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Ark Refunds

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http://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/1473095965283237626/#c1473095965283323256

Apparently refunding a game that leaves EA was a "glitch" and not an option when the final product is less than satisfactory.

Glad I was early enough to refund this PoS
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>>388711091
Did they really change how the refund timer worked because of ARK?
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>>388711091
>community manager
>meaning anything
until a dev says it I'm pretty sure they knew it was shit and were offering refunds.
Even if it was unintentional, or they have to say it was unintentional to board members, good on them for giving them anyway. If they didn't want to give them, good on steam for doing it anyway.

The game isn't that bad either way. It was buggy back at release, but it's gotten a lot better since then. It's just something that's needlessly complex. Sort of like rust. Tons of dead end features, but no more critical errors.
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Over 2 hours refunds were always a thing, which happened on a case to case basis.
But then again, people who buy the "early access survival crafting" shovelware in the first place don't deserve to be refunded.
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>>388711257
They didn't change anything, you're not supposed to be able to refund any game you've put more than 2 hours into, be it early access or not.
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>>388711257
No, the game was a new entry in steam, with a new ID, in that particular case the game was considering people who'd had the game for hundreds of hours as only having a few. They got refunds automatically, and not with any sort of account investigation.
I've gotten refunds with games that went full release from early access, and even major updates (hero siege) even with dozens of hours. This was still a bug. People would have gotten refunds, but exploiting this shit was pretty lame.
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>>388711091
>play game for 500 hours
>DUHHH YES I THINK THIS GAME IS UNSATISFACTORY *refund*

true neckbeardthink right here
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>>388711091
I never refunded it though.

It's actually a pretty nice game with friends.
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>>388711091
Nigga, fuck you if you think you deserve a refund for "unsatisfactory" gameplay after sinking 500 hours into it
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tfw I refunded Killing Floor 2 with 125 hours played
I would have been really fucking mad if I couldn't though because Tripwire ruined that game throughout its early access period.
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>>388711702
Agreed. I tried it recently after refunding it, on a friend's PS4, and it is a total fucking disaster.
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>>388711486
>People would have gotten refunds, but exploiting this shit was pretty lame.

how is that exploitation
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>>388711702
Same here, over 90h on KF2 and refunded it the moment I was able to
Fuck shitty devs
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>>388711762
Because people who'd actively been playing it hours before early access because they were horrendously addicted to it wouldn't have gotten a refund, but they did through exploitation of the system. It's just pretty gay. Steam's really bad about that in general though, not telling devs when they give their game a new ID from a major change, usually a total overhaul of the game engine.
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>>388711762
>put 1000 hours in a game
>refund it
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fuck i hope i can still refund dayz
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>>388711852
Early access is a scam and you should be able to refund at any point for any reason until release.
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y'all going to be the reason when the refunding-scheme is going to be restricted to be almost useless.
congrats.
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>people refunding kf2
>no one cares
>now everyone refunding shit twitchbait
>maximum damage control
Loving every kek.
>>388711869
>implying it will ever come out
Fucking epic.
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>>388711091
I put 200hours into ark in the first 2 weeks then never played it again, I got my refund accepted twice as they couldn't refund to my credit card as it had expired so I had to accept steam wallet funds.

there is no glitch, its quite clear in the wording, 2hours after release.
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>>388711091
Well I dunno I had about 5 hours in it and I got my refund
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>>388711869
>implying it will ever release
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>>388711897
You didn't have to play Early Access.
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I don't get how Early Access isn't counted as a pre-order or demo.

I guess the ability to refund would put some accountability on developers, and Steam isn't keen on this idea.
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>>388711897
pretty much, early access was meant to help devs make a good game, if they then take your money and produce a steaming pile of shit and release it, you should be able to get your money back as it isn't the product you paid for
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>>388712094
because people would abuse the everloving fuck out of it by renting a game, beating it or burning out on it, then refunding it at no cost to them, and a huge cost to steam/the developers to pay whatever fees might be incurred for the transfer of money both ways. The way the system is now, is pretty good.
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>>388712153
But, it's Early access, the whole point is the game isn't out.

You can't rent something that isn't out. That'd be like cancelling your pre-order for a movie after watching a trailer. The trailer isn't the finished movie, it's just a taste of it.
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>>388712225
but you can easily cancel a preorder. They allow you to do that even on steam, as many times as you want, no matter how long you've had it.
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>>388712153
you mean like people have been doing since the 80's and probably earlier with video and game rentals?

