why don't you have a daughter?

>>388820550
im 18

That shit will fuck up her eyes. If this is actually you and not some Reddit post then you can go fuck yourself. I hope a nigger rapes your daughter's mom.

Because generations of male first births is rampart in both sides of our family, so we had a son.

Yes, I was disappointed too.

>>388820550
I'm 20 and in university. Not a good fit for my life right now.

Nothing interesting about/in me to pass on

>>388820550
Women don't find me appealing enough to mate with

>>388820676
i bet you also use wii remote wriststraps you baby

I do. 2 infact.

>>388820550
I am 24 just got married working on boys only

Is having daughters the ultimate cuckoldry?

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her stories at bedtime, making her go to sports practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually fuck her in every hole.

Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to fuck her tight pussy every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her.

As a man who has a daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically

The only son or daughter I need is my bank account...
Sorry for sounding like a self centered cunt

>>388820550
Cause my wife only has sons.

>>388821032
only if you want to fuck your daughter you pedo

>>388820972
MODS MODS MODS

>>388820550
Because I enjoy living for myself

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>>388820550

My ex girlfriend had an abortion without my consent. I don't know the sex for sure, but I had a dream that the baby would be a girl and ever since I have been convinced of it. There's not a day that goes by that I don't think about this.

She would be 4 years old if she had been born.

>>388821083
>2017
>not having a daughterwife

>>388820550
Its okay baby, that's just the VR poking you in the bumm.

>>388820550
research has shown that vr is extremerly damaging to minors

>>388821256
I'm sorry, anon.

>>388820550
because me and the bf would rather have dogs

>>388821256
>My ex

She would have been 4 and have a shitty childhood, yes.

>>388821256
It's okay, Anon. Your ex would have made a terrible mother and still would have been given custody.

>>388821256
and instead of moving past it and removing it from your life now its your own personal demon congrats anon welcome to the mentally unhealthy club

>>388821256
If you were <30yo she did you a favor.

>>388821256
so your ex got pregnant Tyron's baby

>>388821241
Do you?
Sometimes I feel like I would be way more motivated to succeed if I were living for someone else. I don't care about myself but I would care about my child, if I had one.

>>388821256
In a fucked up way, you dodged a bullet. You do not want to raise a daughter in this day and age. I know you THINK you do, but you don't.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/quora/how-big-of-an-issue-is-th_b_10229536.html

>"Studies be conducted to ascertain the period of time that an aviator should wait postflight before piloting an actual aircraft or even driving a car."

>Yeah - the US Navy believes that some people shouldn't drive a car within one to two DAYS of being inside a VR environment!

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>>388821256
that sucks, man.

>>388820963

not the same thing really, depth perception is a learned skill, VR and certain 3D applications can mess with it before a certain age, thats why they say not to let kids under 7 use the 3DS too.

>>388821372

Yes you're exactly right

>>388821352
Possibly, with the mother she would have had, but I was 26 making $70k a year, I could have easily afforded to be a single dad.

>>388821374
I've moved past it. I told myself that I would never allow myself to succumb to depression or despair because I have to live for both of us now. It's still painful though, like a scar that never quite fully healed.

>>388821459
>no vidya
But she's playing RE 7, with a VR helmet anon; looks like vidya to me.

>>388821256

Same here anon, she didnt even tell me afterwards either, wasnt till my new girlfriend got preggo that i realised id seen the symptoms before, Messaged her on facebook and she said she just didnt wanna start a big thing about it.

Bitches.

>>388821484
>the US Navy used to believe having their soldiers play Doom was a proper way to train men into resisting the horrors of war

>>388821032
its the best when the dude is some frail as fuck loser drowned in estrogen and bpa, and his daughter is cute as fuck - as soon as she hits puberty some half animal chad twice the size of her stunted dad is going to fuck her into a coma

just imagine all the boyfriends she will bring over, and the dad isnt even an alpha dad who can make him feel awkward because the dude is legit twice his size

>>388821694
>>388821256
>wanting to have a child out of wedlock
are you two mentally ill?

>>388821694
How the fuck does your gfs get accidentally pregnant? Fucking white trash geez.

>>388821769
Not really, the secrecy and lack of trust is what pissed me off most.

>>388821784
>proud of having weak sperm

>>388821032
180

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>>388821750
>Navy
>Soldier

>>388820550
but i have two of them, 2 and 4 years old.

the older one really likes Link and that was her halloween costume for the past two Halloweens.

she often asks me to play Zelda or Witcher 3 while she watches.

the 2 years old one like games too, but it's annoying because she always wants the fucking controller.

>>388821372
this, sadly.

>>388821938
>she often asks me to play Witcher 3 while she watches.

Which is her favourite sex scene?

>>388821938
Are Ya Winnin, Dad?

