Why did they ruin this game?

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I never thought the combat for the series was anything special, but I feel like this was a step in the wrong direction desu

Latest game didnt sold so they need to get their money back with mobile tier game based on their last engine while switch is hot

>>388878318
The game was ruined from the start
>story and character designs ripped right out of a seasonal LN
>linear as shit
>combat is slower than molasses
Jewtendo buying out Monolithsoft was a mistake. Enjoy seeing kiddie shit like this from them forever. Still, it's great to see people waking up to this bullshit.

>>388878318

but does it have a self-insert male protagonist and a harem of girls?

That should be the only improvement they should be looking at. Rest should be irrelevant. Oh yeah, and Japanese voices. Can't stand the english ones, its trash.

>>388878318
>>388878961
Are you guys mentally retarded? Why are you lying or shittign on things about this game that all Xenoblade games have?

>why do they make a sequel for people who liked the first game that's similar to the first game???

HOLY SHIT. Kill yourselves.

>>388878904
Fucking this.

XB2 is mobileshit through and through, just given the Xeno title for brand recognition to sucker in smashniggers. The sad part is that it's not even a real Xeno game. It's straight up a fucking haremshit shonen LN.

>>388879057
You're getting a whiny shota and his sword harem and you are going to like it. No more of that problematic experimental storytelling or actually intricate characters. Just a game for ironic weebs to gobble up.

>>388879178
>experimental storytelling or actually intricate characters
Of which XCX 2 had none.

>>388879337
>XCX 2
t. time traveler

>>388879690
You know I meant XCX, the shitty one with robots and a MMO game design.

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>Why did they ruin the third game in the sequel by having key elements from the previous entries in the series?

>>388880653
>>388879065
It's mobile-tier garbage, accept it.

>>388878318
Because Monolith Soft thinks that Japan and Amazon Reviews are the reason why XC Wii was popular. They only care about money now. They want a quick yen, and don't wan to spend time creating the best game of the system like XCX. Instead the was to shit out garbage catered to people with no taste.

>>388878318
>attacks automatic
>arts
>fighting animations like mmorpg
you literally described all the games

How does this game generate so much asshurt in the one designated shitposter that they need to post across several IPs just to vent? Are they scared it's gonna sell?

>>388881108
And all this is readily apparent with the interviews with Takahashi regarding this game.
http://www.wahmmo.com/why-xenoblade-chronicles-2-has-a-character-designed-by-tetsuya-nomura/
https://mynintendonews.com/2017/06/15/tetsuya-takahashi-shares-a-message-about-xenoblade-chronicles-2-with-the-fans/
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/06/25/xenoblade-chronicles-2s-executive-director-says-like-work-much-smaller-projects/
Xeno series is going the way of full gachashit/ironic weeb faggotry. It's over for Takahashi's artistic integrity.

>>388881332
>everyone who doesn't like my harem LN is samefagging
Whatever you say kid.

>>388881332
Because a youtube celebrity and """"""""""""fighting""""""""""""""" game turned our gnostic, freudian niche philosophy into meme about a feeling oneself, really.

>>388881108
>>388881338
Fuck it, I'll bite.
http://www.wahmmo.com/why-xenoblade-chronicles-2-has-a-character-designed-by-tetsuya-nomura/
>I never got the chance to work with Nomura back when I was still at Square and still wanted to, so I am now.
https://mynintendonews.com/2017/06/15/tetsuya-takahashi-shares-a-message-about-xenoblade-chronicles-2-with-the-fans/
>I'm making a more light-hearted story because I wanted to try making one
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/06/25/xenoblade-chronicles-2s-executive-director-says-like-work-much-smaller-projects/
>I'd like to make smaller projects when Monolith can have multiple projects going at once
Sure sounds like they gave up their artistic integrity, huh?

>>388881646
this in-turn caused them to expect that it's spritual successor would in turn follow in the footsteps of it's meme man, only to find that it was a game designed for only the intellectual of human beings causing enough asshurt to cause the developer to willingly forgo a sequel for a 2nd take at re-creating a meme game.

>>388881646
Truth. Only the most delusional of fancucks would be blind to the blatant butchering of this series that actually had dignity.

If I've never played a Zenoblade game in my life should I get this?

>>388883095
No, unless you're an nuweeb.

>>388879178
>You're getting a whiny shota
He doesn't even sound whiney. His combat adlibs make him sound confident and boisterous.

