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Let's get real here, ''''Super''''' Savage is going to get cleared on day 1 by the best groups and on week 2 by the midcores.

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>>388833657

And everyone will exaggerate how easy it is if the best players in the world clear so fast as usual.

>some literal turboautists cleared it wtf ruined
Armchair raiders, not even once.

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>>388833373
>So do not complain if it's too difficult for you.
Is Yoshi giving up? Have poop socking americans and passive aggressive japs pushed him over the edge?

>>388834175
They gotta have that special snowflake privilege. The more people clear it, the less special they feel and thus, it's deemed too easy.

Anything else from Famitsu

>decide to check patch notes
>PvP changes
>MNK nerf
>SAM buff
Is there a particular reason people are supposed to hate MNK and switch to SAM? Because I get that distinct impression every time MNK gets a nerf in some form or other.

>>388835773
SAM got nerfed last time and was pretty irrelevant in PvP. The BRD and MCH buffs are more questionable.

>>388835984
Maybe to compensate for DPS dealt to them? Still, SAM nerfs dont mean much when they have that absurd counter move anyway. MNK nerfs on the other hand cripple the job even more than it already is.

It's easily the most useless in PvP. Can't buff party members with Brotherhood even though DRG keeps Battle Litany. No way to escape melee range the way DRG and RDM can either. Earth Tackle doesn't exist so no knockback to get away. It's pretty much constant suicide because once you get a stun in, you're just done.

>>388836668
That's stupid. They're in the backline. What's even dealing damage to them?
Yeah surely that counter move has been killing people every time a SAM pops it.

>looking for "challenge" in MMORPG

the only difficulty in MMOs is coordinating with other braindead players.

>>388833657

>Is Yoshi giving up? Have poop socking americans and passive aggressive japs pushed him over the edge?

You should have seen Gordias and Midas. People say they want hard raids but what they really mean is "please suck my dick."

>>388836668
I thought mnk was suppose to be the sustain dps while sam is the burst dps?

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AST or SCH?

>>388837251
Only thing hard was A3S and A8S. Everything else people still could get through fine and in A3S case it was bullshit sever ticks.

>>388837005
true. and it's incredibly frustrating when you're stuck until you come across exactly 7 other human beings worth a shit, because just one weak link will ruin everything for you. that shit is straight up luck at this point
and once you get past that it's nothing but an unchanging dance. there are already superior genres out there for this, they're called shmups and rhythm games. 100% personal skill and actually challenging

>>388836936
>What's even dealing damage to them?
I don't play BRD or MCH (or any ranged for that matter) but I can only guess other ranged or gap closing jobs. Tackle, Jump, and the RDM skill I forget the name of can get in close instantly. Then there's Unmend for DRK.

>>388837253
>coordination in PvP

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>>388833373
FFXIV has come a long way, just look at the alpha footage of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EEev0q21Z4

then compare it to now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Y1-8mkPrU

>>388833373
it's going to be one fight for now not a whole tier and probably have no reason to weekly clear it what are you even talking about

>>388837609
Other ranged jobs are in THEIR OWN backline, so they would be completely out of range.
Gap closing jobs going after ranged is a suicide mission. They will Limp you and walk away, that's assuming you aren't already dead within 3 seconds

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NOOOO You were supposed to unsub!

>>388837616
I really wish they could have kept the aesthetics of 1.0. Everything in ARR and beyond is bland.

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>release horribly broken fight that requires ilvl 360 to beat the DPS checks but 0.1% autist freaks somehow clear it after 3 months at ilvl 340 because the boss bugged out and gave them a 10 sec extra window
>"waah don't complain if our fight is too hard!!!"
Yoshit-p and his battle team that Q&A test fights with godmode enabled can go suck my big fat Healer DPS dick.

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We're going to here nothing but complaining when this fight releases because no one will be able to beat it and that'll just piss people off.

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>>388837616
this is the real alpha

>>388837935
I did, yoshi. Fuck your weekly lottery rolls. Fuck minmaxing. Fuck playing with pugs. Fuck playing in a static too
You better give me my catchup gear when I come back and make shinny ex fun

>>388838005
what aesthetics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW5DnpidMiY

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>>388837391

>>388837502
>bullshit sever ticks
Can you explain this please? I got dragged along into Savage (A10 I think?) and the leader said to sync with the server tick.

All of my questions were practically ignored and I ended up leaving because "Guys I have no idea what I'm doing I was just invited along" wasn't clear enough.

>>388838080
People will ALWAYS COMPLAIN about something. Its better to just ignore them and try to enjoy the game.

