Torrent when?

NEVER
EVER

just go play a rom hack.

>>388885547
I don't wanna tho

>>388885727
too bad
and I have the torrent too :)

>>388885865
Why would someone go on the internet and tell lies?

>>388885385
why not buy the game?

>>388887420
I don't support denuvo

Get it on a console then

>>388889179
What makes denuvo worse than other anti-piracy software?

>>388885385
Buy it you jew.

>>388889412
It obfuscates the executable, it hinders performance, it's always online and it only affects paying consumers.

>>388889613
^

>>388889486
>Send your money directly to Taxman and Stealth
FTFY

>>388889412
fucks up ssds and gets cracked within a week leaving only paying customers suffering

>>388885385
two days :^)

>>388889724
>using a sub 1TB SSD in current year

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You're not missing out on much.

>Two thousand and seventeen
>Still into the piracy meme
I bet you live in a third world shithole, there's no other way.

>Life is Strange had its Denuvo cracked within a day or two
>Mania is still stuck in limbo

What a future to live in

>>388889613
How can it hinder performance when it according to its own system requirements, a Pentium IV PC could run it?

>>388890094
Denuvo works by running a virtual machine. Given the game was delayed 4 days away from release strictly to add Denuvo, it's safe to say these requirements were measured while it was Denuvo-free.

>>388890269
That doesn't answer my question.

Dude it's 20 bucks. If you can afford Internet, you can afford this game.

>>388890345
Then educate yourself on virtual machines.

Hopefully within a couple of days
I bought the game and am happy with it but I also want sega to take a hit for being such scumbags about the delay and drm.

>>388890481
The game runs perfectly fine. You're argument is overblown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aU9z2v3J-w

>>388890026
half a shekel has been deposited into your account

>>388889991
post it

>>388890670
>CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.50GHz Overclocked @ 4.5GHz
>GPU: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 ROG Strix OC Gaming 8GB
>RAM: HyperX Savage 16 GB 1866 MHz DDR3
Are you retarded?

>>388890909
Do you have actual visual evidence that the DRM is hindering perfromance? NO because you would have posted it by now if you had.

>>388885385
>be poor college kid
>pirate all kinds of games, unless game was awful would usually beat the whole game

>10 years later
>havnt pirated in years, cant be bothered
>steam library with 100's of games never played that i buy on sales. when i do start a new game i almost always drop it after a few hours

should i go back to pirating /v/

>>388891041
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/06/crackers-say-denuvo-drm-caused-slowdown-on-rime/

>>388885385
There's one on the host site steampowered.com, its only $20 to unlock

>>388891217
>https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/06/crackers-say-denuvo-drm-caused-slowdown-on-rime/
ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED? No seriously are you legitimately fucking retarded? That article is clearly for Rime, not Sonic Mania you fucking idiot.

>>388891412
You asked for evidence that DRM is hindering performance, you got it.

>>388891412
Not him, but you can write that article the moment Sonic gets cracked and you can compare the performance

>>388891498
In a Sonic Mania thread, you fucking mong.

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>>388891412
>Asks for evidence that Denuvo hinders performance
>Is provided said evidence
>N-NO YOU'RE RETARDED BECAUSE I DIDN'T STATE MY ARGUMENT CORRECTLY
Not even that guy, but please stop embarrassing yourself

>>388890026
>Spelling out the year
I don't think you live where I live and you probably live in a shitty country like OP.

>>388891573
Mind you it would only count if the triggers were stripped from the game, as far as I know only Baldman managed to. A bypass would perform the exact same.

>>388891594
And I just showed you how all Denuvo games are running constant checks.

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>>388891757
>Not asking to be specific when the thread is specifically about Sonic Mania

>>388891867
But not once have you shown that Denuvo hinder's Sonic Mania's gameplay, you projecting past events into the present and trying to pass them off as issues now on a game that requires only a fraction of the power that the example game uses.

