Tyranny Didn't Sell: The Usual Obsidian Flop

I was interested in it because of the premis, but the whole bad guy vs bad guy was a bit of a turn off and apparantly the second half of the game isn't really complete.

This is a Kickstarter game everyone who wanted a copy already got one. Who actually expects these kinds of games to sell well? The whole point of Kickstarter is the game gets funded by fans so a game is actually made. Any additional sales from that point on are a bonus.

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I didn't buy the game simply because of the games banner/art

It looks like complete shit - like something a Calarts tumblr reject would make

It's a shame because Tyranny is genuiely better than that pile of shit that was Pillars.

Wow, you're telling me a game with zero marketing in a niche subgenre and previous fanbase to appeal to was a commercial failure? Shocking.

>>388728978

This. Anyone who honestly expects a crowdfunded game to sell on mass appeal has no idea what crowdfunding is about in the first place.

>>388729062

>Calarts tumblr reject

Not enough noodle limbs and too much depth.

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>>388729062
The big boxes for PC games made you proud to own them - with their vague, almost ethereal designs, hiding bigger concepts than you could ever figure out from staring at it.

>>388728801
Never heard anything about this game. Also Wasteland 2 was kinda shit so it's only natural the "CRPG revival" hype lasted only a short time.

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>>388728801
>PoE bad
>people refuse to buy the next game

It's simple really.

>still trying to make Baldurs Gate in post-Divinity:OS world
People don't want old shit, especially when actual old shit is done better, what a shock

>>388728801
Tyranny was some Z-team shit with no marketing and a pretty poor game unlike pillars.

>>388729383
*and a pretty poor game exactly like pillars.

Tyranny is actually a pretty good game. The problem is that they dis zero marketing for it, so I'm not sure what they were expecting.

>retard with the same thread every week
Did Obsidian fire you?

>>388728978
spbp

>>388728801
I had fun with the game and I'm glad I played it, but I legitimately had no idea what it was about or when it even released, there was just no fucking marketing.

That horrible banner didn't do the game any favors, who the fuck would think that the DA2 tier art would in any way tell people what the game's about.

>>388728978
Tyranny is not a kickstarter game.

>>388729293
>Also Wasteland 2 was kinda shit

It's not shit, but the game has 0 replay value due to the way they told the story.

>>388729442
Nah fuck your leatherman

>>388729462
it was boring, content-less and short as fuck

Maybe the should stop making isometric CRPGs, considering the only ones that were good where made by fucking black isle and they're dead.

>>388728801
>Obsidian creates generally unlikable and unsellable games
Factually incorrect. They can't make original IPs at all, they just need to work on someone else's lore.

After poe I knew obsidian came to shit.
We'll never get another motb, alpha protocol or even new vegas type of games.

>>388729589
The combats pretty boring. Pretty shit in my book. Its basically trying to be new xcom but lacking any of its depth.

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Pillars of Eternity and Tyranny have the same issue that LawBreakers has. They lack character.

You can't expect people to be interested in your game if it looks so derivative and bland that it could be mistaken for one of those mock-up games you see actors 'playing' on TV shows.

wow it's almost like most people realized how fucking shit and unfun crpgs are

>>388729383
Pillars was pretty bad, though. They aimed to make Baldur's Gate 2 and made Baldur's Gate 1 instead.

>>388729686
poe 2 will be good

>>388729702

>Its basically trying to be new xcom but lacking any of its depth.

WL2's combat is deeper than new xcom, unless suddenly new xcom has time units, finite ammo pools and free aim.

>>388729702
The combat in the director's cut felt punchy and nice - the problem, again, is forcing you into combat. Unlike Fallout 1 and 2, which you could run away from.

So many modern shitty WRPGs forget what made that game great.

>>388729791
Isn't that what they said about poe?

>>388729708
Tyranny has a LOT of character, unlike PoE.

>>388729791
With the balancing man working on it?
I doubt it.

>>388729650
Turn based combat is lazy and boring
So is that perspective

I'd chalk it up to bad marketing. Never heard of this and I'm the type of guy who would be the target audience for this sort of thing

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>>388728801
kys

>>388729754
In what way? Pillars system plays nothing like DnD and they definitely have more RPG elements.

Like dunno how every stat was made to be somewhat useful regardless of class like Might being both strength and magic strength or intelligence boosting effects of any ability even non magical.

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>>388729882
>Tyranny has a LOT of character

>>388729754
I thought PoE was well above average. 7 out of 10 game easy. My biggest gripe with it were the stupid fucking backer stories or whatever, but I learned pretty fast to just ignore them altogether.

>>388729897
>turn based combat
even worse, it's RTwP

>>388728801

I think the main problem is their artists. All their games look like fucking abominations and horse shit. Every one of their characters look like they just walked out of a tumblr blog and that is a big red flag on potential purchases. I wanted to get all these new WRPG's, I was hyped during the initial wave. Guess how many I bought? Zero. Fucking zero. Because I saw shitty art and tumblr characters. I do not want to be assaulted by fucking identity politics of any kind, and modern writers and journalists are fucking obsessed with the cancer of identity poltiics and these games stories and infused with that cancer.

Find writers who aren't obsessed with identity poltics, and find artists who aren't from fucking tumblr, and you will get more sales. Those two things put all the Obsidian and inExile new WRPG's from must by to steam wishlist get it on sale if it's 80% off tier.

>>388729650
Gotta get those nostalgia bucks from people who hate modern RPGs like Mass Effect and The Witcher.

>shit art design
>shit gameplay
>shit graphics
>decent storytelling
I CAN'T WAIT TO BLOW $20 ON SUCH A FINE PIECE OF RPG

>>388728801
When they moved to a more story driven and character focused approach in Tyranny, instead of the usual party of murder hobos roaming the world collecting loot and treasures so prevalent in CRPGs, paired with the premise that evil had won, which instantly put off the moralfags that really make up the bulk of the RPG audience, they signaled about 80% of the usual CRPG fanbase that this game is not for them.