Shit my parents taught me that if i beat the game in less than a week I could take it back and get a new one for free.

but this isn't the same, as not giving you the product you paid for, early access is just giving the company money in good faith to help with development, if they break that faith you damn well should and do deserve a refund
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It's simple. If I get bored of a game, 1 hour or 1000 hours, they scammed me and it's my right as a customer and a gamer to get my money back. If they don't want to lose me, then keep me the fuck entertained. It's not hard.
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>>388711091
hhahaha killing floor 2 had the exact same situation with refunds but nobody gave a shit. Gaben just saw how much money he was losing and immediately "fixed" the "bug"
holy fuck these people are completely shameless
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>>388711654
t. consumer whore
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>>388712326

Yeah, but, if they decide to go Early Access rather than full release, you've just waived right to a pre-order goodbye because the game is "Released" now, even though we all know Early Access isn't release.

This happened with that shitty Atari Rollercoaster game, and Steam wouldn't honour refunds.
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>>388712346
I agree, and they do that, but they shouldn't, it's still exploitative.

But I agree, early access should have refunds when it goes full release, but it should require a look at the account in question, we have that capability now, why should someone who's put 40 hours into it over the last week get a refund?
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you people justifying this scheme are crazy as hell
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>>388712346
>and game rentals?
you do realise most game companies actually hated game rentals at first until they learned to work around them right?
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>>388711091
To be fair if you've got hundreds of hours and asking for a refund you're just being a cheap asshole.
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i would be playing ark right now if extinction servers were still popular enough to be fun.

The developers did add to much shit to the game though. advanced tribes are way to powerful now imo.
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>>388712431
So don't play a game you think is shit for more then 2 hours then.

It's not that hard.
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>>388712434
>Why should someone who's put 40 hours into it over the last week get a refund?

Because the developers mislead them with claims of things that would be in the final game and then aren't?
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>>388712361
>1000 hours
>scammed out of entertainment
nigga please
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>>388712487
so if they're still actively playing the game despite those shortcomings they deserve their money back?
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>>388711702
Game is probably in the best state it's ever been in though. "Wasted potential" is a better choice of words, with resources being wasted on a shitty PvP mode nobody wanted, a stupid resistances system that ended up being dialed way back, and leaving almost no room to develop another solid perk thus creating the dreaded Survivalist. Implementing a marketplace before release is kinda shitty too, though at least that one is harmless to gameplay.

I am fine with the game except for those shitty medic weapon designs but I kinda guess TWI got off more easily than they should have.
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>>388712487
>That WOULD be in the final game
So why aren't you waiting for the things you wanted in the game to be there before you bought the game?

Why are you even playing still playing when you realise they aren't there and not refunding straight away?
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>>388712541
If a chef promises you a 5 course meal, the first 2 are good, and the remaining 3 are literally a plate of shit, do you not think you should get a refund?
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>>388712595
If I eat it, no I won't get a refund nine times out of ten.
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>Perfect refund concept to oblige developers to produce a quality game and somewhat fix the awful concept of early access
People are actually arguing against this?
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>>388712518
>make a decent burger for 300 days
>make a shit burger suddenly the day after
>you don't deserve to get money back because you liked our burger before!
It goes each minute you enjoy. Not total minutes enjoyed. And it's my right to enjoy every minute without having to eat shit suddenly.
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>>388711418
>you're not supposed to be able to refund any game you've put more than 2 hours into, be it early access or not.
That's where you're wrong
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>>388712638
Why are you eating shit?
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>>388712717
I don't know, why are they?
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>>388712006
That wording is never used. You just made that up.
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>>388712595
Not if you chose to eat it

>>388712649
You don't get refunded for the other 300 burgers you retard
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>>388712642
People are used to corporate cocksucking.
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>>388712582
Nah fuck Tripwire. I don't care what they have done to the game since release, they had something like eighteen months in Early Access and they blew it entirely. Glad I refunded and I'm never giving that game yet another chance.
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>>388712346
Ah, the liberal parent teaching their fat future manchild about entitlement and that you should be free of consequences because poor babby was too busy doing research. No wonder this generation of pampered diapermales will be the fall.
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>>388712754
But I should be. They're paying my loyalty in burgers, and if they can't continue to make them, they've wasted my time and I deserve money back and take my important business elsewhere to deserving cooks.
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>>388712759
viva la revolucion
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>>388712754
But, I haven't chosen to eat it. They've presented two decent courses, promises the remaining 3 will be excellent, and proceed to produce a plate of turds.
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>tfw some anon posted this was possible yesterday and I got my refund 30 mins after requesting it

