What went wrong?

>>388762034
It's not ASB 2

cyberconnect

Jotaro shilling.

Lag in online matches

>>388762409
This.

Why is it so fucking slow?
Why can't they make a fast paced 3D fighter like fucking Naruto?

Shit gameplay.
Story was a Jotaro circle jerk.
No local play.

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The only thing it had to offer over ASB was a story mode and some new characters, the new characters alone weren't enough to save it and the story was shit.

Not enough Dios. And everyone jobbing so that Jotaro can once again get his dick sucked

>>388762034
The main problem with ASB was that it didn't get enough development time for the scope of the project. So instead of just making an improved version using the assets they already had, they instead threw out a bunch of that work to make a brand new game despite having less money and less development time and two systems to develop for.

>Literally the exact same ending as Stardust Crusaders vecause "same stand"
>Jonathan does fuck all

>>388762691
this.

I can't that JoJo's action isn't as fast-paced as other anime but they don't have to reflect that in gameplay.

>>388762789
They went for fanservice (put as many characters as possible) instead of polishing their system

>>388762924
But Stardust Crusaders had the best ending, right? :^)

Why would you spend $60 on this garbage anyways?

If it was $20, i would probably buy it

>>388763421
It's on sale on EU psn for like 15 euros or some shit

Same thing as any crossover game trying to have a story: none of it will be remembered and none of it will have mattered.

Fun ride though. Haven't encounted a CC2 game yet that I didn't enjoy.

Jotaro is overrated as fuck.

Joseph & Josuke >>>>>>>>> Jotaro

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>>388762034
>game has added characters like Weather Report and Diego
>hear the gameplay and story is shit

Heres hoping they announce a new game at the end of Jojofes going on right now

>>388763876
>Jotaro is overated, unlike the two jojo's /a/ has overrated for years

>>388762034
If you're just doing free play fighting it's pretty fun to play as your favorites, see interactions via openings and win quotes.

Story is very boring though

>>388763876
My only knowledge of JoJo is through ASB and EoH. I greatly liked the Parts 4 & 5 JoJo's more than Jotaro. I don't get the hype behind him and why his Part gets by far the most screentime.

I like jotaro and there is nothing you hipster jojo fans can do about it!

>>388762034
Ill say right now that releasing a game that spoils all character deaths was a huge mistake.
Some people are only watching the anime, most who have started reading arent close to catching up.

Put people off

>>388764570
>Buy a game for a series that's 30 years old
>Get mad at spoilers

>>388762409
DUDE
I'M ANGRY
LMAO

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>>388763876
i think you mean gappy and gappy

>>388764978
A game that has had zero western prescense till the anime faggot.

>>388764978
>Series is still ongoing
>Spoils SBR whih is only a couple of years old now

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>>388764536
Why would you have played those games without reading the series? Their only real appeal is in the fanservice.

>1v1 is not
> Fanfiction atory
>The game loves jotaro
>broken

>>388765436
part 3 had the capcom game which got a full english release on every platform, including the PS1 version that has the entire story in it. beyond that the series was pretty popular on 4chan and other places through fan translations. there's also the official translations that parts of europe have been getting for years before the anime was a thing, if you count that as western.

it's ok to be a newfag, but you can't get incredulous that the japanese developers of a japanese game made the game aimed at the japanese fanbase that knows all this shit just because it became more popular in the west recently

>>388765518
SBR ended 6 years ago and every other part besides jojolion which barely even plays into this game is 14 years or older

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>>388765518
SBR has been over for six years. If they spoiled something recent from JJL I would understand being upset, but you have nobody to blame for yourself for expecting the game to not touch upon something that's been completed for six years.

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>>388762409
HEY LOOK, OUR STANDS R THE SAEM LOL

>>388762034
Putting fanservice before gameplay.

The games great if you just want to see this large, diverse collection of characters interact and do the cool stuff they did in the manga/anime, but kinda shit as a fighting game

>>388764570
bro, the newest part is 6yrs fucking old at this point, thats already a little over half a decade old.

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Could there ever be a JoJo game that isn't a fighter or beat em up?

>>388766218
Point and click, or turn based with stands that interact with nearly everything in the environment

>>388766218
that fan made JRPG was pretty good

reusing assets from ASB instead of just making ASB 2

>>388762034
Can't partner with a friend for online battles.

>>388766218
musou

>>388766218
a jojo tbs could be rad as hell, like a wackier disgaea.

