Half Life

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>>388681095

Did you forget the part where he went to Xen and killed Nihiliath?

>>388681202
How the fuck would a bunch of civilians 30 years later know about that?

>>388681202
You mean the thing no one else knew about?

>>388681095
barney, eli vance and dr. kleiner all survived the black mesa incident and knew freeman
in fact, all three of them are based on generic character models from the first game (although barney ended up getting his own expansion)
last time freeman was seen, he was going into a portal to an alien world and disappeared for like 20 years
him surviving and coming back (without having aged a single day) is kind of a big deal

>>388681338
speech

>>388681405
Which generic scientists are supposed to be Eli and Kleiner?

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>>388681609
Generic black scientist and generic white scientist

>>388681609
Eli - black scientist
Kleiner - glasses scientist

Come on anon

>>388681402
play the game

>>388681763
>>388681698
I meant which specific npcs

>>388681852
eli is the one at the very start telling you to go to the surface and let someone they're stranded down there

>>388681609
i don't think anyone has ever said which ones specifically are eli and kleiner, i'd give my own opinion but i haven't played the game in years so i don't really remember
i'd guess at least one of them would be one of the ones who sent him through the teleporter to xen

It's an anonymous imageboard. You don't need to try so hard to fit in.

>>388681852
Eli references being one of the NPCs in the first game when you meet him, I forget the exact line but "Last time I saw you, it was sending you for help after the resonance cascade". I'm too lazy to look up a youtube video of it

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>>388681095
>is a literal who grunt
>all of his buddies as well as plenty of science team members who weren't killed escape without being silenced
>xen aliens still running amok even after black mesa's destruction and the world gets taken over by the combine shortly after
>G-Man still takes an interest in him and puts shephard into suspension since he might tell people about black mesa

explain

>>388681095
Because Opposing Force isn't cannon. Also, G-man shenanigans.

>>388681095
Although its stated that escapees that aren't Gman protected (Alyx, Gordon, Adrian, probably Eli too) were all hunted down and murdered by the government, Barney wasn't associated with Gman at all and he just drove the fuck out with some other scientists, thus it's not impossible that more (out of the thousands of Black Mesa employees) got out

Gordon was the one who kicked it all off, and he saved a TON of peoples' lives on his way through BMRF especially with the way he basically carved a path straight through soldiers and aliens which means people he didn't even directly save would have been able to make their way out of the facility just because the path is clear and there's less soldiers locking the place down. To the survivors of Black Mesa, many of not most would owe everything to what Gordon did, so his legend would have probably been passed between those who stayed in contact. Not to mention his actions had an irreparable effect on the entire world as a whole

>>388681849
yep no one else even knew about him

>>388682059
Not canon.

Is Blue Shift canon?

>>388682085
Good point, man. A real exodus.

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QUICK, /v/

Which one was the better game?

>>388682059
Gman was interested in him from the beginning. Did you pay attention to the intro? He was cultivated by Gman just like Gordon was, and kept around because he's an unstoppable force of death.

Barney is the only protag who survived Black Mesa entirely through his own merit alone. AND he survived the government cleanup squads that went after the rest of the survivors too

>>388682282
are you fucking kidding

HL>OpFor>Blue Shift

Didn't the special forces units start trying to kill gordan, specifically? Wasn't there graffiti that called him out by name?

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>>388682059
>He thinks Shepard got put into stasis to prevent him from talking about Black Mesa. Lmao. Play the game.

>>388681095
>Everyone gets nuked
Did you forget about the fact that GMAN saved most of the Black Mesa survivors? Except for those who escaped by their own means like Barney and some professors. By the way it was GMAN who nuked Black Mesa to prevent the Combine from getting their teleportation technology. Read more here before coming here and acting dumb.
http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:I_think_I_know_why_the_G-Man_nuked_Black_Mesa
Pic related.

>>388682343

>HL better than OpFor

You best be kiddin' me, nigga.

HL has too many boring areas and long crawling sections.

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>>388681609
First and third one, respectively

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So when and why did valve update the security guard model? It looks pretty out of place since nearly everything else is still 1998 quality.

>>388682473
>By the way it was GMAN who nuked Black Mesa
It was the SpecOps, Gman only reactivated the bomb after you deactivated it.

>>388682282
Op4 no contest.

None of them sucked, though

>>388682420
Yeah, but forget about freeman, he's not important anymore

:^(

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>this is canon

Marc you cheeky bitch, I love you

>>388682476
I'm not. Just replayed them back to back. Longer, more varied, better level design and much more natural progression. OpFor's idea of progression and environmental puzzles is shooting the powerbox above the electrified water or escorting the medic to the engineer then walking the engineer to the door to go on.

OpFor is godlike, but gearbox did not make a better shooter than valve

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>>388682563
>G-Man activates a bomb that would have otherwise been left dormant
>G-Man didn't nuke Black Mesa

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>>388681609

Eli and Kleiner are the ones who are canonically seen speaking to G-Man at HL's beggining.

>>388682473
expansions are non canon black mesa is not nuked

I just started OpFor, how come the military was looking for Freeman specifically? One of the soldiers was bullying a scientist and demanding him for Freeman's current location.

>>388682620
oh and not to mention its plot setup. HL starts as trying to escape but slowly becomes clear scientists need you at lamda complex, then on the way you do a couple things to set up their plan, finally arrive and realize what the interdimensional horror is and go kill it. OpFor is confused, you're just trying to escape the whole time and then you encounter a security guard in a warehouse who tells you theres a huge monster downstairs. You fight it and it ends.

Its very odd and abrupt like they ran out of time

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>>388681609
>>388682723

Here is Kleiner.

