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Goddamn they made Blue Sphere hard
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I hope this leads to a Sonic Advance revival series.
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Denuvo
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Dyson Sphere
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Is this game worth twenty bucks
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>>388759668
There's so many small references they got away with it's ridiculous
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>Denuvo
I bought it and i'm rooting for the pirates to crack that shit
oc meme donut steal
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Sonic Forces is a good game
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why is it so hard to swing to the left on those windmill poles in Battery Assault?
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>>388760782

Have you tried holding left?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkGMJpbg_IA
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>>388760460

On console yes
On PC FUCKING DENUVO
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>>388760404
Could Eggman build an E G G S P H E R E?
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>>388760782
>>388760843
Yeah you just have to hold a direction dude.
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>>388760404
>>388760926
dyson egg zone
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>>388760843
>>388760956
Playing on Keyboard. The Jump button for Q lets me go left if I hold left. I dunno why the Jump buttom for S and A don't let me when I hold left.
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>>388760637
Why is Jimmy so angry?
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THEY ADDED THE FUCKING BUZZ FROM THE LIVESTREAM
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Denuvo general?
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>>388761530
His boss fight was shit so he assumed that the tribute was to someone they hated.
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>>388761530
Because he just got revived from a car accident.
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>>388761530
Because he died in a car crash

http://info.sonicretro.org/Polygon_Jim
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>>388761630
Studiopolis is packed with references
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>>388762057
The fight isn't that bad.
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Can somebody tell me what's so bad about Denuvo?
I bought the game on PC and I've yet to even notice a difference from the console versions my friends have
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>>388762619
don't forget

>By the mania for the mania
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>>388762982
I'm sure there are more as well
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>>388762906

Its just /v/ being retarded. And they won't admit it but most people are just buttmad that Denovo actually does its fucking job. It'll eventually get cracked but with denovo it takes like 3 weeks+.
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>>388762906
Having to be online to play a single player game is the issue for most people but it's not really why I hate it. The reason I hate it is because it is an attempt to prevent the game from being modded. It's an insult for Sega to slip this in behind the backs of Taxman and Co., who started out their careers as modders. Modding Sonic games is the reason that they made it to where they are today, it's ass backwards for Sega to not allow people to mod Mania.
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>>388762906

Always Online bullshit.

It's not a requirement, and Mania's been fixed to work offline, but when this shit started it got a rep that it won't shake any time soon.
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>>388759668
This game is so fucking shit i cant believe peple are buying this 8bit piece of shit are we living in 1998? wtf is happening
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>>388760465
What an I looking at here?
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>I just found out about this
I hate when /v/ is right.
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>>388763925
You can just say "bump" you know?
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>>388762906
Online requirements, mostly. If those Denuvo servers go down, then the game will be unplayable without a patch to remove the service, you also need to be online periodically as well. There's rumors of it fucking up hard drives, but there's no proof to that as far as I know. Lastly, it can affect performance if implemented poorly, but I do not believe it was for Mania.
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>>388762906
always online
it used to be also an ssd drive killer but that's no longer an issue as far as i know
most other complaints can be said about steam's regular offerings as well, which no-one really bitches about anymore
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>>388762906
It's DRM, it dictates when where and how you can play the shit you payed money for it's that simple
>but le steam is drm too
it's also the platform you buy shit from and far from invasive
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Why would you ever play as anything but sonic + tails?
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Got the bad ending tonight. Fuck, Titanic Monarch's bosses were tough as nails
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>>388764751
tails is a patrician's choice
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>>388764914
>Titanic Monarch's bosses were tough as nails

You're either 12 or never played a sonic game before.

>The boss from Flying Battery again
>Either get teleported to a minigame every now and again OR wear a lightning shield

Hell, Act 2 even stops being a threat the moment he loses one bungie cord. Past that point you can do enough attacks per charge to knock off another one and he can no longer teleport you out.
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anyone else get this glitch?
is it a glitch?
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>>388764751

Because & knuckles
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>>388765215
but sonic + tails can still use tails to fly around and break the platforming without having to give up the fun mobility stuff sonic gets or being a homo that likes tails. You can even have him fly into bosses while you manouver around
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>>388759668
Just finished on PC. Why did a lot of poeple here hate the bosses? I thought they were great.
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>>388765478
The bosses are more involved than they are in most Sonic games, but this is in no way a bad thing.
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>Lava Reef 1
>poke around the lower areas this time

this level is a lot bigger than I thought it was
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>>388765369
How did you trigger it?
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>>388765478
I feel like there is something wrong with that boss like the jump gravity doesn't feel right
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>>388760916
can't I just pirate it on console then? if it has no denuvo
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>>388765478
Its too hard for them because they are eenie weenies
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>>388765478
The only boss I hate is Metal Sonic, because that shit can take over 9 minutes
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>>388765478

I don't hate them, but my personal gripe is that the only ones that feel really original are a handful of robots (green hill act 2, battery act 2) and the hard boiled heavies. Everything else is either a copypaste from a previous game or has a gimmick that gets old and boring on subsequent runs.

>Push eggman into spikes!
>Mean bean machine reference that's way too easy!
>Navigate a sinking stage and then ride the eggman machine!
>Trash compactor that slowly closes until you can kill the boss in 3 hits!
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>>388765795

How? The mini silver sonic sections?

>Wait for one to go to a corner and spindash
>Spin into it
>Guaranteed hit
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Ok guys:

>Favorite Remixed Zone
>Favorite New Zone

For me it'd be Stardust Speedway and Titanic Monarch Zone. I love the sense of speed you get in both of them and how they reward skilled gameplay.
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>>388765657
I have no idea. I just entered the portal while flying and he started glowing red.
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>>388765478
i loved the bosses but some of them drag on for a long time
flying battery's boss takes fucking forever and has really janky physics and hitboxes
stardust speedway's boss is longer than the stage itself and hydrocity act 2 has two full length bosses for some reason
oil ocean's boss was my favorite though, that shit was tight
i have no idea how the leaker managed to game over a dozen times on that stage
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>>388765927
You don't know if it's going to jump, or dash to the other side then jump back
And whenever I hit it it just goes in a weird direction or doesn't bounce high enough or I drop it
and that's only phase 2 of 4
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>>388765478
Too scripted and minigamey. I prefer to just jump on eggmans car.

Chemical Plant Zone 2 boss was the best part of the game though.
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>>388765795
I'm going to be glad when the super button patch hits consoles since getting to this fight with super already on is the pits.

