Sonic Mania Half-Chub

>Green Hill is the first zone

the fact that I can't afford it, probably

Blue Spheres.
Pointless trial & error treadmill for completionists.

>>388827432
ps4 leaderboards

>>388827547
Well to be fair that was all chaos emerald challenges

Tails and Knuckles don't have their own unique stages like in S & K, so playing with other characters isn't really that interesting

>>388827547
>trial and error
T. New to sonic or brainlet

>>388827746
You need to know the layout of the stage in advance to not lock yourself out or miss any rings.

>>388827432

It came out on PC

Hydrocity is boring
Stage transisitions give up

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>>388827695
>Knuckles has an entire act exclusive to him along with some exclusive areas such as Hydrocity and his own Lava Reef Act 2 boss fight

??????????

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Why the fuck does everyone complain about this specific boss?
>Jump in the oil and get 4 quick hits when it first appears
>Wait for the octopus to rise again and finish it
Wow so fucking hard. Metal Sonic was a shit boss yet everyone I see complains about this instead.

>>388827868
To be fair, you don't need the gold medals to get all the unlocks, it's just bragging rights.

>>388827695
Tails didn't have unique paths in 3&K. Only a few nooks he could fly to for items. Which could be reached in ST multiplayer

>>388827987
Instant kill move. No chance to get your rings after you get hit.
Basically, you can't just blindly wail on it and grab your single ring every time you get hit. Literally Dark Souls of platformers there.
>>388827987
Gold medals are needed for the final trophy.
As I said, it's there to torment completionists.

>>388827432
>Not Mirage Saloon's miniboss

>>388827432
denuvo

>>388828261
>Instant kill move
I've fought it a bunch and it never even had a chance to do said move. If you do what I said, it'll never have time to even hit you.

>>388827432
He's easy when you know what to do. At the very start stand above the platform he pulls down and get two-three free hits when he comes up. Hide under the platform jumping to avoid drowning in oil while the laser shoots. Then stand near the collapsing platform and jump/hit a few times are you are done. Actually a lot shorter than you expect.

Is this game fun if I never played them as a kid? Or is it just for nostalgiafags

>Lots of cool nostalgic stages

>Include Oil Ocean for some reason.

>>388827432
The fact that there isn't a crack yet and that Sega owns the Sonic license

>>388828445
It's fun even without playing the older games but there are a lot of references that will fly completely over your head if you haven't played them.

I also can't get past Oil Ocean Zone. I struggle with the first level, even though it's kind of easy. I usually get to OOZ Act 2 with 2 lives left.

Then I lose a life getting to the Act 2 boss, then I lose really easy on the boss.

I really struggled with Hydrocity but Oil Ocean is a lot worse

>>388827432
final boss and super boss

>>388828620
Yeah it's not my favorite, I'm there with tails atm so the precision platforming isn't as big of a deal, but the boss still kicks my ass

>>388828469
>Lots of cool nostalgic stages
>Oil Ocean is there best returning stage for some reason

>>388828445
I'd say it's better for people not familiar with the classics since every level will be new instead of only 4.

All in all I was pretty disappointed with the game. Fun for sure, but only half the levels (half of THOSE being the remake levels) had a WOW factor.

A lot of the bosses were frustrating to figure out how to attack, and even still I don't know how to fight the Heavy Rider properly, but definitely not difficult enough for me to really say this is bad. Searching for rings to get Chaos Emeralds felt like a chore when, as a Sonic game, I like prioritize speed over exploration on my first playthrough.

Titanic Monarch Zone might be one of the worst stages I've ever played in a Sonic game.

>>388827432
>What's the worst thing about sonic mania?
Denuvo

>>388828969
What awful taste.

>>388828969
>I don't know how to fight the Heavy Rider properly
>Jump on its head while avoiding the flail
WOW SO HARD

PROTIP: Start the fight between the two tentacles. You can get like 4 hits on him the moment he appears.

>>388828969
Well i mean that's exactly how it was in the genesis games, you had to find the giant rings to get a chance at getting a chaos emerald

>>388828261
It has an instant kill move? I just kicked its ass.

>>388829035
that's pc exclusive

>>388827475
Underrated

>>388827432
Just constantly jump on the oil and dont stand on the platforms

>>388829205
No, that's how it was in S3&K.

