Overwatch Thread

It has cute girls and they are the only reason to play video games.

>>388822432
>still playing blizzard games
>still playing overwatch
Kill yourself.

>>388822654
Hey there big fella, I never said I still play overwatch.

Gud.
>cute girls
Bad.
>gameplay

>>388822432
Worse gameplay,content and balanced than paladins

if they had better, more unreal/quake maps, would DM/TDM save the game? the game is inherently unbalanced, but TDM has been fun. no need to worry about retards working together for objectives, the reason I quit lol

Bad.
Gatcha is a cancer.

bad voice acting, shallow characters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK9ya1vZZcU

I like it because it's my go-to-game when i have 20 free minutes and don't want to engage in any serious games to drop them 20 minutes later.
Nice visuals for me but that's really subjective, I see how they can be hated.
Gameplay depth is a problem but every hero is different in some way so you can't be bored with the gameplay too fast if you don't play it 25/8.
Community is absolutely cancerous either 25+ salty manchildren or literal children, but deathmatch made the problem a little less problematic since you only have to kill these bitches and don't need to cooperate at all.
Probably more fun with friends.

>>388822959
Tbf, I'd play the fuck out of Overwatch if it had TDM/DM with larger more open maps, and less chokepoint fuckery.

Also SURF MAPS, cus damn.. Combat surfing on TF2 was fun as fuck back in the day, i miss it desu

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>>388822432
It's everything I hate in modern multiplayer opposed to what I loved in cs, team fortress, halo, UT, quake...
No good skill ceiling
No good server browser and server tools
No mods
No mapping
No fun, it's all about working for a fucking gay rank like if I was working in the steel industry trying to have the highest pace to please my boss
No fucking around, follow the meta or you're reported
No Bantz and funny grief, it trigger the sjw gay Trans LGBTQTRFJFDHVJFXJ lobby and you'll be reported

To stay short: it's fucking shit. Fuck you overwatch

>>388823232
The game is good and I guess blizzard has good intentions with some of the scenery. But what ruins the game is the community. The community is full of whiny little pissboys that cry for a nerf every 5 minutes, and Blizzard for some reason complies with them every single time they want a change whether it be shitty or good.

>>388822432
I've never seen so many throwers, trolls, women and noobs in one game ever in my life. Still better than TF2 though.

>>388822432
As much as I like the game, its a breeding ground for toxicity. I feel like once the player base decreases more it will lighten up a little bit. I also wish that blizz would take more time more time with patching characters and abilities rather than rushing to get new characters out to keep the game fresh instead of balanced.

If only the game had a better community, I would put so many hours into it. It's become a cesspool of crybabies that want a nerf every 2 hours.

>>388823325
>I refuse to git gud at the game
>I refuse to play quick play, I only hit that competitive button then get mad at people taking the game seriously
>On the same hand I think everyone is shit at the game, but, they also report me for being a shit player which I'm totally not
>I can't call people faggot and giggle like a retard

It's like you live in a salt mine.

>>388823689
Except the meta is ridiculous, if you don't play a certain character everyone goes apeshit. You got one guy instalocking Hanzo and one dipshit getting mad at him because everyone thinks Hanzo players are bad. The entire game is a salt mine for everyone on the team. Not once have I been in a game that didn't end up being a shitshow because people were forced to play someone they aren't good at. The game's only fun with friends.

Fun to play with friends

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>>388823689
>t. Triggered overwatch retard with no good arguments so he try personal attacks

Also quick play is a mess, it's like playing on some orange skial on Tf2. Why would it be impossible to have good servers with a decent level minus the intense wave of autism coming from overwatch ranked faggot?

>>388823909
The key is to mute and move on.

>>388823909
Nigga, you don't even know salt until even your own team hates you for the amount of kill stealing you do as Junkrat, I'm level 40 and people still call me a smurf. Just got to find a good class and prove them wrong when you dominate the game. But Hanzo is shit after all the nerfing he got.

>>388824129
Yeah I'm just going to mute everyone PROBLEM SOLVED! No of course not you fucking philistine, the community needs to be purged for this game to succeed. Everyday the game is losing players because of its toxicity. It's getting worse than league, and that's saying something.

>>388824129
I'm still going to get a shit load of report If I want to play my Boi Torb.

Fuck you, I like Torb
He's cool

I will always be faithful to tf2

Pros
>Fun
>Cool powers/abilities/characters
>Cute Waifus

Cons
>Nuclear-Tier Toxic Community. The worst I've ever experienced
>Cringy humor
>Disappointing hyped updates
>Low map variety
>Hanzo/Torb/Winston

I recommend it despite all that.

>>388824208
Heroes like torb, sym, and junkrat are actually really good. People just don't know how to play against symmetra because they're too fucking dumb to aim correctly before she even latches on to you, and then they cry for a nerf like they always do.

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>>388824248
But tf2 will not be faithful to you forever

>>388824289
This, I get a stream of shit everytime I go Junkrat, then after the game when I have play of the game because the idiot team grouped on point or I last shot the entire team with direct hit grenades no ones got shit to say.

>>388824207
Not everyone playing is a shit-eating mouth-breather anon. or at least not from my experience with the game.
>>388824208
Do the reports actually do something now?
I've been "reported" at least 50 times and never got b8.

>>388824248
I still have an inkling of hope for tf2, the community was bearable and the game was good if you played with friends. A lot of memories were had in that game. Valve has only a small team working on tf2, that's why there aren't that many updates coming out so suddenly. let's hope that pyro update comes soon, because sooner or later tf2 will become a thing of the past.

