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This game looks like shit

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> great visuals
> great audio
> shit gameplay
> shit level design
> shit game feel
fucking millennials will eat this up though cause muh retro cartoons. A game like this has no business being an run n gun. The only people who like this game are reddit hipster fags that take style over substance and dont know a lick about game design.
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>>388752119
Oh you've played it to completion I look forward to your review
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I sorta admire the devs because everyone was shitting on it for only being a boss rush game initially and then the devs decided to turn it into a traditional sidescrolling platformer like everyone wanted

whether its actually any good remains to be seen but that's still pretty neat
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>shit gameplay
Wrong
>shit level design
It's nothing extraordinary but it isn't shit
>shit game feel
What does this even mean
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>>388753054
>like everyone wanted
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>>388752119
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>>388752119
I'm amazed you're so prescient as to completely figure out how the game feels and know every level will be shit. even though it doesn't come out for another month. This is what you've become, you need to get help.
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>>388753082
>shit game feel
Imagine playing a Nintendo game, Cuphead is the exact opposite
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>>388753082
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_feel
took to seconds to look up
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>>388752119
>great visuals
lol no. It looks like a shitty amerilard cartoon, if only they had a good art style then I might consider buying it on sale..
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>>388753526
So it's good?
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>>388752119
>> shit game feel
If you take this part out, you'll get a lot more bites
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>>388753812
0/10 bait
10/10 edgy
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>>388753054
the people that bitched about it initially wouldnt have bought the game. and they still wont
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>>388754220
How is what he said edgy?
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Chromatic dogshit ruined the visuals
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>>388752119
>fucking millennials

YOU ARE A MILLENNIAL.
FUCK. Most of 4chan are millennials. Fuck you all
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>millennials will eat this up though cause muh retro cartoons

Millennials hate old cartoons, retard. They would reject this game based on the art style alone.
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>>388754743
Popeye you can't just punch all your problems away
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>>388754468
That kind of joke is a bit, just a bit, silly and childish
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>>388754743
WOW I didn't know Popeyes smoked weed!
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>>388754743
What's wrong with his arms? Am I supposed to feel something watching this thing?
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>>388754743
Popeye is the hero Texas deserves
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>>388754743
damn I love me some old ass animation
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>If you like vintage cartoons, you're a millennial
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>>388754743
no millennials are filled with hipsters who like to dip their toes into the kitschy retro stylings of the days past. They do it ironically of course because it offers escapism from the cynicisms of today.
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>>388754743

millenials can't like old cartoons because of how non-progressive they were
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>>388753054
microsoft forced them to do it, they didn't want to, and it shows because all the levels that aren't just bosses look like total fucking garbage.
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>>388752119
is this game just a "here is some level and bossfight" the game?

Or is it like Mario, where you clear levels, have a "story" and sometimes a boss?
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I'm still excited for it, day 1 buy
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>>388755132
In this case, they're using the term "millennial" to refer to a person who believes or does things they don't like.
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>>388752119
>actually looked up if it was coming to switch

Fuck you OP...
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>>388754870
but a game being ''good'' is subjective.
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>>388755132
If you're not a millennial, you're a ~40 year old posting on /v/
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>>388755594
If you faggots are just gonna call everything subjective why even post here?
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>>388755526
Who the fuck cares about this thing Anon, c'mon.
Have you seen the Nindies Direct? There are a lot of amazing games coming to Switch, man this thing is the fucking Holy Grail of video games
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>>388754743

Pretty much since old cartoons are pretty much synonymous with everything the current year hates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT2LSB1Bz2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMZfCar-Ks8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy0Kg_kzdLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzH1iaKVsBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY
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>>388754743
>the way he looks both ways before reacting to the rest of the pipes

I fucking love this in literally every cartoon it's in.
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>>388753054
>>388753149
>>388754362
>>388755250

The funny thing is, all they have to do is add a boss rush mode, and you'll have the original version you wanted.
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>>388755770
Almost took the bait.
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>>388756098
It's a fact fucking cunt
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>>388754743
>this is what Americans consider good animation
It's a good thing anime is becoming mainstream.
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>>388755784
How's the Donald Duck one something people nowadays hate?
Nearly everyone hates Nazis and that whole thing was pretty much against Hitler and nazi germany in general.

The rest I agree, people would instantly get triggered by any of those.
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to state opinions,start discussions and to trigger autistic fuckers like you.
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>>388756881

yeah one minute of animation should consist of no more than 10 frames
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>>388756881
>it's a good thing anime's becoming mainstream
animu becoming mainstream will never be a good thing.
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>>388756881
(You)
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>>388752119
Kill yourself for the love of god
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>>388756881
no, this is what animators consider good animation.
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>>388754743
How come there isn't a new Popeye game? This cartoons screams for a nice beat 'em up at least, an adventure / action game could be nice too
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>>388753526
>nint0ddler
fuck outta here
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>>388757525
>>388757814
Art style is important in animation, something the West unfortunately doesn't understand.
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>Conan and Kate Upton playing it
This shit is guaranteed to be a massive success now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF3dT9bDu_4
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>>38875688
>The most popular animated shows in Japan are Stephen Jewniverse and Spongebob.

How will weeb's ever recover?
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>>388752119
>Switch

I fucking wish I could play it portable. Still day one on Steam though.
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>>388754743
We finally have a game that has the best art style of all. Feels good.
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>>388757989

The company that owns the Popeye copyright in the U.S. doesn't seem willing to do much with the character at all, considering we haven't had any new Popeye cartoons or movies lately, let alone games. Popeye is in the public domain in Europe, so anyone in Europe could make a Popeye game without buying the rights, but they wouldn't be able to sell it in the United States where Popeye is still under copyright.
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>>388758904
I remember going to Brussels and seeing Popeye, Smurfs, Tintin and many other characters from back then all over the city. It felt fantastic to witness this kind of art everywhere. A shame that copyrights, of all things, is keeping all those great characters hostage for so many years from reaching new audiences and generations.
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Moar liek Pothead and Nugman
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>>388758895
Too bad it will be the only one. Retro cartoons (more specifically any cartoon released before the 2000s) are seen as "problematic" by many a millennial and they will be hard at work to protest any future releases from the people behind Cuphead. It's dead Jim.
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>>388753739
>looks like the greatest era of animation ever
>shitty
go back to /a/ you stupid weeb
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>>388756881
>I have no respect or interest in animation as an art form if I can't get off to it
Literally kill yourself
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>>388754743
Reminder that Popeye is a beta that needs "muh magic spinach" to beat Bluto and that Olive Oil loves that Bluto dick and fucks him every night
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>>388756881
>3 frames of animation
>good
>anime
>ever becoming mainstream
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>>388755250
Their fault for making such a terrible fucking game.
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>>388758190
Classic western art-style shits on Uguuuu Kawaii bullshit and Disney is the only reason you have Anime
Kill yourself you faggot weeb
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>>388759282
>A shame that copyrights, of all things, is keeping all those great characters hostage for so many years from reaching new audiences and generations
It's not just copyright anon.

It's SJW (aka most of the planet's youth today) that hate retro cartoons for not being progressive enough. Expect to see any trace of them erased for good as leftism grows all across the world.
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>>388760251
The game isn't even out yet anon. Give it a chance
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>>388753526
It looks like something Nintendo would do. What's the problem? Did you forget Kirby's Dreamland 3 and Yoshi's Island?
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>>388760342
>>388760235
>>388759753
>>388759689
>>388758552
>>388757589
>>388757525
How can weebcucks ever recover?

Fucking based thread. Weebs got truth dunked on them and they're on suicide watch. We will never consider animeshit to be real animation plain and simple.
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>>388757018
Donald Duck cartoon is Pro-Hitler propaganda
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>>388755073
hhhehehe
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>>388760359
I'm glad we're not getting new cartoons from these
Look at the New Looney Tunes Show in Cartoon Network and what a trainwreck that was. Don't get me started on the many horrible nu-Tom and Jerry cartoons out there that trigger the fuck out of me.

These faggot millennials can't do these characters justice
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>>388760251
Shut the fuck up you aspie retard faggot
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>>388758190
eat shit
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>>388760342
Not true at all, keep believing the lies though
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>>388757018
Cause they made fun of nazis by making fun of da gays (Also the japs but you know muh privilage and all that)

>>388760663
No?
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>>388760607
The best part is that nobody fucking debates these posts, just autistic screeches. It's hilarious.

>>388761127
Kill yourself weeb, you already got BTFO a million times.
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>>388754968
Nobody here is really impressed by your edginess.
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Literally the only game I've been looking forward to all year desu.
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>>388761127
You only prefer anime to western animation because the latter doesn't mostly consist of visualised little girls
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>>388760663
>Portrays nazis as idiots
>Shows that people in germany are working like slaves
>There is nothing to eat besides one coffee bean and stale bread
>After he wakes up he's glad it was just a dream
>Literally ends with calling Hitler a disgrace
Are you retarded or just pretending to be?
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>>388761316
>visualised little girls
>implying the invisible children in your shitty cut and paste horseshit is good
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>>388753082
You know how moving around and fighting in FFXV feels like shit? That's because it has bad game feel.
Compare to something like Super Mario World or Metal Gear Revengeance.
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>>388755250
Really doesn't look any worse than Contra or Super C and those are great games
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>>388761447
I wrote "sexualized" but my fucking spellchecker changed it

And I like how you don't actually deny it
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>>388760973
Guess that explains why all modern cartoons are not only shit, but generally promote racemixing and cultural enrichment (see Steven Universe)
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>>388752119
Oh, the word of a /v/irgin that's never played the game. This surely is more valid than everyone that's played it at gamescom and e3. Thanks for saving me $20!
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>>388752119
The game looks (visually) fantastic. The game also looks (gameplay wise) like every single "me too" side-scrolling platformer that came out after Braid and Limbo made money. Disappointment upon release is going to be fun to see.
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>>388752119
REMINDER
The only people who hate this game are lackluster, jealous indie devs who literally can't handle that are unable to make a game like this.
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>>388761726
>Demo-presentation-level specifically designed to lure in retards lures in retards
no shit sherlock
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>>388761692
US Cartoons died in 2009 when Ed Edd n Eddy and Fosters ended

Ever since then Tumblr/Nu Calarts invaded Cartoon Network and ruined everything
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>>388761790
Not to mention the SJW youth of today who hate retro cartoons for being "racist" and "problematic".
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>>388761753
>The game also looks (gameplay wise) like every single "me too" side-scrolling platformer that came out after Braid and Limbo made money
No it fucking doesn't you retard. The gameplay is completely different.
Braid and Limbo are exploration games. Cuphead is a fucking Run 'n Gun game like Contra, Metal Slug etc.
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>>388758190
what does this even mean beyond 'I personally like the way anime looks more than western animation'
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>>388755250
they could have released it as originally intended, but instead they got oodles of money and had to make it a complete game. they weren't "forced"
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>>388762154
It's so fucking depressing. I pity children who grew up with that trash. Good thing I am among the 5-10% of people on this planet who still have taste. Fuck all nu-cartoons and fuck /co/mblr for shilling them.
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>>388761127
Yes it fucking is
Osamu Tezuka the God of Manga as he's called said that he was inspired by Walt Disney. In particular that's where the big expressive eyes came from.