>>388682726
YES! YES!!!!!

>>388681095
>explain

Half Life 2 story isn't very good and it just makes up a bunch of shit that had little to do with the first one. Most of the characters are retconned

>>388682737
Proofs????

>>388682790
If there's a guy single-handedly taking out all of your soldiers, you learn his name real quick.

>>388682774
Because freeman killed a bunch of soldiers, did you even play the game?

>>388682726

Hmmmm... more.

>>388682726
god I love shad for his antics

>>388681338
vortigaunts told them

>>388682807
>>388682723
You never have any contect of note with them and it's impossible for Gordon to be the only person to have done what Gordon did

>>388682865
?

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>>388682726

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>>388682726
Shad really never did have an iota of talent, did he.

>>388682953
>it's impossible for Gordon to be the only person to have done what Gordon did

yes its impossible for gordon to be the 1 person who was involved in actually executing the gruntwork of the resonance cascade experiment

evne though the game directly leads you through this as the player agent

>>388682164
>yep no one else even knew about him

The Vortigaunts know about Freeeman, and they allied themselves with the resistance.

>>388683205
For all they know, he was just trying murder them.

>>388682493
Blue shift. They also updated the first-person and third-person gun models. I can't remember 100%, but I'm pretty sure it carried over to Opposing Force.

Back in the day, you'd have to copy them over to your HL1 folder and replace the defaults with the new ones you got from Blue Shift. I think they normalized it once Steam came out, provided you had a Blue Shift key. The funny thing was that Blue Shift didn't come out on Steam until like '05 or '06, but OpForce was on there from the start.

>>388683286
holy fuck play the games

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>>388682861
The writers for OpFor, Blueshift and Decay are all Gearbox employers, there was also a tweet of Laidlaw saying Shepard was Gearbox problem.

>>388683350
I mean in the context of Half Life 1, not Half Life 2.

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>>388682726

>>388681698
>>388681763
>black scientist

WE

>>388683063
How can you fuck up basic perspective like that?
what a loser

>>388681095

How did the guy remember you blew up his lunch in Half Life 1 when you meet up with him in HL2 again?

>>388682737
apparently laidlaw had a forum post saying the nuke exploding is canon http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/Mark_IV_Thermonuclear_Device#cite_ref-canon_0-0

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>>388682726
>anal
Anal is for faggots and faggots in denial.
Prove me wrong (you can't).

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>>388681852
>>388682016
This is Eli. He sends you for help after the console explodes and injures one of the Einstein looking fuckers.

As for Kleiner, I think he's the NPC that's in the "weapon room" where you get your weapons and such before going to Zen and who powers up the massive Zen teleporter but I'm not sure

>>388683621
She meant her vagina. Her vagina isn't pregnant, her uterus is.

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>>388683063
>that window stuck behind the stairs


Kek, what a retard

>>388683286

The Vortigaunts resent Gordon for killing so many of them, but also hold him as their liberator, all this shit is in the games.

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>>388683063

>>388682737
>>388683602
found his quote

>There was pressure on us to set Half-Life 2 at Black Mesa, which a lot of us felt would be creative death; it was important to break new ground. Nuking Black Mesa was a good way to ensure that we had a way to avoid setting Half-Life 2 there. You might say I gave the G-Man his orders.

>>388683974
Someone literally painted that window, started painting the stairs, realized the stairs were going to pass over the window, and said "yeah, this is fine".

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>>388683063
>tiny stairs
>leading to a giant door

If you give me a time machine, I'll go back in time and manage to be in the jury that decided to refuse him. Then I'll refuse him again, and laugh in his face while singing some jewish songs. because he's so bad he deserves this.

>>388684293

>Someone

see >>388684094 for an image of that someone
its no wonder his art school application got denied

>>388684293
Yeah, that artist is literally Hitler

>>388684552
Ya got a chuckle out of my, laddie.

>>388684552
except it's not because this is just some random picture that's been passed through a modern image program filter

ITT : Reddit

>>388683304
>The funny thing was that Blue Shift didn't come out on Steam until like '05 or '06,
Not remotely true. I had the half life platinum collection and the cd key for that gave you blue shift on steam as early as 04.

Doesn't G-Man just stand for government man? I figured he was supposed to be some sort of high level person in the government, but without an official position or anything, like the cigarette smoking man from X-Files.
It doesn't make sense that he'd be an alien.

>>388685192
he's an avatar of someone who runs the simulation that hl universe takes place in

the conflcit is being staged to see if either party invents technology that is higher than technology in the host universe, which is a possibility

>>388685192
So many people haven't played the game

>>388681402
>we believe the portals are being held open by an otherworldly force

One of the scientists says this to you before he sends you into the portal of Xen.

>>388682482
>black face
>white hands

>>388685192
>implying the gubmint ain't run by aliens

>>388681405
Also Mossman and Magnesson, OP really had no ground to stand on.

>>388685170
>Not remotely true.
But I'm right.

http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/Half-Life:_Blue_Shift
>On August 24, 2005, Blue Shift became available for download via the Steam content delivery program.

I remember because you could play everything BUT Blue Shift on the platinum pack back when steam came out, but every CD key would unlock the plat pack on any given steam account, except blue shift.

I had to explain to everyone in my vent why this shit was so cool at the time and it got them into the HL storyline and away from CS for a couple of hours. :( I KNOW I'M RIGHT.

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>>388685192
>I figured he was supposed to be some sort of high level person in the government
He was but his role changed. Pic related was the inside of his suitcase in early models but it was cut from the final version.

