What rank is Master Chief?

>>388839243
Admiral

>>388839243
I thought he was Petty Officer

>>388839243
Master Chief Petty Officer

its an actual navy rank.

master chief, he never wanted a promotion so he can stay on the field or some shit

>>388839243
In Halo 3 he gets a post mortem promotion to Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy

>>388839421
>>388839451
So if we assume Navy rates survive into the future, he'd be an SO right? So SOMC.

>>388839421
But he isn't in the Navy.

>>388839671

He -is- in the Navy.
What the fuck anon.

>>388839451
Like the UNSC would promote a Spartan to desk duty. I don't think his wishes factor into it.
>>388839671
Yeah he is.

>>388839671
the space navy you fucking retard, ships are used in space and water

>>388839710
>>388839742

The Spartan program exists outside of the branches of military, the book explains this anons.

>>388839243
>Master Chief
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/John-117

/thread

>>388839813

And John prodominantly operates within the branch of the Navy.

Hence Mastery Chief Petty Officer John-117
Additionally there's lore reasons, that I cant' remember off-hand.

for fucks sake the series has been around for 10 years of my life span.

>>388839671

If we get to the point where we have a military presence in space, it would be modeled after the Navy.

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>>388839742
>Like the UNSC would promote a Spartan to desk duty.

Even his own team is higher rank than him

>>388839813
He belongs to NavSpecWar, which I believe is a part of ONI, which is a part of the Navy.
Checkmate, atheists.
>>388839971
>His team is higher rank
Source?

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>>388839782
>space navy

This has always puzzled me, so does the airforce just become irrelevant in sci fi where space battles are the norm?

>>388840159
Sci-fi stories always combine the Navy and Air Force together when they into spess.

>>388840159
i dont think giant spaceships will be fighting in atmosphere

>>388840159
Why would you need boats when you have spaceships?

>>388840058
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Frederic-104
>Lieutenant, Junior Grade (commissioned officer)

>>388840058
Books and shit.
Fred is a Lt but defers to John as in command in missions.

>>388840159
The Navy is already used to operating on large craft. The sort of weapon systems and sensors that you'd put on a spaceship are going to make way more sense to Navy ratings. We're also already trained in firefighting and doing so in closed (sometimes sealed) spaces. We even have more planes than the Air Force. It's not a hard decision to make.

>>388840342
>airforce
>boats

>>388839243
He's a warrant officer. This puts him above enlisted NCOs, but below Lieutenants.

>>388840670
He's a Master Chief. It's in the name. Paygrade E-9. Not an officer or a warrant.

>>388840605
Alright, I misread it, but why do you need planes when you have spaceships?

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>>388839243

master chief petty officer. highest rank one can achieve in the navy without a commission.

>>388840342
>>388840605
Hear me out here
How about
Airforce Boats that fly

>>388840739

To distract the other space ship from poking really big holes in the other sealed containers it's fighting.

And to harass the terrestrial assets it's protecting, or other ships supporting it?

>>388839971
>every time chief opens his mouth it's a joke or a one-liner
>"was that a joke? Didn't know you had it in you."

Who the fuck wrote this?

>>388840997
You can use small spaceships for that. The longsword/shortsword fighters and bombers.

>>388839243
LOW

>>388841060
In fairness, most people that hear his one-liners die horribly not long after.

>>388840881

Mark V armor is so much better than VI

>>388840881
>what is a Warrant officer
hahaha stupid fucking /v/irgins thinking they know anything, stop speaking and just go back to your rooty-tooty point-and-shooty vidya you dumb nerd

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>>388839421
>tfw all your Master Chiefs are fat assholes
I wish our leadership was a cool as John.

>>388841416
how's that doe working out for you, /k/? did you come inside that doe pussy?

>>388841416
>A warrant officer (WO) is an officer in a military organisation who is designated an officer by a warrant, as distinguished from a commissioned officer who is designated an officer by a commission, and a non-commissioned officer who is designated an officer, often by virtue of seniority.

>>388839421
So then MC is actually a kind of Marine, considering he's part of the navy?

>>388841416
Holy shit dude. My ass is in the Navy and what he said was right.

>>388841638
I always thought he was a Marine which is part of the Navy.

>>388841636
>going to wikipedia for a definition and still doesn't understand it
All enlisted are out ranked by WO's who are outranked by all commissioned officers. They're the cream of the oreo.
NCO means a senior enlisted man, but they are still outranked by even the newest, most junior WO, and even the most senior, WO-5 is still outranked by the newest, greenest 2LT or ensign.

>>388841638
No he's just part of NAVSPECWAR, which is a real thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Naval_Special_Warfare_Command
He'd be considered Navy Enlisted, with the rank of Master Chief, and the rate of Special Operator. That's as close as you can get in actual Navy.

>>388841693
Thanks seaman paintchipper, your educated input is highly appreciated!

>>388841186
or, in other circumstances, Cortana is the only one who hears

>>388840159
>Air Force
>In space
There's no air in space though, duh.

>>388841879
Yes. That doesn't contradict what I said.