Suck a dick you retarded weebshitter
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>>388761127
Just ignore the retards
>>388760342
>Disney is the only reason you have anime
False. In fact America actually stole """"" their"""""animation techniques from Japan.
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>>388761316
>because the latter doesn't mostly consist of visualised little girls
If you search well enough you can actually find those in some old Disney movies
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>>388752119
This looks like one of those games that might be worth buying after waiting for a price drop
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>>388762364
Tezuka definitely had an impact on anime and manga but he didn't invent it, anime has been around longer than cartoons which you would know if you knew anything about animation.
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>>388762257
Nice reading comprehension you fucking clown.
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>>388762360
I do too man, I do too
Nowadays they don't even show the classics on TV. They don't show classics like Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, Pink Panther etc. or even more contemporary classics like Duck Tales, Darkwing Duck, Count Duckula, Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers etc.
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>>388762521
Only $20, if it was any more then I'd be in the same boat as you
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>appeals to sjw boogeyman to justify opinion

Someday they won't be there to hold your hand
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>>388752119
Hey nintendo bro cry more it wont be on that bitch ass switch
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>>388762384
>False. In fact America actually stole """"" their"""""animation techniques from Japan.

Utter nonsense that could only be spouted by an historically illiterate weeb. During the early period of animation Japan was still attempting to emulate the west culturally as much as possible. Japanese animation from the 20s-40s were mostly poor imitations of the American style (example - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icVu-acHlpU)
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>>388762384
>America actually stole """"" their"""""animation techniques from Japan.
No they fucking din't
It was the other way around if anything
Even back then Japs were making shitty cartoons stealing techniques from Felix the Cat and Fleischer Studios

Anime as it exists now wouldn't have ever been possible without Tezuka and it would have never possible without Walt Disney.
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>>388762521
It's 20 bucks you fucking idiot
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>>388762731
its on pc and doesn't require any of nintendo's gimmicks
why would you need any tool besides your computer in this instance?
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>>388762978
>paying for a game at its full retail price
It's like you don't want to have money
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>>388762978
>buying an indie game that's shitty outside of boss fights for entry level AA prices
I don't know why you retards keep doing this.
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>>388762640
He practically did invent it
The anime and manga you know is what he's responsible for creating

the "anime" from early 1900s(which you've never even seen) compared to the anime you and everybody else knows are 2 completely different things give me a fucking break

Walt Disney is the reason the anime you and everybody else knows exists. Period.
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>>388762880
>vid
>anime will never be this good ever again
why even live
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>>388755132
I knew immediately she was a woman
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>>388762880
>>388762890
>Americans when presented with facts choose to believe lies
Go look it up and you'll see that America has been stealing Japanese ideas since before WW1.
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>>388762690
Let me show you the reason why people unironically enjoy nu-cartoons and why they shill them here.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_mentality
That's it. It's just a bunch of sheep blindly following popular opinion, like a bunch of lemmings walking towards a cliff.

People who consume modern cartoons have no autonomy.

>They don't show classics like Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, Pink Panther etc. or even more contemporary classics like Duck Tales, Darkwing Duck, Count Duckula, Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers etc.
Ah, that was a purposeful decision. They are attempting to erase as many traces of old cartoons as possible, so that it basically doesn't exist anymore outside of niche digital distribution sites. They don't want to expose children to genuine quality, it's not even (((progressive))) enough

"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."
-George Orwell, 1984

>>388762716
>sjw boogeyman
Oh they are a very real thing. And they permeate all facets of Western animation.
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>>388762880
Man...down to the old-time US Jazz too
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>>388762880
Hahahahha weebcuck btfo
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>Switch
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>>388763267
https://youtu.be/2E87gciwebw?t=34

this is you
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There are two types of people on this board who don't seem to like this game. Strange because it's refreshing to see something like this. Wasn't it all hand drawn?
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>>388763697
>Wasn't it all hand drawn?
That's exactly what SJW millennials hate about it. They inherently hate anything that took effort to make, and think that effort in general is too problematic for them.
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>>388755784
These are all amazing.
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>>388763669
Anime came before cartoons, it's obvious. That's why animation from Japan gets its own name, and every other country can only make anime knock offs called cartoons.
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>>388763267
Do you know literally anything about Japanese history outside of Studio Ghibli and Nintendo? Until 1945 the Japanese were trying to emulate the European powers as much as possible, they wanted to become a colonial power. That's why they annexed Qingdao and Manchuria. Japan were the only ones who were stealing ideas
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>>388763697
yeah but so were jotun and severed
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>>388763874
Troll confirmed
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>>388762880
delet this japan was always original...
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>>388763215
Because it's what a fucking Triple A 2D game should look like in this day and age not like newgrounds bullshit(Rayman Origins)
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>>388756881
die bitch
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>>388764206
rayman legends was fantastic and better than cuphead by a country mile
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>>388755770
>Switch
>Holy Grail of video games

1 cent has been deposited into your eShop account.
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>>388764206
In terms of graphical style, yeah. Gameplay on the side-scrolling bits? No. Shit is literally filler and not even halfway-decent filler.
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>>388760552
Get the fuck out of here Yoshi's Island is actually good you humongous faggot
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>>388752119
how many times are you going to make this thread?
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>>388752119
>great visuals

chromatic aberration for no reason whatsoever.
/thread /game
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>>388753526
You just sold me on the game.
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>>388754743
>a disabled vegitarian man with tattoos who beats up white bullies
um, you sure this isnt a sjw cartoon?
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>>388756881
>good thing anime is becoming mainstream.

I remember when I was in 7th grade in computer class learning the basics of flash animation and when I learned how to use motion tween I said to myself "so this is why anime looks so cheap"

Manga>MOST western comics
Anime<MOST western animation
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It's alright when Vanillaware does it.
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>>388758190
>Art style is important in animation

Says the guy defending eastern animation/comics, which have literally one artstyle.
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>>388756881
you mean panning shots of completely still images or still images with 4 frames of mouth movement and nothing else?
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>>388764920
>he doesn't know about OVAs

typical 2010s anime watcher
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>>388764735
This /tv/ meme is pathetic just like the teenagers repeating it.
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>>388763292
One big wall of truth. I applaud you.
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>>388753054
>admire the devs
Devs probably had no choice in the matter - executives probably saw the backlash and made them start developing stages. And those poor bastards probably are on salary, too, can't imagine how much more time + cost it took to start the game over essentially
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>>388752119
> great visuals

Sorry, no. This retro abortion looks like shit. There is a reason that cartoons are not drawn this way anymore, it's because it looks like hot garbage.
This trash is the definition of nu-male hipster shit.
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>>388765083
OVA is another way of saying "straight-to-video", you know: shit.
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>>388764920
>Anime<MOST western animation
Modern western animation is shit. Modern anime isn't leagues better but modern cartoons are garbage.
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>>388765046
>>388765045
Weebshit have no taste, what can we say? Just glad 4chan is waking up to the facts and driving them back to their /a/ shithole.
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>>388765337
at least modern western cartoons actually hire animators and dont just farm shit out to cheap chinese labour
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>>388765337
More like animation in general became so shit they feel afraid of escaping it.
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>>388764920
I hope you're not including western animation from the last half decade or so.
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>>388764735
>chromatic aberration

I personally fucking love chromab. I hope for other anons sake they have an option to turn it off, though, since it looks pretty severe. Im into it, though.
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>>388765442
Tell that to /a/utistic /co/mblrina sheeple who eat up nu-shit on a regular basis. Sickening.
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>>388754862
wanna bet
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>>388754743

Millennials watched old cartoons you fucking dunce. Shit like Peopeye and Loony Toons were playing on television back then. They were reruns of course, but they watched them.
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>>388765397
>just farm shit out to cheap chinese labour
If that's what you actually believe then you don't know how anime is made. Plus cartoons do actually just outsource their shit to Koreans.
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>>388765515

Not really. I mean, I still think the quality of our animation on average is far better than anything the average anime is putting out in terms of detail and just the animation overall. Anime is too static. Modern cartoons are pretty horrible, but even modern spongebob at least has good animation.
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>>388765287
>He doesn't like old timey cartoons
Could you elaborate a little more?
Assuming you're not a sonybro or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20FhxjCaSEk
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>>388752119
>itt butthurt nintenbro
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>>388760106
Reminder that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and Bluto has eaten spinach himself and still lost to Popeye.
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>>388766172

man i love how in popeye the characters just ramble indiscernible gibberish at times.
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>>388766092
I don't think spongebob fits in with the modern crappiness. I see it more like starting with Bob's Burgers and really getting going with Adventure Time. Now it seems like everything is just god awful. Maybe i'm just biased because of what those cocksmokers did to Scooby Doo.
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>>388766420
>it seems like everything is just god awful.
You're not the only one. Most of us share this consensus despite that /co/mblr wants you to believe.
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>>388763292
>no debate against this post
And that's how you know we have a winner.
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>>388752119
Who keeps making these mock ups of games that will obvious never come to Switch? For what purpose?

It's PCfat levels of port begging.
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>>388766420

I would still put Adventure Time above most anime in terms of animation though, because shit is actually animated and theres motion.