Considering that this game is much more linear and heavy on the branching story it should have been a AAA product and it would have been much more successful. At least i would have bought it since i'm really starved for a story driven AAA RPG that doesn't force me down the good guy route.

I didn't get the game because I heard the ending was unfinished.

>>388729943
She's a beast creature that respects strength and tells you her hunting tales of raping your enemies. What more do you fucking want? In Dragon Age she would have been Sten AKA : "I dropped my sword on the ground and got mad and killed 3 ppl so now I'm sad even though there's nothing at all stopping me from getting my shitty sword back".

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>>388729882
>Tyranny has a LOT of character
Oh yeah man, never seen anything like this before.

Tyranny and PoE are both shit, unfortunately.

Obsidian can't make good games anymore, get over it.

>>388730106
>SHES LOYAL BUT ONLY WHEN SHES NOT LOYAL

wow what a great character truly only Obsidishit could write it

>>388729856

>So many modern shitty WRPGs forget what made that game great.

The writing is what made Fallout great, and that's not something you can easily replicate. Being able to run from combat in Fallout was more a function of combat being a bungle of shit most of the time rather than roleplay.

>>388730210
If you're a strong leader that kills her enemies (guys that she tells you all game she fucking despises), she's loyal. What are you even trying to say? Did you play the game at all?

>>388730249
>The writing is what made Fallout great

That depended - Fallout 2 especially.

No, what made Fallout 1 and 2 great were the multiple solutions, being able to run away from fights or avoiding them entirely by abusing the games engine. It's very Deus Ex like for a 2D engine game.

I enjoyed Tyranny. Too short for my liking but I have fun playing it.

>>388730175
This. I can't believe they tried to pull that marketing stunt to sell more copies by trying to tap into the whole sjw vs gamergate nonsense.

>>388730371
Only a minority of people want to avoid combat dude, what the hell are you talking about? Fallout was great because of the detailed world building and many ways you could solve quests and problems in said world.

nv sold less and have worse rating than F3

Also nv is just a shittier modded 3

Maybe you should make better games then.

>>388728801
is this how people really think now, just like, unironically it didn't sell very well so it sucks. if it's a niche title then it's a niche title it doesn't mean it sucks, i don't think you can really argue that the game is an artist failure.

..i guess i don't blame you for falling for the money line though with the way the 'video game journalists' focus on money these days.

>>388730540
>Only a minority of people want to avoid combat dude, what the hell are you talking about?

I'm talking about great games like Deus Ex and Fallout 1/2 which let you skip combat - unlike trash like Wasteland 2 or Dungeon Rats or Obsidishit games that force you into combat sequences.

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>>388729062
dark seer, chen and invoker. valve should sue.

They should just do another sandbox RPG like New Vegas

>>388730667
>sales number doesnt matter when its about a shitty developer i like

Sure buddy

>a mediocre game of a niche genre sold badly
Wow what a surprise

Bad marketing. This is the first time I've ever even heard of this game.

>>388730705
Okay I guess. Didn't really know skipping combat is that important to some people. Everyone I know enjoys fighting things, but hey, it's not my place to tell you how to play your video games

>>388730896
I'm sure you're hip to all the latest releases breh

>>388730931
Early game Fallout 1 and 2, I avoid those random encounter battles as fast as I am able and run out of the exit grid.

It's literally worse than the games that came before it.
The RTS genre also has the tendency to release increasingly bad games.

So people just stick with the good ones.

>>388730106
Sten was LAWFUL LAWFUL though, Kills-in-Shadows is another edgy character in a game about edgy characters.

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>>388730106
>Insatiable bloodlust for violence and slaughter.
>Insatiable lust for violence
>an unapologetic killer
>And she likes to play with her prey.
>but not evil

>>388729943
You don't have to like her, just kill her.

>>388728801
>This form of gameplay isn't really working in today's environment
Maybe we can finally get some games that aren't fucking topdown or isometric for a change

>>388731182
It'd be better written if she raped men with her futa penis tbqh

>>388729380
Kind of this. I am going to start BGEE or PoE soon.

But the voice acting and modern gameplay of D:OS kind of has me spoiled/worried.

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>>388729935
Why do people do this. Make the same threads over and over again, baiting the same replies probably by the same people. Is it a fear of change? Or do they have a hard time getting (you)'s normally and they try to recreate their one success over and over again?

I don't see the entertainment value in this.

Why the fuck all these RTwP try simulate turns in a fucking real time combat?
>>388730896
The marketing was bad indeed, but not in that sense. They tried to sell a game were you are the evil guy, in the end you were the ambiguous good guy being locked out of any kind of actually evil stuff.

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>>388731306
Modern numales wouldn't include a scene this graphic/obscene because it might offend their 1% female playerbase

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>>388731372

>>388731272
>modern gameplay of D:OS
>turn based combat
>modern
Wut?

>>388731152
>>388731182
She's literally an animal. Animals kill but are not malicious by nature. She walks on all four legs and every other word she says is interrupted by a beast like snarl, you know, like some kind of beast-woman.
I don't understand your arguments, of course a territorial animal is going to rape whatever comes into its hunting grounds. She's intelligent enough to speak and will join your group simply because you're more powerful than her and she accepts you as a pack leader

>>388728801
This is really sad. I really liked it way more than PoE (although I still pirated it because it is clearly unfinished).

>>388728801
It's one of the few RPGs that let me play as an asshole and be rewarded for it.

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>>388731434

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>>388731514
Seriously, if Tyranny had a moment like this, I would have played it.

