Sonic Mania Denuvo Offline "fix"

Hows it make neo /v/ feel knowing that I will never purchase a single player game ever?

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Fucking hell.

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>bug

one day after Steam release and there's already a shit storm :)

So is Denuvo the reason I get random slow downs in Mania? Because I wouldn't have expected this of all games to do it. I have an I5, 16gigamemes of ram, and a 760. I mean it's not the girthiest machine out there but fuck man this game should not be dipping this hard randomly.

>>388733612
HOLY FUCKING SHIT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>388733530
>Hows it make

>>388733530
feels good seeing the master race narrative falling apart every day

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>>388733452
What the fuck.

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>Paying money to rent a digital license

What did you expect?

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>BUG

CHRIST, how dumb do they think we are?

Anyone else done buying games altogether?

>>388733720
Third world detected

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>Delay game by two weeks (14 days)
>Give players a free copy of Sonic 1 under the guise of an apology
>Store page makes NO mention of Denuvo whatsoever
>It's not even mentioned in the terms of service when you download the game
>Store page updates with Denuvo on day of release
>People who pre-ordered find this out and attempt to refund
>THEY FUCKING CAN'T BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVEN SONIC 1 TWO WEEKS AGO (14 days) WHICH IS THE EXACT AMOUNT OF TIME YOU HAVE TO REFUND

>>388733803
The bug was not letting people play in offline steam mode. However, its fucking pointless because Denuvo still requires you to be online kek

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>>388733765
If you are being pissed on you can be happy that your opponent is being shit on

>>388733714
Beat the game yesterday with no problems. 970, i7 4790k, 8 gigamemes of RAM

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>>388733895
HAHAHAHAAHAH

>>388733992
I can play mania on my switch offline though, though it is a shame Sega went digital only. It's like they want the game to fail because they are worried it will overshadow forces

fuck is going on here

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>delays pc version of mania at absolute last second for two entire weeks
>did this to add always online DRM
>purposely hide that the game has DRM on the store page, and then claim that the inaccurate store information and the online requirement are "bugs"
>"fix" the "bug", which doesn't mean removing the online requirement, but actually just means they've replaced the error message with a "you need to be online to play this lol" message

This is some next level shittery.

>>388734210
And "masterace" can just pirate it if things come to worse.

>>388733452
>first launch
steam games always need that to function properly tho

>Pirate the fuck out of every day
>Studios find ways to combat it agressively
>Cry

PC 'master race' everybody!

>>388733714

I had random slowdown at one point. Never encountered any slowdown in Switch version so there's every possibility.

>>388734020
So should I upgrade to an i7 or the 970 for this beast of a game?

>>388734470
Lying and using bat & switch tactics to ensure your paying customers are bamboozled is the problem. Pirates are completely unaffected.

>>388734470
It's just a bug

FUCK SEGA

>>388734470
>pirates literally get no dowsides to it because of the endless amounts of games released every single day
>honest, paying people are the only ones that get rammed in the ass by the "innocent" publisher
lol yeah, you sure showed us, faggot.

>>388734470
Denuvo doesn't combat pirates. It fucks honest consumers. Pirates still get this game in due time and they do not care about delays or poor performance or always online because it will never affect them.

Denuvo is anti consumer. Not anti pirate.

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>>388734470
heh...

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>>388733452
Whitehead must be seething into oblivion right now

>>388733714
Maybe. Turning vsync off should help. If you're still getting slowdown without vsync then, yes. Denuvo has fucked you. Without it this game should run smoothly on hardware ten years older than what you have.

>>388733895
>THEY FUCKING CAN'T BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVEN SONIC 1 TWO WEEKS AGO (14 days) WHICH IS THE EXACT AMOUNT OF TIME YOU HAVE TO REFUND#
source?
mine went through fine

>>388733895
That's really bad. This will just put a big stain on the game.

>>388733612
Some people are really dense

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>>388733530
>only plays online multiplayer games
>calls OTHERS nu/v/

>>388733895
So could I technically sue them over this?

>>388734687
He should have just pulled the game instead of releasing it like this.

He sold out for money.

>>388734470
>aggressively fight something that can't be stopped
>end up losing your consumers, creating a PR disaster and gaining none
Makes sense, Sega was always known for being suicidal.

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>>388733895
>they did all this just so they can get an extra $20

>>388734806
>pull the game
>when you where already paid for it
>and the execs decided to implement denuvo

You really don't know how everything works do you?