HYPER
LETHAL
VECTOR

>>388842036
ah, I see why you posted what you posted now. I see you must have autism or be super new to board culture, as saying "what is XXXX" is a reference to jeopardy, a television show your mom and dad might've watched, you must be too young for it.

>>388842178
Okay but it still didn't contradict what I said.

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>>388841953
>implying I'm a paintchipper

Captain King

>>388841693
Shut up and get back to needle gunning

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>>388842219
>highest rank one can achieve in the navy without a commission.
a WO-5 (or CWO-5 if you want to be technical about it) out ranks E-9 (master chief petty officer), and no commission is required to become a WO-5. Therefore, Master Chief is not the highest rank you can achieve without a commission, and you are incorrect.

>>388839421

Explains why hes gay. The whole franchise actually.

>>388842429
Don't joke about that anon. I don't do it but they needlegun above my shop all day. It's like torture.

>>388839243
Why did they fuck his armour up in Halo 4? It was so good and now it looks like absolute ass.

>>388842461
You know what he meant.

>>388840159
The air force is just an uppity branch of the army. As >>388840589 says, the navy holds far more parallels in operations than the chair force.

I served a stint in the United States Marines. A master chief petty officer is the highest enlisted rank you can achieve without a commission. Warrant officers are a little weird because they are technically officers but they aren't. It's like an enlisted officer of that makes sense. And even though a green Leutenant may have the rank, you will hardly ever find a senior enlisted deferring to them unless the chain of command is around.

>>388842461
US military ranks are a fucking joke

There are so many

MC is a Naval rank. I forgot to include that in my previous post.

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>>388841879
Nice textbook definitions of ranks. When Anon says a Master Chief is the highest non-commissioned rank, he's clearly not bothering to include Warrant Officers because it's not that important of a distinction and it goes without saying.

Pic related, you.

>>388842732
So everyone can feel special

>>388842732
What always threw me off was with the army ranks. Our higher enlisted had an extra rocker (lower stripe)

>>388839243
He is actually Admiral rank but he doesn't like being off the field so he prefers to stay a Master Chief Petty Officer.

>>388839971
Is there some rule that says making him an officer would make him unable to take part in combat?
I know in the real world we don't throw generals at insurgents but they also aren't super soldiers wearing a tank.

Wouldn't it make more sense to give spartans a new rank to allow them more operational freedom in anycase?

>>388842659
Can confirm. When a Warrant Officer actually shows up (they're rare) everyone listens to them because you generally need to be a technical expert in your field to get Warrant. Even our O6s shut-up.

>>388842837
Rank still matters, but the trick with senior enlisted and officers is that they end up managing the people below them, whereas the people below them are the ones doing the work. They're more dialed-in to what's going on. So even if it's some E5, if you know he's smart, you listen to what he has to say.

>>388842776
That's the bit that throws me off. I'm familiar with Army ranks, and the only ranks there with "Chief" is WOs. Considering Master Chief is basically a combat specialist that's not really a part of any chain of command, I assumed that's what he was.

>>388839243
Master

>>388843000
Not really.
Seing as literally everyone in Noble team (exception Jorge) was an Officer. Same with the crew that chases you in Halo 5, They were all Officers too

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>>388842549
No, he's wrong, and if you told a CWO-5 that a MCPO out ranks him he'd slap you, which is probably what your parents should've done a little more.
>>388842836
>textbook definition
it's reality? LMAO are you 12? And it's a pretty big distinction between a master chief and a WO, one gets a salute and a "sir" and the other does not. one gets a bar and the other gets an anchor, its really a big difference and you're frankly incorrect.

he's a master chief petty officer but his decisions hold a lot of sway because he's a legendary spartan and he can get away with pretty much anything

>>388843209
Warrant Officers are so damn rare that nobody even bothers including them in the rankings, because it goes without saying that they occupy the weird spot between enlisted and commissioned. Why are you so bothered about this small technical detail? Obviously it's because you're le epic troll, but seriously, this is such a weird thing to be bothered about.

Once I knew MC was a ginger, I dropped the series. Just couldnt take it seriously anymore.

>>388843210
This, just like Samus with her legendary bounty hunter status.

>>388843519
Except he's not so why are you retarded?

>>388843518
I'm not bothered by people forgetting it I'm bothered by dumb twats spouting stupid shit that's incorrect. I like your arguing technique too.
>say something dumb
>get called out
>hurr im not wrong
>get proven wrong
>why do you even care? xD lmao
/v/ has gone downhilll

>>388841060
Cortana is the only one who ever hears him say them

>>388843702
stop focusing on the exception
he's saying that your fixation is irrelevant

>>388843519
He has brown hair, blue eyes, and only a little freckles on his face, what the hell are you talking about?

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>>388843813
Yes lets just continue to have casual, baseline understanding of the world around us and not pursue more accurate and precise knowledge of the things we talk about, that sounds intelligent! And then let's attack anyone who has better knowledge on a topic we are discussing than us!

LMAO, another thing - why are these posters so steadfast on defending themselves on an anonymous board when wrong? What egos! You lose nothing by admitting that you are wrong, I don't know you or anything about you, you literally lose nothing. Why can't you just accept that you are inexperienced and don't know about the world? Is your ego that fragile?