BASED ANON
FUCK YOU ARK
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>>388712889
No you fucking shouldn't you entitled idiot

You chose to eat those 300 burgers before, you get that money back for your first one you didn't like and nothing more.
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>>388711091
I understand arguing that in some cases 2 hours may not be enough, but if you seriously spent 500 hours on a game that's a bit excessive when it comes to demanding a refund.
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Why is it that entitled autists who think they "deserve" money back after hundreds of hours always end up with food analogies?

Do they think they should get their car refunded at full value after it's expected lifetime expires and it stops working?
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>>388711527
>Play a game for 500 hours
>an update breaks the game and devs refuse/can't fix it
like wow dude! how dare you even ask for refund! there's never a legitimate reason!
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>>388713000

It's more accurate that you're given a car to test drive, that test drive ends up lasting 500 hours because the car manufacturers are slow as shit, and then when the car finally does come out, it's missing 4 wheels, and the engine is a lawnmower engine and you can't get the money back due to the time they gave you to test drive.
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>>388713000
Depends on the car dealer promises, if it didn't fit them, then yes.
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>>388713058
>>an update breaks the game and devs refuse/can't fix it
OK then explain what Ark did that's close to this
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>>388713076
If you're test driving a car you haven't bought it yet.
in this case you have.
It's more like if you bought a car, took it home, then woke up and the dealership had taken the wheels off, poured sugar in your gas tank and cut your brakes.
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>>388712541
they aren't playing the game though, they are play testing an incomplete demo
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>>388713101
I don't think that is the argument you two anons were having silly
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>>388713101
They banned cheat engine. I'm not playing 20 hours just to get decent gear only to be killed in my sleep. That's fucking criminal. And nowhere do they say that you can't use cheat engine. That's false advertising. These fucks should get sued and their families raped and murdered
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>>388713204
>These fucks should get sued and their families raped and murdered

Whatever you say, Achmed.
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>>388711702
Still feels good. Fuck Tripwire.
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>>388713169
They're paying for the experience that was given to them at the time of purchase. They got that experience (or maybe not, in which case, they refunded it). Refunding it when they have several thousand hours is pretty nonsensical, but sure I can still understand that. What I don't understand or agree with is, and my whole argument has been about, is people who are/were STILL playing the game actively, but were getting burned out, and refunded it. It's retarded. That shouldn't happen.
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>>388712453
hundreds of hours in a game that's been in play testing for over 2 years, that's had multiple huge patches that alone would take hours just to test simply because of in game mechanics like timed taming and server wipes having to start fresh.

but none of that is relevant, you are playing a demo not the final product. Only hours on the final product matter.
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>>388713101
I was saying there are some cases where people have real valid reasons to ask for a refund even after hundreds of hours of playtime and I've even heard of cases where the game playtime keeps ticking even after you close it.
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>>388711091
There was a huge thing with KF2 refunds like a year ago, if it were a bug Valve would have fixed it. Even if it is a bug, if Valve didn't fix it after KF2, they aren't going to fix it now.

Whether or not they "fixed" it for Ark remains to see (anyone tried refunding in the last few hours?), but you can rest assured future games leaving EA will be refundable too.
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>>388711702
>buy digital deluxe
>play for over 100 hours
>get all items + even more goodies closer to release
>game releases
>refund and keep everything

Probably gonna re-buy when it drops to $5.
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>>388711091
Most likely ARK guys got scared shitless from the refund wave and begged Valve to help.
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Lets be fair 2hours isn't exactly a good measurement, I could make a game and on launch day make a 2hour long log in queue and announce server issues on twitter then everyone that bought the game and waited in a queue would be fucked instantly from a refund.
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>>388713584
it's 2 hours for the automatic refund. They'll look at your request with any amount of time, and if something like that happened they'd for sure offer refunds.
they did it for WarZ/infestation stories
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>>388711091
>bought for £9.99
>got dlc scorched earth free
>over 1000 hours of play time