>have 100+ rings when it begins
>run out during the only phase where it's easy to get hit (the last one)
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>>388765369
>>388765990
>american tails
wow.... tax man thought of everything
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>>388765971
Chemical Plant, I love the goo gimmick in the second act and wish it was in the first act. First act being a mashup of both acts from the original with some extra stuff is cool, and mean bean machine is great.
I liked Press Garden the most, the bosses are easy but satisfying and the stage itself is pretty relaxing. I'd probably pick Mirage Saloon if it had three acts, I liked the sky chase part but having only one "normal" act sucks (I know knuckles apparently gets two but I haven't played through it as him yet and he's my least favorite character)
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>>388763225
The off the air screen at the end of the act2 boss is actually from the anniversary stream when they had a technical malfunction, same sound and the screen itself has the date the stream was running
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>>388762619
>WELCO
>METOT
>HENEX
>LEVEL
>WELCOMETOHENEXLEVEL
>WELCOME TO THE NEX LEVEL
>NEX
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>>388766140
just spindash while he spawns a new one

either they do the claw, or they duck and spindash, thats the gimmick. They only jumping spindash if you're in the air.
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>>388765795
>>388765927
>boss is actually fun when you just time your jumps or juggle the silver sonics, although it's really tough completing it this way as knuckles
>boss becomes way too easy when you learn to just spindash it
I still would have preferred a duel with Metal.
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>>388766529
He might not be your least favorite for long, a Knuckles playthrough in Mania is great. He gets access to all new routes in almost all of the levels and Mirage Saloon Act 1 is amazing.
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>>388766140
When the silver sonic spawns and decides to start charging a spin dash from the middle of the screen, hit it with a single-rev spindash. It's a guaranteed hit on the boss from there.
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>>388766529
>(I know knuckles apparently gets two but I haven't played through it as him yet and he's my least favorite character)
The music that plays for Knuckles in that level redeems anything bad about a Knuckles run.
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What the fuck is this shit?
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>>388767190
destroy the tentacle arms first anon.
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The bosses were great. Both the Flying Battery Act 2 boss and Metal Sonic can be beaten fairly quickly. The spider stays on the ground if you keep hitting his bumper and the Silver Sonics always bounce into metal if you spindash into them right after they spawn.
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>Beat game and get emeralds after
>Game over on real final boss
>Can't care enough to attempt it because I don't feel like replaying the final stage again and I know the ending already.
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>>388764751
>Implying
Sonic alone/Knuckles are the better choices.
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>>388766890
>>388767116
that's fucking stupid i assumed you had to hit it out of the air and into metal or it'd just explode as usual
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>>388767102
>>388767123
i'm definitely going to get to him, i'm almost done with tails
i'm just afflicted with PTSD from the sonic 2 and knuckles run i did right before release
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>>388767453
sonic alone doesn't have access to tails to carry him to higher paths or cheese bosses, and knuckles is a slow clunky piece of shit that can't even properly use his glide/climb stuff most of the time because of the new level design being specifically aimed to retard it
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Oil Ocean is the worst zone, right?
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>>388767519
Knuckles is hard mode. His jump a shit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIkD2KvmmEQ

do you like the song i made

x
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>>388767453
You objectively have more options with Sonic + Tails. It's a great choice for a first run if you still want to use Sonic and not just Tails.
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>>388767615
Hydrocity, bruh
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>>388767608
>Clunky
Unless you glide every time you jump like a retard he plays mostly like Sonic.
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>>388767808
except with a worse jump, no shield powers or drop dash/peel out for speed/mobility that makes the glide look like shit
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>>388767615
It is probably Hydrocity since Act 1's bubble gimmick doesn't really improve the level. It also seems mandatory.
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>>388767669
Yes.
>>388767712
It's weird. I love HC in 3&K, but it's only okay to decent in Mania.
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Sonic is shit tier and designed for autists
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>>388759668
Great game.
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>>388768126
hi
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>>388768126
(You)
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Titanic Monarch > Death Egg
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>>388762619
God damn I love Studiopolis.
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>>388768638
I like the actual stages in TMZ better, but Death Egg had a lot of buildup and actually paid off on that buildup well.

Titantic Monarch just sort of abruptly happens and isn't punctuated by as grand of a finale.
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>>388767507
me too
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The only Sonic experience in my life was playing on my old dumbphone, and I remember having fun with it. Knowing this, would it be worth the $20 investment? It's not a PC purchase, so Denuvo is not an issue
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Anyone else notice the discussion surrounding this game went to shit the second it released on PC? What is wrong with you mustards?
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What if Mania 2 had stages that were actual 2D Saturn-esque conversions of 3D stages not that we're getting mania 2 anymore
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>>388769395
>Is this blatantly very well received game which looks extremely fun worth playing
yes
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>>388759668
Should I use controller or keyboard?
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>>388769692
>Is this blatantly well received game
I don't trust review scores at all
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>>388769408
it really didn't
threads took a nosedive in quality when the leaks surfaced and the delay was announced, then it started getting better again after console launch, now it's only a bit worse
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>no Ice Cap Zone
Lava Reef almost made up for it.

Almost.
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>>388769674
Why not original stages?
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>>388767190
as soon as the bridge gets destroyed (beginning of the boss battle) jump in and fuck him over, you will only need to do few more hits
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>>388769408
The game was delayed two weeks for PC and then launched with an unpopular DRM component. It's unfortunate but not really surprising that this board would go apeshit. You should be blaming Sega first since this whole mess was entirely avoidable on their part.
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>>388769408
don't blame us, it's sega who shafted us with a delay immediately before release, lied about the reasons for the delay, and then put intrusive DRM into the game
the "always online" thing is a legitimate bug because they had some intern apply the denuvo after the game was finished without any input from the dev team

that being said, shitty DRM or not it's still a great game and at this point i'd rather talk about how fun it is than the DRM
tfw having to sit out on almost all mania discussion for two weeks because of sega's bullshit
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>>388759668
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i dont like some of the design choices
they dont look like they come from the "sonic world"
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>>388767507
You can do that as well, and it's really easy.
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>>388759668
>stand up dash from sonic CD
>instant shield from sonic 3
>jump dash from sonic mania
why do I have to choose? fuck
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Where's the crack?
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>>388763957
Sega Master System Health and Safety Guide.
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>>388770770
super peel-out is the only correct choice
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>3 S3&K levels
>Only 1 S1 level
Why couldn't they just replace Lava Reef with something like Starlight Zone?
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>>388770461
Underrated.
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>>388770981
There's really little point in going with Starlight when Stardust Speedway was an option.

That's Sonic 1 in a nutshell for this game. "Why bother".
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>>388767669
Depends, do you like mine? To the tune of Sonic 2 Boss theme

Eggman/Robotnik:
Meddlesome Hedgehog,
Looks like you have re-turned.
I promise you that
I won't lose a-gain!
Sonic:
I doubt it, egghead,
I'm not alone this time.
I now have a friend,
And his name is Tails!
Miles "Tails" Prower:
Doctor ro-bot-nik,
I don't know who you are.
But sonic tells me
that you are not good!
Eggman/Robotnik Sonic, and Tails:
There's only one way
to see which is better!
Nature or ma-chine
It is time to fight!
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>>388771405
Spring Yard was bretty cool
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>>388770770
>stand up dash
>jump dash
Why did you say it like that and why does it trigger me
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>Titanic Monarch is too big and takes forev-
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>>388771502
because you know the specific terms and english is probably your first language
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>>388765971
Press Garden is just too gorgeous. It's truly the definition of unique and is fresh.


and while I love Stardust speedways Act one aesthetic and music (giving off some smooth, porno music vibes, I dig it) I'm giving my remixed vote to Hydrocity. The fact that it only got minor tweaks as being one of the best water levels in a sonic game and kept the same good music that's stuck in my head since I was a kid more than any other zone. (also boat riding and Jesus running on water is tight as fuck)
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>>388761630
wat, where?
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So can you play Sonic Mania PC offline yet?
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>>388769810
Ice cap was going to be in the game but was cut due to the Jetzons lawsuit
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>>388771802
Apparently that got fixed. Think you just need to do the initial activation and then you can play offline.
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Where the fuck is the crack?
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>>388770929
>Super Peel Out
>Aka just smash your face into everything and die

I'll never get why they thought it was a good idea. It's a cool animation and it's fun to rev up but you usually just slam into shit and take damage- and if you go into spin form then why not just spindash in the first place?
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The one-room portion of the Metal Sonic boss fight is the most poorly designed boss I've encountered in ages.
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>>388771658
When you beat Studiopolis act 2 boss, it has the buzzing noise coming from the tv in the back, along with the date of the livestream
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>>388771892
oh please
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>>388771632
>I used the goal glitch to get a short time

Ebin
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>>388771989
>and if you go into spin form then why not just spindash in the first place?
super peel-out is faster and doesn't require you to mash
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>>388772070
Except you can do Act 1 entirely fine glitchless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNnMBZrVoUM
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>>388772174
Isn't that Act 2 Highlighted though?