Best part is that you can force her to have sex with you, but you don't even have to save her husband.

>>388728801
yeah the threads back when Tyranny came out were great because the majority of /v/ were shitting on it

>game "flops"
>expansion coming

?

>>388731450
Someone has a fetish for badly written characters

Tyranny was boring
the new Numera was boring
Pillars was alright because it was riding the initial wave of CRPG revival
Divinity Original Sin showed me that Multiplayer was the way forward for CRPGS, and DivOS2 is taking it to the next level.

>>388731306
>They tried to sell a game were you are the evil guy, in the end you were the ambiguous good guy being locked out of any kind of actually evil stuff.

As someone who loves the rare games where you play a game bad, there is nothing I hate more than this. I already hated how Star Wars Force Unleashed advertised how you got to be a Sith Warrior, yet like 2-3 missions into the game you joint he faggy rebels and become a good guy. But honestly I expected it with Tyranny. Modern RPG devs are so cucked they could never let anything morally bad get into their games. The most evil thing you could do is probably misgender someone or leave the toilet seat up after taking a piss.

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>>388728801
the genre is dead again because POE sold. the game is shit with writing less interesting than dmc3.

now i am heavily wary of playing any current game trying to be a cash grab on my nostalgia

>>388731661
Paradox's economic model is selling poorly made, shitty, unfinished games that PCbros claim are good, but ONLY good if you buy the DLC/expansions

>>388728801
another tranny game flopping? what a surprise

>>388731605
What if I don't want her son to see me fuck her? Nice RPG asshole.

>>388729650
this. they should be trying to make a good dragons age origins rip off instead.

>>388731372
>>388731434
>>388731514
>>388731605

I remember this moment. God I loved Fallout 1 and 2. I really need to give these games a replay.

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>>388731605
>After you are done screaming my name

>>388731718

>Divinity Original Sin showed me that Multiplayer was the way forward for CRPGS

Which is ironic, since the old Baldur's Gate games had it. Also Wasteland 3 is confirmed to have co-op.

>>388731687
There's nothing really notably awful about her character. She's a bit bland because "hurr muh wild hunts" etc, but other than that it's a fairly straightforward character and I don't understand why shitpost about her of all characters when the game does have a lot of other glaring flaws.

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Y'all niggas fell for a pasta thread

>>388729943
What does a furaffinity profile have to do with anything?

>>388731806
Yeah, UTTERLY RUINED

Thanks Cuck Isle Studios and Interfail

>>388732000
thanks, sherlock >>388729935
>>388729472

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>Pillars of Eternity sold excellently
>Pic related
Explain this, OP

Pillars of Eternity was great and Pillars of Eternity 2 will be even better.

Don't give a shit about Tyranny. It's trash.

>>388731372
>>388731434
>>388731514
>>388731605
>going from subtly malicious to pants-on-head retarded cartoon villain evil in one conversation line with the only other alternative being to back down completely
>good writing

>>388732135
>33,614 backers

I'd laugh if the games Steamspy leveled off at 40k

>>388731450
>Animals kill but are not malicious by nature.
Her biography repeatedly points out that she's malicious by nature. Animals kill for for food and territory, their bloodlust is not insatiable. I don't have a problem with that, but you can't build up her character as a savage who kills for pleasure, and then say that's not "evil".

>>388732265
How else would you do it

>Omg bby don't worry just suck dis dizzlenick i love you babbeh *10+ romance points*

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I liked PoE and liked Tyranny even more. Wasteland 2 was okay as well. Age of Decadence was amazing.

No, they're not as good as FO1/2 or PS:T, but i' actually I'm a fan of the genre. I enjoy even the middling or mediocre works. I hope this represents a continuing trend. I'm glad at least some people are trying to revive what was essentially a dead genre.

I enjoyed Tyranny a lot more than Pillars. Also why is everyone shilling Divinity lately? It's just another run of the mill boring ass ARPG like Baldur's Gate.

>>388732279
Doesn't matter. The game is already running on a 100% profit avenue. Any sales above that will be a win. Obsidian already won with Pillars of Eternity 2, which is good, because the game looks like it's gonna be sick.

>>388731450
>She's literally an animal. Animals kill but are not malicious by nature. She walks on all four legs and every other word she says is interrupted by a beast like snarl, you know, like some kind of beast-woman.
This is how you write a better biography than what we have

>>388731854
it did but multiplayer in the old games is fucking awful, everyone is locked in place when 1 person talks to an npc, among other issues.

DivOS gave both players complete freedom and took advantage of it, you had 1 guy lock an npc into dialogue so they wouldnt move around letting the other guy steal from the room and even the person without issue from that npc.
you can go off and talk to people around town whilst your buddy is doing something else like crafting shit or talking somewhere else in town and even if one of you gets into combat the Pyramids not only this incredible tool for puzzles and navigating the world gave you the ability to instantly teleport to one another to assist.

they embraced multiplayer from the outset and didnt just tack it on at the end, afterall the old CRPG's are built on D&D which is a game designed for multiple people, it only makes sense that finally when we get a game similar to that do people finally see the true joy these games could be.

instead alot of devs cling to the singleplayer aspect, i was hyped as fuck for Legends of the Sword Coast, finally a game that uses 5e and had a multiplayer focus, turns out it's not 5e at all and some fucking mish mash ruleset with realtime with pause combat, fucking garbage.

>>388732424
Games not cheaply made garbage like PoE or Tyranny

>>388732263
>Pillars of Eternity was great
>Tyranny is trash
That doesn't even make sense. PoE doesn't even have a story, unlike Tyranny.

>>388732424
>Also why is everyone shilling Divinity lately
Because that's an actual role playing game.

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>>388731283
We already know the answer

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>Obsidian will go bankrupt in your lifetime

Avellone has already jumped ship, and he won't be the last.