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>>388885385
>d-d-denuvo doesn't do anything!!!
>still no torrent 2 days later

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>>388891969
Actually it's a Denuvo/piracy thread. Less than a handful of posts in this thread mention Sonic Mania at all, and half of them are you stating that it's a Sonic Mania thread. I'm not surprised that you think it's a Mania thread though, seeing as how you're too stupid to read the posts and only look at the pictures.

>>388892084
Shut the fuck up with your goalpost moving.

You wanted proof and were spoonfed an answer. Sit the fuck down and drink your goddamn tea.

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>>388892084
this better be bait

>>388892084
>Denuvo is totally different now because reasons
Okay then lad, see you once Mania is stripped of Denuvo.

>>388892097
>doenst do anything
>he thinks a lack of TPB torrent means it doesnt exist

what a fool
also sonic is shit

>>388885385

I haven't run across any problems with Denuvo yet, whats so bad about it? I keep hearing about constant checks slowing down your game, but I can play nier and sonic mania while watching youtube while my internet is being throttled.

>>388892457
>it exists nobody's uploading it tho! that's it
okay sweetie

>>388891086

Pick up another hobby. You'll get the urge to play shit after a long enough break. Worked for me.

That dunkey easter egg though

>>388892208
What does OP's picture look like?

>>388892328
The goal posts were always in the same place when a Sonic Mania picture was used as the profile pic. This isn't me as much shifting the goal post but more of you making petty excuses as to why you keep missing the goal.

>>388892703
It's easier to just say "bump" instead of playing an actual retard to keep a thread alive, though you play the role like a champ.

>>388892578
There isn't any problems when it comes to Sonic Mania, just PC fanboys and their Masterrace Superiority Complex bullshittery.

>>388892936
I keep asking cause you're the one that keeps claiming it:

Show me visual evidence that Denuvo is causing performance problems in Sonic Mania.

If you don't then you are clearly full of shit.

>>388893008
You'd be complaining too if they delayed the game so you couldn't run it offline, Sonygro. Or maybe not. Companies do get away with everything with you lot.

>>388893161
The game can run offline now. Sega fixed that issue so what are you whining about?

>>388893161
Now who's shifting the goal posts.

>>388893242
>I'm a huge fucking retard who doesn't know what he's talking about but I feel like voicing my ignorant opinions anyway
Nice. Can always expect the dumbest shit to come from you people.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/584400/discussions/0/1474221865179730527/?ctp=24

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>>388892703
I'm sorry that this thread is moving too fast for you to keep up with, but the thread was talking about Denuvo when you made the decision that everyone should read your mind and know that you were talking about something that you didn't say you were talking about. Again, try reading some words instead of just looking at the pictures sweetie.

>>388889412
Here we fucking go again.

CRACK JUST DROPPED IN THE DISCORD

Its shit, dont waste your time

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>>388889412
It's malware. Before you contend this, it fits the security definition of malware.

>>388889613
This.

>>388890094
0. Specs were published before Denuvo was added. Not updated after, no testing was done.
1. Companies are not legally liable for specs and they're only ever estimates.
2. Denuvo is known and proven to cause performance issues with its hypervisor virtual machine layer.
3. You can read reviews on steam of people who pre-ordered and said Denuvo slowed it down compared to their console versions. Before you claim all of them run toasters, go actually read the sheer number of reviews.
4. Via the same reviews, Denuvo is preventing people from playing with a popup telling them they're in offline mode (they aren't). Sega claimed this was a "bug" (it's not. it's a Denuvo feature) and that they patched it (they didn't, recent reviews say people are still having this problem after the patch). There's no way to prove they didn't just send a 1-week token and this problem won't resurface in 7 days. Did I mention this Denuvo phone-home feature is only good for 7 days at a time?
5. In addition to phone-home and performance problems, Denuvo locks you out of other OSes like Mac and Linux. Any time you can play a game in *nix, you absolutely fucking should, as it increases framerate even in Wine.
6. With Denuvo in a game, once auth servers are down, it's expired permanently and can never be played again. Darkspore is evidence that companies won't remove the DRM just because the servers expired.
7. PC players shouldn't have to pay the same for more encumbered software.
8. The free Sonic 1 game 14 days before release expired everyone's right to refund it on Steam. Whether intentional or not, people can no longer exercise their consumer rights against having a Denuvo game. You only have to read the reviews to find out they really fucking hate it.
9. Consider not sucking corporate cock next time you post.