>>388685730
>Pic related was the inside of his suitcase in early models but it was cut from the final version.
It's in the final game, though. You just have to clip into him to see it.

>>388682059
Gearbox

>>388685730
Damn, he got THREE pencils, guy's serious business.

i had the ps2 version which had a two player coop story. I think breen was in it

>>388685813
Something related to it was cut from the final version. I think there was an animation of him opening it.

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>>388685910

>>388685941
Breen is not in a wheel chair dude

>>388685192
He was, G-Man is literaly Goverment Man.
HL2 is the one who stabilized him as an ayylmao.

>>388686157
>HL2 is the one who stabilized him as an ayylmao.
>not the end of HL1 where he teleports you around

>>388686261
these threads are full of anons who've never played the game

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>>388685636

>>388686261
If you didn't noticed, Black Mesa is literally a goverment installation working on teleportation technology.

>>388686080
fuck i dunno. you tell me

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Hold the fucking phone a minute
How could Barney say "About that beer I owed ya" in Half-Life 2 if Barney never met Gordon in Half Life 1?

>>388682059
He wasn't at first but as the game goes on he becomes enamored by Shephard's ability to adapt and survive. It's the same reason he takes an interest in Gordon.

They're incredible people that can alter history if put at the right moment. Humanity is just a pawn between 2 otherworldly forces, Gman works for one, the combine are the other. Humanity is just part of a proxy war for these two societies and people like Gordon and Shephard can further enable it.

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>>388686342
It's related to when you registered the key. It still wasn't playable on the old client.

>>388686612
Cloning the barney you played as died in a car crash, thats why those scientists are not seen again

>>388682612
is deathmatch classic good

>>388686457
He also states in HL1 he confiscated your weapons "Since they are after all government property."

>>388686342
http://store.steampowered.com/news/436

Okay, will this update from Valve themselves settle this? I don't even know how I got so 'tistic over this shit.

>>388686612
Half Life is written as it goes along. They have no actual plot other than maybe the absolute end game, they've just been making shit up. Anyone that seriously thinks they really wrote all this shit out in the 90s at one time is retarded. Like most games they made it up as they go along.

I don't give a fuck if it's oficially canon or not.

For me Op4 and Blue Shift ARE canon.

>>388686846
Do you like Doom multiplayer? If yes, then you will like Deathmatch Classic.

>>388683641
Kleiner is the one in the weapon room. He points a shotgun at you through the doorway when you try to enter, this is referenced by him doing the same thing when you teleport back to his lab in Half-Life 2

>>388687036
He also says "Xen borderworld is now under our control" which isn't mentioned at all in HL2

>>388686612
Isn't he the one that asks you if you want to grab a beer after work in the first part of hl1?

>>388681095
>Somehow people know about him and his shenanigans 20+ years later
i mean...no.

breen finds out, or rediscovers rather, about freeman through him slaughtering combine all through the canal route. then decides to do a mass broadcast about your identity.

before that, you were just another face walking through city 17, until you conveniently met up with your old friend from black mesa :^)

did you play the game?

>>388687219
Oh yeah your right, i never noticed that before

>>388687282
Not according to Blue Shift.

>>388681852
On top of what the other anons said, they intentionally fudge it a bit. There weren't really distinct scientist characters in the first game.

>>388687679
NOT - CANON
i still don't get it

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>>388687179
Technicaly there is no such thing as cannon as marc laidlaw said, so wait does this mean that his letter is technicaly not cannon if nothing ic cannon? Or does nothing being cannon make every thing you want to be cannon being cannon.

>>388687871
They don't care, they made it up as they went along and don't even bother going back to make sure dialogue matches their own game history. They make it up as they go along. There's no fucking way Gabe back in 1998 said "I'm going to write a sci fi shooter game where in the end a guy looks at a Dyson sphere".

They cut shit all the time, so much so they released a fucking book about it which didn't even cover everything they cut. They write it as they go along.

>>388681609
Eli is the guy who sends Gordon to the surface right after the resonance cascade, Kliener could be anyone really, but likely some Lambda complex employee.

>>388687871

I mean everyone, even Valve themselves didn't really bothered much with the fact of their expansions being canon or not.

It's really annoying how faggots here keep shoting >hurr it's not canon, in the discussions.

>>388681095
now that hl finished

i still wanna know what happened to everyone else in half life decay

>>388687219
>>388688093
Here you go anon

>>388682282

opfor was the best game ever, are you kidding?

>>388686612
The named characters in HL2 are amalgamations of the various NPCs from HL1. A barney in HL1 mentions a beer.

>>388681852
Eli is the one that sends you to the surface.

Kleiner is the other scientist in the same room with him.

>>388688328

On Op4 you can find Gina's body in Xen if you use the teleporter gun at a certain point of the game. Prolly same with Green.

Wheelchair guy and Dr. Reisenberg, nobody knows.

>>388687812
Gordon is a petty gambler, and many different security guards owe him beer

>>388685408
Holy shit

>>388687871
The series as a whole is basically cool ideas strung together and loosely related to each other. They had a cool idea for a game about escaping a research facility during an alien invasion. That was Half-Life. They had a cool idea about fighting for the resistance in a world where humanity had fought and lost against aliens decades ago, that was Half-Life 2. They had a cool idea for a puzzle game involving portals, that was Portal. They're technically in the same setting and share continuity, but there's not much in the way of real relations.

>>388682953
eli says he made a deal with gman to save his daughter nitwitt

>>388688675
Oh wow thats depressing, some one as stong as all the others fell in a portal and drowned, they are all probably dead, either by alien or by nuke.