>>388829160
Just was getting timings wrong as I went about it, trying to figure out if there were more patterns and attacks I could attack him on

>>388827695
tails never had unique paths, and knuckles has more unique paths in this than in sonic and knuckles. most stages are completely different.

>>388827432
lel just a use a shield, makes you immune to the bullets

>>388829249
If you stand on a platform that gets pulled under you instantly die.

>>388827432
You mean the best boss in the game

>>388829748
Seriously? There's no way you could get hit by that more than once, since it's so telegraphed
He'd be a lot harder if he was only hittable on the top half, so you can't just stay in the oil and hit him there

This game should have been longer and with more original zones.
Also i really hate chemical plant and flying battery. it is a pain to build speed on those stages

>>388829380

>No, that's how it was in S3&K

Almost every Sonic game has the emeralds in hard to reach places. Getting the emeralds precludes cruising through the stage at max speed.

>>388830042
Sonic 1 was collecting 50 rings and jumping in the ring at the end of the level.

Sonic 2 was jumping into checkpoints with 20 rings, like the blue spheres game in Mania.

>>388830132
It's 50 rings in Sonic 2 as well.

>>388827432
It feels unfinished and only the new zones have the best things.
Basically Iizuka ruined the whole project yet again with his stupid idea of rehashing old zones

>>388830192
Yeah, like a typical retard I made my post before checking. Apparently it was also a way to get special stages in 3&K in addition to finding hidden rings.

>>388830241
Yeah, although these special stages in 3&K are just for rings, shields and extra lives.

>>388827432
Titanic Monarch's music
It's generic movie-esque shit that doesn't belong in a sonic game.
The biggest amateur-hour moment of the game.

>>388827432
Can someone explain to me why people cry about this boss? It's easy as shit.

>Does the thing in sonic 1 where if one pixel get's caught in the wrong place you die instantly

>Stardust Speedway Act 2 is cool as fuck
>3/4 of the stage is metal sonic

Was really disappointed at that and Hydrocity.

>>388829371
What? Standing on the platforms is the easy part.
It's just the two guns shooting the yellow dots while you attack thats difficult.

>>388830493
It's one of the only bosses where when you get it you won't get any rings 99% of the time. Not to mention it being buggy

>>388830840
>where when you get it you won't get any rings 99% of the time
What the fuck are you doing nigger? I've never had this problem.
>Not to mention it being buggy
How so?

>>388830241

Those are Bonus stages. Finding the Special stage rings is mandatory. The actual difference is that 3&K's ones are more on the way in the sense that Mania's ones need you to turn around against flow more to find them.

Last boss. Worst one.

Bosses were shit, remake zones were fairly dull in general.
But the biggest mistake was forcing in so many nostalgia zones when the new zones were the best in the game.

>>388827432
Hydrocity 2, most likely. It feels like it isn't too different from the original, even compared to the act 1 stages

2 weeks to implement denuvo while blaming Stealth for a buggy product that needed the two weeks to fix

>LOL SONIC SUX IT'S JUST HOLD RIGHT TO WIN
>Oh my GOD Why is Mania So Hard!?!?
C'est la /v/

>>388827432
torrent when?

>>388831265
Anyone else notice how some Act 1's feel like a seamless combination of the original games stages? I appreciate Chemical Plants for example.

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>>388831449

>>388831139
>new zones were the best in the game
Mirage Saloon Act 1 disagrees

>>388831502
Yeah. I honestly love the remixed levels because of how they play on your expectations.

>>388831715
Not if you play as the best character.

>>388827432
The bugs. I don't encounter them often, but they really pull you out of the experience when they do casually happen.

>>388831449
>"C'est la vé " ?

>>388831994
it's "vie"

>>388828969
I got crushed a lot and died once to about half the bosses, but how did you not have like 20 lives

sonic's sprite

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>>388828969
>Titanic Monarch Zone might be one of the worst stages I've ever played in a Sonic game.

>t. person who couldn't beat those special stages

>>388834786
He may be a shitter, but he's not wrong in this instance. Titanic Monarch is ass.

>>388834858
Only the boss ruined it. Everything else was not a problem.

>>388835189
Everything else about it was boring and bland.

>>388834858

Show me that you can use the orbs correctly then ill take your opinion seriously.. Otherwise youre just a casual shitter

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>>388835602
>hold left/right to adjust the orbit
>press jump when you're moving in the direction you want to launch yourself
A fucking 10-year-old should be able to figure this shit out in mere minutes.