If not then my bad.
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>>388771892
I hate musicians so god damn fucking much.
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Post favorite tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVPmE5f_GiE
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>>388772252
No, I haven't done Act 2 yet. I admit the highlighted option being black and not pink is dumb though
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>have to play blue sphere in order to unlock the thing I wanted to use to avoid blue spheres
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>>388772037
Oh fuck I didn't notice that.
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>>388771989
Not only us the peel out faster but since you don't curl up you don't lose as much speed on level and steeper surfaces.
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>>388772296
Why are you believing him?
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B E S T
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tw2R3EP6pQ
B E S T
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Pirate version when?
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>>388772491
Because Sonic 3&K Taxman remake isn't a thing yet and you god damn fucking know music is the reason.
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>>388767190
Just fought this guy, fell the same way

Its not even difficult to dodge the attacks it's simply the physics on oil would stop working and I would instantly die
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>>388772512

The guitar ruins it.
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Post your Mania 2 zone wishlist.
>5 new zones
Sonic 1:
>Marble
>Starlight
Sonic 2:
>Casinopolis or Aquatic Ruin
>Mystic Cave
Sonic 3:
>Angel Island
>Ice Cap
S&K:
>Sky Sanctuary
>Death Egg
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>>388772658
No shit there's iffy copyright crap with some of 3&K tracks. That's common knowledge.

Nobody has said anything about Ice Cap being intended for the game. If anything I would think the devs were well aware of what couldn't go in Mania from the jump and it Ice Cap was simply never on the table.
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What the fuck is the original version of this copypasta?

>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to enjoy Knuckles Chaotix. The genius of the gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of rubberband physics most of the nuance in the Combi Ring system will go over a typical player's head. There's also Metal Sonic's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Isaac Asimov's literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of his and other boss fights, to realise that they're not just a complete waste of time- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence, people who dislike Knuckles Chaotix truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in your partner's existential catchphrase "HOLD!" which itself is a cryptic reference to Sega's crowning achievement, the Sega CD. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Sega's genius gameplay revolutions unfold themselves on their computer monitors. What fools.. how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a ********** tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
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>>388772972
I want heavily revamped versions of Marina Madness and Botanic Base from Chaotix. Also a 2D version of Rusty Ruin from 3D Blast
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>Get the blue spheres
>Doesn't say don't get the red ones
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>>388772972
>tfw it won't have a pc version
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>>388772930
Shit taste
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>>388767190
I got crushed several times, under the platforms when they fall in the black oil thingy
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>>388772930
baffling opinion
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>>388773090
What iffy copyright shit?
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>>388772930
Ehm, no it doesn't?
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>>388773367
kek, i got crushed by nothing multiple times, just jumping into the oil
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>>388771492
It just proto Casino Night except with mountains as the background.
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>>388767190
Several boss battles in this game are exceedingly poorly designed.
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>>388762906
Malware
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>>388772930
If you don't like it then sample the original lead and put it in
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>>388773446
(You)
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>>388773293
It's sad, but I can see them avoiding PC even if the current problems are entirely their fault. The majority of the people bitching wouldn't have given a fuck if sega hadn't fed into all the denuvo conspiracy bait by not acknowledging it was in the game and then making it so it can't launch unless you're online.
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>>388773446
So wait... you give Generations a pass but shit on Sonic Mania? I don't understand your logic.
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>>388773610
come on dude it's bait
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>>388773429
Michael Jackson's team owns the rights to Carnival Night, Ice Cap, and Launch Base music, along with the Sonic 3 credits music, miniboss music, and the Sonic 3 version of Knuckles' theme.
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>>388773610
That's the point I was making. They are both rehashes but Generations was at least was exciting. Mania felt like a college kid copying and pasting someone else's paper, making a few changes and bragging about how well they wrote the paper.
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>>388773784
You just posted it a few minutes ago.
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>>388773830
what does ice cap have to do with mj?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2OWC5Hosv8
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>>388762906
>always-online
>kills modding
>sometimes hampers perfomance
>possible maindrive damage
>still gets cracked anyways

>>388764293
>ssd drive killer but that's no longer an issue as far as i know
I heard it was bad for HDD's.
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>>388767190
Do people actually struggle with this boss or is it just a meme
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>>388772972
1: Scrap Brain maybe, I don't care much for 1 zones
2: Aquatic Ruin, Mystic Cave
3: Ice Cap, Launch Base
K: Mushroom Hill, Sky Sanctuary, Death Egg
CD: All of them provided they have a major level design overhaul like Metallic Madness except Wacky Workbench, fuck that zone
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>>388774003
i struggled with it, 3&K version was easy on the other hand
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This game is overhyped.

You're literally playing Sega for a slightly remixed version of their previous games (I swear the sphere levels are the EXACT same).

Sure, the level designs are a bit better and it has better graphics. But it's the same game, through and through. Nothing exciting.

Slapping a few new limited features, a graphics polish and a few levels doesn't change that. There are rom hacks that add more content to the base games than Mania does.

Say what you want but at least Sonic 06 was exciting, despite it being an unfinished technical mess.
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>>388773956
One of the members of that group worked with Michael Jackson at the time.
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>>388773956
The guy who added that song for Ice Cap's music was part of the band and also MJ's team and one of the main people who was working with him on the game's music.
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>>388774003
Like others said on some previous posts, being crushed might be the most frequent cause of death on this one, not the damage of his lasers nor his tentacles' projectiles
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>>388763353
>most people are just buttmad that Denovo actually does its fucking job
>It'll eventually get cracked but with denovo it takes like 3 weeks+.

