How do we fix the horror genre?

>>388810182
make it no longer a game.
make it real
have people die

Bump, what the hell

You keep making this fucking thread, and not once have I ever seen someone mention what the fuck is wrong with horror in general.

What is wrong with the horror genre that needs fixing to begin with?

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>>388811425
I'm bumping because I want creepy pics you fucking moron

>>388810182
Less jumpscare with shouts and loud music.
More psychological shit.

>>388811573
This. I want something like the shining but for videogames

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>>388811460
It just drives me crazy because it's clearly an /x/ thread, but there is potential for an interesting video game discussion centered around horror games but there is so little that can specifically be pointed out as wrong. Is it too scary? Not scary enough? Too focused on the scary element and not with the game element? Using horror themes but not really horror? There's so much to unpack with studying the horror genre alone.

The only thing I honestly want to fix with horror is the obsession the horror genre has with Silent Hill 2. Almost every single game made after 2006 tries to include "psychological" elements, when really all they're doing is putting "deep" meaning on trite and meaningless things and then making the "twist" ending be IT WAS YOU ALL ALONG!

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Videogames.

>>388811891
New purseowner looks fucking neat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kU3k9X8wMs

From 6:23 to 6:40.
No jumpscares. No loud music. No shouts.
I was froze in place when I was younger.

>>388810182
Every time I see this image I can't help but see a broom or mop. You guys can a see it too, giggles?

>>388813349
I have no idea why right corrected to giggles

>>388810182
obligatory darkwood shilling
its good

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MORE CORNERS

>>388814089
Boy reminds me of my room where my parents used to lock me up, just much bigger and no noisy boiler.

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>>388814473
BET THE CORNER SCARED YOU

>>388811425
Instead of trying to create a creepy atmosphere devs now just throw in a bunch of gore and jumpscares. That is what is wrong with horror games.

>>388814581
Actually all my corners were covered in stuff. I didn't have any other place for it when your bed takes up half of it.

>>388810274
this guy is into something

why can't games be real?

>>388814816
And now you're in it too. Look behind your monitor.

>>388814902
I should clean my gamestation

>>388810182
>kill the player as infrequently as possible
As soon as the player dies they're disconnected from the game and any true terror they were feeling is now gone because while the character in the game died they're total safe and unharmed making much of the game's tension impotent.
>Never blatantly show what's scary
As soon as you can clearly see whatever it is that's supposed to be scary it stops being scary. It's the unknown that truly terrifies not ghosts, dolls or big scary monsters. Try to keep them to the periphery or only show them for a second or two.
>Focus on making it creepy
Fuck with spacial awareness, make people feel uncomfortable, turn off lights, play unknown sound effects, never let them feel safe for too long, subtlety move things from where they're supposed to be when the player looks away
>Try to eliminate progress walls and keep the player moving
If your game is puzzle heavy nothing takes people out of the mood faster than getting stuck at some part and then spending 4 hours sitting int he same room trying to figure it out
>Use jumpscares sparingly
Eliminating them entirely will lower the overall tension of the game, but using them too much will have the same effect, people get on edge when they think something might jump out at them, and the longer you can make them feel like that the better

>>388815354
>It's the unknown that truly terrifies not ghosts
Aren't like all of the top 10 most common fears very much known things?

>>388811573
Darkwood

>>388815814
The common fears are one type of fear.
Fear of the unknown is a different type of fear. Plus you have to understand the scale of the audience for the game. If you use one of the most common fears like spiders the only people who will feel fear are the people afraid of spiders but its not a creepy, seeping into your bones kind of fear. Itll be a "aaahh a spydur!! Eeekk" fear and that isnt memorable or worthy of being remembered. A true horror game, not action horror, but true horror game should make the player feel uneasy, uncomfortable in their own homes, theyll get up and open a window or turn on a light. Fear so unknown and foreign that the brain doesnt know how to cope or understand should be the goal. Thats too hard though which is why its never done in video games.

>>388815814
If it's not fps or third person or RE/SH style, then it's not horror.

>>388815814
Oops, meant for this. >>388816745

>>388814089
>TFW my old neighbor across the street abducted a girl and tortured and raped her for a couple of years and kept her locked up

>we never even realized it until the cops showed up one day

That could've been me and I'm still freaked out over remembering this.

