Haha what the fuck? Why is this twist spoiled in the tutorial area?

when you leave midgar stop playing the game because it goes to shit and never recovers

but in the stone age...

>>388672545
Huh? Where is this conversation? I must've missed it.

>>388672545
Yeah, this entire tutorial room is fucked up. Fortunately, I don't think it affects all players. Watching two of my friends play FF7 when it was rereleased on PS4, they both missed this entire building.

>>388673013
There is a tutorial building? Why the fuck is the tutorial so hidden?

>>388672781

>>388672781
This but unironically.

>>388673206
Im not being ironic, Midgar is amazing and the rest of the world is generic and boring.
Fuck the snow area specially

>>388673110
>There is a tutorial building?
Tifa tells you to visit the shop on the 1st floor of said building, how the hell did you miss it?

>>388673303
Why?

>tfw only 3 trophies left
Grinded through on 3x. AMA.

>>388673110
It was "hidden" in all that dialogue you skipped and exploration you didn't do like a faggot.

>>388672545
>twist

>>388673579
I dont know ask the director of the game.
There is japan town, desert area, ice area, forest area, temple area and the final dungeon is an ugly ass crater.

I wish the whole game took place in midgar, but we gotta check those jrpg boxes, we need a world map and a car that you use for 10 minutes then never again!
The amusement park was good but it could have easily been inserted into Midgar too

>>388673303
Cosmo Canyon says eat a dick

>>388672545
It's a Final Fantasy game, of course you'll walk around in an overworld

>>388673303
Fuck off retard.

>>388673303
No I agree I just see a lot of people saying the opposite. Midgar is the coolest in terms of art direction all the cyberpunk shit is just thrown at the window so quickly just to make sure not to scare off any FF fans.

>>388673843
Overrated shit to be honest, you only like the music and the tragic backstory to the dog that shouldnt even be a party member

>>388673834
Nah. Your dum.

>>388673303
>>388673834
Eat a dick. Golden Saucer was the best part of the game. I only hope they go fucking bananas with it in the remake. So much improvement could be done to it without affecting the rest of the game at all.

>>388674012
Don't worry if you're lucky it might get a whole episode of the remake dedicated to it.

>>388673303
I agree 100%. Midgar was a cool setting, Shinra felt like a menacing threat, they were building up a really nice atmosphere with how oppressive and dystopian everything was. Then it all ended and we were right back in Generic RPG Village in a generic grassy field trying to stop an evil wizard from taking over the world. Maybe if the whole game had taken place in Midgar, it might actually deserve some of the praise that it gets.

>>388673110
There's even a second one in Junon.

>>388674138
Each minigame will be a separate paid DLC though. Make sure you get the season pass. :^)

>>388672545
It's spoiled in the instruction booklet, faggot.

>>388673303
I agree, but the moment you leave Midgar and this music is playing
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf3CJZAAz2g
Just incredible...

>>388674291
Missed that too.

>>388672545
>twist
You leave Midgar 5 hours into the 40 hour game, I wouldn't exactly call that a twist.

>>388672938

there is a tutorial zone that is really easy to skip, i must have played the game a thousand times but i always do the tutorial because it includes hilarious shit like

>talking save points
>little kids beating each other in order to teach you about limit breaks
>explaining bad status effect to flexing musclemans

>>388674270
Man remember when the reactor explodes and people get crushed because of it I was so ready to see the political ramifications and how the terrorist nigger will react to it, I expected a complex story.
But I got faggy momma issues villain instead

>>388672545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMnarFXsPws
I lost

>>388674468
Well it seems like everything they teach you is self explanatory or otherwise explained elsewhere in game.

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>>388673914
>cyberpunk

>>388674468
>Cloud is the one explaining how the mechanics work to everyone else
always loved that

>>388674540
I know, we could have gotten such a cool story that really focused on the fact that your party members were LITERAL terrorists, dealing with both the citizens who are thankful that you're fighting Shinra and also with the ones who hate you for the collateral damage you cause. Oh well, we can always dream...

>>388674468
>What?! Finger??!