>>388734684
>publishers still don't get it

When I go to steam the reviews are "mostly positive"

But when I filter language to only english it's mixed

Why are they factoring the reviews of subhumans who don't understand consumer rights into the score we see?

Those are the kind of threads we used to have like 10 years ago

>>388734470
Why do you think making a game harder to pirate is going to stop piracy?
People pirate mostly because they either don't have the money or they don't want to pay. Denuvo is not giving people more money for games and it's actually driving away customers.
Same shit that happened with GFWL, Securom, Always Online, etc.

>>388734795
Your legal fees would eclipse the amount you lost on this game a hundred or thousand fold.

>>388734684
low sales on these games has nothing to do with denuvo. most are shit other were fucked by marketing

>>388733452
Thats the denuvo message. You only have to be online for the first launch

>>388734931
But the game is fucking good you fucking nigger, the only problem is that SEGA decided to implement Denuvo

>>388734950
It's the principle and to set a legal precedence.
Honestly court is the genuine only way we are going to be able to end jewery in modern vidya

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>>388734990
>low sales on these games has nothing to do with denuvo

>>388733612
...this literally the same for games that use steamworks.

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>>388733895

>>388734684
DENUVO (((SHILLS))) ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>388734684
>old games that have been on sale numerous times at 90% off have more sales than games who haven't
shocking

>>388735017
Then the game should be mixed to negative until they remove it, at which point it will go to its correct state.

Stop showing me the opinion of subhuman chinks who don't understand consumer rights and only paid $3 for it anyways.

>>388735027
what the fuck you're trying to say?

>see game is out
>check most popular torrent site
>fucking nothing
>huh it must have denuvo and not be cracked
>go to /v/
>this is the first thread

wheres the torrent you niggers?

>>388735017
That's part of the game. It could have been the second coming of Christ, it would still be always online malware. Anyone rating this release positively is either a shill, a Segatard or a standard retard.

>>388735064
damage control

>>388734950
Which is why any lawsuit you would file would include "and recompense for any and all legal fees".

>>388734990
Denuvo is bad PR by itself, also it cost money and dev time to implement.

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>>388735064
Hehe...

>>388735083
>pays for a game
>lmao YOU'RE option doesn't count because I say so!

Autism

>>388734724
You never played the emulator they gave you. If you have played your free Sonic 1 or ANY OTHER ROM in Sega's shitty official emulator for over two hours that's your refund time used up. The people who can't refund must have at some point used that emulator. At some point in the distant past before being given Sonic 1, even.

Just wait till its cracked.

>>388735193
>wanting to hear the opinions of bootlicking commies and subhuman spics who paid $1 (basically pirating) the game

>>388734524
>dodecacore CPU
>GTXXX 995
>8 TB of RAM
>2D game is still lagging
THANKS DENUVO!

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>>388735145
You don't belong here.

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>They fucked up the wording of the message so it looks like you need to start the game in online mode and turn offline on to go offline ever
It's the normal steam deal of turning a game on once with the internet on and the game working fine after that point. I just started Sonic Mania in offline mode.

Still. Hopefully this shit is gone for good soon.

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>>388734684
>every single game in the No denuvo column is years older
>every single game in the No denuvo column has been through multiple big sales
>every single game in the No denuvo has been in multiple Humble Bundles

I mean Hitman Absolution was fucking a dollar at one point.

It's almost as if when you're out for longer you sell more

>>388735192
much better. i can't imagine how many times the guy who made the original had to be called retarded before he finally updated it with relevant information.

>>388735192
Oh shit nigga had a trap card ready.

>>388734931
>subhumans who don't understand consumer rights
Because that describes anybody who uses Steam.

>>388733452
>buying a switch game on PC


why would anyone ever?

>>388733895
>fags falseflag because they dont know how refunding works
Made me reply

>>388735315
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>>388735435
>facts are damage control
found the american

>>388735315
cuck

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>>388733452
>>388734404
>first launch

So you can launch it later in offline mode?

>>388735148
>>388735083
I only left a positive review because I want more Sonic Mania for fuck sake, this fucking denuvo garbage might tank any chance of getting Mania 2 FOR FUCK SAKE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>388735491
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>>388735607
They deserve it, taxman can release mania 2 as a fangame.