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>Obsidian makes a good game
>Sells well
>Obsidian makes a shit game
>Sells badly
Woah, what a concept. Really made me think.

Good, now make New Vegas 2

>>388732561
>Because that's an actual role playing game.

Really? The emphasis seemed more on action than roleplay.

>>388729062
>distinct faces
>shading
please anon. You're trying way too hard.

>>388732650
Nah. They're working on Deadfire instead of licensed shit. The Fallout series is dead. Enjoy whatever Bethesda shits out for it.

>>388732646
poe is a shit game

>>388732424
>Also why is everyone shilling Divinity lately?
Because they revealed skeletons.

>>388732373
I would add an option where you don't act like an overly dramatic cartoon villain over sex.

>>388728960
bad guy vs bad guy is no different than every star wars fan that's wants to be in the empire as a sith knowing that eventually you must take on an apprentice that in the end will kill you

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>>388732646
>Underrail and Shadowcuck Dragonfall
>Great games

My god kill yourself

>>388732646
PoE is dogshit.

>>388732770
You have a shit opinion

>>388732646
sape detected

>>388732646
>Shadowrun
>shit tier
>PoE
>great tier
lol

tyranny is the one obsidian game i actually enjoyed

>>388729269

Oh man Fallout 1 is so good. And that brand of quality by Interplay in that cumalicious signature

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>>388732724
>>distinct faces

You mean out of place niggers in fantasy settings?

>>388732828
Your opinion is dogshit

So why don't people like Tyranny?

>>388732135
but I don't like it

>>388732821
>Underrail not great
I bet you like Age of Decadence too

>>388732821

>Underrail
>not great

You first shittongue.

>>388732342
It says she's violent by nature and has an insatiable bloodlust, which basically means that she likes killing due to her literally being a predatory animal that believes in survival of the fittest. Sure it's a retarded biography suggesting there's so much more to the character, but in-game (the only fucking place that matters), she's a consistent character that you can even just fucking kill as soon as you meet her if you dislike her that much.
If your point is that the biography is stupid, then yeah, it is, but it's not as bad as you're making it out to be.

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>>388732650
>Fallout ever leaving Todd and Emil's clammy hands again
>much less letting Obsidian work on it
It's best to move on anon. Even if they were allowed to make another Fallout against all biblical odds, they're not the same company they once were.

>>388728801
>We've seen that most of the titles after Pillars of Eternity, if you look at Wasteland, Torment - they haven't been anywhere near that kind of success. So maybe it's that a lot of nostalgia fed into the initial bubble and that's why.

It's really simple: PoE was 5/10 mediocrity. if it was released in the late 90s/early 2k instead, no one would have given a single fuck about it and it would have crashed and burned with low scores.
In other words; PoE being a bland, mediocre piece of shit is what killed the hype for all future kickstarted crpgs. Make no mistake, the demand for outstanding and well crafted crpgs like Fallout 1+2, Baldur's Gate 2 and so on is still there. Just not for mediocre shit like Wasteland 2, etc.
I'm not even wasting $5 on mediocrity. I have better things to do with my time.

>>388732912
Kill yourself /pol/. It's a fantasy setting.

>>388732894
Shadowrun Returns is really bad. But I bet you haven't even played it.

>>388732809
He's not throwing her down to the ground and raping her, he's basically seducing a woman who doesn't want to do it.

>>388732263
>PoE
>great
lmao

>>388732912
Do you even know what calarts means? This is why nobody likes you, nu-/pol/

>>388732834
No, he doesn't. The game is just average. They sell the game on how fucking amazing the world is and then sell you to the most uninteresting location in the game possible. Then they kill two characters you have zero reason to care about because some guy in the woods makes some shitty sacrifice. Then you have no fucking reason to do anything.

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>mfw all these fucking 30 year old faggots and their 20 year old neckbeard apprentices hyping up quake, aoe4, DOOM, hl3, etc etc

>>388729062
Totally agree. I don't know what this art style is called but I hate it.

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>>388732951
Nope, that games trash.

>>388732957
Nobodies made a good modern WRPG except The Quest.

>>388733107
Fantasy storytelling concept art aka ugly as shit

I like Obsidian's gameplay design and writing, but I can't fucking stand top-down RPGs that are in real time. Something like Fallout or Divinity works much better.

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>>388732912
>out of place niggers in fantasy settings?
>out of place ANYTHING in a FANTASY setting
0/10 bait, faggot.

>>388733093
You forgot: Your entire motivation to stop the big bad is because you have nightmares or something, which you only know because your party members tell you you farted too loud while sleeping or whatever.
God what a waste of time that game was.

>>388733003
>In other words; PoE being a bland, mediocre piece of shit is what killed the hype for all future kickstarted crpgs
Oh really? Funny how Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire raised 4,407,598 dollars (more than the first Pillars of Eternity did). It completely nullifies your whole argument.
Pillars of Eternity is a great game and you're a faggot.

>>388733240
>Lets put black people in Beauty & The Beast
>This is okay because it's FANTASY

LOTR doesn't have any niggers and thats fantastical as fuck.

>>388733098
If you can't enjoy Doom you are a dumbass.

>>388733265
It just means Obsidiot fanboys will overpay for garbage

>>388733265
They also lost half their backers in the process

>>388733319
>LOTR doesn't have any niggers
>What are orks?

>>388733351
You only consider it good because its competition is Call of Duty and Battlefield

If it came out in 2001, it'd be considered trash

>>388733319
LOTR does have niggers. You're a dumbass.

As for Beauty and the Beast who gives a fuck about Disneyshit.

>>388733265
>it's being made so it's good
Uh....sure. Yeah, sure. You're absolutely right. Pillars was amazing and I'm just imagining I was fighting trash mobs in the blandest world possible for 20 hours. Yup, it's all in my head, I must have been having fun since the second game is being funded, of course, how could I have been so blind?