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>>388824534
>the community was bearable

Good
>It requires teamwork
>Sombra is really fun

Bad
>It requires teamwork
>Pharmercy exists

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>>388822432


It took 2247 reports to ban me.

Enjoy your new punishment system I checkmated Blizzard into making btw.

>>388824610
Fuck off you heehaw the tf2 community is still better than the overwatch community. There is literally nothing redeeming about the toxic wasteland that is the overwatch community.

>>388824702
So autistic babbling is better than autistic screeching? Good to know.

>>388824683
The reporting system looks like it's improving but I don't trust Blizzard so we shall see.

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>>388824457
>"-STOP PLAYING JUNKRAT AND SWITCH TO PHARA INSTEAD NOW"
>"-but I like playing junkrat, he's a cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything"
>"-UHG, HEY EVERYONE,LETS REPORTS THIS TOXIC JUNKRAT, HE'S GOING TO THROW THE MATCH"

>>388824534
I'm ready to close that chapter, anon. It has been good.

I had many hysterical laughs and I am ready to move on.

>>388824815
I would rather listen to babbling than screeching, only a gutter snake like you would appreciate constant screeching.

>>388824873
I let people play Junkrat in comp, but at the same time I'm thinking "does shit shithead really think he is such a good junkrat that I, who's a really good soldier, should play support for him?".

99% of the time the junkrat does nothing but charge the enemy Zarya and get a lucky kill occasionally while a Pharah is killing all of us since we have no counter

>>388824457
Junkrat is literally so fun to play, now with his two concussion mines I'm going to have a field day playing him.

Blizzard is dead-set on making the game as boring as possible with lots of tanks, barriers, and healers, and not a lot of doing damage.

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>>388824880
What if tf2 was adapted to the Nintendo switch?

>>388824989
When I play junkrat I switch to soldier/mccree if there's a pharah, only imbecile junkrat players charge zarya bubbles.

>>388824886
>Talk shit about both games
>automatically assumes I like one over the other
Yeah, you fit in with both communities.

>>388825056
I have never seen a junkrat NOT spam grenades down hallways, because that's what he does, he denies entry. But the result of this is that Zarya sees grenades and she uses them to charge. It's unpreventable unless you ignore Junkrat's one strength.

>>388822432
The sr system is litterly broken and if you place lower then mid plat your better off buying a new account then grinding up.

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>>388825028
>See that Heavy over there?
>You can uber it

Guess is as good thread to ask this as any.

I have a pretty old PC, sans the graphics card, which I upgraded not long ago. And I get microstuttering in OW, but not other games like D44M or Destiny 2 which are about as graphically intensive if not more.
The FPS counter rarely dips below 60, but the stuttering is still there, and it has another symptom - game sounds often seem to play twice.

Maybe someone else faced this issue and know if it's specific to Overwatch and I can fix it by clearing the B.net app cache or something. Or is my PC just dying?

>>388824208
>someone goes torb
>go Orisia to help the manlet
>the opposing team loses to it initially, but changes their composition to deal with it in later matches
>torb however doesn't fucking change the entire game
>lose
The problem isn't people picking off-meta heroes; the problem is when these dumb fucking shitheads don't switch when they're obviously getting countered.

>>388825219
You need to upgrade your fucking Processor Bruv, either that, or build/buy another computer.

>>388825228
yup and it's always thorb or hanzo, often junkrats. those three heroes are nEVER switched off because they suffer from persecution complex or something

>>388825219
maybe you need to play at a higher framerate if you're able to. mouse movement in OW feels awful at 60fps for me for some reason, I have to play at 120fps to have smooth aim.

there should be a "buffering"-something option that should help also

>>388822432
Symmetra and Junkrat still exist

i.e. it's fucking bad

>>388825295
I've been thinking about it for a long time now. My CPU is eight years old by now, but it was a fucking beast when I bought it. It still runs all these newfangled games and is pretty powerful. But it doesn't take heat well and lacks some other features like the newest instruction sets.
I've heard CPU thorttling due to heat can cause this kind of stuttering, so it's not unlikely.

It's just that changing CPU means also changing mobo and RAM.

FUCKING REMOVE PHARMERCY IN 4V4 DEATHMATCH

>>388825446
>Can't aim well enough to kill a 200 health squishy well before she get's into death ray range
>Cries about it
Gtfo manlet

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OW community in a nutshell
>NERF MY HARD COUNTER
>BUFF MY MAIN
>Blizzard actually complies

>>388825591
>200 health
>squishy

>>388825482
In this case I think it's best you build a computer or buy a prebuilt one. If you build one you already have a decent gpu. Overwatch is mostly graphics heavy, but you will still have stuttering problems if the cpu is bad.

>>388825673
The avrage is 250 anon with the lowest bing 150. That is squish.

>>388825689
Guess I'll do just that before the end of the year. Wanna be ready for MHW when lands on PC too, even though I still plan on buying it for PS4 day 1.

>>388825673
>implying you couldn't take on a symmetra who is by no means a tank.
Improve your aim shitlord, unless of course you play rheinhardt and literally ALLOW the symmetra to gun you down.

>>388825482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwipo9hx4qI

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I play mostly Genji or Tracer. I might quit next patch with the Mercy changes. Hunting down the Mercy before a teamwipe was the only thing that kinda gave it made it fun and challenging and not just a mindless Q to win battle.Now with the new Mercy changes its truly become a braindead game. Not that it wasnt a mechanically great game before but this just made it even worse.