I would say Archer is the closest thing to a western anime that we have. Not saying I dont like the show or cant enjoy the animation style, but its a lot like anime because everything feels very static. The difference being Archers animation has gotten better over time where Anime gets worse over time.
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>>388754705
It does.
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>millennials will eat this up though cause muh retro cartoons

Um what? This game isnt supposed to be for millennials
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>>388766382
>Popeye getting pummeled
>Getting his shit pushed in
>Sinbad stops for a second
>Popeye says "Do you give up?"
>Not even half a second after finishing his sentence gets his shit pushed in again
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>>388757018
>boy am i glad to be a citizen again
He's a neo-nazi skinhead fash... The only thing they condemned in that animation was the way they treated their workers. Not once did they bring up the jews, gypsies, or mentally handicapped that Hitler prosecuted...
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>>388766735
Really everything has gone to shit nowadays, and that's a universal agreement here. /a/ and /co/ cuck police be damned.
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>>388763267
They have not stolen anything
Japs made some shitty proto-anime in the early 1900 and when they relized it was shit they stopped doing it and started copying Felix the Cat
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>>388765807
>you don't know how anime is made
it used to be made by skilled animators back in the 80s and early 90s, todays garbage is barely even what you could call "animation"
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>>388763292
>Ah, that was a purposeful decision. They are attempting to erase as many traces of old cartoons as possible, so that it basically doesn't exist anymore outside of niche digital distribution sites.
This is so weird though considering back when I grew up they were showing all sort of old shit in TV(granted they had to fill the slots somehow but it was much appreciated)
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>>388767125
>modern feminism
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>>388767125
Are we posting funny old cartoons now?
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>>388763874
The "anime" from the early 1900 is not the anime you know of today idiot

That shit was experimental garbage that the nips dropped as soon as they started noticed what the west was doing in the mid 1910s or so
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>>388766735
I mean, yeah, they move okay but they still look like ass. If you're talking strictly the display of motion then it ain't bad, but you can't really separate the art and the animation while watching it.
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>>388766909

fucking kek

back in the good old days when you could just have two characters fucking pummeling each other over an ugly-ass woman.
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>>388767414
And it was fun experimental garbage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShzmzcJM7QI
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>>388767125
BITCH JUST GOT WRECKED LIVE LMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO

I actually giggled reading it, I love me some Popeye
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>>388766172
>One twister punch coming right up
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>>388763874
Also "anime" is just a short abbreviation for "animation" you fucking idiot
In Japan they call every sort of animation that exists "anime"

Before we used "anime" to describe japanese animation we used to call it "jap cartoons" or "japanimation"
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Coming 2013!
Coming 2014!
Coming 2015!
Coming 2016!
Coming 2017!
Coming 2018!
Coming 2019!
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>>388767487
You realize this trash came after Steamboat Willie?
And I was talking more about their work from the first 2 decades of the 1900s or so
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>>388767487
why does this old man have a huge ass cancer ball on his face?
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>>388752119
> A game like this has no business being an run n gun.

I thought this too when i heard it was no longer just a boss-rush mode and they showed off levels. I became mad and thought the game looked like shit now. However, I actually got to try it at a convention a few months ago and was surprised by how fun the run n gun segments were. I know you won't believe me, but trust me when I say it actually plays well and feels fun. When it's released, try and demo and then decide if you want to buy it.
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>>388752119
it's a good effort for a western game
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>>388766172
http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/59a730477fdfb-popeye-the-cyborg-man-revengeance.php
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>>388767068

Oh I agree, I just also would argue that while also having slipped into extreme laziness with out animation techniques, western animation is still better animated than eastern animation, on the whole.

I much prefer the visual style of old-fashioned hand-animated cartoons. When spongebob switched to computer animation I was sad, but the writing got shitty anyways so...It didnt matter.
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>>388767907
>music doesnt get hype when he pops his spinage
why bother
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>>388764702
He's refering to the ART STYLE you fucking cum dumpster they all look like cartoons
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>tfw nu-cartoons shills have finally been wrung out of /v/
Feels good man. Great to see people who were born in the right generation and have actual taste dropping redpills all over these shits.
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Well this thread blew up. It started with autistic weebs to polniggers complaining about cultural marxism to millennials bitching about millennials
Its like a roller coaster of autism
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>>388760235
Anime is already unfortunately becoming mainstream with crap shows like Death Note and Attack on Titan being popular with dumb teens and with Netflix shilling that crap.
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>>388768642
At the very least >>388768570 seems to be true, which is the best part of this thread by far.
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>>388767487
Ahaha old neighbor dude's face looks like a nut sack at the end.
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>>388768809 How old are you?
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>>388769029
40 Don't tell the other anons, I don't want them to think I'm weird.
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>>388767702

so i googled steambot willie because i hadnt watched it in probably a year or so and i love that old shit.

i watched it through some disney proprietary video player, and on the sidebar it had video for a show with a character that looked familiar to me, and i realized what it was. It was that alligator from the shower mobile game thing.

Did they make a cartoon for a mobile game character, or a mobile game for this cartoon character Ive never heard of?
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>>388767907
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>>388754743
>Seeing my favorite cartoon from my childhood being refer to as millennial shit.

Feels bad man.
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>>388752119
>A game like this has no business being an run n gun.

No kidding. If its inspired by classic cartoons the fights should be slapstick characters should be punching each other with giant fists, dropping anvils, etc. with big reactions. Not shooting beams at a bosses that don't react to your attacks.

Something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHEtj5T6OQ4
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>>388754743
>tfw popeye movie cancelled for emoji movie
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>>388764297
Rayman Legends is shit
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>>388764671
t. millennial faggot who has never played a Treasure game in his life

>>388764702
>Waaaaaaaah the game
>good
I'll have a Treasure Style Run 'n Gun over that garbage anyday of the week
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>>388752119
>this game looks like shit
>great visuals
>great audio
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>>388765574
>I hope for other anons sake they have an option to turn it off
I think I'm going to go insane one of these days.
How many times do you faggots need to be told that there will be an option to tone it down/turn it off?

At this point you're just shitposting
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>>388753526
Day one buy
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>>388764920
Well most western comics are capeshit so that's not hard to do
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>>388765083
They look worse than stuff like Batman TAS

>>388765337
>modern cartoons are garbage.
So is modern anime
Just fuck my shit up
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>>388754743
What are you talking about, most grew up watching old cartoon with the new things at the time. At least here.
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>>388769572
It's current year anon. Good animation is not allowed to exist anymore. Just look at the crap that /co/mblr eats up.

>>388768570
Yeah I kinda noticed that too. Glad I'm not the only one.
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>>388765396
Most anime are just watered down version of manga
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>>388769713
You know everyone can watch videos of Cuphead's sidescrolling parts right? We're all on the internet, motherfuckers can just google that shit up and see for themselves.
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>>388769848

Im shitposting by responding to a guy who was complaining about it? Youre rustled for nothing. I dont mind Chromab, learn to read.
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You niggas need to lighten up
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>>388767232
Back then they had cinematography too
This also goes for modern westernshit too btw(last good western cartoons were fucking Ed, Edd n Eddy and Fosters)
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>>388766172
He's a millennial weebshit faggot unclultured pleb
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>there will never be a large-scale rpg with loot and equipment set in the world of old cartoons with a matching artstyle

it hurts me
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>>388766172
>that lip-syncing
God fucking dammit Fleischer Studios why of fucking why did you insist on recording the voices after the animation was finished when everybody else at the time had moved to the new approach of recording voice acting before animating...God fucking dammit
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DUDE
CHROMATIC ABBERATION
LMAO
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>>388770038
>Just fuck my shit up
Couldnt've said it better myself
>yfw in 20 years SJW Universe and Reddit and Memey will be remembered the same way we remember actual good old cartoons
>yfw today's shitlets have never been exposed to good animation

>>388767232
>>388770284
Fucking this. So glad to see people actually fucking redpilled on animation I stead of eating up digitalized cancer like /a/ and /co/mblr. Fuck everything is so shit now.

>>388770374
The worst kind of person. Nuweebs and /co/mblr need to be gassed. I would unironically root for Avery single one of these shitty modern """"""""""""""animations""""""""""""""""" having their own version of Barneyfag.
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>>388770278
This.

It's hard to believe people would hate on this game. Like I said before, the hate seems to stem from two camps.
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>>388752119
You haven't even played it where are you getting your opinions from your ass?
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>>388752119
The only downfall is the gameplay.
Having played the demo, after passing the first boss, I just couldn't keep myself up to play it.
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>>388769521
>Japan can do the toony look better than America and the rest of the world ever could
Any more proof you need that Japanese are the best animators?
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>>388769521
>Should be slapstick characters punching eachother with Giant fists

FUCK YOU NOW I WANT THAT
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>>388766172
reminder that Popeye is a cheater
If he had no spinach Bluto would beat his tiny beta ass badly
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Feel the same way about sonic mania, good visuals and soundtrack but the gameplay is fucking garbage.
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>>388769572
Blessing in disguise. Would have been shit.
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>>388753054
>devs having no backbone and listening to a vocal minority of complainers
Why would you respect that?
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>>388770565
I mean at this point animation has no reason to even exist. That's what it feels like these days...like these companies are making them to fill a quota or something.

Even CGI movies like Pixar feel tired and they don't really get the splotlight they used to 10-15 years ago

This is the worst era of animation ever
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>>388770576
Yeah you did say that. It's pretty fucking meaningless without explaining yourself.
Our global warming crisis can be greatly alleviated with just two changes in how we do things.
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>>388769572
Thanks for reminding me
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>>388770678
t. Bluto
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>>388752119
Spotted the casual who can't into Contra and Metal Slug and STG
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>>388771051
>This is the worst era of animation ever
Fucking. Truth.

Don't let the cattle shitters on /co/mblr and /a/ hear what you just said, they'll be autistically screeching for years to come.

I would unironically beat my child if I saw him watching Steven Universe or Little Witch Academy.
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>>388766294
What short?
I'll give it to you that I haven't watched every Popeye short ever(though I've watched quite a fe of them) but I don't remember that.

Also does Popeye ever beat Bluto without relying on his magic spinach? I doubt it.
Just think it's unfair that Bluto always loses...he's so fucking big and powerful dammit
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>>388769374
>steambot willie
does he go around padding out statistics and watching live streams with a name of random characters?
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>playing cuphead
>nearing the final boss of the game, satan himself
>enter his level
>the chipper jazz that has been playing the entire game goes quiet
>level is a platform level but there are no enemies
>you just keep jumping and running
>this goes on for like 8 minutes
>finally you arrive at the boss
>jazz kicks in this time but with a different sound
>its a little faster and heavier than it was before
>boss fight kicks off
>jazz song transitions into some sort of industrial tech-metal/jazz fusion
>all hell is breaking loose and your SLI titans can barely handle the 2D olde-fashioned mayhem
>chromative aberration intensifies to insane levels regardless of if you have it turned off or not
>screen is shaking, making it extremely difficult to keep track of your footing in the boss fight
>you've been fighting for a while but the boss still have about a quarter of his health left
>game cuts to black
>white circle widens in the middle of the screen
>bosses lifeless ragdoll body gets tossed through the circle from the other side
>cupboy jumps through the circle
>winds his leg up and boots the corpse off frame
>starts whistling and tooting his straw as he cheerily jaunts off screen
>roll credits
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>>388766909
It's because they recorded the voice acting after finishing the animation so the lipsyncing was trash.
Fleischer Studios were stubborn in this regard and never adapted to the better method of recording the voice acting before doing the animation
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>>388771179
>>388769572

What if this was actually for the best? We've seen Sony Pictures Animation's track record, they probably would have fucked it all up. We might've dodged a bullet, man. What if they fucked it up?