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>MFW I enjoyed the fuck out of Pillars of Eternity
>MFW I pitched in 60 bucks for Deadfire
>All these faggots with terrible taste crying about it
Suck my dick, retards.

>>388733456
I consider it good because I can blow demons apart with a shotgun and then punch them to death.

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>>388733430

>>388728801
It was a game marketed as "be the bad guy" that didn't actually let you do that and streamlined you into becoming the good goy

>>388733430
I don't remember in LOTR when Gondor enslaved orks to do their heavy labor for them.

>>388733114

Oh look! It's the The Quest shillposter.

>>388733319
Of course there can be black people in fantasy, but if you want your world to be believable, you have to give a reason for people of different skin colors to be mixed, in a same way why different regions have distinct styles of buildings and clothing. It makes the world feel real.

>>388733265
>it's popular so it's good

>>388733482
>LOTR does have niggers. You're a dumbass.

Where are they - quote them from the book or post some nigger hobbits from LOTR 1-3 (And not The Hobbit trilogy of trash)

>>388733551
No it didn't.

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>>388733497
Pillars setting is a million times better than Forgotten Realms. Cry about it.

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>>388733646
Yes it did - you get as evil as Overlord for fuck sakes

(Better games than PoE or Tyranny btw)

>>388733319
Tyranny isn't LOTR.

>>388733551
Except that's wrong.

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>>388733628
What's wrong with me liking a great game?

Oh and The Quest has mod tools unlike PoE or Tyranny

>>388733114
>The Quest.
My god you must be the fucker that tricked me on thinking this being good.
Everything is copypasted and barely works while having NONE of the mechanics that made these games good.
You must be the developer
Fuck you

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>>388733513
>mfw it was a 5/10 game
>mfw I pirated it
>mfw I'm gonna pirate Deadfire too
Feels good being able to play average games and lose literally nothing.

>>388733706
>woah the setting is so amazing! Here, play in the end of the world away from all possibly interesting locations in the world

>>388733751
That's the understatement of the year. Tyranny is definitely shitty like GRRM though

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>>388733875
I don't know how I tricked you when there's gameplay footage of it to figure out whether you'd like that kind of game or not

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>>388733265
I've rarely seen someone being this asshurt and triggered on 4chan over a simple statement, going from passive-aggressive nu-male cuck to head bashing ad hominem Trigglypuff in less than 5 seconds.

>>388733643
They come from Harad and Khand

>>388734103
I'm just shitposting on this shit (copy-pasta) thread. Having actual arguments in a thread made by this faggot is a waste of your time.

>>388733706
name 3 monsters you fight in-game

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>>388733513
>I'm funding the games you pirate, be mad

>>388734261
bear
boar
wolf

>>388728801

>PC only

I wonder why it flopped

>>388733706
Yes, shades, beetles and slimes are so great, asshole.

>>388733319
>LOTR doesn't have any niggers and thats fantastical as fuck.
Were you triggered by how LOTR has arabs though?

>>388734459
WE WUZ FANTASY LOTR ARABS 'N SHIT

>>388730114
christ, age of decadence has more character than this shit and that was made by some autists in their garage

>>388733567
You don't remember when Saruman THE WHITE did though?

I tried to play as the bad guy but for some reason in a game where "evil wins" you're still a good guy

stupid

glad it bombed

>>388734345
Go back to your shitty sonic threads.

>>388729380
Divinity OS dropped hard after the murder case and turned into very generic RPG shit

>>388734589
You literally kill many innocent people during the course of the game, what the fuck are you on about?

>>388734009
You trick people even by saying it's a good game, and you even dare say it's a good rpg.
I didnt watch shit to not get spoiled and basically had a bit of trust on what you said.
I had low expectations but it was so fucking bad i wish i could have my 7 bucks back so bad now
Stop shilling your game incompetent game developing fucker

>>388734730
You're just following orders - lawful neutral at worst

>>388728801
good because those games are fucking boring

>>388734764
Alright senpai explain what you mean. I really liked exploring the world. Thought the writing was a bit rough, but I really liked stumbling into quests and weird areas.

>>388734810
Even LN would draw the line somewhere and say "bruh this is pretty evil"

I HATE obsidian

>>388734810
There should have been more KotOR tier evil choices I agree. Nothing quite like telling a guy to kill himself because he's "sick".

One of reasons I don't play these games is because they removed the romance option. I mean fantasy Japanese RPG games conrinue to have romance in them why suddenly some Western developers dropping it?

One of the interesting and memorable parts in BG is the romance.

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>>388735178
tl;dr: Because he sucks at getting women in real life, he wants his characters to be as big of losers as he is (if he isn't a big fag like Tim Cain)

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>>388735178
Cuckold numales think having sex/romance with an adventurous woman is sexist

Even though fucking CONAN had sex and romance.

>>388735347
There is nothing wrong with making your characters huge losers. It's refreshing.

>>388735347
He's right.

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>>388735504
Indeed, Sawyer, indeed.

>>388735178
>>388735347
>>388735503
I never liked them because they were poorly written. If I want to romance a fictional character I will play a VN.

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>>388735520
You should get laid.

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>>388735347
>>388735618
>It's this faggot again
Based Sawyerino Autismo perpetually living in your head, rent free. Why don't you make more hundreds of threads about how big a cuck he is and how you really want to fuck fantasy elves real bad? So that everyone can agree that you're a faggot for the bilionth time?

>>388733319
Harad. They were in the books and the movies. They also had Arabs.

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>>388735710
>Based Sawyerino Autismo perpetually living in your head, rent free.