>>388674540
I was wrong it was not a reactor but a tower or something, its been a while
But just look at this and try to tell me that the rest of the game is anything like this at all.
This is the peak of the game, it peaks before it has time to barely begin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I01PKhFfpc&list=PLE57E4130212E095A&index=7

>>388674794
>Ey yo, we're the Avalanche, look at us and shiver in terror!
No one knew who the Avalanche was and there's plenty of dialogue with NPCs saying good and bad shit about them.
They basically stopped being Avalanche when Sector 7 dropped down and after that it was a ragtag of misfits that wanted revenge.

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>>388673303
>not liking one of the comfiest places and music in the game
Are you actively trying to be unhappy?

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>>388672781
Contrarian faggot being contrarian faggots i see. Just another day in /v/

>>388672781
so i'm guessing you didn't actually play the game.

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>when you hear the overworld music for the first time
>the part in the middle where it gets dark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UARM4q7hHU

>midgar is gud
>bawww I hate FF13
Can't have both, faggots.

>>388675531
I did and when it came out too.

>>388675545
>trap
>ff7
yep, confirmed gay

If you unironically think the basic ass FF game that is after Midgar then you have terrible taste

Midgar was example of moving forward but the rest of the world map shit is stupid

And Snowboarding sucks

>>388675572
I dunno m8, when I got off the train and my crew ran to the left I went to the right and fought some monsters at a ghost trainyard!

>>388675572
That makes no sense FF13 has horrible characters, writing, combat, atmosphere.
They are completely different.

>>388675572
FF13 is bad for way more than just simple corridors.

>>388675572
Midgar has people you can talk to and a thing called "atmosphere."

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It blew my mind when you left Midgar the first time because I thought you were going to spend the whole game there.

>>388675631
That's Audrey Tautou, a french actress you retarded mongoloid.

>>388674012
Golden Saucer is pretty remarkable. It's probably one of the most awesome places in all of vidya.

>>388676145
It's what gave me my minigame fetish.

>>388676145
Is that the place where get thrown in prison and forced to do a chocobo race to get out?

Unless this was your first FF game you knew you would leave midgar.
All jrpgs needed a world map

Golden Saucer hype makes no fucking sense

I didn't find it fun or special at all.

>>388676528
And cait sith is retarded, I should be able to tell it to fuck off, or write the scene better so its not so forced.
Yeah thats the joke that he forcefully joins you well its not funny

What's a bigger drop off: FF7 after Midgar, or FF8 after disc 1?

>>388676662
The entire FFXIII trilogy

>>388676662
FF8 has that giant ice cream monolith and the futuristic city.
And the succession of witches fight is great
FF8 drops when you go look for the blue seeds in their faggy boat though

>>388674012
Why was it the best part of the game?

>>388673303
I tried to play FF7 again and a lot of areas are a chore, yeah. I think Midgar was really good but rest of the game was fine

>>388676491
False...

>>388674996
It was a pillar holding up the plates above the slums, pillar gets sploded and the plate falls and crushes everyone in those slums, one of my favorite parts of the game and it ends so early

>>388672545
Does this game ever stop being boring as fuck? Just got to Red XIII's hometown.

>>388676662
For me, it's definitely FF7 after Midgar. Even people who don't really like FF7 will probably disagree with me, but whatever. I just went along for FF8's wild ride, basically treating it like a parody of JRPGs rather than a legitimate game in its own right, and I had a great time with all the goofy shit that happened after disc 1. But I can see how if someone was really invested in FF8's characters and setting in disc 1 that they would be more disappointed in FF8's drop off.

>>388677021
No, it doesn't. If you're not into it by that point then you probably won't be missing anything if you just drop it. I forced myself to play through disc 1 three times, finally beating the game on my third try, trying to force myself to like this game because of the incredible hype around it, and I finally concluded that I just don't really like it. It's just not for me. It's fine, not everyone is going to like every game.

>>388677021
If youre bored already it wont get any better, I promise.