Meh I got my moneys worth
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>>388713636
>it's 2 hours for the automatic refund. They'll look at your request with any amount of time, and if something like that happened they'd for sure offer refunds.
That's good then.
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>>388711737
Did the same on Xbox. Total joke of a game. Dlc in early access is a trend I hope never continues
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>>388711527
>>388711654
>>388711852
>>388711927
>>388712441
>>388712518
>>388712914
>>388713000
How does it feel that, after enjoying the game for 753 hours, with a simple press of a button, I took back my money because I so desired? There's nothing you can do about it, no amount of crying or screaming can stop me now, mine was a complete over these terrible developers and their drones.
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>>388713705
Yeah, they did that for me, I posted earlier in the thread about it, hero siege. It was a fun little diablo style game, go kill enemies, get loot, get to endgame, fight off massive waves of enemies, lots of enjoyable classes.

Then they updated it, removed all loot from the basic game, removed the story mode, and changed the endgame to be room based. It was fucking weird, and nobody liked it. I asked for a refund after not having touched it for about a year and a half, when refunds came out and they gave it to me in about 3 hours.

same shit for divinity OS, but that was because it refused to run on my machine even after I went through the proper channels, even replacing my GPU, I think it just didn't like my chinese knockoff hardware
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>>388713390
>anyone tried refunding in the last few hours?
I just tried again it wasn't working for me earlier
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>>388713738
Delet this
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Early Access games should have unlimited refund windows

There needs to be deterrents against lingering in that status for an eternity and behaving as if you're actually released

>A fucking expansion pack
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>>388714017
should be refundable after 2 years early shitshess regardless
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>Lemme just check out this Ark game on steam and see what the fuss is about
>Top review has 8400 hours, just short of 360 days
>Thumbs down
Jesus christ, I like the refund idea as insurance for early access games but holy fuck this is some autism.
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>>388714017
>>388714081
These
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>>388714017
Early Access shouldn't exist at all.
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>>388711091
Wait what if you play a game in offline mode in steam?
Does it still have a hidden counter even though it doesn't show it in your profile?
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>>388711091
>undone
what the fuck did he try to mean by that?
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>>388714125
in case of ark it's been around for years and there's been multiple updates that changed the game a lot.
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>>388712649
>food analogy

Colin Moriarty was right all along.
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>>388714125
>reading that review
that's kind of insane
his negatives are really weird too, I mean did he expect those early access servers to be around forever when they said they wouldn't?
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>>388714214
I'm not sure. But the counter has always been dodgy as fuck. I have hundreds of hours missing from some games when playing always online.
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>>388714125
Usually when that happens it's because the devs pulled some shitty tactic like selling a DLC during early access or closing servers and what not.
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>>388714125
I could see a thumbs down after 20-30 hours. but ok the same hand if you have 2k hours and 1990 hours in they fuck the game up on purpose they deserve the negative review then too. Also if there is a game breaking bug in an RPG that breaks saves/makes completion impossible. case by case basis
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>>388714271
>dlc during ea
What game did this?
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>>388714349
Ark.
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>>388714349
ARK did. The desert map is a dlc you have to buy
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>>388714349
a game with dinosaurs in it, just can't remember the name right now
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>>388714349
I don't know about DLC but Tripwire built a hat market for Killing Floor 2 like a year before it left early access and continued to add hats to it while the game went for months on end without content updates.
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>>388714374
>>388714385
>>388714390
doing something like that should reset the refund timer for all customers. I don't know why steam even gives developers that option. you could put a game in early access then "release" it but put everything added after early access including the ending as dlc. garage system
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>>388711091

I 'played' it for like 5 hours. All I did was try to get the fucker to run right, which it never did. After waiting for it to release, it still doesn't work right.