>>388683578
You don't forget that. It was the last decent meal he would've had, and some asshole in a ponytail runs up and fucks with the microwave to ruin it. And then the day gets even worse.

>>388689089

My bad, Dr. Reisenberg actually escapes with Barney. The rest is prolly dead tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qqakvhwMTE

>>388689195
Well if you payed any attention in ep 2 you would know that it was magnasons casorole, and he did forgive you for it.

>>388689315
He forgave because he didn't have a choice. He didn't forget.

>>388681095
Protip: Gordon Freeman freed the Vortigaunts in HL2. The Vortigaunts are part of the Resistance.

>>388689507
what the fuck nigger he freed them in the first one

>>388689302
>Hair colour of one, HEV suit colour of the other

>>388689678
Oh yea, made a typo. Yea he frees them from the Nihilanth.

>>388681338
20 years later.

>>388682612
How did he canonize it, exactly? Deathmatch was before my time as a PC player so I haven't played it.

>>388689806

Could be Colette.

>>388690136
It was made before Decay.

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>>388685192
Hi, Cave Johnson here.
Oh and also chariots chariots chariots

>>388690369

Aren't they from the same year?

>>388683304
Blue-Shift being added to steam didn't initially put the update through.
They can be disabled by unchecking "use HD models where available" in the grafix menu.

>>388690519
Op4 was two years before Decay.

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>>388682612
>this one fucker keeps posting this

Every. Fucking. Thread.

>>388690642

Oh ok.

Still, pretty interesting knowing the fate of at least one of the girls.

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>>388682726

>>388687190
>Doom multiplayer
It's just Quake MP remade on goldsrc.

>>388690390
YOU WON'T FOOL ME, EVIL CAVE

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Could someone explain me this photo and why you find it in Kleiner's lab?

>>388691284

Guy's marked is Breen.

>>388690950
It's hard to know for sure with all the retcons.

>>388691284
Just a photo of the team that Gordon, Kleiner and Eli worked with. Guy with crossed out face is probably Breen.

>>388691493

What retcons?

>>388681609
Magnusson from Episode 2 is the guy who has the souffle you ruin.

>>388691543
gina and colette looking completely different in decay including the suit color of the corpse in op4
colette not even existing before decay

>>388691642

Oh yeah true.

But Gina and Colette models existed since HL1, but only in Multiplayer.

>>388682726
>Eli fern
It's the little things, Shad's art kinda sucks but that was funny.

They're waiting for you Gordon. In the test chamburrr.

>>388691543
Valve was buuhurt from whole Race X thing so they retcon them

>>388686846
its Quake 1 DM but on goldsrc

>>388691751
Gina was the only one, she was in the hazard course too. They redid her model for Decay and Colette was a new character.

>>388691284
Always thought this was a really effective example of "show, don't tell"

>>388691964
What are you doing!?

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>>388692080

Some of Decay's notes about other characters are pretty good desu. They explain some stuff here and there.

There's also Shephard's diary.

>>388681338
>Eli
>Kleiner
>Vortigaunts
>Barney
>Magnusson
>Other scientists

>>388681095
>people still think Half-Life 1 was Gordon's first day at Black Mesa
Where did that notion even come from?

>>388693095
Probably from things like Gordon not having proper clearance yet.

>>388683529
There actually are black scientists, anon.

>>388693252
He had a well stocked locker

>>388693252
They had a system crash and Gordon was late.

>>388693252
That nigga was just late for job

>>388693091
Plus the world was talking about the Black Mesa incident for the next decade. When shit went downhill so fast after that it's natural that people would grasp onto the one hero in all that mess.

>>388685408
They're gloves. Scientists wear gloves.

>>388682493
If you use the HD models you deserve death.

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As far as combat goes what would you actually like to see in a new HL?

>Dedicated grenade throw, as opposed to switching to the grenade "weapon"
>Going off that, maybe different grenades
>Reintroduction of the long jump or something for more height/verticality possibilities
>Locational damage for enemies

>>388693797
>Dedicated grenade throw, as opposed to switching to the grenade "weapon"
Gay.

>>388681338
In case you haven't played Half-Life, you fucking numb skull, once Nihilanth was killed, all the alien slave Vortigaunts were freed from their collars. Since they made it to Half-Life 2, clearly they shared bed time stories with the resistance.

>>388693939
What fucking problem could you have with that?

>take generic npc's that you have a basic interaction with
>put them in the sequel and act like they personally know the protagonist outside of those interactions

explain

>>388693939
How about instead there's a button to switch to the grenade while it's held down and switch back when you release it, without messing with your quickswap?

>>388681609
The very first blackie you see after shit went down, who you need for the retina, is Eli. He tells you to reach the surface.

The people leading the Resistance were fellow survivors who saw him jump in the portal to Xen you stupid nigger. The scientists in HL1 expressly help Gordon get to Xen for the last 1/3rd of the game.

>>388691284
Where is Dr. Magnusson?

>>388693980
I prefer having control over my grenades. Cooking, force, overhand or underhand.

>>388693486
>Plus the world was talking about the Black Mesa incident for the next decade
Were they? I thought the government successfully covered it up, not that it matters, considering.

>>388693980
>>388694089
Equipping it gives you the option of throwing or rolling it, which you can't really do with just having it as a hotkey

also it just encourages grenade spam having them so readily available, rather than just having it to flush enemies out and switch back to your previous weapon

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Just finished playing through the entire series for the god knows how many-th time, ask me anything.

Ep2 > Ep1 = OpFor > HL1 > HL2 > BS

Note that things on the far right are still really fucking good.