>>388674417
when i was a kid and saw the world map for the first time (first time experiencing world map, it was my first RPG) it just blew my mind

>>388676528
I like the GS but the music absolutely has to go. Hearing that shit on loop for more than 1 hour drives you insane.
t. someone who raised a gold chocobo twice

>>388677840
Thanks you jerk, its now playing in my head again.

FUCK, this ruined the game for me. Way to go Square!!! >:(

>>388672781
FPBP

>>388676662

FF7 after the bit where tifa,barret and yuffie escape from junon

>>388677840
>>388677906
Haha, jokes on you. Whenever it starts to play in my head I imagine going over to the motorcycle game and booting it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCNPpYAkNKA

>>388673303

>Fuck the snow area specially

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2A4iGLz-Lc

I mad.

>>388672545
Pretty obvious for FF, cliche even.

IX was better anyway

>>388678881
Yes. A lot better.

IX has been my favorite FF since I played it for the first time in 2004. Glad to see that more and more people are coming around.

>>388678881
Except for the shitty card minigame and trance system.
And the final boss.
But it was still better yes

>>388679431
IX is great and it really closed the circle plus they should have just stopped after that. I remember waiting for ps2 final fantasys thinking they would be great but nope, they fuckked them all up.

>tried to play FF7 for the first time
>get to the part right before Aerith dies
>lose interest and never play again because the game has been spoiled to hell and back for me

I just don't know if I want to go back and finish. I have it sitting on my ps3 right now.

I mean I guess it was cool to know that the gang met Vincent purely on a chance encounter they awaken him

Midgar is such a chore, what the fuck are you guys on?

>>388674417
god that was a great fucking game

>>388672545
>twist
It's a FF game, how the fuck is that a """""""twist""""""" there's always an overworld.
It's also mentioned in the booklet and on the game case.

Are you retarded?

>>388676798
White SeeDs, you stupid, stupid retard.

>>388679934
I unironically liked XII. I loved exploring the dungeons in that game.

>>388676662
FF7 stays fun till after Golden Saucer.

>>388681132
More people liked XII than this board would have you believe. The gameplay made up for the bland story.

>>388681537
>Gameplay
That's a funny way of saying menu simulator auto battle.

>>388681645
As opposed to every other menu simulator RPG? Which is what, 95% of them?

>>388672781
Honestly I'm just going to assume not finishing a game is pretty normal for you. It gets better once you get out, you'll never know that though.

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Do you think people who make enemies like this give a fuck about your hurt spoiler feelings?

>>388676662
FF7 is best once you leave Midgar and stays good until disc 3.

>>388672781
yeah,when you kill ornstein and smough you can also uninstal ds1

>>388673303
I want to explore all the sectors :(

When did everybody start hating Final Fantasy 7 after Midgar? I always thought people either really hated or really loved FF7. Leaving Midgar was so damn early in the game

>>388672781
I disagree.

Tell me what Jenova is.
Are the Cetra Al Bhed???

>>388682352
it's just a handful of contrarians in this thread

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>>388674540
>i wanted /pol/ but got /v/
get fucked niggershit

>>388682674
That looks so bad

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>>388681924
Does any other Final Fantasy have enemies as weird as Final Fantasy 7?

>>388683114
Seriously though, everyone talks about two or three elements of the game and seem to forget about all of the bizarre shit.

>>388683283
Because the game is so easy you can win all encounters just by mashing attack so none of the enemies will stay with you after you beat the game, I didnt remember any of those other than the house
This is where DQ triumphs over FF so much, the enemies there have actual personality

>>388683114
>that swamp area in the Northern Crater with the Magic Pots and Movers
Never fails to give me the creeps

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>>388673940
>2017ad
>still being this mad that Aerith got "YIFFED"

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>>388683283
There's nothing bizarre about this game

why did ff7 have so many items that didn't do anything or have any purpose

>>388683474
I agree that most of the game is just too easy. It's the only real flaw in my opinion.

>>388683532
Her in game portrait is so ugly she looked like she was 60, no idea how anyone could care about her

>>388683532
>>388683569
damn,wish they kept makin the retarded japan stuff instead of westernizing the game like they did with FFXV

>>388677021
It drops off the edge at the end of Midgar, so, no. It's just another "classic" that people have over the top versions of in their minds.