>>388825640
Blizzard needs to stop listening to the 1%, they already ruined Dva and roadhog to the point where they lost their viability. I mean how THE FUCK did someone at blizzard think it was a good idea to nerf her Defense matrix to the point of shittiness and adding foam rockets that barely do any damage if at all.

Is
>Press Q to win
The ultimate sign that people who say it don't play Overwatch?

>>388826080
The mercy changes are fucking abhorrent, I don't know who thought it was a good idea to make her rez a 30 second cooldown ability. Now you'll have shitfaced players wanting to be rezzed over other heroes. The game will turn into a shitshow if they go through with the valkyrie changes.

>>388826310
Ive one many games by pressing q

>>388823290

Yeah, the DM maps feel way too crowded and small. Remember in UT/UT2k3 the maps were both open & tunnelled at points. that would be fun

>>388826096
Defense Matrix in its current form is bullshit though.

>>388826096
I think the problem with D.va is that her DM counters relies too much on gimmicks to do enough damage to her.
DM ate practically everything except Zarya's and Symmetra's laser. These two weapons relied on either the opposing team being stupid fucks and charging the bubble or being close enough to let a Symmetra get close enough to attach her gun and let it microwave you long enough to do enough damage to her mech. We really needed some sort of laser hero that can do a decent amount of unconditional damage.

>>388826310

yes.

because ults are fucking useless if you dont do them just right.

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>>388824873
I like ow but it has too many children/ragebabies + girls who think theyre gods gift to the team just because they 4 man rezzed then gets """toxic""" when we still lose

>>388826310
>press Q as hanzo
>About to get a sick ult as whole team is grouped up in zarya ult
>Dva defense matrixes and eats the dragon arrow
M I S S I O N F A I L E D

>>388826390
Am I the only one who likes the changes?
Now instead of just letting your team die and then press Q to POTG, you can more proactively and gradually support it, and aren't totally defenseless against enemy flankers, provided you have the new ult ready.

>>388825673
Just get good at tracer and you can kill anyone without being countered

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>>388826096
Hogs alright imho in the current new patch with his changes. The problem is that hes still such a big ult feeder. they should just remove 300 hp and give him 150 armor. Make the Huff breather heal twice as slow when it hits the Armor mark on the hp bar.
They probably wont because lol fat isnt armor but fuck off, balance over logic.

>>388826536
But its okay now that Dva had her defense matrix nerfed into the fucking ground.

>>388826568
Tracer is even squishier.
Unless the Hog nerf doesn't let him oneshot you from full health anymore.

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>all these redditor numales unironically whining about "toxicity"

>>388826553
I like them because I fucking hated hiding like a little faggot in order to properly use my ult.

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I want to gently rub Roadhogs belly and make out with him.

1. Remove Genji, Hanzo and Widow
2. Game is now fun

>>388826609

now she is going to bully extra hard though.

>>388826632
Okay now you really just exposed your power level
Tracer has no counters

you mean dpswatch?

>>388826568

Can someone show me a good Tracer vs Hanzo? I don't know how to counter him with Tracer, but I'm a pro Genji

>>388826675

>I like playing in shit
>if you dont like playing in shit too you are a numale.

oh okay.

>>388826553
>Play as the new Mercy
>Two teamates die instantly in the beginning of the round
>They get into a shouting match on who should be rezzed over the other
>Die because you are an indecisive little bitch

>>388826717
>bait his meme scatter and dodge it
>shoot face

>>388826762
Sounds like a personal problem to me.

>>388826760
>somebody says words to me that I can easily mute
>"playing in shit"

kill yourself

>>388822432
Shit game

The only reason I play this game is to troll Blizzdrones.

>>388826706
Elaborate.

>>388826805
It's the other team's fault if they couldn't kill the mercy before using their ults and obliterating 5 of the heroes on a team, if a mercy gets a team rez its the other team's fault, it's as simple as that amigo.

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>>388826767
Hanzos who rely on scatter are fucking pathetic and in 1v1 situations after they use it and miss I just dont even attack, I just strafe and crouch spam
after 5 seconds of not being hit by any of their arrows, I kill them by melee just to let them know they suck dick

>>388826762
Theres a hierarchy that you'll have to learn the same way theres an Ana ult hierarchy.
>Symmetra who is close to getting her TP should be top
>Tanks are the higher on the totem pole
>heros close to game-changing ults
>the average joe
>heros with good movement abilities
is probably how I'll judge who gets the rez.

Good
>colourful, generally nice to look at
>many characters that play differently, if you get bored of playing one you can switch to another
>runs good
>waifus and models for sfm porn
>can be fun with friends

Bad
>MAPS
>most of the heroes lack depth
>actual shooting doesn't feel that good
>you are constantly bombarded with "positive reinforcement" because you did whoopin 1 damage to a character, so it counts as an elimination, the result: it's not that rewarding to kill single enemy anymore
>game somehow manages to turn most of my laid-back friends into competitive nutbags unlike any other game
>retarded community
>game's premise is changing heroes to adapt, but waiting for ult stops people from doing that

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>>388826829

the toxicity is not bad because boohoo they hurt my feelings.

it's bad because your team gets tilted super easy and ends up losing because either somebody throws because they are not getting their way or everyone is sperging out so hard that they start making stupid mistakes.