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>>388834858
He is a shitter and so are you pleb.

>>388834858
>One of the few difficult levels that actually work with how sonic plays instead of against it
>Bad

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>>388835602
That's legit the easiest part of this level

>>388829258
Still the worst thing about Sonic Mania, especially since it didn't need to be there.

>>388827432
As someone who whined about this boss, I understand it is all about getting gud, so git gud.

>>388835602
Nigger, I could finish one of those orb bonus stages in S3&K with my eyes closed. The level being shit has nothing to do with difficulty: it's easy, just boring as fuck.

>>388835602
I mastered the orbs in Sonic 3 and Knuckles bonus stages. Pick a direction you want to go and just jump when you are in the middle of the orb.

>>388830840
>It's one of the only bosses where when you get it you won't get any rings 99% of the time
What does this actually mean?

>>388827432

>can't cancel out of a high rolling jump and begin gliding as Knuckles
>cant punch anything as Knuckles in this modern 2017 Sonic game
>shields don't deflect anything in this modern 2017 Sonic game as it did in the 1994 Sonic game
>no added attributes to characters (collect X rings to increase Y ability, ect)
>2017 modern Sonic game starts off in a level created in 1991 instead bringing in something new as the past 2D Sonic games did

>>388839257
>shields don't deflect anything
You're lying out of your ass, and your other complaints don't even make sense.

>>388838636
When you get hit* you won't get any of your rings back 99% of the time I think is what anon is saying

>>388839257
>Shields don't deflect
...They do though
>starts off in Green Hill Zone
That's for the nostalgia factor, even if it's over done.

>>388827514
GET A JOB LOL

>>388839257
>>no added attributes to characters (collect X rings to increase Y ability, ect)
why the fuck would you even want this in a sonic game

>>388839720
it's current year. the game needs a level up and perk system

>>388839257
>can't cancel out of a high rolling jump and begin gliding as Knuckles
Because it's not a jump. Worked this way in S3&K too.
>cant punch anything as Knuckles in this modern 2017 Sonic game
Same as S3&K
>shields don't deflect anything in this modern 2017 Sonic game as it did in the 1994 Sonic game
Lies. Elemental shields deflect energy projectiles.
>no added attributes to characters (collect X rings to increase Y ability, ect)
That ruins the simplicity of the game.
>2017 modern Sonic game starts off in a level created in 1991 instead bringing in something new as the past 2D Sonic games did
Emerald Hill, Palmtree Panic, Turquoise Hill, Green Grove, Neo Green Hill, Leaf Forest, Sunset Hill, Leaf Storm and Splash Hill are all just Green Hill but with different names.

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>The reversed eggmobile fight in Hydrocity

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>>388827547
If you suck at it yeah. The only special stages in classic sonic that were trial and error were the first two games

>>388827432
Oil ocean fucking sucks.

>>388827432
I hate the green samurai dick

Also spider boss

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>>388839846
>It's current year and game doesn't have X
I know you're probably just joking but I can't believe people ACTUALLY think this way. These are the same kind of people that defend loot boxes as "incentive to play the game". IF THE GAME IS FUN YOU DON'T NEED "INCENTIVE" TO PLAY IT MORE.

If they ever make another game like this, they should keep the engine but make all of the sprites hand drawn like Sonic 2 HD.

>>388827603
The special stages in this game were amazing. They were the highlight for me honestly.

It just sucks that there are way more blue spheres stages. I wish the roles were reversed.

>>388827695
Tails and Knuckles never had unique leves. Knuckles had alternate paths but they were the exact same levels.

>>388840694
It sucks that the special stages weren't available in multiplayer.

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>>388827432
>hang on the levers in Hydrocity
>try imputing the 3&K level select code
>it actually gives you a chime
>get to one of those speedbooster

>>388840883
I know. It would've been really easy to implement, too. I haven't gotten all of the medals yet but I assume they at least have a time attack mode for them like in Sonic CD?

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>>388827432
>Watch random youtubers do this part
>Apparently jailtoid has a gaming channel
>They're blatantly cheating because they can't beat this boss

>Still manage to die while super

Why is the average "gamer" so shit at video games?

>>388840543
>I hate the green samurai dick
Why?

>>388841813
Because he's too retarded to hit its ass, probably.

