"""Villains"""

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>>388853975
He was never really the badda bad guy

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>>388854112
>warn your fellow Kharakians that if they go to space the world will be destroyed
>they kill you
>they go to space
>the world is destroyed
You are now aware that you played the bad guys in Deserts of Kharak.

>>388854568
>BADDA BING BADDA BOOM, ASHES
That line never fails to put a smile on my face.

>>388853975
>Breen
>Villain
>Not victim

>>388854568
EYYY FREEMAN

>>388853975
reminder that Breen becomes a slug who want to die but the combine won't let him

>>388855731

still gets me

>>388855852
>I'M A SLUG, FREEMAN!
>SLUG BREEEEEN!

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>>388853975
Played C&C when I was a kid and wanted to become a revolutionary cultist. Childhood dreams and all that.

In reality there's nothing worth fighting or even dying for.

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>>388855852
>Combine gives human psychic powers, immortality, super intelligence, and the ability to fly
>human hates it and wants to die
Ungrateful little shits.

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>>388853975
Very few people can truly understand how not wrong pic related is.

>>388856148
>In reality there's nothing worth fighting or even dying for.
Nothing is pretty sweet

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>>388853975
>revolutionize human science as director of humanity's most important research facility
>broker peace treaty that saves humanity from extinction
>solves overpopulation, disease, starvation, war...
>humanity's long term survival is assured for billions of years
So they'll hate him...

>>388856502
It's because of the false promise that when this is all over, I'm gonna mate!

>>388856502
THE COMBINE TURNED ME INTO A GRUB I'M GRUB BREEN GORDY

>>388856170
>human
You do realize that wasn't actually Dr. Breen, right? Just his memories stored in a device, the real one is dead.

>>388856502
>>solves overpopulation
>>>humanity's long term survival is assured for billions of years

Uh... you didn't think this through.

>>388856148
>Not wanting to ascent or die in battle for eternal glory

GDI shill.

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>>388857009
t. primitive instinct driven human

>>388855731
I like how despite the fact that the Horde managed to attack Kul Tiras and wipe out it's most powerful member, the fuckers still decided to land in Durotar again and try and cause some strife. Kul Tiras isn't exactly the brightest naval nation in the ocean.

>>388856170
>wanting to be a fucking ugly slug thing

No.

>>388853975
Why did Eli, Alyx and Judith want to "stop"/kill Breen? They headlines all make it very clear that he saved humanity by bargaining and if he didn't then humanity would have been killed off. Why is the entire cast of Half-Life 2 so unlikable and retarded??

>>388857123
>overpopulation
>OVERpopulation
Just think about the meaning of that word.

>>388853975
Has anyone ever actually posted a real antagonist who didn't actually do anything wrong in these threads?

>>388857852
see >>388855264

>>388857651
Because the game clearly implies that humanity would only survive as mindless servitors, slave soldiers, and it's also somewhat implied that the sterility of mankind may lead to its extinction

>>388858068
I mean he was right, but he was also a mass murdering psycho.

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>>388856502
He knew what he was doing with the Black Mesa incident. Listening to the scientist's dialogue about "the administrator" acting funny and doing questionable shit confirms this. He knew what would happen and knew he'd become supreme leader out of it.

Also
>most important research facility
Ummm sweety, Black Mesa didn't build the Borealis or do anything besides invade the world with murderous aliens.

>>388857651
His role as a necessity had waned and was only now functioning as an extension of the Combine's control and intentions.

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>>388858243
>Nazis are trying to set the entire set the enter atmosphere on fire
>kill them
>BUT NOW YOU'RE EVIL FOR STOPPING THE NAZIS FROM KILLING EVERYONE!

>>388858357
That is totally and assuredly incorrect. They had no contact with the Combine until AFTER the events of HL1. They were only connected to Xen, which the Combine had no access to.

>>388856240
They're as wrong as you want them to be, so I agree with you; they just wanted to help.

>>388858357
>Black Mesa didn't build the Borealis or do anything besides invade the world with murderous aliens.
And yet they earn all the government fundings and private contractors, neck yourself Apoorture Faggot

>>388858605
>They had no contact with the Combine until AFTER the events of HL1
>Breen makes damn sure he steals a crystal from Xen, even at the expense of countless science team members
>Breen intentionally overloads the system despite the warnings of many respected staff members
>Breen is aware of and had some level of contact with G-Man
he wuz a good boy he dindu nuffin

>>388857651
What he did in the past was not relevant. He was the figurehead of humanity's subservience to the Combine. Without him there would no longer be any reason to acquiesce to the world Combine controlled government.

>>388858869
Are you alright? Nothing you just said implies he had contact with the Combine. He couldn't have because Black Mesa was connected to Xen and the Combine had no access to Xen. Or are you seriously implying that G-Man is the head of the Combine?