>>388766567
thats in the beatemup territory, although a yakuza type jojo game would be sick. part 5 would be the best to adapt that style of game

>>388766567
I see this posted often, and I don't think it would work

JoJo fights (at least with stands) are always about the heroes fighting one or two enemy stand users at a time, it's never about fighting hordes of enemies at a time

That being said it might work if you played as Jonathan and fought zombies or vampires

LITERALLY ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS RESKIN A FUCKING NARUTO GAME AND THEY CAN'T EVEN DO THAT
ALSO ASB SUCKED TOO

>>388766218
sidescrolling castlevania clone based on part 1, zoom punch instead of a whip

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>>388766865
Make it a crossover of all parts with some super-ascended form of Kars as the main villain. Boom. Musou Jojo game.

>>388766567
Would not work for any part other than Phantom Blood and maybe Battle Tendency.

>>388765770
Because I like playing videogames and these seemed fun, and were made by my favorite developer? Its the same with me and Naruto. Only know about it through the games.

Yakuza game about part 4

Boom. I just made a good Jojo

>>388766218
Persona, but with jojo characters.

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It wasn't a AA or even an A version of this
or something similar to this

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>>388767390
Your favorite developer is CC2?

>>388764536

Part 3 is one of the most famous and popular parts.

>>388767529
Yeah, I've enjoyed their stuff since the beginnings back in the PS1 days. Silent Bomer is rad, and Tail Concerto is comfy. Then came .hack// and well... I was hooked.

Part 4 is the best one

>>388768250
>Part 7 is the best one
fixed that

>>388768250
>filler and asspulls because araki didn't know what to do with the series he wanted to end with part 3: the part

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post favorite stands

>>388768250
>>388768331
>Part 7 and Part 4 are both equally the best parts

>>388768489
god, eyelash curlers look horrifying

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>>388768489

>>388768489
Can someone post that fashion design that miu miu's outfit was based on

No F.F.

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>>388768489
Dojyaaan

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>>388768489
Im serious

>>388768990
reminder the president of the united states attempted to rape and impregnate a child

>>388769128
Speed King is such a fucking cool stand.

I hope Jobin isn't the main villain

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>>388768489

For me, it's Paizuri Paku

>>388769615
>>388769759
you can't hide from me

>>388762034
Johnny is green and not blue like in asb

>>388769128
I'm trying to imagine this in a fighting game but it looks like its gonna snap like a twig as soon as you punch it. Might need more muscle.

I accidentally read that in part 7 the body parts they are looking for are from... Yknow. Jesus.

Is that a big spoiler? Something that's a big reveal later in the part or is it fairly early on?

>>388770330
Nah it's pretty basic. That's what they are described as almost as soon as they are shown.

>>388770330
i mean not really

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>>388769805
Well... you've forced my hand. You leave me no choice. If you want to try and uncover my past, then you'll just have to die Anon...

>>388768489
>Jolyne was walking around for 2 days in the forgetful state
>Weather Dude and Pink Hair never contact her
>Fucking Hermes doesn't meet her at all

Explain this NOW

>>388770489
>>388770439
Ok cool. I was worried that I spoiled a huge reveal before even going into the story.

>>388770730
Guess used that entire time period to take advantage of her in her cell.

>>388770839
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOU YOU FUCKER

>>388770909
And at no point did Hermes, the little ghost baseball boy or the other 2 guys thought to go to her cell? Sure.

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>>388766926
Make it all parts crossover with Castlevania Harmony of Despair online gameplay, but more balanced

>>388770730
>trying to make sense of part 6
theres a goddamn nigga whos power was to control the weather but also had the ability to make people into snails but in reality werent even snails because of the sun and rainbows

>>388770839
TELL ME ABOUT THE BOSS
WHY DOES HE USE THE STAND

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>>388762034
>not ASB2, which, while not very good mechanically, was still really fun
>somehow couldn't copy their own Naruto games well enough to make 3D fighting fun
>didn't play it beyond the demo but apparently the story sucks and wanks Jotaro as much as you'd expect, which was believable from the trailers

Just make ASB2, or copy paste the Naruto games, which are much smoother and faster paced. I dunno how they fudged it up so hard

Apart from the shallow gameplay, it's like others said: I like Jotaro myself, but they pushed him way too hard just so they could have a Jotaro/DIO rematch as their grand finale.

>>388771325
DUDE SUBLIMINAL SUN RAYS

Were the poison frogs real? What symbolism does snails hold exactly? It's a little 2deep4me?

They missed their opportunity to give Jonathan a stand so he could fight DIO.

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>>388766218
Jojo Kart

Jojo's doesn't work as a fighting game

They need to stop trying.

Make something similar to Phantom Dust

>>388772518
Isn't The World technically Jonathon's stand though?

>>388772836
No, it's said to be Hermit Purple. It's one of the only instances where a Stand directly moved from generation to generation.

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>>388772760
>Jojo's doesn't work as a fighting game

>>388773043
OK to be more accurate

Jojo's post Part 3 doesn't work as a fighting game.