>>388841919
Compared to the rider guy he's cake.

>>388841813
Because he doesn't know how to hit him unless he's playing sonic + tails and getting a few cheap shots in with tails.

>>388841986
>rider guy
Check your pronouns, shitlord.

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>>388841986
>rider guy
its' a she

porn of magician egg girl when?

>>388827432
Having to go here:
https://support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-us/requests/new

Then telling them that drm is shit and we wont be playing it with this crap that tells us when and when not we can play a damn game we paid for.
Shit should be redundant in this day and age.

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>>388827432
The worst thing is that the game gives up on doing a story halfway in, resulting in level transitions being dropped, unclear circumstances for the final fight, and an extremely basic and cheaply produced ending.

everything else is great though. game could have used another six months dev time.

The lack of proper transitions. It made sense in Sonic 1 and 2 because it was consistent, but they go half and half here. There's no explanation on why Knuckles was suddenly with them.

>>388835291
Can you elaborate more on this?

I don't understand why people find this level so boring and tedious. Is it because the areas are too similar to each other?

I have a feeling that the levels are a bit inconsistent in quality

also I hate the chaos emerald 3D stages

>>388842331

The special "Knuckles & Knuckles" ending is better produced than any of the actual canon endings.

>>388842553
The most likely explanation is that some levels were cut and they didn't have any way to make it work. Still, they could have made some of them work
>After Hydrocity they pick up the plane from where they left it on angel island
>After Mirage saloon they could get on the train from act 1, which takes them to oil ocean
>After lava reef they run up the chain to the little planet (you can see it in the background)

>>388842831
It's visually uninteresting, the music is so unremarkable that it still hasn't left any impression on me after 4 playthroughs and none of the gimmicks really stood out to me as being particularly well utilized. Incorporating aspects from S3&K bonus stages was the only thing I liked about it.

>>388842912
it's a single still image so not really

>>388841919
>>388841986
>game is badly designed therefore you must suck
I've never died to him, I just think he's annoying and has bullshit attacks. No other enemy in the game can affect you during invincibility frames, except him. He can magically freeze you in a block of ice no matter what for some reason, in direct contrast to the function of invincibility frames for the entire game up until that point and afterward. The dev literally had to sacrifice one of the series' long established mechanics for the sake of making a specific boss functional. That's how poorly designed it is.

>>388842831
What the other guy said, and also it's way too long, the second act took me about 7 minutes to beat

>>388843276
Because if he didn't you'd just facetank the hits and bypass the whole gimmick with invul frames. And then he'd be stupidly easy and forgettable

>>388843276
>no matter what

bring a fire shield next time, retard

>>388843381
Took me about 4. Maybe you just suck.

>>388840990
Wait what are you talking about

The only issue I have with titanic monarch is that it's a bit too long.

>>388843414
Yeah so maybe design a different boss instead of butchering the mechanics of the game?

>>388843420
>just use a crutch like me
Might as wel just use debug mode. Loser.

>>388827432
the screen is 4x smaller than it should be.

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Titanic Monarch is fucking long as fuck, and the music isn't' that good to justify it.

But it's not like I actually hate it or anything.

>>388843745
Full screen, nigga.

>>388843625
Do invincibility frames stop you getting frozen by the ice things in the level? I don't think they do.

Not that it matters, if you need invincibility frames to beat a boss, you probably suck. You're supposed to avoid getting hit.

Why are people sperging out about the octopus boss? Took me only two tries. Oil Ocean in general wasn't that bad. The final stage is a fucking doozy though I tell you what

>>388843625
If that's what it takes to make a fun boss that can't be trivialised then so be it
Never mind several bosses can crush death you, which also ignores invul frames. At least heavy shinobi can't kill you with his sword, just set up ways to hurt you

>>388843852
They don't. He's retarded.

>>388843872
>Oil Ocean in general wasn't that bad.
I'd say it's an objective improvement over Sonic 2's Oil Ocean, which was a bit crap desu.

>>388843872
It's the one boss that kills normies.

>>388827432
only 4 original zones. did someone expect a castle themed zone to fit with the heavy rider? has there been any info on whether this might have been a possibility?

>>388843981
Yes I 100% agree with you

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>>388843981
>t b h gets changed to desu
Huh...

