Battlefield 1

>>388732174
It doesn't seem 100% historically accurate
that and its just reskined battlefield

hardly any maps, the rest of them are on dlc


theres no sense of community, nobody says anything in the chat apart from gg, i've heard 1 person talk on mic in my squad, etc

innacurate weapons to the time period

Because it wasn't as revolutionary as people said it would be and I don't like fuckhuge maps in video games. Everybody complains about Call of Duty having arena-style maps and then proceeds to spend like eight minutes on a hill sniping people/driving for three minutes to an objective only to get immediately shot. I played the BF1 beta and that desert level made me want to puke.

It's not historically accurate, most of guns are automatic, lack of maps (gotta sell Premium to goyim), no German/Austrian campaigns, game is buggy as hell because lol Frostbite.

Operations mode is fun and best addition since Titan mode though and presentation is top notch, so it's not 100% shit like Hardline or 4.

It's nowhere near as fun as BC2 and it doesn't scratch my tacticool itch the way BF4 did.

Operations have no server browser so basically I have played the doc ops like 3 times since the first 2 weeks after the dlc dropped making buying the dlc

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>>388732174

EA
DICE
Origin
automatic weapons everywhere
run & gun / spray and pray gameplay
same shit as others BFs just with a WW1 paintjob on it

>>388732174
I didn't buy it.

But I felt like I got my fill from the beta. Had no desire to play more after those 10 or so hours.

>>388732865
>doesn't scratch my tacticool itch

Get the new CoD, you're in for a treat

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>>388732174
I won at least 4 operation matches in the past few days, shouldn't I have the first summer mission dog tag by now?

>>388732174
Like, why did it need to be WW1 if they didn't want to incorporate ANYTHING about WW1? I mean FFS Battlefield would be a pretty good game for a war with mostly bolt action weapons considering how most of the community just wants to use a sniper rifle and revolver anyways and the maps are stupidly large enough to support that.

>>388732361

You would rather have two opposing teams sat inside of a trench shelling each other for months on end?

I think all the automatic weapons are goofy, but it adds to the gameplay.

>>388733212
They want the game to look different, but they want it to be played similarly to every other BF game.

>>388733212

Scouts are the biggest cancer in this game. Its beyond easy to pick up the class and become XXxMLGproChrisKyleDarksniperXXx

>>388732174
Because it's broken as fuck. Every match is played in 1 of 3 ways.
Metro style chokepoint battles with grenade spam
Both teams just sniping since most maps are just flat and playing any other way will get you sniped
Tanks controlling the entire map with no viable way to stop them since the assault can run out of rockets and barely scratch them.

They tried putting BF3/4 gameplay in a world where it isn't compatible and everything feels like a group of modders attempted to make a WW1 game based on Battlefield 4.

>>388733151
Which one, iw or ww2? Last one I played was bo3 and it was fine until I discovered titanfall 2 and siege.
Might look into the next treyarch cod, but don't really have my hopes up.

>>388732174
>Spawn
>Spend 5 minutes walking toward objective
>Get sniped by someone I never saw 12 miles away
>Repeat

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>>388732174
Operations mode should have been the main focus of the game, however it's barely being worked on.

It looked like the game would return to a more squad-focused, slower-phased game like BF2, however it's turning more and more into a clusterfuck for ADD teens.

Plus they keep releasing new maps as DLC

I had fun for ~10-15 hours, however it's just too much like WW1 BF4 to keep me playing.

>>388733421
>>388733409
That's why devs should never allow players to use sniper rifles.

>>388733412

Mad cuz bad

Shit gunplay. No amount of maps, content, etc can withstand my hatred of seeing my bullets shoot a good 20 degrees off my ironsights just because of hardcore spread and suppression.

If I wanted to play a slot machine, I would.

Frontlines is my new favorite gametype, but holy shit is it fucking infuriating to fight all the way into their base and their last telegraph only to get pushed back through 5-7 capture points and both telegraphs to lose the game.

>>388732174
>why don't you like BF1?
feels like modern combat in an era that definitely wasn't modern combat

>>388732174
Because it's a modern shooter trying to sell itself as a WWI shooter.

>>388732174
It plays more like Battlefront than Battlefield

>>388733421
this is like the ultimate pleb detector
not knowing how to spawn on objectives
not knowing how to spawn on vehicles
not knowing how to spawn squad members
joining in the action in bf1 only takes few seconds, movement is extremely fast and maps are tiny and linear
literally no excuse

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>>388732174
>WWI game
>Everyone has easy access to portable automatic weapons
Why wasn't it just a WWII game?

TINY GUN!!!

>>388733805
That wasn't even the case in WWII.

>>388732174
slap in the face for every long time battlefield fan, i played every battlefield game to death from refraction engine era to modern frostbite titles.
BFBC2 was fun but not an actual BF game, 3 was a good modern take on the franchise.
4 had an abmyssal release that made me drop the series until i picked it up again in january and in its current state its the best battlefield game in the series and still to this day one if the best FPS games on the market.
weapons feel good and satisfying to use and theres a huge amount of them for people who like to mix things up.

Enter BF1, combine all classes in the game and you have less weapons then a single class in BF4 and worse of all they all feel shit to use and turned the game into hipfire field, TTK became absurdly long with even the fastest killing of BF1 having double the TTK over BF4, weapons are just generally inaccurate with streamlined recoil, snipers are the strongest they have ever been with no scope sway and fastest bullet speed in the series in a game where everything else feels weak and unreliable.
vehicles became a powerhouse with no real counter if you are even half decent.

i could honestly go on for ages and list everything wrong with the game but numbers speak for themself

http://bf1stats.com
http://bf4stats.com
PC player count is the only thing relevant here because lol fps on console.
BF4 is a 2014
BF1 is 2016

hill niggers, no class interactions. no feeling of a frontline, holding or pushing. its just CoD on a bigger map.