>>388883373
>I coulda beaten 'em blindfolded!
>Let's show 'em a thing or three!
>Topple 'em!
>Okay, bring it on!

Rex sounds like a fucking chad and it's great

>>388883331
I liked umaro

>>388883492
Rex haters are too busy sucking badly written anime cock

Watch. After playing Xenoblade 2, /v/ will be going on about how much of a fucking bro Rex is

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>>388878318
Just goes to show how much better the combat system in Persona 5 is.

>>388881108
>best game of the system like XCX
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Being a game-starved Wii U fanboy must have really hurt if you thought a literal single player MMO with >10% drop rates on quest items IN SINGLE PLAYER, fetch quest, retarded requirements to do Main Story quests and the weakest story and dialogues out of ALL the Xeno games was something to write home about.
>b-b-but muh open world!
Not open if you can't go somewhere because there are level 45 enemies littered all over with super aggro and you're level 15, might as well put an invisible wall there or put it behind a story mission, it's the same shit.

>>388881108
>>388880735
What makes this worse than Shulk's game?

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>>388878318
>Why did they ruin this Xenoblade game?
>Proceeds to site aspects of typical Xenoblade gameplay

>>388883749
>comparing a turn based half-assed press turn with a real time combo-based system
Do you also compare platformers and beat-em up?

>>388884029
boobs

>>388884001
Are you seriously claiming than any Xenoblade game has good combat? Unironically?
For real?

Seriously?

>>388884029
Why is a sword just a generic human slut?

The graphics look like a major downgrade from Xenoblade Chronicles X.

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Anyone got any good fan-art of Nia? She's my fave.

>>388883875
1. No Dress Up Armor
2. Recycled XC enemies now with the power of last gen shaders
3. Nomura being involved in any way
4. Arts can no longer be used instanteously at the beginning of battle, you are forced to charge them up every single time
5. Auto attacks do more damage and positioning matters but is 5x slower than even XC
6. Can't jump in the middle of combat
7. Can run in the middle of combat
8. Jump height literally 2 inches
9. ZERO MECHA
10. 10 year old virgin MC
11. No overdrive
12. No tertiary cooldown
14. No combos

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No seriously, how is it worse than Shulk's game? Can't answer? Didn't think so. Fuck off shitposter.

>>388878318
>attacks automatic
>arts
>fighting animations like mmorpg

You literally just described the last two Xenoblade games.

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>>388884150
The games probably aren't for me, but XCX was the first game I ever bought that I regretted. The combat is just so terrible and unfun to play.

If this game is supposedly a downgrade in terms of combat from XCX, then I want nothing to do with it.

>>388884150
Xenoblade Chronicles games definetely get boring by the end when you're juggling arts and have to look at the bar rather than the game, but it's still a better foundation for a decent game than a 20 years old turn based system.
Also this new one puts every skill on a button and links them to weapons, you can have up to 3 weapons for battle and switch them however you like which means 12 skills, 3 more than the last XCX and you can use them way better without having to toggle between skills with the DPAD, which surely will make it less tedious.

The real problem with XC games is that enemies are sponges, there's no hit detection so it feels like early days WoW and the world might as well be dead since it has no physics at all(understandable since it's on Nintendo hardware).
The stystem per se is good.

>>388884348
you played the game?

>>388884348
Only 1 is objectively bad. Citation needed for 5. 4 is personal taste

The rest is just you being an idiot

>>388884150
Xenoblade 2 combat looks insane.

>Auto-attacks charge Arts
>Arts charge elemental Blade Arts which have 4 levels
>Elemental Blade Arts open up an Elemental path
>Use certain elemental Blade Arts to navigate through different paths
>Elemental path blocks an enemies attack
>Enemy now becomes resistant to the last elemental you used to seal its attack demonstrated by elemental orbs that circle the enemy
>Use chain attacks to break the elemental orbs so you can do more damage

Now think of all the Blade combinations, their skill trees, and break>topple>launch>smash, and positional damage... It's insane. There's tons of strategy and customisation.

>>388884435
>implying Shulk's game is the worst
Xenoblade X would like to have a word with you

Xenoblade was never good.

Fuck off, waifufag.

>>388884547
even better we watched every livestream and commentary by the director explaining why 1 ~ 13 are not in this game but was in XCX

>>388884513
Have you not watched the gameplay videos? There is hit detection and it's fucking crunchy. Also the camera shakes when you land a blow giving it more impact

>>388884305
See >>388884672

>>388884663
Fuck you.