>>388843276
Pretty sure bosses have always been able to hurt you with projectiles even during iframes. I won't pretend any of the HBHs are any good except maybe King but that's not a "standard".

I'm surprised by how much I'm enjoying this. The last few Sonic games have been Bubsy-tier imo but Mania reminds me of how much fun I had playing Sonic as a kid

>>388827432
How little Hydrocity has changed.
No Ice Cap.
Only four new levels.

>>388844106
how new?

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>>388843276
What is it about Sonic that turns people into indignant rabid schmucks rambling about game design?

>>388844527
Not at all, been here for years. Just never used that abbreviation until now.

>>388844608
6 letters, a pervasive developmental disorder of children, characterized by impaired communication, excessive rigidity, and emotional detachment.

>>388844236
>No Ice Cap.
Can't afford the rights to "Hard Times" by the Jetsons.

>>388844608
Plenty of games attract those sorts of idiots
You can tell by the rampant abuse of the terms "risk reward" and "trial and error"

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>>388844608
You mean just like with every game out there?

My favorite is all the people who try to argue Sonic is inherently broken or some shit just because it involves actually punishable repetition. Every other game is quickly removing every form of lives system, allowing fags to die over 50 times even against piss easy bosses, and thinking they're accomplishing anything when they brute force them. As if it was "progress" and "modernization".

Let's ignore the fact that repetition and long lasting repercursion behind mistakes is a big part of many, many game genres.

>>388844904
Bt the Ice Cap song is older. Its release predates Hard Times by over half a decade.

I've played up to stardust speedway and half of the bosses are kind of complete shit.

>green hill act 1
this is a pretty good boss

>green hill act 2
he only does the arm attack if you are close to him, which you need to beat him in the first place, but the entire fight is on a time limit. If you know about that though it's a decent boss.

>chemical plant act 1
this is a good boss. I like his bouncing attack

>chemical plant act 2
I've never played puyo puyo before but this was a fun boss, if surprisingly easy.

>studiopolis act 1
How exactly were you supposed to know that only the blue missiles can be jumped on?

>studiopolis act 2
cool idea and decent boss

>flying battery act 1
it was incredibly easy.

>flying battery act 2
this boss is just a pain to bump into the spikes. It takes ages and he is part of a quite long level as well, so I actually managed to time out.

>press garden act 1
I have no idea how you are supposed to beat it. I just abused the fuck out of invincibility frames. I looked up a video and apparently you need to get it to use the blade attack on the metal boxes?

>press garden act 2
This is a frantic and fun boss

>stardust speedway act 1
It's really good. I like it a lot

>stardust speedway act 2
It's just so awkward to knock the thingies into metal sonic

>>388840172
>Same as S3&K

Why do you people think this is somehow a 'good thing'? EVERY retro Sonic game has always tried to top the last by bringing something new to the table. Be it a new item, a new shield, a new attack, etc. Why is this so hard to comprehend? You literally wait 23 years to release a sequel to a game and you add nothing new to it besides the music? What a fucking waste.

I wish the debug mode had more objects for each level

>>388845239
>which you need to beat him in the first place
You can get onto a hill ahead of him and spindash+jump into his face

>>388845223
Hard Times was recorded in 1982.
It wasn't released, true, but Ice Cap is to close, coupled with the fact that Michael Jackson would have access to lots of unreleased material, it's obvious that it was based on that.

>>388845305
Sonic has the Drop Dash, which is a very welcome addition.

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>>388845305
>You literally wait 23 years to release a sequel to a game and you add nothing new to it besides the music?

>>388843045
I disagree with all of this except for your opinion on the music, and even that improved in act 2

>>388827475
The only people nostalgic for Green Hill are Sonic Team. It sucks.

Titanic Monarch.

Holy shit, that zone went on for WAY too fucking long. Too much shit going on at once. First time I've felt legitimately annoyed at a zone in years.

Press Garden is the best zone yet, though.

Am I the only one who really liked Press Garden? After the leak everyone was supper disappointed with it. But I think it was pretty great.
Also, nice PC release Sega. Sure it was worth it sacrificing "overwhelmingly positive" rating just to spite that one guy posting smug Sonics in hype threads.

>>388845305
lad it has new levels,mirage saloon,some printing press place,studiopolis and a few others

and the old levels are reworked its a new game from the ground up.

>>388846181
It's not bad but inferior in every way to Angel Island and Mushroom Hill.

