Just what were they thinking?

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*blocks your path*

>>388716106
>card is so powerful another one is made specifically to counter it

>>388716106
So basically Blizzard admits Jade Idol is bonkers, yet they make us wait over half a year for a solution? A nerf should've been put in place no later than a month after MSOG. Jade Idol should cost at least 2 mana and should only shuffle two more in your deck.

>>388716201
There's 0 point playing a competitive game since no game company is competent enough to upkeep one.

>>388716201
Or change it to shuffle 3 Jade Golems into your deck instead.
Anything that would prevent an infinite loop.

>>388716201
But that way people wouldn't have paid money for the card.

>>388716201
the best thing is geist does literally nothing to stop jade druid. By turn 6 druid doesn't need idols anymore.

>>388716975
not to mention that using 6 mana to summon a 4/6 against a druid instead of dealing with the crap he's vomiting onto the field generally speaking means you're dead next turn

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hey guys what are you chatting about

>>388716106
>and then I said it's a 6 mana tech card. play it in every deck
>benbrodelaughing.png

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>>388716106
What's the point of designing counters this specific when even the competitive Hearthstone doesn't have a sideboard.

>>388717223
Just a shitty time sinking card game made for autistic man children

>playing Hearthshit
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>388716201
Sooner or later you'll realize how Blizzard do things. They don't mind something being overpowered or overused, as long as everyone gets their turn. That's how they have been balancing their games for a very long time.

>a single card destroyed the control/fatigue deck archetype

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>>388717682
>blizzard in charge of meta balance

>>388717223
This card is nothing compared to what we have now. It was op only because it was the first power creep expansion after classic set. Even pirate warrior would tear huntertaker in pieces.

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>>388717341
Warlocks and priests never get their turns. And druid was tier 1 for YEARS first in mid range combo form and now with jade and aggro decks. Druid wasn't good for only like 1 short expansion right after they nerfed the shit out of it's cards. But then they added more broken shit to replace it.

>>388716524
DotA 2 is the most balanced it has ever been. It's actually amazing.

>>388717341
Unless you're mage, in which case you stay OP for the game's entire lifespan

>>388718202
Handlock, Highlander and Zoo have been consistently good for every expansion up until Un'goro.
Priest only had a few times early in expansions were unrefined Priest decks were just wrecking all the other unrefined decks.

>>388716975
Your first statement was correct. The second was laughable and stupid.

>>388718202
>>388718323
Wasn't Dragon Priest a thing in MSoG meta?

>>388718276
Not surprised valve would be the only exception

I still play a random priest deck. I lose a lot, but I have fun when I pull off crazy things like getting Jaraxus with 40 health and another two Amaras in the hand. And no one expects a Lorewalker Cho anymore

>>388718486
Dragon Priest was auto-lose if you drew a poor hand at the start.

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Reminder that for 6 mana this is the power level that jade gets

While we get a 4/6 that likely thins our deck

>>388718529
>valve
it's icefrog
>but icefrog works at valve
shut up

>>388718202
Priest is literally the second best class right now. Highlander DK Priest is really strong, and Big Priest is fucking bonkers, one of the most unfair decks in the game.
Maybe shared second because Mage is still good as well with Exodia, Secrets and Freeze. But Priest shines because Highlander Priest can just end the game against Druids with their heropower, and Big Priest is decent at dealing with the big jades with its spells and particularly the Obsidian Statues.

>>388719173
is exodia really that good? last xpac it was a meme deck

>>388719223
exodia mage is great, the meta is much slower so the chance you have of hitting your combo is much higher. Some faggits still play pirate warrior but oh well.

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JUST

>>388716106
for most decks including this barely increases your winrate against jade druid

>>388719223
It's better than regular freeze against Druid because of Earthen Scales and all their other armor-niggardry, and since Druid is like 70% of the meta, it's a legit deck now.

>>388717914
>yeti stats on turn 2

>>388716036
>Make an ONLINE card game
>Release balance updates once in a bluemoon
What were they thinking?

>>388719740
>BGH'd an undertaker on turn 4
>wonder what the fuck I was doing with my life
>uninstall

>>388719710
>>388719505
I'll give it another shot then, got all the required cards anyways
it was fun last xpac but I just hated the virtual auto-loss against pirate

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>>388719920
Because players don't like returning to the game and seeing their favourite cards nerfed, of course, even though they say this and then make warsong commander completely unplayable in any situation.