>>388843702
>State something as fact
>"Ackshually that's wrong! You forgot about *minor exception*, you retard."
>No, that just wasn't included because it's a minor detail that goes without saying, stop being pedantic
>"Fucking /v/"
Are you some sort of Warrant with a huge inferiority complex?

>>388844062
>"Let's boil everything down to the most minute technical details when making general statements, because being a pedant is a the same as being intelligent"
>That second half of the post
Good to know you're just trolling I guess.

>>388844218
>Carbon has the highest atomic number of all the elements
>um, what about Uranium?
>ugh that's just a minor exception that goes without saying you're being pedantic
hahahaha stay in school /v/irgins!

>>388844387
>uranium
>minor exception
Just use a food analogy next time if you're going to be retarded anyway

>>388844218
>state something wrong as fact
fixed it for you.
>>388844385
Don't speak on a topic like an authority if you don't actually know what you're talking about, that's like intelligence 101

>>388844387
>Carbon
>Frequently found in food
>Carbon analogy
>Food analogy
Never change /v/

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>>388843702
>>388844062

>being this booty bothered over a technicality

autism is strong with this one.

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Where my Navy niggas at?

>>388844536
So when physics teachers lecture about Newtonian mechanics, they don't know what they're talking about because Newtonian mechanics don't include relatively, therefore making the material incorrect. According to your logic anyway.

Good to know.

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>>388841484
>I wish our leadership was a bunch of autistic killers

>>388844737
Future Nuke here. Hope the 7th fleet gets its shit straightened out, I wanted to do a tour in Japan.

Took me 15 years to realize how funny the name master chief is

>>388844387
>>388844536
>Yeah when you melt metal in your hand it is extremely painful
>Hahaha you forgot to mention Gallium the one exception to the rule when you're talking generally hahaha fucking retard!

Calm down sperg

>>388844848
That'd probably be better than what we have now.

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>>388844856
>Future Nuke
I don't think I could do it.

so why does he always answer to a sergeant then?

>>388840280
Maybe not but why does that delegate their duties to the naval arm then?

If anything you'd think NASA would gain a military arm for post-atmospheric conflicts and NASA is an offshoot of the air force anyway.

>>388845362
I'm going the officer route, if that makes any difference. And I've been a math and science buff for most of my life. I figure if I don't like it after 5 years, I can resign and get a good job in the civilian field, since ex-nuke is a pretty good credential.

Judging by my college courses though, I'm a glutton for punishment, so this should be the next logical step.

>>388845510
Realistically space warfare would probably redefine military structure in more ways than adding duties to existing branches/organizations. Working railguns will probably be the counter to carrier groups, and orbital warfare will only exacerbate it.

>>388844728
>military welfare queen cuck
>autistic
wow shocking, made me think

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>>388845915
If that's the case then go for it. I only joined the Navy to be an IT.

>>388842113
7 goddamn fucking years and people are still misquoting that line.

>>388844756
>not teaching kids a baseline understanding of physics so they can understand the more complicated ideas later on
Now who is being autistic

>>388846767
But he's not wrong, Chief is considered a biological weapon and can slaughter an empire single handily.

>>388847315
That was kind of the point of the post Anon.

>>388841060
This is what pisses me off about the faggots that say "343 humanized MC." MC was already human, he just didn't talk much. It's like saying John McClane isn't human. He is in the early movies, he just is very quippy like an old action movie hero. It's what made him so likeable, contrasted with the HZD and Uncharted shits that we have today which won't shut the fuck up.

>>388844737
If I'm not in some kind of training or something by my next birthday I'm either going Navy or Coast Guard. I was in SeaCad so I'll at least start at a higher rank than most. I'm fucking sick of working at a bank.

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>>388848569
What was so bad about the bank? Monotony?

>>388848838
I work in fraud prevention and as a result talk to nothing but blacks, poos, and chink students that are at Berkeley all day. It's ruining my view of people.

>>388841416
>retard wo1 thinks he's a light saber already
why is there not a pot of coffee ready?

>>388849096
Makes sense. Hopefully, the Navy doesn't do that. My shop used to have lots of petty and lazy people. It was terrible.

>>388841775
Separate branches joined at the hip. It stems from back during the age of exploration when ships would hire mercenaries to board other ships for combat or to provide added security on expeditions.

>>388843519
>>388843519
>>388843694
>>388843917
His hair is variously described as brown or ginger, depends on the exact book

I love xbox threads, so comfy and friendly.

>>388842582

>tfw unmanned drones are going to become the norm in the future
>there won't be a real tactical reason to use manned airplanes anymore

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>navy rank

I knew master chief took it deep in the ass like a little sailor faggot. No wonder all you fags love his games.

I'm more curious why he doesn't have a commission. He was basically made for war. Politics?

>>388850410
>Pic
Funny Doom is basically the same thing as the right but with color coded doors.

>>388850038
Don't worry that's a LONG way off.
Drone mechanic here.

>>388850525
>never played Doom

>>388850525
Don't forget "secrets" that basically involve just clicking on every wall you find.

>>388849995
So basically like Samus, his appearance is never consistent.