>>388735253
>1 burger
I wish, games are 20% cheaper here (Chile) even though purchasing power is 60% lower in comparison with the USA.

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>>388733530
it makes me laugh

>>388735435
JC3 was shit
Primal was a game nobody asked for
RotTR was fucked by xbox timed exclusivity
Hitman got fucked by episodic release and sour taste of Absolution
Homefront was super bland

>>388735621
lmao oh shit it was true

>>388735491
Control for 6 months after release then, if you're so convinced Denuvo doesn't affect sales.

>>388735491
>>facts are damage control
>claiming how you feel about raw data is fact
>>388735192
>ignoring the undeniable fact that denuvo games sell slower than older iterations of the same franchise
I see through your antics. You're the real American here spinning and damage controlling! I bet you work for CNN.

>>388735781
Same it's like a chastity belt for your daughter

>>388735146
Soon

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4WdHwukAt4

>>388735893
>tfw refunded ark survival evolved to buy this even though ark finally has good framerate

>get cucked by denuovo

guess ill just hold on to my money

sitting in my steam account

>>388733720
>>Hows it make
How does
contracted form
How(doe)s
Hows
you're talking with other retards in a vietnamese imageboard, you aint doing a job interview. you dont need formal language

What I don't understand is why exactly is always having to be online is a problem, shouldn't you always be online?

>>388733612
How can one man be that fucking oblivious? Everyone and their mothers know that online only games never fucking work out well.

>>388735824
>>>>facts are damage control
>>claiming how you feel about raw data is fact
>release dates are feelings
>consistently trying to obfuscate facts by claiming they're indistinguishable from opinions and feelings
OOOH SAY CAN YOU SEEEE

>>388735315
you understand that 80% of sales happen during the first month after release?

I love how people keep blaming this on Denuvo even though always online isn't a requirement for it

>>388735961
simbly eric

>>388735607
It should, but it'll happen. It'll also be designed again as bait for classicfags for the latest Iizuka approved 3D atrocity.

>>388735645
I agree, but I don't think Taxman is up to it.

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>>388735961

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>>388733452
Something isn't right. You can't be offline and shitposting on 4chan at the same time, you know.

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>>388735961

>>388735645
It won't have nearly the amount of polish Sonic Mania had, and faggots will have to pay patreon bucks to make it

>>388736034
D3 turned out pretty good

>>388736161
You mean the polish like always online DRM?

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>>388735961

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>>388735428

>>388736026
>Steam maintenance
Well poop guess I can't play a game that has no reason to be always online. Screw me right?

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>>388736026

>>388736147
hmmm what if Zelda WAS a girl

>>388736161
You think Mania's polish had anything to do with Sega's money or support? Get real. This was pure, unfiltered autism on a poverty budget.

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>>388735428
>falseflag
Care to explain why else Steam may have rejected my refund?

>>388736057
I will 100% contest this for games such as anno and especially for absolution which sits at 3 mill and I know for a fact did not make 2.4 mill steam users in its first month

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>>388735961

>>388734470
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110727/16233815292/another-day-another-study-that-says-pirates-are-best-customers-this-time-hadopi.shtml

>>388734684
>Old game was sold more times compared to the new one

Shocker

>>388735961
>>388736071
>>388736128
>>388736152
>>388736224
samefagging hard

>>388734806
What makes you think he has that kind of power?

>>388736415
Found the PCbro.

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>yfw it's only the consolekiddies who pay to even be online that complain about this

>>388736415
mad pcbro

>>388736161
If there's one thing I have observed in the two week delay it is the fact that this game is full of glitches, and it lacks proper controller support in the PC version. So I would hardly call it polished.

>>388736415
pcbro pissd?

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>>388733452
Like I get why they think they need DRM, but werent the pre-order numbers enough to make them realize what a dumb idea this is?
Why do these suits still not understand this? Are they that disconnected from reality? Is it the corporate cocksuckers?
I just dont understand

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>>388735961

>>388736462
But I can play Mania offline just fine.

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>>388736289
What the fuck are they doing?

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>>388733895
THE GOYIM ALWAYS FALL FOR IT

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I just wanted a good game with mod support, why do publishers have to ruin it with absolute jewry

>>388736415
seething pcbro

>constant screen tearing
>realize it's because my monitor isn't 60ghz or 120ghz
>turn vsync off
>constant screen tearing
>change all other settings in options menu that could cause it
>constant screen tearing
>realize the options are a lie and the game is either still locked to 60 or simply has a lot of screen tearing

>>388736537
It's a common problem with centralized desicion making.