>>388837391
AST and it's not even close

AST does everything Scholar does either better or nearly as good - aswell as being an actual healer, plus cards which are busted

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>>388837764
>They will Limp you and walk away
>Jump in
>Jump out
>poke from afar and laugh

>>388811653
Nah. It'll probably take like 2-3 days for hardcore groups, maybe a little longer. I dunno if you guys did Second Coil Savage, but that shit was absolutely not easy. It was pretty much tuned that you'd only barely make it through hps/dps checks even with near-perfect play; at least if you did it at i110, and that was when classes were piss easy. If we have the mechanical difficulty of Second Coil Savage along with difficulty of the classes we have now you are going to be hearing a lot of people bitching. I really hope SE ignores them.

>>388834756
Or maybe just the better you get at a game the more difficult it needs to be to satisfy you? Don't get this mentality that people only enjoy hard content because they want bragging rights.

>>388837391
AST and SCH is the best pairing

>DPS always complain about long queues
>Log on to do my roulettes and /shout in Limsa/Rhalgr's that if someone wants a queue boost to get EX done /tell me
>No responses

;_:

Also who is ready for people in these threads lying about clearing Super Savage and how easy it is and you're a shitter if you haven't?

>>388837502

A4S was far harder than A3S. A3S was cleared in a week, A4S took THREE more weeks after that.

You have no idea what you're talking about and are just parroting stuff you heard from other people who also have no idea what they're talking about. You obviously never cleared a hard fight in this game.

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>parsers have ads on them

Is queuing for omega normal okay this late into the week?

>>388833657

Raids in this game used to take weeks before anyone cleared them you know. The designers know what they're doing, Super Savage won't be cleared in a day.

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>・4.xで登場する極蛮神は三闘神のようなシリーズものではあるが、トリッキーなことをやるつもり
While Primals appearing in 4.x will be something like a series Warring Triad, where we see a series of primals appeared under the same story arc, they plan to put in tricky (elements) in it. (Tricky?)

>>388838327
They're probably wary thanks to all the other bile that sell runs
I've seen "come with me for free queues" parties in PF that nobody joins. It's bizarre
Also dps queues aren't that long anymore. 10-15 minutes for roulette and 5-15 for manual queues

>>388838136
For one thing, 1.0 had better cut scenes than in ARR. The world felt more alive than in ARR since I couldn't just run away from every monster.(I shouldn't be able to go into a beastman stronghold and get out fine), the actions and animation had more weight, there were actually butts and tail armor,

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>>388838424
>2 days
>late into the week

>>388838368
A4S is not mechanically harder than A3S.

> Demi Bahamut size changes will be in 4.1
STOP TOUCHING MY SUMMONER GODDAMNIT

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I'm in love with Lyse!

>>388838497
>if queues are long i just change to ALC and make raid potions
>if queues are short i just check the markets for pets/glamours/raid consumes
people who bitch about long queues are doing it wrong

>>388838368
The metric for how long it took the fights to be cleared as a indicator of actual difficulty doesn't really work for Gordias due to just the sheer amount of gear gating there was. It didn't take 3 weeks because they were having a hard time performing well enough, it took 3 weeks because it was physically impossible to do the numbers the fights required.

>>388838309
First quote was meant to go to >>388833657
Dunno how that happened.

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>>388838043
They hopefully learned from Gordias to not do that.
They even said it'll be tuned for i340.

>inb4 they take 99th percentile numbers and put that as DPS check

>>388838481
So the primals we're seeing this time will actually be part of the MSQ instead of being some bullshit sidestory like with the Warring Triad?

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>>388838607
shit taste pham

>>388833373
>Beyond Savage
>BS
heh

>>388838501
>For one thing, 1.0 had better cut scenes than in ARR.
This is because a disproportinate amount of the money for 1.0 went into the cutscene. I'm alright with cutscenes being mostly prebaked animations and nodding if it means more effort is spent on the rest of the game, and providing we still get something impressive every now and then during really important story events.

The rest I agree with.

>>388838309
>people only enjoy hard content because they want bragging rights.
Except, it is a mentality people have. I understand the former, and Royal Menagerie doesn't feel as good once you clear it and understand it. But there are still ways to use that level of presentation to make something new and interesting.

Which is what I, personally, see as a major fault of XIV. Once you experience it, learn it, it's just no good anymore. It doesn't have to be harder, it just has to be more interesting than the last. And trying to work with old and busted mechanics to make something new each time I can imagine being a major challenge.

>>388833373
You know not a lot of people have even cleared OS3 right? XIVs Raids require much more coordination than WoW raids.