Of course a virgin wrestling fan would be a fan of numale Obsidiot games.

go back to /asp/

>>388734895
Zones are shuffling copypastes of a rock, a tree, a bush and some ingredients
Enemy placements are shufflings of 3 varieties of 2 enemies.
AI is fucking atrocious composed by 2 if then else checks and it gets stuck everywhere
Combat is just attacking and chugging potions
Everything is out of balance
Quests are poorly scripted and quite buggy, have some failstates and cannot consider a third solution
Story is the definition of bland
Characters act and talk all the same
Dungeons are meh, but can't hold against grimrock or m&m
Graphics is horrible and full of recycled sprites

>>388735178
Thre's always Bioware for you though ;^)

>>388735793
>Combat is just attacking and chugging potions

Kinda like Fallout 1 and 2.

>>Combat is just attacking eyes and chugging stimpacks

>Story is the definition of bland

You should have played some of the Wizardry or Ultima games.

>Characters act and talk all the same

Depends on who

>Graphics is horrible and full of recycled sprites

Like old 90's RPGs. Fallout 2 is 90% recycled graphics yet it's still awesome.

>>388735618
He's not wrong about any of that

>>388735784
Everyone supports Anita except butthurt neckbeard virgins

It is known

>>388736093
Yeah I'm sure Moviebob is a real ladies man

>>388728801
Actually this form of gameplay would be fine if they would just make it turn based like Fallout 1.
The real-time-but-you-can-pause is a crock of fucking horseshit and isn't fun.

>>388735954
>Kinda like Fallout 1 and 2.
Depends on your play style, but aimshots are very useful tool in F1/2, destroying legs, arms and faces is very important part of combat especially close quarters.

>>388736012
The womens armor thing is retarded.

If you want to go down the realism hole then you might as well remove women from fighting roles anyway since thats not realistic.
Then why would someone use a gun and a shield? Why plate armor and a gun?
Was the rest of the game realistic? If you have magic and shit then dont pull the realism card.

>>388735706
You're the one whining about not being able to romance a video game character autismo

>>388734536
The Easterlings were Arabs, retard. You know, the brown people that rode the giant elephants?

>>388736292
It looks cooler and lets me take them more seriously.

Why do I feel like I took a time portal ?
I already saw this thread ten times months and months ago.

>>388736292
When people say "realistic" they don't mean "This doesn't happen in reality" they mean "There is a reason why it doesn't happen in reality."
Women fighting as fiction was around ever since ancient greeks and they even fought in medieval times, guess what they didn't have? Breast plates.

>>388736254
Late game I was casting spells, chugging potions, switching from throwables like bows and arrows to my sword, etc all just to keep myself alive. Oh and all the repairing I had to do. (They actually nerfed the amount of armor/weapons repairing you have to do.)

>>388736332
How can you take some retard wearing plate armor in the gunpowder age seriously?
Hell why would you use armor if there were wizards throwing balls of fire around?

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>>388736326
>Arabs rode elephants

>>388736292
>If you want to go down the realism hole then you might as well remove women from fighting roles anyway since thats not realistic.
>this meme again
Yeah, just because in real life men wouldn't let women fight doesn't mean they can't. You're retarded argument is only spouted by retards mad they can't fap to stupid armour designs.

>>388736326
But arabs aren't black people

>>388736427
it all depends on the play style, most RPGs for me, end game is just walking past enemies while cloaked or sneaking.

>>388735954
Dont you even dare call fallout 1 and 2 in this.
This was clearly the work of a lone developer rushing things to cash on nostalgic retards like me or wanna-be nostalgic retards.
There are no emerging features in this besides trying to be nostalgic while failing on everything else.
Yes, i played ultimas and wizardry and Those had other features making them games

>>388736506
Women literally can't fight worth a shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbBIK8CzCYo

Have you seen Rhonda Rousey's punching? It's fucking hilariously bad.

>>388728801
>shit/dead crpg genre games
>sells like shit
Sasuga

>>388736292
>why plate armor and a gun
Because that was fucking overpowered as shit in a certain point in history? Also there's nothing specifically stopping a woman from fighting, since RPG characters are implied to be better than average at their roles.
>magic means common sense and basic physics stop applying to the world
Fuck off idiot. Magic varies from setting to setting, but it never stops basic physics from existing.

>>388736493
>I haven't watched Lord of the Rings
Wouldn't expect any less from a weeb.

>>388736508
The point is his "hurr magical fantasy worlds can only have white people exist" statement is retarded.

>>388728801
Who cares? Chris Avellone isn't in Obsidian anymore, so their games no longer matter

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>>388736586
>Dont you even dare call fallout 1 and 2 in this.

They're my two favorite RPGs and Fallout 1 and 2 remind me of The Quest very much so.

>and Those had other features making them games

yeah like retarded classes

>>388736595
>cherrypicked clip
Wew lad

>Have you seen Rhonda Rousey's punching? I
Nah, I have better things to do than watch people beat each other up.

>>388736402
I'm half convinced threads like this are because of bots. The alternative is too depressing to consider.

>>388736623
>The point is his "hurr magical fantasy worlds can only have white people exist" statement is retarded.

But there's actual context for that considering World War 1

Niggers basically have no culture and no connection to fantasy.

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Its a victim of dumb design decisions

I've heard going against not-Sauron at the start doesnt really seem to change the story

and you have no choice but to go against him at the end, which sucks because I wanted to play a judge dredd style toady loyalist

The setting is great, but I think they fumbled this

>>388728801
>promise evil campaign
>it's actually being a reasonable authority figure against assholes

FUCK YOU.

>>388736793
... WHaT?

>>388736793
What?