>>388884348
>Arts can no longer be used instanteously at the beginning of battle, you are forced to charge them up every single time
The Gamescom gameplay literally shows the Anchor Shot Art already charged at the beginning of every battle. It's obviously been upgraded.

I haven't seen any footage of this outside the tit girl reveal. From what they've shown so far is it similar to XC? If yes then I'm sold. If it's closer to XCX then it's a way harder sale and no longer 100% day one.

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>>388884150
People haven't seen good RPG combat, you can't blame them.

>>388884640
I honestly think XC2's combat system has the potential to be the best in the Xeno franchise so far. People give it flak just because the arts shown off don't start off usable or that it looks "slow". They ignore the crazy chains and combos that you could do that was shown off on stream.

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Story and characters seem to be a write off, only care about the music at this point.

>>388884893
>Shadow Hearts

I see we both share the most patrician of RPG tastes

>>388884658
That's literally not what he implied, please learn to read.

>>388884830

I'm just stating a fact

>>388884893
Fuck off millennial fag

>>388884971
They even sped up the combat going by the Gamescom footage. Rex now runs a lot faster in combat

>>388884979
At least wait until the game comes out before writing those two things off. Xeno games have always had good stories (with the exception of X) and characters.

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>>388878318
Wow its almost like a xenoblade game

>>388885120
>>388884971
stop damage controlling

If you really care about monolth soft and want to spend your money on a game with actual gameplay wait 4 years:

http://gematsu.com/2017/08/monolith-soft-hiring-ambitious-new-project-different-brand-image

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>>388884348
>11. No overdrive
Good, overdrive just made endgame too easy.

>>388884842
It's called XC2 so...

>>388884979
>Story and characters seem to be a write off

The characters seem great and have a lot of personality judging by the Gamescom footage. Their idle animations alone exude a lot of personality

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>>388885081
No you aren't, faggot.

>>388885082
Liking Xenoblade is far more "millennial".

Wouldn't surprise me if Xenoblade was your first (or only) Xeno game.

>>388884971
The fact that you can now get to any of your 12 arts with only 1 button press between them should make it easier to pull off combos without relying on the traditionally shit partner AI.
Seriously, the mapping arts to specific buttons and then in groups of 3 that switch between by another set of buttons is great. Menu nesting without being crazy. Also, the timing of Arts with the auto-attacks means you can't just sit there and smash down arts as fast as possible which is good.

Hackahashi at it again with his overrated, badly written, poorly localized JRPG snoozefests, nothing new to see here.

>>388885262
>says overdrive is too easy
>post the two most broken characters in XC

uh huh i see

>>388885239
>can't even respond to what they said
>s-stop damage controlling guyz!!
Are you 12?

>>388885239
The concept art for their new project looks gorgeous, but I will also defend XB2 unconditionally because it also look fucking great and another winner from Takahashi and Monolith Soft

I'll play anything these peeps make

>>388885239
>Liking what's being shown off and being optimistic is "damage controlling"

>>388885329

You can't prove that

>>388885386
Mate, Xeno games are the best written Jrpgs

Fuck off. Takahashi is a smart lad and he's got good taste. He's the saving grace of JRPG's.

>>388878961
>linear as shit
Because the first Xenoblade chronicles totally wasn't, right? Fucking kill yourself.

self insert fags getting upset they can't be gruff mc buffman and whaletard tumblrs aren't getting enough tales of bishie gay romance characters

>>388885443
Xenoblade Chronicles studio Monolith Soft is hiring designers, programmers, planners, and management support with experience in action game development for “an ambitious project different from the brand image of Monolith Soft.”

>action game development

This is exactly how they called XCX when it was in development, so I'm very excited. XC was always associated with muh story since the day they teased it in development. So thank fuck Takahashi finally is going back to what frankly Monolith is better at, gameplay.

>Xenoblade
It was shit from the get-go.

>>388885515
>amazing soundtrack
>great gameplay mechanics
>good difficulty spike (if you know what you're doing)
>massive worlds to explore
>a story that isn't generic shota shit
Need I go on?

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>>388885775
Fuck off, samefag.

>>388885881

Yes

>>388878318
looks fine 2 me

>>388885386
The only part of this you got right was poorly localized and that isn't unexpected in this day and age sadly.

>>388885264
Works for me.

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>>388885881
>unironically responding to the reddit spacer
Literally taking you for a ride.

>>388886024
Just reported you for trying to start a flamewar.