I haven't touched it since and thought I should get a refund for the game being so broken and garbage. Apparently Steam disagrees. This is why I don't buy Early Access games anymore.
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>>388711527
>like the game
>play the game
>pay a lot for ingame stuff
>devs start getting greedy, and making game worse and worse
There should be an option to get a full refund if you can prove that devs made the game substantially worse than it was when you started playing. Fuck Star Conflict
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>>388714408
PUBG is doing loot boxes too
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>>388714257
food is the one thing we all have in common, it's the best analogy.
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>>388714408
>>388714540
Basically steam has to be complicit in this shit and nothing but. They created this nonsense and developers are exploiting it as best they can. Game stability and content come 2nd or even 3rd.
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>>388711091
I've been trying to get a DayZ refund for like 2 years, i think it's the most warranted refund in all of Steam's catolog. i only have 12 hours on it, how do i make it happens boiz
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>>388711257
No, they did it because of Killing Floor 2
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>>388711930
>>388712037
I just googled, it's going into Beta really soon.
Finally,
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>>388711091
If you played like 500 hours, you clearly enjoyed the game and shouldn't refund in the first place.
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>>388714530
Then stop playing? You've already got your money's worth. Now you want to keep your cake and eat it?
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>>388713000
Post em!
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>>388711091
>early access
LMAO
I hope they go bankrupt
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managed to get my refund at 191 hours. I felt I should refund out of sheer principle that they didnt touch performance despite that being pretty much the main complaint and one of the reasons I didnt play even more.
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>Expecting a refund just because an early access game has finally "released."
Nothing changes from early access to release. The first day the game was available for early access is its release date. You only get one chance at a first impression.
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>>388713000
Actually we have some weird car loan system here in Britain where after several years you can just hand the keys back and the whole debt is called off. It's actually going to be what crashes out economy again, not whatever lefties meme about leaving the EU.
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>>388713738
I unironically felt a rush when refunding due to wielding power over the developers, to be honest.
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>>388713076
When you pay for a game on early access you're paying for the game as-is
No future updates are promised or guaranteed. You got what you paid for and have no right to bitch about it
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>>388715145
But I wanted to keep playing, not abandon it.
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>>388715151
What do I buy from my newfound riches, /v/?
inb4 PUBG
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early acces refund is going away no doubt about it
people are as scummy as companies are dunno why people think they arent

but its funny that this is just an endless cycle that we accept as normal and you should abuse it since theyll abuse you

better refund all the early access games while you can because you probably cant after this
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>>388711091
i can't wait til games all have 2 hour long trials until you get to the online stuff, it'll happen, trust me, we'll all be suckers.

Xenoverse almost got me there
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>>388715337
Same here. Too long have they oppressed us, so this is literally taking the fight back to the man! It's almost the same liberating freedom feeling I got when I renounced my Christianity and protested with my new friends against the churchcucks in my village till they shut down. Good riddance to both.
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>>388715394
better not buy early access at all
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>mfw I have never, ever bought early access survival shit
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Reminder that early access is supposed to be cheap to compensate the consumer for the risk and trouble of buying an unfinished game.
Early Access is not supposed to be preorders with beta access or an excuse to release buggy games.
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>>388715650
And here we are.
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felt good
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>mfw I didn't buy into ARK anyways
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>>388715805
>mfw my friends wanted me to play with them and tried to get me to buy it but I managed to convince them to buy it for me instead
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>>388715479
>this assmad over refunding a shit game
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>>388715792
qqqqqqqq
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>>388715930
>implying that's ironic sarcasm
This is the nu/v/.
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>>388711847
Sorry m8, I have no remorse refunding KF2 despite having 200 hours from the first few weeks of it.
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>>388711091
>Can't refund R6 Siege even though I have less than 2 hours played
lame
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>>388712143
Did you not see this?
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>>388711418
I tried to get a refund on DOW3 after 5 hours. I argued that it takes longer than 2 hours to fully understand an RTS and that even at 5 hours I was unsure but wabted a refund because I thought it was a bad game. They wouldnt let me.
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>>388712759
Well done, that's the risk of buying early access. Maybe next time you'll wait until the product is finished and you want it completely before you give it money?
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>>388716478
They are pretty stringent on 2 hours and 2 weeks purchase. It's a retarded window when for almost 2 decades you had a 90 day window to refund normal games.
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>>388715548
I only ever bought DayZ as early access survival shit, but I can at least say I've never ever bought any anime game and never will
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I've been wanting a refund for this shitty game since I first got it, but even demoing it takes more than 2 hours minimum so I was waiting for it to leave EA so I could get a full refund. Fuck steam it gets more anti consumer every month
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Can someone tell me why exactly people are shitting on ARK right now?
I haven't played the game in months but last time I did it was pretty fun.
Did they change something on release day?
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>>388711702
that was a big mistake my lad, your now on their "list"
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>>388717219
its been shit since release

