Dissidia Final Fantasy NT

Guess it's just dead right now.

yes
warrior of light
Gold C

>When you scoop somebody into the wall and HP attack them
>when they spend the entire match trying to "get even" instead of teamfight and lose due to tunnel vision

Nigga who needs Holy Chain when you're the Warrior of Lightningrod

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>>388774184

>Main

Y'shtola> Surprised how fun she is

>Rank

Silver D right now.

>>388774184
The game is not out until fucking 2018 and nobody plays the beta aside from the fanboys so...

>>388775325
>fanboy
guilty

>Games have either zero lag or are absolutely unplayable.
p2p is the biggest shit.

>>388775325
Good point. Maybe they should have made it an open beta.

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Squall main here at Gold D
Hittin' those triggers is rewarding as hell

>try to save an ally being hit by firion whilrwind hp attack
>fail and get knocked back
>repeat this 3 times in the fight
>only win because nobody was targeting tera and she metldowns the person coming to kill me

I wouldn't have even been mad if we lost

>>388774184
Does it feature Fang yet?

>>388776140
If anybody else is coming in dissidia it's likely to be Sazh.

>>388776140
Who?
>>388775854
How do you do it? I've watched all the videos and I still suck at it.

>>388775619
This. For Honor all over again.

>>388774184
Just waitin for Prishe. Loves me some monk characters.

>>388776542
Not even. For honor's lag was embarrassing even when ranked against smash online. Everything being tied to a single host was a mistake.

>>388776932
>Everything being tied to a single host was a mistake.
It's the same in NT.

>>388777378
You sure about that? Because with how smooth the majority of my matches are I don't think that's true.

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>AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>OOOOOOOOO
>AAOO
>AAAAAAAAAAA

>>388778083
100% sure. No dedicated servers.
Thats the problem with non-1v1 p2p games, some matches are super smooth, some are unplayable.

>>388774184
>warrior of lights EX skill is not class up
shit sucks, I already lost the cool fan service supers but now I find out they removed him classing up

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Is pic related in this game, asking for a friend.

Surprised nobody has tried to use armoured moves on my Y'shtola traps yet.
Also, bliizard spikes is a nice 'fuck off' move!

>>388778718
I do nothing but armor through y'stholas everything

>>388778637
sure

I tried to play earlier today and waited like a solid 25 minutes for a single game and gave the fuck up.

The sad thing is, after you get used to the controls and learn how to play the game, it can actually be pretty fun, but this beta fucking sucks because it takes so long to find anyone. They should've given out more beta keys.

>>388779230

Seems it is diffiult to deal with armour moves as Y'shtola outside of Dodging/blocking...

>>388774184
>Who do you main?
Warrior of Light
>What rank are you?
Bronze B
I've been trying to grind ranks but I'm getting fucked by wait times and having to go to class.

>>388778637
nope blood weapons is just a name the weapons are still the normal ones

>>388779426
Not exactly, it follows the same block and dodge dynamic but you have an extra layer since if you're not sitting on your traps like some retard they'll have to either go around or armor through that and get hit as opposed to armor through your trap and whatever attack you throw out and hitting you still

Man the matches were so good. And now it's waiting hell. Damn it all

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Whens Edgar? I want more 1-6 characters

I tried playing last night and kept getting terrible lag and disconnects

I don't really have a main, just a mix of everyone. I've played Y'shtola the most, but shes at bronze A

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Matchmaking is fucked again

I'm afraid that I'll never be good at this game. I'm not very smart or clever.

>>388776435
Gotta time your button presses with the hits, it's pretty strict

>>388782339
There's still offline play, anon.

>>388780864
For what it's worth, he was just added to Dissidia Opera Omnia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX5-SbAkyjY

Zidane, Gold E

Trying to get my Tidus to Gold E

>>388783061
Then just get Zidane to plan E and you'll have Tidus to Gold E

>>388783304
eh, I'm much too lazy for that and i've had my fill of Zidane.

>>388782940
Offline play is boring why would I do that?

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>>388783480
Not like online play is much better at times

>that faggot Cloud that loses the match for you

Cmon I got us a two kill lead, what happened?

>>388783803
Bots are stupid though.

>>388784119
Extremely stupid. But they're practically bronze level bots. If they have bots that behaved as dangerously as the bots in dissidia and 012 we're going to be in trouble once we all make it to diamond on release.

>>388784175
Nah. Mithril bots are just as stupid. Only difference is that they complete combos.

>>388784119
>>388784175
>tfw i actually won a match with 2 bots against high silver, low gold.
Was fucking lucky.

>>388783480
In the beta, yes, but in the full game the AI will have to be better and more challenging.

>when you have a mirror match going on with someone on the enemy team and their teammate keeps trying to break it up

you fuckers just dont understand how serious this is. We have to determine who the better player is.

>>388785672
Nigga I'm trying to win, not let you have your little pride duel. Wait till the full release for that.

>>388785672
man fuck that, if you show your back to me you best got eyes behind because I'm coming for that booty

Is it true this is literally only 3v3?
Is it true matches are as fast as 20 seconds?