>>388678881
You're right, but 9 has some of the most asinine minigames in all gaming history.

>>388674417
Jesus. My heart fucking clenched with a flood of memories. Playing that game on a summer afternoon, dad grilling steaks outside my window.
I haven't played that game since before the new millennium.
https://youtu.be/GA_YAS3xiFM

>>388679934
Huh, you didn't like X? X is my second favorite after IX, and it's the last great FF game imo.

>>388683624
They introduce interesting mechanics that are then never expanded upon or revisited like that one boss that only barret can attack because its too far away or the triangles that encapsulate a party member and you had to attack to disable.

FF also has all these status effects like frog that amount to nothing.
Why do I need an item for every single one of these status effects if I can just cast esuna instead

>>388673886
Not since 9. There is no overworld in any FF game from 10 on.

>>388679934
X has the best combat system. I'd love to see it then the older games instead of ATB.

>>388683114
I like how so many objects in FF7 just have colored vertices instead of actually being textured. In some ways I think it holds up better than the low-res, unfiltered textures of other Playstation games.

>>388682674
Cloud looks like such a flaming fluffy faggot. He's supposed to be (pretending) to be a grizzled hardcore merc, but he looks like he just left the salon and is on his was to Tyson's Galleria.

>>388681924
>>388683114
Man, I love how surreal the enemy designs were. And all the crazy mako/lifestream/jenova shit going on in the world was the perfect justification for them

>>388683114
>Hell House will NEVER be in the remake

>>388684749
He was always a faggot anon.

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>>388672545
I have no hope for the remake

>>388672781
>Shit, now I have to look up a guide to tell me what to do cause I don't actually know how to play games
Midgar was good, but the game only gets better.

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the remake is just gonna have lots of generic mechs and wolves isnt it

>>388672781
The final bosses are literally the best part of the game you fucking idiot

>>388686324
Where the fuck do you fight the cube thing? Debug level? Also that image is lacking Tonberry and Catuar

>>388686324
It's my favorite game and I can't remember half of those things. Where is the thing with the hand from?

>>388686670
Shinra headquarters I believe

>>388686670
Can you be a little more specific?

>>388672545
Leaving Midgar is a twist?

>>388686670
It's called Warning Board its in the shinra building

>>388672781
>>388673206
>>388673303
>I played FFVII for the first time in 2015 and it was shitty

wew lad

>>388676662
Neither, FFVII and FFVIII are pretty consistent in quality.

FFIX after the first disc is the biggest drop in quality in the series. And FFIX wasn't even good in the first place, it just goes from tolerable to fucking trash-tier.

>>388686670
the hand arcade machine? the theme park.

>>388676662

FFVII is great throughout and gets better post-Midgar.

FFVIII drops off right after the first Laguna scene, since it becomes clear that the game is unfun deliberately.

>>388686324
I remember being so terrified of just about every basic enemy when I played through for my first (and only) time. They all look so fucking ridiculous that you wouldn't be surprised to eventually just get 1 shot from some absurd attack you had no idea was coming

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>>388686324

>>388686324
>that faggot in the mansion who took forever to get back on his chain
I remember you

>>388686975
If you use the laser enemy skill it one shots him

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>>388685532
No he wasn't. He didn't become "emo" until Advent Children. He was depressed during his internal identity crisis because it's revealed he wasn't who he said he was, but he got over that as soon as he came out of the comatose state.

But then, AC came around and 100% of all his other cameos, where Square-Enix decided Cloud needed to blame himself for everything bad ever and have massive guilt for no fucking reason whatsoever anymore despite saving the entire planet and having friends who trust in his leadership and power.

Him having 90s hair in the 90s was fine. He doesn't have 90s hair in the ...teens? Whatever it is now: he has faggot hair. He has hair that's something like 11 inches long, is wispy like a cloud and he seems like Meg Ryan in her rom-com films. It's bullshit. Nomura knows what he's supposed to look like. But not for this, it seems.