>>388733858

WW3 then i dont care

>>388733858
It's at least easier to suspend my disbelief than a setting where 99.8% of combatants were using bolt action or worse

>>388733859
how do those sites get their numbers?

>>388733784
This. It was so damn dull

>literally everyone has automatic weapons
>when in reality most of the world was still scrambling to have a semi-auto service weapon in line come ww2

It's retarded and they only picked the ww1 setting for ""originality"" points because there weren't any normie games set in that era yet
Could have been cool, but they went ahead and took a big fucking dump instead

Literal definition of failing to deliver to expectations

>>388733938
>no feeling of a frontline, holding or pushing.
God damn, this. Dudes will run passed an objective or sit right outside of it because they want to boost kills. They really need to drastically lower or outright remove points for kills on non-deathmatch game modes to prevent these faggots from ruining the game to try and boost their classes. It would also make snipers considerably less attractive if they're not playing the objective.

>>388732174
It's pathetic how hard the game forces matches to appear balanced while they are really not. They changed the CQ ticket system, which has worked well since the very first fucking entry. Then they added the bullshit behemoths to give the losing shitters consolation kills without effort.

>>388733801
This

>>388733859
You seem like a man of taste.
How is the community on 3? Did they all jump ship to 4?
I also avoided 4 from its shit release, and never picked it up. Wondering if i should just stick with old 3 or pony up for 4

>>388732174
Too many ways to die instantly to something you had no way to avoid or had no counter for

>>388732174
because we wuz krauts n shiet

>>388732174
It's a reskinned Battlefront and thats why it's shit.

It's not Battlefield

>>388732174
because even though I have a pretty good CPU it makes no difference whether I run it on low or ultra, they both give me 90-100 fps and never higher, it annoys me

>inb4 get a new CPU
I am

>>388734502
And Battlefront 2 is gonna be a reskinned Battlefield 1

Lowering tank health against assault gadgets, lower accuracy over distance for scout rifles to reflect closer to WW1 stats, lower rate in which explosives are gained from ammo boxes, and reduce assault's explosive on human targets would fix this game.

>>388732174
>charge $120 for the game + premium
>release 1 DLC
>create a premium edition for 60 bucks to fuck over loyal customers

>>388732174
Shitty setting. Battlefield 4 has shitloads of guns, fun gadgets, lots of attachments for each gun, lots of vehicles, better maps, faster gameplay, better gunplay and pretty much better everything.

>>388734390
not that guy, but 4 is pretty much a straight improvement over 3

>>388732174
The campaign was fucking abysmal and the game is so historically inaccurate it hurts. And I'm not talking about the percentage of black people. Even the uniforms themselves look weird. It's like Dice saw World War I uniforms and decided that they need to be as cool as it's possible. Also I'm triggered by the fact that DLC named "In the name of the Tsar" features a formation (Women's Batallion of Death) that was created by people who wanted to abolish the Tsar.

>>388734390
Should've picked all the DLC for free a while back

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>>388733279
>Match starts with both teams having trenchworks facing each other with farmland/small villages in between
>Use Frostbyte to implement terrain deformation
>Artillery and tanks can blow craters into the ground or destroy trenches
>By the end of the match the map actually looks like a WW1 moonscape complete with a barren no mans land between two badly damaged trenchworks

Sounds great to me

>>388732174
It's boring and dull. Played a little bit of it since it comes with the $3 origin subscription, but I wouldn't really play it even if it was free. There are also players banned by fairfight in literally every match, if that's any indication on how rampant cheating in origin games is.

>>388733409
Exactly, so why didn't they jump on like the one setting where they could balance around the cancer everyone plays anyways?

>>388734649

Its not though. Its just a slightly beefier reskinned version of EAFRONT 1. And it is incredibly dissappointing. I thought we were going to get all the great things that were missing on the first one.

Personally I found BF1 amazing and beautiful and the sounds were incredible. Great gameply but the community sucks, and nowadays it's basically dead. I only liked playing operations.

>>388733409
I would say Assault is much worse. It has 2 highest TTK guns in the game and a drum-magazine AR. Plus you can destroy vehicles easily and spam explosives.

It's just boring.

>>388735084
>2 highest TTK guns
How is that a good thing?

>>388733859
Pretty much this.

>>388734390
BF3 is nothing but noshar canals TDM servers nowadays and even those are few
BF4 still has a very healthy PC community and i have no issues finding servers for classic conquest/metro or lockers meatgrinder conquest/TDM
this is EU only servers since thats all my server browser is set to look for so i cant vouch for NA or other places.
id very much recommend BF4 nowdays since dice LA pulled some black magic out their asses and legitimately fixed the game and netcode is amazing, i was legitimately amazed it could even be fixed since i dropped it 2 weeks after launch.

>>388734868
>everysingle round is rng from artillary fire
>one them hits the horses behind you
>spend 5 minutes just hearing them wail and die a slow, painful death before the whistle blows
>your character gets shellshocked and have to wait for someone to put a bullet in your head to do anything else
yikes!

When you focus on promoting an agenda and your fetish you can't focus on making a good game, simple concept.