The room looked like that too, except the windows were covered with something and there was soundproofing all over and a bed in the middle with lots of chains

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Make it more lewd

>>388810182
>No jump scares
>Only permanent death mode (also no saves/loads, you only get one "save" that always save progress and death delete it)
>Smarter AIs (no more "lol I'm in a closet I'm safe" nonsense)
>less generic monster design

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>>388819860

>>388811998
WHY IS THERE'S A GUY WHO SUCK ANOTHER GUY IN THE BACKGROUND ?!

>>388821134
How do you notice all those fag details?

>>388811998
>I RECOGNIZE THAT GAY BLOWJOB etc.

>>388810274
that's be too scary for me

Stop making them first-person haunted house jump scare simulators.

>>388820562

Don't open this.

>>388810182
New Scooby Doo games where it played like horror game (Shaggy POV) and ended with catching the ghost.

>>388824148
w-why?

>>388811425
Nothing

Horror games/movies are a lot like comedy movies, they don't necessarily have to be well made as long as they are funny/scary

Now if they are well made and scary, you get silent hill 2

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>>388821828
I'm not like you, Anon; I'm a real men.

>>388810182
just have combat dagnabbit

when did this meme start that horro games don't have combat anymore

>>388824792
Amnesia.
It's true though. Combat ruins horror.
Just look at Alien Isolation and how fucked the game got after they introduced the flamethrower.

>>388810182
Easy: we give the player a super shotgun as soon as the game starts and assert to them that you can blast whatever the hell even remotely tries to "scare" you in the face, killing it in a hilarious and effective fashion. The game is no longer scary whatsoever, but the game can still potentially be fun. Nobody gives a fuck about the horror, it is critically acclaimed.

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>>388810182
It is actually not that hard. They should be using pic related as the template.

>>388821134
summer has come and passed
the innocent can never last
wake me up
when september ends

- have the ABSOLUTE BEST top tier sound design
- have some kind of almost ineffective way of self defence. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
- make the player think they're gonna get jumpscared at irregular intervals, but never actually do it
- have compelling mistery story that keeps you interested

>>388824148
Why?

>>388815354
>As soon as you can clearly see whatever it is that's supposed to be scary it stops being scary. It's the unknown that truly terrifies not ghosts, dolls or big scary monsters. Try to keep them to the periphery or only show them for a second or two.

What a shitty meme. There's loads of great horror films and games that show the monster/alien/whatever.

Everyone shits on jumpscares but fails to make the distinction between things that give you a jumpscare organically and things which are scripted to invade your field of view suddenly and often accompanied by a loud noise.
An example of the former would be if a monster was stalking you extremely quietly and you turn around and there it fucking is jesus christ, you didn't need a scare chord to go along with it to make you shit bricks.

Don't look behind you, anon.

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You had your chance.

>>388827354
Is that a picture of Kojima taking a picture of himself?

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>>388810182
Do what condemned did and don't actually jumpscare people without a setup

>>388810182
Why do people post the image in horror threads like it's related at all?
Go to /cgl/

>>388827396
It's Hideo.

we stop talking about it

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It was fixed four years ago

>>388820562
it's too dark i cant see shit

>>388814902
I feel genuinely unsettled righ

>>388827754
Nice of them to do the captcha and hit post for you, late anon.

>>388820562
I dont get it

>>388827626
>four years ago
HOLY FUCK ITS BEEN FOUR FUCKING YEARS?

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>>388810182
>.jpg

>>388827467
Besides, it's not spooky at all. They just did a blackface rendition of the broken Geralt bust and gave him a dress.

>>388816745
wasn't worth the pirate

>>388820562
How the fuck did you get sound on a gif?

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>>388827947
>the broken Geralt bust
Oh god.

>>388819838
dude what
what happend to the girl? what happened to the guy?

>>388828082
Lol you think I'm actually being serious?

>>388827195
Alright, name them.
I want to watch and play them.

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what are some legitimately scary games that don't rely on jumpscares?

>>388828341
Darkwood seems to be good. It's free too.

>>388828492
lol its terrible

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>>388819860

>>388828492
>It's free too.
isn't it like 15 bucks on steam?

>>388815354
>Make them distrust all saferooms/elevators/loading screens

>>388828627
oh nevermind, the dev released it tpb

>>388828757
>tpb
Isn't that site taken down?

>>388810182
Either get rid of or minimize jumpscares since that is the cancer of horror.