Did EDGE get it right?

>>388815048
It's personally my #1, so yeah, I guess.

Not sure about the review but do weapons ever stop breaking? It's annoying the hell out of me

>>388815048
No, what the fuck

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It's not even the game of the year.

>>388815048
not the greatest but the best game I've played this year

>>388815285
Finish Hard Mode and the Champion DLC with 900 seeds and all shrines and divine beasts and the complete encyclopedia and your weapons become unbreakable.

Yes. This is the OOT of a new generation.

Wake me up in 10 years when even one single other open world game has caught up to BOTW.

>>388815048
It's their opinion so who cares

Last year EDGE listed Ocarina OF Time as the Greatest Game Of All Time. This year it dropped to #9.

I'm not saying BotW isn't amazing, but I think games like this need some time and distance to bed themselves into the gaming landscape so we can properly reflect on it, no?

>babies first skyrim
>greatest of anything
Yeah OK pal.

>>388815285
hold L + R for two weeks and you get a unbreakable sword and infinite arrows

BotW3 will be when the BotW formula really finds itself.

>>388815482
that's fair

>>388815643
skyrim is babies first elder scrolls
choke on that dummy

>>388815963
elder scrolls is babbys first kings quest
beat that, faggot

Of course. Even Icycalm loves it and he fucking hates Nintendo and Zelda.

>>388815389
>This is the OOT of a new generation.
no it's not. oot was revolutionary. this is more open world garbage. nintendo is held to a lower standard so when they do something slightly above average it's like everyone cheering when the babby uses the toilet for the first time

>>388815048
Such sad times to be alive in which that kind of cheap ass game gets best game of all time.

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>>388815643
>babies first skyrim
BotW treats the player with more respect and intelligence - and it ultimately far more sophisticated in it's design - than just about every other open world game.

Good luck trying to refute that.

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No, they did not.

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>>388816178
>that kind of cheap ass game

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>>388816230
>BotW treats the player with more respect and intelligence - and it ultimately far more sophisticated in it's design - than just about every other open world game.
>Good luck trying to refute that.

>>388816172
This

>>388815315
This is the absolute state of console gaming.

>>388816237
>posts the best choice on the list.
Explain.

>>388815048
Depends.
Can you kill cacodemons with double-barreled shotgun in this game?

>>388815048
That LOD is disgusting

I love how mad NeoGA/v/ gets from this game

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It's been 6 months since this game came out and /v/ still isn't over it
what a ride

Yes, but only because almost all video games are shit

>>388817419
This.

>>388815048
I yet have to try it. Seems cool though.

When it comes to exploration (the thing that interest my the best in 3D games), my two favorites games today are Bloodborne and Dishonored 2. I'm really curious to see how Nintendo takes on the open-world formula, since exploration is ususally shit-tier in those games (Witcher 3, Infamous, AssCreed etc).

>>388816995

They said game, not movie, Sonybro.

>>388815048
wtf is edge?
they are nobody so my answer is no they did not get it right

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>>388817763
Edge magazine is a gaming periodical that has been published in the UK since 1993.

>>388817763
I bet you probably ask who TIME magazine are too.

>>388817763
They're one of the world leading vidya publications. When EDGE say something, people sit up.

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>>388815458

>>388816172
>oot
>revolutionary

top kek
Every time I ask how, all I get is i-it was 3d and c-c-content sensitive action button! and other nonsense.

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>>388820098

You're so young you're probably oblivious to how utterly fucking broken 3D platforming and 3rd person adventure games were until Nintendo pretty much laid out the rules with Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time.

Observe:

>Z-targeting is an ingenious and eloquent solution to real-time 3D combat. You could strafe, skip around your opponent, block, parry, backflip, use an item from your inventory - all without it ever becoming confusing. Go back and look at early Playstation games and realise how FUCKED 3D gaming was before ooT.

>The genius inclusion of the companion fairy, who would point things out, drop hints and offer comfort to the player (bearing in mind this was when playing in 3D was new and could have easily overwhelmed the player).
>Or what about the secluded forest opening portion of the game. A brilliant piece of game design which acts as a tutorial sectional making (at that time) a relatively complex control scheme as second nature as breathing by the time you step out into the full game world?
>What about the entire fucking control pad doubling as a musical instrument and weaved into the gameplay?
>Context sensitive controls. Every other game tried to include a button for EVERY action. Nintendo gave you ONE button to press - it's use changing depending on the situation. They even removed the need for a jump button. All of this is innovative design which frees the player's mind from doing the donkey work so they can concentrate on more complicated issues and just plain ENJOY the game.
>Even simple things like using the in-game graphics engine for cut scenes so that the player doesn't lose immersion.

All of this shit might seem obvious game design 101 now but thats only because devs have stood on the shoulders of giants for the past 20 years. It still doesn't excuse your complete fucking ignorance.

I think it's a brilliant game and the best this year.

We cant rightly call anything from this generation GOAT because there hasn't been enough time to reflect on it. It might not hold up well in the future. The classics are classic not just because they were good back in the day, but because they stilll hold up more than 10 or 20 years later.

>>388820485
What? My first video game was Prince of Persia on MS-DOS. None of those things impressed me, I was already playing Quake and Tomb Raider at the time. None of these things were revolutionary in the least bit.

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>>388820485
Here's what Edge magazine had to say at time.

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>>388821360

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>>388817264
Wait till Dlc arrives

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And an unrelated EGM preview before OoT was released

>The simplicity of its design, allowing action buttons to be context sensitive while also allowing a camera "lock-on" to make viewing the battles easier will no doubt be copied in other "Zelda wanna-bes" before the end of the year.

>>388821360
Cool, thanks bro.

I guess over the next few months, we'll lots of year end awards being handed to BotW. Nintenbros are going to insufferable.

someone post the entire top 100

>>388821360
>>388821775
trashy american writing style compared to articulate and graceful british writing

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>>388816237
Nice meme. This game is trash. Go back to NeoGAF.

>>388821775
Gonna have to check out that pocket monsters RPG.