>>388889692
The objectively correct solution. I've been searching for a donate for them. Anyone got links?

>>388894981
>it fits the security definition of malware.
so? It doesn't do anything malicious, why does it matter if it fits some arbitrary definition?

>>388891217
Don't forget nu-DOOM.

>>388891969
Hope you don't tucker yourself out moving those goalposts.

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>>388895065
So you think none of that is malicious?

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>>388894981
Couldn't have said it better myself Anon.

>>388895065
>Term defined by professionals and universally accepted by everyone in every tech field
>"It doesn't count because I say it doesn't count!"
It actually does have malicious intent, it was made to prevent you from making changes to a product that you paid for, as well as restricting access to said product. Please, try harder, maybe you'll actually say something of worth.

>>388895535
I never said it doesn't count, I said it doesn't matter.
>prevent you from making changes to a product that you paid for
Giving something money doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. Purchases are a contract with terms and conditions.

>>388894981
>5. In addition to phone-home and performance problems, Denuvo locks you out of other OSes like Mac and Linux. Any time you can play a game in *nix, you absolutely fucking should, as it increases framerate even in Wine.
this shit always weirded me out
like even with shit like emulators, I end up just using the Windows builds in Wine rather than native Linux versions just because they run better

>>388890026
>he has a PC
>he buys SP games
Literally no reason to at all. All I have on steam are mp games.

I'd like to pirate it, only so I can seed it and up my ratio.

>>388896065
>I never said it doesn't count, I said it doesn't matter.
Potato potato, it's the same thing. You're disregarding a fact because you don't like it.

>Giving something money doesn't mean you can do whatever you want.
It's not like there's only one copy of Sonic Mania and if you tamper with it than you change the game for everyone. You purchased an item, you own that item, you can do whatever you want to that item. If I smashed a wooden chair I owned against the wall, i'm not breaking any rules. Sure, i'm being a fucking idiot in doing so, but I own the chair, I own the house, I can do it if I want to.

>>388897251
I'm disregarding a fact because it's not relevant
So it fits the technical definition of malware. So what? Why is malware inherently bad?

>You purchased an item, you own that item
You own the right to play the game how the seller intends as outlined in the user agreement.

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>>388897429
>Why is malware inherently bad?
Nigga it's in the first 3 letters

Mania is a Sonic game made my fans who started out their careers by modding Sonic games. It's a slap in the face to the dev team for Sega to add in Denuvo at the last second as it ineffectively prevents the game from being modded. The devs are pissed about it too, they've been passive-aggressively rallying people to bitch at Sega for adding it.

>>388898069
It's an arbitrary word with an arbitrary definition

Discrimination isn't inherently bad, unless you think it's unfair that a black man can't portray the queen in a biopic

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>>388898189

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>>388898189
The word discrimination doesn't have the root word meaning bad in it, now does it you fucking troglodyte?

You're trying really hard to fixate on refuting this one thing, like it's the only thing you have left in your argument to cling on to, and yet your only rebuttal is that it does't matter because you don't agree with it. You can admit you're wrong you know, you don't have to try and save face on this anonymous forum.

>>388898862
My argument from the very start has been that the fact that it fits the definition of malware is irrelevant and does not mean that it is inherently bad, despite the arbitrary definition of a word that has its own negative connotations

>>388898189

Please, Anon, explain to me how this malware is good for me. Or, you know, fuck off, because you're just acting like a sperglord.