>>388734868
Exactly, people quickly forget Ace of Spades games

>>388733279
>Match starts with a whitsle blow
>Offense goes over the top
>Defence mans their trenches/in depth defences
>Game would be balanced for boltguns on every man on each side
>SMGs limited to 5 per team
>No scopes
>MGs are limited to static only but you can redeploy them
>Implement sandbags that players can place

Just set the game during the attacks and not during the downtime. You don't see people bashing modern war games by saying "Lmao the whole game will be sleeping, wanking and getting shot by mortars once a week"

>>388732174
Same issues as Battlefront. They prioritized eye candy over engaging gameplay that offers long term motivation. Once all the DLCs have been shat out they announce the next entry a few months after.

>>388734868
>Runners gain information from their squad's spotting and deliver information to the Commander
>Medics not for revival but faster respawn rate with no ticket loss
>Those awkward silences where nothing is happening between shelling, but you're still dodgy of snipers

>>388735143
Never said it was. Tell that to the retarded devs.

Bad gunplay balance.

In previous battlefield games, even thought weapons from different classes had their strength and weaknesses, there difference weren't that you couldn't outskill an opponent who had a weapon advantage in a given situation. In Battlefield 1, most firefight outcomes seem to be dictated solely by the preconditions of the fight : If you have an smg and you're fighting a guy with a self-loading rifle at close-range, you'll beat him, even if he is a much better player than you.

>>388735647
You listed it with other things that you clearly think favor assaults. How is taking longer to kill an attribute that makes somebody cancer? Seems they would be pretty easy to kill then.

>>388732174
It got boring pretty fast, I don't know, the obvious lack of weaponry was a bummer.

the debate is over

everyone who bought this game should be sterilized

>>388732174
>install trial
>see that they are advertising Youtubers in the main menu
>uninstall

Battlefield games are just reskins of eachother, that's why they're all bad at this point.

BF1 plays the same as BF4 which plays the same as Battlefront. What's the point?

>>388735456
I like your style.

>>388735917
retard, BF4 plays nothing like BF1.

>>388735963
>>388735963
It's some careful considerations I had with the game after playing it for a while. People bash WW1 for being a boring war, but the trench stalemate takes over the narrative.

It was an interesting attack and movement happened, people just don't seem to care about that though.

>>388735084

I assume you are referring to the Automatico and the Hellriegal? The automatico isnt an issue on console. I use it occasionally, but generally I almost exclusively play support with the BAR storm or Huot as my primary. Support are getting a very high firerate LMG in the MG14 parabellum for the ITNOTT dlc.

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I do like it though, at least compared to other currently popular FPS games like Overwatch and PUBG.

>>388733859
>http://bf4stats.com
but PS4 has more BF4 than PC

fuck you,asshole

and combine ALL consoles and well, fuck you again for thinking PC player count matters more

Is anyone here playing the BF2/2142 revive?

Maps are waaaay too big. Too much running around without action, thats why cod is better

its marxist propaganda.

Absolutely disgusting.

>>388734827
>>388734851
>>388735171

Well, looks like i should hit up 4. The launch and early play was so bad i had been ignoring it for this long and have been trying to get my rocks off in other games. I miss it, if 3 is dead then 4 may have to happen.

>>388733153
September 11. It's given out

Is the Russia DLC out yet? Only reason for me to get back into this shit game would be for nugget memes.

>>388735692

This is the Levelfap, "I should always be able to win no matter what because I am better" arguement.

>>388736330
It will be out in late September if I remember correctly.

>>388736371
A weapon should have qualities that make it better situationally but it shouldn't be a guarantee.

>>388736371
and this is exactly why everyone consider battlefield 1 a more casual battlefield game.

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>>388736178
>fps on console
>relevant ever
away with you, underaged.

>>388735716
I think he meant low TTK. He's probably referring to Automatico Trench/Storm and Model-10 A Hunter.

>>388736540

In a close quarters situation you arent likely going to be able to outgun someone with a shotgun if youre using a SLR. Alternatively, you would be fucked if you engaged the same person at medium or long range with a shotgun.

>>388736728
I know, I just wanted to see how long it would take him to catch on.

>>388736703
well, it has MORE players than PC

it will happen with PUBG too, the numbers will all be on consoles =)

>>388736703
It matters to the investors, developers, and publishers. You can kick and scream about how much mouse aim is better but at the end of the day it's consoles that make the most money and that will always make them more relevant than PC.

>>388736703

I always invision the PC mustard racers as the video game equivalent of manlets who drive massive lifted trucks with huge tires.

The way they use the setting is sucks
The gameplay mainly based from Battlefront rather than Battlefield
Even less cooperation in MP
Just lack of contents in general

I rather play 4

>>388736703
It actually takes skill to be able to aim with a thumbstick.

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>>388736703
>the guy recording died before these chucklefucks

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>>388736886
>I prefer to cuck myself because I am tfwtoodumbforpc.jpg
>m-manlet!

>>388734868
>>388735456
>>388735173
>>388735537
What if
>every round starts with one player becoming the commander for a minute
>commander chooses where the artillery goes and in what pattern
>in the meantime all the other players are flying around in freecam looking at their front lines
>each side is full of ai soldiers
>30 seconds before match start artillery starts falling
>10 seconds before round starts players choose a character that wasn't hit by artillery to play as
>any leftover characters get titanfall tier ai and die from a single bullet
Seems like it would be a good compromise for the "war is hell" and "I don't want to die to rng" crowds.

>>388737013
Takes a lot of skill to play basketball missing both your legs too but you'll never see a cripple make the Globetrotters, faggot.

>>388732174

I think I'm just tired of that type of shooter. I'd rather play Destiny right now.