it JUST left EA today
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post yfw your refund came through
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>60 bucks
>67% rating
ded gayme
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>>388717579
Im gonna keep trying
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>>388717697
Just set the reason to "it changed too much" or "it wasn't what was promised".
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sent in my refund request with a complaint about not getting what the developer promised
wish me luck lads
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>>388717219
With each new update, mega tribes become more and more powerful and it becomes more and more difficult to compete. The last thing I remember was devs adding yet another higher level of technology to make the gap from end game to early game that much wider. That's when I stopped playing.
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>>388717832
that wasnt an option but if this fails Ill try again
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>>388716226
thats pretty much what killed EA but since people never read its gonna take a while before it makes the rounds
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>>388717895
I installed ark with the hopes of being able to get resources to build a fancy high tech underwater base, and they finally add it like 3 years later, but literally only the most autistic mega tribe clans will even have a chance to build 1 of the materials needed to build it. They even made it a complete clusterfuck so you can't just spawn it in either.
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>>388716226
nowhere in it does it say that the developer is not liable to deliver upon promises of content or fixes to the game they explicitly promise to do
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>>388717579
>playing this shit game in the first place
Looks like you're the real loser here
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>>388718015
>not playing the game and having your money too
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>>388717992
Yeah, I play a bit of solo and the one fucking option there's no way to change without mods is how many engram points you get on level up. That says a lot.
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>>388718015
I had a lot of fun driving the hacking/cheating chinks off servers together with /vg/.

I've been out of it for too long now though.
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>>388717697
yes do what this anon said >>388717832
it worked for me. I just typed "other reason" and elaborated about how the early access is now over and the finished product does not equal with what I was expecting it to be etc. I just said the dev didn't deliever on their promises without actually having shown any proof, worked out anyway
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>>388717895
oh, yeah thats pretty shit
though me and my pal had fun making hideous characters who had high speed and melee damage
we would zoom around this one autistic group of faggots in particular, we'd just punch them and run away while they struggled to keep up with us on their dinos
we managed to kill them once just by zooming around and punching them until they got knocked out
this was before they added those gay power suits though
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>>388711091
>actually getting your money back is a crime and should be undone by steam if you ask me
get fucked, you piece of shit. the game's been released but it's not fixed the piss-poor optimisation, it's still buggy as fuck and it has a shitty overpriced as fuck season pass that includes content that you had to pay for in EARLY FUCKING ACCESS WHERE THE GAME WASN'T EVEN FUCKING FINISHED.
FUCK YOU, YOU AUTISTIC SHITHEAD.
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reminder to leave a negative review before you get your refunds
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>>388717465
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>>388711418
Not true, I've refunded a few early access games that came out and had way more than two hours on them
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>get refund on game
>can't refund scorched scam
Feels bad man.
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>>388718940
your fault for buying goyimbo
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>>388714125
I put 500 hours into ARK and left a negative review.

It's simple really. I got ARK when it was first released and had a fucking blast playing with /vg/. There were issues sure, but generally the game was improving and there was a sense of optimism. Then, as time went by, they began taking the game in a worse and worse direction. They were prioritizing shitty gimmick events rather than working on meaningful additions to the game. The grind only got longer and balance only became worse.

So ya, I left a negative review after 500 hours.
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>>388719532
>They were prioritizing shitty gimmick events rather than working on meaningful additions to the game


welcome to the problem with all modern online games
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>>388719532
Also selling DLC on an Early Access game is dirty tactics
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>>388719623
Honestly I wasn't even all that upset about it. Yes, DLC for an EA game is shitty, but at least Scorched Earth was legitimately good DLC.
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>>388719681
wrong
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>>388712582
>>388712768
What's wrong with the game currently?
I have not been playing it for months because I'm abroad without my vidya computer.
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>>388719681
lol
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>>388711091
I have played like 3 hours of this game but it seems like every other day I get a 500mb to 1.5 gig update for this flaming piece of shit.
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>>388714408
Daily reminder Tripwire ditched Martial Artist class even though it was going to be released just because they could not MAKE IT IN TIME FOR THE FUCKING SO CALLED FULL RELEASE
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>>388719813
Huuuuuuge power gap that devs insist on widening. It's only possible for megatribes to do anything. Shitty optimization
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>>388715792
Long Dark is great though and probably the only good early access survival along with The Forest
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>>388720001
Yeah, tripwire is fucking scum. They have more broken promises than any company I've seen in history, and their only excuse is incompetence. Glad I refunded that and lad Vietnam is dying.
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>>388720017
Which perks are that broken right now?
I only know Demo, Sharpshooter and Gunslinger were OP from the start
>>388720091
The most annoying thing for me, even more annoying than the hats were they goddamn ditched Harry Enfield's voice and the slutty trader
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>>388720182
Oh shit, sorry, I thought you were talking about ARK. I haven't played KF2 in long enough to know what balance issues exist, but I guarantee you they're there. I refunded KF2 because TW is the shittiest, lying-est company I've ever seen.
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>people gloating about the fact that the played the ark for hundreds of hours and got a refund