>>388694262
>which you can't really do with just having it as a hotkey
You can if it's not just a "hit g to spam grenades for easy kills" button. Make it still a weapon, with a hotkey to temporarily switch to it. Less of a hassle to use, doesn't change anything for people who don't like it. Only problem is kids will think the button doesn't work and whine about it.

>>388694329
What do you like about EP1? It never grabbed me.

>>388694431
But we already have a button to switch to grenades. What is the advantage?

>>388682928
>>388693091
>>388693486
But wouldn't they hate freeman cause his actions let the Combine to cross over and enslave thwm all?

>>388694549
More than one person has mentioned it not impacting your quick swap set.
It's a minor complaint but I get it.

>>388694453
Obligatory elevator holdout fight, the hospital part, Alyx being a useful and non-annoying sidekick, Valve finally figuring out the proper amount of rubble and debris and gravity gun-able objects to sprinkle around so it's an actually viable weapon instead of a glorified puzzle solver, it's tight, fast paced, short enough that it never drags (except maybe the GO AND GRAB ANOTHER GROUP, GORDON part) and is just overall great across the board. There's no part where I go "aw shit, not this place".

>>388694220
What government? You mean the one that exists solely because of the Black Mesa incident?

>>388694627
>More than one person has mentioned it not impacting your quick swap set.
Literally dad's-first-time-playing-video-games-tier

>>388694687
>Obligatory elevator holdout fight

those are the worst though.

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>>388687190
>Doom multiplayer
I'll let you off this one time and assume you meant to type "Deathmatch Classic is Quake 1 multiplayer remade in Goldsource." Along with Quake 1 MP, Valve also brought Team Fortress to Goldsource.

>>388691284
Every time I see that image it reminds of this video.

>>388694576
No, he saved himself, others, and defeated the first invasion of Earth from Xen. That's what people remember. It's not his fault something even worse eventually came along.

>>388694576
No, they like him because he freed them from the nihilanth who was enslaving them
He's not off the hook entirely though, because one of them in 2 says that they cannot forgive him for causing the death of its brethren, because forgiveness isn't theirs to give

>>388692779
Did we ever find out who "LM" was?

>>388694753
HL is a lot more fun when you switch between weapons as the situation needs it.

>>388694815
Forgot link
https://youtu.be/L0vkNn7Lcps

>>388694749
No, the one that shoots at you in the first game. I know not all of the scientists died but do we actually know the word got out about Black Mesa, before the 7 hour war?

I mean if I were Eli or Kleiner I'd keep my mouth shut.

>>388694848
Laidlaw Marc

>>388694830
Well yeah the vortigaunts are happy but i mean the humans, if i was emslaved tomorrow and heard it was because some dude killed a alien i wouldn't like that guy

>>388692779
>milf dream team lost to time
I really hope they didn't just die somewhere in xen like op4 implies.

>>388694787
Yeah but it was in the dark and they gave you a ton of explosive shit and flares, setting zombies on fire and using their burning corpses for illumination while you recharged your flashlight was the shit. It was enough of a twist on the usual formula of "fight off horde while waiting for very slow elevator" gimmick that it was fresh and fun. Still holds up, too.

>piling up a huge supply of explosives and cinderblocks to save ammo
>that panic when a barrel blows up too soon and sets off the whole stockpile
>picking my physicsfu radiator to toss around and then panicking when it gets lost too far away in the darkness

>>388694917
Was Breen ever said to be an asshole or in any way antagonistic before the combine showed up?

>>388694991
It wasn't really his fault though. The Nihilanth was launching a full invasion with its monster aliens, and it had to be stopped too. If it had chilled the fuck out for a five seconds Freeman wouldn't have had to kill it

>>388694943
At what point playing through Half-Life 2 did you think that cover up was successful?

>>388695135
They haven't really said much about him then.

this thread is the biggest clusterfuck of retards i've ever seen in a thread on /v/. stfu and go play hl1

Hl2 and episodes never had the same effect on me as Hl1 did. The story was weaker, more bizarre and felt more scripted. HL2 told the story as you were playing. So many HL2 moments were just standing around waiting for scripted animations to finish.

At most I remember in HL1 having to wait for scientists to open doors, but they explained things pretty quickly as it was a survival situation.

How much time elapsed between the end of HL1 and the Seven Hour War? Judging by the end cinematic where G-man seems to be implying there was a full-scale invasion of Xen by humanity, and that Op4 and BS finish a while after HL1, it's at least not immediate, but I had the impression it was pretty soon after.

Also since you don't seem to see anyone younger than Alyx, that would either imply the suppression field has been in effect for quite some time or that Valve got lazy with the modeling and didn't want to put in kids.

>>388695293
Is Black Mesa Source out yet?

>>388685408
what the FUCK

>>388695668
Xen is still Coming Soon.

As much I love Half-Life (and I fucking love Half-Life) it was never about the game itself, but rather the mods they spawned.

My biggest disappointment is that now we don't have a standard first-person singleplayer Source 2 game to build on and reinvigorate the modding community.

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>>388681609
>>388682482
>>388682807
>>388681763
>>388681852
>>388682016
>>388681405
>>388694184
>>388691572
>>388688093
>>388682723

>>388695775
I remember when I played through black mesa in one day and was so excited to see xen realized. I was so dissapointed. How the fuck does it take like 2 years to make a few levels that have cooky alien shit

>>388695823
We need that now more than ever. I miss mods.

>>388695887
There's still fantastic mods coming out, even for HL1, but recently the pace has noticeably started to slow down for the first time.

>>388695879
>How the fuck does it take like 2 years to make a few levels that have cooky alien shit
The first part of the game took almost a decade. Xen is supposed to be much larger and better done than it was in the first game.