>>388771303
>Little Witch
>Bad animation
>In the same sentence
>Unless in the context of "Little Witch does not have bad animation"
Studio Trigger is a good animation studio and I'm not quite sure why your taste is so bad.
SU isn't good in terms of Animation, though. You've got me there.
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>>388757989
Fuck you anon I didn't know how badly I wanted this
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>>388766735
>I would still put Adventure Time above most anime in terms of animation though
Above modern anime maybe
Still hate Adventure Time though. It looks ugly as sin and I would still not call it good animation it looks mediocre to me overall.
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>>388771529
> Studio trigger is a good animation studio
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>>388771529
>digital no-effort cancer with 99.5% inbetweens that only bottom feeding shitlets call """"""""""""""animation""""""""""""""
>good
And I wasn't just talking about the animation themselves, I'm saying that there has literally not been a single good cartoon or anime released this decade period, and everyone ITT can share that sentiment.
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>>388764920
Anime rarely uses tweening unlike american cartoons.

Also most american cartoons that aren't drawn like noodle people are completely stiff and reuse a fuckton of animation or outsource all their shit to Korea.
Frame pacing > Fluidness.
Also Fuck Hanna-Barbera.
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>>388766420
>Scooby Doo
It was always shit. Fuck this show even the 60s hanna-barbera original

It didn't deserve to be that popular. Cartoons like Top Cat, Dastardly and Muttley in their Flying Machines(Stop the Pigeon) and Wacky Races by the same company were infinitely superior and far more entertaining
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>>388771529
>Studio Trigger is a good animation studio and I'm not quite sure why your taste is so bad.

top kek
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>>388771643
>>388771817
>>388771923
>When you realize you're actually the one with shit taste
Well fuck
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I like Cuphead.
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>>388768075
>When spongebob switched to computer animation I was sad
That was season 2 actually
And it's still done by hand just colored in computers
Season 2 and 3 still were great seasons
The art-style became shit with the movie and the post-movie seasons

>but the writing got shitty anyways so...It didnt matter.
The writing didn't get shit until the after the movie
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>>388771923
>>388771643
This. Once again a weebshitter is proven to have no taste and will eat up any smelly brown goopy shit that gets shoveled in "his" mouth as long as it has le kawaii waifushit xd
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>>388767125
Top kek at that punchline at the end
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>>388771643
>>388771923
name some good current animation studios then
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>>388771817
Calling something digital is not a criticism.
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>>388772216
There are none.

>>388772245
Remember when animation had actual animators? Of course you don't.
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>>388772074
Man I just like magicshit and like the guys at TRIGGER, don't group me in with those guys

>>388772334
>Remember when animation had actual animators?
Just because you don't take the time to learn their names doesn't mean they don't exist
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>>388772334
>Remember when animation had actual animators?
Who do you think makes animation?
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Guys. I enter Cuphead thread.
I see /pol/, /a/ and Nintendo fanboys trying to smear it in shit.
> the only animation is anime
> the only console for platformers/run&guns is Switch

Well, just fuck off. As an Xbot - I'll gladly play it. The only concern is that it seems bit too hard to play with gf (she loved the artstyle) but I like challenging games.

Now boys, go back to Mario, Neptunia and /r/thedonald.
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>>388772523
bitch shut up
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>>388772523
Shut up dummy, I piss more Nintendo games then you could even hope to emulate and this game looks awesome. Don't talk for other people you fucking reprobate.
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>the only country with a real animation industry in 2017 sucks because it's all for GAY WEEBS LOL
>all digital animation is bad because fibble dibble
>all the legitimately good animation we've been getting in the last few years don't matter because it's not exactly like those 50 year old slapstick cartoons that I consider the only real animation
I want /v/ to leave
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>>388772523
I would love to have a serious discussion about animation but it's kinda hard considering nobody in this board actually wants to argue about anything and everybody would just rather hide their real opinions and ignorance under their lazy shitposting.
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>>388773007
>I would love to have a serious discussion about animation
...in the video games board?
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Has anybody played the game at conventions or events? The gameplay and the controls are good, right?
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>>388773124
Isn't the animation one of the main appeals of Cuphead? Shouldn't it be discussed the same way you could discuss soundtracks or writing?
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>>388770093
I'd take even mediocre animation as long as it had a good appealing art-style and some good humour.
Like for example Wacky Races...that animation is low budget as fuck but I always enjoy watching that shit because it has style, it's unique and it's fucking entertaining.
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>>388773298
You shouldn't expect informed opinions on animation here though.
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>>388770234
I was referring to people in general
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>>388771838
>>388772851
Fucking this. If you guys would stop sucking Americas dick for five seconds you would realize that their cartoons have always been really shitty, and their techniques haven't improved at all unlike Japan that took those techniques and built upon them to the point they've become theirs.
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>>388752119
>shit game feel
>game isn't out
Stfu you pretentious nobody
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>>388773329
Wacky races isn't entertaining, it uses outdated jokes and terrible animation. The anime parodies are actually better than the original cartoon.
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>>388770834
More like you're fucking garbage
Git gud you fucking scrub
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>>388772851
>all the legitimately good animation we've been getting in the last few years
Name them newshitter.

>>388773359
>You shouldn't expect informed opinions on animation here though
At the very least people here are finally waking up to modern cancer peddled by CN, Disney, Trigger, or any of these other hackjob cartoon providers.
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>>388771303
Don't beat your child
Just block access to that garbage
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>>388774051
I don't watch a lot of anime but I watched One Punch Man and Mob Pyscho a while ago and they looked great.
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>>388771817
>there has literally not been a single good cartoon or anime released this decade period
Fuck...I just realized that
Jesus fuck...I haven't watched cartoons since EEnE ended. At a point in my life I couldn't imagine my life without cartoons.
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>>388754743
>tfw all the old 30's Popeye cartoons on YT got taken down
>only the awful 50's ones are up
feels bad man
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>>388771817
>>388772334
To be fair the last few seasons of Ed, Edd n Eddy were done digitally(granted still drawn on paper but they didn't use cels anymore so digital coloring) and they looked pretty good

Fosters was done digitally from the beginning but it had it's own style that made it look appealing

The problem is just there's no genuine talent or creativity
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>>388774497
>mainstream crap
Okay we can conclude you have shit taste.

>>388774625
I know it hurts anon, we all feel your pain. And there's a while generation of kids growing up with that garbage, who have never been exposed to actual quality.

>>388772851
Oh look the /a/co/ nu-animation brigade has arrived.
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>>388772453
>Who do you think makes animation?
Used to not be hackshits using fucking Flash that's for sure.
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>>388774851
>mainstream crap
What does that even mean?
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>>388772216
There is unironically no good animation studio in 2017
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>>388775045
This anon speaks the truth. Blind shill cuckstains will still deny it.
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>>388771838
>Anime rarely uses tweening unlike american cartoons.
its because anime rarely uses ANIMATION these days.

say im wrong, how many animes have shots that are just a tight frame on a face while someone delivers a monologue (it cant be helped) while literally all thats being animated is a mouth opening and closing, not even in any relation to what is being said.

how many panning shots of a still frame are there?

how many action shots of a still character with a moving flashing background?

anime used to be something cool as shit, but honestly they got lazy and 90% of the stuff is just lazy and rushed out as quickly as possible to meet demand of otakus and weeaboos.

sure, western cartoons dont have as "cool" and edgy of a style to them generally, they are still very elasticy and cartoony, stuff like spongebob, rick and morty, adventure time etc, but at least someone is actually taking the time to sit down and draw frames of animation.
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>>388754743
But they love this, which is based around retro cartoons
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>>388775169
>say im wrong
We can't, you're absolutely correct. Now watch there be no other replies to this post beside mine cus you just schooled all the competition.
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>>388771838
>Also Fuck Hanna-Barbera.
if it wasn't for Hanna-Barbera tv animation wouldn't be a thing
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>>388771838
That's because western cartoons have no advantage for making good art.
Canada will pay you no matter how bad your shit is, so long as it's not racist/anti-raghead.
America just makes it into an industry for tax-fraud so you actually gain better profit by making failure garbage.

France is the last bastion of western animation and they've started outsourcing to Japan and Korea.
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>>388775296
Don't tell the shitlets shilling cultural Marxist nu-cartoons that.
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>/a/ is so jealous of Cuphead they have to shitpost every Cuphead thread

Damn that butthurt is too good
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>>388754743
>its casual /v/ contraianism
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>>388771838
>Anime rarely ever uses animation
ftfy

Also it's sad that even 60s Hanna-Barbera TV cartoons have fucking better animation than modern anime
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>>388775262
>bendy
Into the trash
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>>388775262
Bendy would've been great if it didn't have the religion aspect
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>>388775360
>France
I likes some french cartoons but they've always been small players in the animation world
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>>388773792
>have always been really shitty
This is objectively incorrect, you retarded weeb.
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>>388775169
>brainlets will believe this
Just look at one punch man or any action anime, it has better fight choreography and art style with excellent animation.
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>>388772851
>Japan
>Real animation industry
They just make 2D porn for creepy losers
>>
The brothers who made this did it all by hand, and had to mortgage their house to afford it.

That kinda dedication deserves some respect.
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>>388775591
They're some of the last players now.
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>>388775693
>Just look at one punch man or any action anime,
We did and it's all shit, stop being in denial.

>>388775374
No it's more /a/ and /co/mblr arguing over which turd is less unpleasant. The ultimate redpill is throwing all modern """"""""""animation""""""""""" into the trash.