>>388838501
Cutscenes are cutscenes. Not aesthetics. You could see for yourself how dark everything was, how bad the particle effects were, how bad the shadows were and how night looked like fucking Bluefog everywhere for some reason.
Probably the only positive thing about its aesthetics was that it didn't have too many overdesigned spiky shit armor like HW and SB.
Butts are nice but caring about it in XIV where you SHOULD be wearing gear there is a /xivg/ Balmungoloid concern.

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>>388838607
I'm in love with this thing

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>The plan to create the new large-scale PvP content planned for Patch 4.1, that separates players into two opposing sides, came about because we felt that we had solidified a strong ruleset for Frontline and therefore wanted to create a completely separate PvP experience.
Will it be fun?

https://mogtalk.org/2017/08/30/mogtalk-interviews-yoshida-2-pvp/

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>>388838918

>>388838327
>PF
>lone tank offering queues
>join and see why
>they actually started off with a copy and paste tier sales pitch about why you should pay them to tank

>>388838954
the better question is
will it give better exp than fucklines?

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>>>388838918
That's a nice pic, may I save it for my collection anon?

>>388838869
But why can't we have both? I agree that difficulty alone isn't enough to carry a fight to greatness--just look at how people reacted to Gordias I think it's pretty shit, too. Second Coil Savage and Midas on the other hand are some of the most fun I've had in this game. A6S, T9S, and T7S are ridiculously interesting and difficult fights and I love them for it. T7S made all my friends hate each other, though.

>>388838883
>8-man requiring more coordination than 20-man
You probably have never done mythic, WoW mythic is probably even more elaborate than savage, the base class gameplay is simply easier.

What should I do at 70 while queue'd for stuff other than grinding DoH/DoL?

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Why does Yoshida only play meme games?

>>388838663

It wasn't a hard gear gate, those chinese groups cleared it week 1. Of course they had been practicing the fights for months, but they had week 1 gear.

Can't forget gordias and midas they just needed more gear to clear, literally could not meet the dps check. So even if this super savage is tuned for 340 gear because world first are the best they will beat all dps checks and it'll be cleared day 1.

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>>388838918
Get in line.

>>388839358
Researching skinner-boxes so he can squeeze more money out of this pathetic community.

>>388838954
>official competitive sport

Why? FFXIV isn't Blade and Soul. FFXIV wasn't built for the purpose of pvp. It's a damn pve mmo.

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>>388839160

>>388839497
Is there a way for them to build a better version of XIV specifically for PVP or something?

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The Warrior of Light fanclub's president is ALISAIE

>>388839210
No matter what the change is, someone will cry. There are people who actually considered Neo Exdeath gated/elitist content because it was something new and Omega story related locked behind a difficulty wall they couldn't clear.

I think both is good. It gives people an incentive to get better and experience something new if they take the time to git gud. But literal children and casuals will scream louder.

>tuned for gear
>you literally need to have been farming and getting lucky drops to qualify
Good fucking job Yoshi
How about a fight that's just really fucking hard and not gear reliant
I'm playing the wrong genre

>>388833373
beyond savage will be the static killer

>>388839687
>I'm playing the wrong genre
Took your time figuring that one out. Gear level makes a huge impact on fight difficulty since it directly correlates with how well you have to perform.

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>>388839642

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>>388839601
>XIV specifically for PVP or something
Then it would have to be an entirely different game. XIV as a whole is about the WoL and the world itself. PvP is purely side content. You'd need something akin to Aion's """story""" for that kind of effort from the ground up to be a fully fledged product. You're soldier #9725, go run out in the fields and kill other players and progress the poorly tossed together plot. Or just play an online arena game like people normally do.

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>>388839943
I'd autosage all over her.

>>388839416
Oh yeah I forgot about that. Point taken, my dude.

>>388839675
Yeah, we've gone from getting a whole raid tier to getting like 3 good fights since normal mode bleeds into the first two fights of Savage now. Feels bad to be so outnumbered.

>>388839687
Kind of sucks but it makes sense in the long term.

I hit 51 on my BTN but i cant do collectibles because i have shit tier 400 GP - i have no right side at all.

Do i buy the level 40 or so vendor accessories from Ishgard or is there a better tier at 52? I can grind out leves until 52 if that's the case. If anyone knows the name of the accessories i need for gathering at that level i'd appreciate it

Also for levelling post 50 in general i should just grind leves and then hit up my collectibles as the rare nodes spawn right?

>>388841196
http://www.ffxivguild.com/ff14-Botany-Botanist-leveling-guide-a-realm-reborn/4/