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I still don't get why anyone bought this game on steam, when the free mod is still available for download. It offers barely anything new to warrant the purchase.
>"improved" models
Can get that from gamebanana
>"improved" textures
i sure as fuck didn't notice
>gameplay improvements
yeah some of the combat changes are for the better i admit, but it wont warrant buying a whole game
>deathmatch
more like DEADmatch huehuehuehue
>workshop support
yeah, thanks for letting me download gamebanana models trough steam. But i can download the whole filthy frank album to play in game, fucking stoked about that.
>...
Yeah that's it, if any of you can give me some reasons it's better than the free mod, i might not refund it, but otherwise i don't really think it's worth the money.
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Why are we the ones to try and change your mind about a 20 dollar source mod?
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>>388866649
because i want you to change my mind about a 20 dollar source mod? it's not like i have any friends to consult.
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>>388866649
i mean, this board is for discussing vidya right?
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>>388866874
the dev team deserve something from their hard work. They built this mod from the ground up on the side of their regular jobs for years for free. I mean they could have just sold the mod for 20 dollars not even offer a free version but they gave two options. Offering a paid version for 20 dollars more that has the same features doesn't exactly sell too well thus the reason why the paid version has a little "Extra" .It's pretty much just support them if you wanna and you get some neat extra stuff. It is all about what you want out of the experience.
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>>388866319
Xen will be exclusive to the paid version
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>>388867120
i mean, i'm all for supporting the team, i'm still stoked about the fact they wanna remake op4 (or was that a different team?), but i'd rather give them paypal bucks or something, supporting valve is just not something i wanna do lately.
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>>388867415
if they ever release it.
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>>388867434
that is a different team, the one remaking op4 and blue shift are done by trip mine studios. I used to be a level designer for the op4 one actually. It's making okay progress still a ways off though. Yeah I'm not sure if they have a paypal thing or anything like that, I believe they were one of the first teams to work directly with valve for greenlight and all that.
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>>388866874
>it's not like i have any friends to consult
I feel you, anon.
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>>388867534
They said they'd release it in December for sure, and these fucks are terrified of giving release dates because of what happened to them in the past, so you know it's likely they're telling the truth
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>>388867594
wow that's cool. Well i might keep the game than. I just wanna know one thing, are they actual employees or just off side contractors if you get what i mean. i just hope you guys at tripmine don't change the combat too much, i still get pissed about how they change the vortigon timing in black mesa
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>>388867894
Well i wanna see how they improve the xen levels, so i'm keeping the steam version. but just this once
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>>388867920
no one gets paid for the project currently. If I recall correctly even the whole team pitched in to have it put on greenlight in the first place. I think if they do decide to sell it on steam im sure the whole team will get a percentage. From what early combat I saw when I was on the team seemed pretty close to op4. Although a coder from BM did code the vortigore I think? So who knows what other gameplay tips they may take from BM.
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>>388866319
Is this game any good for someone who has never played HL1 but loved HL2?
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>>388868269
just as i thought, i get the feeling valve just "hires" modders to acquire their ideas. Part of the reason i don't wanna support valve actually.
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>>388868468
they do. Pic related.
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>>388868468
I mean the idea for portal was taken from a student that they hired out of a local job fair in Bellvue/Seattle. They tend to hire modders into their team due to the already familiarity with their source tools. So its a good career track.The most communication with valve was they invited a bunch of modders to GDC a couple years ago and gave them steamboxes. (Again I left about a year ago so things could have changed since then.)
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>>388868423
You are the intended audience.
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>>388868053
they improved xen by turning it into the ocean instead of a weird alien world.
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>>388868423
I say play HL1, Black Mesa is good, but it wont give you the necessary context. What happened with the story is just a clusterfuck.
>HL2 retconns characters from HL1 to give you the illusion of continuity (HL1 was basically open ended, so they could have a free hand while making the sequel)
>HL2 becomes the main canon
>Black Mesa than retconns the retconned characters into it
Just please play HL1 and the expansions, you wont regret it.
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>>388868761
I thought Black Mesa was a remake, not a reboot...
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>>388868896
its a soft reboot. a seaboot.
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>>388868963
why couldn't they just make xen without the platforming? Xen was an amazing setting.
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>>388868583
That's why i will never let go of my CS:S disk. Russians are really cancerous at times, but thanks to them, CS:S is still alive after all those years.
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>>388866319
I bought it because I think people should be payed for their work, and I like the game, so it evens out.
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>>388869871
my issue is that i have to also support valve while supporting the original team.
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>People actually talking about a game
>People being civil about their arguments
What board am i on again?
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>>388869738
Yup, I still play on more than a few platforming, surfing, and obstacle course servers every week. They fill up too, full ass 64 person servers.
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>>388870476
Too bad they changed the way zombie escape works in source. I used to love that mod in 1.6. Man i really want /v/ to set up a CS:S server now, i wanna quickscope some anon's CS style.
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>>388870476
I always found it amazing that the movement gamemodes were so fun, surfing is so much fun, and the jumping mechanics, i remember spending nights learning long jumps and bhops .
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ayylmao
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>>388867072
Is it? All I see is retards trying to start political arguments.
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>>388866319
>But i can download the whole filthy frank album to play in game, fucking stoked about that.