>>388786085
Is it true that you're asking really dumb questions that can easily be searched?

>>388785893
Nigga, what the fuck is one little battle going to do? consider it a 2v2.

>>388785971
Fine, I'll take both you fuckers on. That wont stop me coming for that mirror ass

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>>388774184
>Main
Pic related.
>Rank
Gold D. Finally working my way up after switching to Free Energy.

>Unga Bunga Cloud chases my Y'shtola
>See them coming on the minimap
>Holy when they arrive
>They get hit

Strifeniggers, when will they learn?

>>388786397
Its a 3v3 game though and your little 1v1s are the perfect time for me to fuck up the other dude from behind.

ctrl + f "Noctis"

seriously does this game not have noctis LC?

>>388787040
Of course he isn't in yet the game doesn't release until January.

>>388786874
dishonorable as shit, dog.

I could never be proud of such underhanded tactics

>>388787302
You say underhanded, I say teamwork. Haven't you seen the psp dissidia opening? That shit's nothing but teamwork.

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Is there an easy way to get a code to get in this yet?

>>388787302
I'm all for honorable duels but save it for 1v1 mode in the full release.

Why do people keep acting like Noctis should be a given when this came out in 2015?

>>388787302

What do you think this is, Dark Souls fight club PvP

>>388787472
No. The closed beta ends friday anyways.

>>388787551
Why are you acting like the arcade has never been updated with new characters? Do you really think it's only been these 14 characters since launch?

>>388787472
I think you're too late now bro.
>>388787551
Didn't the developers already confirm him?

>>388787472
The only practical way to get a code now is to beg somewhere.

So is the Agrias leak actually true?

>>388787357
There's teamwork and then there's breaking up somebodys duel.

If there's clearly beef between two, that should be left alone

>>388787774
Probably. There's going to be a new character released every month and people have mined data from the arcade cabinets so~

>>388787774
The girl from that webcomic about the fat guy?

>>388787774
The same arcade that leaked Jecht are the ones saying it's Gilgamesh, Gabranth, and Golbez. They also said there is data for Thancred and Agrias in the game too.

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Why is he so good? He's just carrying through these games.

>>388788162
Because you're not playing against good players. That's why people think Vaan is broken as shit right now.

>>388787824
That beef will cost me the round if my ally is a shitter. He can go has that out in the 1v1 mode that will be comically unbalanced.

>>388788162
>vaan tornados and sits in it
>go kill his ally for the round

I just don't get it.

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Auron when?

>>388784119
you are stupid

>>388788608
at a minimum it's going to be Yuna first and then seymour. Auron isn't hitting for quite some time

>>388787774
Wait, what Agrias leak? Sauce?

>>388787850
They announced there'd be a new character per month from August to November and hinted with a silhouette which contained the Dissidia artwork for Jecht, Cloud of Darkness, Golbez and Ultimecia. Jecht was added earlier this month, so it stands to reason the remaining three will follow. So it'll be quite a shock if what >>388787959 is suggesting happens and Gilgamesh and Gabranth turn up instead.

And goddamn, I don't want Agrias in this game. Don't get me wrong, I like her, but there's no way Tactics is going to get three characters, so if she gets the nod we'll never get Delita, who's a much better and more important character.

>>388788608
>Another sword user no different from Jecht or Cloud

>>388774184
>Dissidia Final Fantasy NT
but its not out?

>>388788643
What makes you say Seymour is coming first (or at all)? Auron is way more popular than Seymour.

>>388788608
After Wakka hits the stage

Lets see how those fuckers fight when they got Blitzballs in their face.

Excited that there's a new Dissidia game, but turned off by the 3 on 3 combat. I absolutely hate the direction they're taking the game, because as a friendless virgin, all I care about is single player content.

>>388788731
You're right it's not out. You're such a smart boy. Do you want a cookie and some milk?

>>388788693
What similarity's do Jecht and Cloud have besides big swords?

>>388788783
To balance the light and dark sides.
Cloud of Darkness, Golbez, and Gabranth all are pretty much mandatory as is Ultimecia to balance the sides out.

Then I imagine, given that they've been releasing nothing but chaos side allies to play catch-up, if they were smart they would stay balanced.

>>388788679
Don't kid yourself. We were never getting Delita. Ramza, Agrias, and Cid are the most popular characters and if they were going to pull a villain it would have been Altima/Ultima.

>>388788807
And that's fine and there's still the dissidia on psp or the single player on the console release for you to entertain yourself with.

But I absolutely love that I finally can get to live in a battle between cosmos and chaos.

>>388789035
Is there going to be full on single player content? I figured since on the ready screen there's only room for 1 hp attack, it wouldn't have nearly as much depth as the PSP games did (which wasn't much, considering the game was just dodge until someone fucks up and gets hit).

So is there a reason why Tidus's dodge HAS to play out entirely? what cant I just cancel my dodge animation at any point?

dodging into spiral cut would be sick.

>>388789240
They stated there was going to be a story mode so I imagine it'll be just as long and boring to play through a second time as the first dissidia. (but not really duodecim)

>>388789476
Because that shit would be broken as fuck

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Would you play a rat?