>>388775815
This.
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>>388775616
Name a single example of good American animation without cgi or reused animation and no outsourcing.
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>>388775360
Films are the last bastion for animation. I'm not talking about movies either (besides a few exception like Laika), but short films have really helped artists shine. There is way more entertainment and emotion in a 3-5 minute short film than there is in a 25 episode anime or cartoon. Anime has a huge problem of using the same delivery for decades and there comes a point where you can predict how each frame will play out and how the VA (both JP abd ENG unless the dub goes full retard) will deliver each line.
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>>388775165
I know somebody will say
>But muh Ghibli
Miyazaki makes the same movie over and over again...great animation by a technical standards but boring and uncreative
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>>388772851
what's with weebs and autistically defending and shilling for anime?
what do they get out of it? its not like they're japanese so there's no pride thing
do they really think just because they watch anime it's now a life style for them or something?
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>>388775891
>deserves respect
Americans actually think people being retards deserve respect.
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>>388775693
ok you named one anime, i said 90% is shitty and lazy, im not saying there arent a few gems in the pile of shit.

compare this to anime stuff in the 90s, when everything was hand drawn, sure there was shit there too, but more often there was a lot of quality animation and its where japanese anime got its reputation as being amazing, but its stagnated and gotten half assed in the meantime, people realise half the weeaboo neets in the west dont really give a shit so long as something is just "japanese" they will suck it up, so they churn out stuff quick and easy.

ive included that video to show you how good anime used to be, look at the fluidity, the weight of movement, its not just someone stood in a pose with only their mouth and hand moving and then a short 5-6 frame pose change and then resuming to only animate the mouth etc.
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>>388775169
>it cant be helped
I just imagined some anime voice actor saying "shikata ne naa~" lmfao
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>>388771817
Wakfu
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>>388775169
>how many animes have shots that are just a tight frame on a face while someone delivers a monologue (it cant be helped) while literally all thats being animated is a mouth opening and closing, not even in any relation to what is being said.
>how many panning shots of a still frame are there?
>how many action shots of a still character with a moving flashing background?
That's true, but that's how anime works, unfortunately. The Japs have no money, anime is made on a shoestring budget, so what they do is spend their entire budget in a 2 minute long action scene where they give a bunch of 20 second long cuts to skilled animators who just go kinda wild and treat it as their own personal playground, while the rest of the episode is 100% budget saving techniques like dialog scenes where you just see random objects or the characters' backs. It's not pretty, but the unfortunate reality is that there is simply no money in the industry, and it is better to get 15 minutes of slideshows and 5 minutes of good and interesting animation rather than blowing what little budget they have on making the characters move their arms and faces while talking.
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>>388776119
shit, forgot video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBvKuPsIJQ8
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>>388756045
what about all development time wasted on other things? im not paying full price for that
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>>388775169
I disagree. How many Western cartoons are just a bunch of characters standing there facing left or right on a static background?
Even the best ones have a LOT of this laziness.
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>>388775169
>spongebob, rick and morty, adventure time
These may have more animation but they're lazy as hell too
Spongebob for example used to have some pretty good cinematography but now it's Zombie Simpsons-tier whenever I sometimes catch an episode on Nick

The new post-movie designs and expressions(you know what I'm talking about if you've followed Spongebob closely) don't help either.

Adventure Time/Rick and Morty never had any appeal. They're reddit/tumblr-tier.
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>>388775169
most anime was cheap trash, why do you think there was a crash
aside from a little more than a handful of outliers that are remembered today anime was just cheap
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>>388776051
They have nothing left to live for.

>>388776165
>>388776135
>>388776119
>>388776046
>>388775815
Seriously modern anime is getting BTFO so hard ITT, people are finally waking up to the fact that there is no good anime being released today.
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>>388775693
>one punch man
>excellent animation.
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>>388776372
>Spongebob for example used to have some pretty good cinematography but now it's Zombie Simpsons-tier whenever I sometimes catch an episode on Nick
the newest season is pretty good since the creator came back
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>>388776313
Just stop, they don't want to come to the realization that Japan and the West have the same problems in their animation. Japan is the only country that actually makes up for those problems.
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>>388776165
theres plenty of money, but its spread too thin, instead of making one really good animation, they will make 68, and just throw it all at the wall and see what sticks.

it used to be an art form, now its just a business, make stuff as cheaply and as quickly as possible, use computers, use cheap foreign animators, churn out as many generic characters with only a hairstyle change as their defining personality trait

manga video releases from my local comic book store (shout out to fucking calamity, you are missed) used to be my life as a teenager back in the 90s, but this modern drek just depresses me
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>>388776372
>They're reddit/tumblr-tier.
That can describe all modern "animation" actually.

>>388776521
>the newest season is pretty good
Stop fucking parroting shit that shill ecelebs tell you.

>>388776561
That's what I've been trying to tell everyone ITT. Animation is truly dead.
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>>388776010
Popeye
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>>388752119
woke cartoons are in
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>>388776661
>this eternally triggers and buttravages the /a/
b-but muh reddit hero academy and m-muh jojo
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>>388776686
>Stop fucking parroting shit that shill ecelebs tell you.
im not, i actually like season 10 and 11. some episodes are stinkers, but it's a lot better than it's been for years
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>>388776440
I blame digital animation for not only anime's downfall but also for the west's downfall too

The west
>Now that digital animation exists they make some crappy low-effort 2D cartoons that are ugly as sin
>Most of their stuff is flash or CGI trash
>What you see is what you get. Don't like it? We don't care

Anime
>Now they make more and more and more and FUCKING MORE ANIME
>To hell with quality, MOAR QUANTITY
>Paying nip animators? Fuck that we can hire some gooks for cheaper
>Making a good show? Fuck that we'll make some moebait it's easier and sells better
>We'll just take this manga and adapt it and we won't add much animation to it. Who cares? People will say it's good just because we're being faithful to the story even though it's million times inferior to the previous adaptation from the 90s(Hunter X Hunter)
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>>388776753
lol I said no outsourcing. But it's okay, I know America has never animated anything themselves.
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>>388775169
Budget cuts have existed since fucking Astroboy and are the reason anime still exist today. Not every shot needs to be bombastic and full of movement if it doesn't need it and the budget can't allow it. It's what you do with your frames what matters, not how many you have.
Animation and art are just illusions, if you can get the same effect for less work then there's not much reason not to do it. And don't even try to pretend that efficiency is laziness.

>its because anime rarely uses ANIMATION these days.
And this argument is just fucking nonsensical. If they didn't have animation they would use tweening because it doesn't require to draw extra frames at all.

>but at least someone is actually taking the time to sit down and draw frames of animation.
Yeah, not like those dumb japanese "animators" am I right? They just pretend to be overworked to death, in reality they are just lazy fucks and the computer does everything.

Tell me the last time you actually watched SpongeBob and thought "Wow this is really impressive" because I can post a lot of scenes from recent shows that may have less frames but are visually more interesting than anything from Nickelodeon bar Korra.
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>>388774019
It's great. Dick Dastardly makes that show.
The spinoff(Stop the Pigeon) was even more entertaining.

Nobody cares about anime parodies.
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Name one (1) good anime produced past 2010 that wasn't an adaptation to anything.
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>>388776313
yeah, its a short cut to be easy to anime
you know what anime does? have times where characters are just close ups on the eyes for minutes
how often is stock anime used?

but that's tv anime, they have to take short cuts because animation is EXPENSIVE
>>388776686
>That's what I've been trying to tell everyone ITT. Animation is truly dead.
good anime is in OVAs and movies
all these classic cartoons with stellar animation are all from movie shorts yah fucking idiot
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>>388776313
you are right, there are plenty of lazy "anime style" western cartoons too, but theres certainly a lot of good stuff out there, and in more variety of styles too.

japan turned making purple haired kawaii girl panning shots into an industry
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>>388774796
>Any Popeye cartoon
>awful
What?
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>>388776949
Ren and Stimpy
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>>388766172
>People who like sony can't like old cartoons

Where did this come from?
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>>388777026
Space Dandy

Only one I can think of.
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>>388776879
It depressed me to see nu-anons defending all of this trash modern animation. God it's so soulless. Glad /v/ has finally woken up to these facts in spite of the lies spewed by /a/ and /co/mblr shills.

>>388776997
Quit the damage control /a/, it's embarrassing, you already lost.

>>388777026
Nobody's gonna reply to this with anything good, just saying.
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>>388754743
>Millennials hate old cartoons, retard.
Yes because old cartoons only aired once and never again and re-runs don't exist
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>>388777026
Madoka Magica!
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>>388776031
There is no last bastion for animation
Animation is dead. What we're seeing nowadays is it's corpse constantly being kicked
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>>388775891
For once you're not being a cancerous piece of shit
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>>388776760
>Uh guys the cell phone is the fall of man.
>Guys look at my cartoon!
>Tinder is making it impossible for me find a good woman, all the Chads are hooking up with them.
>GUYS PAY ATTENTION TO ME!
>FUCKING PHONES ARE DESTROYING SOCIETY PEOPLE! STOP LOOKING AT THEM!
>Haha I'm so witty with my cartoon! Now time to distribute it on social media...
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>>388774796
If this came out today there would be a bunch of shitty fan theories about the in universe implications of that joke
Nigga it's just a cartoon ffs I hate fan theories so fucking much
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>>388777234
We all know that. You're just preaching to the choir. Still gets us fucking depressed every time.
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>>388777097
No outsourcing. Just face it, America technically has never made a cartoon, everything they've ever made has been outsourced.
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>>388776031
>Films are the last bastion for animation
that's the only place they were able to thrive dumbass
tv animation has to do all sorts of short cuts
there's only a handful of cartoons/anime made for tv that has consistently good animation
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>>388776997
if you have a great story to tell sure, i dont mind you being efficient with your animation and only doing what matters, but we arent exactly talking oscar bait here.

the thing i LOVED about japanese animation when i first saw it was just the lavish visual detail and smoothness of everything, i had grown up on shitty he-man cartoons and garbage like that, and to see this unparalleled incredible detail and high quality animation it blew my mind.

but i mean sure, you can make bad animation work for you with good writing, look at south park for example.

anime just isnt inspiring anymore, its all just generic shit, wheres the fucking whiskey
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>>388776458
But it actually does have pretty good animation in some places.
Come on, you can't just post pictures of anime people laughing. Post screenshots or gifs of QUALITY animation or something. Post that one gif of Pein. Post screenshots of Killer Queen's reveal.
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>>388776010
Ed, Edd n Eddy is the best TV Animation ever made and Nips will never ever come close to it.