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>>388772528
>there will never be a wacky races with the jojo cast
i'm kinda sad now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BRhAN2v418

this and valentine telling dio to fuck off were the only good parts of EoH, and one's a fan video

>>388773461
Valentine telling DIO to eat shit with his "Everything is justice" line was probably my favorite cutscene.

>>388773158
Part 1 and 2 could also work. The real problem is in later parts stands get more complex and less like punch ghosts so it's harder to make a fighter

>>388764197
you mean the characters the fanbase actually likes are over rated while the one the author shoves up our ass isn't over rated?

>>388763040
to bad the actual fanserive in combat was better in asb

I've never played either, but what's the difference in ASB that makes it more liked here than EoH?

>>388767474
my extreme autism prevents me from playing this game because none of the characters you can choose actually look like jojo characters

i feel so out of place

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>kiras walk in All Star Battle

>>388774000
sounds more like you are uncreative as fuck, tons of ways to do non punchy stands in a fighter

>>388774296
asb has better gameplay in theory, eoh has bad gameplay period

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>>388768489
How can other stands even compete?

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>>388768489
I don't know what it is about it, but I just love KC.

>>388769128
I loved the original design, I don't know about the redesign though. I might change my mind when I get to see it in action though. JJL has great Stands all around though, California King Bed and Fun Fun Fun are the only ones I don't really like.

>>388774296
All-Star Battle is a more conventional 2D fighter that still finds ways to translate the various Stand powers and gimmicks into workable mechanics. The combos were pretty cool, and the fanservice was great.

Eyes of Heaven, by comparison, has more characters, but the throwbacks aren't as obvious, and the game is somehow much more shallow than ASB.

>>388762034

The fact that it was a shitty Naruto Ultimate Storm copy and not an actual fighter.

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Gay priest is here now.

>>388774440
They can't. That's why Araki wrote Fugo out of the story: he couldn't figure out any meaningful challenges for Purple Haze.

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>>388769365
>I hope Jobin isn't the main villain
Why not? He has the potential to be one of the best antagonists in the series. It would be interesting if Kaato or just some new character was the antagonist, but I'll be happy with Joubin.

>>388774440
>So broken and dumb it had to be hastily and lazily written out of the story
>Is your fav

Lol

>>388774583
No, Araki wrote Fugo out of the story because his original intent was to have Fugo betray the party at some point, but due to personal issues at the time he couldn't handle the thought of writing something like that, so he just wrote him out.

>>388763421
It was 20$ not so long ago. I know because I bought it then

>>388774705
who the fuck would betray araki :(

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>>388774652
>His standfu can't compete

>>388774583
That's not why, he explains it as being this >>388774705 in JoJonium or some art book. Just read Purple Haze Feedback for evidence that PH can have fights where Fugo doesn't end it all in an instant.

>>388768489
REDU
HOTTU
CHILLI
PEPPA

Also Echoes: Act 2

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>ditch 1v1 scraps for shitty 2v2 shonen JUMP bullshit
>expand the roster with characters everybody wanted, then shit all over it by making most of them garbage
>unique storyline written by Araki himself turns out to be a Jotaro wankfest
>the most DIO of the DIOs being a complete fucking idiot and a huge eyesore in addition to being unplayable
>polished graphics squandered by huge, poorly made levels
>animations sped the fuck up so voice actors have to rush
>godlike fanservice from the first game squandered by four idiots audibly screaming no matter where the fuck you are
>no fucking couch modo
>no baoh

>no local multiplayer

This killed it above all else.

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>>388768489

Legit best girl in the franchise.

>>388768990
Most excellent taste.

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5 > 7 > 6 > 3 > 2 > 4 >1

why are all the stands post part 3 crazy abstract robot fucking shits

>>388774809
Literally and stand could beat literally any other stand.

JoJo is 100% asspulls. You have to be actually brain-dead to not realise this.

>ending is literally just Part 3's ending
>didn't even use Johnathan, who had the same bullshit plot twist as the braces.

>>388775153

7=2 > 4 > 5= 3 > 6 > 1

JoJolion is unranked because it's unfinished, no part is bad.

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>>388775153
>3 that high
>3 over 4
>5 over 7

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>>388775019
>Never even existed in the end

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>>388775161
Robot stands are the coolest you homo.

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Best character

>>388775161
whats wrong, scared of the big meany robots? want your big fucking fire chicken back huh? kill yourself

>>388775453
why doesn't gappy just removed the concept of life from someone

>>388775354

Just the Foo Fighters we knew. Her original Stand User never got Pucci'd so they're probably out there living ok. Though one must wonder how F.F. works in a human body without going full Pillar Man.