>>388789604
no

fuck off furfag

>>388788980
Delita has represented Tactics before in games like Record Keeper, and I'll give you Agrias, but I haven't seen any indication Cid is more popular than him. Not to mention so far Dissidia has always taken story relevance into consideration when choosing reps and Delita is easily the most important character in FFT after Ramza.

I also don't see how it's such a certainty they'd go with Ultima over him. That's somewhat akin to saying they would go with Zemus over Golbez or with Necron over Kuja, which obviously is not what happened.

>>388789539
They stated there's going to be story cutscenes which will be unlocked as you play, but not an actual dedicated story mode.

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>>388774184
Only the cutest one for me. Trying to get out of Gold E

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>>388789604
Definitely. She has enough unique attacks that she could make for a different Dragoon playstyle than Kain.

>>388789691
Everything in Tactics built up to Ultima and it possessed Ramza's sister in the end. Delita wasn't even part of the real story of Tactics involving the Church manipulation of the War. He's barely even relevant to Ramza's story after a while.

>>388789539
thats fucking stupid. Whats the point of being tricky if I have to commit to my dodges? might as well advertise that I can be hit at anypoint during this time.

Everyone's tracking is too good for it anyway.

>TFW Almost at Gold E with Y'shtola

I am gonna make it!

I'm not in the beta but is Kuja playable in it? He was my main in Duodecim.

>>388790153
No. There are no villains in the beta.

>>388790232

Shame

>>388790065
>everyone's tracking is too good
You kitten me. You can go clean under half of the casts attacks, on top of that your up attack flip gives you free airtime, and more than that you get to choose between 3 different approaches for offense at 3 different speeds, 2 of which beat dodges and 1 of which beats people attacking you.

not to mention how you can fuck up people like WoL who try to intercept yer dodges

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>>388789604
No, but I'd play as Namine.

>The friendly choruses of Thank Yous and See You Laters after a win
Feels good

Am I just bad at the game or movement way more limited compared to the PSP games?

>>388790305
then why the hell every now and then I do what shouldve been a well timed dodge only to get snatched out of it by an attack that shouldve just narrowly missed.

Some of the shit I've encountered would not fly in duodecim.

Oh shit niggas an update

>>388790636
Nothing would fly in duodecim because you'd be too busy getting exdeath'd

>>388790487

>Lose
>Everyone says sorry

I can't get mad if I see that

>>388790784

[TASTY ARROW INTENSIFIES]

>>388790636
Because there's no such thing as a narrow miss. Dodges don't have i-frames.

>>388790784
any idea what this update is for? bug fix stuff?

>>388789950
>the real story
Opinion.
The political intrigue surrounding Delita and his rags to riches story was far more engrossing than generic demon story. There's a reason why he got the final cutscene to bring everything full circle

I wish I could stop playing Squall but he's so much fun. What are Assassins supposed to do anyway?

>>388791171
>any idea what this update is for? bug fix stuff?
God I fucking hope so

>>388791432
Chase down targets and teamfight. Like a faster moving vanguard but instead of knocking people away you knock them into compromising situations.

>>388791432
Can't speak for all of them as I only play Zidane but I usually just scout around and help my teammates by attacking enemies that are focused on them and then taking them out after a wall splat or during an attack animation.

How do you attack the summoning crystal? What combo or HP attack do you use on it?

>>388790972
Well they aught to.
If im above you, I should not be hit by a horizontal slash going under me.

For example, that move Firion does where he swings his lance around in a circle. Back and duodecim I'd wreck that from above, now that shit can pull me out of anything except a brv attack.

I miss being the fastest on the field. that was my shit

>>388791171

Apparently its something to do with matchmaking

>>388791432
Get in and disrupt/be annoying or target priority targets like casters hiding away. They're pretty much speedy Vanguards.

>>388791360
You can't say it's an opinion since the church storyline is factually the main story. The entire war of the lions was kicked off specifically by the church in order to enact the Zodiac demon plan. Delita schemed politically but ultimately all of it only worked because everyone else was too busy with the demon war shit.

Apparently you missed out on the part where Delita only became a hero because Ramza and company actually saved the world and destroyed the church. They outright state that the true history was hidden up until the narrator decided to reveal it to the world.

>>388791636
Firion's basic brave combo has a secondary effect of vortex. It literally sucks people into it and has a 360 degree hit box. It isn't a horizontal attack.

>>388791596
hold l2 and r2, if you just press it, you lock on to the closest target, so you gotta hold the buttons

>>388791870
No I know how I was just asking how everyone personally attacks it. Also you only need to hold L2 or R2 not both.

>>388792049
Ranged attacks if there are people nearby. My fastest melee if I'm the only one there.

Well the update made me get my first crash of the beta. I guess that's somehing.

How many characters is this going to be anyway

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>update hits
>suddenly better people are playing
>get my ass absolutely wrecked by a WoL and Squall tag team
>I've been fighting shitters all this time

>dodging doesn't work like it did in 012
Fucking trash

>>388792374
>Team up with Squall and Bartz
>We seem to have good synergy
>Platinum Vaan pretty much solos us

>>388792356
I think they said they want to shoot for 50

>>388792374
I've fighting people that actually hold their combos. I actually saw a WoL try to approach with his ranged. Can you imagine it?

