Fallouts- knowing the right thing to say to receive more information is a skill on the part of the player, and the original Fallout games make great use of the system. Only Dead Money really sits on par with them in that regard (LR and some parts of New Vegas get close).

>>388908410
I had much more trouble with Honest Hearts combat-wise.

>>388924467
Well, in addition to the conversation you can have with Ulysses, about it, my favorite thing how the way the Leigon treats you as you rise up feels very different because they don't allot you the same privileges. For example, you can't fight in the arena, no matter how important you are to the Legion. A slave girl told me I should watch my back because the men were supposedly talking behind my back about what they could do to me. All of this made the victory over NCR at the end of the game sweeter- not because I proved that a woman could do the same job as a man or any bullshit like that, but because I proved to the Legion that, no matter how much they doubted me, I wasn't willing to give up their cause.

It was a subtle difference in most situations, but that feeling of progression felt more rewarding than usual. It was just fun.

>>388924763
My female Courier was using the Legion as a tool of vengeance. She wanted to beat the NCR, and do it in a way that would hurt them immensely. She did like the Legion, because she came from a very violent background and in the Legion being a violent fuck was rewarded. She had the same mentality as Lanius in that she followed Caesar just because he gave her things to destroy and objectives to kill. The Legion's ideals were, for the most part, worthless to her. That's why she didn't really care about the way they treated women; they "deserved it for being so weak and useless".
This devotion to violence also led her to work with Graham out of respect for such a deadly man despite his past with the Legion.

>>388924943
Mine also sided with Graham under the ideal that the strong must destroy the weak and band together. I definitely had her approach it from a more ideological standpoint, where her meeting with Vulpes just made everything click- this woman who sees NCR's rule being pushed on people and senseless death and debauchery around her at every turn decides that it's worth purging the wasteland of all of the people who only serve themselves and serve corruption- death for a purpose. The Legion's treatment of women didn't matter to her because, like you mentioned, it was about strength- she had nothing to fear because she was strong, and any lesser treatment was just as unimportant because the cause mattered too much.

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>Fallout 1.5 Resurrection Mod is so good it's like a real Fallout game! says /v/
>Try it

>pick the tard strength default character
>awful level design
>boring characters
>overpowered enemies
>leave the rat town because the quests are impossible and mercenaries have way too much health and do too much damage
>immediately run into scripted ghouls with guns that one shot me
>restart game as tryhard 10 agility fag
>murder whole starting town after finishing quests because they're fucking forgettable and it gives you tons of items and a shovel for gravedigging
>buy 10mm pistol and it still does fuck all against any enemy and you die in two hits

This game is fucking garbage. Even Fallout 4 is better.

>>388924358
My current guy was just a courier/gun for hire looking for some quick cash, and he is EXACTLY autistic but trying to be as fair as possible, i.e. doing 1 side quest for Legion for helping me kill Benny, helping guys who help me etc.
After delivering the chip and making bank at the casinos, the fucking idiot thought he'd actually find a resort at Sierra Madre. Whatever, after dealing with that and hearing about the Big MT and the other courier, went along and did the other dlcs looking for him.
He slowly grew from leather armor/gun for hire to expensive business suits/set for life careless vanity fag after delivering the chip, to anti-technology after owb, to less vanity ridden/anti-tribalism after honest hearts, to wearing the courier duster after LR, to eventually US Army General outfit at the battle for Hoover Dam, but unsure if I'm going with NCR or Yes Man.

I'd do NCR only for the quests which I've heard are the most interesting and I fear that the Yes-Man questline is too similar to House's, which I've already done.

I'm also hard resetting my sleep schedule so if nothing I wrote makes sense, it's because i've been awake for 20 hours

>>388923154
>level design error
>mazy
are you working at Valve as a playtester by any chance

did you ever get to test Ep. 3/HL3 content

>>388904114
Odd, i found it to be a tedious mess that i couldnt wait to finish

>>388925271
>he is EXACTLY
meant he is not exactly autistic but close to it, always trying to be fair or whatever
So anyway could someone share some advice on the questlines?

>>388921353
fuck, those things do alot of damage and explodes fast.

>>388909580
>'dude what are console commands lmao'
Would have taken you 5 seconds to fix.