>>388826990
you can't control other people's behavior. learn that and deal with it and just stop playing team based games if you can't handle it

>>388822432
Blizzard can't blalance for shit. Half the charater are under power and useless wile 4 or 5 charaters are in every fucking g game. If the do dieside they are going to balance they ether make it so fucking op it gets a hot fix the next week or nerfed into the ground usless.

>>388826390
I like it, but the new ult feels very overpowered since she heals constantly while flying around. There's almost no shutting it down without being a great widowmaker.

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>>388826873
>can panic button out of any situation
>can bait her counters abilities (flashbang, scatter, hook)

Just watch some pro asian and you'll realize this

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Only reason I am having fun recently is because of the junkrat buff. The 2 mines are so great
>See pharah
>throw one mine on the floor
>Jump in the air
>Throw the other mine right in pharahs face
Or
>Enemy Genji is starting his ult above us
>spam 2 mines and explode them in the air
>rip 240 hp
>Genji: kys
>Genji left the game

How does one live their life if they get so unironically triggered by someone calling them names in an online game?

It seems like the OverWatch community (and alot of other "reddit" games/types of people) lose their minds over the simplest of insults. "You suck at this game." "AHHHH TOXIC, TOXIC, REEE, AHAHSFDASDBJ" etc. And dear god help them if someone calls them a name like faggot or nigger or tells them to kill themselves.

I just don't get it. Getting called names shouldn't destroy your entire self for a few hours/days. I want to kill myself every single day of my life, getting told "kys faggot" in an online video game doesn't effect me at all. What is wrong with these people?

>>388827056
High noon, my dude.
It's practically the only reason to use it.

>>388825028
I would keep playing it for sure.

>>388827047
I understand that.

That doesn't mean it's not a problem.

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>>388826928
>Ana ulting a symmetra
>EVER
Get out of here, there are so many other heroes to ult as ana, sym should never be given a nano

playing rn on </spoiler>ps4<spoiler> and literally everyone chooses a dps, complete omission of healers and tanks

>>388826892
It's not about that. The issue here is that her ult goes against the whole idea of having a healer. When a good Mercy is a Mercy that never has to use her ult, it's a fault in the game's design. A healer's role should be to keep their team alive and doing everything possible preventing a team wipe. The rework helps her accomplish just that, smooth out her support over time and avoid team wipes in the first place.

>>388827121
I'm talking about rez you monkey.

>>388822432
It was loads of fun close to launch
then it became a shit tier grindfest
but now I main symm and torb so it's fun again

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>we could have had big, open maps with 12v12 or at least 10v10 players
>3 tracers countered by 3 torbs countered but ulting reapers
>if someone drops, it's w/e they won't impact the match much, so everyone is more chill
>instead we have hard chokepoints, 6v6 and maps with no real flanking routes

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>>388826892
>she thought the 10 second respawn mercy stall on gibraltar was fair

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Bad
>6v6 limit
>no player-run servers to foster server communities
>no custom maps

Good
>lots of classes
>hot girls

>>388822432
I want a disco floor with custom music for a death match map.

I don't feel like it wants to siphon my wallet. The events are enough to keep me coming back. Blizzard is still one of my favorite devs.

>>388827121
>not wanting 160dps beam that requires no aim

>>388823325
Is this you?

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20758687468?page=4#post-72

>>388827059
Yeah but there aren't that many pro asian tracer when play, more often than not I end up flashbanging them easily because they are bad at baiting out an ability.

>>388827059
Yeah, but she's squishy as fuck. She can't bail out of being dead, saying otherwise is just stupid. A stray Hanzo arrow or any other occurrence of high burst damage deletes Tracer from the game.

>>388827148
You cannot outheal 90% of the ults in the game as Mercy even with the new ult changes. if you want that you need Zens or Lucios ult.

>>388827271
Thats why you play her and not mccree

Google whoru tracer

>>388827115
it's only a problem because you get frustrated at your mongoloid team

>>388827293
>t. Gold

>>388827260
I would actually appreciate a full on forest map on something like Eichenwald. The black forest map has like 5 trees, its not even a fucking forest. I would nut if Blizzard made a full on forest control point made with a bunch of thick trees and rocks for cover.

>>388827270
>it took them 2000+ reports to punish a random guy

Potentially good game combined with shitty devs doesn't really work out good

The game does not encourage anything positive. It depends from hero to hero but the game on a fundamental level should encourage sticking together and performing your role. Fucking hell even paladins made a shitty attempt the closest thing OW has is healing on the payload which is not much.

I play fighters and practice a little IRL I have no problem taking Ls. But there is no worse feeling than losing and feeling your team didn't play to the objective or play to win. Especially when the game on a fundamental level is broke (useless class of heroes and meta that sifts faster than sand) and doesn't encourage good play. Even fucking CoD does that.

I'mm maybe give another chance if they fix this but getting a Mei in koth is not fun and ill chalk it up to $39.99+tax lost

>>388827295
Yeah, but when you lose only one or two teammates, it makes you want to hold off the ult until someone else dies, or "waste" it on just these people. You can argue this encourages strategic thinking, but I see it only encouraging unhealthy mindset in support players, making them wish "if only more of my teammates were dead".
I feel steadier one person resurrections are better for both Mercy's and the enemy's team. It encourages her teammates to play better and don't just rely on the res in case they get taken out, and it's less frustrating for the enemies and Mercy herself, which play a metagame of their own called "kill Mercy and don't use your ults a second earlier".
I think it would make the game more enjoyable overall.

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>''Oh cool they added deathmatch!''
>Jump in
>Everyone is only playing Hog,Soldier or Mccree because of balancing

>>388827516
The moment the overwatch community becomes less toxic and nerf hungry is when the game will become an actual good and fun game. But, that will probably never happen.