>>388736881
>>388736907
...what?

nostalgiafags btfo you only played this stuff because nothing better was available

mass effect 2 shits on baldurs gate 2 - its called technological progress

nothing wrong with it, its the same as tap water beats shitty well water in a rusty bucket. Nonetheless I'm sure there are retards out there who still use wells and think they are better

>>388736716
Nah it's one guy reusing the same templates over and over again, he has a few of them and they usually pop up around the same time

>>388733810
>It's ok for me to hate a game you like because it sucks
>you shouldn't hate on a game I like because you think it sucks tho

>>388736793
>Niggers basically have no culture and no connection to fantasy.
Oh, you're just a retarded /pol/tard. Opinion discarded.

>>388737095
To what end? I can't imagine it's fun doing this shit over and over again basically getting the same replies every time.

>>388737096
The Quest is a $10 game compared to a $50 studio made Obsidiot fanboy game like PoE with $40 DLC/expansions.

>>388736697
The quest reminded me of a horrible version of might & magic and it sucked so hard it made me want to play m&m for the 11th time instead

>>388737264
>my game is better because its cheaper
keep going

>>388728801
>titles after Pillars of Eternity, if you look at Wasteland
How fucking uneducated do you have to be to write about this topic and not realize that Wasteland 2 was released SEVERAL YEARS before Pillars?

>>388737424
>SEVERAL YEARS
Meant to write SEVERAL MONTHS.

>>388737424
They were released six months apart.

>>388737515
>>388737424
Probably was looking at release date of the improved edition?

>>388737367
Uh, yeah? It's $10 rather than overcharging you like PoE or Grimoire.

Even for free, if I pirated both (I pirated PoE but bought The Quest), I barely got past POEs opening but saw The Quest through.

>>388737607
Possible. But that makes the writer even more of a shitlord in my book.

Remembering something wrong can happen.

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On the topic of Wasteland 2, what's the general consensus on it? I still haven't tried it along with Underrail and I'm kind of too lazy to get started.
Is it worth the time to play either?

>>388737734
The DC is worth one play through - but not much beyond that.

>>388737734

With the Director's Cut WL2 is pretty good, but it's definitely a one-and-done deal, no reason for repeat playthroughs.

Underrail's writing is kinda mediocre, but the combat is very well-balanced and is certainly worth multiple playthroughs with new builds.

>>388737921
>Underrail's writing is kinda mediocre

Oh you damn right

Even with Wasteland 2's horrible SJW pandering to faggotry, it's still head and shoulders above Underrail in that department.

>>388737663
>the only reason my game is better is because its cheaper and I like it better
>nevermind all other factors
don't stop now

>>388738049
I like the HD graphics, the sound, the music, the gameplay, the exploration, etc

I think the story and setting are a little weak, but PoE is also super weak in that department and that's $50

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>all these desperate Obsidian shills in full damage control mode

JUST

Why is PoE so boring. Got in in humble bundle, figured I'd see if I can finish it this time, made it to defiance bay and then uninstalled.

>>388738717
Deadfire is looking great and any sales it gets will be a guaranteed profit, since it was backed through Fig. I'm a happy Obsidian fan.

>>388738001
What did Wasteland 2 did again. I remember playing it for a fair bit and not encountering anything

>>388728801
PoE was mediocre but Tyranny was shit.

>>388738182
>only what I think matters
sorry for the late reply I was jacking off

>>388739184
That perfectly describes your brand of intellectualism

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>>388739050
If you're asking about the SJW thing, in WL2 you literally save gay people from big bad evil Christians (and you have to do it because it's an achievement)

Name things you liked about Tyranny
>magic system had potential, if it didn't have such high costs and allowed you to go wild
>Tunon was a fun character

And that's it.

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>>388738801

>>388739407
The concept of playing Judge Dredd in a bureaucratic society where evil won and you're just following orders.

They failed on it so bad.

>>388738798
trash mob, lore dump, loading time, backtracking

>>388739515
Or playing robber baron samurais where you abuse the populace because you're the guys with the swords

They failed at that too

>>388739407
It let me play an asshole and be rewarded for it.

>>388739373
>saving people is SJW
Damn, President Lincoln was such an SJW!

>>388739754
Saving people should come at a cost, otherwise it's just video game wank with no consequences

>>388739276
>when I argue about which is better between two things only what I think matters
real talk tho, took a look at The Quest
HD Graphics? really?

>>388739934
>Saving people should come at a cost
Are you retarded?

>>388739934
Usually you need a few bullets and maybe medical supplies.

You don't need to make saving puppies detonate nukes in populated areas for moral ambiguity.

>>388732464
Go shill your shitty jew platform somewhere else Tim.

And Fallout fags were butthurt because F3 isn't an isometric rpg HAHAHAHAHAH

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>>388739980
I really like its look

and yes, because it's 1080p enabled compared to 320x240 of older games, it's HD

>>388739754
It's the narrative that's SJW bullshit, doofus, not 'saving people'

>>388740408
>it's a narrative that Christians killed people in the medieval days
I bet you think witch burnings are a feminazi hoax.

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>>388739934
>Saving people should come at a cost
holy shit
I mean sure a reward but damn son you don't gotta be cold about it
almost like you don't care about other people unless you get a direct benefit

>>388740524
How about some evil muslims doing it for nuance?

>>388740598
It's in USA.

If there were muslims you would reject it even faster for pushing an agenda.

>>388740598
>Muslims in medieval europe
Wew lad. Yet your probably the same kind of guy that spergs out about black people in a fantasy game.

>>388740818
>Inserting races where they don't belong is only okay when it fits MY agenda

>>388740076
are you? how many Northeners died in the Civil War

>>388740978
>Inserting races where they don't belong is only okay when it fits MY agenda
Sounds like you wanting muslims in ye old England

>>388740818
Muslims took over Spain and North Africa/NearEast by the sword, all former Roman areas

>>388741070
Wasteland 2 takes place in POST APOCALYPTIC AMERICA YOU FUCKING RETARD

>>388740991
>save some people in a video game
>hurr where's my reward!
You sound really sociopathic. >>388740527 put it best.