Naturally I win but fuck this is great.

>>388792446
>the game isn't immediately over because someone picked the most broken character
fucking trash

>>388792526
hey! That's... actually true but still

>>388787649
It ends Sunday night

I really hate getting hit by Marksmen. Salvation Scythe is especially annoying how do I deal with it?

>>388792663
>it ends sunday
>Dissidia beta crosses over with the Gundam Versus open beta

Fucking

I haven't played online much so I'm only bronze C. My favorites so far are cecil, onion knight and firion. Cecilbros, which class do you start as?

>>388792446
I feel you man. I keep thinking dodge towards because I-frames will carry me through the attack.
But nah, I get my shit kicked in

>>388792710
Just gotta be aware. Keep the caster in mind on the minimap and look to see if they're tracking you.

I don't think I appreciate this 360 degree hitbox business.

>try to stop a cloud from cross-slashing my teammate
>get hit even though im behind him

this shit is a bad as Cloud's up air in smash 4

>>388792710
>Salvation Scythe is especially annoying
Sorry about that

I never cursed much while playing video games until this. That's probably bad right?

>>388793640
Nah that's pretty normal for fighting games.

>>388793368
Fucking this. Having no projectiles against that fucker is a bitch.

I know Ace is apparently the fastest mage but does that also mean he's the best?

The game is ok, but it's not for me. I hate games where I get gangfucked by everyone before the match even starts. I'll stick to the psp one with my neat little moogle letters.

>>388793954
No

>>388793640
I dont think I ever dropped so many 'Fucks' in such a short span since I played the Crash remake.

I can only take so much bullshit.

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How do I into beta?

>>388794186
Then who is? Emperor? Maybe Golbez when he releases?

>>388794396
Midichlorian count.

>>388794443
There is no "best in a category" because each roll has completely different ways to do their objective which changes drastically depending on team comps.

So let's say you've got an emperor and like two jechts. Well even though emperor has godlike zone control that don't amount to fuck all if you don't have people that can keep shit off of you.

How good is Y'shtola's Virus spell?

>enemies start the match trying to gang bang me
>all 3 get hit by firions hp attack and we win soon after

Targeting the marksman is a good idea but not if all 3 of you chucklefucks are going to do it.

>>388791827
>It literally sucks people into it and has a 360 degree hit box.
Back in my day, there was no such thing.

Just about every character I played could interrupt that move. Hell, I used to camp out on top of firion's head. Y'know, until he uses fucking Shield Bash and baits me into a Lord of Arms, but thats another story

>>388794816
It was rebalanced because Firion has no good air options.

You also have to consider that NT/AC is the first time they even bothered to try and balance characters instead of just letting them be broken as fuck.

>>388794816
>baits you
haha no
He'd land a lucky hit, assist you, then land a guaranteed hit into an hp attack and you'd be half down or dead depending on what summon he used and what his gear was like.

Man it sucks that only now do they fix the matchmaking but this shits on point

Holy fuck Tidus is ridiculous.

Wait who is supposed to attack the core? Only Marksmen? Should everyone go for it if they can? Eh fuck it I guess it's pointless to worry about at this stage.

>>388795373
Anyone can attack the core. If you have a clear shot at it and there's nothing else pressing you might as well go for it.

>>388795002
w-we didnt use summons, but yes, he would do that too.
Main reason why I dislike Firion.

Looking forward to teaming up with him once the game coems out though.
Yknow, If he hasn't replaced me with his XIV friends.

>>388795373
I think Vanguards and Assassins (that aren't close) should try to get in between the enemy and the core, assuming the enemy is going after it at all

The whole 3v3 thing feels kind of unnecessary desu

>>388795857
Then go play Duodecim.

>match starts
>laggy as fuck
>enemies constantly on my ass
>cloud that refuses to stop chasing me but never hits me with an hp attack
>land hp attacks on all his allies despite him chasing me
>"oh boy now squall wants some"
>spend the second half of the match defending myself against two people
>neither of them hp attack me
>still land hp attacks on their third ally
>"oh fucking boy"
>match ends just as I'm targeted by all 3 people
>my teammates were busy murdering them from behind

>>388795353
In what way?

>>388795353
I agree, he seems cheap.

>>388795857
I like it. More fun desu

>Check what Dissidia streams are up
>Top one has the title "Platinum Rank Vaan"
We're doing this already?

>This calls for a summon
>This calls for a summon
>This calls for a summon
>This calls for a summon
I GET IT SQUALL, I WAS TRYING TO KEEP LIGHTNING OFF OF YOUR ASS

>TFW every time I begin a summon as Y'shtola, everyone ignores me

Ok then.

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>>388794625
Picking up multikills feels really good.

>>388797919
Given some situations. If you're summoning and it gives me a KILL, I'll take that trade. Staying out of a fight for 8 seconds is a long time

>>388798024
>No rhyme

You had one job.