>no bikini skin
what's the point of making a waifu game

>>388827352
I don't even play ranked nowadays. I qualified in Diamond and lost interest soon after. I just feel like all people proclaiming how op Tracer is are just bad at countering her.

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>>388827708
>implying it is ever a good idea to play mercy in deathmatch

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>>388827736
>tfw no mod tools so you cant have everyone running around naked

>>388827708
My brother dominates with Bastion.

>>388827736
Au contraire, there is a widowmaker bikini skin, too bad its locked away in a summer games lootbox that we have to wait for until next year.

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>>388827848
>widowmaker bikini skin
The default skin and it's recolors are 10 times better due to it being skintight. They will never be able to top that unless they make a version that's more revealing.

>>388827738
Tracer is easily countered if you know what you are doing.

>>388828103
the talon widow skin then

>>388828103
Yeah but you are forgetting that the skins in the game are made for literal children and horny manlets. They won't get any more revealing than her bikini skin, sorry man.

>>388828103
She could use a skin with matte texture, like Cadet Tracer.

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>>388828103
Its only better because Blizzard pussied out and covered Widows ass on the bikini skin. Her ass is her main attraction

the greatest r34 of vidya

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I can move and shoot at people with various characters.
I CS:GO you have to learn smokes (which I dislike) and you can't move and shoot so I prefer Overwatch.
I sure as hell don't know any FPS alternatives to OW with an arcade-y feel. If anyone has any recommendations feel free to share.

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>>388828301
This, I havent played the game in over a year and still fap to the SFM atleast once a week

>>388828231
Cadet tracer's ass is nice, but the ass on the new Mercy skin is OH so divine.

>>388827708
I always end up top 4 with Ana and Zen, hell even my one game of Torb, you just have to git gud. Although I'm diamond so that's pretty average.

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>>388828301

>>388828339
Thank goodness Overwatch hasn't gotten to the point of Gun skins and skin marketplace. I literally stopped playing Cs:GO after the damn Glove update.

>>388828426
If you fall into anything under Diamond it gets really hard to work your way up with all the throwers and the leavers.

>>388828387
What? You mean Winged Victory? But it gets rid of the best parts of her design - the boobplate and the latex turtleneck.
Unless, of course, you're a degenerate feetfag.

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>>388828149
The talon skin falls flat due to it masking her backside with that dumb harness looking thing.

>They won't get any more revealing than her bikini skin, sorry man.
I'm still waiting for the inevitable highleg leotard skin. Hopefully with a less stupid looking rifle this time.

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>>388828470
I used to play Dota2 like a madman up until the third international. A friend recently convinced to play a few games with him and I had legitimate trouble telling heroes apart due to all the overdesigned garbage skins and arcanas. Hell even wards look like random creatures if you have skins, what the fuck is Valve thinking? I know they're jews but try to have a little artistic integrity for fucks sake.

>>388828573
Im not tarantino sorry, but if you've seen mercy's winged victory ass, you would nut instantly in game.

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Anyone else think the new lootbox system is objectively worse than the old one?

I usually play events for like 30-40 hours and usually get a couple of event legendaries. The last event I played about the same amount but didnt get even 1 event legendary. Only a fuckton of sprays, Icons, voicelines and victory poses I dont give a flying fuck about.

>>388828339
this may be obvious but have you tried tf2? theres a larger focus on moving and shooting than in overwatch and less focus on individual character abilities.

>>388828653
Valve literally killed themselves with that Dota Card game shit, they are letting overwatch take over the Class based shooter market because valve is too busy trying to find new ways to shill pixels in their old games.

>>388828572
It's very hard to carry in this game if you're near your skill rank. A Diamon is better than a Plat, but he's not as good as 6 plats, where he might literally be able to crush an entire team of Golds.
The Matchmaking is pretty garbage, I have no real words of defense for it, it's just flat out bad.

>>388828725
I still play tf2, but it has lost its touch, we need a new update soon because its community is getting fed up with the inactiveness.

>>388828725
I've had my fun with TF2, it's a cool game but I've had enough of it over the years, also none of my friends play anymore.

>>388828713
it is worse, IF you play the game like you usually do (only events), now i'll start playing each week for the arcade boxes, this way i'll have more chances to get event skins when the time comes, also it's harder to get currency too.

>>388823689
Sick straw man, you really told him cx

>>388828713
I got like 4 legendaries, you probably just had really really garbage luck. Remember that Leggos only come roughly once in 14 crates.

>>388829051
I got two legendary items in a lootbox once, too bad it was a legendary roadhog skin and coin box.

It's not bad, it's not good... But it sure as hell ain't ugly.

>>388824989
>i let
>shit shithead
>I, who's a really good soldier
You are what's wrong with the community. People like you seep the fun out of things because you need the sweet sweet win,

>>388828823
>>388828886

other than tf2 i would look at quake champions or nu-doom multiplayer. the market for run and gun is really small these days.

>>388828713
There's a new lootbox system? What's the difference?

>>388829172
>wanting to win in comp is a bad thing
if you want to play spamrat qp still exists

>171 replies
>/v/ still loves eating Blizzard shit

Really makes you think

Now tell me guys, whats the problem with junkrat? He has literally everything. Tons of damage, escape, can counter tracer, and mass oneshot ult. Why all the toxicity against him? His only weakness is pharah.