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>>388922630
The quests in NV were pretty terrible, along with the empty levels, lack of enemies, and the dlc being mostly shit because they were influenced heavily by Avellone.

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>>388909580
I've never experienced that bug in several playthroughs

>>388920897
Lonesome Road last

>>388924535
>If you're playing on survival you find food/water which is rare enough.
Do you not get robo food dispensers in Survival?

>>388926648
They don't have water.

>he didn't sneak past elijah with all the gold bars

>>388927209
>he didn't shoot him and drag all the gold bars in his dead corpse alongside with you
casul

>gib guy in vault
>take body part inside with you
>store gold bars in eyeball
>carry eyeball to exit
>game broken

>decide to re-check sexout for new vegas
>they got a proffessional animator who was interested in the project to re-do all the animations!
>instead of replacing the animations, they just added them in as extras
Thankfully I don't give enough of a shit about it because the mod for new vegas is somehow the worst variation.

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>>388904114
>Gold bars say they weight less than one pound
>Weight 45 pounds

I mean, I get it about letting go, but really? It's not like you can't get literally thousands of pre war moneys by turning in your sierra madre chips at the casino. Each chip is one stack of money, and that sells for up to 10 caps per piece, and is weightless.

Not like it matters, you can glitch the gold even for the consoles.

>>388927860
5 gold bars is more than you'll care to spend in your play-through. Plus there's maybe 2 vendors that carry enough caps to buy one off you at a time.

>>388921457
You can use textures overhaul mods but will still looks aged
Shaders and HDR mods are basically buggies

>>388928374
Each gold bar equals maybe one of the GRA Weapons. Plus, everything in LR and OWB is overpriced. Like the implants, which average at 10k caps

More than enough, yes, but 5 bars won't get you anywhere

>>388909802
exactly this.

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>>388925268
>this took half a decade to make
jesus christ

>>388925268
I never heard about it. Basic Gesalt?

>>388929057
It's terrible.
>The dialogue is edgy for the sake of being edgy cringe shit and some of the translations are really poor, it's a Czech mod
>Enemies are overpowered as fuck and their are literally no weapons, armor, or items to be found in the world so you are fucked if you don't put points into barter
>Even with combat armor enemies hit you for more that 10 points of damage with a shitty pistol
>About 6 locations in the entire game

>>388929393
Is it a F1 or F2 mod? Is it stand alone or an addition to main game?

>>388904114
>You can carry a portable nuke launcher, a full set of power armor, more guns than the Gun Runners and hundreds of explosive devices in a single backpack
>LMAO those gold bars are just too heavy for you! You gotta let go dude! It's all about letting go!

>>388929519
F2 mod

>>388929758
yeah, see
>>388927860
I mean, just from gambling, you get 10k chips, which translates to 10k pre war money, or about 100k caps. Plus, you get a coupon for 1000 extra chips as a streak reward from casino, so that's another 10k caps, without a single extra pound on you, and that's not counting any other chips you have. You can easily take another few gold bars in pre war money alone, it's such a forced decision. One way or another, you're going back loaded, with money and gear, you're not letting jack shit go

>>388921908
>fallout 3 main story
>Stop dudes from turning on a purifier so you can turn on a purifier and dump several hundred gallons of clean water into the ocean

>>388931665
Did you even play the game m8? The purifier didn't dump water into the river. The ocean is miles away from D.C.

>>388928502
>more than you care
do you really need a 10k implant that increases your damage against mosquitoes?
Also you find 10 rockets every fucking meter in LR and that shit sells for a lot of caps. I've made most of my fortune selling ammo now that I think of it.

>>388922528
>Game expects you to care about wife and Shaun
>Wife dies 5 minutes into the game
>Shaun becomes an unlikeable piece of shit
>Game still somehow expects me to care
>Fuck a qt reporter and french robot instead and blast Shaun's face at point blank range with a shotgun

This morning I was thinking about why Fallout 4 was so boring, and it me. It got stealth-SJW'd. Do you realize how many controversial elements are in that game that got completely ignored?

>slavery / slave trade
>sex slaves
>teenage sex slaves
>sex robots/synths
>prostitution
>drugs
>drug addiction
>drug smuggling
>drinking
>hired assassins
>exotic dancing
>pornography
>over-militarization

They put all these engaging elements (and a lot more) in this game, and completely ignore them instead of using them as a basis for interesting quests and story lines. The entire game is 1 big fucking SafeSpace that's made to feel like it's dangerous, but isn't.