>>388798115
What a thrill, picking up a multikill.

I got your back,anon.

Ramza and Ace are cool additions but I wont buy the game until they add Tifa back in

>>388798508
Enjoy buying the game in 2020 I guess.

>>388797919
I just completely gave up trying to fight Y'shtola.

Fuck that Ice trap layin'
Holy Armor havin'
No thigh window having'
tail wavin'
Blind as a bat,
Pussy woman.

>>388798725
Who do you play

>>388798784
Zidane and Tidus

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>Finally hit Gold with Shantotto
After much fatigue, it's time to hit the big league.

Holy shit just won by a timeout.

First time I've seen it.

The team with more stocks wins.

>>388798875
Gold isn't the big league Adamant is so calm your ass down before it gets filled with jizz.

>>388798875
To produce such a failure without rhyme, as expected of gold ranked swine.

>getting into matches takes longer than the actual match itself
I really hope they sort out the loading before launch

>>388798508
This game would be kino if they added Neku.

>>388799206
I won't rule out guest characters but you've got some time yet before that happens

Why do Lightnings always want to fight me?

>>388799015
Why yes, thats generally how timeouts work in most games that have them.

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>>388798024
I still can't make heads or tails of what the hell is going on with the UI. Would take function over this bloom bath any day.

>Watch a Sephiroth match video
>KAA SAN KAA SAN KAA SAN KAA SAN KAA SAN

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>>388799447

>>388799396
It's funny because the UI is literally function over aesthetic.

How come the villains in Dissidia are more fun than the heroes?

>>388799396
At this point you're being willfully ignorant.

>>388799569
Power creep.

>>388799569
They all have some sort of extreme gimmick going for them, making them a lot more unique than the heroes.

>>388799396
The UI is substance over style you clown.

>>388797342
Das me, I dunno what to name my streams really and I'm not even that good.

Also
>Get matched with all bot allies
>Same for the enemy team's lightning
>This happens 3 times

>>388799968
Higher ranks are getting paired up less with others now because of the smaller pool. I'm in Mithril and I mostly get bots with the occasional golds.

>>388799968
Well congratulations on not being as annoying as I thought you'd be. Fuck Vaan though.

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No Red Mage No Buy

Is anyone else having serious problems with spatial awareness in this game? Keeping track of all the enemies is downright impossible.

>>388800278
Mini map tells you where they are. Tethers tell you if they're targeting and attacking you. Numbers next to names tell you who is targeting who if not you.

>>388800062
I thought that might be it. It's especially stupid when the game just gives me an all bot game, it should just wait for at least a single person

>>388800123
I get that I probably piss a lot of people off with Vaan with the White Whorl, especially when people try to attack me and get clipped by it.

>>388800524
I haven't even been looking at the minimap, guess I need to pay more attention. I really hope they clean up the UI.

>>388800663
What do you mean by clean up? It's already sterile as fuck.

>Teammate disconnects
>Match is laggy as all fuck
>Win anyway
wew

>>388800663
don't think you can clean the UI more without removing information the player needs

>>388800663
mini map is literally the only way to do positional play if WoL hits you with a camera lock.

Honestly if you pay attention to the map and tethers you'll never have to mess with the camera.

>>388800747
Not him but imo Break Bonus doesn't need that giant icon and the D-Pad 1234 icons dont need to exist

>>388801071
So don't look at them. How are they a hinderance?

>>388801071
>communications tab doesn't need to exist
>when at high level play communicating is necessary

The UI looks overwhelming if you focus on it hard enough. When I'm playing the game, I never think to myself, "I'd have won if the break bonus icon wasn't there!"

>>388801071
>in tournaments the communication is used constantly
>they even are customizable and every player has custom communication shortcuts
>"nah that's not necessary"
nigga what?

>>388801395
You're probably overcomplicating it. There's HP bars and BRV values and a minimap and the stocks and summon bar. Chill out.

>>388801270
>>388801541

Stop being retards. Of course he doesn't mean comms should stop existing, he means the icons don't need to be there.

>>388801696
For the sake of thinning out "clutter" that only annoys people with autism?

So how would you then be able to recall quickly which icon does what.

>>388801201
I don't already, they just don't add anything thus unnecessary, why even have them there?
>>388801270
>>388801541
I guess I shouldn't either bother when people are retarded enough to think when I am talking about icons they go ahead and assume I am talking about the whole system. How about we add a giant Keyboard icon to every PC game so you are constantly reminded you can talk.

>>388801696
Good luck remembering they exist then. NA barely uses it now, what makes you think anyone will even know they exist later if you take away the icons?

>>388801806
Most PC games with chat functionality show you what button to press to bring up the chat menu dumb shit. If you remove it then no one will ever use it because they won't know it's there. You're going to have posts 3 months down the line going "oh shit did you know you can communicate with your team? Fuck why didn't Square tell us that?"

>>388801806
>Remove break bonus and comms
>Then no one knows they exist
Genius

>>388801992
>"did you know the break bonus increases if nobody gets broken"

I'm gonna miss playing when the beta ends
Why's the final release gotta be so far away?