>>388696016
It's been slower for a while now. I think a lot of people were waiting for Source 2 and it just didn't happen.

>>388696016
Mods for newer games slowed down because of the amount of work it takes to make something look acceptable these days. Doom still has a pretty active modding scene because of how easy it is.

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>>388695879
They're doing way more than they have to, I think but it's probably going to end up good when it's done.

>>388693797
>>Dedicated grenade throw, as opposed to switching to the grenade "weapon"

Like Team Fortress Classic? Good times, but I don't think it fits a game like Half Life.

>>388696267
That doesn't look anything like Xen.

>>388696418
It's not really supposed to be an exact match. They wanted to try to do it better and make it unique.

>>388696423
>>388695890
How many times are you going to post this?

>>388681095
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpCv12q6fFI
Yes, this is correct. Half Life 2 IS a great game, but it's not because of the story. The story is mostly a mishmash of various sci-fi tropes, vaguely connected to Half Life 1. What makes HL2 great is its extremely well-executed and highly atmospheric game world. Wandering through the overrun city blocks, eerie industrial zones, ruined villages, and rural areas of HL2's game world is an amazing experience. The mood is thick and impressive. The opponents are brutal and menacing. The plot... is more or less just a contrivance that moves you through this world, and the friendly characters are more or less just props there to give exposition and fawn over you.
Still one of the all-time great games, though. I don't think the game's creators should be faulted too much. What they pulled off is already such an impressive achievement that it would be asking for a real artistic miracle to expect them to have also succeeded on the level of plot and character.

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>>388696482
>hd remake
>"let's do our own unique twist!"

>>388696621
Until my detail-orientedness is satisfied. Done.

>>388696630
I'm not watching your half-hour-long click bait.

>>388696708
>they should keep poorly designed levels the same

>>388696736
I don't give a shit. In any case, it's not by me. The guy in the video is probably harsher on the game than I am. But I highly agree with some of the points he makes.

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>>388696482
I get wanting to put their own spin on it but nothing about that screams Xen or alien to me. That just looks like an Earth cave with some crystals stuck in it. Where's all the weird alien rocks, where's all the different colors?

>>388696708
That ship has long sailed. They wanted to take parts that were mediocre in HL1 and make them fun.

>>388696267
Not bad, but I always picture Xen as more "gooey", green and pink. Where can I see these images?

>>388696826
Still not watching it. Probably just repeating obvious shit for babbies like yourself as usual.

>>388681338
there isnt an exact date in time for Half Life 2 tho

>>388695879
Artistic inspiration doesn't always strike. But when it doesn't, you still have to put bread on the table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ddJ1OKV63Q

>>388697004
Enjoy your imaginary ego competition.

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>>388696936
https://forums.blackmesasource.com/index.php/Board/4-News-Developer-Updates/
the first two threads specificially. jesus this really doesn't look like xen.

>>388697141
Still not watching your video.

>>388697073
Watching this for like the fifth time and this is the first time I noticed that Valve actually calls him the G-Man

>>388697157
Thank you, was looking in the main site and didn't found any Xen-related images there.

Yeah, it doesn't look much like Xen, but it looks alien enough. Could use more green.

>>388691884
a fern is a type of plant, did you mean urn?

>>388682059

G-Man could see his plot armor

How do I get into the Half-Life series? I would like to start at the beginning. I assume it goes:
>Half-Life
>Half-Life 2
>Portal series.
>Then I know is that there's a recent remake of Half-life 1 called Black Mesa.
Where I get confused is what all this Episode talk is about. Why does HL2 have episodes and HL1 doesn't?

Also, I know Valve patches the fudge out of their games. I don't want patched games. I want to play it like you guys did when they came out with all their nuances intact. How do I go about this?

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>>388697513
>but it looks alien enough
It looks like the ocean which I guess is what they were going for. I really wanted to see the original Xen remastered.

>>388697671
Play Half-Life 1, Blue Shift, and then Opposing Force. Play Black Mesa afterwards if you want but it might be worth waiting for them to finish Xen. Then play Half-Life 2, then HL2 Episode 1 and 2. Portal 1 and 2 take place in the same universe but are otherwise pretty much disconnected. They're also first person puzzle games instead of first person shooters.

>>388697671
Do this:
>HL1
>HL1: Blue Shift
>HL1: Opposing Force
Op4 is much better than Blue Shift so end the HL1 series with a bang
>HL2
>HL2: Ep1
>HL2: Ep2
>Portal
>Portal 2

>>388695868
>Better Off Ted is now used for shitposting image macros

Season 3 when?

>>388697671
>Half-Life 1
>HL1's Gearbox expansions (optional, lots of people love Opposing Force)
>Black Mesa (optional, remake of HL1 without Xen)
>Half-Life 2 (or Half-Life 2: Update, basically HL2 but with modern lighting and shadows)
>Half-Life 2: Episode 1 (canon HL2 expansion)
>Half-Life 2: Episode 2 (canon HL2 expansion)
>Portal
>Portal 2

>>388697073
>"Will this run on my 486?"
...
>*Very visibly impressive scene*
>"Now this is the stuff that won't run on your 486"
>"Will that mean I'll have to upgrade"
I would give years of my life to be an adult game journalist during that time and experience old E3s, damn.

>>388697818
>>388697885
>>388697969
Thanks bros.

>>388697818
This is good but I'd say play Portal 1 & 2 after HL2 if only for the plot relevant stuff.