>>388672781
God forbid that a game offers a dichotomy with its environment to emphasize details of specific areas. Thanks, nu-/v/.

>>388683114
I love how enemies in ff7 look like they came straight out of a Metal Max game.

>>388673843
Cosmo Canyon is great because it's such a contrast to Midgar, but it would have worked better if most of the world was high-tech like Midgar (or at least approaching it at some level like Junon) was instead of first thing after you leave it stumbling right into Kalm, a generic final fantasy village that wouldn't have looked out of place in a game like FF9.

>>388687008
>Not remember Miss Cloud and the time that he took a bath with a bunch of gays.

He's always been a faggot. SE just made it more obvious over the years. You can't tell me that he wasn't in Kingdom Hearts.

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>>388687008
10,000 hours in MS Paint

>>388687401
Anon, EVERYONE was a faggot in Kingdom Hearts.

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what were they thinking

>>388687426
Meg Ryan is Tidus. Cloud doesn't have a real lookalike.

>>388687396

The implication is that Gaia is generally 19th century until Shinra began harvesting mako. Then Shinra areas began to heavily industrialize. Irrelevant backwaters get forgotten about.

>>388686834
The first two discs of FF9 are the best a video game has ever been.

>>388687507
Folklore.

>>388686530
the cube is from one of the areas of the north crater

it's pretty easy to run past the area without fighting it

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>>388687279
Nothing will ever top that series.

It upsets me that the DS games moved away from the "Dragon Quest With Tanks" battle format.

>>388686530
>Tonberry and Catuar
>implying tonberry and cactuar will be cut from the game
you haven't played any final fantasy at all, have you?
faggot

>>388672781
this

There were no bad areas in FFX.

>>388687796
Calm lands, macalania, mt gagazet, bevelle.

>>388687796
Gagazet and the final dungeon are insufferable

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>>388687512
Yeah, that's more accurate. Just saying, I think Cloud looks like a complete F A G G O T F A G G O T F A G G O T F A G G O T F A G G O T with AC/Remake hair.

>>388686324
"Hey Kazamuda, you you finish any of those enemy concepts I ask for?"
"Sure did Mizugaki-san, have a look. Here we have a Triceratops with a go-kart for an ass. And this one is a chimera with a gem on its forehead."
"Chimera? Is...is that a guitar head sticking out of it's ass?"
"Haha no sir, that's a snake, it has a snake for a tail. This one's a cube."
"A cube?"
"Yep."
"Just a cube?"
"Ahhh..it has a face too... It'll have some funky abilities. It'll be cool."
"I see..and this?"
"That's a house. Monster. House monster. This one here is a ghost ship! Spoooooky. This guy is mostly just a blade pendulum, you know from that story.."
"Story?"
"Ah yeah, something about a blade pendulum."
"Who was also a dude?"
"Might have also been a dude, I don't really remember. This a motorcycle, this is a mushroom with like five mouths, honestly we really haven't settled on number of mouths yet, I'm leaning more towards four but my guys are saying five. And this one's a chick."
"A chick?"
"Yeah."
"Just a chick?"
"Ah..."
"Is she a..monster chick?"
"Well she's a monster yes. Enemy."
"So she's a chick with..."
"...boobs?"
"Top notch work Kenshirozuki, keep it up"
"Thank you Matsuzaki-Sama"

>>388687896
Calm down, kid.

>>388684226
And ? After IX, the series became really really shitty. They fucked up VIII, did a last hurrah with IX, and went full retard after...

>>388687796
>the entire section from losing Yuna after Macalania until you get to the Calm Lands
>not extremely awful the whole way through

odd opinion you have there

Why do people bitch about FF7 "being shit after Midgar" when that's just flat-out wrong?

>>388687796
Inside Sin

>>388688040
Because hivemind

>>388687935
I'm thirty and Cloud being a queer "triggers" me, as you kids say.

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>>388688040
because much like Ocarina of Time, Mario 64, and Metal Gear Solid it is extremely hip to hate on Final Fantasy 7 as much as possible and for any dumb reason haters can find

>>388688119
The same hivemind that spouts "Sonic was never good" 24/7, I assume?