>>388802518
Who knows. But at least they sort of fixed the infinite wait glitch and I do have to jump through hoops to get consecutive matches

>>388801992
>>388802091
You are defending useless clutter and being contrarian faggots for the sake of very literal retarded people, nobody would miss these icons being gone or being made smaller if they have to stay.

>No one will ever use chat because no one knows its there
>Everyone spams their hellos or shit in the waiting room menus
>With the icons gone in game guess thats impossible now
>Wow how did my non retarded team mate speak to me in battle?

Let's also use that extra space at the bottom to put in the controls, such as HP attack is square in case you forgot.
The very same people you are defending don't even look at the minimap already and think it's useless.

>>388802836
>or being made smaller if they have to stay.
You're talking about useful information being lost for the sake of your autism.

>>388802652
Yeah I noticed that at times I can find another match almost immediately whereas before it took ages every single time

>>388802836
>everyone spams hellos or shit
>because the command prompts are there and they know it exists

Are you really this fucking stupid?

>>388774184
The amount of people raging on Twitch about this game is hilariously high.

>another match unplayable because of lag
i just want do lay down my controller and do something else till the match is over, but i feel bad for my mates every time.

>>388803356
I just stopped playing because of this. Got 3 or so matches with horrible lag in a row. Are the nips on or something right now?

>>388802923
I knew I shouldn't even have bothered explaining shit because of faggots like you
>Someone asks about how would the menu be cleaned up?
>I talk about minor things that are unnecessary
>WOW BOI AUTISM THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY INFO HOW WILL THE RETARDS FUNCTION WITHOUT THEM?

>>388803014
My bad mate, I now realize you are defending this so adamantly because you are one of the retarded people to claim to speak for, yes obviously I was asking to remove the chat icons from the waiting rooms too!

>>388803420
Yeah, it's afternoon over there.

>>388803420
Bad luck i guess. Fuck p2p, i'm paying for PS+ so i don't have to deal with this shit.

>>388803517
>I talk about minor things that are unnecessary
I know and it's why you're bad as well as wrong. On that topic the "question" was a rhetorical one, so on top of being bad and wrong you're also retarded.

>tfw silver and keep getting bronze E shitters lowering my rank

>>388803517
My bad m8y, I thought you might actually have an argument at some point but instead you've proven you're just a dumbass.

Yes, people are obviously going to look at the summoning messages, the help me messages, the targeting messages, and learn all of it during the waiting room. They're going to absolutely remember that, without any prompt, those same messages can be used during a game as well. No one would ever assume they're just waiting room chat in that scenario.

>>388803673
Silver is literally a pity rank. It's the bottom floor. You might as well start at silver since bronze never loses points for losing a game.

>>388803645
What I am understanding so far is you wouldn't be against the whole control scheme being on the screen at all times either for the sake of retards.

>>388803745
>HMM WONDER HOW OTHER NON RETARDED PEOPLE DO IT IN BATTLE
>HMM WONDER HOW THE BOTS SPAM THAT SHIT IN BATTLE
>HMM WONDER HOW ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE SAYING BYES AT THE END OF A MATCH
>Can't possibly be the same way I do it in menus!
>Wow I played this game for 3 months and had no idea you could do that in battle because there was no icons on the hud

Fuck off.

Ah shit someone ragequit and deleted the game instantly they're so mad. I should stop being addicted to watching people rage.

>>388803206
>The amount of people raging on Twitch about this game is hilariously high.
there are more than enough reasons to do so.

>>388804487
>the whole control scheme
The control scheme will never change. Your chat shortcuts can be customized per character. Your comparison is as weak as your entire argument.

>>388803745
>>388804678
I just realized you are now elevating this like I also implied to remove the dialogue boxes that pop up when you how a direction lol

I see you are well versed in petty internet arguments that go no where in the end anyway.

can we remap bravery attacks in the full game? some of the skills feel wrong on directional inputs

Anybody else ever get those times where the attack hits, but nothing happens?

like I am 100% certain that I hit this character, but the enemy acts as though he never got hit.

They should really fix that if they can. But I suppose it happens rare enough that it doesnt matter

>>388804758
>elevating
Nice try at mental gymnastics but you are the one who said
>>388804487
>What I am understanding so far is you wouldn't be against the whole control scheme being on the screen at all times either for the sake of retards.

And following the different conversational path you yourself started I explained why that example was stupid and you are still wrong.

>>388804627
"I'm bad at the game and refuse to learn because WAAAH NOT MUH OLD DISSIDIA" is not a good reason.

IM BARTZ

>>388804627
such as being bad at the game, I imagine

>>388805012
lol mate I'm not the one who implied I was talking about the icons in the waiting rooms and the directional pop up, also if you argument held anything in the first place you would of immediately denied that you are defending it for the sake of literal retards but you still haven't.
No person with a functional brain needs those prompts there.

And like I said before this has long devolved into a shitty petty ass internet argument out of nothing and this is the last reply you will get from me faggot

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Whens Reynn? WoFF ended up being one of my favorite games of last year, I think she'd be an interesting addition.