>>388775161
1+2 are just Fist of the North Star rip offs with generic ki/chi energy gimmick.
3 was when he had a unique idea but mostly used it for normal battle and combat powers.
4 and beyond was when he went fully creative and came up with as much crazy and interesting ideas as possible.

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>>388775348
3 has good fights like darbys, hanged man and Cream. Decent art near the end too.
4 has awful art with midgets and
>>388768385

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>>388775485
HURR DURR I HATE THE WORLD BRO EVERYONE SHOULD DIE I HATE HUNANITY REEEEEEE

>>388775485
>Kind of a weirdo
>Even bigger weirdo around Jolyne
>Got an entire arc centered around him losing his shit

>>388775664
Can you blame Weather for having that ideology after all the god damn bullshit he goes through

>>388762034
Based on a shit IP

>>388772528
These fucking car names are killing me, jesus christ.

>>388762409
>>388766181
>fuck you jotaro reality is my own personal fanfiction i can do whatever i want
>oh yeah?? well i can pull a star finger out of my ass and suck bones its practically the same thing lmao, your ded now because callbacks and my dad works at cc2
>u pissed me off....

FUCKING

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>>388775536
I think there's a part early on where it says what specifically S&W can take and I guess life isn't included in that.

>>388775546
But the original stand user has nothing to do with the plankton given intelligence. F.F was her own person. She's just a fucking dumb sea urchid in the end. Never given intelligence.

>>388775701
Yes. Yes I can.

Could any JoJo beat Goku? I doubt it

>>388775536
Doesn't remove concepts, it removes properties. He probably could do that but most of his enemies have been covert and kept distance from him, and once he actually came within fighting range he instantly kills them.

>>388775994
Giorno could, so long as he has GER.

>>388763876
Popular isnt the same thing as overrated, dummy

>>388776019
>Soft and Wet could be a less brutal form of Metallica if applied correctly

I hope Araki ends up making this happen.

>>388775153
Doppio is so cute I want to wpound his boipucci.

>>388776174
Araki retconned this in the latest chapter. Now he just makes bubbles that can explode like Kira Kuin

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>>388776208
Do not sex the Doppio.

>>388774583
Wasn't there some kind of semi-official lite-novel where he goes on some kind of redemption mission for Giorno with a bunch of Hendrix-song-named people's Stands? The concept sounded pretty cool.

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Best Girl wasn't in it.

>>388776292
He could always make bubbles that exploded like KQ's that was explained very early on and he did it when he was fighting the Aphex Twins. Josefumi could only use S&W to take things, but Gappy adopted part of Kir8's powers so he can blow up his bubbles and use them like Josefumi.

>>388776387
Purple Haze Feedback. It's a pretty good novel, would recommend.

>>388776387

Shameless Purple Haze. And it's fucking great.

>>388766567
Fuck off

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>>388776334
I want to cum on his freckles!

>>388775153
>That rushed fucking ending
>That completely unexplained "demons crawling in people's skin" shit
>WOW I'M DEAD BUT I HAVE BULLSHIT MAGIC ARMOR SO U CANT KILL ME HAHA
>GER makes literally no sense

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That's Purple Haze Feedback. It's great, Giorno's great in it too despite being a little boring in Part 5. His personality is much more suited to being the boss than being a rebel within the gang like he qas in VA. All of the Stands that appear in it are cool as well.

>>388776689
If the third point's about Bruno, that's a pretty common trope, isn't it? Having such a strong will that you keep living despite your biological functions halting and all.

>>388776835
He lives for for like 3 days despite literally being a corpse

>>388762034
No PS3 version port for the west.

>>388762120
This too, ASB had a great gameplay.

>>388776903
Like I said, fairly common trope.
i just find it really cool and love it, im sorry anon

>>388776781
Oops >>388776387

>start reading part 6
>stands are already being recycled. Stone Free is just a Sticky Fingers + Hermit Purple rehash, and the very first enemy stand is the fucking shrinking stand from part 5

This is why he should've stuck with Hamon. It's much more open to creativity

>>388776903
>"lives"
He's like a zombie and his body was slowly starting to fail him. Golden Experience only helped him go on for a little while.

>>388776689
Only the demon point is legitimate. That was weird as hell.

>>388776903
It's almost like there's a stand that gives life to things or something. Woah.

>>388777186
He switched from the Ripple to Stands precisely because he ran out of ideas for it with Joseph.

>>388777186

Mate, stick with it. Stone Ocean's Stands start slow and get WACKY.

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>there are people out there who actually think generic magic sunlight energy is more interesting than stands

>>388777186
Part 6 is the only one with that problem, Araki admits he was getting disappointed with himself during part 6, returning to form in 7 and 8.