>>388821870
>Not using contraceptives
If you're using them properly, which even a literal retard can, then the chance of conceiving a child should be less than 1 in 1000 odds.
You literally need to be a complete fucking moron to have a child by accident in modern society.

>>388821114
rude

>>388821938
playing games with kids under ~10 is annoying as fuck usually, all they wanna do is run around in circles and shoot walls, andd theyre usually totally unwilling to figure the mechanics out for themselves.

>>388821769

It wasn't planned but I have always wanted a family. I realize now it wouldn't have been the fairytale family life I've always imagined but I still think about what could have been. The idea of being a daddy to a little girl, to be the superman she looks up to for protection...maybe I'm romanticizing it but it has always appealed to me.

>>388822041
If a bitch says shes on the pill, then im going in raw. Guess Im just unlucky.

>>388822001
but anon, i dont make her watch sex scenes.
are you some kind of fucking degenerate?
i also try to avoid cutting humans in pieces while she's there, but monsters are ok.

>>388822079
i agree.
that's why i like playing games with my oldest daughter, it's fun as fuck and she's super interested. we even did a full OoT playthrough together.

>Currently in America
>Going back to my home country soon
>Got a girl pregnant
>Been pretending to be American the whole time so I had an excuse to practice my American accent
>Didn't use my real name either
>She thinks I'm going to stay and "be a man"
>Leaving the country next week

What do?

>>388822136

so, so ignorant. holy fuck. leave this place, before they make you realise. you deserve better but somebody will spoil that illusion for you in the worst way. especially on 4chan.

>>388822193

Just go. If that's the kind of person you are, that child is better off without you.

>>388822147
But the human males are the REAL monsters.

>>388821938
CROSS DRESSER

MENTALLY ILL!!

Because:
>I don't have my own place
>I don't have a well paying job
>I am still finishing my degree
>I don't have a girlfriend, relationship experience or the will to have any
>I can barely take care of myself
>I can't handle babies
>There is always a chance of getting a son instead of a daughter and I don't feel like raising one
>There is always a chance she will grow up to be a slut or get a nigger lover regardless of my influence in her childhood
All in all, seems like the only option for me os adoption and that mitht be tough as a single white male

>>388822193
Congrats you have an anchor baby. You can now say in America forever.

>>388822247
this is the truth.

>>388822139
Not really, it makes you a retard for entrusting your future to the concept that a woman is telling the truth.

>>388822234

Dood I'm not stupid. I know it's all just a pipe dream. My ex was a bipolar train wreck and would have been a terrible mother.

But sometimes I dream about how it would have been to be a single dad with a little girl as my one and only. It's just a dream.

Someday I'll have a real family and it will all have been worth it.

>>388822317
goddamn, sometimes i forget that the average poster on /v/ is around 13 years old.

>>388822336
But I live in a country with healthcare.

>>388822247
I have a fear of commitment.

>Fucking your daughter gives you more daughters
Why don't you fucking your daughter OP?

>>388822401
>13 year olds have jobs and go to college
Where is this world going, damn

>>388820550
Jews rules the world and they hate whites more than anything (no jews don't see themselves as whites)

Having a child in a society like this is not something I would wish on my worst enemy.

>>388822406

You are scum.

>>388821306
Oh dear

>>388822428
Children born of incest tend to have birth defects. Father daughter incest has like 50% chance of a defect.

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>>388822193
leave, seeds were made to be spread

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>>388820550
I've never loved anyone so I have nobody to have a daughter with.

>>388820550
RNG
Three sons.

>>388820550
Because I'm afraid she'd be too sexy.

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>>388821901
>SEALs aren't Navy anymore

>>388820550
I'm 23. My career is just starting to get off the ground. I'm not having a kid until I'm in my mid-late 30s at least because I want to have paid off my student loans, own a home and have a stable base of complementary income from investments.

I don't plan on throwing any money into the monumental black hole of cash that is children until I can well and truly afford to do so and still retire at a decent age. A child sets you back financially by about 10 years at a minimum due to all the extra expenses draining money you could have saved or invested.

Once my debts are paid and my investment portfolio is good enough to at least make as much money as my job earns me I'm not interested.

>>388822583
I don't want the commitment yet honestly.

>>388822490
How so? It's natural.

>>388820550
I ain't got money for kids.

>>388821380
Fertility falls off hard at 30. Humans are meant to have kids at 15-25. Women at that age have much more difficulty getting pregnant and it gets way worse after that, but lots of complications and birth defects also start to appear with either parent over 30. You could have a kid at 30 if you're planning to have like 1 child and you don't care if he's retarded or exposed to too little testosterone in the womb. If you want a family you have to start much earlier to be able to have multiple children while your wife is still at peak fertility.