>>388829374
>another faggot shitposting about muh Blizzdrones without providing a single alternative to Overwatch
RLY MEK TINK :OOOOO

>>388822432
The game is absolutely and utterly boring to me. I wasn't a fan of online shooters in general but after playing the beta (and later on my friend's copy of the game) and trying all the characters I decided it's just boring me because there is nothing to strive for expect some dumb number and cosmetics that don't do shit.

That's not to mention the artstyle is...well objectively it's nice but to me it's just so generic and uninspired it hurts to look at. This extends to gameplay as I don't think it brings anything new to the genre, even if I cared about it.

Objectively I would say it's not a bad game but let's be honest, it's Blizzard so of course it would sell well, get popular and spawn numerous clones.

And the whole """"""SJW""""" controversy around the game is another kind of thing I don't even want to get into, especially considering how hypocritical the game is in that aspect anyways.

>>388824873
bugs... easy on the carrots...

>>388829438
His projectiles are slow and easy to avoid

He has more weaknesses than Pharah. Literally any character that can sidestep his grenades and kill from some range will win over him. And since the grenades are so slow, it's easy for Genji to deflect them back at his team if they're all in a tight space or Zarya to just walk into them with bubble for some free charge.

The only character he really counters is Reinhardt. Almost Tracer, but it really just forces her to play more careful to make it a non-issue.

>>388822432
good
>cute girls
>gameplay
>art style

bad
>balancing
>toxic community
>bad maps

>>388829542
All your points are valid and you're entitled to your opinion. You're a cool guy anon.

>>388829438
Due to getting random kills and trap/meme cheese, he's become a shitter magnet, so people are naturally wary of every Junkrat in their games. A good Junkrat is terrifying.

>>388823071
why people cares about characters and personalities in multiplayer shooter?
I dont see you complain about lack of personalities in dota 2 or rainbow six siege

>>388827848
>grape drank
no thanks

>>388829287
No more duplicates but you get more trash.

>>388822432
Duel, Deathmatch and Team Deathmatch prove how empty, slow and boring this game is without an objective.

It's started following an arena shooter formula without the arena shooter movement, weapon or item pickups. All because Blizzard are cunts and are trying to eclipse Quake Champions before it gets out the gate.

>>388829764
>lack of personalities in dota 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsTO3BmWYsM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXAtTkQi8Ps

>>388829469
How about trying a fucking shotgun in your mouth, you shit-eating Blizzdrone?

>>388829891
>still no arguments
:O

>>388829794
>No more duplicates
Sounds like a good trade-off.

>>388829818
>a team-based game designed around objectives is bad in a FFA environment!
Who'd a thunk? OW is a stupid shitty game solo because you're not gonna get any proper teamwork with randoms, which defeats the entire purpose of the game. Get a group of friends who doesn't suck at the game and it's plenty of fun.

I think a lot of the hate this game receives from /v/ is from people who plays this game solo, which usually is just a miserable experience.

>>388829891
t. mad TFag because Blizzard made better game

>>388829953
It's not, it's a scam that sounds good on paper. Previously I usually had enough credits to buy event-exclusive items (this is without purchasing a single crate mind you, all gained through playing normally) but now I just get a bunch of shitty sprays, no credits and barely ever legendaries.

>>388826310
overwatch is literally just take potshots at each other and then press Q to try to break through the chokepoint: the game though

>>388830058
You'd be surprised how hard it is to make Q work.

>>388830058
this is only true for bad players

>>388822432
I've seen a lot of post about toxic players but I have only met one autist who deliberately threw but that's about it. Wtf is everyone else doing?

>>388828467
what booru is that

>play QuickPay
>Hanamura on attack
>It's another torb/symmetra/Reinhard/mercy/bastion/orisa comp
>Typical team of 4 DPS and Hanzo (genji/McCree/tracer/doomfist)
>Genji gets mad because no healer
>Leave
Fuck you guys, Everytime you'll go 5 DPS or Hanzo I'll go Widowmaker and I'll don't gave a shit about the team

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>>388830169
I've lost countless games to people being mad and arguing. Not actually throwing, just fighting like children over someones pick and then tilting out of control.

>teammmate tells our Hanzo to switch pls
>Hanzo is actually doing really well
>teammate grows increasingly mad due to "Hanzo throwing"
>teammate starts arguing with everyone else convincing them that Hanzo is losing us the game
>meanwhile Hanzo is doing his best and trying to play the video game he paid for
>we lose, and even if we don't lose everyone had a miserable time because autists
That's Overwatch competitive in a nutshell.

>>388822432
It's bad

>Despite having a community as large as it does blizzard takes forever and five fucking years to update the game
>Hero releases are slow as cat shit down a metal slide
>Balance is so bad it's like blizzard does it on purpose
>Ranked MMR has been shit since S2

>>388829764
>dota 2
>siege
>lack of personalities
what the fuck? have you ever played either of the games?

>>388830279
>dps complains that no one picks healer
>tell him to go back to spawn and click "H" and select a healer
>he keeps bitching and never switches
I don't understand these people. Do they just think they're more important than others? It's weird.

its mediocre, it appeals to the lowest common denominator and that's it's biggest problem probably.

>>388830152
oh you're right I forgot "good players" just follow the dive meta

>>388822470
fpbp

>>388830372
>Hero releases are slow as cat shit down a metal slide
Because they need big story unlike edgy generic shit in Dota and LoL.

>>388830380
People forget DotA2 has interesting personalities because they all look like garbage.
rip skeleton king

>>388822432
It's fun.

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>>388830704
It's not.