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>>388736235
>someone who doesn't know how refunding works posted on the steam forums
I don't understand, are you using the steam forums as an appeal to authority here?

as if making a post on the steam forum magically imbues your opinion with some sort of indisputable quality?

>>388736537
>Like I get why they think they need DRM

i dont
its a fucking 10 buck romhack

>>388733452
Can somebody please do an edit of this for Sonic Mania
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDphUib5iG4

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>>388734684
>games on the left
>been out for many years
>base price lowered because of this
>multiple steam sales
>lots of humble bundle appearances

>games on the right
>mostly quite new
>not really been in many sales yet
>base price is higher due to being kind of new

Oh right, but it's all because of the DRM lmao

I bet 90%+ of the people who bought those games don't know or care that it has DRM

>>388736341
>>388735192

>>388734470
fun thing, denuvo actually piss of customers, not pirates who still can play thoursand of other games waiting for the 2 days for the usual 'denuvo btfo"

>>388733895
PC FAGS GOT FUCKED

Pretty sure Steam requires the same thing anyway.

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>>388735192
It's almost like the cheaper game is still cheap or even cheaper

>>388736778
explain us the refudning rule then smartass instead of acting smug

>>388736537
Well I'm glad I didn't preorder. They'll lose more from this shit than they would've from piracy

someone post the sonic mania wojak ploz

>>388733714
Are you running on a HDD or SSD? Denuvo occasionally does a thousand legitimacy checks which would tax a HDD pretty heavily, but a SSD should deal with it smoothly.

>>388736748
force it through your gfx card control panel

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>>388735192
>not only it corrects the gap time
>it reinforces the argument because older games sell even more years later

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>>388733895

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>>388735961
Bravo.

Meanwhile on console, game was sold and received pretty well across all consoles, everyone already beat the game to its fullest and had a good time, literally no complaints about functionality or DRM.

Stay salty, PCfags :^)

>>388734806
Why do you think he has that kind of power?

>>388737109
But if the game supports uncapped framerate I shouldn't even be getting screen tearing....

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>>388736161
>Mania
>polish

>>388734782
no silly, it means he pirates single player games and only buys multiplayer

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>PC will be the ultimate platform

Fucking kekd

These numbers are pathetic.

>>388737186
mfw as a piratefag I will never have these problems

>>388737274
Those numbers are deceptive. Everyone's playing offline.

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>>388735961
DELET THIS!

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>sega of EUROPE did this

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>>388737339
forgot pic

>>388737186
>literally no complaints about functionality
Besides the crashes, the broken leaderboard on PS4, the framedrops on Switch, all the basic bugs and so on. But it's okay when it happens to me.

>>388737365
But they can't

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>reee always online gotta be connected to the internet how awful
>They cried about on the internet
I don't know what kind of awful provider somebody must have to actually need to worry about the odds of an outage impacting their gaming time in any serious capacity.

>temp banned for 4chan for GET posting for posting a gif with a generic filename
Choke on my dick Janitor.

>>388737365
hehehehehe

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>>388737454

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>be sega
>piss off your customers by delaying game
>pay 100 thousand dollars for denuvo to piss off your customers even more
top shelf management there

>>388737339
You'll also have to play the game like 8 months after it's release like a pleb :^)

>>388734795
For $20 you'd have to sue them in small claims court. The judge would probably rule in your favor, because the company would never even bother showing up for such a small amount of money. But the filing fee, depending on where you live, is probably around $50. So you'd be out $30 and an entire afternoon of your time.

>>388734470
I don't know about you man, but I got other games to play while I wait for cracks. I just finished downloading pirated C&C 3, and I still haven't even finished Sniper Elite 4 & Dishonored 2.

>>388733452
>can play game without internet
>oh that's a big we must fix it

So if you're internet goes out you can't play? As someone who lives in Alaska this shit hurts so bad. There are days when my internet is so bad it won't even load 4chan. Feels bad. Is this really the best anti piracy they could think of?

>>388733612
>>388733452
>bug
jesus christ, reality has been distorted and warped so badly ever since CERN started their hadron collider shit a few years back that now reality has become satire
what a fucking joke

>>388737517
If i wanted to play sonic that bad id just bust out an emulator and play one. Never even played any of them before.