>>388815048
I liked it a lot but it's one of those games I feel like you can only ever play once

>>388823383
I thought that too, I didn't even really bother with master mode until i was on vacation last week and felt i'd give the game another shot. the only part that i really found annoying to do again was the great plateau, other than that it still feels adventurous and enjoyable. give it some time and you'll probably enjoy a replay, just play with your brain off and just go wherever your first instincts take you to and you'll enjoy it.

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>>388822040
No worries. I'm not even OoT's biggest fan, I just find retro gaming magazines fun to reread. At the time, I just found it a bit of a let down since it wasn't like the NES games I loved. My best friend was super into it. I almost got sick of hearing Gerudo Valley because of him.

Here's Nintendo Power's review of it. Funny enough, while it has the higher score, Turok 2 in the same issue had the higher average. Also,
>8.8

No. It's good but not that good.

>>388815048
no it lacks the soul of other zelda games

>>388815048

>muh Zelda
>muh triforce
>omg best game ever I'm such a gamer omg
No, if you killed every single person that has a boner for OoT the reviews would be completely different. It's a good game but it doesn't deserve all the praise it gets, it's culturally acceptable to like Zelda games and it's become a part of pop culture, if you took away Link and the name Zelda and just called the game "Breath of the Wild" it would be a 75 at best.

>>388823159
The gulf in education and class between Great Britain and USA is pretty worrying.

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>>388823989
No, if you killed every single person that has a boner for SMB3 the reviews would be completely different. It's a good game but it doesn't deserve all the praise it gets, it's culturally acceptable to like Mario games and it's become a part of pop culture, if you took away Mario and the name Toadstool and just called the game "Star Quest 64" it would be a 75 at best.

>>388824117

SMB3 was great, Super Mario 64 is still shit.

>>388815048
based EDGE working neofaggots into a shoot

"/v/ cries over botw" should be a sticky

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>>388826205
It practically is.

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>>388823705
it doesn't unless you're a faggot

>>388815315
I know you are trolling but I'm 100% sure there are small kids in the world that actually think this and it's fucking scary to think that in a few years time they can make their own purchasing decisions.

>>388815048
It's a good game but nowhere near the greatest.
Truth is the game feels amazing for the first 20-30 hours or so. After that you start to realize you've been doing the same thing over and over again and there isn't actually that much to discover or do. From that point on you just keep playing just to finish it which can feel like chore at times. After you do beat it there's not much reason to go back and do everything all over again.
having said that the game does tons of things right. Combat works well and is more than serviceable. The breaking of weapons is a good system to keep you thinking ahead. The implementation of the physics and use of the elements is probably the best we've seen in any open world game yet.

But when it comes to replay value it's got to score a lot higher to consider it the best game ever.

>>388815361
That just sounds like a huge chore.

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>>388815048
>FOUR 15-minutes long dungeons
>120 useless shrines
>braindead puzzles with occasional "MUH PHYSICS" meme
>terrible bossfights
>no music
>LITERALLY NO FUCKING MUSIC 95% OF TIME
>no musical instrument
>false advertisement in the trailers
>everything interesting happened 100 years ago
>lack of enemies variety
>durability for rare weapons
>bows and rods durability
>Kaas is straight
>20 fps in general
>imbecile pig as a final boss
>there are actually nothing to explore, each building is empty, Korok Seeds and shrines everywhere
>97/100
Jesus Christ

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>>388815048
The entire list was fucking trash, any list that contains Pong or Tetris in the list are automatically trash.

TLoU and Unchartered doesn't belong in the top 30 of the best games of all time and BotW is the same.

>>388830224
Jesus christ this pasta is old as fuck

>>388815361

Your dad works at Nintendo too?

>>388830252
You are trash. Pong is literally the best game ever created

>>388830328
>le first gaem

putting Pong in the list of best games of all time is like putting the Wheel in the list of best cars of all time, only underage retards who haven't played more than 30 games will put Pong in their top 10s.

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>>388815048
>this entire top 100 list
absolutely casual and pure nerd-signaling and it makes me mad

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>>388830416
>first=bad meme
Also the first actual car created is dope and classy as fuck

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>>388815048
>Greatest game of all time
>Came out this year
What is hype?

>>388830127
/bread

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>>388815048
They got a lot of things wrong because of their criteria but BotW is number one, yeah. Neofags were really butthurt by it.

>>388815048
>Edge
Into the trash it goes.

>>388830184
He taking the piss.

It's only 6 months old. Give it enough time and people will be able to talk reasonably about it without fanboys screaming.

Like when Twilight Princess got the infamous 8.8.
A few years later it was "yeah, that game should've been lower than 8.8 desu"

>>388830224
Autism

>>388830513
BotW is a rare example of a game living up to the hype.

>>388830252
>>388830458
Autists SEETHING

>>388815048
Isn't that owned by the guy who sues everyone for using the word Edge in their titles? He got his shit pushed in when he tried to sue EA for Mirror's Edge

BotW did a very good job in showing just how many people play games only for the Skinner's Box. The idea that exploration can be fun for its own sake without a LOOTBOX WITH A FUCKING SICK LUCIO SKIN WHOA is just completely foreign to a disturbing number of people.

>>388816810
Can you tell me the state of PC gaming?

>>388831141
I bet you and your "the exploration IS the reward, maaaan" attitude loved No Man's Sky.

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>>388823257
At least it loads the level you are in.

>>388830989
Played TPHD last year, first time I ever played the game. Thought it was solid entertainment. 8.8/10 seems about right.

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>>388815315
Yas queen!

>>388831248
t. achievement whore

Why are people still mad about BOTW being good?

calling it the greatest game of all time is a joke, i give it a solid 7, its not even the best game I played all year let alone fucking ever

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>>388831630
It's good new openworld IP.
It's terrible 4/10 Zelda game.

>>388831248
Except No Man's Sky wasn't fun because the gameplay and mechanics were shit.

>>388831630
Because autistic faggots like to throw a fit over everything

>>388831394
there's not caring about diversity and then there's going to neogaf to screencap people that do and complaining that they do. Why bother?

>>388815315
BOTW is just Zero Dawn with worse graphics but better graphics and less flaws overall

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>>388831630
This is why

>>388815048
Why are low IQ people given such a big voice

>>388831630
people are mad because critics are calling it THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME!

it's called the hype backlash, every overrated game gets one.

>>388831797
It's the best zelda game.