>>388697671
Decay was an official expansion pack for HL1 even if everyone forgot about it. There are also a lot of good HL1 mods you should play and people in threads will give you recommendations.
>Why does HL2 have episodes and HL1 doesn't?
Valve got lazy with the sequel.
>I don't want patched games. I want to play it like you guys did when they came out with all their nuances intact. How do I go about this?
https://forums.sourceruns.org/index.php?topic=2692.0

>>388697902
Same year HL3 comes out

>>388698174
>Decay was an official expansion pack for HL1 even if everyone forgot about it.
Is it canon though?

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>>388683286
they were brainwashed, controlled by the nihilant via these collars they had to wear. you can even see one of the vorts wearing such a hl1 collar in nova prospect as he gets his brain zapped, that model also has some more implant looking things on it, suggesting that the vortigaunt troops from hl1 were more like the trans human soldiers from hl2, brain washed, surgically altered and conditioned to serve the combine

>>388698242
Gearbox expansions are in their own separate continuity.

Protip: for a giant lore dump, spam the vortigaunt who puts the chopper gun on your hoverboat repeatedly with E and he'll basically spout off a ton of information about the vorts and what happened after the Nihilanth died. You can also do this if you find the crazy vort in the sewer, but he's a pain in the ass to get to and they both say pretty much the same shit.

>>388698493
But you get an achievement from the sewer vort!

>>388697671

The Half-Life 2 episodes were meant to be short story expansions for Half-Life 2's story. Play them directly after HL2.

>>388697394
Well yeah, who do you think named him?

>>388698621
but i'm never gonna get them all anyway because my hoop game is trash

>>388685408
delete this

>>388683578
well, kinda like i still remember that someone i know had lunch with me, and the sprite was just water since they ran out of soda juice without noticing it, on the day 9/11 happened

when there has some accident occured , you mostly remember certain facts a very long time after the event took place.

>>388693797
>Dedicated grenade throw, as opposed to switching to the grenade "weapon"
no, fuck off

>>388698884
>9/11
Go to bed america, no body gives a shit

>>388682726
This is the only piece of Shadman art I actually like.

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Remember guys to play any Half Life in October 10, then it have been 10year's since last HL.

Im sure going to play frst Half Life then

The more i play any half life game the more i think that if this plot was turned into a movie it would have been the new star trek or the new star wars or harry potter, the the big pseudo geeky fanbase and crowds of people awaiting the next release

The hype for half life 3 was way too high, even if it was just a 5 minute tech demo it would have sold more than anything, half life is absolute kino

>>388694953
Oh, snap.

>>388682476
OpFor had a lot of shitty sections like the vortigaunt tunnels

>>388699767
>Being this gay

Amazign...

>>388699880
i will fuck you until you love me bitch

Half Life > Portal > Half Life 2 > Episode 1 > Episode 2 > Episode 3 > Portal 2

This is the canon order, right? Does anyone know where the Portal comic fits into the timeline? I've been wanting to go throught the Black Mesa universe in it's canon order. Also, any other canon material in this universe I should know about?

It's pretty well known at this point Half Life has god awful writing that results into massive logical plotholes. If you played 1, 2, and all the DLC/episodes, you'd realize this. However, it does a decent enough job to have some storyline going. Its story is the kind that you just take at face value, the deeper you deep, the more holes you see.

>>388681609
Eli is the guy Gman is talking to, and also the guy you see right after resonance cascade, the one who opens door for you.
Kleiner is the one who sends you through Xen portal.

>>388698493
Yeah, video of the dialog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adh2hWrUbP0

>>388699767
You mean the voltigore tunnels? What was wrong with those? You had the displacer, the alien bazooka, and the heavy machine gun by that point.

>>388700423
Could you elaborate on everything you just said?

>>388700163
portal 2 happened around the timeline of hl2 ep2, maybe even at the same time, since the combine find the borealis in the end, and learn about the existence and location of the enrichment center. in the portal coop campaign you play a mission helping glados to activate her external sensors, and on the radar screen you can see several incoming blips as the combine look for the research facility.

>>388700423
What?

>>388682473
>G-man directly intervening
>expansions are canon
wew lad

>>388682482
>tfw Kleiner didn't age in 20 years

>>388694576
If it wasn't Gordon then it would've been someone else in the test chamber, shit would've still gone down. Except chances are, nobody would've made it out of Black Mesa and the initial shitshow would've never been contained. Gordon made the best out of a bad hand.

>>388682493
To be honest, the original security guard looks so fucking tired, almost like a zombie.

>>388701227
Well, in all his appearances he's either bored (very start of HL1) or desperately trying to survive an alien invasion. So his look makes sense.

>>388701227
must be all the blue shifts :p

>>388688943
Why was Alyx even there to begin with? Black Mesa was fucking top secret facility that developed weapons for government, it was actually so secret that once shit went down every single scientist who worked there was ordered for extermination, not to mention hazards everywhere and shit. Was it "bring your daughter to work day"? On the day that fucking Resonance Cascade experiment was to be carried out?

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>>388701227
should have stuck with the old one.

>>388696208
I think that's the core issue. Source is just about as far in terms of fidelity as I think you can ask a fully hobbyist team to get, and even that's pushing it a bit. Goldsource, on top of being comfy as fuck, sets a pretty low bar in terms of model detail and texture quality. Everything's an approximation to begin with, which lessens the burden.

>>388689913
Gordon bouncing around killing other gordons onboard the borealis? I dunno this shitpost eludes me.

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http://www.moddb.com/mods/hl2aftermath/downloads/hl2aftermath-release-1
https://pastebin.com/q9DMFa7c

can i finish/make episode 3 with these

>>388701459
the manhattan project top secret as well, and the scientists lived there with their families in a small town they built at the research facility, since they were not allowed to leave the area as long they work on their projects.