>>388805092
>>388805442
It's a laggy team brawler with dumbed down combat form a psp game.

>>388805828
It's not the game's fault that you have bad internet or use wifi in a fighting game.

>>388805740
>lol mate I'm not the one who implied I was talking about the icons in the waiting rooms and the directional pop up
Neither am I.

> if you argument held anything in the first place you would of immediately denied that you are defending it for the sake of literal retards but you still haven't.
You mean against your button prompt argument which I already explained is stupid. Nice mental gymnastics again. But I'll bite. Here we go:

Because your communications can be customized to be different for character and grouped differently, being able to see them is necessary for many players.

Feel silly don't ya.

>>388806096
you habe no idea how peer to peer connection works right?

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Man I hate when this happens

>>388806456
Oh god that wasn't a sarcastic thank you. I meant to message "sorry". Now they're going to think I'm a dick

>>388806456
Damn that rarely happens. Fuck your teammates. I hope they apologized.

>>388806546
>that feel when I send the wrong message on accident
>die
>JA MATA NA

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Time to get CUHRAZY

>>388806659
>Have a good match and everyone says farewell and they hope to see you again
>Squall just says Bye and it makes me seem like a dick

>>388806853
Squall has no friends

>>388806853
I like Emperor's quotes. All of them are arrogant.

>>388807062
Well I mean he's not exactly unjustified in his arrogance.

>>388807062
Why is he called The Emperor and not Mateus? Im not familiar with 2

>>388807224
Maybe he finds his name embarrassing.

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>>388806853
I love Squall, but this dude needs some social skills

>>388807224
He was "Emperor" in the game and the book named him "Mateus". Kind of how the final fantasy 1 gave names to the crew in the novel (that are almost completely ignored).

>>388807312
He seemed pretty sociable in KH but I suppose that was OOC behavior.

>>388776932
It's a fucking Beta you fucking retard, pull your head out of your asshole.

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>>388806205
personally I see no point in it as the player would know what they customized it to anyway

pic related is the arcade hud which gives the buttons at least a nice flair / shows you what the groups are for and dont look horrid like the ones on console

>>388807639
Reread the fucking conversation chain you stupid fuck

>>388805784
>tfw WoFF is what got me into the franchise
I'd love to see her or Lann in, but it doesn't seem like the game is too popular among FF fans.

>>388807546
His portrayal in KH resembled more of a well adjusted person, than regular canon. Granted I can't blame OG Squall for being distant.

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>>388807942
Speaking of KH they need to release this costume already.

>>388800134
Lightning is a Red Mage, fool.

>>388808284
I.
That.
Hm....

>>388808284
>>388808405
Well she doesn't have any White Magic in this right?

>>388808284
>Lightning
>red mage
Found the lightningfag that doesn't know anything about FF

>>388808675
You could set regen to your ex skill

>>388808746
Everyone can...

Bullying streamers with Vaan is funny as fuck.

>>388809604
Who were you bullying?

>>388808161
Probably for the home release in January.

Whemever I watch footage of a high level arcade player they're always the ones getting kills and coming in first place and stuff no matter what character they're playing. Is it possible to carry with anyone? Or do they just always have good teammates?

>>388810142
They have good teammates. You can't really carry at high level due to the mechanics not having a wide gulf of technical and physical ability like a traditional fighting game and the majority of characters having the same start up and active frames.

>>388809775
That wolf guy on twitch right now saying he's "Best Cloud NA"

>>388810142
I suspect these people you are watching only upload the stuff of them doing good?

>>388810458
Maybe but they're like so good though. I don't think they ever do bad it seems like anyway. Like they're so good it's hard to imagine them doing badly.

>>388810394
Oh are you the Platnium D Vaan who just lost?

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>These Tidus players trying to spiral cut me
>Land directly into Vaan's red spiral.

>>388810758
No. I'm a Gold A Vaan. My Firion is Platinum B though.

anyone think the game might die quickly after release? having to rely so much on others for a win just seems infuriating when people generally don't play as team

>>388811758
Even if it does I'll just play with the japanese

>>388811758
Team games make it more likely people will play due to the psychological effect of being able to blame others. Street Fighter is the only 1v1 fighter with any legs due to legacy.

>>388812037
I blame myself for everything.

>>388812668
That's because you have an inferiority complex.

>>388812821
You kitten. It's the opposite. I could have prevented it all had I paid more attention to them

>>388812878
So you have an inferiority complex on top of control issues.

>>388812976
Exactly

>>388774184
How is Terra in this game?
From the vids I've seen she's more of a backline support now because her spells either travel too slowly or you kinda set them up as traps.

>>388813746
She's a marksman so yeah. They mostly go around the map firing off spells. Since it's a team game you're supposed to basically assist and hit people while they aren't looking, just like assassin.

Vanguard and Specialist play the front line role more.

Terra is okay though.

I get the feeling that you pick characters based on what role you want to fill and whose kit you like.

>>388814001
You could just play your favorite character

>>388813936
I'm guessing they dumbed down everyone's abilities in this game to accomodate 3v3?
How is Ultimecia though? She's pretty annoying to fight in the previous games.