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>>388831630
People will still be foaming at the mouth over BotW 10 years from now.

After a year-long hate campaign, /v/ got hilariously BTFO when it became clear that many were touting BotW as one of the best games ever made.

It's another feather in the cap for Nintendo - a reassurance that they are still at the cutting edge of game design.

It singlehandedly launched the Switch which has become a global phenomenon in just a few months.

Of course /v/ is assblasted about it. That sting is going nowhere soon.

>>388831904
But you've never been given a big voice, retard.

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>>388815048
Nah.
In fact I'm pretty angry about this.

>huge Nintendo and Zelda fan
>had more fun with nearly every other not-unplayable open world game like Mad Max, AC: Black Flag, MGSV or even Skyrim, let alone the good ones like XCX

Oh and Saint's Row 2 is so vastly superior to BotW it's not even funny anymore.

>>388815048
It's amazing at first, then gets tedious and repetitive. The best thing BotW does is make you feel like exploring, only to inevitably disappoint. The scenery is the best thing about the game.

>>388832089
Stay mad faggot :^)

>>388832105
I dropped it when I found out what it was actually all about. Fucking /v/ ruining everything!

I did two of the weapons and will probably finish the other two then head for the castle.
But once you understand that there's only shrines, seeds and that side-quests are ultimately meaningless it does lose a lot of its magic.

>>388830127
I agreed with this up until you said the combat works well. The combat is worthless. It's needless fluff that only perpetuates a cycle of breaking and acquiring weapons. You can beat all the bosses in the game with no trouble without ever having engaged a normal enemy. It doesn't help that combat has no risk, no meaningful reward, is extremely easy to cheese, the enemy variety is horrible, the movesets are limited, and enemies simply become damages sponges late game, making them even less worth it.

>>388815285
I honestly think the durability system is not even that bad, but I also played Dead Rising which has pretty much almost the exact same system, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it

I think the Master Sword should actually be infinite, because it's not even particularly strong except in boss fights or against guardians, where it will never break on you anyway because you just kept it safe waiting for those particular situations to arrive, it's kinda pointless that it breaks, because it just recharges anyway and it feels kinda dumb that the legendary sword gets dull as quickly as a normal ass sword

but I don't really mind all the other weapons breaking, because after some korok seeds you can have such a big inventory and there are so many weapons, it's ridiculous that some people struggle because of this. If all weapons were unbreakable you would just stick with one weapon all the time until you find a stronger version of it, and that would take something from the game, there is a certain feel of decay to the whole world and the weapons all getting dull kinda reflects that and you would also be less likely to experiment with all different types of weapons

>>388831630
because it's made by nintendo and nintendo is supposed to be shit

>>388832445
Same. I managed to beat two divine beasts, then just completely lost interest. Even the lead up to the divine beasts felt extremely formulaic and far too similar to one another.

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>>388832625

>>388832469
>enemies simply become damages sponges late game
I never found this to really be a problem since you never seem to run out of high level weapons at that point.
Hero mode however is fucking shit. Then they do truly turn into damage sponges with regenerating health on top which just makes the gameplay even more tedious.

>>388832018
> foaming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA2tpPl-9GQ

>>388832018
The game has no legs. It's flaws only become more apparent the longer you play. 10 years from now, people will view it as an average Zelda game, and the first in the series to take it in this new direction, if they decide to stick with it.
I really hope the next game is a vast improvement.

>>388815048
if it's the greatest game ever then why did they only give it 12.75 out of 27 hearts?

>>388815482
Pretty much this. It's too early to call it anything other than Game Of The Year at this point. Ask again in 5 years and we'll see where BotW lands on EDGE's list.

>>388833101
Must a game last you 100+ hours for it to be good?

Especially when zelda games usually last 20hours or so, and are usually chores to replay/100%. Only zelda worth replaying is MM

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>>388832908

>only fighting game is USF4

They can fuck themselves.

>>388832908
I want my 10mn back.

thread makes me want to go and play BotW. Later faglords!

>>388833582
It's better than your favorite fighting game faggot. Deal with it.

>>388833478
It has nothing to do with how long the game is or whether you play for 100+ hours or 20. Its your perception of it during that time. It's why you'll often hear criticism somewhere along the lines of "the first 20 or so hours was great, but then I lost interest".

>>388834231
Ah I understand now, although I never felt that way

>>388831970
I respectfully beg to differ.

>>388833362
You'll be dead in 5 years so it doesn't matter.

>>388834231
Doesn't apply to BotW though. Its biggest strength is the freedom so it's basically as long as you want it to be.

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>>388832089
You're a minority nigger. Learn your place.

s a g e

no matter what game they put as best of all time, people would throw a shitfit.

>>388815315
https://youtu.be/aVPXKdSEGNQ

>muh next gen

>>388815048
Eh, probably. Not my personal #1 of all time.

>>388815048
Objectively no, the game is not perfect, it has a awful weapon system ,poor VA and music, repetitive side quests and a weak, predictable story BUT just like MGSV it has great gameplay and mechanics. Not perfect and absolutely not 'great' but it is good.
Only fanboys will ignore the negatives

>it's a good game but not a good zelda game

Probably the most autistic non-argument applied by nostalgia faggots. The worst part is that these type of faggots pollute every single major fanbase out there.

>>388815048
Dark Souls should've been #1.

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yes

>>388835392
BOTW shouldn't even been top 10.

>>388834947
By the time I got bored with the game, I had absolutely no desire to take on Ganon. Especially knowing how disappointing he was as a boss and how anticlimactic the overall ending is.
I had already dicked around in hyrule castle and cheesed my way to his room early on, I simply did not care enough to bother.

It's also pretty clear that the meat of what you're supposed to be doing is freeing the divine beasts, so while missing shrines is one thing, skipping divine beasts just doesn't feel right.

>>388815482
The fact it has all the hallmarks of bad open world games (Collectathons/Lifeless world etc) you would think it would have reviewed as such, but its Zelda name literally elevates it. If it had any other name it would have been 7/10 across the board

>>388835253
Who are you quoting

>>388831836
Hello neofaggot

>>388815482
and the year before it was Dark Souls.

>>388835431
>skipping divine beasts just doesn't feel right
But that's why it's so great. You have the freedom to do whatever you want. That's why it's the best game ever.