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>>388736867
how is this relevant for you as the player?
im sure they are glad people like you exist as they are counting the cash
also check out these """"pros""""

>Limited choices of weapons/things that change gameplay
>Lots of players in a match
>Huge maps which cannot be won by one person or even one squad alone

All of which devolve the game into a glorified shooting gallery. Without the need for any real strategy or unique loadouts, the player feels like they have very little agency in games and so all the fun is expected to come from pointing and shooting, which bores me quickly.

>>388736113
Played the game both on PC and console, Automatico is pretty much the best SMG on PC. Hellriegel is only good on range with proper bursting but other guns can beat it. On console Hellreigel is effective due to aim assist and low recoil.

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>consolefags will defend this

>>388737115
>"I don't want to die to rng"
BF1 feels like that anyway right now

There's so many variables going on that whether or not you're dead doesn't feel skill based. RO2 however does and it's easier to die in that game

Go figure

WE

>>388737046
>i prefer to play dead games with BRs and russians on a platform that companies don't give a fuck about
>e-everyone else is a cucck but me!

>>388737228
>caring about pros or esports in general
this is a free (you) now go back to watching twitch, mommy's busy talking to the grown ups.

>BF1 being a BF4 reskin
stop this meme, changing the ticket bleed system to whatever abomination we have now already made a significant change in how both games are played during conquest matches, you know, the staple game mode of the franchise
very, very small maps catered to infantry players only with limited amount of ground vehicles, ttk is different, random deviation, sweet spot mechanic, faster movement speed, sliding, climbing and vaulting over walls and shit
i don't mind the niggers nor the automatics, but fuck.. stop changing shit for the sake of change
you're all making things worse

>>388737130
mad coz bad, just because you're too bad to play with a controller that doesn't mean nobody can play the game properly with a controller.

>>388732174
Battlefield gameplay has felt like ass ever since Battlefield 3. A combination of floaty, weird animations, low response servers (before BF4 '''fixed''' it) and the health/weapon damage systems allowing people to take half a magazine before dying makes the game just feel like a bag of fucking marshmallows.

The only good game modes are Operations, which is dead. I love joining empty servers. So the only fun game mode to play is Rush because everything else is a giant clusterfuck with no frontlines.

Just give us a DLC date already, DICE.

>>388737046

Triggered.

I prefer full servers and a community to actually play the game with.

>>388732174
I do like Battlefield 1, it's a beautiful game and the match can feel like a real battlefield at times albeit not a historically accurate one.

Sound, graphics, controls and gameplay are all best in the series

Yeah the revision stuff is lame but it's whatever to me in this multiplayer shooter

I have a BA in History guys, if I can put up with it so can you

>>388737370
>Complain that the guns in BF1 are floaty and inconsistent

>No dude you're just bad, get used to the mechanics

What if the mechanics are shit

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>>388737383
You so completely misread that post it's not even worth engaging you.

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>call of duty is soldier warfare
>battlefield is vehicle warfare
>start playing battlefield 1
>where are all the fucking vehicles?
Only one tank is active at a time on both teams which leaves you to run around and do soldier warfare.

And never thought I would say this but the loot crates are piss poor, they only show to give ugly skins for the support class weapons. Would be interested in some flashy sniper rifles but nah, enjoy your green lmg.

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>>388732174
Battlefield 1 just demonstrated why WW1 games aren't a thing. It had to be wildly inaccurate to be at all entertaining as a video game, but at that point you gotta ask yourself - why are they even placing this game in this time period?

It was just a selling point, basically a WW1 skin thrown over the same old formula that just would not work if the game stuck to any sense of historical accuracy.

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I found operations to be extremely entertaining but its so thrilling compared to the other modes that I don't really see any reason to go back now that I've been burnt out on the one mode keeping me playing

>>388737349
>i like to slurp on the companies cock rather than enjoy the game to its fullest
>if they are making money im happy xD
im amazed """people""" like you actually exist if you arent trolling

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>>388737320
Webms of console aiming always make me laugh. It's like watching somebody trying to control a crane with their ass.

>>388737228
>>388737320
>the absolute state of console FPS players

Battlefield used to right in that sweetspot between all those milsims and CoD which came later.
Now it doesn't.

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>>388732675
tell me more about this, OPERATIONS mode.. i used to love titan mode, u have peaked my interest

>>388737591
The loot crates change every so often.
BF1 is a terrible battlefield game, making a game where the emphasis is on combined arms set in the period where combined arms was possible but it wasn't even done yet is retarded.

It'd be better infantry only

>>388737637
>It had to be wildly inaccurate to be at all entertaining as a video game

I mean this is wrong. It has to be wildly inaccurate to appeal to normies yes but realistic wargames can be fun.

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>>388737689
>being this desperate for an argument
dude this is gold, have another (you) i wanna get the most of your posts before you go back to school next week

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>>388737694

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i am playing Battlefield 1 on Console cause i knew that snipers and automatic weapons would dominate on PC.
i am having a pretty good time, playing it for like a week every month.
love the variety of pistols and the shotgun feels pretty good.
and the focus on rifles is really fun too.
JUST like any other Battlefield game... it will be truly great once all the DLC is out!
biggest thing i dislike is that they add a bunch of "fake" weapons by giving every weapon 3 variations...
there really arent many guns in the game.

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>>388737694
its ok because developers make money while i make an absolute ass out of myself because controller takes skill
fuck the only platform that a player can make money from a tournament on tho

>>388737228
>>388736703
Siege is perhaps the one game where I feel a little dizzy when it's console gameplay. It just doesn't seem right.

>>388732174

It just wasn't as fun. Beautiful game, technically sound.

Bad Company 2 or 1493 were the last "great" BF games. They're all "good", and I've got my enjoyment out of them but the the simplicity of 1943 was amazing, and BF:BC2 squad mechanics were just fucking perfect.