Also
>muh outsourcing
Fuck outta here retard Japs outsource to Korea too
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>>388777456
>anime just isnt inspiring anymore, its all just generic shit, wheres the fucking whiskey
maybe you just grew up and the novelty wore off
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>>388777026
Question is a trap. No matter what someone says you'll call it trash, accuse people of having shit taste, and then post "Le_Anime_in_le_garbage.gif"
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>>388777234
animation went 3d, thats where all the talent went i guess.

I want my cool cyberpunk japanese animangos back though
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Let's talk about my waifu.
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>>388777548
>maybe you just grew up
No, I checked, anime, and animation as a whole, is objectively abysmal today, and I have the whole of this thread to vouch for me on that.

>>388777614
Then maybe you should stop liking trash then.
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>>388777446
You know that's Canadian, right?
>>388777009
>nobody cares about anime parodies
And yet they're still better than the cartoon.
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>>388777548
i can still go back and watch shit from the past and be held in awe by its quality, so no.
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>>388776686
I'm talking about their art-style
The new cartoon network shows since AT all have it

Spongebob doesn't have the tumblr look
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>>388777672
>>388777710
compare the notable anime from any single year back then, to the number of notable anime this year
the numbers will be comparable
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>>388777710
This "you just grew up" meme is just lies peddled by newshits who deny the fact that animation as an artform is long dead, so they can validate eating up literal shit.

>>388777750
>I'm talking about their art-style
Oh right, my bad.

Point still stands, only delusional reddit/tumblrtards enjoy modern animation, but at the very least 4chan can keep it contained to two cancer boards.
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>>388777660
She's got the coolest final form we've seen so far
I wanna see more of the angry candy bitch though
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>>388777527
>japs outsource to Korea too
First of all no they don't.
Second so what? At least they actually animate unlike America that outsources everything then takes all the credit.
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>>388776521
Pretty sure Hillenburg didn't come back. I think he's just advisor now. He's not the head-honcho showrunner like he was in the show's heyday

And even if they did bring him back as showrunner there's no guarantee Spongebob would ever reach it's previous heights again.
Look at The Simpsons trying to bring back David Silverman and they even brought back the writer for "Kamp Krusty" from season 4 to make a sequel for that episode but it still sucked
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>>388777527
>ed, edd n eddy
>good
Kill yourself
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>>388777234
Animators realized you can spend less effort and earn more money if they just make everything into a 3D model or a digital puppet.
Ren and Stimpy was notorious at the time for John K. demanding everything be made fresh and from scratch. He didn't want a single frame of reused animation. He got his way for a while before the reality of budgets and time constraits kicked on. That's why you have the same intermission animations between shorts. Captain Hoek and Cadet Stimpy shorts, the "Secret Club" skit, hell even the "See You Next Time!" skit were reused over and over, just dubbed over with new dialogue. It was filler. Now we can't do things like that without losing interest and having a billion arm-chair critics scream how it's all filler, so they just do everything on a computer and reuse animation constantly. Kill la Kill paved the way to make it okay. Dragon Ball Super does it constantly, and Western Shows reuse walking animations and action sequences constantly.

Thank Japan for making it standard.
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>>388778037
It is good you fucker
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>>388776686
You should watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqFNbCcyFkk

>>388776561
>Japan is the only country that actually makes up for those problems.
But they don't
All they care about is selling BD/DVD's and Merchandise
The anime industry is an unhealthy environment
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>>388778037
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>>388777525
Fine I'll post an old favorite of mine but it's not a gif
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I fucking love the artstyle and will buy it solely because of that. Fight me.
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>>388777750
a single studio usually has cartoons that look similar
Cartoon Networks in house cartoons back then (Johnny Bravo, PPG, Dexters Lab) did look similar. They all had thick outlines and a similar palette
but then you had Ed, Edd, n Eddy, and Courage the Cowardly Dog which were made by different studios but distributed by CN

Cartoon Network still has that with Gumball, and Teen Titans Go. These shows actually do contrast to CN's in house projects
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>>388778109
>>388778205
It is by far the worst CN cartoon
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>>388777621
Even CGI feels irrelevant
We need some innovation. If they're pushing CGI this hard and it feels this tired then they need to push it as harder as they can to try to make something realistic/photorealistic

This would at least be somewhat exciting. Can't believe that video games push for this more despite being rendered in real-time than Pixar or Dreamworks does.
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>>388755138
Hipsters don't exist anymore grandpa
That fad died out in spring tbqhwymgm
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>All this shit taste in this very thread

Looking at you, peopel who say modern day anime and modern day cartoons are horrible.
Yeah, by and large, I'd say not as much good shit is being made, but are you really going to imply that absolutely no good of either has been made for the last 7 years?
What the fuck kind of taste do you have to have to have to have legitimately not enjoyed shit like Over the Garden Wall or Space Dandy?
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>>388776561
>Makes up for problems.
>They jsut shove a sound track, audio book, light novel, 5 series of the same figure sin different poses, gacha toys, gacha trading card game, Vita/DS/Mobile game, dvd, blu-ray, and custom onahole.

Sure they do anon.
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>>388778408
According to...?
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>>388754743
Why are you guys talking about Millennials like you're not a part of that generation?
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>>388778359
Ironically when art styles were the most diverse in CN's in-house was during what people consider to be their worst era when they had Squirrel Boy, My Gym Partner's a Monkey, OG Ben 10 and Camp Lazlo
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God damn, the hells got you fags riled up?
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>>388778408
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>>388778494
>What the fuck kind of taste do you have to have to have to have legitimately not enjoyed shit like Over the Garden Wall or Space Dandy
Literally who? If they're so good why aren't they talked about
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>>388778408
>>388778037
>/v/ is so goddamned contrarian these days that it will shit on one of the most celebrated and universally loved cartoons of our time

I honestly can't bring myself to believe that this is anything but bait.

>>388778590
We care about this shit?
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>>388778359
Cartoon Network is the only animation channel that matters in the west and that's been true for the last 15 years or so

That old style was actually good so it wasn't a problem then. And also all of these cartoons were in-house(even EEnE and Courage). Courage originally had a pilot in Cartoon Cartoons before it was picked up. It's just that a lot of shows were inspired by Dexter's Lab success(shows like Cow and Chicken, I am Weasel, PPG, Johnny Bravo and many more)
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>>388754743
>Millennials hate old cartoons, retard. They would reject this game based on the art style alone.

Hello, (/pol/) snowflake!
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>>388778304
Alright I miss western hand drawn animation more than I probably should (Secret of Nimh is easily one of my favourite films of all time). But it's been so SO long since anything of that late 80's early 90's quality has been released that I'm not even entirely convinced the talent that remains in western animation can put out anything like that anymore. It saddens me to admit it because we lost an art form basically.

Japan, for now at least, still has hand drawn animation and yeah the quality varies wildly but at least its there. For now anyway, computer generated imagery is so much cheaper to produce and it's already showing up in some anime as the anime itself.
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>>388777956
With 30 bosses, I've got a feeling there's going to be some serious waifu material to come from this game.
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>/v/ will pretend to hate OK KO despite never watching it so they can impress other anons on how good they are at group think
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>>388778568
Problem is that out of those 4 shows only one fo them was actually any good.
Camp Lazlo. Because Joe Murray is a fucking awesome creator. Look at Rocko's Modern Life.
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>>388753526
ok shill you're pretty convincing I'll give you that
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>>388778494
>Space Dandy
>good
Shit taste confirmed
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>>388771529
Why is Alice so sexy?
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>>388778090
>Thank Japan for making it standard.
Thanks Japan!

Fuck I fucking hate nu-animation shiteaters so much. They consume nothing but shit.

>>388778494
>but are you really going to imply that absolutely no good of either has been made for the last 7 years?
Yes we are. Stop buying what retarded e-celebs and tumblrinas who have never been exposed to good animation and have no clue what the fuck they're talking about spew out from their asses.

>>388778662
>If they're so good why aren't they talked about
Exactly. Nu-animation apologists are desperate.

>>388778590
The death of animation as an artform and the denial from /a/utists and /co/mblrinas that animation is dead.

>>388778810
>more CalArts trash with pop culture references
Wow we sure are missing out. Fuck off.
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>>388778767
>And also all of these cartoons were in-house(even EEnE and Courage). Courage originally had a pilot in Cartoon Cartoons before it was picked up.
partly in house
EEnE was made produced by A.K.A. Cartoons
Courage was produced the Stretch Films
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>>388778167
At least it sounds relaxing already and not sounding like MrEnter shit.
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>>388778732
That is not bait, that cartoon was trash
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>>388778790
>we lost an art form
>we
No only America did and they can't lose something they never had, they don't animate they outsource. Secret of Nimh most likely was mostly outsourced too go check.
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>>388778992
>>more CalArts trash with pop culture references
>Wow we sure are missing out. Fuck off.
lol thanks for proving my point you fucking drone
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>>388778810
Looks boring as fuck, I'll pass man
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>>388766172
>I'm Popeye the Sailor Man
>I live in a garbage can
>I turned on the heater and blew off my wiener
>I'm Popeye the Sailor Man
God, the shit I remember from when I was young.
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>>388752119
What did you expect, westerners can't make action sidescrollers for shit
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>>388777187
Seriously just compare HxH 99 vs the 2011 version(pic related)
Old one is absolute kino
New one is lifeless trash

I would kill for at least art direction/colors such as these these day if they can't make good animation(movement). Fucking digital colors REEEEEEEE
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>>388778935
All versions are
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>>388777187
>>388779235
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>>388779097
>>388778790
we still have animation
CGI and stop motion don't count enough for you?
also story boarding is still used for all of these
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>>388779190
Contra 4
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>>388779235
I thought people only liked the old one because of some scenes from the Hunter Exam arc and how the Yorkshin arc was given a lot of detail and care because of how much the director liked Kurapika.
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>>388779235
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>>388779159
>I'm Popeye the Sailor Man,
>I live in a big white van.
>When it gets chilly
>I tug on my willy
>I'm Popeye the Sailor Man
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>>388755770
Anon, the only good things in there was a game I already own (King Knight campaign) and a game I was always going to buy (Travis Strikes Back/NMH3)

Even Meat Boy Forever looks like garbage and every other game was a lit.who title even for indies.
Duck Game, Lethal League and Nidhogg ports never ever
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>>388777412
>Ren and Stimpy
>outsourced
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>>388779190
>westerners can't make anything for shit
Fixed it.
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>>388779141
that's not really an opinion
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>>388778167
>Unironically posting that reddit-tier trending bullshit video.
No thank you.
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>>388778992
Your posting style makes it very obvious to tell how much you are samefagging, you know.
And replying to every post that agrees with you doesn't helps either
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>>388779434
Make if you're a retarded faggot with shit taste you'd think that
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>>388779434
you will never be Japanese, they will never accept you in Japan, you get nothing out of excluding yourself to only Japanese made products
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>>388779331
The old ones aren't.
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>>388779347
>>388779235
You're absolutely correct. Still, nu-animation scumbags will still herald this as proof that the medium isn't dead somehow. Digital truly is one of the greatest cancers to art. FUCK!