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>>388687932
Here's a reply for the effort.

>>388688164
>and Metal Gear Solid
Okay, now that's just crossing the fucking line.

>>388688164
I just had an idea about this. I wonder if it is sort of like stockholm syndrome. Considering how fucking terrible video games are lately, if you grow up with them you have a shit childhood and bad opinions, so to rationalize their terrible taste they claim games that are really good are bad. Then when it becomes a popular opinion everyone will assume you're being a "hater" when you hate bad things.

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>>388685879
>no crossdreasing mission

Normies are fucking up our games.

>>388686324
>That enemy that would shrink your party members and eat them
haha
haha

>>388688335
I still can't believe people when they say that Doom 2016 was a good game.

>>388688426
You're fucking yourself up senpai

>>388688456
I bet you think traps are gay, faggot.

Please leave, you're embarrassing your stupid self.

>>388688335
I don't think much about it really. I was there when those games were new. They were good then. Still good now.

Teens think it makes them look more mature to not show how much they love something. It's something you grow out of eventually, for most.

>b-but those are entry level games!
Yeah well I've seen the same people scoff at Quake and Quake is the fucking tits. This argument is retarded too. Who cares, they're great.

>>388675648
But Chocobo racing, motor cycle fighting, chocobo inbreeding, submarine fighting, and the fight for mount condor, were all good.

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>>388688661
>chocobo inbreeding

>>388673914
>cyberpunk

Dieselpunk is the word you're looking for friend.

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FFVIII punishes you for leveling up which is lame, the junction system is pretty bad, and besides Squall, Rinoa, and Laguna the cast is so underdeveloped they almost feel tacked on.

FFIX had a huge quality drop after disc 1. The villain is shit, most of the characters are underdeveloped, and trance sucks. The music, and character designs are great though.

XII is just bad. Atleast Fran is cute.

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>>388688606
Dialogue in FF7 from Tifa and Aeris indicates Cloud isn't a convincing trap. The muscles and shit give it away.

clearly, Don Corneo is gay

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>>388683114

>mfw the northern crater with the swamp that had nothing but magic pots and david bowie

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>people unironically think this remake will be good

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>>388688727

>>388688809
Just because you suck a few guys dicks, doesnt make you gay.

Moron.

>people saying IX had a huge quality drop after the 1st disc when the end of disc 3 was phenomenal

>>388687858
>>388687887
It's been ages since I played, how is Gagazet shit? I just remember the mountain climb being kinda cool because I really liked the music for that part.

>>388688661
>Fort Condor
Fuck that, man. The trips you have to take as to not miss a single battle are ridiculous. The rewards aren't even worth it.

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>>388688776
>FFIX had a huge quality drop after disc 1. The villain is shit, most of the characters are underdeveloped, and trance sucks. The music, and character designs are great though.

I disagree. The whole game is pretty solid. I agree that characters like Amarant and Freya are a bit underdeveloped. Quina doesn't need development.

>Zidane spends the entire game being selfless for his new friends, and in the end when he loses his shit his friends help him for the first time. He gave and it came back to him when he needed it most
That was amazing to me. FFIX would be my favorite game in the series if Tactics didn't exist.

>>388676662
prison escape is more bareable than that fucking kalm flashback if thats what you're asking.

>topic
midgar is shit, thats why it locks you out til you get the key and all you really have to do there is get tifa's glove from the herp derp broken minigun shop.

>>388687796
>thunder plains
>"this is fine"

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>>388672545
WHY THERE ARE NO CAIT SITH FIGURE FOR SELL ?
EXPLAIN THIS SQUAREENIX
HE IS ONE OF MAIN CHARACTER!!!

>>388676662
FF8 completely goes to shit after disc 1. Disc 1 is good because it's still somewhat grounded. It doesn't go full retard with magic and exposition until disc 2.

>le orphanage scene
What were they thinking?

>>388689029
>It is not a homosexual act to sexually pleasure another male when you are in fact, the same sex as said male
Next you're going to be telling me fingering your ass in the shower and moaning like a girl isn't gay either.