>>388738126
Probably because it doesn't have any autoaim.

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>>388738208
>BF:BC2 squad mechanics were just fucking perfect

>>388738208
>1493
now i would like to see that (even though nothing happened during that year)

>>388737795
Operations mode are maps set during famous campaigns in the Great War. Typically they're two maps where one team plays the attacking team aiming to seize two conquest style objectives in order to push the enemy back Rush style.

The overall presentation is pretty cool as a narrator will explain who you are and why you are here. In the event the side that lost the battle IRL wins you get the narrator giving a guess at what could happen. Pretty fun and atmospheric when it comes to the next sector being open to attack with all your teams men screaming in the first charge.

>>388737637
>It had to be wildly inaccurate to be at all entertaining as a video game,

You can easily turn that around into ''It was wildly inaccurate and it turned out to be the same old boring shit that keeps getting regurgitated ad nauseam''

BF1 isn't a WW1 game, but an amalgamation of contemporary shooters with an antique wallpaper skin. And that's what makes it boring, and what makes DICE as a developer boring. The game might've been interesting if it was actually loyal to its time period.

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>>388732174
Its a good game but Titanfall 2 is better so i kept playing that instead.

>>388738025
They had to seperate the same gun so people won't use the stubby grip + HB meta like in BF3 & 4. Basically each gun in BF1 has it's own set of attachments.

>>388735456
Verdun

>>388737906
>no counter argument
>h-heh h-have a (You}...
lmao @ ur lyfe, keep "playing" the shitty version of the game while the devs rake in the money.
maybe your attitude will change once you become an adult and people will start fucking you in the ass with that attitude, or maybe your some deadbeat stuck at a deadend job already.

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>>388737468
>haha you're too retard for me to argue with you
Kid I used to be a PC only faggot when you weren't even born. I used to play Quake 3 arena and UT99 with max sesitivity and mods that sped up the games. Mouse is a precision tool and the amount of precision and how fast you can turn your camera and get an accurate shot is just ridiculous and unrealistic and it doesn't take any skill either, just sheer muscle memory that you get by playing the games for a couple hours.

We all know you can't get the same level of precision on thumbsticks and that's not a problem, I'm too old now to play as autistically as I used to play back in the 90s and most importantly, it isn't necessary anymore. You're not bunnyhopping across the map at lightning speed and gibbing literal pixels on the screen anymore, the games are much slower, specially Battlefield.

You can move really fast and have lots of mobility with proper practice with a controller. Not only that but a skilled player with a controller will hardly lose to a newbie which is not the case with a m/kb, any retard on PC can kill a skilled player because it's easy as fuck to aim and move with a mouse.

>>388738346

Not sure what you're memeing for here. It's a fact.

>>388738361

>1493
My bad 1943.

>>388732174
It's the same old battlefield shit, only this time with an offensive helping of historical revision.

>>388738487
didn't read lol

>>388738025
Honestly I don't get why they were scared of having less guns. Just allow the player to customize certain aspects of the weapon. They fell for the quantity over quality meme and now they look retarded by having three guns that are infact the same gun.

>>388738420
they literally did that to lengthen the unlocking process, you are delusional if you think otherwise.

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>>388737795
It's a campaign style multiplayer sort of like Rising Storm. One side attacks and tries to capture 2-3 objective points each zone with somewhere around 3-5 zones per map. The attacking side has 3 battalions, which are essentially attempts to win the round. If the attacking side fails horribly on the first and second assault, they get a player-controlled behemoth to help them a bit. This is usually a battleship or armored railcar.

If the attacking side wins on the first map they get to move on to the second map where it repeats and on at least one operation (The British vs. Ottoman one) there are three maps. The attackers never regain battalions so if they lost 2 of their 3 on the first map they still only have 1 going in to the last one.

This anon explains the narrative side of it as well: >>388738372

>>388738208
Don't say that. The BC games paved the way for 3 which were all dumbed down casualized shite.

>>388732174
Didn't like battlefrond, this is just that with WW1 guns.

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>>388738436
keep it coming, you'll figure it out eventually

>>388733524
just make snipers move between kills if you make there weapon the only option for long range combat they can sit in one place and be a trurd in a fps, in the other games you could at least reach out and plink them with other guns now you cant hit one uless you use a sniper too its the cold war ideal of gay shit

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>>388738487
TL;DR

>>388738431
Verdun but not a janky piece of shit made in Unity

Nothing wrong with Unity as an engine but Verdun is clunky, I wish it were better

>>388732174
I do like it though. It's my most played bf. I think it's the atmosphere but who fucking knows. Looking forward to the Russian maps

>>388732174
>we wuz
is completely legitimate criticism, though.

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>>388732174
I do like it, 2142 sequel when?

>>388734395
thats what i hated about mortors ucavs claymores and all the other scum from 4

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>hey sven
>yeah björn?
>you know that skip button when you die?
>yeah?
>what if we made it so you should hold the button down for 3 seconds in the next game?
>that sounds really retarded
>b-but it's progressive
>fine

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>>388736837
PC is literally murdering Consoles in their wake.

>>388738759
I don't even want to imagine how hard they'd fuck up a 2143. Probably with 50 lock-on and autoaim weapons.

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>>388738487
>Not only that but a skilled player with a controller will hardly lose to a newbie which is not the case with a m/kb, any retard on PC can kill a skilled player because it's easy as fuck to aim and move with a mouse.

There is no way you actually believe this

>>388735456
So literally just make Verdun.

Why would you expect this out of Battlefield? A series that has never been about realism and has turned war into a goofy, arcadey experience.