>>388777186
>This is why he should've stuck with Hamon. It's much more open to creativity
You cannot possibly believe that. You mean the thing that was basically chi/ki/chakra/nen/energy/haki/everything in every shonen ever.

>>388777186
If by "creativity" you mean just doing whatever the plot demands it to, then sure. But having characters who can do anything at all because of their invincible kung-fu sun magic isn't very engaging.

>>388777186
Stand 6 literally has the most crazy and creative stands of the whole series.

Also how the fuck is Stone Free like Sticky Fingers? And are you saying it's like Hermit Purple because it can... Reach things? Talk about reaching

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>tfw spin will NEVER be back

>>388777330
The switch was hard to get used to in the beginning.
Spin>Regular Stands>Hamon

Why are Jojo threads much better on /v/ than on /a/? Jojo threads on /a/ are literally blogposting general

>>388777336
>returning to form in 7
Spin was fucking cancer though. It made part 7 unreadable.

I skipped that part because of it

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>>388775723
This desu

>>388777568
The Spin was the not-Ripple. It just transitioned to Stands anyway.

>>388777529
Because, generally speaking, /a/ has been talking about JoJo for a while. /v/ only really started to have threads with the anime and ASB + EoH. The topic hasn't been discussed to death here, and there's infrequency to it.

>>388777529
because /v/ discusses things, same reason monster hunter and ffxiv discussions stay off of /vg/

>>388777568
>Skipping parts
>Skipping part 7
You missed out anon. Act 4 is stand kino.

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>>388777503
>spin at the top
Patrician taste.

>>388777330
Especially when it's just magically applied to be useful in whatever fucking context necessary. That hangglider was bullshit and you know it.

I don't think hamon's more interesting, but I'd have liked for it to phase out a bit more naturally. Why didn't Joseph at least try and teach Jotaro some basics when they were going after a /vampire?/

>>388778104
Because that shit takes years for anyone who isn't a natural savant to utilize.

>>388778104
I agree with that. Although I believe that Joseph is implied to be sending it through his hermit purple whenever he uses it offensively. He actually says he is a few times and the way it's usually drawn it looks like there's energy coursing through it. What pissed me off more was how despite Joseph being fine ten years prior to part 4 and still using his hamon he aged rapidly despite hamon keeping the body in good shape. I get he supposedly stopped using it but that just doesn't line up with how it slowed aging in Parts 1 and 2.

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>>388775518
Hey, fuck you. I liked that fire chicken and the dude he was attached to.

>>388775518
Magician's Red was cool you faggot

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Do you prefer the old artstyle or the new?

Im kinda sad that manga IP's generally doesn't get made by other people. Kind of like Marvel comics.

But at the same time im happy it doesn't get handed to people who would likely ruin it. Like marvel comics.

>>388768250
Except not

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>>388778608
Old.

In late Part 7 everyone was Britney Spears wearing different wigs, thankfully this got fixed in part 8.

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>>388778608
>Unironically liking EVERYONE being twinks

Does it have to be EVERYONE? Even the giant muscular god's?

Look at this shit

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>>388778608
The current artstyle and mid Part 4 are the best. Late part 3 is also great. My only major issue with the current artstyle is that while some panels are extremely detailed and good looking, the ones in-between can look very sloppy and rushed, but the ones that do get attention look good enough that I can ignore those other ones being a bit ugly. There's also still a small same-face issue, but I think it was mostly phased out after SBR.

>>388778897
>Manlet Cars
Pffftha

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>>388778417
>black guy
>his stand is fried chicken
BRAVO ARAKI

>>388762034
coming to pc

>>388778897
But he just looks like Gappy...

Stands were a mistake

>>388777662
i'm really fucking glad that we're getting another traditional dbz fighting game

i just wish it had oc donuts from xenoverse. i can never get enough donuts

>>388774583
>Fugo's stand is too broken
>Chariot Requiem, King Crimson and GER still stay in the story
Yeah i dont buy it

>>388779108
>black guy
>his stand is a big hot cock
BRAVISSIMO SIGNORE ARAKI

>>388778889
Why do Johnny and Gyro look like more attractive women here than Lucy

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>Part 4's finale was over half a year ago
>Part 5 STILL hasn't even been offically confirmed

Why the fuck is this allowed

>>388779348
GER and Chariot R are meant to be broken end game level stands you dumb fuck.

King Crimson isn't broken. He actively avoids taking on a group of people the entire story because he knew he would get REKT if he had to fight more than 1 person at a time. Hardly an OP stand.

>>388779108
>black guy
>first party member to die
>Araki brings him back only to kill him first AGAIN

>>388779676
To Abdul's credit, Hol Horse said that as far as team DIO was concerned, Abdul was considered the most dangerous of the Crusaders/Joestar Tour Group (not counting Jotaro himself). That's why it was "lucky" that he was first to go.