How does it feel to be this wrong and retarded?
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>>388774148
>Sonic 06 would be good if it werent shit
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>>388773175
You're just dumb then
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>>388774148
>I swear the sphere levels are the EXACT same
There are 36 sphere levels. 14 of them are reused from S3&K.
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>>388759668
Good visuals and soundtrack but shit gameplay and level design.
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>>388774397
Did it use the ones from the S3&K lock on, when you put in a game that didn't work?
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>>388774430
(You)
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>>388765478
Bosses are great but I have some minor gripes like lava reef 2
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What happened to PC version?
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>mfw Studiopolis Act 2 boss and it won't stop fucking thunderstorming
Just do the sun already, chicken fuck.
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>the only time Eggman gets away from you on foot is after Metallic Madness 2
>he outruns you because you're too small
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Was there any sonic boss with better presentation than the Egg Dragoon? If it weren't for the fact he was using a prototype he may have been able to do Sonic in.
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Did you get all those medals yet?
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>>388773972
>I heard it was bad for HDD's.
writes don't affect hdd's lifespan and denuvo (whatever version is used for sonic mania) won't wear down ssd, check disk activity while launching game/loading levels barely any activity 99% time 0 r/w speed
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>>388774676
They added denuvo to it and didn't disclose it on the store page, and on top of that they fucked up when adding the denuvo and made it so you could only play the game while online.
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CRACK WHEN?
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>when you get all the emeralds by Chemical Plant
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>>388774739
h-hes faster than sonic.
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>>388774843
Egg Dragoon still looks great, sucks all his boss fights are mediocre.
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>>388775016
How is this possible?
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>>388771654
>I'm giving my remixed vote to Hydrocity. The fact that it only got minor tweaks
Act 1 is the reworked stage, people seem to forget this fact..
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>>388775091
2 Rings in GHZ Act 1 (3 as Knux)
3 Rings in GHZ Act 2
4 Rings in CPZ Act 1
3 Rings in CPZ 2

It's largely doable, I consistently get super by studiopolis now
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>>388765971
Stardust Speedway unironically made me cry while playing it. Just felt so fucking good to see my favourite Sonic stage get such brilliant treatment.
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>>388759668
new sanic player here how do i get more lives?
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>>388775081
Unleashed's fight is by far the best, even taking into consideration the fact that you're stuck in werehog for it.
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>>388775091
I know there's at least 5 special rings in Green Hill (one Knuckles "exclusive") and Chemical Plant has at least three.
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>>388774863
>only halfway through silver medals with like 6 perfects

I just want the fucking DA Garden god damn
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>>388775356
You only need those silver medals for DA Garden so you don't have to go for the rings, the gold medals are just for completion sake and don't unlock anything.
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>>388759668
more like Denuvo Mania :^)
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>>388772972
I will post this again:

Plot Twist: Mania 2 takes new/modern levels, and turns them INTO classic-style levels instead!

>Starlight Carnival (Sonic Colors)
>Ocean Hill (Sonic Heroes)
>Sky Troops (Shadow The Hedgehog)
>Rooftop Run (Sonic Unleashed)
>Sand Ocean (Sonic Adventure 2)
>Ice Cap (Sonic Adventure, but also pretty much Sonic 3 as well)
>Hot Crater (Sonic Advance 2)
>Dead Line Zone (Sonic Rush)

How's that? I think I've got all the archetypes covered and every level is from a different game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBbFOHYYaDU

I completely missed out on this. Why is this so much better than the main theme?
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>>388775302
get 100 rings (this 100 collectible thing giving a life is very common in most 2D platformers, mind you)
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>tfw finally got to play it
>had a few things spoiled like the mean bean boss and the zone list
>get to Hydrocity Act 2's boss
That was the coolest fucking shit.
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>>388760465
Now that's one that is really out there and I'm surprised I even recognize it.
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>>388765971
Hydrocity was my favourite in 3&k.
I am still confused by its treatment but act 2 was great regardless.
Lava reef is fucking great but knuckles has the better boss.
I guess the best remix is oil ocean, it had potential and they nailed it.
Favourite new zone is press garden.
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who /timeattack/ here
post your favorite act and best time
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>>388772972
None. They should make a game with completely original levels.
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>>388775605
Ocean hill is such an under rested sonic level. 3D song in general suffers greatly in the level design department but I've always enjoyed this On one. I think it's the orca.
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>>388775605
>no eggmanland
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>Enter Mechanical Madness
>Negro spiritual starts playing
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>>388774341
It's a flaw, anon. The game needs better explanation.
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>>388776757
nibba that's how games were back then, no tutorial bullshit we get today
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>>388775605
They might as well just do new stages since everything would have to be utterly redone anyways. You also avoid the baggage that way.
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>>388759668
HELP!
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>>388771471
Holy shit this is good mate :D
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>>388774912
5 minutes
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>improving Oil Ocean by mixing it with elements of Sandopolis act 2
How the FUCK did they pull it off?
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>>388772930
thank you anon, for actually being a man of taste.

throwing a guitar for the lead just because does not a good song make.
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>>388777496
No vertical wrapping sections and no rapidly rising sand/oil
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>>388777078
reinstall directx
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>>388777496
They took one of the least favorite zones of Sonic 2 that isn't Hilltop and smashed it with one of the least favorite 2D Sonic gimmicks from one of the worst stages. I hardly consider that an improvement.

It's just like how they threw two bosses together to make Oil Ocean's Mania boss, which has the glaring flaws of both bosses on display in one lousy package.
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>>388776468
Turbo pleb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVhquZZGbqw

>>388777496
>Take two great zones and mash them together
>End result is good
Yep
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>>388777834
Hilltop is my favorite, anon
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>>388773784
but you're paying for the enhanced ambience
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>>388777834
i dunno why people hate oil ocean so much, it's a great zone with cool music and one of the most unique level concepts in the series
the boss in mania is one of the best bosses in the game and i don't understand how people are being crushed by it unless they're trying to puss out and hide under the platforms
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>>388777496
>take the only gimmick that rewards speed of an insanely claustrophobic stage full of slow parts that are only there to waste your time and put it in an open area that you can (literally) blaze through with good reflexes
>it's great

Who would have expected?
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>mfw going into oil ocean with a flame shield
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The bosses are easily the worst thing about this game. Some of them are really inventive but there are some bullshit bosses with "HA, GOTCHA!" design.
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>>388778854
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>>388778854
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>>388778876
sonic games have always had kinda shitty bosses because you can only do so much with sonic's movement in an arena to make it fair
try freedom planet for a sonic-ish game with bosses that will kick your ass
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>>388778854
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>>388772930
u r mr gay
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Crack when
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>>388779350
>sonic games have always had kinda shitty bosses because you can only do so much with sonic's movement in an arena to make it fair
Sonic bosses were generally serviceable because the focus of the game was on platforming through levels, not fighting bosses. Of course there were shitty bosses like Silver Sonic in 2 and that rock dude in Lava Reef, but for the most part they were fine. Mania has shit like Stardust Speedway and Oil Ocean's bosses that are just not fun at all and drawn out for no reason.

>try freedom planet for a sonic-ish game with bosses that will kick your ass
No thanks, I don't play platformers for boss fights, otherwise I would have thought that Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams was good instead of the pile of trash that it was.
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>>388772972
1: Star Light
2: Mystic Cave, you fucks
3: Azure Lake
K: Sandopolis is actually the only thing in S&K that hasn't been remastered somehow unless you want to bring the Death Egg back for whatever reason
CD: Collision Chaos
Spinball: Lava Powerhouse or The Machine if they can dig up some old Genocide City concepts to use, since stuff from that zone was apparently used in The Machine
3D Blast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf7-ixllcgo

The rest is new shit.