>>388732174
How come most posts complaining about /pol/ always fail to type it properly or miserably fail boardlinking?

Verdun is more fun

>>388738838
It's to make people think twice before spamming the skip key so that medics don't become entirely useless as a class.
It's still fucking retarded though and they should have just made it unavailable to skip until a certain time frame and have all necessary information directly available while waiting.

>>388738850
That chart doesn't show anything. All it proves is that everyone has a computer and now that Steam provides instant access to a huge catalog of games, more people are deciding to play one once in a while. Just look at how mobile has caught up is close to beating everyone on that.

>>388738868
yeah dude ea is so shit they would probably put loot boxes and perks in kek lol, god ea sucks

>>388739005
Fuck me for expecting a good game.

I suppose if they wanted to retain the revisionism and shitty twitch shooting they could get rid of the stupid "sweet spot" mechanic, improve netcode and hitreg and make the guns feel less like floaty shit toys and more like fucking guns.

That'd be a start

>>388739006

Who cares you autist.

>>388739081
Verdone is also more dead.

>>388738759
>DICE is already working on Battlefront games
>2142 is probably the lowest selling Battlefield game to date
>A market that is saturated with other scifi shooters such as Destiny, Titanfall, and Battlefront
honestly, i don't think 2143 will ever happen, despite all of the teasers in BF3/BF4, it just wouldn't make sense only until they stop making star wars games

>>388739081

Lol..no.

Looks and sounds like shit. Gameplay looks boring as fuck as well.

>>388732174
It didn't do anything new, had no point being a ww1 game
Was Arcadish boring and unengaging
It only focuses on a quick rush of gameplay but if you can see past that it feels hallow
It tries to pilot authenticity instead of realism causing to feel like a slightly modded ea battlefront
Overbearing snipers and retarded semi auto/ auto weapons with no debuffs
It feels like I'm firing a vibrator dildo

>>388737320
ahhhhhh no wonder they put autoaim on i always wondered how shit console players where

>>388732174

Too hectic. You can spawn anywhere on the map which makes the game lack any sort of frontline. The enemies can be anywhere at any time capturing any objective.

>>388739198

Only because of all the shitters comllaining about premium. So now you get sub par content and pay 2 win!

>>388739152
what it prove is that console players are bubble gummers and that pc players pay for a hobby more dont get mad its just a fact

>>388733648
I've been busy with work and haven't had any vidya time in the past month or so, but I heard they added new frontlines maps?

>>388732174
why play bullshit like this when you can play mmo

>>388735456
A game which uses a modern war fighting game engine for historical combat well is day of infamy from what I've heard,
>based off insurgency movement but has situations that feel like late ww2 battles
>uses balanced classes
>bolt actions actual able to be confidently used
About her thing is even realistic games have mechanics that aren't necissaraly there to be realistic but it make it feel realistic like red orchestra

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>>388732174
>"we wuz" arguements

Honestly, I didnt even give it a try because of that. I am already tired of muh diversity propaganda and if I am able to choose, why the fuck would I choose something with it?

>>388739659

Yeah monte grappa, amiens, ballroomblitz, and argonne forest are now available to play in frontline modes. Amiens is especially fun when you get into the center of the town and all the alley way fighting starts

>>388739647
But it doesn't. Most of those people could be playing Adventure Capitalist or Click Hero. Just look at mobile on the chart. Are mobile gamers the new hardcore audience? Because that's what the chart is proving.

>>388739246
It's okay to admit your mistakes, OP.

>>388738676
Pray for tannenburg senpai

>>388740035
Okay, sorry.

>>388732174
Total mess snipers op beyond anything else and hardcore is bad

>>388739885
Day of Infamy is amazing yes.
I'm not asking complete realism, I'm asking "good enough"

BF1 feels like they made a WW1 game but knew nothing about it, so they asked Ian from FW to tell them about WW1 guns and then made a WW2 shooter with them

>>388739215
>I played a battlefield game and I was upset when it played like battlefield and not my spergs-only historical war simulators
Why come into a series you know doesn't make what you want and then get pissy when they don't make what you want?

>>388738578
Seems like you haven't catched up about the gun balance in the game then.

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>>388739336
I honestly forgot all about the new battlefront games, I played the beta for the first one and it sucked ass. 2142 was so cool and battlefield always does scale and immersion much better than other war shooters, another futuristic bf is long overdue man fuck.

Whatever they do I wish they would take that shitty spawn in vehicle shit out

>>388737115
The problem is nobody wants to be part of a charge that will lose 50% of its men before reaching the enemy position and who's charging being based on artillery RNG. That's also the exciting part, 90% of the game would be camping a trench hoping you don't randomly die.
People like to bring up ace of spades but that was as far removed from reality as it gets.
Once you dig up trenches in 5 minutes it's not historically accurate, once you have maneuvers smaller than stormsoldiers or night assaults it's not accurate.

>>388740231
Funny how BF4 managed to be good despite how insane it was

Why couldn't BF1 have been, I'm fine with it being arcadey but it's still a WW2 shooter weaing a steampunk skin. The maps are bad, the gunplay is bad, the gameplay doesn't feel nice or smooth

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>people complain about too many automatic weapons
>dice makes a bolt action only game mode
>2 active servers on pc

>>388739921
Niceeeee I'll have to give that a try. Thanks for the heads up anon

>>388732174
battlefield games have become more and more of a mess with each iteration
4 was bad enough with no real frontline and battles being complete choas. BF1 looks even worse

How do I cheese in bf4?
Really feels like a game of jet planes but can't into that, too fucking fast for me.