>>388779217
>being a contrarian faggot
Pre-part 3 jojo was nothing but a fist of the north star ripoff

>>388779640

Rohan OVA. Adapting a novel takes a lot more work.

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>>388775153
>6 that high

>>388771614
he is a big boss

>>388779997

>Not liking Araki at his most batshit
>Not liking third best Jojo

>>388778608
For the most part I prefer the new one but whenever he draws older characters in the new style it always looks weird. I think Joseph and Jonathan suffer the most since they were so huge.

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Name a more useless stand

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>>388779641
>Completely bodied post-part 3 Polnareff, one of the most experienced stand users in the series
>Effortlessly killed Bruno
>It literally took 2 requiem stands to defeat him
>Killed Narancia without even being noticed
>Diavolo doesnt have an op stand

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>>388775294
You, anon, are good people.

>>388780403
look i love pol but he's a pretty big jobber, don't deny it

>>388780403

To be fair, King Crimson is mostly bullshit because of its combo with Epitaph. Without that Diavolo isn't able to see the future he omits.

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Narancia in part 5 is the same age as Jotaro in part 3.

>>388779404
FOTTITI
>>388780075
>The first part is 2/10
>The second part is 8/10
Part 6 is overrated as part 4

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>>388766218
Diabolo's great adventure is easily the best Jojo game and it's one of the best roguelike games.

>>388780382
Tenore Sax. Oooh, it can make it look like you're in a different room... Kenny G is arguably even more of a shit than Nukesaku.

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>>388780382

>>388780965

>Non-bullshit version of Dragon's Dream
>Useless

>>388763876
Jonathan is unironically my favorite JoJo.

>>388780530
The guy might constantly get into trouble due to his stupidity but when it comes to pure fighting skills, he's definetly something else, his fights against Anubis and Ice are the best examples of that.

>>388781042
>A stand who's only power is being able to say encouraging things to make you feel better
>not useless

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>>388772528
>Danny powered

>>388781245
self-esteem is the most powerful ability of all

>>388780382
Nothing will be worse than Cheap Trick.

>>388781245
Are you telling me having a stand that always makes you feel better isnt perfect?

>tfw the series will never make a leap like the one from Part 2 -> Part 3
How long have we had Stands now? 20+ years? Would be nice for something new to show up...

>>388775994
If we're talking just Jojos then Giorno with GER or Johnny with Tusk Act 4.
There are other characters who could annihilate him and more who could maybe win.

>>388781245
Having Hey Ya would just feel like having an asshole on my shoulder patronizing me.

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>>388768489
no contest

>>388781550
Part 7 had spin, so there was that

>>388781245
It only sounds usless because you havn't thought about the psychological part of Stand Fights.

Besides, I'm pretty sure Steel Ball run had a luck-based Stand that did nothing but say positive things and he did fine.

>>388777186
>hamon
>much more open to creativity
Stands are hamon though, retard.

>>388781830
>Besides, I'm pretty sure Steel Ball run had a luck-based Stand that did nothing but say positive things and he did fine.
That's the stand he was talking about.

>>388781391
>flying photograph shoots me in the neck with some arrow
>tells me I'm going to receive a powerful ability and explains to me what a stand is
>Fuck head stand murders me after telling a passerby to look at my butthole

Poor guy got fucked

>>388781550
Yeah but stands give you pretty much unlimited possibilities, araki doesn't need to introduce anything new

>>388775994
I'd be surprised if there's a character who Valentine wouldnt be able to oneshot with D4C

>>388762409
tpbp

>>388781550
It's not gonna happen, I'm afraid! It became the series trademark, and different from how it was in its origin, Jojo isn't copying anyone else's style!

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>create a villain that is so ridiculously overpowered he can't be defeated unless it is with a last-second asspull
Parts 4 and 6 are the only two parts that don't follow this pattern

>>388762034
I honestly liked jojo more when it was about hamon users. Of course stands are cool but I wish they had one more part dedicated to them

>>388781892
so does any kind of made up magical power

there was nothing stopping hamon from stopping time or throwing fireballs and shit

>>388781391
How can a stand that kills you if you show your back to someone be useless?

>>388773393
>What is SBR

>>388781693
>most stands have 1 power
>jk lol this guy has like 8 powers also a pocket stand to give him even more powers

trash

what would kira kween reqiuem be like

>>388780382
Highway to hell

>>388762409
SAME

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>>388775019
>>388775354

>>388782201
isn't that just bites the dust?