>>388737507
Well the PC customers at least.

But if you bought the game on Steam you have connection
And if you downloaded it you had connection at some point
And if you launch it once with connection it validates and leaves itself open for offline play for like 3 months or so without calling home

Unless you're an eskimo and have some serious mental gymnastics this doesn't or couldn't affect you in any way

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Why is this even an issue?

Are people still on fucking dial-up or what?

>>388737517
it usually takes a week to crack denuvo tho, depends on how much chinese hackers are pissed at sega

Denuvo wouldnt fucking exist if you pc cunts actually bought your games.

>>388737131
you're retarded if you think any of the games on the right will ever sell even half as much as the ones on the left

>>388737735
Stop acting as if you wouldn't pirate a consolegame if it was as easy as it is on pc. Fucking faggots.

>>388737695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfM7T-XHowM&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzCN0wZr_P4&t

Looks like I'll be pirating this :^)

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>>388736778
Care to argue with this?

>>388737723
>why is being raped in the ass an issue, are peoples still homophobic or something?

>>388737723
It's not a matter of ability to play online, it's a matter of requiring online. For a single player game there's no need for it; all it does is limit how you can play the game if you bought it. Not something you should be rewarding the people who bought the game with.

>>388737723
DSL :(

>>388737723

Pretty much, in the US

>>388736026
all the time i spend offline usually involves resetting the modem to figure out why im not online then ten minutes later yelling at my roommate to pay the damn internet bill

>>388737735
And pirates wouldn't be justified if companies didn't shit on consumers and consumers alone.

>>388737752
I pirated the tomb raider sequel and never even touched it. No desire whatsoever. IDK what it is but it's like a 6th sense. No desire whatsoever to play a DRM game even when DRM is stripped away.

>>388736996
all refunds are decided upon by a person, it's why even if you are within the guidelines it takes time, as well as why even if you fall outside the guidelines you will get a refund if your appeal is legit.

just type in the exact complaint you have, hell, just copy paste mine, or make some edits if you're afraid they'll reject pasta:
>There was no mention of any 3rd party DRM anywhere on the store page, OR of an always-online requirement, yet both of these things are present in the final product. I would never have made this purchase knowing that were the case. I was deceived into my purchase, and would please like to be refunded and have the game removed from my library.
and, like me, you can get your money back.

if you're afraid (or if you played their "apology" game) for over 2 hours, just include that information:
>During the course of the preorder, SEGA offered a game as an apology for delays. Due to posts in the discussion forum, I'm concerned that time spent playing that game might count towards the total playtime of the game I'm trying to refund since they are played through the same launcher. I had understood to be a completely distinct game, and again would never have accepted otherwise. I believe these actions to be in bad faith, and they only serve to convince me further to ask for a refund of Sonic Mania

also SEGA can see your refund reasons, although they are not the ones who judge your ticket (that's all dealt with internally by valve)

>>388736235
Kek, Sega are geniuses when it comes to fucking their fans.

>>388734684
lol there's a game called anus

>>388737735
i guess you're too much of an underaged faggot to remember how shit worked on older consoles

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I don't even like Sonic but I'll be torrenting and seeding this for the next year to spite Sega's anti-consumer kikery

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>>388737735
>Just get fucked in the ass like the rest of us you p-pc-cucks!

>>388737695
retard

>>388737847
>buy hacked ps3/3ds/vita
>get an external hdd/micro sd
>put games in it
>plug it in
>play

You don't even need to install anything. Hell, it's easier on consoles.

>>388737339

No, instead you're the only ones who still haven't played the game at all yet.

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>>388733895
RAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH

>>388734020
>gigamemes
I love it when reddit tries to fit in.

>>388737867
did you not see the dozen posts explaining to you why this doesn't apply here?
are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>388736261
Massive influx of SFM and other forms of porn

>>388733714
I haven't seen slowdown in sonic since chaos on the master system, thats some piss poor RAM smashing going on there...

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>>388733452
Works for me :^)

>>388738216
>easier on consoles

Not really, I don't have to do any modification to my pc hw or sw to play pirated games.

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>>388738045

>>388738216
>buy
stropped reading there

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>>388738217
The piratefag is the most patient of all. He sits by idly waiting for his free game. Watching the chaos unfold around him. Knowing in the end, he is the victor.