>>388835619
>it's the best game ever because you can skip 99% of it
Not sure if serious

>>388815482
>Last year

Last time it was dark souls. OoT topped their charts a decade ago you lying faggot.

>>388835683
What are you unsure about?

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>>388835109
DELET THIS

>>388815048
>#99 is Her Story
No and anyone who takes that list seriously should head back to neogaf

>>388835109
Jesus Christ, I would never call BotW the best game of all time but these comparison videos show just how far ahead Nintendo's mindset, design philosophy and talent is compared to everyone else in the industry.

>>388835109
>Aloy is so strong she can make arrows reach escape velocity
Link BTFO

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>>388815048
>copypasted shrines
>16 enemy variety
>"exploration" with nothing at the end
>childish combat system
>gimmick physics that you stop caring after trying once

>>388815048
I like this game, but no, not even close, not even the best zelda.

>>388837921
See >>388816230

>>388838307
>opinion with zero points to back it up
>good luck trying to refute that
Solid rebuttal

>>388838648
>opinion with zero points to back it up
>good luck trying to refute that
>solid rebuttal

terrible rebuttal

>>388838843
Learn how to recognize the difference between fact and opinion. It is a fact that they stated an opinion with zero evidence to back it up, thus making it a terrible rebuttal. Try again.

>>388833478
>>388833101
The funny thing is the game DOES last you 100+ hours. I'm only around 80 and i still have 30-something shrines to discover. The new hero's journey function really showed how much of the map, somehow, i still barely touched. I'd take a screenshot but can't right now

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>>388835109
I refuse to believe this is real

>>388833940
>load up game after maybe 2 months off
>oh right Korok Forest, master sword and all that
>oh nice Korok Trials, something different
>nothing different just shrine quests that are more mind-numbingly boring than usual
>finish all 3 trials
>Give me my fucking reward!
>literally get some mushrooms I can use for cooking

So I turned the game off and now I'm back here. I'll get back to it in an hour or so. I just need to pound it into my fucking head that side-quests are worthless.

>>388839379
The reward is three more shrines so you can be closer to another Heart Piece to draw the Master Sword

>>388838648
>zero points to back it up

That anon is completely right. BotW has no handholding whatsoever. Even major mechanics of the game arn't explained. It's up to you to discover and learb by yourself. The game offers one objective: beat the bad guy in the castle, and lets you decide how you will go about doing it. It gives the player an unparalleled amount of freedom to explore without checkmarking everything in your map - every discovery is a personal one.

A foundation of player agency and complete freedom, married with a myriad of seamlessly interconnected systems of environmental interaction - where the weather, climate and environment are directly tied to the gameplay choices.

You will never be able to argue that anon's point; BotW is on a different level to everything else. You desperately want to call it a kiddie game because you have no argument and want to sound like a cool guy. But the glaringly obvious truth is that the design in BotW makes every other open world game look like infantile nonsense by comparison.

>>388835538
>bad open world games
Care to cite examples of "good" open world games?

>>388815048
honestly you must not play many video games if BotW is the best game you've ever played. I literally haven't even booted up my wii u since I beat it at launch

>>388840389
Yeah, I'm pretty sure EDGE magazine doesn't play much vidya.

>>388838946
>Learn how to recognize the difference between fact and opinion

Said the hypocritical cuck who gets triggered about Edge's list.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tax4e4hBBZc

This was GOTY for 2011
And both deserve it regardless of their flaws no game is perfect but some are amazing for the strides they've made.

The only ones I never understood was TLOU and Uncharted since they might be well polished and good games but they did absolutely nothing new, and a story alone should give a GOTY

>>388840609
I don't think Uncharted won any GOTY?

>>388831256
I played the game for 80 hours+ and never had anything like this happen even once. Bloodborne is way jankier than BotW.

>>388840743
If we're talking just the "GOTY" title on it's own it won 10 awards.

Considering it's ranging from Gamespot to NeoGAF I don't really see the creditably of it compared to something like Portal 2 that deserved all the attention it got.

>>388841150
Oh yeah, always forget the "GOTY" title is completely arbitrary. Even fucking Fallout 4 got a "game of the year" rerelease

>>388815048
yes

>>388841381
Even thief 4.

>>388820098
t. 12 years old

>>388841150
This is just the beginning. BotW will probably scoop every major award this year and the shit posting will never end.

Greatest game of all time, if I'm not shit posting probably goes to GTA 4

>>388840059
You could literally swap out BotW for any early access open world garbage game on steam and your praise would still fit perfectly.

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>>388815048
No.

>>388842860
Name a single game with the level of design sophistication which BotW has then.

>>388832576
>you just kept it safe waiting for those particular situations to arrive
I think lots of people use it to break rocks and cut trees.

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>>388843012
>castlevania 1 is his favourite

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>>388815048

How can this game possibly compete with Witcher 3?

I just don't understand. Compelling stories, characters, and setting with decent combat beats out superior gameplay every time.

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>>388843012
That ain't no Super Castlevanis IV.

>>388843145
Do you realize how arbitrary of a request that is? There are open world early access games with everything you praised BotW for, with fully destructible environments, completely open ended crafting and building, multiplayer, character customization, etc. etc.
If you think BotW is great for the reasons you gave, you need to play more video games.

>>388843365
Game Design. Thats how.

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People have been saying it since launch

>>388815048
I have over a thousand hours in the game, so yeah I can agree.

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>>388843365
Because of stuff like this.

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>>388843365
>I just don't understand. Compelling stories, characters, and setting with decent combat beats out superior gameplay every time.

>>388843619
I regret being hyped by webms like this.

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The shrines are all one puzzle/single roo-

>>388843365
>decent combat
>W3
...

>>388843498
>thinking nintenbros play non ninty games
theres a reason they keep spouting the TECHNOLOGY and INOVAHSHUN memes.

>>388815048
>find 4 new shrines
>3 of them are major tests of strength
what a waste

Zelda breath of the wild is a tablet game.

>>388844901
You're still getting a spirit orb. Plus you don't have to play any of the shrines of you don't want to you moosey-faced cunt. That's why there's over 100 of them.