Why was part 5 so obsessed with stands that make something melt? There were like 50 "your body will rot and fall apart" stands, Trish and that one guy that could swim in any surface were all about morphing and melting the environment, there was the deflation guy, and Sticky Fingers pretty much always ripped someone's limb off, and Fugo's stand made things rot and die

I can't be the only one that noticed this

>>388774359
Iirc you can play as Josuke

>>388782079
What about part 1 and part 7???
Valentine is defeated in a shoot out between him and Johnny, where Johnny only has the power of Act 1. AU Diego isn't even killed by Johnny.

>>388782275
Araki was just going through some dark times.

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>>388768489
>great design
>great fight
>isn't killed via asspull, the gang had to actually exploit a weakness
Who else /whitealbum/?

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Jotaro>Joseph>Jolyne>Johnny>GioGio>Josuke>Johnathon
Disliking Jotaro is just broadcasting to the world that you're a brainlet who can't into reading comprehension and/or haven't read the manga.
I do agree that "our stands are the same" was a dumb explanation.

>>388774359
That's because you are supposed to feel out of place. You literally shouldn't exist in that story because you can alter the variables and change fate.

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>>388762034
Cheap gameplay, terrible netcode, and a tedious single player campaign. Fan service does it's job, but it's no ASB.

I'm glad I got this shit for $20.

>>388782479
"HONEY WHERE IS MY SUPER SUIT" The Stand.

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>>388768489

>>388782239
By the end of part 4, Killer Queen has three explicit powers.
>"Anything I touch becomes a bomb"
>Sheer Heart Attack - a heat-seeking remote bomb
>Bites the Dust - Anyone who exposes Kira's identity is blown up and triggers a Groundhog's Day loop until Kira can find who set it off and kill them (using Bites the Dust renders Kira defenseless)
Stray Cat was an entirely separate Stand that Killer Queen hid in its body, so that it could use its "anything I touch is a bomb" power on the concentrated jets of air.

>>388782079
Part 4 had the opposite problem, honestly. Jotaro, Rohan and Okuyasu were so overpowered that Araki had to make the first two deaf while the later was incapacitated for most of the fight from being caught off guard, and even then, Kira had a ton of plot armor, luck and a supremely overpowered third ability.

>tfw Okuyasu completely trivialized Kira when he woke up

>>388782153
Because it only works if the user dies.

See also: Notorious B.I.G.

>>388776689
>>That completely unexplained "demons crawling in people's skin" shit
I don't remember what this is referencing at all

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>>388782479
>mfw gold experience starts kicking him into the pole

AWAKEN MY MASTERS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sblR0eIRW-I

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>Generic Shonen with sunlight powers is better than Generic Shonen with monsters!
>No, Generic Shonen with monsters is more creative, Generic Shonen with sunlight powers was getting boring!

>>388763876
I've always liked Jotaro, honestly. Josuke is better, but I never really understood the overwhelming Joseph preference.

>>388782704
no no i meant isn't killer queen requiem just bites the dust? he got it after getting stabbed with a stand arrow a second time, which is how requiem stands normally work

>>388782528
How do you read the entire manga and still put Jotaro in anything higher than bottom 3?

>>388782479
Real talk he's probably one of my favorites too, his fight was hype as fuck but I'm also biased because I really like cold-based fighters.

However White album is also the first chapter Araki just kinda forgot/started ignoring the feedback damage effect of Gold Experience's created life so it's a mixed bag.

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>>388768489
I am extremely fond of swarm Stands.

>>388782201
Killer Queen Bites The Dust is a requiem stand. Remember the arrow pierces him again.

>>388782320
>Valentine is defeated in a shoot out between him and Johnny, where Johnny only has the power of Act 1.
Not really, D4C love train is defeated by tusk act 4, which I still would consider an asspull

>>388782803
Kira himself was stabbed by the arrow to get Bites the Dust. A Requiem Stand happens when the Stand itself is stabbed.

>>388782836
Because he's the most fleshed out character and eventually becomes an ocean man

>>388782774
>monsters
t.someone who never read jojo

>>388782275
Because part 4 was underperforming, slice of Life is boring

>>388782876
>thinking Araki can handle continuity
Remember when Anasui was female or Spice Girl was a giant bird?

>>388782708
>Okuyasu

How many fights Okuyasu had in the entire series not counting the one against Josuke? Dude has such awesome skill but it seems that Koichi was the only character that could fight.

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>>388782528
>Josuke and Giorno that low
I agree with your sentiment about Jotaro, but come on, son.

Johnny > Josuke > Jolyne > Giorno > Jotaro > Joseph > Jonathan

>>388782708
>Okuyasu
He could have solved every problem in part 4 by himself if it wasn't for one fatal flaw. He's damn near retarded

>>388783193
Okuyasu is meant to be an example of what happens when an absurdly powerful Stand is handicapped by being attached to an idiot.