The new age conventional wisdom of waiting until 30 is disinformation intended to stop you from having kids. Most people can only ever find out the hard way by turning 35 and deciding to have kids, only to realize they are unattractive, infertile, and have long since imprinted on other people. You are likely to face both biological challenges and extremely unhappiness if you wait to start a family. People rely on hormones to form emotional bonds and women in particular struggle to remain attracted to someone after they've had one or more other men. No woman is going to be a virgin at 35, and the concept of "waiting" invites only the most extreme risk behavior.

If you want:
>1. Healthy or numerous children
>2. A strong, trusting relationship
>3. To feel satisfied with your life and to stop worrying
then waiting until 30 is the most horrible thing you could do to yourself. If you give this up and refuse to settle down, you will never get a chance again. You can try to act out a happy marriage as best you understand one, but it will always be an act since your instincts will be dulled and you will be unable to form the same attachments that usually accompany living together and starting a family. Fucking sluts is not a replacement for marriage, it runs directly in opposition and will fuck everyone involved down the line.

Median income for millennials is 20000

Eat shit

>>388822394
>Someday I'll have a real family
Oh you poor innocent soul, you think in this day and age you'll find a nice girl to have a family with and die together?
All women are thots, and nowadays unless you get an extra ugly autistic NEET girl that plays vidya all day, she won't be a virgin.
Save yourself from the pain of divorce.

>>388822764
How is that relevant for males? They can find a 20 something girl to give birth to their kids and its going to be perfectly healthy.

>>388822851
>what is autism

>>388822764
>wait for ideal conditions and have complications or no kids at all
>start family early and live miserably for at least 20 years
Wow thanks society

>>388822879
Men produce millions of sperm cells for each attempt at making children, they're way less vulnerably to old age issue than women with their limited egg supply.

>>388822764
wtf i wish i had kids when i was 15 now

>>388822851
The birth defects and lost fertility are still an issue. The chances of pregnancy for a couple in their respective primes still only has a mediocre chance of getting pregnant each month.

>>388822879
Autism tends to come from older mothers. Older fathers tend to cause things like schizophrenia and major personality disorders. Also, a lot of women are attracted mainly to the age group of their father as they were growing up so in the long term it's better to be a fit, young man.

>>388822764
>Implying I want a woman involved in my children
I'll have kids whenever the fuck I want and I'll do it myself. I know I can raise kids excellently by myself and getting anyone else involved will just confuse the issue. I don't need women to have or to raise children.

>>388823138
and how exactly are you going to aquire a child mr edgelord

>>388823138
>I don't need women to have children
Then how the fuck are you going to make a child, dumbass? Lab babies aren't that healthy, and i don't think you can magically grow a vagina.
And remember, kids you adopt aren't your kids.

>>388822764
My father was 50 when he made me. I'm dead fucking serious

>>388823208
You can pay a gypsy to get you one
Little gypsy girls are cute and sometimes hot

Because I'm an introvert and I fucking hate kids

>>388823323
>implying she wouldn't just steal someones kid and give it to you

>>388823296
>50
How old was your mum, Anon?
Do you have any illnesses? Autism?

>>388823287
Surrogacy.

>>388823323
>Paying gypsies in any way, shape, or form
Have fun getting scammed and then thrown in jail. Gypsies are scum, they can't be trusted.

>>388823208
>>388823287
Within the next 10 years artificial wombs capable of doing everything a real woman in perfect health and at the ideal age could do (actually able to do it better due to finer, clinical control of what nutrients the child is getting) will exist.
This is not science fiction these devices will exist some time in the next decade. I will use one of those with my sperm combined with a donated egg from a good donor that I will choose to create my child. I will not need a woman to have a child, I just need a donor egg.
According to current ideas on the emerging technology of artificial wombs, the children grown in these wombs will be healthier and better than children made the natural way.

Science - 1
Nature - 0

>>388823464
Red pill me on Gypsies. Why does Europe treat them so well and punish those that don't?

>>388823512
It will be banned for single hetero males

>>388823530
>why does europe treat them so well

You wot m8, they are hated in literally every country they pop up

>>388822917
>start family early and live miserably for at least 20 years
Chemicals in your brain will help offset that. The problem is that most major purchases are made with credit now, lots of insurance is required, and wages have stagnated since the 1950s in spite of everything else becoming more expensive. Anything commonly bought with borrowed money can have its price arbitrarily increased, like house prices, healthcare, tuition, so they have skyrocketed out of control. In the US there are still a lot of places where taxes are low and housing is cheap, but most people there are out of work. There's tons of service jobs in cities but they are also hubs of crime and communities are low-trust, and the wages are garbage with a massive cost of living.

Modern life has been engineered mainly for corporations and welfare recipients. Once upon a time you could start your own business and make a reasonable amount of money, but regulations have pretty much snuffed those out. Extremely small scale lemonade stands and cottage bakeries can turn a profit, but scaling up even slightly costs more than is possible to earn back. You either need to start with millions of dollars to invest or nothing at all. If you're born into a certain tribe though, they are bound by their religion to give you a loan without interest.