>>388738362
>offline mode
>internet clearly on in the corner
Retard

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>>388735961

>>388738362
>clearly connected to wifi
art thou retard?

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>That feel when regardless of Denuvo, it'll eventually get cracked and pirates will somehow make a offline cracked version of it people will download more of simply because offline compared to Sega's online Denuvo ridden version
>When Denuvo has been the fault of making some games slow some times

They kinda fucked up. Aw well, they still got the console audience.

>>388738140

Console players aren't getting fucked in the ass though. There's no denuvo on console.

>>388735961
Nice

>>388737732
delusional

>>388738313
Show me on the refund policy where it states it doesn't apply. Oh wait, you can't. Fuck off.

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>>388737976
and you're right, nu-lara isn't worth playing at all
its been casualized and butchered. just look at this picture and tell me a game like this is worth anything.

>>388733720
"How does it make you feel?" is a common expression

>>388738428
This, piratefagging is almost Christ-like

>>388738456
That's sega of europe for you.

>>388737723
What if my internet goes down?
What if the company servers go down?
What if I'm on a trip?
What if I wanna use my bandwidth for something else?
What if I live in a place with shitty internet in general?

>>388735961
I dont know to what are we supposed to laugh at.

>>388738598
Why the fuck was this Sega of Yurops call?
Am I retarded and thats were the hq is?

>>388738523
lol who cares

>>388736748
Could be worse.
>buy game
>go to video options
>turn on fullscreen
>SonicMania.exe has stopped working.
>turn off VSync
>SonicMania.exe has stopped working.
>change window size
>SonicMania.exe has stopped working.
>change the filter
>SonicMania.exe has stopped working.
>refund

Apparently nobody else is having this problem but soon as I touched any of the video options the screen would go black and then it crashed. Maybe it's a multi-monitor thing or something I dunno.

>>388738440
>>388738453
he's playing on a normiebook obviously he's retarded

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>>388733452
Wait, they actually put Denuvo on something as morally outdated as Sonic Mania? Just... wow.

How far away are we from a crack?
I want this shitstorm to kick into next gear.

>>388738639
We have a system for that, It's called the Xbox 360.

>>388737853
works for me after the update.

>>388737723
>t. Don Mattrick

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>>388738440
:^)

>>388734331
It needs a crack first though. I remember Baldman saying he was gonna be less active so who knows how long it will take.

>>388738738
If it makes you feel better i am having the same problem. No solution though.

Maybe if pc players weren't just fucking autistic loser theives there wouldn't be a need for Denuvo. Glad you guys are getting fucked again. I beat tired last night on my ps4:)

>>388738512
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
kill yourself

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Do you all play on laptops outside your home or do you play at work or something?

>>388734470
>still pushing this meme
die you fucking cancer

>>388738819
Now close it, relaunch steam, and see if it runs :)

>>388738843
That does make me feel better. But yeah I just refunded it, might give it another shot when it goes on sale.

>>388737695
Two things
One, being able to download something doesn't mean you're constantly in the vicinity of a connection.
Two, in the case of mobile data people may not want a constant drain on that.

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>>388733452

>Every other board doesn't care about piracy because it's basically free marketing

>/v/ is the only board that is defending DRM and anti-piracy measures

I don't care if you are shitposting defending denuvo for (you)s. Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>>388738881
Doesn't matter if I want play it on a toaster while crouching on a porta-potty in the middle of nowhere. I shouldn't have to be online to play a single player game.

>>388738762

Realistically, three, four months from now.

>>388737201
I dunno, same thing happened to me with Valkyria Chronicles

>>388738865
Very impressive anon, you made all our pussies wet you chad.

>>388738785
>works fine on my machine

>>388733452
>>388733612

>>388738639
Then don't play on a PC you faggot maggot

>>388734684
Pathetic Virgin Consolecucks BTFO

>>388735961
kek

>>388738819
Please upload the updated game files. If you want.....

>>388738762
Maybe a week? Two tops?

Everyone is mad so the scene groups are racing for it.

>>388738991
denuvo shills have been here for a while, I keep pointing out the FACT that no software is uncrackable but they keep on trying.

>>388738938
Yeah thats probably what I'm going to do as well. It's unplayable for me.

>>388734990
>low sales on these games has nothing to do with denuvo
Shut the fuck up NIGGER

>>388735961
Nice portability lol

>>388738991
>/v/ is the only board that is defending DRM and anti-piracy measures
/v/ has actual paid shills for companies trying to falseflag and viral.