>>388720071
Players also don't like oppressive, brain dead decks dominating the meta

>>388720071
By the time I returned there was the whole standard and wild system and half of my cards became free dust
I think they just don't want to hand out full refund dust

>tfw I pulled Prince Valanar and Valeera DK
>wasn't planning on playing Rogue
>now having tons of fun in wild with Mill Rogue

This deck is so fucking retarded, but I love it. It's actually genuinely strong as well, somehow.

has the legendary chance been upped drastically? got 5 death knights in 15 packs

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>>388720347
>pulled lilian voss
this effect isn't good or interesting enough to be stapled to a legendary

>>388720934
Yeah, that's a typical meme card. It can be funny but it's not consistent enough to be good.

>>388717682
You say that as if control was ever good in hearthstone in the first place.

I fucking hate priest

I think they're actually the most annoying class now

>>388716106
>Hard counter card only grants a 52% winrate against Jade Druid

Good shit.

>>388721346
>Control Warrior

>>388717254
To make the competitive ladder a RNG machine with Skineer's box mechanics.
You skill doesn't matter, only 2 things matter: Luck and how much you've spent.
That's the ulterior motive in any of Blizzards's designs.

>>388719570
>craft it because I knew it would get nerfed
>can make a good deck only with it and common shit
>gets nerfed and I lose literally nothing
Feels good

>>388721346
>I only just started playing last xpac

>>388716036
People wonder why I roll pirate warrior. Only way to counter jade bullshit at this point.

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You unlocked me yet, right? Wouldn't want people to think you're a shitter that can't even beat a scripted AI with a shit deck.

>>388720347
The current wild format is honestly the best HS has ever been. I wouldn't touch Standard with a ten foot pole.

>>388721749
Glad you could MRGLGLL it uther.

>stopped playing years ago because of the aggro meta
>since old gods things have been changing to a control meta
>it's even less fun

i think what it is that bothers me is single cards winning the game. quests, old gods, jades, death knights, ect

it's like every game i'm just sat there hoping to draw my "i win" card before my opponent draws his. it's so dull

holy fuck i miss aggro

>noobs still getting crushed by such an easily countered deck
kek, rank 15 treating you well? jade druid isnt even good, you're just bad. idk how i managed to get rank 2 with it. i guess the majority of HS players are morons.

>>388716036
MSOG has been ruining the game since it dropped. Just move it to wild early and everything will be great. No jade, no pirates, no murlocks.

>>388722737
Tell us brainlets: what deck counters jade that doesn't get run over by aggro druid?

What's a nice sorta-budget deck for a beginner? I got 3280 dust to work with.

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>>388722737
Tournament breakdown for this weekend.

What a fair spread of classes

>>388723576
What the fuck are those last 3? Im pretty sure theres only 6 classes in this game.

>>388723576
such a god damn shame druid doesn't work
I like the concept of the hunter DK, but sadly the cards to actually support it don't exist

>>388723783
>druid
I meant hunter, druid's so omnipresent they're even affecting my mind I guess

>>388723783
What Hunter needs is a way to contest and take over the early game, since they have no ways for comeback, but once they have it they won't use it to carry them into some value grind endgame. Hunter inherently wants to smorc. Give them good smorc cards, they're gonna smorc. Don't give them any, they're unplayable.

>>388724296
Yeah, no matter what hunter I try to make, having a great early game and just playing midrange-y always works best. Blizzard somehow doesn't fucking see this though, what they need is a 2-cost arcane shot and a 4 mana 2/1

>>388721749
Shit was so easy. Beat everthing but hunter and warrior with murlocs

>>388724296
and yet every single xpac they try to make control hunter a thing and unfortunately half-ass it and give them mediocre cards for that purpose when hunter needs and absolutely stupidly powerful control card for it to even be a thing

they could have given hunter ultimate infestation instead of druid and it still wouldn't have helped

>>388723769
Warlock
Rogue
Hunter

>>388724823
I don't know about that, the main thing keeping Hunter down and forcing it into finishing the game quickly is its lack of draw. UI is the strongest draw card in the game.