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>>388844582
keep crying

>>388843559
97 bruv
Or do you all still like to pretend that 60 review doesn't exist?

I wouldn't even be so mad that shrines are the only thing you will ever get as a reward, it's that mostly there's fuckall in there where you could at least put some more cool armor.
I remember being nearly at the end of the game and wanting to explore some more before going up against ganon and coming across the spring of wisdom. I remembered there were 2 other springs and thought this will reward some nice armor sets somehow connected to the goddesses/triforce. Nope here have another ice sword that will break in 5 minutes.
That was the point where I lost all the enthusiasm for the game. It was a fun ride until then but kinda left me a little disappointed. I feel like most of the people who gave it a 10/10 only clocked in 40 hours or so and where still in the honeymoon phase.

>>388847247
You mean from clickbait cuck sterling? lol

>>388815048
Why not.
It's for sure the most jaw-dropping title I played in the last 10 years or more.

>>388818009
>>388818248
like i said, nobody

UK magazine lol

>>388818184
time magazine is a joke but only north americans would know of it

>>388815643

Skyrim is baby's first Zelda

>>388815048
>calling a game GOAT just because it came out recently and has metric tons of fandom hype behind it

Literally the same type of cancer as Undertale. Ocarina of Time has aged pretty poorly, but if you look at it as a product of its time, it really does deserve to be highly regarded. BotW is still very new and it doesn't do remotely anything as important as OoT did in today's gaming landscape

Greatest game of the generation probably. Unless Odyssey somehow manages to top it.

Edge said that? Well, they're pretty sharp. BoTW is the perfect example of a videogame. It's not my favourite, though.

>>388848524
>I feel like most of the people who gave it a 10/10 only clocked in 40 hours or so and where still in the honeymoon phase.
Professional reviewers would've blitzed through it and got the best experience possible due to time restraints. BotW is a very, very front heavy game. It's practically perfect for reviews.

>>388815048
It made a whole gameplay design choice people had praised ad nauseam look like it was done by nothing but hack frauds before Breath of the Wild came along. That doesn't make it the greatest game of all time, it just means those other games suck. Its other shortcomings like lack of enemy variety and an overabundance of underdeveloped shit-ass shrines are mitigated by its world design.

>>388849136
>UK magazine lol
They have the most revered and respected journalism in the world.
>time magazine is a joke but only north americans would know of it
Are you really that fucking stupid? I knew about publications like TIME magazine when I was pre-school child. And I'm British.

>>388831836
>BOTW is just Zero Dawn with worse graphics
They're almost total opposites with how they approached exploration in world design, what the fuck are you on about? Its actual opposite is Witcher 3 though
>One has bad world design but substantial side quests
>One has bad side quests but substantial world design

>>388850070
knew aboot a grown up mag when you were 5 years old

ok there goober

>>388850530
Yeah because Toht is reading a copy in Raiders Of The Lost Ark. So fuck you.

>>388850692
watching and remembering a scene from a movie at age 5

lol no

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>this shit
>greatest game of all time
Just how underage and/or new to video games does someone have to be to actually believe this? It's an objective 7.8, which is good.

>>388851105
>shantaefag
>doesn't play their game just wanks over the screen
>thinks their opinion matters

>>388843619

>you slip on wet mountains!
>lightening strikes metal!
>you can cut grass and trees!
>you can cook!

Okay but what do I actually do in the game when Im not wasting time making hype webms?

>uh
>you can cook!
>combat is literally the worst and most bland combat ever designed for a video game ever!
>wait...
>i mean to say that you have to switch weapons on a constant basis and thats makes it hardcore and tactical!

>>388850908
I have hazy memories of watching star wars at age 3.

nope, Uncharted 4 is #17 I think? I hated playing that game so much. They aim for realism everytime but whenever a shooting section is going to happen, all of a sudden you are in a place filled with explosive barrels and ropes, weird rock structures and tall grass because stealth, you know, things that actually makes you feel like you are playing a game so you forget that you spent 30 minutes listening to banters. There's also the fact that cutscenes are disguised as platform sections to keep the banter and story going, so you're just pushing forward and smashing the jump button to move onto the next shooting gallery or set piece.

>>388844573

Breath of the Wild...The only game that can make Witcher 3s combat look fun.

>/v/ still triggered about this

we had two threads that reached bump limit about this topic yesterday. give it up faggots

>>388851378
I have hazy memories of being inside a vagina.

>>388851364
Honestly, I don't understand your hyperbolic butthurt.

>>388851456
No one is triggered about it. Edge is a magazine with shit taste. Everyone knows the best game of all time is Metal Gear Solid.

Zelda Breath of The Wild isn't even the best game that came out this year.

>every BotW thread is exactly the same thing
>no matter how calm, rational, or well thought-out a critical post is, the responses are ALWAYS "hahaha sonybros are so triggered u jelly nintendo has the best game :^)))))))))))"
Why bother with these threads? Nintendo fanboys can't be reasoned with and everyone else knows BotW was just okay.

>>388841069
jankier as in it actually gets people hard instead of soft

>>388851778
It literally goes both ways and it isn't just Nintendo fanboys.

-Shit non-story.
-Worst combat the world has ever known.
-Ubisoft towers.
-Pointless busywork content like koroks to waste your time.
-Horrible graphics (Not a graphics whore but its part of the experience)

+Some interesting little things to do
+I hesitate to say a lot of "content" but there's a lot of random copy-pasted stuff throughout the world to take up your time that really has no point, I suppose thats sort of good if you think a game has to have tons of hours of content, even if that content is vapid

>>388815048
No. BotW clearly had the advantage of being the most recent excellent game. If TW3 came out after BotW it would be #1 I guarantee it.

>>388851628

>has no counter points

I don't expect you to understand, my child.

>>388851778
>muh nintentoddlers boogeyman

nice bias you have there, faggot.

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>>388851743
Yeah I know right brother, when will Vroom in the Night Sky be finally recognized as GOTY. They say true masterpieces aren't appreciated in their time.

Its a shit Zelda game but it gets a lot of love because its the only open world game to shake up the traditional formula in- well. Ever.

Dark Souls got big for a similar reason, it was a breath of fresh air in a stagnant industry

>>388851604
Me too, on Saturday. I was pretty wasted.