>>388739001
>I shouldn't have to do thing
>But it is literally 0 effort and you will automatically be doing the thing
>I STILL SHOULDN'T!!

>paying money for games you can pirate

>>388738462
>Console players aren't getting fucked in the ass though
Except for the fact that consoles ARE DRM. They make Origin look like GOG.

>>388733452
That's a shoop from the Why Is Denuvo Bad page but with Sonic Mania instead of Batman Arkham Knight. Note that the Sonic Mania font isn't fuzzy but the rest is.

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Post yfw you're a happy console customer and you come to these threads just to laugh at PC fags.

>>388739001
>I shouldn't have to be online to play a single player game that looks and feels fan-made at best

ftfy we're not even talking about a 3D Sonic game here. If it were that, I'd at least understand.

>>388738871
Not seeing anything about the refund policy in your post.

>>388739028
Why not?
I can perfectly play singleplayer games unless they require to be online for some fucking reason.

>>388739142
You completely missed the part about it being a single player game that needs to be played with an Internet connection. If there is no Internet available where you are you literally cannot play the single player game you paid money for.

>>388733895
They just want to give Jim Sterling a video topic.

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>gets cracked in a few days
>still sells well on consoles
>goes on sale for $5 at the end of the year

this sure is much ado about nothing

>>388739182
t. underage

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>>388739182
>tfw console buyer and PC pirate

>>388738639
>What if I wanna use my bandwidth for something else?
>What if I live in a place with shitty internet in general?

>Live in the USA
>Spend the day making a plan for the evening's bandwidth usage
>Get shot
>Call the cops
>Get tazed
>Call an ambulance
>$400,000

Thank fuck I don't live in that shithole

>>388739028
Why would he waste 300 shekels on a notPC underpowered pay-for-online, goy, meme paperweight?

>>388736026
Go away xdrone

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>>388739182
I don't blame you. It's not like you have any games to play.

>>388734684
>comparing the sales of Hitman "you can have it for $2" Absolution to those of Hitman 2016
I don't even care about this argument, but there's no need for false equivalences.

>>388739274
But I'm saying "no internet available" is literally impossible these days unless you live in a really shitty country. My internet drops maybe once a year and then I just use my phone's internet. It's not hard.

>>388739165
Question about consoles. Say you buy a game digitally and then sony or whatever goes out of business, would your games be gone? I read somewhere this is what would happen if steam went out of business which is why people recommend GOG.

>>388739182
>Happy console customer
>Wastes time on a chink image board instead of playing the game you spent money on

ok

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>dev has all of SEGA's published games
>played Tilt Brush more than any of them
kek

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>>388739182
>he bought the game

>>388738771
kek

>>388739348
O B S E S S E D
B
S
E
S
S
E
D

>>388735192
BTFO
T
F
O

How will Denuvo Shills/Console Virgins EVER RECOVER???

>>388739410
Yeah okay man, tell me more about your fairytale internet paradise home country.

>>388739427
They'd still be playable but you wouldn't be able to redownload.

>>388739404
It also compares Far Cry add-on to a complete game that is Primal.

>>388735035
No, it's not

>>388739410
>is literally impossible these days
Still wrong. Still ignoring the point. Explain why it SHOULD be there instead of trying to explain why it doesn't affect you. Explain why the game needs to be online only. Unless you can do that then there is literally no reason for it to be there and all you're doing is defending anti-consumer business practices.

>>388739348
I'm not american but try living in an apartment somewhere other than the center of a city, you only have one option for internet because fuck you.

Easy fix to this

STOP FUCKING PREORDERING GAMES
thats literally all you had to do to avoid this problem

>>388739559
Also, that's not even the fucking point. The point is no faggot company should have the right to arbitrarily deny you access to the merchandise you purchased and own

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>>388738926
Closed steam, restarted computer, started in offline mode, still able to play offline.

:V

>>388735192
BTFO
T
F
O

>>388739478
would you want to play the games you've developed in your free time, wich you have to forcibly play every fucking day?

>>388739716
I don't believe you.

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>>388739182

I've been playing more and more on console lately, even with a pretty good gaming PC. It's just more convenient these days.

Hell, I've only got an Xbone and Switch right now, I'm afraid if I actually get a PS4 I'll stop playing PC completely.