>>388899192
Explain how it's bad first

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>>388899065
>My argument from the very start
You dropped the part of your argument about not being allowed to alter something you own.

>the fact that it fits the definition of malware is irrelevant and does not mean that it is inherently bad
If a thing fits a word, and the word means that the thing is bad, than yes, the thing is bad. I'm honestly baffled by your ignorance.

>>388899386
>>388894981

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>>388885385
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>>388899065

Define arbitrary for me first. I'm not sure you know what it means.

I hope it doesn't come out any time soon so we can keep having hilarious threads like these daily.

>>388894981
Anon before today I thought Denuvo was just to trigger pirates.
Now I see why this presents such a huge problem with it's poor track record.

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https://tcrf.net/Sonic_Mania#Unused_Sprites
so, we can extract the shit from the Data.rsdk file, and there's a fucking lot of unused sprites and shit

>>388899636
>>388899065
Okay, if you want the specific classification of malware for Denuvo, it would be the following:

Trojan.Rootkit

Trojans are split into several categories. Here's one:

Rootkits are designed to conceal certain objects or activities in your system. Often their main purpose is to prevent malicious programs being detected – in order to extend the period in which programs can run on an infected computer.

Source: Kaspersky classification system

Since Denuvo runs a black-box virtualization layer, it could be running anything in there. Including harvesting your data without your consent. I'm not saying I believe it does, but blackboxing in an unwanted software automatically qualifies it as malware. Don't believe it's unwanted? Check the reviews.

At the most conservative, Denuvo can be classified as a "PUP". But the common trait with PUPs is that usually, they either get accidentally installed, or forcibly installed with some way to remove them. PUP means "Potentially Unwanted Program". Potentially means it wasn't solicited. Since no one asked for Denuvo, it's unsolicited.

None of this even takes into consideration the types of malware that screw performance. Denuvo in general has been proven (Doom, Rime) to ruin performance in the same games on the same systems versus when it was removed. Viruses and Trojan.Downloader/Dropper types typically do this.

>>388885385

Here is an idea. get a PS4 or an XboxOne or a Switch. Then get Sonic Mania free of any DRM since the Console version is already an DRM. the best part about the console version?

You can play it offline

>>388890026
>[THE CURRENT YEAR]
>whining about piracy on 4chan

As if you need any more proof /v/ is the worst board

>>388895065
Not being removable from your PC even after you uninstall it is pretty fucking malicious

>>388899386
That's not how it works. Denuvo doesn't offer anything but negatives to the end user. The same can't be said for steam, which at least provides you with some service.

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>>388885865

http://www.strawpoll.me/13835162
http://www.strawpoll.me/13835162
http://www.strawpoll.me/13835162

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Is it wrong if I torrent this game? I bought two copies, one on the Xbox and one on the Switch.

>>388901829
If you already bought it I don't see why you should feel bad

>>388901829
Everyone should be pirating the PC version, whether they own another versions or not.

>>388885385
you could I don't know? pay the devs for their hardwork by purchasing it on the platform that didn't get the DRM

it sucks that PC users got shafted this time around but whatever, doesn't mean you deserve free shit

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>>388885385
>go on IGG games and download it as I always do

>"WARNING, THIS SOFTWARE HAS DENUVO AND DRM"

>>388900980
I'm saving this post too. a lot of people think that the only reason that Denuvo is bad is because it requires only line, but it gets so much worse.

>>388902067
>Denuvo
>and
>DRM

mmmmmm that sweet 45fps gameplay while malware tracks your PC

>>388902067
pat robertson looks like a chimpanzee

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>want to enjoy Sonic Mania after waiting 20+ years for a proper 2D Sanic game
>but don't want to install malware on my computer for a subpar experience
>don't own any other 8th-9th gen console because they're all unappealing to me
>somehow, someway, against all odds, SEGA finds a way to ruin Sonic Mania
>EVEN WHEN THEY DON'T FUCKING DEVELOP IT

This truly is the worst Sonic timeline.