>>388741082
>Spain/North Africa are Northern Europe

>>388741241
who said Northern?

>>388740527
>>388741160
>hehe i'm le ebin angelic good guy who can save everyone and not have to make any morally grey choices at all

I bet you like Witcher 3 which is a very simplistic good vs evil compared to Witcher 1 which has very morally grey choices

>>388741160
seek fresh air

>>388741126
Yeah, so you're saying you think a game set in post-apocalypse America should have muslims

Hmm... do you live in Europe by any chance?

>>388728801
PoE was fun as shit

Tyranny was just shit

>>388741298
Medieval fantasy games aren't set in Spain/Northern Africa

>>388741395
You first

>>388741305
>Witcher 1 which has very morally grey choices
Lmao good one kiddo. I love it when newfags try to "fit in" but can't actually talk about games that came out before they were born.

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Black guy=Me
White guy=Average Obsidiot

>>388741305
>Hey guys do I fit in yet? Look let me name drop one of /v/'s ebin favorites that I saw on 9gag!

Traditional fantasy sells, no shit.
>muh feminists "original" setting

>>388741305
Dude we are talking about a hypothetical human life here
If you can save a life without threat to your own or another third persons life, why not? because you won't get a reward?

>>388741929
>heheh wouldn't it be epic and cool if a WOMAN was ruling ehehehehhehehhe

>>388728801
oh fuck no
You're back
I knew it
you changed up the image md5s through a compression program which was how I was tracking you and getting the mods onto your tail

>>388742134
Ignore him, he's triggered by this problematic game :^)

>>388738182
>music
3 tracks of which 2 are used 90% of the time

>>388742134
no I'd rat out faggots to get murdered

>>388728801
>A kickstarter game didn't sell
no shit, the people who were interested got the game ""for free"" after backing the kickstarter

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>>388742134
As long as it's not a man saving a woman, which is sexist!

>>388742263
Just a PSA that threads like these are made by a ban evading biodrone hyper-autistic faggot who spams about 50 diffferent threads repeatedly a day.
He changed the image MD5s of his OP images which was how I was tracking him down and getting the mods on his ass
If you see threads mentioning neutralfags, an unnatural hatred of obsidian and specifically josh sawyer, report, filter, and hide

this nigger has been doing this for several years and anons and the mods just started catching on a few months back

>>388742757
>WAAAHHH HOW DARE SOMEONE CALL OUT HOW SHITTY POE AND TYRANNY ARE WAAAHHH
Pathetic.

>>388743129
I hate obsidian and love larian m8
This nigger is a pathetic piece of shit, spamming completely irrelevent shit from "Is cassie cage the worst designed female character in games" to "This is an item in a modern adeventure game, thanks telltale"
It has nothing to do with your pathetic studiowarrring, I have made it an autistic goal of mine to track this nigger down

I'm genuinely curious why so many of you get ass blasted to the point you'd make a thread about these games. You can currently buy both of these games and their dlc, (shitty tyranny paradox tier picture shit excluded) for like 60 USD.
Is this just like bethesdrones who are still mad about NV being better than both Fallouts that they put out?
If you're being typical retard tier /v/ user these games are at worst, 6/10s. They work, they do what they set out to do, Tyranny to a less degree with it's main selling point, They look alright, sound design is fine, and they have decent mechanics.
This place baffles me still after a decade

>>388743375
woah different people have different opinions, how odd

>>388743375
It's one dude
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these are the image md5s of his previous bought of threads, he ran his shit through a compression algorythm or something and not they've changed, I didn't pick up the text like an idiot

>>388743447
No shit retard, I'm saying it's pathetic to be this ass blasted about something, especially if you didn't like it. They're like the most inoffensive fucking games put out in the last 5 years. I didn't even like PoE

>>388743375
>for like 60 USD.

WOW! $59.99! I FEEL LIKE I'M STEALING FROM THEM

>>388743519
Oh holy shit, godspeed anon
>>388743612
It was a retort to people talking about price as a reason against obsidian. 60 USD for 2 games, a Full expansion (TWM), and whatever that retarded picture book shit in tyranny is.

Yet, there are people here who bought Fallout 4 and their Season pass at launch. cuckyourself

>>388728801
This means shit. A good baldurs gate 3 will sell. The problem isn't old-school RPGs and isometric 2d graphics. People still play DND and people still play fallout 2 and XCOM. The problem is that these sjw devs are fucking garbage at making video games.

>>388743519
>he ran his shit through a compression algorythm or something and not they've changed,
>someone is autistic enough to do this for no actual gain since shitposting on /v/ changes nothing about the company

I'd like to say this surprises me but it really doesn't.

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155KB, 500x375px

>>388728801
Maybe they should get their head outside their asses a little bit and realize that their writing isnt as good as they think and try to either make better stories/characters or tone down on the text walls.

>>388743784
Spamfag has been a plague upon /v/ for fucking years and the more people know about him the better
His threads are still almost always deleted on sight, but this was one of his big ones, one of the rare copypaste threads where he occasionally responds, and it hasn't gotten 404'd yet.

>>388744093
>IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY AGAINST MY FAVORITE COMPANY!
-you

>>388728801
I just thought the GAME PLAY was really bad in poe so I didn't get 5he game that clearly plays the same way

Divinity 2 is going to sell and it won't need nastalgia to do it

>>388744253
It'd explain the influx of them I usually see around, worst part is it seems some random anons like to take to his ways and try it themselves. Fucking Hell, pseudo-janitor bless you

>>388744365
I'm just a faggot with more productive autism who hates cyclic shit like this