>>388740565
Worst of all, there's always some goddamn cheater in them that's standing infront of the enemy spawn and kill people as they spawn in, with absolutely no way to retaliate.

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>>388738404
This

>>388737429
>Server
>Console

>>388734793
This, they also split the community in the same fucking way they did in BF4. Not to mention the first 6 months of the game was a beta test.

Fuck EA, I am not buying any more of their shit until they can figure out how to release a game properly.

Honestly I'm just burned out on FPS.

>>388735875
t. incel

>>388740345
My point was removing the rng from artillery, thereby making strategy a somewhat viable option. The commander gets to choose say 3 artillery strikes and how they fall so he could theoretically try to bomb the most densely populated areas to thin out the defenders, or he could focus on one small part of the enemies trench so that it will be easier to charge and establish a foothold in a specific area. The ai soldiers are also important, they act as the cannon fodder during the charge allowing the defenders to feel like they have an advantage and the attackers to figure out where not to attack.

>>388735692
>>388736491
You sound like a shitter. I regularly beat people in firefights where they have the automatico and me a chauchat.

>>388741542
Compared to previous battlefield games, BF1 has a ton of random bullet deviation on automatic weapons. Good job on getting lucky.

>>388732174
literally no-one who plays battlefield at this point uses tactics beyond "run at flag" i'd rather headbutt a wall.

>>388741756
>i-its luck
Aek/Famas spam was magnitudes worse in 4 than autistico/BAR shit in 1.

>>388733279
I guess the problem is than in the game itself, The past few BF's (alongside COD) are just there for the sake of it. In the grand scheme of things, the game doesn't even change and it really is just a reskin for the millionth time. Now that isn't really a bad thing in itself but with their turnover rate being as similar as COD, it literally is stupid just to buy a new BF considering you just BOUGHT one that is REALLY REALLY close to the previous one as well for basically nothing and you are just blowing money because you can I guess.

>>388732174
I do like it.
I think they should have made EVERYONE start with a shitty bolt action and only get other guns for their class at like rank 5 or something.
I also think trench darts on planes are bullshit, artillery trucks are OP as hell - either have them be as tough as they are OR give them auto repair, not both.
And make it so their guns actually fucking aim, and it takes time to switch seats.

Oh and fuck that shitty mountain map with the Italians and A-H empire.
Why do those fags always have the gay maps?

Model 10 is great, non scoped bolt actions are great.
Horsing around was great until latest patch that fucked up all the timing.
And flamethrower is love.

The game is a vessel to sell season passes, the base game itself is worthless, not even a year and it's on EA/Origin Access already. There's also like 2 worthwhile weapons per class and the rest are either gimmick-tier or just straight up obsolete.

The new frostbite engine just dosnt work well with first person shooters. dont get me wrong it looks amazing but the gameplay isnt satisfying

Maps are big but empty. Vehicles are useless. Gameplay feels like Battlefront with WW1 skin.

Progression sucked, there was 3 or 4 primary weapons for each class with half ass customization.

medal system was broken and even then it wasn't rewarding.

vehicles required ALOT of teamwork which would be a good thing but even in a 64 man server you'd see little team work.

Sweet spot mechanic wasnt very rewarding.

>the constant AA nerfs

>limited maps


the game lacked serious depth which is one the reasons people continue to keep playing BF games.

>inb4playforfunplayforskill

unlocking new shit is rewarding and keeps Alot of players going and that's why BF1 has less players than BF4.

also those loot crates where shit.

honestly all BF1 had going for it was the graphics and how easy it is to play a couple games here and there.

>nudice does it again

>>388741995
the average weapon of battlefield 4 has a better shot against the BF4's S tier weapons than the average Battlefield 1 has a shot against BF1's S tier weapons. That is a fact.

Also, the fact that the number of concurrent PC players in BF4 is almost as high as BF1 speaks volume. It was a bad, shallow shooter with extremely
low skill ceiling compared to previous titles. People played it for a few months and realized there were nothing more to it and dropped it.

>Explosive spam
>Lack of content
>Horrible "cheap" feeling map design where they use the same templates over and over again
And a million other smaller things like snipers being still the most irritatingly easy class to use when you'd think that wouldn't be the case in world fucking war 1.

I have thousands of hours of in every major BF game since 1942 and BF1 just feels "dumbed down" and is just too lacking in many ways.
The franchise had a steady downhill and BF4 after all its content and fixes was the peak of BF, but even with its issues, I enjoyed BF4 day 1. It still has some infuriating flaws like that incredibly stupid arcade flight model. Flying planes/helis requires literally no skill whatsoever.

I REALLY tried to like BF1, I was on board during the trailers and I didn't give a single hoot about the horrifying scary black man on the promo art. It felt like a waste of fucking money. It's not fun, its frustrating.

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I don't like the atmosphere.

Pic related was the best BF ever made.

>>388733279
It almost like there's a reason no one makes WW1 games, it adapts very poorly into a video game format if your going for historical accuracy.

>>388743159
Amen.

here's hoping that whatever they shit after Battlefront 2 will be a move back in the right direction. I'd really fucking hate for them to stick with battlefront and BF1's kind of gunplay, I really feel like they had nailed the formula with 3 and 4.

>>388743294
Best map design, best vehicle balance, best classes, I miss blowing up commander's assets with my squad.

The one thing that ruins everything is the amount of spread on every weapon. That's the sole reason I cannot play BF2 anymore.