>>388779141
This. Millennials can't make good cartoons for shit.

>>388779372
Yes, nu-animation is redditkino. Glad we agree.
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>>388779356
That isn't animation, it's """"" animation """""
>>388779408
Yes it was outsourced which doesn't matter even if it wasn't since the creator is Canadian and doesn't count as an example of a good American cartoon.
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>>388752119
> shit game feel
you are a fucking faggot
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>>388779714
>That isn't animation, it's """"" animation """""
this count enough for you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLVnx9R7LrA
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>>388779356
Would be nice to have all three if you lump good digital animation with good traditional cel based.
>>388779443
?
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>>388777685
No they're not
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>Man I fucking hate anime, weebs and anything Japanese
>I know! I'll enter this basket making korean forum centered about anime, enter the videogame board, and tell everyone how much I hate anime! And if they reply to me, I'll just call them weebs, that'll teach 'em!
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>>388777412
>America technically has never made a cartoon
Except they're responsible for the best era of animation that ever fucking was from the 20s to the 50s

Drop dead you fucking moron
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>>388779714
>Yes it was outsourced
Source.
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>>388779828
>?
saying "lol looks boring" is a non opinion, it's based on superficial judgments
you know the old saying "don't judge a book by it's cover"
yeah you could argue "it couldn't catch my eye" well whatever dude, its not even for you
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>>388779941
Your post still doesn't detract from the fact that all anime nowadays is depressingly soulless digital cancer. Same goes for Western animation. The only people calling them good are redditor e-celebs and their legions of blind fans.
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>>388778090
>Animators realized you can spend less effort and earn more money if they just make everything into a 3D model or a digital puppet.
Then just drop animation altogether. There's no point to it anymore if you're not doing it right
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>>388779812
>Scooby fucking Doo
What are you five years old?
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>famicom/TMSfag invades /v/ with his shit opinions
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>>388778090
That's why Ren and Stimpy was good though
If I want to have a barely animated cartoon I'll just stick to much superior live action TV thank you
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>>388780084
>famicom/TMSfag
Excuse me? This is a thread about modern animation and the death of the artform, not about Famicom or Tokyo Mirage Sessions.
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>>388752119
cant wait to see what people who watch that deep jungle walk video will think of this
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>>388777026
Luluco.
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>>388780192
found you
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There are retards that genuinely believe that modern anime isn't superior to the garbage from the 80s and 70s, even though moeshit was more prevalent during those eras.
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>>388778992
>>388779602
Wait a second, I recognize this style of shitposting, weren't you the guy some months ago creating threads about how much you hated ""Nu-""Pokemon, adding "Nu-" to anything you didn't like(like ITT), samefagging a lot, and replying to every post that agreed with you, all while spamming pics with strawman arguments about how Gen1 was the only good gen?
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>>388780013
fil-Cartoons a Philippines-based animation studio animated it
>>388780004
Except they're responsible for paying other countries to make the best era of animation that ever fucking was from the 20s to the 50s

Drop dead you fucking moron
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>>388752119
I'm surprised disney hasn't sued due the color of his body and pants.
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>>388780249
this
>people actually think millenials dont like old cartoons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw3C03Ba8Dk
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>>388778790
>But it's been so SO long since anything of that late 80's early 90's quality
Just as a short a while as 2008 and 2009 we had Ed Edd n Eddy still airing on TV actually

But that's the last breath from the old cast as they say. The new generation of western animators are despicable trash.
It says a lot when A FUCKING LEAF with no animation experience was able to teach himself the techniques of the old disney masters and make 70% of the Cuphead drawings himself

This new generation doesn't respect the history of animation otherwise they would have studied from the books of the masters like the Cuphead guy did and not the trash they teach at Calarts nowadays
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>>388780426
Disney has until 2023 to figure shit out, because he goe spublic domain then.
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>>388779347
I honestly cannot stand the the 2011 anime for HxH. The spend way too much time explaining FUCKING EVERYTHING. It seriously annoys me how much time each episode is dedicated to exposition and explaination of something we just saw. A lot of Anime suffer from "telling instead of showing" but it's really bad in HxH
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>>388778662
Probably because they weren't long running series that aren't getting any more new content due to being a complete story. You'd need a very specific conversation for them to be talked about, because there simply isn't anything new to talk about with.
Also browse /co/ more, I'm pretty sure we've had two OtGW threads this week
That's like asking "If Ren and Stimpy or Cowboy Bebop are SO good, why aren't they still being talked about?"
>>388778992
>Yes we are. Stop buying what retarded e-celebs and tumblrinas who have never been exposed to good animation and have no clue what the fuck they're talking about spew out from their asses

Dig the cum out of your ears and stop being such a fucking faggot and look at this shit you fucking afterbirth.
You're going to look at this and you're going to tell me that it looks like shit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4ApvZYrX4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwtH9A8oErI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux80KNz5c6o
And what fucking E-celebs are actively sucking this show's dick? Point them out to me, because I'm not wise to the whole e-celeb thing.
But in the end, I guess I am a fucking idiot for arguing with a braindead shitposter with a grand total of 5 neurons.
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>>388780536
its an animation short cut
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>>388779347
>>388779235
And this is how I know you're clueless. 99 is complete, utter trash with god-awful animation and pacing garnished with a few interesting shots, which mongoloids love to cherry pick.

Just absolutely clueless.
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>>388780516
Won't they just renew Mickey because of money?
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>>388778790
>still has hand drawn animation
There's no animation. 99% of shows are just mouth flaps with the occasional boob bounce man.

And even the rare so called by anime fans "well animated" action scene leaves no impact whatsoever most of the time
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>>388780516
>he goe spublic domain then.
They'll throw a fuckton of money to the goverment to not loose the character.
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>>388780516
>Disney
>letting the mouse go into public domain
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>>388780026
That's a fucking opinion man.
Subjective sure.
Watched some clips? Not interested, that's my take.
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>>388778810
>that pic
Just why oh why do they hire people from deviantart these days?
Is professionalism dead?
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>>388780536
That's because autists have to know exactly how something works for their headcannons. If they don't explain everything in detail, people go on reddit and bitch about how the studio is too cryptic and mysterious.

or in the case of AoT, some intern will just spoil the whole fucking thing and ruin it anywya, so just ruin it yourselves and sell spinoff figures and trading cards.
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>>388780280
>tweenimation

fuck off
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>>388779828
>Would be nice to have all three if you lump good digital animation with good traditional cel based.
it would be but there isn't really enough for a niche market
you could have supported that dragon's lair movie, but it failed because there isn't enough of a market for it
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>>388780507
>This new generation doesn't respect the history of animation otherwise they would have studied from the books of the masters like the Cuphead guy did and not the trash they teach at Calarts nowadays
It's all about "gender politics" and the consumer is guilty of letting it thrive, seeing the popularity of stupid, awfully animated shit like Steven Universe. Don't fucking try to convince me otherwise, /co/mblr! Steven is terribly animated, but because they're round characters, almost jelly-like with no sharp corners, it "feels good" to watch.
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>>388780620
They're almost to the end of their ability to do that. The only reason they've gone this long already is because of money.
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>>388778827
Ben 10 was the only good one(sequels sucked but OG series was good)
I found Squirrel Boy to be far superior to Camp Lazlo. The latter always rubbed me the wrong way.
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>>388780045
>soulless digital cancer
You mean like video games?
Kill yourself
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>>388780680
>That's a fucking opinion man.
not all opinions are equal
would you say a well detailed constructive criticism that details on its points is equal to "lol that sucks"
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Digibro could argue circles around anyone in this thread

Anime is better than ever
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>>388780280
Luluco is too sexy
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>>388778810
Holy shit, that's a chromatic aborration.
And more CalArts style, ew.
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>>388775262
>>388775523
>>388775547
>Five nights at Undertale
into the trash also.
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>>388778568
You forgot Fosters, Kids Next Door and some other I can't remember right now
And all of those shows wren't that bad though Gym Partner was gross.

I liked Ben 10(only the original fuck the sequels) and Squirrel Boy(underrated) out of those 4. Never could get into Camp Lazlo.
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>>388780845
I'm not trying to make shit equal, my opinion's irrelevant in the larger scale of most things, but it's my opinion, I ain't going to shit on people who like the show however
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This thread reeks of under-21.
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>>388779002
You get what I mean
There were a lot of shows like that
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>>388777026
Have a list of 94 anime that were anime original stories with a rating above 5 on anidb, which unlike vidya ratings is actually above average

http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&type.tvseries=1&tag.2797=0&rating.min=5.00&orderby.rating=0.2&orderby.name=1.1&noalias=1&airdate.start=01.01.2010&airdate.end=01.09.2017
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>>388781085
All shit.
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>>388779471
Super Eyepatch Wolf makes some good videos regarding anime and sometimes westernshit. He doesn't make many videos but when he does they're pretty comfy.
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>>388767350
hahaha why is he such an asshole
Is he like that in the cartoons?
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>>388757814
>>388760342
>>388761316
>>388763224
>>388759753
>>388757724
>>388760235
I think that Popeye animation looked amazing, and the weeb dissing it was fucking retarded, but what do you guys think of stuff like this?
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>>388781180
This happens way too much.
>Show me a list of good anime
>Show me a list of good shows
>Show me a list of good western games
>Show me a list of good eastern games
>Show me a list of good films
And all anons always, ALWAYS, without fail, just reply "All shit" or a similar response to convey the same. I hate this shithole once it became jaded post-2005
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>>388781185
He also unironically eats up nu-trash, exactly the type that /co/mblr and /a/utism-speaks would say is /theirguy/

>>388780708
>Is professionalism dead?
Yes it is. Fucking new generation of animators are the greatest fucking shitbags to exist.

>>388780463
They don't. That's why they eat up shit like Steven Universe while shitting on the old masters of animation.

>>388780507
So much truth packed into one post. Jesus fuck why do people enable these shit nu-animations.