Make it fucking happen.
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>>388760637
is there a trick to that motorcycle fight, seems like he just charges at random points
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>>388779748
I didn't find oil ocean drawn out and I beat it my first go, dunno why people have trouble with it...
metal sonic fight is it's own special section I wish the spike wall made you lose all your rings though as it''s far too easy
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>>388778854
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>>388777813
I did but it still gives me the error on booting up?
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>Mirage Saloon Act 1
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>>388780352
>Mirage Saloon Act 1 as Knuckles
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>>388779350
Sonic Advance 3 had good bosses.
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>>388778854
>burning the spiky log in ghz
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I like this shade of red
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>>388780490
YEEHAW
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>>388780872
>knuckles doesn't wear the hat in mania
fuck you sega
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So I never really figured it out, what dictates as "Cool" for the Cool Bonus at the end of an Act? All I can figure out is not dying but how does one get more points on it?
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>>388780805
That's pretty neat. What happens to Sonic?
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>>388781010
remember not to climb into an active washing machine for maximum cool points
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>>388781010
drop dashes seem to influence it a lot with sonic

idk about others
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>>388780872
>>388780961
IS THAT MY OVA HAT I SEE
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Where is the Torrent?
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>>388780490
>>388780872
>playing a level designed for Knuckles' abilities that isn't linear like Angel Island Act 2 or Lava Reef Act 2
More of this in Mania 2, please. Hell, give him his own zones that Sonic and Tails don't go to, while you're at it.
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Best Sonic game ever made
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>>388781010
I think it starts at 10000 points, then it goes down by 1000 each time you take damage from something.
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>>388765971
>really hard choice, chemical plant and oil ocean were fantastic
>Wasn't that much a fan of the new zones. I would honestly say studiopolis if the bottom path wasn't retarded sometimes.
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>>388765971
Oil Ocean. They took a boring zone, slapped on elements from the dreaded Sandopolis in it and managed to have it come out as one of the best classic Sonic stages I've ever had the pleasure to play.

Titanic Monarch. Very nice reuse of the magnetic spheres of the Sonic 3 bonus stage, and in general a very good final stage with some mild challenge to it, including the boss.
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>people talking about have all emeralds within 3 zones
>only have 5 and at mirage saloon

why am I blind, can't seem to find the damn rings
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>Ice Cap is the best Sonic ice lev-
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>>388765971
>Green hill
>Press garden
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What does the blue ring do?
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>>388781992
i love press garden to death but ice cap just flows better
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>>388773830
>>388774265
It was never explicitly confirmed that Jackson was the issue on all of the verboten songs.
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Post the best version of Stardust Speedway NOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTl3h39abxc
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I hate Ice Cap and never understood the hype for it.
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>>388782332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHLaaOSaOY8
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>>388782245
when you get it rings you only drop a few giant ones that contain most of your lost rings
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>>388782408
Seems rather useless
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>>388765971
Metallic Madness (never played CD so technically it's a new zone for me)
Studiopolis
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>>388781930
at least you still have a chance to get them all before the end, I finished the game with 4 and had to get the rest afterwards
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>>388782332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WtwJPEJCA0
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>>388782245
I think it raises the amount of rings you can get exponentially.

Either that or it makes the rings you drop bigger or something, I don't remember.
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>>388762619
There's those scrolling signs in Act 1 too.

>To be this good takes Ages
>To be this good takes Sega
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>>388782448
You can easily recover like 3 times the rings you would without the blue ring
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>>388782448
if you're going for medals and you just got hit it'd make getting at least 25 rings easier
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>>388782509
>getting hit
Why ruin your cool score?
>>388782489
Fuck off namefag
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>>388782332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DYZX74qgFQ

Best song in the US soundtrack.
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>>388782332
Fucking weebs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn7pK00Us3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRcR0v6I_w8
Apart from the opening and ending songs, Quartz Quadrant and Stardust Speedway Good Futures, the boss and power-up music, and maybe the rest of Quartz Quadrant and Palmtree Panic, the American soundtrack is infinitely superior to the Jap one.
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THE CRACK IS OUT BOYS, BASED BALDMAN DID IT AGAIN
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>>388761178
Sounds like Ghosting.
Better get yourself a mechanical keyboard m8.
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>>388775840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUzsToL1KIY
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>>388782448
>have a bit over 100 rings
>get hit
>collect the rings and get another extra life
yeah bro, useless
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>>388782596
torrent?
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>>388782694
>getting hit
>needing extra lives
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>>388782768
not an argument
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>>388782747
I have a private tracker baby
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postan tunes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTkoJMa7LvY
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>>388782893
Exactly, I'm glad you agree.
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>>388765971
Hydrocity, they took my favorite level and made it even better
Press Garden, woooooooow
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>>388782971
I love the metal sonic boss music in mania to death, but just imagine if a remix of this played.
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>>388782908
>CPY
Nice cryptovirus
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>>388783036
my only problem with hydrocity is that it 3's act one fight for some weird reason
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>No UFO mode to unlock in Extras with bonus difficult stages
>Just more Blue Sphere
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I posted this in another Mania thread a while back, but whatever. You guys find any other amusing glitches?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFal6SAz644
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>>388783508
Goddamn I fucking hate blue sphere. I tolerate it because I want unlocks and shit but does anybody actually find that garbage fun?
The UFO stages blow ass too but they're at least somewhat rewarding since you score a gem.
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>>388783553
for the press garden bot fight, tails got stuck behind the left log for a bit
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>>388782596
You made me look you double nigger. It is not on GGN.
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>Scour the stage meticulously to find the chaos emerald bonus stage
>botch it in 10 seconds flat
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>>388783508
>blue sphere has 32 base levels + randomly generated ones with new spheres
>catch the ufo only has 7 levels despite being objectively better
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>>388783553
not really a glitch but i managed to get stuck in here and had to kill myself
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>>388783508
I like blue sphere but having that for every signpost kinda kills the momentum, my autism takes over and I have to jump into every signpost I pass
wish there were more race track levels they were a lot of fun
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>>388783718
i do, i just hate that they are useless after you get all gold, unlike 3 where the bonus give rings and shields
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Any autistic Sonic x Denuvo diaper porn yet
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>>388775226
There's 4 in GHZ.

I'm Sonic.
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>>388783784
>jump for a ring box above the hole
>miss completely
>COURSE OUT
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>>388784001
I played the shit out of them as a kid when I was even worse at video games. I hated them then too. I was not happy to see them in Mania but fuck it, the game's too good to not play.
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>>388783718
I've always loved Blue Sphere.

But after getting all gold medals I think I've had my fill for a long time
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>>388779876
Heavy rider is a She
And before you ask, Source: THE FUCKING MANUAL
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>>388783843
I thought the same but you can get out of that, just get low enough & go left to go under the little bar holding the platform up while repeatedly jumping & you're good.
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>Titanic Monarch Act 1 boss as Knuckles
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>>388784001
They do have one minor enduring use: canceling out your super form on entry
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>>388759668
Dare I say it? GOTY?
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>>388784337
thicc
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>>388759668
I want a new 2D Sonic game with Advance 2's speed burst mechanic and mid-air tricks, then I'll be happy.
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>>388783553
The first time I did Titanic Monarch Act 2 I got stuck in the bottom of one of those pits that has the pink fog that teleports you to other places. I have no idea why this pit didn't teleport me at all but I had no way of jumping out of it. Luckily I was Sonic + Tails so I was able to use Tails to get out of the pit but if I was playing as just Sonic I would have been fucked.
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>>388784479
It's possible, just difficult
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>>388783792
I wish they put a secret 8th special stage like the iOS ports.
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>>388784479
>Titanic Monarch Zone

The only thing I dislike in this entire game.
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>>388784479
I never beat this boss the regular way, seeing it just triggers S3&K PTSD everytime so I activate super
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What is the barrel of Sonic Mania?
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>>388784839
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>>388759668
i thought like week ago they announced that mania was getting workshop mod support but i cant find a single fucking thing saying that. was i fucking hallucinating or what?
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>>388784479
>Titanic Monarach Act 1 boss as Super Knuckles
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>>388785012
I was too stupid to realize that this is actually easy for about six lives.
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>>388780490
Dangerous Zombie haha
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>>388772972
All zones are new. No old zones.