>>388814085
She's not in yet. And I wouldn't expect her to be omega tier this time around either.

>>388814085
Depends on your definition of dumbed down. Games don't end instantly because someone picked ExDeath if that's what you mean. There's an actual semblance of balance for once.

>>388788861
honestly we both know that guys wrong in saying they're the same. no reason to engage in the argument

>>388788783
>>388788952
id rather have auron but i agree with this guy, developers even said seymour is the expected foil to goodie two shoes yuna

Wanted to try online for the first time today, since I feel bit more confident with the controls, but been stuck on "awaiting for other combatants" for fucking ages. Is it ded?

>>388814845

>>388778426

>>388814845
If you press O and can't go back you have the now rare waiting glitch. Close and reopen to be fine

>>388814886
Fucking kek. I get it now.

>>388815020
No, I got matched after two minutes or so.

So who're Megaflare-tier picks here?
Ramza's support abilities seem busted.

>>388815562
Having a competent team is at the top of the tier list.

>>388814085
They didn't dumb down abilities, they just removed a lot of mechanics.

>>388815624
Obviouse. But there has to be some OP shit.

>>388815896
Does there?

>>388815896
There really isn't. Later characters just have better thought out mechanics, movement, and play styles than the start 14. There's no exudesu bullshit here.

I really need to play zodiac age. I don't remember Vaans part in the Plot at all.

>>388816286
>Vaans part in the Plot
ha

>>388816286
Vaan doesn't get a story until the DS game about spy piracy.

>the only guy that likes the game on dissidia is a black afro stream
That's kind of funny.

>>388816510
One black guy got super pissed and rage quit but that's because he didn't know how to play it seems like. All scrubs are complaining about Cloud.
>I could be winning easily if I played Cloud but I'm not cheap

>>388816976
>All scrubs are complaining about Cloud.

Why, though? Just had a nice 1v1 fight with what seemed like an experienced player and there was no bullshit moves or anything. And his charge attacks are easy as fuck to dodge.

>>388816976
>>388817081
Cloud and Vaan are the silver wall apparently. People just can't deal with them and rage quit. Those niggas don't even know the terror of a good Zidane, Firion, and Tidus.

>>388817081
>>388817125
The most complaints I've seen are for Cloud, WoL, and Firion. Notice a pattern?

>>388816976
I ended up quitting after like a 15 losing streak. I'd use cloud but everybody and their mother uses cloud

>>388817125
Interesting. The most problematic opponents for me so far were Y'shtola and Onion Knight.

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>No one uses Ace's best outfit but everyone goes for his gay looking schoolboy uniform

>>388817184
>complaining about Firion
>the hardest character to play in the beta
They don't realize the extent of git gud you need to go to in order to get groovin with Firion.

I don't even get why they would complain about WoL either.

Cloud has fantastic tracking, wide sweeping BRV attacks, and a quick HP with fucking crazy vertical and horizontal tracking. Even with the charge mechanic he can get a full charge on a wall splat.

Is Tidus' gimmick really inconsistent for anyone else? There are tons of times where I'm dashing and the game still gives me the non-dash attack

>>388817552
Hold the dash down while you press the input then.

>arcade
>level 17 character
>3rd costume and 3rd weapon equipped
>gold rank

Heed my warning. Any maxed character you encounter online when this game comes out that's not above Mithril is a shitter.

>>388817618
Because they leveled up the character but still lost a ton?

>>388817695
Basically. They still haven't learned how to play.

>>388817439
>the hardest character to play
Haha no. And let's not start this shit either.

When a Marksmen starts shooting a target with a multi shot spell when you switch targets will you start shooting at the new target in the middle of the animation?

>>388818410
No

>>388818435
That sounds extremely annoying.

>no quick quit button for leaving the moment I see a bot player on my team

>>388818938
I just had two bots on my team and had to fight against 3 bots on the enemy team. free rank points i guess, but why?

>>388818938
It's not like you lose points

>Tutorial is just a video like the one from Smash if you wait at the title screen
Why

>>388819787
>i-it's just a beta

I guess.

>>388819867
Staggering doesn't change the fact that a beta literally implies an unfinished product.

>>388819937
Stammering*

>>388820394
*stuttering

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>>388820574
Bitch.

>>388820849
You win

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Okay then.

>>388821435
I played with Hanoha earlier. A far better shantotto than cloud.

>>388821435
What did you expect sweetie?

>>388821435
Why'd you get up close to do lord? That shit has a good range so that's completely your fault.

>>388821435
that seemed like a forgone conclusion

>>388821604
Yeah, I guess. I was mainly using Vortex before that, so I guess that's just a bad habit.

Does this game play differently than the previous ones?

Maybe it's just been too long or it's different playing with a controller but it just feels a bit weird.
I don't like that its 3v3 now either...
Also, holy fucking shit that HUD, we better be able to change it in the full game, that shit is crazy.

Also more characters in the final game right?

>>388821717
That's a lot of dumb questions that have already been answered numerous times.

>>388821809
You're a dumb question