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>>388856879
Here you go

>>388859020
>Or are you seriously implying that G-Man is the head of the Combine?
Are you seriously implying that someone with direct contact with the G-Man and working against the interests of the science team is blissfully unaware of what they are doing?

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>>388856240
I'd half-understand if it were only monsters (given the past wars and Asgore's intentions) but it's implied Chara kills anything only for the fun of it.

>>388859165
That's not a "no". I'm not going to justify someone who thinks G-Man is the leader of the Combine with an actual response.

>>388858387
*entire

>>388859421
I never said G-Man lead or even had any affiliation with the Combine.

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Just wanted to shoot some god damned guns with you

>>388856879
GRUB BREEN GORDY IS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT

>>388856240
Her meta-message works but her ingame character is just an edgy bitch

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>>388853975
>Tells his science team members to go on perilous expeditions to parallel dimensions to retrieve crystal samples, many of which are killed.
>Boosts the anti-mass spectrometer 105% even though there is a chance of a resonance cascade occurring.
>Ignores the warnings of the science team and forces the experiment along.
>Directly causes the Black Mesa Incident, which floods the world with murderous aliens.
>This indirectly causes the world to be flooded with a secondary group of murderous aliens who enslave humanity.
>Nothing wrong.

>>388853975
>Was working with G-Man and almost certainly knew the resonance cascade would happen
He did EVERYTHING wrong.

>>388859618
>>Wants you to lead Kyrat
>>Fights against terrorists
>>Tells you all about your father who killed your infant sister
Then you go join rebels and kill him?

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>Wishes only to bring peace and prosperity to a planet overrun with savages, psychos, and mutants
>Fully knows he'll fail but does it anyway
>kill him because drugged up bitch tells you to

>>388861193
there's no evidence of this. he does imply that he has knowledge of the g-man, but that knowledge most likely came after the combine took over and he started working for them. you're pulling the "he knew the resonance cascade would happen" out of your ass.

>>388861193
Eli was the one working with G-Man.

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he just wanted his rightful freedom

>>388856554
>frank underwood

this is /v/ not /tv/

>>388854568
what is this from

Italian stereotype gman seems interesting

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>>388856240
I see you're a man of culture as well.

>>388857009
by that logic teleportation is not possible.
Everyone who teleported died.
They were picked apart, atom by atom.
Then their exact copy was re-created at another location, atom by atom again. Exactly the same, the memories, the experience, the scars. Perfect copy, but the original has perished.

>>388863571
He was dumb though.

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anyone with a basic understanding of geopolitics knows he did literally nothing wrong

>>388854112
Ah, a man of taste.

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>>388864007
>start a war just so you can be the hero
Sad!

>>388864184
What?

The whole point of his arc in MW2 is to stop Makarov, you know, the main antagonist of the series & guy who caused the nuke in MW1 killing tens of thousands of Shepherd's men?

>>388863401
>>388856240
What did she want again?

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>>388863397
Cinematic Mod

>>388864412
shepard TOLD him to do it, he gave him the device you have to recover in the ice snow pick section of MW2. he reverse engineered it in someway to enable him to stike the US

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>>388863397
>>388865596

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>>388853975

>>388865689
no he didn't

the only thing he was complicit in was the whole false-flagging situation at the Russian airport where he sent that CIA agent that got killed. and that wasn't even his fault directly, just an operation gone wrong. he's certainly not allied with Makarov - hence why he says to Price in one mission "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

>>388866049
>he didnt
but he did! go look at the COD wiki or something, i dont want to debate COD lore

>>388866265
>i dont want to debate COD lore
then why respond in the first place my g? not being an asshole, just curious.

>but he did!
Al-Asad was the one who launched the nuke in the Middle Eastern country in MW1. he had connections with Makarov, sure, but neither Makarov nor Shepherd launched the nuke themselves.
Besides, the whole premise of MW2 is that Shepherd's angry about all his troops dying from the nuke and wants revenge. Whether his actions were debatable, his end goal wasn't - and he certainly towards his end goal of stopping Makarov.

>>388866049
If he wanted to simply stop Makarov, why not just order Allen to shoot him during the airport OP?

>>388866830
"Tomorrow there will be no shortage of new recruits, no shortage of patriots."
Shepard was angry that the world covered the death of 30,000 marines for about a month then forgot about it. He didn't simply want to stop Makarov and get revenge, if he had he could have just told Allen to kill him at the airport. He set up Allen to link America to the massacre, which would then make everyone think the CIA hired Makarov (because Makarov is stated to be a terrorist for hire without any agenda of his own). Shepherd either gave the Russians a copy of the ACS module, or the tools to crack it, this isn't directly stated but can be easily inferred. All of this allowed Russia to launch a mainland invasion of America. Shepherd knew that America would eventually win the war, but he wanted it to come to American soil so that people would care/everyone would become a patriotic MUH REEN and he'd be a big damn hero.