>>388783184
The bird handprint was just Trish softening the ground where her hand was, it happened again in Notorious BIG

>>388783193
His only other solo fight was against Red Hot Chili Peppers and even then he lost

>>388782275
To be fair it kind of fits thematically.

>>388782716
I remember that part
The "demon's" are just souls

>>388783193
The only other 1v1 he gets is against Red Hot Chilli Pepper. He manages to fuck him up pretty badly, but gets tricked into opening a path to an electric wire, which energized RHCP back to full power and BTFOs him.
He sorta fought Shigechi alongside Josuke, but all he really did was lore him and then pull the lottery ticket away so Josuke could destroy it.

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>>388783250
Its not that Giorno is bad, I just like the others more. I didn't really care for Josuke though.
Why do you rate Josuke so high? Maybe I missed something

>>388783460
More like RHCP escaped because Okuyasu accidentally cleaved a landline.

>>388783558
>>388783558
Escaped and would've killed Okuyasu had it not been for Josuke saving his ass

>>388783438
But he couldn't?
Hermit Purple was getting "jammed" by all the stand users

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>>388776418
fucking this

>>388782876
Requiem Arrow aren't normal stand arrow

>>388782528
>Jotaro so high
>Josuke so low
>Jolyne over Johnny

Wew

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ASB PC/PS4 VERSION WHEN

>>388783747
Yes they are. Where did you even get that from?

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>>388782528

>>388777529
>mods are cracking down on Jojo threads
thank fuck. didn't they move to /trash/ for a while?

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>>388783554
Simply for his design and the way his character is written. Josuke felt like the perfect mix of Joseph and Jotaro, imo.

>>388783851
Diovalo should honestly be ranked behind Jotaro in terms of power. Pucci probably belongs in front of Jotaro considering part 6.

I know it's been disproven already but I still think The World being Johnathan's stand rather than DIO's makes more sense than his stand being a slightly better Hermit Purple.

>>388784117
The JoJo's and the main villains are separated

>>388784117
Protags and antags are seperated.
Also Pucci himself says that Jotaro would have beat him if he didn't have to worry about protecting jolyne

>>388783851
Pucci and Valentine were both better written characters than DIO.

>>388768765

>The World: "wher' ya bich @?"

>>388783525
when did that happen? I also don't remember and demon's souls part in VA

>>388783851
Johnny over Jotaro, Act 4 moves in stopped time and one touch is an instant kill.
Diavolo could rape everyone there except MIH Pucci.

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>>388784232
agreed, especially with Valentine

Dio Brando > DIO
In terms of both writing and design.

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>>388784390
>diavolo beating DIO

>>388784390
Wasn't Act 4 only able to move within stopped time because it had made it's own pocket dimension beforehand?

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>>388783836

>>388784390
>Johnny over Jotaro

So why did Johnny lose to Dieago?

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>>388782079
>create a villain that is so ridiculously overpowered he can't be defeated unless it is with a last-second asspull
>the endings for Parts 4 and 6 weren't asspulls

Kira shouting his name out loud was just hack writing by Araki, that shit was retarded. Also Weather Report having yet another hidden ability was also an asspull and how did Emporio get another stand anyway when he already has a stand?

>>388784523
You can't stop time if time gets deleted senpai

>>388777529
Not always.
Sometimes some retard derails it to reference memes till it gets deleted

>>388775354
The rain at the end of what a wonderful world

>>388784603
The World's time stop is longer than the period of time that Diavolo can stop

>>388784681
But epitaph can see 10 sec into the future

>>388784681
>The World's time stop is longer than the period of time that Diavolo can stop

Diavolo skips time, he doesn't stop it. He can skip over the time that is stopped.

>>388784681
I thought The World was only shown to stop time for 9 seconds in Part 3. Diavolo can delete 10 seconds.
>>388784664
If confirmed that's pretty neat

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>>388783318
>Jolyne is the opposite
B R A V O A R A K I

>>388784843
Diavolo can only skip five seconds.
The World is 9+

>>388784232
i will never consider Valentine a well written character until someone explains how the fuck he goes through a complete physical transformation out of nowhere that nobody even mentions or seems to notice

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>>388784681
>>388784842
>>388784843
>>388784873
Diavolo really doesn't have any way of killing Dio due to his refrigeration as a vampire.
Any creative things Diavolo could have done thanks to his stand is null'd due to the fact it and the World just basically cancel each other out give or take a second.

>>388782079
>create a villain that is so ridiculously overpowered he can't be defeated unless it is with a last-second asspull
Diavolo almost died to Metallica and the guy didn't even know who Doppio was.

>>388782079
How can anyone say 5 is an ass pull, they entire ending is dedicated to them getting the arrow, then they're paid off for it.

The only major asspull was Star Platinum having time stop.

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>>388782959
Superior ocean man coming through.