>>388780939
Yeah, that's exactly the shit nu-animation apologists convince themselves is good. People with actual knowledge in animation would tear this shit up.

>>388780973
>I ain't going to shit on people who like the show however
You're being too soft anon. These people have no standards. They must be punished.

>>388780786
Fucking this as well. Good thing this thread was well able to drive the /co/mblr cancer away from this board.
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Time to post some old favorites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WEFIp6GYT0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEWWw-NSe4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwYfJQ5MosE
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>>388780728
I know, sucks but what can you do.
Maybe one of these days someone skilled can use flash well, probably have and I've missed it out. It's just a tool afte rall.
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>>388781309
Dumb spic
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>>388781309
>You agreed with me twice.
>And I agree with your opinions too.
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>>388778037
Best animated show to ever air on TV
Deal with it
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>>38877745
Japanese animation was never fluid outside of movies and rare occasions (still present today.) I'm not arguing that it's okay for Japanese animation to not be fluid because they have shit budget, I'm arguing that more fluidity doesn't make it better.
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>>388780815
>Ben 10 was the only good one(sequels sucked but OG series was good)
Omniverse is hard to take in at first, but it's fun and actually has really good animation for a tv cartoon
>>388780939
sup famicom
>>388780970
yeah i forgot about Fosters, it was also made in Flash
KND wasn't in house either, it was produced by Curious Pictures
turns out Camp Lazlo, and Fosters had another production company attached to them but were still produced by CN. CN only produced like 2 KND episodes
>>388780973
stop being so sensitive. if you don't care you don't care. you don't deserve validation for not caring
>>388781075
true but not as much as other shows
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>>388754220
>0/10 bait
>still responds
10/10 mad nintendie faggot
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>>388780713
Even Toriyama parodied that shit
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>>388781309
You're dumb.
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>>388752119
Man, I wish it WAS coming to switch. I'm still gonna get it, but it's something I'd rather be able to play on the go
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>>388781309
>Nu-Nu-Nu-Nu-Nu-Nu-Nu-Nu-Nu-
Jesus kill yourself, first you ruin Pokemon threads with your shitposting and now this
Fuck off
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>>388781440
>ever
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>>388781565
>sup famicom
Uh, is famicom someone, or you're trying to bypass the f a m filter?
Anyway, sup. I loved Camp Lazlo, but I absolutely dig Murray's style. I'm so hyped for the Rocko movie.
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>>388781565
>stop being so sensitive. if you don't care you don't care. you don't deserve validation for not caring
I don't get ya man.
I'm just saying I'm just not pleased and that's it.
Have a nice day though.
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All cartoons are dumb, prove me wrong.
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>>388781869
I agree, anime is where its at
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>>388769572
Popeye movie would have been trash by sony.
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>>388781869
I agree even though your bait gives you away as a child.
>>388752119
This thread actually hit bump limit, unbelievable.
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>>388781938
I had trust in Genedy though.
Probably wouldn't be a Samurai jack S5 thing though
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I like both old and new anime, and old cartoons
What now?
Did I break the endless cycle of shitposting?
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>>388781932
anime is cartoons
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>>388782056
What part of endless don't you get
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>>388781997
Ever sinceSteven Universe and late Adventure Time, /co/ became a terrible place to discuss cartoons.
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>>388782097
What about comics
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>>388780809
If you don't think money can make it go on forever, you haven't learned how America works.
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>>388782056
>I am complacent with garbage
You could have just easily said that.
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>>388782168
Eh.
Talking DC is a shitshow.
Talking Marvel is slightly better but you get random accusations of MUH CINEMATIC CASUAL
MUH DISNEY
FUCKING NORMIES REEEE
Even though I've liked Marvel Comics since the 90s and I lament the death of the Fantastic Four comics.
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I know this game is bad for the lack of WEBMS or anyother game footage trying to shill it
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>>388782168
American propaganda, now more than ever.
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>>388782070
The fact that everyone calls Japanese animation anime and western animation cartoons proves you wrong
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>>388782241
>I am a faggot who hates it when people enjoy things
You could have just easily said that.
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>>388780280
But Luluco was vapid garbage?
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>>388782327
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>>388778494
>Over the Garden Wall
Literally tumblrshit
>Space Dandy
Fucking garbage aimed at Western Bebob Fanboys that was pretty much commissioned by the West themselves if memory serves right
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>>388777026
Lusty Sex Academia
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>>388782429
The character or the show?
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>>388782494
The show.
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>>388782523
Wrong.
It's both
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>>388782241
>>I am complacent with garbage
More like he isn't a blind sheep to your opinions, you fucking faggot.

Accept the fucking fact that everyone should not be just you and that people have their own opinions.
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Eh, it looks cool as fuck to me. I'll wait until the game comes out before deciding it sucks or not.
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>>388781565
Omniverse is too cartoony for my taste but I was referring to the "Teenage sequels"
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>>388752119
I am surprised by it's graphics but I'm sad it's touted as the first "playable cartoon" when Wario Land Shake It did it first.
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>>388781565
>i forgot about Fosters, it was also made in Flash
Toon Boom not flash
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>>388782485
But the OVAs were better
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>>388782635
>I'll wait until the game comes out before deciding it sucks or not.
Get the fuck out of /v/
Why can't more Anons be like this
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>>388780280
>>388782429
Why is Luluco so sexy even though she's so young?
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>>388775169
I was with you until you did the '[..] and got lazy' bit. Which is essentially going 'MUH 90'S ANIME WAS SO MUCH BETTER!' when it's pure selective bias.

90's anime was just as shit now

>b-b-ut what about [list of anime]

Well, friend, you remember those anime because they WERE good. Because at the time, anime was obtained by either buying the import (as in, they only sold the good shit) or by getting a copy off your mate (read; illegal dish owner grabbed it for you). Now? Now you can not only watch anime nearly instantly, but you can read reviews about it, read the plot synopsis and so on. Everything that is popular is shown and thus people think that's it, just like they did in the 90's, except that's not the case. There is lots of good anime which just isn't popular. A recent example would be Princess Principal, it's nothing special, but an interesting setting with a engaging story. But Japan isn't interested in it, so little art is done on it, little is written about it and it isn't 'popular' so people don't watch it. This applies with countless animes, but had this been the 90's, you wouldn't have the season listings of every anime for you to read and to look for a gem, or even somebody to do it for you and tell you it's a gem. In the 90's when 'anime was SO MUCH BETTER', you only got the good because getting the bad was a waste of fucking time for the West for multiple reasons.

Anime has improved in quality, what hasn't improved is studios willing to spend it. The reason 'moeblob' is common is because it sells. You won't get 400 episode epics like LotGH again because it's just not going to sell. Grimgar was a better 'MMO but realz' anime than Log Horizon or SAO, yet it won't get a second season. Overlord's 2nd is taking ages.

tl;dr anime is the same as it was except you're older now, more jaded and you don't pay for your anime so you're quicker to dump it rather than enjoying the VHS.
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>>388781565
The thing is that KND is considered an Original Cartoon Network show(it's exclusive to the network) compared to stuff like Johnny Test or Storm Hawks(underrated af btw) for example which are obviously acquired shows.
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>>388782736
Wrong.
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>>388782485
>reddit garbage gobbled up by retarded nuweebs
Didn't prove anyone wrong anon.

>>388782437
Did you think a millennial cuckstain like him would list anything good? You must not be familiar with the mind of a nu-animation apologist.
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>>388782437
>Literally tumblr shit
Explain
>Implying that makes Space Dandy bad
Really stimulates my macadamias
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>>388779037
You're trash
EEnE was a masterpiece
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>>388778090
>Animators realized you can spend less effort and earn more money if they just make everything into a 3D model or a digital puppet
Animator didn't realize shit, nobody works in that industry for the money. If you become an animator is because you like drawing and that's it. It's not going to give you fame or money and you will be overworked to death.
>Kill la Kill paved the way to make it okay
KlK didn't do shit, anime has been using 3d since fucking Char's Counter-Attack.
And DBS is outsourced to Filipinos all the dame time.
>reuse animation constantly
Nothing to do with computers and Toei has been doing it for decades. In fact most children shows do it since forever.
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>>388782356
Then what do the Japanese call western animation?
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>>388782894
>>reddit garbage gobbled up by retarded nuweebs
Holy buzzwords Batman!
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>>388782960
>>388778090
In DBS (and Sailor Moon Crystal) case however, the animation is terribly outsourced to create an insentive to buy the overpriced Blu-Rays with better animation.
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>>388780786
It's also Jews killing American Tradition
The 12 principles of animation by the old Disney Masters should be considered a national treasure for fuck sake.
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>>388783059
Fuck, I'm not even American, I'm just some thirdworld fucker that admires both the meticulous effort of the west (Disney), and the shortcuts the east uses to juggle around a tight budget (One Punch)
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>>388779190
Jazz Jackrabbit 2 would like to have a word with you
>>
This was a nice thread.
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>>388779190
Sonic 2 and Sonic 3&K were made in San Francisco at STI.
Japan made Sonic 1 and Sonic CD which were inferior.
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>>388755784
Nice cherry picking.
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So when are we going to get a game that mimics the aesthetic of 80's cartoons?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Kgfp9jpLg
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>>388782831
>Grimgar
>mfw looking it up and realising I've watched it but can't remember anything
Maybe it was missing something to make it memorable
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>>388783337
Late 80's and early 90s would be amazing.
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>>388783059
>It's also Jews killing American Tradition
This. It's also why so many shows these days promote far-left ideals such as antitheism and racemixing (Steven Universe, Star Vs, and Rick & Morty are well-known examples of this.

>>388783270
Well we drove away /a/utismspeaks and /co/mblr and reminded them that nu-animation should not be celebrated or shilled here, so I'd say this thread was a success.
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this thread was great.
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>>388782485
>watch OVA
>think it's going to be about cool dungeon crawling, Harry Potter-ass magical adventures with European Dark Fantasy themes juxtaposed Japanese cute witches and magical girl stuff
>it's a bunch of boring lesbian slice of life shit with a modern focus on technology
>when Sucy and Lotte aren't being shitty friends to Ako, they vanish completely from the show
>that fucking dragon episode
>Chariot turns out to be human garbage
>people getting ass mad over a soccer game is the final boss

It's shit.
Constanze deserved better.
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>>388780616
Fuck off 11redditard
You prefer exposition with no animation. Might as well read the manga.
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>>388782983
To them they'd refer it as anime
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>>388783419
Time to flood this thread with cancer before it 404's I guess.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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