I'm sick of Green Hill Zone.
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>>388785050
People assumed that because the EULA mentioned Workshop but it's the same EULA Sega uses for every game they publish
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>>388773830
Why can't Sega just pay the fucking royalties?
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>>388785252

It's more than just the NJ estate, there's also Brad Buxer.
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>Titanic Monarch
Best zone in the game. It flows so damn well.
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Is there a good download for this game's OST yet?
I went to check the old Vidya OST doc that got frequently updated for the first time in aeons and it's just fucking gone.
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>>388784479
Am I just some sort of Knuckles god or something?
I see everyone talking about how much harder Knuckles is in this game but I had a WAY easier time playing as him.
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>>388785489

MJ*
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>>388785649
his jump makes two bosses harder and that's about it

everything else is pure benefits
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>Beat the final boss in Knuckles & Knuckles mode
>Screen transitions as if it's going to let me go to Egg Reverie
>Just stays black
>Gotta restart the game even though this is no save mode
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I feel stupid for missing this one
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>>388785737
this

Also helps that by the time I started playing him I was able to get the emeralds quickly, so the bosses weren't an issue.
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>>388785513
I used this one.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B9Z2T3Umj6qhNl9ZWmgtWXd4bzA&export=download
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Stardust Speedway is SO sexy. Haven't seen a lick of info on the game before today since it got announced.
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>tfw no drop dash made the classics unplayable for me now

t-thanks taxman
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>>388786025
It really is. It's so quick though because the Metal Sonic fight takes up half of it.
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How many medals do you need to unlock puyo puyo mode?
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>>388786037
It is kind of crazy how nobody seemed to have thought of the idea before Mania.
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>>388786037
Someone's gonna make a hack for 3&K that puts it in. I bet you.
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>>388780872
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES
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>yfw HUEHUEHUE in Metal Sonic's fight
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>>388784181
let me guess, 4th emerald's UFO stage?
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You think Sonic will ever be a big name in gaming again? For a few years in the 90s he was bigger than Mario. Crazy to think about.

We need more games like Mania, a Sonic 5 by Taxman, Headcanon and Tee Lopes.
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Why is the fifth special stage so hard? Why is the seventh special stage so easy?
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>>388786487
For Sonic to truly break out it needs a big-budget critical darling 3D game.

which remains a fucking pipe dream
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>>388786363
6th
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>>388786487
It's what everyone's hoping for now Mania's a success.
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>>388765478
Best bosses of any sonic game in my opinion, which have always been the weakest part of the series barring final bosses which get hype as fuck. Honestly fucking love this game, so many cool moments
>get flame shield and catch the oil on fire
>sega cd level has you travel to the future
>the first bossfight
Made me laugh out loud with joy desu. I immediately wanted to play it again after beating it, this is just what i wanted
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>>388786306
>when he waves his finger
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>>388786573
They're all easy if you just prioritze the UFO.

I get almost half of the emeralds at mach 1 and never even reach mach 3 anymore
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>playing super Knuckles
>get to this stepping feet thing part in Lava Reef
>slip off and get stepped on by my own foot
I seriously feel like being super in this game is more of a hindrance than anything. It's so goddamn slippery that I can barely even do basic platforming
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>>388786487
no all the awful games hurt him, mania is the right start, we need a really good 3d game which i doubt will happen
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>>388786887
I mostly use super to cheese bosses
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>>388786887
>actually platforming in super mode
Good ol metropolis zone.
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>>388786887
Gitting gud with Super in Sonic 2 ensures you will never have super form handling issues ever again
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>>388786805
The gacha boss in MMZ2 made me squeal. Those mini bosses for mini Sonic though.
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Finally a sonic game that goes back to the old art design. I'm glad they didn't go with the autistic "attitude" magnet that the current design is.
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>>388787039
I just wanted to crush the Rexxons cause it feels cool
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>>388786887
why didn't you just walk on the lava though

you're super
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>>388787367
They have Forces for that side of the fanbase. Everyone wins.
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Why is the drop dash so fucking useless?
>can't use it if you jump, bump off an enemy, then land
>can't use it if you have almost any forward momentum at all when you land
>can't use it if you launch into the air by running up a wall and then landing on the ground above
It only works consistently if you jump from standing completely still, don't move a fucking inch while in the air, and then land exactly where you started. Why wouldn't I just use a normal spin dash? And even if it didn't have all these problems it shouldn't require a second button press to function, I should just be able to keep the button held from my jump off the ground and drop dash when I land. But that would be a really minor complaint if the mechanic actually fucking worked.
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>>388787427
>>388787421
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>>388786306
>first time fighting Metal
>for some reason the music doesn't start playing

Almost made me think there was going to be a 4th phase or something.
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>>388760916

Consoles and the discs required to play games on them are literally just a form of DRM. What's the difference?
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>>388787512
it exists so that platforming doesn't instantly kill your momentum without requiring that you're a human TAS that can take the platforms without slowing down at all

if you''re having issues having it come out, are you doing jump -> release -> hold till you land?
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>>388787626
I didn't get a music not playing bug the whole time I played the PC version. Must've been one of the bugs that was fixed.
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>>388787512
what the fuck are you talking about nigga

you can literally do the first two of your complaints
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Is there a crack yet?

I'm not giving a cent to the fucking denuvo shills.
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So I'm at lava reef with 5 emeralds, what are my odds of getting the last two after getting course out twice in a row on the 6th stage
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>>388788506
Just use the special speed tech when you enter the special stage, catching the emeralds becomes a fucking piece of cake
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>>388788506
You have a chance but you'll be pushing it, you're really running out of chances here.
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>>388788383
I got that bug while playing the PC version. It never happened again tho.
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>>388783718
The blue sphere stages are just a little too long for my taste
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the only thing that should take more than 2 tries in this game are lasts chaos emeralds. if you found this game difficult in any way you are the biggest pleb.
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>no reward for getting gold medals on all blue sphere stages
why
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>>388786887
That's nothing
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>>388788506
If you can manage to nail the sixth stage, beating the last one should be cake. I got the seventh emerald on my first attempt.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV7czRjQzXE

>0:16
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>>388788953
Getting all golds is a diagnostic test for autism.
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>>388787039
>game literally forces you to go super if you have 50+ rings because there's no separate super button
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>>388788935
How could anyone find the final special stage hard? It's the easiest of the bunch. You can catch the UFO at mach 2.