>>388732174
>American weapons on German side, vice versa.
>No maps
>can't customise how your character looks like
>medics are zzz tier
>only fun class is support

I don't understand why they do this. If you want a multicultural cast just put it into the future. I loved Infinite Warfare's multiflavored cast and it didn't shit all over history. Or make it an "alternate history" game. By playing up the realism angle and turning everybody "safe brown" it just makes you look like a cuck asshole.

i like running around on PS4 with the shotgun, because not only does it make such a nice sound but its a one shot gun, and ps4 has the lock on aim so it requires zero skill and all fun.

anyone here who still plays bf3? the gameplay is just so smooth and satisfying to me for some reason

>>388732174
too short of a campaign and the multiplayer got stale.

>>388744883
Always felt that BF3 gunplay was a tiny bit better than BF4, never could explain exactly how tho.

Well, that was until they buffed suppression to all hell and made it so your screen is nothing but a blurry mess 50% of the time.

>>388732174
too boring.BF4 has more gimmicks and things to try killing someone with.It's fun shooting with mare's leg

>>388743737
>The one thing that ruins everything is the amount of spread on every weapon. That's the sole reason I cannot play BF2 anymore.

Have you tried AIX mod? It fix most of the retardations of the original weapon mechanics from BF2 - not all of them, but most.

too bad the MP is barely alive
but it has a fun SP

I don't care about WWI as a setting, and I just don't need a multiplayer shooter in my life anyway right now.

Too much DLC. I don't really like shooters with a focus on vehicles.

>>388732174
It did not have gore

DLC up the ass. Going to buy it when the whole package with all DLC is $20 or less.

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Speaking of Battlefield, what do you lads think about Ravic?

>>388732174
But I do, I have 640 hours in it

>>388739412
Play different game modes then if conquest is like that for you

>>388738404
>BF1 isn't a WW1 game, but an amalgamation of contemporary shooters with an antique wallpaper skin
That sounds the literal opposite of boring
Would you rather sit in a trench for 30 months, getting your legs rotted off and engaging enemies you can't see with a bolt action rifle that barely even works, while getting shelled up the ass every single second?

>>388748682
Hes a literal fucking god

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>>388732174
I stopped with 1942. I don't give two shits about 1.

>>388732174
WE
WUZ
CASUALS N SHIEEEET

Anyone know if there is a marksman rifle in bf1 that doesn't have that retarded upside down stool handhold?

>>388732174
>less content

serious there was what 6-8 maps on launch. 15 weapons in total having different variations doesnt fucking count

>no weapon customization besides "variants" and a whopping 2 iron sights
>crates
>spawn in vehicles
>WW2 game with a WW1 skin

Madsen Trench best LMG

>>388752685
With you on the madsen but no idea about the different variants.
Game does a shit job of showing what they look like unless you spend points on them.

>>388732174
>Without saying why it's bad, why don't you like it?
saged

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>>388737320
Are they just purposefully bad? I've never ever had a problem aiming with a controller.

Unbalanced. But it's like this because it is casual. It's like trying to describe shit but you can decrube scent, color, or texture. You can't describe BF1 without calling it for what it is, casual.

>>388732174
I don´t like games that were designed to push cultural marxism
plus battlefield formula is kinda boring.
they should have tried to emulate the actual ww1 experience and it would have probably been way more fun

>>388733279
Yeah, Verdun is a superior game. Too bad everyone on PS4 left that immediately after BF1 came out.

>>388733409
>>388733524
>>388738630
Limit it to 3 snipers per team, one for left flank, right flank and center

I like it in small doses. The way the game is designed it's difficult for one player to have much of an impact and the games end up being really chaotic

>>388732174
>Without using valid flaws, explain why the game is flawed.
Fuck off you literal retard.

>>388758460
so I take it its too casual for your taste? because Nigras in german uniforms don't have that big of an impact on gameplay

>>388732174
>dude SMGs lmao
>dude tanks lmao
>dude 2 shot kill snipers lmao

It's pathetic desu, should've just made it ww2 ffs.

>>388732174
next dlc better be fucking good

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BF1 and Rainbow Six Siege are the best 2 fps games on the market right now.

1 allows you to feel like you're taking part in an epic, immersive long-distance war, the other one has an incredibly high skill cap in both shooting an general tactics.

Other fps just can't compare.

>>388759049
Being pissed off by cuck shit thrown into games makes said games not fun to play.

>>388732174
new ticket system is cancerous

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>>388732174
>no trenches
>too many automatics
>we wuz sturmtruppen n sheeit

>>388759049
It's not HISTORICALLY ACCURATE, faggot

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>>388755882
Verdun is also a clunky piece of shit

Movement feels like you are floating, the guns aren't satisfying, the sound design is mediocre to bad, the ranking up system is pants on head retarded, there are no static machine gun nests, suppression system doesn't work, some of the voice acting is a little bad, and worst of all it's only 16v16

I want it to be a good game but the devs have already wiped their hands clean and begun work on a different game, fuck them

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>>388733451

>>388760559
and it's still more fun than BF1

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>tfw no alt history bf ww2 game taking after a more realistic version of C&C red alerts premise so It doesn't have to entirely have to be nazi/jap murder sim #122
Fighting Stalin as European allies as americas stuck in an even greater isolationist ferver or some shit
>a good mix of realism and fun

I don't like videogames

>>388760559
Actually there working on tanenburg which will expand ww1 combat

>>388732174
Short single player that's lacking on content and multiplayer that doesn't have any kind of local options, that's also why I don't like Battlefield in general really. The single player was at least fun though.

>>388749398
This fucking argument
S T R A W M A N

>>388732174
Its casual and filled with We Wuz

theres no reason to use a bolt action rifle
>muh automatics muh gameplay
games can be fun with bolt actions