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How exactly is this supposed to be game of the year, let alone of all fucking time?! It might be the best open world game, but it's still an open world game, which makes it shit by default, because it all comes down to traversing a huge, empty sandbox while repeating the same 5-6 monotonous tasks for literal dozens of hours.

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>>388852042

>yfw this guy called his own fanbase nintenbros

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>>388843012
I prefer CV3 but I won't argue against 1

>>388852030
There's no need to provide a counter point to someone who uses memearrows and can't type like a proper person.

>>388852194
>empty space

not an argument.

>>388852150

Here's the thing though...It didnt really do that. What did it to do SHAKE IT UP? All it did that is unique to itself is make the combat somehow worse than the already bare-bones combat of Zelda games, and add some cool, but still very minor little details that make for good webms and advertising.

>>388831165
BTFO

Why do numales praise this game so much? It's among the worst Zelda games.

>>388852150
>it shook up a traditional formula by copying the most stale and popular modern rpg of all time
:thinks:

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>>388852326
>"There's no need to provide a counter point to someone who uses memearrows and can't type like a proper person."
>tfw

>cant argue against my point
>ad hominems

>>388852194
but dude korok seeds and shrines lmao

So many exciting things to find.

>>388852690

Because girls who suck dick at video games like it and the men honestly think they will get laid by forcing themselves to share interests.

>>388815048
Edgy is the biggest hive of pretentious snobs in any video game journalistic wank. They give anything that doesn't meet their loft self devised standards of "wow so kino" shitty 2/10 scores even if they're perfectly playable titles. I tend not to take retards like them too seriously.

>>388815048
No, the game was the most boring game I played this year. Yakuza 0 was miles ahead for example. I even had more fun with Prey.

People are just delusional by all the nostalgia, marketing hype, free Switch consoles and have minimal exposure to gaming in general. Subnautica has a more interesting concept and world for example and its not even finished.

I wanted to like Zelda, but the content is shit, and all the gameplay is incredible uninvolved and boring. It quickly becomes a chore to play.

>>388832018
>It singlehandedly launched the Switch which has become a global phenomenon in just a few months.
The heavy handed advertising did this. Most people are over Zelda already.

Still not selling nearly as well as the PS4 and probably never will though.

>>388853174
>People are just delusional by all the nostalgia, marketing hype, free Switch consoles and have minimal exposure to gaming in general.

Please don't refer to Nintendo fans as people. We use the term subhuman trash here.

>>388838307
>player respect means having to make your own "fun" because Nintendo is too lazy to make any meaningful content

You guys bash early access survival games for the same issues.

>>388844573
Seriously? breath of the wild combat is shit.

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BoTW is a front heavy game, I wont deny that. The world's rewards are a bit iffy as well. That 67th shrine certainly doesn't feel as good as the first 10 did. The rewards are similar, where the first flame sword feels amazing, while the 8th feels like something you need to make inventory room for at most. Getting specialized pieces of armor like the climbing gear feels great, but there's simply not enough of those types of shrines compared to the total. Korok seeds are a touch I actually dont mind, since they probably didnt take up all too much dev time to make.


However, you have to be a completely jaded shit not to enjoy the game as a whole. The dungeon's it has feel great, the bosses feel great, the world design puts open world games to a standard I'm not quite sure will be met again in the near future. "crafting" feels fluid and intuitive. Physics feel rewarding. The last game to really impress me with these touches was MGS2 with the melting ice and whatnot. I can throw an egg into a boiling lake and hardboil it. I can make a makeshift wire out of metal weapons. I can steal a camp's weapons to make them resort to throwing rocks. Whats better is that these changes aren't just fluff. They fundamentally change the way you play the game.

BoTW might not be my goty but its just retarded to call the people who enjoyed the game marketers and shills, especially when the game has been out for months.

>>388815048
>game teaches you that you can go everywhere you like
>higher level enemies that will instant rek you are everywhere
WEW

>>388822907
This will come to pass because the menstruating snowflake shitposts absolutely dwarf any positive comments about the game and im excited for the months you contrarian children will have your mouth-breathing faces rubbed in it.

>>388854070
>However, you have to be a completely jaded shit not to enjoy the game as a whole
I enjoyed part of the game. I got sick of it two divine beasts in, put the game down, and have no desire whatsoever to pick it back up. The great plateau and cheesing my way to ganon early on was easily the highlight of my entire experience.

>>388854070
This a rare balanced and fair post.

>>388815315
Horizon Zero Dawn:

>First scene is literally a white male getting scolded by stronk womyn and avoiding eye contact and falling to his knees apologizing profusely
>Every white male is portrayed as some incompetent pussy who needs to be saved, a drunk or a villain
>Main character is of course drawn towards the BBC
>MUH MATRIARCHY

I usually don't care that much about this sort of shit in vidya, but this feminist propaganda was literally hamfisted down your throat from the moment you pressed play.

There's a reason why there basically have been no noteworthy women throughout history, and there's a reason why in the animal kingdom the male is always the leader and the one who gets shit done. Unless you're born a spider cuck i guess or some other insect, if there's any spiders out there you have my condolences.

>>388854070
>>388854070
>The dungeon's it has feel great, the bosses feel great,
I can't agree at all

>he world design puts open world games to a standard
See my issue with their idea of world design is interesting LOOKING set pieces, but they often boil down to find the shrine or put ball in hole. Visually stimulating, but not really impactful presence.

Most of the game you find yourself running through empty areas or climbing, this is literally 85% of your time in this game, mindlessly doing nothing but holding forward.

The crafting is entirely basic, I wouldn't place it above any common survival game.

The physics engine is cool, agreed, but they never do enough with it to incorperate it into gameplay beyond gimmicks. There's never a need to kill something with a rock where I can just easily swing my sword with the simple and easy combat.

>They fundamentally change the way you play the game.
But they don't. They offer different means to MAYBE solve a shrine puzzles (all of them are easy as hell), but otherwise, did melting ice cubes in MGS2 help with playing the game? No. It's a nice detail, but if it never amounts to anything, its not really needed. The game need actual content to make these things have meaning, and it has nothing but diluted shrines and seeds, with next to no meaningful reward system or sense of player progression. Everything feels pointless, moreso when you roll up on ganon only to meet a castle with worse level design than Dark Souls 2 and a boss who's only made easier by completing these gutted Dungeons that can be completed in less than 20 minutes.