>no children without guardians near by
>only child left unattended is a quest to return them to their parents.
>90% of the quests involve helping hobos and helpless women instead of joining with other capable people to achieve a goal.
>children act like they had a strict upbringing in only the finest British charm & beauty academies.

How fortunate for all these children in the untamed wasteland! And let's not get started on how there's all these women living alone on farms and shit with raiders 45 seconds to the east that miraculously don't abduct them as sex slaves. No, no. They just abduct them for fun. Then you have to go save them.

Absolutely fucking SJW'd,.

>>388933271
that and aside from the melee combat not feeling clunky anymore, the game is shit

so i just started honest hearts for the first time, a bunch of the characters i've heard people talk about attacked me and i had to kill them. failed a bunch of quests. picked up a map and now it's telling me to go back to the mojave. what in the shit happened?

ive done just about every kind of weapons run i can think of save for exclusively explosives, what other kinda shit can i do to make the game interesting?

>>388933770
you shot a friendly tribal NPC who is supposed to introduce you to the setting in the beginning of the game

the fact that you fail the quest immediately as you shoot him should've been a giveaway, I guess

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>>388904114
>Every time I try to play New Vegas now it just crashes within an hour of me playing
>No mods except the community bug fixes installed
Thanks gamebryo

>>388916256
one of the flora overhauls makes the entire mojave look like zion but i cant remember which one

>>388933271
This post made me kill myself, I'm writing from the afterlife.

Literally none of those inconsequential narrative elements had anything to do with why the game was boring as shit and had shit gameplay. They literally stripped out all RPG elements and turned it into a boring open world loot shooter and slapped on an unnecessary voiced protagonist without any meaningful choices to make in dialogue or consequences that affect the world around you. It's the most linear feeling game Bethesda has made.

/v/ blaming "sjw's" on everything that sucks is as lazy and transparently desperate as /pol/ blaming everything on the Jews. Fucking pathetic, grow up.

>>388910968
Not to get autistic, but you should decide what kind of courier your character was before Benny. Also don't be afraid to just do the classic gunslinger trope, which I had fun with.

>>388933986
are there any quests i can still do? and why was he with a bunch of hostile NPCs if he's not supposed to be?

>>388934256
I don't want to participate in the "SJW" shit flingery, but exploring darker sides of the setting in the suitably mature way was indeed one of those things that made New Vegas writing stand above FO3 and FO4 (and in some way above the original games, even). I wouldn't blame SJWs for that, though. Bethesda just can't write for shit.

>>388934318
>are there any quests i can still do?
Not really. You can explore the caves to get some cool terminal entries, though.
>why was he with a bunch of hostile NPCs
There's a scripted scene where he sneaks behind one of those hostile NPCs (White Legs) and kills him (her?) to demonstrate that he's from another tribe. But I guess if you see one tribal who you know is hostile and another tribal is running.walking behind him you might think they're both from the same tribe. You racist prick.

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>>388904114
More like this shit was fucking tedious, especially how scary the ghost people are I liked the story though

>>388934608
i actually saw that his compass ticker was friendly but one of my bullets hit him while i was shooting the other guy. and i don't like to reload saves because it takes me out of the immersion. guess i'll just explore for a while.

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Yes Man or House?

>>388918187
I never reached freeside before having enough cash to enter strip, even when I didn't linger too much. I don't get it, how can you not gather enough unless you're rushing there as fast as possible?

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>>388932643
>get into the Institute
>do some quests
>realize what a bunch of creepy cunts they are, replacing people with cyborg copies
>side with the Brotherhood
>attack the Institute
>find Shaun dying of cancer in bed
>weasel the code to shut down synths out of him
>he essentially tells me to go fuck myself
>beat him to death with my bare hands
>mfw
How do you like me now, you old smug faggot?

>>388935387
>not tagging speech and talking a pass out of the gun shop guys
I always do this, then I can do the Freeside quests however I want.

>>388937849
For all its flaws, I still enjoy playing 4. If Todd gets his fucking shit together, 5 could be a masterpiece.