>>388739716
>CIA Data Collection Tower
uuhh mr edgy here :^)

>>388736748
The game is locked to 60fps

Look, guys, if you wanna get it on the go, just get it for your switch it's that simple...

>>388739704
I still don't get why people preorder DIGITAL games. There's still some clear advantages to preordering physical, but what the fuck is the point of digital? There is literally 0 difference between preordering 6 months before launch and buying the game day 1 on Steam.

>>388737546
That's why its called class action.

>>388739716
fucking CIA nigger

>>388739897
>get a console for one game
No thank you. I'm not a fan of that idea.

>>388735192
>cheaper games sell more

STOP THE PRESSES

>>388738462
Your whole hardware is Denuvo

>>388739714
But you don't have to buy it. There's no point crying about a thing that is not a problem for most people. Just don't buy the game if it's a dealbreaker for you.

>>388735264
The fuck do you have running in the background? I have 4 GB of ram and I have yet to find a slowdown

>>388739927
In this specific case, I guess it was to tell Sega that this type of content was desired more than anything.

>>388739994
>this denial

>>388739410
you gotta be literally retarded to as a consumer willingly take giant corporation cock the way you are now

>>388739976
it has more than one game on it, doofus :)

>>388739927
>consumers are retards
There's nothing more to understand

>>388739976
>learn a language for one game
>go out for one movie
>buy food for one day

>>388739624
It needs to be online only so impatient pirates will buy it rather than wait for a crack which might take a while.

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>>388739182
>mfw I do console and PC
>mfw it's just fun to watch people get mad

>>388740138
>buying food every day instead of buying for the whole month
Why?

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>SEGA wants to bring more of its games to PC
>They test the waters with Sonic Mania
>obviously put in Denuvo to stop piracy to protect their game
>PC gamers: REEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK YOU SEGA
>they spam negative review bomb the game and spam refunds

Welp, say goodbye to Yakuza ever being on PC or Persona 5...

>>388740057
I won't, I'll take it for free and supply it to other would-be buyers so I don't contribute to business practices that fuck the consumer.

>>388739927
I preordered literally 2 minutes before it came out to get the 10% discount.

And then refunded 15 minutes later because it kept crashing.

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Even the Sonic Mania devs are sick of this shit.

>>388733612
>bug

lol

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>>388740208
More people are refunding the game than feeling compelled to buy it.

INTO THE TRASH IT GOES

>>388740226
I want to fuck that fox

>>388739780
there's no way he worked on all of these, he clearly got all of them for free for working for sega. there's some good shit in there, sonic all stars racing transformed, crazy taxi, jet set radio, nights, etc but the only things launched on this account was VR applications.

>>388740078
You could tell them that just fine by buying the game on day 1. Sales are sales.

So lets be clear here
Sonic Adventure 2
Crazy Taxi
Bayonetta
Valkirya Chronicles
And Sonic Generations

None of those games have DRM, but sonic mania does?
What the fuck is Sega thinking?

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>delay the game 2 weeks under the pretext of "optimization" when in reality it was just adding Denuvo
>Sega mysteriously "overlooked" mentioning Denuvo on the game's store page until -after- the game had released, and people had bought, played, and locked themselves out of refunds
>instead of fixes, Denuvo adds game-breaking "features"
>controllers randomly don't work on launch because Denuvo blocks them
>can't play online at all thanks to Denuvo
>game randomly doesn't run even with an internet connection because Denuvo doesn't validate it
>Game-breaking bugs where you have either to let the game timeout, or restart and lose your checkpoint can't be fixed by the community because of how frustrating it is to get around Denuvo.

All of this bullshit, and the game was cracked less than 5 hours after release. What's the point in wasting money on licensing DRM software that gets bypassed immediately, and all it does is fuck the paying customer over?

But the very best part of all of this is that -the pirated version is the definitive way to play the game-, because it doesn't include all the game-breaking bugs Denuvo adds to the retail version.

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>Thought this image would become obsolete

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>>388733895
>People who pre-ordered
Found the problem

>>388736289
Steam has refused my refund request twice now, citing the free copy of Sonic 1 as a reason. This was clearly planned on their end and extremely sleazy. They knew people would want a refund for this shit.

>>388740138
You need food to survive
The others are hobbies

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>>388739182
Feels good

>>388740239
As if I'd ever buy another Sega game after this.