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>>388830598
ikr

>>388822432
It has Blizzard's post-WOW community.

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>>388830743
>"stop liking what I don't like!"

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>>388830828
The irony of your existence is you probably laugh at Candy Crush and Skyrim but think Overwatch is a good game.

>>388826080
Nobody liked playing prophunt trying to find that bitch in the middle of a team fight nigger what are you smoking?

>>388827260
Was already done in one of the greatest shooters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLy6VDSLDI4

>>388831115
Not him, but I bet you enjoy some games many others here find to be bad.
Fun is not about quality, you can't tell people what they should or shouldn't enjoy, because that's not how it works.

>>388831115
No games are good, stop pretending you have anything resembling good taste.

>>388831234
That's fair and well but Overwatch is objectively terrible in general game design, character design, balance, both hero and map wise, and no content.
You can have fun with a shit game but pretending that it's good is another matter.

>>388831116
I play flankers, hunting down mercy/healers is my job and i liked it. Adds a little more coordination and teamplay to the game rather than just pressing Q when your meter just filled up

>A futuristic TF2
Finally, a good new IP.
>Mercy has too many sinful skins
Never mind, all new IPs are bad.

>>388831115
I do actually, among with soulsborne and nudoom. I also like to form my own opinion and actually try games before shitting on them instead of parroting like the majority of people do here.

>muh custom servers

Customization is good but I don't trust the community for a second. Have you learned nothing from tf2?

>>388832263
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/List_of_maps
Yea

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>>388832263
>hurrr fun joke mods exist therefore user freedom is BAD!
kill yourself

Dva is a kid and Ana is an old hag, but they are the only female characters with realistic adult female proportions.

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>>388822432
>Good
Sexy characters
Diverse characters
Colorful world
Uplifting message
Sexy characters

>Bad
Press one button to kill the team
Costumes behind loot crates
Fast paced fps makes me want to throw up
FPS, why have sexy character models if you're going to make sure I don't look at em?
No map

>>388833589
>Dva is a kid

>>388834060
>Press one button to kill the team
I've seen this argument many times, but how often you've actually managed to pull it up?

I dislike the business model. The game is certainly fun for awhile, but it doesn't feel like it was made to be a good game. It feels like a product, a culmination of everything learned from TF2, LoL, and certain mobile games.

The characters in particular feel as if they were made to sell toys, cartoons, and skins instead of being made to...be played, I suppose. The whole thing feels disengenous

>>388834060
>Colorful world
A vomit of multiple genres and styles mashed together, stripped of any character, synthetic and sterile.
>Diverse characters
Diversity is not inherently good.
>Uplifting message
>We wuz heroes n shiet!

>>388834645
Yes, she's 19 years old.

>>388834997
Not him but probably 0. The only time you can kill a team is if the team is full of shitters. That's what he is most likely

>>388835456
>19 years old
>kid

>>388830598
People forget DotA 2 has personalities because DotA players don't pick characters for that reason. No one picks Ursa because they think he's quirky and would look funny in a beach outfit, he's picked because you want to fuck someone up. No one picks Techies because he's cute, you pick him to ruin everyone's next hour. DotA heroes are gameplay focused, they're not intended for people to main and create an emotional attachment too. They're tools. It's not about what they look like, it's what they do.

Rubick and Timbersaw alone have more personality than most other genre imitators, even then

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>>388822432
Eh, it's mindless (buzzword). It's got a nice set of waifu's age 19-60+, thin-thick-buff, so there's variety or at least the illusion of it.

The devs attention to feedback is a double-edged sword at times.

>>388835576
Yeap.

>>388835636
>waaah nerf this
>waaah buff that
Devs should really stop listening to vocal minority.

McCree is one of the most fun classes to play in the history of shooters.

>>388835896
How, he does like three things

>>388835748
Blizzard balancing has been infamously terrible for a long time, I'm surprised that anyone is surprised

>>388835748
>Devs should really stop listening to vocal minority.
Or you know, have someone competent on the balance team.
Which'll never happen as superbunnyhop proved that activision/blizzard spend almost no money on dev time.

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>>388835748
People main characters and that is the problem. It's fine if you main a couple of chars that have different roles. But for example people pick Genji,widow or hanzo and start crying how Winston is OP and ruins their fun when hes a hard counter to those heros and instead of switching they start shouting on the forum how ''broken'' that hero is and how their main should get a buff.

>>388836006
>how can Tetris be fun, all you do is one thing

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>>388822432

Overwatch managed to avoid the major pitfall of other "hero" games in that they actually managed to create a believable and compelling universe where the characters make sense and it's not just a hodgepodge of fantasy tropes tossed in a salad like Battleborn or Gigantic. It's not like the lore is deep or anything, but it feels like the characters make sense and don't merely exist to check off boxes. Even the most blatant archetypes (Roadhog as the token hook man) are done in a way that makes their character design and personality shine over their overall function. That's the only good thing about the game, though.

It's too slow to be a shooter and too fast for a MOBA. It wants deaths to be punishing for one side and devastating for the other. It wants to support switching characters on the fly while enforcing a strict 2-2-2 meta, 2-2-1-Flex at best. Ultimates and barriers remove any sense of personal skill or expression and make the game all about abilities rather than learning to shoot. Attempts to balance underpowered heroes have proven to be complete fucking nightmares and we haven't even gotten to attack helicopter Mercy yet. Mobility is the name of the game because Blizzard saw it fit to have 12 heroes that can jump around all over the place and only three who can stop them, and then nerfed the shit out of all three.