>>388815315
Zelda is still riding that nostalga train. If BotW came out today and it wasn't made by nintendo and didn't have the Zelda name nobody would've given two shits about it, it would've received 6/10's at best.

The only reason people praise this dumb franchise is because the earlier Zelda games came out when there were basically no good games and the bar was insanely low and when you all had shit standards being stupid kids and all.

Nostalgia goggles is the only reason ANY of you fucking faggots pretend to like that game.

>>388837736
>But not strong enough to make grass move
Aloy BTFO

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>>388856024
top kek keep it coming

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>>388856024
>If BotW came out today and it wasn't made by nintendo and didn't have the Zelda name nobody would've given two shits about it, it would've received 6/10's at best.

Imagine being schizophrenic enough to believe that statement. Holy shit, seek help before you hurt people or yourself.

>>388854070
>The dungeon's it has feel great, the bosses feel great
If by feel great, you mean feel the same.

>>388855826
Good post.

LMAO why are Sonygers always the saltiest fucks on the planet?

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>>388855826
>mindlessly doing nothing but holding forward.
That's complete bullshit. One of the great things about the game is standing on a mountaintop, seeing a landmark of interest in the distance and wondering how you get there.

The shrine at the top of the mountain in the snowy area of the great plateau, did you get up there just by 'pushing forward'?

Bullshit. You had to THINK about how you were going to get up there.
How will you survive the cold?
How will you cross the freezing river?
How will you climb that mountain?

The offers a multitude of different solutions for traversing the enviroment based on how the player want to play the game, the resources available and how the climate and landscape are connected.

Pushing forward won't get you where you want to be, you need to plan and adapt as you go.

>>388858372
>seeing a landmark of interest in the distance and wondering how you get there.
And then getting there and being disappointed when all you find is maybe yet another shrine or boko camp.

>>388856024
>If BotW came out today and it wasn't made by nintendo nobody would've given two shits about it.

This is comedy gold.

>>388858608
Why is finding a shrine a disappointment?

Seriously, the level of absolute fucking desperation to find something to complain about is pitiful.

>>388837467
This is why Nintendo will never go for 'power' in their systems. All the realistic graphics in the world mean shit if you have zero polish. Which is the fatal flaw of almost every Sony game. Also this is entirely just the physic engine and doesn't show off the sheer level of TECHNOLOGY BotW has which is Metal Gear Tier.

>>388858834
Maybe because they all share the same exact theme, the same piss easy types of puzzles, the same shitty reward, and the disappointment that that cool looking area you saw off in the distance only housed this one garbage shrine.
Not everyone enjoys doing the same things and being let down over and over again.

>>388859101
Sure the Combat shrines are similar but how the fuck is eventide island any similar to thyplo ruins? Fucking shithead

>>388859596
Nice cherrypicking of some of the only standout moments in the game. Also, those aren't even shrines, just lead up to shitty empty shrines.

>>388859101

I don't understand. The spirit orbs are basically pieces of heart or pieces of stamina vessels.

>>388859101
>autists wanting to be rewarded for everything

I blame achievement whores for this beta faggot behavior. Funny thing is you're still being rewarded with a piece of heart for every shrine.

>>388859843
They're shrine quests you fucking schnook. The shrine is just there as means to use fast travel. And they all have different content.

>>388817264
imagine the fucking asspain when Mario Odyssey is released.

it will be fucking glorious.

>>388859921
And it's the worst way they've ever integrated them into the Zelda series.

>>388860041
>I'll say I want to do 120 shrines full of easy puzzles for no reason whatsoever just to try and prove my point

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>>388841069
k

>>388860258
They're not shrines, and they're rare. They're also still not all that exciting. It's funny that people praise Eventide Island as being a highlight of the game, when it literally just strips you of your gear and nothing else.

>>388815048

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

>>388860365
One would like to hope Odyssey will be a good game.

>>388860565
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>>388860394
>calls out others for cherrypicking
>proceeds to do the same thing

kek

>>388860749
Shrine quests like that are rare. Don't try to pretend they're all like that, because they're most definitely not. Some of them were an outright pain in the ass, like hunting down slab shards.

>>388815315
I actually think this unironically

>>388860962
>criticize a major component of the game
>nitpicking
Ok then

>>388860394
>I'll say I want to do 120 shrines full of easy puzzles for no reason whatsoever just to try and prove my point

I don't get it. That's what you were doing in the first place.

>>388831836
>BOTW is just Zero Dawn with worse graphics but better graphics and less flaws overall

Did you have a stroke?

>>388861016
And they're all completely different from each other.

>>388831256
pls post more proof.

never happened to me in my 200+ hours of gameplay.

hey, that's just, like, their opinion, man.

>>388861105
It can't be a proper criticism when you're literally lying about all the shrines being the same. That is just false.

>>388815048
Remember that it's a Nintendo game, therefore it cannot be good.

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>>388861105
>Maybe because they all share the same exact theme, the same piss easy types of puzzles, the same shitty reward, and the disappointment that that cool looking area you saw off in the distance only housed this one garbage shrine.

That is what you said. If you think that is some sort of constructive criticism that warrants an actual response then you need to reevaluate your life.

>>388815048
It certainly has room for improvement, but it's pretty damn high up there.
"greatest of all time" and "top 10 X" are totally non-objective measurements so you can believe whatever you want regarding EDGE's common baiting.

>>388858372
> One of the great things about the game is standing on a mountaintop, seeing a landmark of interest
That's just the visual aspect. The visuals aren't even impressive in the slightest. Again, interesting set pieces but next to nothing unique about them.

And yes, most of it is just pushing forward and waiting.

>How will you survive the cold?
By buying the easy to afford winter gear next to the mountains
>How will you cross the freezing river?
The same thing you always use, the ice block tool or just get a nearby boat
How will you climb that mountain?
Hold forward

>you need to plan and adapt as you go.
I got all the lookout towers almost at the beginning of the game without any planning or adapting. I just spammed food through the more harsh weather or got potions that are literally given to you at the base to resist heat or cold.