>>388788953
A trophy/achievement :)
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>>388786306
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>>388788652
>special speed tech

you talking about just focus on orbs or what?
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>>388789036
Sonic Mania PC and Sonic 3 Complete say hi
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>>388789040
no the last one is surprisingly easy, but the last two before took me a few tries.
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>>388789036
But the super transformation is not the same button as jumping.
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fuck me the special stages get fucking tough after the third emerald, still going for fifth.
Meanwhile, I golded all blue sphere levels easily
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>>388785513
when the vinyl ships all the original track will get clean releases, unsure about the remix tracks though. holy fuck am I glad I pre ordered this this shit is beautiful
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>>388789287
What the fuck how did you do that? Which button is glide without turning super?
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>>388784713
>tfw knowing Taxman he would've added a secret 8th special stage that's fun as fuck like in the iOS/Android Sonic 1, 2 and CD
>nothing
>not even a 3d run til you fuck off a cliff and die minigame that the devs did just for laughs
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>>388789661
Nice virus
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>>388789206
Jump in one direction, and hold the opposite while you're in the air, you will gain extra speed, do this while also bumping on the sides of the stage for even more speed, catching the emeralds becomes a cake walk.

https://youtu.be/nKfDxm-vkec?t=3m3s

This is for reference
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>>388782596
Fuck off Gohan you're not fooling me this time
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>2min and 4 seconds
>all these screws-ups in the run

How short will that level be when fully optimized glitchless? I feel like you could actually get 1'40 and less.
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>>388789287
It is on consoles. They only changed it for the PC release and have yet to update it on any other platform.
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>>388789581
Protip: always take the fastest route, never take the slower ones just to get more spheres or rings because the ufo will get a significant lead on you while you do that.
>>388789641
On the PC version you have to press Y on the controller to transform instead of the jump button, the hud element on the top right shows up when you get 50+ rings and lights up when you are in the air and can transform.
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>>388789661
>size: 341 MB
at least you tried
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I don't like Sonic. I have never liked Sonic. I bought this game and didn't like it so I got a refund.
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>>388789661
>compressed larkin love porn
why would you do this to me at least give me the uncompressed version you fuck
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>>388788979
Not him but I just had the opposite issue, I went in there right away as Super Knuckles so the mini-boss never triggered and am trapped in there now due to Knuckles low jump & his inability to climb crates.
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>>388790020
Woah!
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>>388790020
Why did you buy it?
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>>388789641
Thanks for beta testing
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Is the sand worm a Dune reference?
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>>388786037
>originally don't care much for the idea, can't even get it to work
>now use it for quick hits on Metal Sonic, climbing hills, dodging and counterattacking certain enemies
Shit's amazing.
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>>388789857
Seeing someone get such short times on Titanic Monarch is fucking cool. It's such a good level.
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>>388785878
I'm so sorry. You're missing out.
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>>388790872
Drop Dash is great for keeping up speed during the Metal Sonic tower climb.
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>>388791046
Yep, and I used it for hitting him when I'd accidentally pass him during the final part. I believe I also used it for the Flying Battery boss, which was the only boss in the game so far (I finished Mirage Saloon last I played) to kill me at all. Love it.
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>>388789661
Anyone checked this already?
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>>388790043
I downloaded it because I thought that was what it really was and now I'm disappointed.
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so what's this i hear about taxman and co. getting in trouble with sega over the pc release? i really really hope it isn't true cause I NEEED Mania 2
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>>388791671
shitposting
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>>388791671
They aren't in trouble. It's just controversy over Sega adding Denuvo and the devs + aaron webber being against it.
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>>388791671
Sega of Europe put extra DRM shit into the PC release. Everyone was mad, Taxman and Stealth included. Though everyone for some reason witchhunted the two because they thought they did it.
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>>388786487
Mania is a good start but forces is going to bring him right back down to zero again
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>>388765971
Metallic Madness. Stardust is really close, I love that the two CD stages surprised me.

I'm tempted to say Mirage Saloon because its amazing after all these years Dust Hill Zone finally got realized. And I think I'm one of the only people that loves Sonic's act 1.
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>>388791671
Taxman tweeted that the decision wasn't up to them and to use the official feedback form
Stealth left a message on the steam news post saying they should re-word the post as it implied that the mania team had something to do with the implementation of DRM which isn't true
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>>388791867
how many people are just going to make sonichu, be honest
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>>388765971
I'm biased because Hydrocity was my favorite zone in all of classic Sonic, so that.
My favorite new zone was also Titanic Monarch after repeat playthroughs. Followed by Studiopolis, Press Garden then Mirage Saloon. Though that doesn't mean I didn't like Mirage Saloon.
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>>388791996
And Coldsteel. Don't forget Coldsteel.
Very creative, guys.
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>>388791803
Why the fuck does Sega of Europe have a say over JP and US PC releases?
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>>388792378
SoE were the branch that had the rights over the PC release.
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>>388792461
That don't make no fuckin' sense.
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>>388792519
Sega's PC division is just SoE. SoJ & SoA handle consoles. So any steam ports you want from Sega should be suggested to SoE.
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>>388792653
Oh, no, I understand.
I'm just saying that's silly.
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>>388792791
And a lot of people are rightfully calling them silly.
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>>388765990
Speaking of glitches here, I went through the portal with Super Knuckles only to be reverted to a weird state where the super theme was still playing, I was vulnerable, and couldn't transform back despite having over 200 rings. I got hit and lost all my rings. I was mad as fuck

until I realized I still had debug on and proceeded to drop a shitton of super monitors
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>opening teased angel island zone
>get fucking ghz instead
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>>388791867
Which is when they press the "Emergency Physical Mania" button
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>>388792791
Japan's PC scene is very limited. Mostly VNs and Doujin games. Only recently have they seen there be an audience for console games on pc. SoA handles a few things like marketing and QA, but not much dev work because of the STI scandal. SoE is like SoA, just a branch, but are also completely in charge of the PC division. They have to ask for permission though on all ports, and make dumb decisions sometimes to appease SoJ.

Look up the dev history of House of the Dead Overkill PC version. Quite fascinating.
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>>388793284
It's Green Hill, but with elements from every other "first" zone. Emerald Hill, Angel Island, Palmtree Panic.
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>>388783784
the special stages are surprisingly easy this time, i only had to do some of them a couple of times(4th one was the biggest pain in the ass) and on my second playthrough i got them all before stardust speedway
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>>388793690
I found them tricky at first and was stuck on the 4th/5th ones for a while, but after you get these special stages, you really GET them. Something like endless Blue Sphere but for Catch The UFO would be amazing.
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>>388789610
I also got the limited edition vinyl for the OST. I can't wait for it to come
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>>388786194
It is kind of crazy how he DID come up with it
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>this could've been the true final boss
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>>388786306
metal sonic is the best boss fight in the game hands down
at least the most exciting one
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>>388793852
>but after you get these special stages, you really GET them