>>388866898
just killing Makarov doesn't solve all the issues with Russia. it's like saying "oh, we killed Bin Laden, I guess all the Middle Eastern conflict is over now!"

also the MW series is horribly written, i just wanted to spark discussion for the sake of it

>>388867338
Makarov was entirely responsible for the nuke in MW1 though, as shown in MW3 (Making a phonecall and saying "do it" right before the nuke goes off) and was working independently of the Russian government at the time, why would Shepherd care about Russia if he just wanted revenge?

>>388855731
>Thrall makes peace with Jaina
>Thrall fucks off to do something else
>Jaina decides to let Allaince use her town as a base to attack Horde
>Horde blows up the city because that's what you do to traitorous cunts
>"wow Orcs are so evil ;-;"

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>>388864412
>A nuke goes off in bumfuckistan.
Oh i better shoot up an airport, start a war, launch a nuclear missile at the US, and cause an invasion of Europe and mainland US

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If anything kun lan was just a force of nature. There was no real baddie, just eras of power personified.

>>388854568
>caused the enslavement and near destruction of the entire human race
He's a bad guy

>>388865759
>Didn't do the Civil war quest line
How is this a good thing? You miss a lot of the game if you never play it.

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betrayed at every turn

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You would've done the same thing.

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>>388868794
>some stupid human offers you a life time supply of gabagool in exchange for a xen crystal
>later human fucks up everything by being a retard with the crystal
>some how I'M the badda bad guy
Get the fuck outta 'ere

Okay, so we know with certainty that G-man wanted the Xen to invade Earth. We also know G-man either wanted Breen dead or wanted the Citadel destroyed. How does this all add up?

Did he specifically want the Xen wiped out or was that just an unforeseen circumstance on account of Gordon traipsing around between universes? He apparently didn't care if the Combine were pushed off of Earth because that was only accomplished because the Vortigaunts freed Freeman from G-man's clutches.

>>388854568
You will fight a battle ya can't possibly win, see?

>>388863718
I don't recall Marc specifically saying they "teleported" Breen into the grub's body, especially since it happened before he was killed.

>>388871097
It was stated in "HL3" that Advisor Breen was a backup of Breen's mind loaded into an Advisor.

Between the Resonance Cascade and the 7 Hours War Breen was "charged with Human Affairs Bureau", which I suppose means everyone knows he royally fucked up and he was going to go to prison for it.

>>388853975
He sold out to space jews and throws headcrabs at anyone who bitches about it.

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>>388870536
G-man wanted all parties involved to lose their teleport tech and to be disabled in their dimensional capacity - the Combine lost Xen and Earth, while Earth lost borealis, with both sides unable to fight Him and his "employers" with the sole exception of Vorts, who took to "liberating" Gordon from G-man's grasp (in a reversal of roles where he freed them from Nihilanth).

The fight is on meta-cosmic level now, with G-man's possible ultimate goal to wipe out Vorts as well, while they finally fight back by using Gordon as their own messiah and agent against G-man.
What makes the Alyx kidnapping interesting is that Vorts "knit" her life with Gordon's, making them connected and thus possibly allowing for tracing her even if she is whisked away by dimension-hopping, setting a clear goal for HL3.
Its such a ripe field for creativity, the ideas are writing themselves... if only Valve were up for it.

>>388865759
MONGREL DOGS OF THE EMPIRE

>>388871790
Losing the Borealis wasn't part off his plan. Nothing past Half-Life 2 was part of G-man's plan.

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>>388873589
That as it may be, the destruction of Borealis and stealing Alyx are his form of damage control, following rogue actions of Vorts who seized the chance to stop G-man. G-man is nowhere to be seen in Ep1, unlike in other games and it is one of few moments where His plans are derailed and humans are acting free of His plotting.

The way I see it, even with their help, Vorts are still using Freeman in their war against the G-man - Combine are an incidental element, important but not vital to the inter-dimensional conflict.

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>>388874093
>>388871790

Freeman for free memes

>>388874093
>Vorts are at war with G-man
That isn't at hing though. The vorts were freed from the Xen and are now fighting for their own freedom alongside humanity against the Combine. They saved Gordon because Gordon is their fellow rebel and their buddy.

If you asked me, one possibility is that G-man wanted the Xen dead for some reason and killing Breen was just tying up loose ends.

>>388875658
remake > re5 > re2 > re4 > re3 > re6 >re0 > >survivor > code veronica

>>388862867
That's fine, but he labeled civilians who were just living on the planet as bandits. He also invited vault hunters to his planet, just so he could kill them, which makes him a retard.

>>388869451
Do you ever fuck her?

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>>388859089
>Gordy

>>388869132
>civil war quest line
Which quest line is the image talking about?

Why would G-man want the Vex dead?

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>>388853975