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RPG legend
Love this guy so much
He's why I still play video games

>this
>SMT HD
>another Monolith project
>maybe some more Squeenix since BD is a thing
I'm glad the handheld console with decent graphics is getting more and more JRPG, too bad it still doesn't have Persona, a game that would benefit ENORMOUSLY from a handheld port.

>>388884672
Meant for >>388884029

>>388886563
Speaking of which, why the fuck haven't we gotten any new footage on Octopath?
Literally nothing new since reveal
Are they gonna show something at TGS?

>>388886668
Well Xenoblade 2 got new footage so they probably felt they can't compete and scrapped it

>>388886563
Persona is garbage

>>388886668
Same reason why we haven't had any footage of any other game: it's still early in development or the devs want to hype up before release kinda like the case with botw

>>388886563
Fuck I really hope they announced BD3 next year but at least Lost Sphere is coming to the Switch.

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>>388886843
>every JRPG in the market is competing with one another
even if this was a joke, it sucked.

>>388887079
I suck a jokes sorry anon

>>388887138
clearly I also suck at typing*

>>388887251
anon, you can stop self deprecating now

>>388886878
Yes but it's popular, we need normies to buy Switches and games so companies will invest in the system

>>388887701
Normies don't play persona.

Just weebs.

60 million PS4's sold and only 1.5 million Persona copies shipped, 58.5 million fags didn't give a flying fuck aka normies

>>388885403
>Coincidentally the two more broken characters in XC are the more cool ones

wow

>>388887864
Weebs are normies now, anime is mainstream

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>>388885403
But Melia is the most broken character in Xenoblade

>>388884348

1. No confirmation and none of the trailers pre Xenoblade release showed armor customization for the main cast.

2. There's actually quite a few new ones with a few repeating ones due to likely being in the same world as the original Xenoblade / wanting some recurring enemies since this is their Final Fantasy

3. He is only involved in a few character designs, and the ones we've seen so far (the masked man and the black clothed swordsman are far removed from his over-the-top belt designs.
the beginning of battle, you are forced to charge them up every single time

4. As opposed to just burning down your opponent, now you have time to think up your options.

On top of that, you don't have to roll over the whole arts bar anymore since you can Switch blades with the press of a button, making it easier and faster to combo your arts.

5. The flow of battle is different than previous games because there's a build up to the more grand scale abilities leading up to the chain attack this time, as opposed to just merely building up the chain attack meter.

This gives the game more complexity as a result.


6. It didn't allow for any specific actions in previous games either, unnecessary for combat.

7. But you can run in the middle of combat as shown by the many times the people demoing the game ran away from enemies to de-aggro them.

8. You sound like you just want another Xenoblade X Moon Jump

9. Wait for the potential Xenoblade X sequel

10. Seems more mature than you to have a harem of women around in his party and not be phased.

11. Wait for a potential Xenoblade X sequel

12. Wait for a potential Xenoblade X sequel

14. There's a new combo system in place, watch the Gamescom stream for a solid explanation.

You can go beyond even Topple+Break now with 2 more added on top of them, I believe they are Launch and Crash or something along those lines.

>>388888014
No.

Anime games are not mainstream in thw west. Name a SINGLE anime game advertised publicly in the west like TV spots, billboards and tube station posters. Only XV but that doesn't have anime style art like tales/persona for example.

>>388888353
Your name

>>388888254
I think it'd be nice if you could branch out for Break -> Topple
Like giving the enemy Daze instead of Launch and going from there and each branch would give different bonuses

>>388888625
That'd definitely be cool.

Perhaps the next Xeno will flesh that out some more providing even more options for how to handle different enemies based on variants (size, elemental type, AoE vs single target, etc) for Launch and Daze and Topple and such.

>>388888832
I like the idea of a status effect leading into another, there's a lot that can be explored there

>>388888462
>game
>your name

>>388888353
Actually, I remember Lost Odyssey getting pretty big advertisements back in the 360 days.

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>>388888157
In all senses of the word, except for her hymen.

>>388888932
I thought you meant actual anime, not just anime games

>>388889145
Rude.

>>388888353
Pretty sure the Nurato fighting games got TV spots, DBZ games get them all the fucking time too.But you'll probably use some bullshit doublethink to not accept DBZ as an answer because it gets a free pass in the west

>>388889145
I feel like shit for laughing.

>>388888254
It's Launch and Smash IIRC

test

>>388890885
I mean I get that Poppi will probably have different attributes and shit given she has a greek letter code, but doesn't that make Tora less viable?