>>388845239
>studiopolis act 1
>How exactly were you supposed to know that only the blue missiles can be jumped on?
Because it's different from the other two?
And the others blow you up?

>press garden act 1
>I have no idea how you are supposed to beat it. I just abused the fuck out of invincibility frames. I looked up a video and apparently you need to get it to use the blade attack on the metal boxes?
Just stand behind a metal box, it'll smash it's saw blade, hit it 1-3 times. Repeat. Not difficult.

>stardust speedway act 2
>It's just so awkward to knock the thingies into metal sonic
>thingies
That's Silver Sonic from Sonic 2 on the Master System.
Either way, spin dash it when it goes into a ball.
If it doesn't work in one direction, try another.

Also, you said that half are complete shit, but you've said 6 were fun or decent, 1 was easy, 1 genuinely wasn't great and and those 3 up there are more about user error.

>>388846346
And all the new bosses, the various gimmicks in each zone (even the remixed ones), new special stages.

>>388846274
Press Garden was pretty good.

>>388845239
Dude, in press garden act one when the boss drops in it hits a metal crate with its causing its blade to shatter.
You can't get more obvious than that in showing a weak point.

>>388846880
*with it's saw

>>388846880
I dunno. Couldn't all the Sonic friends just constantly yell what you are supposed to do? I'm sure that would be much better.

>>388846369
don't forget palmtree panic

>>388847187
Only if it's a homing shot.

>Oil Ocean, one of the best zones from Sonic 2 gets into Mania
>Has a shit boss
It's a shame, Oil Ocean is fucking rad.

>>388847607
Oil Ocean is one of the most hated zones from classic Sonic games.

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>>388847301
mah nigga.

>>388847734
Most Sonic fans are fucking plebs. Also, Carnival Night is great.

Did anyone else find the hitboxes on the Spiderboss wonky? half the time I just went flying through the fucker and hit the spikes myself

>fail the chaos emerald stage
>can't get back in

fug

>>388847832
Carnival Night is certainly the best of the wacky pinball-inspired levels.

I can't believe people are having this much trouble knocking silver sonics into Metal. Wait for the thing to spindash then spindash into him. Wow, so hard.

>>388847909
Yeah.
You're meant to be hitting the abdomen, not the head. But also the abdomen loses it's hitbox after you hit it and doesn't get it back until it's climbed a little way up.

>>388827432
No of level transitions for like half of the stages.
Underwhelming final boss (and true final boss)
Can't spindash on slopes.
Lack of cool bonus stages like the gumball machine or the casino night slot machine thing from S&K.
I've only played through the game 4 times so I don't have all the experience in the world, but Stardust Speedway Act 2 feels like a mess that's all over the place, and don't even get me started on the boss.

>>388848598
no, I was only aiming for the abdomen, and I would wait a couple seconds between each hit, but sometimes I just went right fucking through him even when he hadn't been hit in like 8 seconds, really god damn infuriating.

>>388828469
I've always been a sucker for Egyptian/Arabian themed music, and Oil Ocean's music has always been more than enough to make up for the level. Now the level is pretty good, and I fucking love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR9K2tPq0SU

>>388845586
You don't even need that, his feet do no damage, just run underneath him and jump into his ass.

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>tfw really loved Titanic Monarch, especially Act 2
>come on /v/ to talk about it
>everyone else hates it

The only zone I didn't like was Lava Reef, because I didn't like it in S&K either.

>>388850202
>hates Lava Reef
>likes Titanic Monarch
kill yourself faggot

>>388850202
It was good anon, I would say it's the best final zone ever.
My major gripe with it being the setting.
A space base or ship is always cooler.

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>>388850202
The only thing i disliked about Titanic Monarch was the lenght, especially for Act 2, it feels like it drags on forever.
However the stage design, aesthetics and music were top notch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkClMY4USnk
>the cathedral area with the stained glass windows

>>388846369

Mushroom Hill>>Green hill>>>>>>Angel island

Angel island is too abrupt for a first level in a sonic game.

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>>388827432
the worst thing is old stages being remixed. they dont even end up being better than the originals and at times have custom content that makes them feel wrong.

other issues:
-old sound effects being reused for new shit
-too many auto pilot sections
-every checkpoint being bluesphere
-edited sonic 2 sprites rather than new ones
-half the levels don't have stage transitions