you played the ark for hundreds of hours, I don't think I would spend that much time on a shitty early access game like the ark for a mere $30
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>>388720540
literally buyers remorse
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>>388714970
Pft, I have 47 mins in Stellaris, I didnt like it. Tried to refund it 5 times but it was weeks late (couldnt tried it sooner because of personal problems) they dont want to give me my money back, fucking 47 minutes.
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>>388713204
Admin commands retard, alternatively increase rates for harvesting/taming
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yo /v/ what did you buy from your refund shekkels?
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>>388717579
Felt good 2bh
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>>388721197
Still deciding. I'm considering Sonic Mania, but I think I'll hold off until Spooktober and grab The Evil Within if it goes on sale again.
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>>388718225
well i tried this now
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>>388718526
no more refunds boy
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>>388722182
good luck anon!
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>>388713000

Is this you?
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>>388724101
>It's has been very low on bugs/glitches, well optimized and generally well designed
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do this all the time with consoles after 24-48 hours played by reselling on craigslist. haha musturds
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>>388711418
I refunded KF2 and bought it cheaper from G2A Digital Deluxe edition
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>>388715151
I never bought this piece of shit!
>>
JUSST
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>>388724101
>you foul little creature

who talks like this? is this satire?
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>>388725425
>who talks like this?

Reddit
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>there are people who buy games
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>>388725621
IKR
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>>388725425
I do, you foul little creature
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>>388724101
>stealing money back

they stole it first to begin with, i have all right to steal the money back.
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ITS MY MONEY AND I WANT IT NOW
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>>388726174
its not really your money any more, more like a coupon for one store
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>>388711091
Welp, just tried and the refund got denied. Good thing it was actually gifted to me, but sucks for my bud wasting his money

100$ for the full game. I hope they fucking bomb
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>>388711091
After reading some replies I am confused.
If a game leaves EA, it doesn't reset the refund eligibility anymore?
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>>388724101
1 Quetzal kibble has been deposited into your account
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>>388718376
>penis villager
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>>388726287

who cares i was probably going to spend 25 bucks on steam later in life anyway.
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>>388717895
>mega tribes become more and more powerful

can confirm. we had such an iron grip over server 16 that no one else on the server even had electricity.
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>>388711091
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>>388711091
So
For those here unaware of, wildcard has promised the new servers and clusters added after launch would be free of exploits like Duping, DDoS, undermeshing and other bs.

Expect the drama after ppl that have migrated to new servers find out that it was all lies.
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>>388720017
>so you fucking sucking at the game means the devs should wipe alphas?


rofl brother. get better at the game
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So, how can i make this with KF2 and DayZ?
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>got my PUBG refund without issue
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>>388727698
dumb hamster poster
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>>388712951
What is all the hate with ARK?

Did they change something so major that the game is shit now? I haven't played since they added beavers to the game.
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>>388727698
smart hamster poster
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>beta bitch for 1000 hours
at least i got my $40 back!
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>i-i-it was a bug with the playtimes!
>you shouldn't be allowed to refund it!
I hope they get paid to damage control, I sure wouldn't do it for free.
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My refund got accepted, but the money is still pending.
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>>388711091
When will they create a company that is paid via crowdfunding to create mods for video games? Modware Inc. or something.
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>>388711091
Did that for Killing Floor 2 the moment i saw the jewish ruining everything on early access already.
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>pre-purchase a game
>not even Early Access
>game gets delayed for "optimization"
>they add Denuvo and fix nothing
>give out a fucking ROM as an apology for the delay
>Steam rejects all refunds despite their refund policy
Can we just admit that Steam is no longer fit for purpose and that the kik- publishers won?
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>>388712346

>Shit my parents taught me that if i beat the game in less than a week I could take it back and get a new one for free.

Is this how speedrunners were born? Everything makes so much sense now. Holy shit, the key to autism and trannies was bad parenting all along.
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>>388728759
KEK
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>>388711091
So this means Garry Jewman can safely release RUST
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