>>388697073
That's still kind of impressive, somehow.

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>>388691284
I've always thought they look like cool people to work with. I've worked in a research lab as an assistant during my uni times, old people there were cool.

>neets in this thread are literally incapable of grasping that coworkers might actually know one another

>>388700728
it was uninteresting and shitty
probably one of the worst sections in any HL game

>>388701609
>really rough ep3 story outline fit to a single blog post and and a few prototype maps
you would have even less to work with than the people trying to fix the hl2 leak and they had almost a completed game and over 15 years.

>>388701762
Dead wolf

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>>388701609
no, since the borealis is a nuclear ice breaker and not a tanker, and it was established in ep 2 that it partly teleported into an iceberg

>>388701459
HL2 is a brilliant game but the plot is largely a mishmash of sci-fi cliches and pandering.
Doomgates to other dimensions opened and aliens invaded.
You are the savior of the entire world. Everyone treats you as a hero, including this hot girl who makes doe eyes at you all the time.
Everyone important in the world is part of a small group of friends and relatives.
I'll give it props for the interesting treatment of collaborators, though - the humans who work with the aliens. That adds a bit of a genuine moral gray zone and has authentic real-world sort of menace.

>>388700827
Portal 2 is set centuries after everything else

>>388681095
>top secret research lab/base that develops cutting edge weapons for the army and outright researches alien tech
>the only defense are few guys in blue suits with a glock

>>388700827
>portal 2 happened around the timeline of hl2 ep2
huh?
Portal 2 is literally hundreds of years in the future

>>388700728
>voltigores have massive collision models
>loads of them in cramped tunnels with no light
>try to run past one
>get stuck
>die instantly

>>388702104
Play the game.

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>>388701958
the borealis was drawn like this in concept art

someone even tried to make it as an actual map

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>>388702360

>>388687637
>until you conveniently met up with your old friend from black mesa :^)
you mean after G-Man teleported you to excatly where and when you needed to be for Barney to find you

>>388700827
portal 2 single player and coop aren't connected at all and cannot be assumed to be set around the same time

>>388701978
The most interesting storytelling in Half-Life 2 is at the periphery. It's the way the world is built, the subtle hints in the art direction and mechanical design, that sort of thing. The way that the Combine's heavy attack aircraft and transport ships are clearly organic beings with parts grafted on. The way that human concepts of government and social structure have been co-opted to serve the needs of the invading force. The main storyline is probably the least interesting part of the setting.

>>388701994
>>388702202
You slept only for 30 years

>>388685730
This was just the models guy having fun. It's not canon and isn't meant to be seen ingame. It's just there as an easter egg when people noclip into his suitcase to see whats inside.

>>388702496
Laidlaw didn't even stick to that version.

>>388702818
Play the game.

>>388702947
Holy fucking shit kill yourself you retarded faggot

>>388695868
My bad it was a microwave casserole
capatcha: MAIN GORDON

>>388702650
I completely agree. The little details, worldbuilding, mood/atmosphere and moral gray zones are very interesting. The main plot line isn't.

>>388702803
Have you played the game? Have you seen state of Aperture? Have you heard the announcer when you wake up? When you wake up for the first time, he says "fifty days", later he says six nines and then continues saying nines while another message plays. Considering those are days it has been AT LEAST 2700 years.

>>388703158
Pretty much. The plot exists to provide context to setpieces and levels. To give you a reason to be going from place to place and to show off the still fairly impressive facial animation technology. Outside of that it's nothing to write home about. It's well executed but it's nothing special.

>>388702650
>>388703158
It's really just Freeman reacting to shit happening around him until they go fuck up the citadel
The plot probably suffered when they cut huge sections during the endless beta period. Valve's huge focus on gameplay back then meant they would have picked sections for interesting gameplay rather than story

>>388696708
Xen is universally regarded as the vastly inferior part of HL1, I do not mind at all that they aren't recreating it faithfully and are instead doing there own thing there.

>>388702634
Atlas and Peabody are explicitly stated to have been recently rediscovered at the end of the portal 2 single player campaign though

Doesn't matter how far into the future Portal 2 is because it's not canon.

>Gaben gets asked about Episode 3 in like 2008-9
>says they want to introduce more cool new stuff than in eps 1 and 2
>guy asks if there is some new technology or gameplay elements
>Gabe says definitely, there are things from a technological standpoint that have never been in a game before

I guess we'll never know

>>388703601
It was going to be time control mechanics. That's what F-Stop was too

>>388703267
>>388483271

Enjoy

>>388702221
Why are you running past them instead of shooting them with your displacer or alien bazooka or heavy machine gun?

>>388703726
Sounds boring

>>388703726
I don't think it was F-Stop, even though it's possible.
F-Stop isn't time control though. It's shifting thorugh 4th spatial dimension.

>>388704071
I'm pretty sure it was controlling "light" and changing the world based on how much light you let through.

>>388704649
Anon who supposedly translated at Valve (he posted Raising the Bar signed by every employee with a timestamp) was recently talking about what he saw there in 2008-9 and was talking about some mechanic that let you see through walls using a camera and dimensions or something like that.
Sounded like F-Stop to me.

>>388693980
>What fucking problem could you have with a grenade key?
going from arma 2 to 3 and pressing G for the first time

>>388704919
>Button that used to be the inventory screen is now the grenade key
MADMEN

>>388693797
>dedicated grenade/melee/some other shit key
no, go fuck yourself you console shitter

>>388700827
Portal 2 CoOp is all about helping GLaDOS locate and open the backup vault full of humans