Not him, but this is the perfect description for the eventual learning process for these things.
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>>388793667
but a remixed angel island theme would've been nice, hell I'd take palmtree panic theme over ghz
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>>388793949
Mania is a fucking fantastic game, but I do have to say that the true final boss was incredibly lacking and flaccid. Plus the "true" ending was shit even compared to the slightly shorter "bad" ending.
Music was good though, like usual.
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>when you realize you can spindash the Flying Battery 2 boss into the spikes

now that section with spikes on both ends makes sense
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>>388794240
Wouldn't be shocked if Iizuka forced them to change the final boss last-minute to be a prequel to forces.
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>>388794240
The true final boss would have been better if both opponents were acting players on the field at the same time.
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>>388794502
Well like, half the level transitions are done through the Phantom Ruby having a spaz. The game starts off with it having a spaz. More then the final boss was changed for the Forces' tie in.
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>>388793403
>STI scandal
Explain further.
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>>388793852
for any anons struggling out there: prioritize the UFO and rings, you will get enough balls just by chasing it

also sonic goes exactly in the direction he is facing when landing so use jumps in tight corners
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>>388794502
Nah, they could have shoehorned that in with no effort. It just seems like they ran out of time to do something bigger with the endgame.
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>>388794736
Sega Technical Institute. Guys that made Sonic 2 and 3. Basically an America/Japan mix that hated each other and never really exchanged ideas.
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>>388794470
i think i spend like 10 lives and timed out once because i didn't realize i can use the poles to push him so i tried to jump into him instead
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crack when
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Did they fix Sonic & Tails being able to get into Knuckles' portion of GHZ?
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PC master race amirite!
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>>388794736
Sega Technical Institute and it's constant bickering back and forth with SoJ that lead to things like the Genesis/CD/32X/Saturn all on the market at once, the Sonic X-treme Development Hell, and the accusations of STI "stealing code" from SoJ. Really dumb petty shit that made it so most development for Sega games being done in Japan and the pettiness of no localization for certain games like Shining Force III's other chapters or Sakura Wars.
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>>388794967
I hope not
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>>388765369
super tails god
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WHAT IS THE BEST BOSS FIGHT
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>>388794967
Hope not, that's where I spent most of my Emerald grinding.
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>>388795113
Studiopolis Act 2. It's fucking cute.
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>>388795113
The octopus
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>>388795113
Spider mech on FB or Gacha machine in MM.
>>388795152
Also good. Felt like a 3K boss.
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>>388795152
Metallic Madness Act 2 has that beat by a long shot.
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>>388778723
even if you hide underneath the platforms, it's pretty easy to realize when to get away anyway
it's a fair difficulty spike than the rest simply because rings disappear the instant they go under the oil, so you'll try to hit the thing, get shot by the turrets that you haven't had time to destroy yet, and then die some other way later

>>388779748
Oil Ocean's boss is an actual boss. It's pretty solid other than the sheer amount of waiting. If every part was destroyable (eg, the laser turret and the spike), that'd go a long way to helping it by at least giving the player a reason to not just hide
there's a few other issues I'm too lazy to note that I'm missing

Stardust Speedway's... really, it should have been designed a bit differently. The initial running bit was cool, but the absolute end part is literally "you can't actually die here since all your rings pile up on the wall" (and the wall is fucking lame anyway)
the bit where you need to spindash the S2GG Silver Sonics was kind of poorly thought out, they should have just been hordes he sent out while you had to hit him directly

I think Mania has had better boss ideas than the rest of the series in general, but the execution needed definite work.

>>388779350
man, Freedom Planet is a great game for the bosses, but the stage design kind of sucks a bit
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>>388795113
Spider for most satisfying, Hydrocity 2 for most climactic.
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>>388795113
press garden act 2
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>>388795219
I mostly like it for the cute chicken animations

>>388795271
Just as cute. I loved how it dispensed mini toy versions of old bosses, though wish it was more then just Emerald Hill's and Marble's.
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>>388795152
can you damage him while he does the cloud attack?
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>>388795271
Forgot about this one. Awesome concept.
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>>388795443
You can damage him at all times when you play as Sonic. He flies down low enough that you can keep hitting him. Playing as Knuckles you have to wait for the hot day forecast to actually hit him.
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>>388795351
those robo amys were neat
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>Tons of references, including many non-Sonic games
>TWO versions of robotic sonic in the game
>No Mecha Sonic

JUST
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>>388795565
I liked their little psychotic smiles before they blew up.
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>>388795572
Mecha Sonic's dead, anon.
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>>388783553
I got Knux stuck in a wall in Flying Battery by flying into it.
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>>388795541
You can also damage him when he does the wind forecast if you jump from the poles and time it right
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>>388783553
I have this picture off of my Twitter that someone blocked me out of.
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>>388794881
>STI
>Sonic 3
No they fucking didn't stop parrotting this meme
Sonic Team worked exclusively with the Japanese Branch of STI not with the americans because of language barriers/different work culture issues they had when making Sonic 2
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>>388795541
His floating pattern, complete with the upward peaks where you can't reach him, is straight out of Spring Yard. I'm kind of disappointed I haven't run across anybody that has acknowledged this.
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>>388794736
No such thing
They're confusing Sega of America with STI(STI was just a division)

It was basically back in the day SOA was successful as fuck and SOJ got butthurt
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>>388782595
the US soundtrack is decidedly unmemorable and bland sounding as a whole despite being fairly well made (hell, 90% of my issue is the mixing, it completely fucking lacks any punch to it, but a lot of the melodies are also understated by virtue of the instrument choice), while the JP one is full of funky dance-style tunes that keep the energy up and are full of punch
it's also decidedly less consistent than the JP one melodically between time zones, ignoring the unchanged past tracks

the one song (other than Sonic Boom, naturally) that's totally better on the US soundtrack is the Wacky Workbench Present theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLqNUvVqpmI
bad future has some really damn cool bits too, but again, that fucking mixing hurts it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcDrM3qUDGY
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>>388778854
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chemical plant boss is fun and surprising the first time but damn it's such a pace killer not mention it's piss easy, you pretty much wait for eggman to kill himself
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>>388787893
that console DRM doesn't cripple or fuck ups your system
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>>388775226

I suck ass at the special stage, tell me your secrets
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>>388785951
Thank you Anon. If you have the OST for 1, CD, 2, or 3&K, p-p-p-p-post em
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>>388782678

this time would be even better if you learned to jump near the end of the loop de loops for extra speed
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>>388793690
4 and 5 were pretty rough for me. 6 only took a few tries.
it's kind of stupid just how easy the 7th was, it's actually easier than the first one
buddy of mine even managed to do it while the screen was messed up with the devMenu video glitch (open the dev menu while any FMV is playing, screen colors fuck up due to some scaling settings not being reapplied properly and it looks trippy)

>>388793949
>tfw it took me a while to realize that act 2 takes place inside of it
>tfw same thing realizing that the final boss takes place in the cockpit for it
like, this was when I'd just seen a stream and hadn't played this bit yet myself, but still
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>>388796084
Yeah it's basically the same.
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>>388775605
>No City Escape
0/10
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>>388796275
Maybe if you play it enough times you'll actually become a Puyo master
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>>388795541
wait, really?
Damn, I ended up just flying Tails' ass into him, I didn't realize he dipped low enough to hit as Sonic alone outside of the sun forecast.
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>>388786196

this picture made me fucking lose my shit
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>>388786845

should I focus on rings and not bother with the blue orbs?
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>>388796275
I wonder what the normies that don't know about mean bean game think about it
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>>388783843
R U A GHOST?
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>>388797207
>Not calling it Puyo Puyo
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>>388797186
Getting lots of rings first is more important. Also always stick to the UFO's path. If you take a detour it'll just get more farther away.
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>>388797186
You should get what requires the bare minimum deviation from the ufo's path
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>>388797347
not him but the game even calls it mean bean
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>>388797207
tetris
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>>388797536
I know that, that's one of my few problems with the game. Extremely petty I know.
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>>388797692
Well they wouldn't call it Puyo Puyo, even though Sonic Team is the main Puyo Puyo dev now.
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>>388797692
the reference is worth the lapse in faith my son

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