>>388725516
it's also a 10 mana spell, which in hunter makes it a turn 10 card

they don't really have the longevity to successfully last turn 10 without either them or the opponent dying turn 11

part of what makes UI stupid in druid is that they had the same draw issue, but also had a ramp thing going on letting them reliably play the card turn 7, and have more than enough longevity to last those turns

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>>388726045
>turn 1 coin Wild Growth
>turn 2 Jade Blossom
>turn 3 Nourish + Wrath
>turn 4 Innervate + UI
>Hmm, well played

>>388721346
>Forgetting the good old days of 200 HP donothinguntilyoukillyourself Warrior

>>388722737
>>388723073
>>388723576
I don't have a bait image folder right now but let's just pretend I posted the one where the other fish take the bait and one of them says "fucking idiots".

>>388727679
Only if you make the fish a druid or a laughing ben brode

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Havent played the game in a bit, what in the new xpac makes jade druid considered so OP and insane now that they didn't have before?
Pic unrelated

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>>388728323
A card with ~20 mana worth of value they regularly play turn 7 on top of all the busted shit they got in Mean Streets

>>388728494
nice OC

>>388728323
Ultimate Infestation, Spreading Plague, Malfurion the Pestilent, plus the already overbearing power of jade + ramp.

>>388728494
>turn 7
You haven't been innervate + innervate + coin + infested when you only have 3 mana crystals before?

>>388728323
it's more that they were strong and are still strong but now have cards that cover their weaknesses (no card draw, easily rushed down) with spreading plague and >>388728494

>>388728684
A lot of people wished it to not exist because it was printed alongside Spreading Plague

But thanks to that, Ramp and Midrange can easily greed out mana crystals while Jade doesn't need to make combos with Auctioneer

Which also helps aggro Druid as other classes cannot fully know what to mulligan with 4 vastly different Druid decks

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Oh hey it seems that you have managed to rush me down to 4 HP before I made a near unbreakable board
I sure hope I draw something that lets me act like that never happened for 1 mana :^)

>>388729540
That's a real card? Glad I never looked back

>>388729540
Agroshitters blown the fuck out

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And here I am slaughtering Jade Druids with my Buffadin on the regular..

this shit pisses me off
blizzard "doesn't want to nerf cards and hurt people who spend dust crafting decks" or some shit but then they offer a full dust refund for the nerfed cards anyway
all they had to do was make the reshuffled cards 1 mana "summon a jade idol" cards, that's it
no shuffle on shuffle on shuffle and reshuffling both still puts 6 in your deck, which is plenty when you have aya and jade spirit and jade blossom
fuck blizzard, i wish the balance team would get in an accident

>>388732220
wow only 5 legendaries

>>388716036
thinking about all the money they'd get, yummy yummy!

>>388732220
what a mess of a deck, probably works good enough at rank 15 though

>>388716106
>on six mana
even with 2 in my deck, it doesnt counter jade all that much, just that he doesnt have free jade + draw at the very end

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>>388728323
This retarded card.

Before you could aggro out druid, now its literally impossible.

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Shadowverse is the best card game right now

>>388735031
That's a weird way to spell Faeria.

>>388734905
This card is bull shit. The scarabs should be 1/3 at best.

>>388733756

Rank 5, with ease right now matey and barely played this season. Don't pretend you know what you're talking about eh.

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>>388716106
>>388716036
this is blizzard balance in a nutshell fucking kek

>>388735031
is JO dragon even a thing now? it was absolute meme status half a year ago

>>388735980
It's still a meme. Even worse meme after they nerfed Grimmnir.

>>388719505
>the meta is much slower

Yeah, no. At rank 1-5 and legend the meta is like 25% aggro druid, 50% aggro murloc paladin, 10% aggro shaman, 10% jade druid and 5% pirate warriors.

>>388721376
They've always been annoying as hell in my book, removal for fucking years.

>>388738392
They're definitely the hardest class to play around because you don't want to fall for their cards
>Potion of Madness
>Shadow Word Pain
>Shadow Word Death
>Mind Control
>Shadow Madness
>Embrace Darkness

But trying to play around them limits on what you can do each turn

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>>388719173
What a time to be a priest main

>>388721749
Of course I did

I still prefer Liandry's portrait though.

>>388721749
I'm waiting for season reset. I'll do it the first week when the ladder will be literaly solid druid.