If you have kids young, you can at least get some federal assistance. If you wait in order to avoid this, you will be infertile and have difficulty forming relationships. It doesn't help that a lot of people have their priorities messed up and spend a lot of their best years in college doing fuck all, getting tens of thousands of dollars in debt and gaining a worthless piece of paper.

>>388823296
I know someone like you. He was an accident and his siblings are all 15+ years his senior. It's not like you can't get pregnant at that age, but statistically it's less likely to be a success which means you won't have a year or two in between, but massive 5+ year gaps.

>>388823547
It's fine. I will just say that I am homosexual. I don't care if a bunch of people think I'm a homo.

>>388823512
>Egg donor
You still need a woman to get an egg, genius.
Plus I don't think they're going to let any retard and autist be the parent of the children of the future.

>>388822724
>I don't plan on throwing any money into the monumental black hole of cash that is children
but children don't cost that much more money until they're like 5 years old anon.
that's just an excuse you're giving yourself.

>>388823593
I mean the government and I've seen liberals defend them for some fucking reason.

>>388823593
I heard that if Gypsies camped on any land, you weren't allowed to remove them. Also, isn't it supposed to be "politically incorrect" to even call them gypsies?

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>>388823138
>I know I can raise kids excellently by myself

>>388823530
I lived my whole life near gypsies, they're worse than the average nigger. Everybody hates them, and they're avoided by everybody. If it was possible to get rid of them legally, I'm sure no european would want them here.
They pickpocket, murder, scam people, have nasty attitudes, are dirty and unwashed, abuse their children and lovers, use kids as a way to get more money from begging, sell their daughters to other rich gypsies by marriage and far more.

Avoid gypsies at all costs.

>>388823647
They will let me because I am not a retard or an autist. I have a career and am saving up and investing money. By the time this is feasible I will be relatively wealthy and well off, easily view-able as being an ideal and stable parent even if single.

Also, something that artificial wombs will change is that it's strongly predicted that abortions will be outlawed due to the fact that pregnancy is no longer dangerous to the mother because the fetus can be taken out just like in an abortion and put into an artificial womb rather than killed.

The advent of functional artificial wombs will completely dissolve any arguments in favor of abortion being legal that aren't literally "I don't want to pay for this child so can I please just murder it?"

>>388823860
I've seen them on TV shows my parents have watched. They look fucking foul. You guys should be able to remove them by force.

>>388823919
I wish we could
Right now at this moment I'm listening to a gypsy driving his truck and yelling on the speaker: "WE'RE COLLECTING OLD IRON, OLD CARS, OLD STOVES, OLD BATHTUBS" etc. etc.
Why the fuck is this allowed? One day I'll lose it, pop all their tires and beat the shit out of them with a crowbar

>>388824130
They should be treated like the belligerent vagrants they are. It's sad how you guys can't stick up for yourselves. I feel genuinely bad for you guys.

>>388823138
You don't need a woman but the children do. Women are irrationally attached to their children and unconditionally coddle them. Father are usually more "fair and firm" but are still very attached to the children as well. You could say they are unconditionally fair. Both of these things teaches children trust, so they are in equal parts willing to ask for help and strike out on their own.

People don't always live up to these archetypes but that's the idea anyway, and that's how good it can turn out if you do it right. The main thing here is that there are two different people who react differently to the child and provide different things. A man can't adequately replace a mother in her role (since they did not have the same release of oxytocin during birth), and even if he tried one person can't do both roles at once.

>>388823512
Which is why this will never be a good idea. Parental instincts play a huge role in child rearing and a large part of that involves actually having sex and giving birth, but the instincts of the child explicitly require the parents as well. If you've ever seen how a baby without an understanding of object permanence reacts to his mother leaving the room you know what I mean. A typical reaction is inconsolable crying until she returns, after which he will become calm almost immediately.

So in addition to their developmental needs, you develop severe emotional problems if separated from your parents as well. Since your own brain chemicals never get used, orphans typically NEVER form trusting relationships because they are incapable of it. The lack of exposure to oxytocin during childhood means they can't get it as an adult either. This means that in romance they never feel a bond (because the hormone is just never released), they don't get the some euphoria after sex, they are unable to form attachments to their own children, etc.

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>>388820550
Because i'm a 5'5 poor average looking fat dude who would only be able to offer a girl my love and the promise that i'd be able to get a job where I make several thousand dollars a month but because I don't HAVE that job yet and I live in California aswell as all of those other aesthetic problems about me I don't have a girl from this local area who wants to be with me.

I've been thinking about a long distance relationship tho i've met very nice girls non shallow girls in middle america and asia.

>inb4 go back to /r9k/