You have to be 18+ to post on this website.
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>>388867434
>remake op4

Source engine will be 50 years old by then
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>>388871214
WHY ISN'T IT MORE GREEN

XEN SHOULD BE GREEN
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>>388871523
so do you anon, most people over the age of 18 understand the concept of an ironic statement.
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>>388871786
eh so what, most games nowadays are still using tech originally developed from the quake engine. It's just a question of slapping on more graphics shit.
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>>388867120

This. I don't give a fuck that they chose Steam as their platform and I don't think they had any choice, I followed Black Mesa Source as it was called then since the very beginning. Black Mesa is a perfect example of what some lonely nerds can do in their spare time of neglect and virginity, it's honestly amazing. I paid for it because it's a great remake and the convenience of getting news and updates without having to look for them.

Also that shotgun is the best thing ever.
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>>388871891
Green and orange.
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>>388871891

Xen has never been green...
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>>388871214
Isn't that Subnautica?

It looks like a drained Subnautica.
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>>388866319
They've worked on it long enough and provided actual, functional results already
That's more than any of them early access indie shits can say so I'm happy to pay eight bucks for a game I know I'll enjoy

and xen, duh
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>>388872379

Shotgun is fine, but they should have stuck to the original headshot formula instead of making the .357 colt literally useless for body shots. Also they made Vortigaunts way too fucking sturdy and fast.
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>>388866319
WHERE THE FUCK IS XEN?
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>>388873069
in space
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>>388866319
I haven't spent any money on it myself, but I could understand some people doing so to get rid of the bugs (pretty shitty of the devs to update the paid version but not the free one). The first time I played through, it crashed about 5 times or so and it was quite annoying.
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>>388871214
>literally an underwater map
Those Black Mesa Source guys really fucked up on Xen.
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>>388873424

Well the original Xen was mostly shit and a drag and they've said before that they are planning on reworking it so we'll see. Doesn't really matter how it looks.
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>>388873343
it's kinda funny, but the steam version is optimized worse than the free one, because of the added detail.
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>>388873594

To be fair, the only horrible segment was the aerial platforming segment after gonarch.

Nihilanth was a great fight if you cockblock the portals.
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>>388872379

>1280x1024

kys my main man
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Do people unironically think this guy did nothing wrong?
>Had the Lambda team go on perilous collection missions to Xen to get crystal samples. Many of them died doing so, as seen by the dead HEV scientists on Xen.
>Ignored the science team's warnings and standard protocols for the acceptable operating levels of the Anti-Mass Spectrometer
>Directly caused the resonance cascade which caused the world to be invaded by murderous aliens
>Indirectly caused the world to be invaded by intelligent murderous aliens who enslaved Earth
>Bargains with them and causes humanity to become enslaved in order to save everyone from his fuck up
>Acts like a condescending prick to you
>Was in contact with G-Man
"he wuz a good boy he dindu nuffin" - /v/
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>>388873594
>Doesn't really matter how it looks.
But that's the main appeal of remaking it in a new engine.
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>>388874997
if not as slaves the entire civilization would have just been wiped out so I mean he did the best he could.
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>>388874367

Old screenshot, don't be a fagoloid
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>>388866319
You would not make a good jew.
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>>388874997
G-Man was in contact with pretty much every important character and manipulating everything from behind the scenes.
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I got it for around $5 on sale and I'm a Half-Life whore. I've used it to get a handful of friends interested in the series since they were faggots who wouldn't play the originals because of the graphics. Thankfully, some play time with Black Mesa convinced most of them to give the originals a shot and the ones that did ended up loving it.
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>>388874997

Combines were bound to invade anyway.

He just choose the lesser evil.
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>>388871891
Just play the fanmade version.
>fanmade
>fanmade mod for a fanmade mod
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>>388877101
there is literally no reason to have a 1280x1024 monitor after 2008
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>>388878974
modception isn't a new concept
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>>388878974
This looks much more like Xen
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Loved how the guy user the Black Mesa VOX on his vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iu4GXUHfU0
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>>388879269
Whats the ambient at the beginning from?
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>>388880171

Idk desu.

Prolly Black Mesa too.
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>>388880692
Sounds like it, but its not in ost
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>>388880767

Who knows. Could be from some modder as well.
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>>388880171
Read the video description.
>Music:
>1) Trent Reznor & Aticuss Ross - Them and Us
It seems to be a slowed down version, though.
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>>388881328
Im retarted, couldnt find "show more" button with the new layout. Thanks.
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is the AI still anti-fun?
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>>388882268
what the hell is that supposed to mean?
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>>388879004
If you get a good one, they're virtually indestructible and useful as a backup or as an emulator screen if you're into the pixels and zero latency.
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>>388882463
every soldier has eagle vision
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>>388882559
they are pretty tough, but with good usage of cover and strong weapons they are fairly beatable
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>>388882559

They still fall for the Colt .357 peekaboo meme.
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>>388882268
That's how they were in hl1 tho, don't get what ur asking
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