>>388885385
Shoulda bought it when it was for pre-order to save like what, $2-3~ on tax?
It's pretty worth it if you like Sonic and wanna support the devs.
Otherwise, you're out of luck, at least for the moment.

>>388904367

Honestly it's still worth getting. Game is fun and the devs seem hell-bent on unfucking the situation. They even got a Sega Employee to quit their job after getting hounded by customers.

Thing'll get better but if you really want the game I highly recommend just jumping into it and dropping a negative review to aid the cause.

>>388904683
I pre-ordered it from Bundlestars, but I refuse to download it until it's confirmed that Denuvo is no longer a part of it, or until there's a cracked version, whichever comes first.

>>388885385
The files have been uploaded on skidrowgamesreloaded and other such shites but still no fucking crack

lazy cunts get back to work

>>388892579
It's on https://skidrowgamesreloaded.com/sonic-mania-full-unlocked/ you dumb nigger
It just hasn't been cracked yet

>>388905097
Which is odd since all Denuvo games have had keys generated globally for them. The keys satisfy the VM itself, so it's unpatchable. This was released by Steampunks team for Just Cause 3.

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>>388900719
FUCKING IIZUKA DIDNT LET THEM USE HYPER SONIC REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>388891086
Just this one.

SkidrowIRCFag if you're reading this please update us on Sonic Mania's cracking status

>>388905232
Indie games like this probably have less priority
I dunno

>>388901829
Absolutely not. Pirate that shit NOW.

>>388904367
Torrent.

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>>388900719
Hyper would make sense since this game is as long as 3&K and has nearly the same density of special rings, meaning you can get everything in the first two zones. Kind of a bummer.

>>388905232
>Steampunks
What a piece of shit this site is
I just downloaded the Sonic Mania crack from there but it was a fucking virus

>>388905730
Hyper was probably a reward you could have gotten through Blue Spheres

>>388905097
>Instructions: wait for crack
>Note: wait for crack
>Further note: crack is not released
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>388905730
TOO
FAR

Iizuka doesn't like Super Chaos Emeralds and Hyper forms.

>>388906414
It takes a while with shit like Denuvo I imagine

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CRACK IS OUT!!!
HAHAHAHHAHA DENUVO SHILLS BTFO
https://steampunksgames.com/sonic-mania-steampunks-crack-pc-download-torrent

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>>388907184
Nice try faggot but I'm not desperate enough to fall for that

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>>388907184
Seems legit.

>>388906614
yeah, but Iizuka's a fucking hack
kind of wish he didn't have so much fucking history with Sonic Team so someone else could take the lead and unfuck things

>>388901829
Pirate or not either way you get Denuvo on your computer.

IIRC all cracks do is just disable it. It still gets into your systems like a Trojan horse.

Grab it while it's hot lads
http://file.up09.com/w0dq88k3b5ro

>>388907806
>IIRC all cracks do is just disable it.
no

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>>388907867
Don't download it, it's just this stupid gif

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>>388907867

Who even does this in 2017 anymore

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Really makes you think.

>>388894981
Original poster of this here. I left out 2 points against Denuvo because I had no evidence for them yet. However, I've since found some sources. I'll share one of which at the bottom of the post. Feel free to check others yourself, the rabbit hole gets deep.

10. Denuvo has been reported by many people to brick SSDs. Since SSDs have a limited number of NAND writes, and Denuvo was chewing through max-writes at an alarming rate, it has been making SSDs into read-only bricks. Found a confirmed account below.

11. Denuvo is so strict it doesn't just stop other-OS usage. It also stops the built-in Steam family sharing feature. Even original account owners were having a problem playing (see 4 above). However, it completely locks out family share by design. You have to be the original account owner to even launch the game. Video evidence below.

Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upfkk6fIN2A
Skip about 3 mins.

>>388890082
The quality of the game correlates to the amount of time needed to crack it.

>>388907806
>disable it
They only satisfy its token requests. Denuvo fully functions on pirated copies. nu-DOOM was taking a solid 5 minutes to load on pirated copies, same as official. When Denuvo was stripped, it loaded in a much more reasonable time frame.

>>388908031
That's not the download
You should click the free download button

>>388908068
>/v/ is filled with shills
wew lad

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>>388908613
I mean, you're not fucking wrong, but look at the game we're talking about here.
>yfw the Pro-Denuvo-Debater in this thread is one of the fags that made the decision to put Denuvo on Sonic Mania in the first place
y-you think we educated them?

>>388904367
>EVEN WHEN THEY DON'T FUCKING DEVELOP IT

Wait, so this is fanmade? They could just plop the Denovo right in even after the development?

>>388908852
From what I gather, Pagodawest only worked directly on the PS4 version. Switch had some straya studio, PC presumably got Sega of Europe, Xbone who cares.

>>388908852
Yeah, the game was made pretty much entirely by fans who were active in the Sonic modding community over the years, there's no way Sega would've been able to capture the essence of the classic games as well as Mania did. The devs are pretty pissed too, but I can't find the image i'm looking for right now.

>>388908082
i have no investment in this debate either way but i can confirm point 2 in this post is not true in 100% of situations as my bud was able to play mania family shared from me before i had ever even launched it myself
maybe it happens to other people but it did not in my case

>>388905097
Dumb nigger posting denuvo shit

>>388909206
Here's Stealth:
>>388906312
>>388906232
You can look up Christian "Taxman" Whitehead's tweets. He dropped a cryptic tweet about DRM immediately after the PC delay announcement stream.

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>>388909376
Yeah, that's the one I was looking for. Here's one from the guy who runs the Sonic Twitter.

>>388909597
Aaron doesn't give a shit
He's just a PR kike

All he's doing is directing people to Sega Support so they don't complain at him
If he really cared he would talk to the devs directly seeing as he's the Brand Manger

I'd love to actually compare time attacks on PC instead of all this hacking

>>388909719
The devs didn't do shit, this was SoE.

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>>388907867
>unable to utilize

denuvo wins again

>>388890670
>>388891041
>>388891412
>>388891594
>>388892084
>literally shilling for DRM
How much are they paying you?

>>388909967
Nobody cares you fucking idiot
Aaron isn't even a dev so why the fuck reply to my post either way?

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>poorfags

>>388910083
It was a troll you idiot
It's just the same .exe as the uncracked version

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>>388910603
Because you said that the devs were the ones responsible for Denuvo when they're probably the ones most angry about it, you fucking troglodyte.

>>388910667
I'm sure "poor" is not the problem here.

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>>388889991

>>388910846
I don't care who's responsible
Fact is Aaron could have talked to the head-honchos if he wanted to

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>>388900719
Hopefully someone can create a Hyper mod. Just need to add a few more Super Emeralds...

>>388911398
You don't know that he didn't, that wouldn't be something that he'd advertise on his Twitter. Like you said, he's a PR kike. And do you honestly think that they would listen to him? This is a Japanese company we're talking about here, they value seniority above all else, and that's not something that Aaron has.

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>the Steam-page removed the "recent reviews" consensus due to how universally-negative it got

You'd think SEGA would put their apparent effort in blockading all the bad press into actually fixing the problem and removing DRM, but then I remembered this is SEGA I'm talking about.

>>388889274
kek

>>388909719
>If he really cared he would talk to the devs directly seeing as he's the Brand Manger
Not to suck his cock or anything, but how do you know that's not what he's doing? Hell, they probably told him to do that if he brought it up to anyone.

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>>388908530
>the free download button
That really doesn't narrow it down much.