There is no thought process. Even the mazes are simple. I'm surprised your making a mountain out of next to zero complexity when it comes to environment traversal. The most "complex" thing is the rain, and then it just boils down to it being annoying and having to wait it out, avoiding metal equips and walking around things if you really want to waste even more time.

>>388858834
Also you're replying to the same guy

>Seriously, the level of absolute fucking desperation to find something to complain about is pitiful.

You sound like an annoying cunt.

>>388861121
You think I would bother with the shrines if it weren't for the orbs at the end? I'd go through them if they were unique, interesting, and challenging regardless of if there was a reward or not, but they weren't. By the time I was sick of the shrines, I was sick of the game, so I put it down and haven't picked it up since.

>>388861421
I said they contained the same types of puzzles, which is true. Everything else I said about shrines is also true. The puzzles are limited to a small number of abilities, and what's more they're easy.

>>388856024
>If BotW came out today and it wasn't BotW, it wouldn't be good.
Is that so?

>>388860041
The issue is the reward content itself rather than the fact that you are being rewarded. Extra orbs does nothing to improve the game experience or make it more enjoyable. Its a repetitive task that never really benefits anything significant other than making the game easier than it already is.

>>388861686
If you don't think that's true then you're delusional.

>>388859596
>People speak of eventide as some big turn of events and something unique
>Literally just a tiny island with ONE big enemy that can be two shot with the lightning strike
>AGAIN all you do is put 3 balls into 3 holes, now with less gear

Wow, fucking amazing.

>>388862000
>Its a repetitive task that never really benefits anything significant other than making the game easier than it already is.
This

I'm so glad that this board has turned on Nintendo.

>>388862000
It's no different than collecting pieces of heart in previous zelda games honestly. It's not a flaw at all.

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Link's butt is cute!
CUTE!

>>388815285
Glide for a total time of one year and you get the unbreakable sword of the fallen hero

>>388862305
A big difference is those pieces of hearts were seamlessly integrated into the world, instead of all locked away in lazy shrines that stick out like a sore thumb. You also never knew what you might discover, making things less predictable and routine.

>>388861921
And they get easier too, because you are using the same equipment youve had the entire game. It becomes a chore of persistence rather than reward. Its poor game design not proving unique or interesting content.

Take the Witcher 3 for example. The filler stuff (monster hunts and treasure hunts) can get somewhat repetitive (although some are beefed up) but they are OPTIONAL and not the entire basis of the game.

The main and side quests offer great narrative, choice, changes in quest areas/bosses, rewards, levels, skills, and overall satisfaction in resolving a situation in however you see fit. It has a big world, but its not a "make your own content fun" kind of deal, it has more than enough for you to mix up things and enjoy yourself at your own pace while having things that are driven forward;

Whereas, you take Zelda, you can be as directionless as you want, you can discover what you want when you want, but you can never really be surprised by 80% of the game past a certain point because it offers no solid content to keep the player engaged.

>>388856024
2/10

>>388862305
Except there were much fewer, which makes it more rewarding in itself. Other games also had items, gear, bottles, armor, etc. that had meaningful increases to Link.

Gadgets that you just got from a new dungeon would also play a role in having access to these, rather than tiny minipuzzles all isolated and divided.

>>388862532
It's not a big difference because it's basically the same formula with a different coat of paint. That is all there is to that.

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>game not even 1 year old
>"Best game of all time"

Every few years the "best game of all time" releases. 2013 had Last of Us. 2015 had Witcher 3. 2017 has BoTW.

This is nothing more than clickbait at this point.

>>388862789
So your entire bitching revolves around the fact that it's different from previous Zelda games? That is weak.

>>388862814
>it's basically the same formula
Since when do you need 100 heart pieces (or stamina) in any Zelda game?

Since when are collecting heart pieces the ONLY thing you do the entire game?

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>>388815048
No, it should have been Undertale's turn.

>>388862951
No, as a game in itself, its heavily flawed. The fact that its worse than an old Zelda game like OOT is pretty telling to how lame it came out.

It's just an open world game with many shortcomings that open world games have. Even without the Zelda title, its an average game.

>>388862109
Thank you for oversimplifying it for me. I was afraid I was having too much genuine enjoyment.

>>388862814
There's a huge difference in that you know exactly what you'll get the moment you see a puzzle. It'd be the equivalent of not only hiding nothing but heart pieces behind cracked walls in OoT, but all the heart pieces behind those cracked walls. There's no sense of discovery or fulfillment like that.

STOP TRUSTING GAME JOURNALISM

>>388862789
you're describing twilight princess and that game is shat on by most of the fanbase. i'm sorry but you're a minority and the zelda formula was getting stale

>>388862906
I mean if things keep improving the best thing will always be new. Your point is kind of silly. If the best thing ever was uncontested why would we even make new shit?

>>388863082
I agree

>>388863279
I think you suck

>>388863164
Even a baby enjoys throwing his own shit at times. You are no different.

>>388863234
Only trust it when it says Nintendo sucks.

>>388863369
That's _____ok

>>388863250
Zelda is pretty stale, I think BOTW as a game shouldnt be a focus though. Their should be actual content and dungeons, and non shit combat and actual enemy variety, and challenge. There should also be more to the game than just grabbing heart pieces or stamina.

>>388863168
how is it not when the entire process to get it is completely different? a game not being rewardful enough is probably the lamest complaint i've come across regarding many games.

>>388863250
He's also describing literally every other major zelda game you fag

>>388863456
So why does it upset you?

>>388863602
Name 5 games that reward you with the same shit over and over again 120 times, with nothing unique in between.

>>388863595
but there's more to BOTW than that.

>>388863690
???
Most of those 120 things are unique though.
The only really repetitive ones are the combat trials.

>>388863690
Super Metroid, Zero Mission, Metroid Prime 1-3.

>>388863602
That's because typically games know how to reward the player in a meaningful way, so it's a very rare complaint. Just like most games knowing the significance of proper risk vs reward when it comes to combat. BotW makes some very odd, fundamental mistakes that I never thought I'd see from Nintendo.

>>388863690
Again with the hyperbole. The Barbarian Set, the Climbing Gear and the Rubble suit can all be found in Shrines.