>>388836101
That's the problem with the character design. It sells, it causes people to form an attachment to certain characters and therefore the game, but it also significantly changes how a player approaches gameplay itself. My buddy isn't picking Hanzo because we need his skillset, he's picking Hanzo because he likes Hanzo and got a cool new skin.

The community is retarded, especially on consoles. People are either gloating/humble bagging or they shit on you for not being perfect.

I just play quick play or Free for All. Competitive is too much.

>>388836227
Who cares about lore, though. These games are meant to be played, not to make cartoons out of

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>>388822432
It's bad because it's a TF2 clone whose only purpose is to capitalize and cash in on testosterone from people pumping off to fictional female "heroes", and nothing more. Welcome to the state of the video gaming industry in %CURRENTYEAR%.

>>388836341

>Who cares about lore

You say that but it's the difference between a game feeling like a genuine effort and feeling like a cash-in.

>>388824534
TF2 had its moment, i'm just waiting for the Pyro update for a last hurrah with it before uninstalling

>>388836598
I'm going to out myself as a DotA player here, which I know will cause people to disregard my opinion, but it remains a successful game while having terrible lore. The community just wants to play the game, they don't give a shit about Radiant and Dire exist.

At the very least, the heroes themselves are unique and appealing with really neat individual lore, but on a universal level the best we've got is a 6'5 dude with a Mickey Mouse voice making YouTube videos

>>388822432
It's fun and I'm good at it.
Overwatch really doesn't have any major flaws that stands out compared to any other big MP game.

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>>388836251
The reason why all 25 character have a low skill ceiling is so that everyone can switch to a character they barely play if needed and still fill their role. I get that people want to play their favorite character but from the beginning thats not how it was designed. Yet Blizzard caters to these cry babies and keep fucking up the balance.

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>>388835896
Son, meet Flying McCree.

>>388822432
Watched a twitch stream of this game once. Everyone was flying around for some odd reason. That and its a blizzard game so its dumbed down to league/wow average players makes for it most likely being a bad game.

>>388837138
This game is fun to play, but incredibly bad to watch. I only understand what's going on because I play it. At the very least with other games you can see the whole play field from above

>>388826553
I think the changes are fine but there's still some nerfing to do, the rez cooldown should be bigger and her ult chaining healing/boosting steps too much into Zen's and Orisa's ults

Best game out atm, took TF2 formula and improved it. The fanbase is fucking awful though, they care more about porn and the relations of the characters than the gameplay. Pathetic people.

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>>388822432
>low FOV and slow moving speeds
>awful level design
>no scoreboard
>hard counters
>no modding, custom levels or private servers
>only 6v6
>poor feedback because muh kiddy friendly no gore game
>black box ranking system
>zero balance
>the ultimate system and character mechanics are designed to nullify carrying

Those are the things that come to my mind pretty much instantly. There are propably a dozen more. Overall it is a very mediocre shooter with a shiny exterior that fools dummies and casuals.

I wanna fuck DVa

>>388837654
>The fanbase is fucking awful though, they care more about porn and the relations of the characters than the gameplay. Pathetic people

That's just how it is these days. And if it makes money, expect them to be catered to

>>388837706
I wanna fuck widowmaker but SHEEEEEES just a bunch of pixels

>>388837815
I still don't get why people even buy lootboxes anymore

>>388837815
It doesn't help that a bunch of youtubers/ and twitch streamers are shilling the game 24/7.

>>388835289
The issue you're describing is the result of letting transnigger interns design character

>>388838181
Off topic, but PubG's success really makes me wonder about that shit. Most streamers are so fucking obnoxious too

>>388836805

>Sequel to a game based on the series that more or less codified extensive lore in video game settings
>Using it as an argument that lore doesn't matter

>>388838489
Every streamer except gems like Jerma are obnoxious and bland. Jerma is literally the only youtuber I know that can actually make an entertaining stream.
>Inb4 I get called a Jerma Shill

>personal skill matters very little
That's about it.
It's not bad, just don't play it if you want to play a competitive FPS but aren't already good at FPS games.

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>>388836227
>they actually managed to create a believable and compelling universe where the characters make sense and it's not just a hodgepodge of fantasy tropes tossed in a salad like Battleborn or Gigantic. It's not like the lore is deep or anything, but it feels like the characters make sense and don't merely exist to check off boxes.
>>>Overwatch
what the fuck am I reading

>>388838714
What's your idea of an entertaining stream? I usually just want to see some high level gameplay, some fun banter between players, maybe some good music. I hate overblown chat interactivity. I'm here for the game, not to pretend I have friends

>>388838660
It's a completely different game than Warcraft. Why would Warcraft's use of lore affect DotA in any way.

>>388838714
I'm an admitted Arteezy fangay, no judgement

>>388838878
Not him, but there's a guy called happyhob that's been trying to no-hit every dark souls game for 2 years now and he streams everyday. I find the constant progression and different tactics he employs to be interesting, plus it even keeps you on your seat when he's fighting a difficult boss.
Also he doesn't cheese and is an entertaining person, plus the stream isn't mega popular so there's no cancer in the chat either.

That's a good stream in my opinion. So basically the opposite of normie cancer like Lirik. Jerma is good too though.

>>388839214
Overwatch streamers are ridiculous, I haven't seen one good overwatch streamer.
>Inb4 someone says "ster"
Ster has gotten really douchy and acts like an asshole, he did a complete 180 on his fanbase and disrespects his fans.