>>388689052
I hate Gagazet for the encounter rate.
>>388689113
Freya is developed more than any non-main character from 8 or 7. People just get pissy because they want the option to have a social link with her and have sex with her, because that's what JRPGs are about now.

Good point, I never thought of that scene that way.

I do like IX, I was mostly stating what keeps it from being at the top of the series. You have to admit trance straight up sucks though.

>>388686465
>implying cheesing mimic with some long ass summon animation was the best part of that game

>>388689373
>People just get pissy because they want the option to have a social link with her and have sex with her, because that's what JRPGs are about now.
I sort of agree. Hence why I said "a bit". I mean, she does get her shit resolved for the most part but it also feels like after Burmecia she has like....zero dialogue. She's just a quiet stoic character, sort of Auron except Auron had a lot of reasons to talk to Tidus.

>>388689486
It's like limit break but worse

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>>388689362

>Next you're going to be telling me fingering your ass in the shower and moaning like a girl isn't gay either.

>>388688776
>FFVIII punishes you for leveling up
No it doesn't. It simply scales your random enemy encounters' level to match. Doing so means higher-tier item drops, higher-tier Draw Magic and continued challenge no matter what location you are in. However, bosses remain at a fixed level, making them easier to defeat as well.

>the junction system is pretty bad
The junction system only applies to your stats IF you get summons (most people miss Questzacoatl at the beginning (or ever) and Siren (from a first Boss Draw). I say this only to mention that you can't "abuse" the junction system when you don't know what you're looking for or how to do it. Specifically, you can't abuse it without playing Cards, Drawing fucktons of magic, leveling up your GFs to get CardMod and MagRefine and whatnot...and only early on. It's otherwise quite coherent and applicable. Junction attacking magic to Atk? Better atk. Junctioning Fire to your StatAtk? You hit with fire attribute. Etc.

>cast is underdeveloped
Cast is bullshit. Cast it a mercenary, who's job it is to kill sorceresses, gets a job to kill a sorceress and fails. Then, it turns out everyone is related, including a dad who's the ruler of a society that's 1000 years more tech savvy which he "saved" by pushing a dyke into stasis like an oaf and they all said, "great now you've got so much charisma that you're the President who we don't listen to."

>XII
>bad
No

>>388689496
Yes because you have to do the most overpowered method to beat sephiroth. You're a fucking idiot. Just apply that to any game and call it shit.

>>388689486
Trance does suck, but it's better off sucking. Limit breaks are a fucking terrible mechanic. In FF7 you keep your characters furied and spam limit breaks. In FF8 you keep one character low on HP and spam limit breaks. In FF10 you have ways to fill up your limit bar super quickly so you can spam limit breaks. They ruin each game they're useful in.

>>388689496
>fight Emerald
>W-Summon KotR
>mimic with other two characters
>leave to make a sandwich or two
>by the time you get back Emerald WEAPON's dead

>>388689619
>not understanding a joke

>>388689373
>Freya gets shit on by the entire universe
>Her country: dead
>The only other settlement of her species:dead
>Her boyfriend: alive! Doesn't remember her, will never get his memory back
>After saving the world, all she gets to do is watch all her friends celebrate their exciting new lives while she just gets to contemplate everything she's lost, arguably some of which she was directly responsible for destroying

>>388689362
>sucking dick is about sex

You seem like your underaged

>>388689052
Gagazet suddenly had a SHARP enemy level increase and then it ends with thee demand for Kimhari to fight two very strong bosses solo when we all knew Kimahri was shit and never used him.

>>388689619
lmao someone is buttmad

you can like traps all you want my man im just dishing out the bantz

>>388689694
Oh... you think Sephiroth was the final boss, kek

>>388683114
What the fug, It's been like 8 years since I played but I don't remember any of these at all.

>>388689751
Except there are plenty of survivors, to whom she promised to help rebuild Burmecia. Yes, she goes through some shit, but life goes on for her and her race.

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>>388689720

>>388689795
You're terrified that dicks might be delicious.

Jesus you are closeted.

>>388689798
>Bizarro Sephiroth
>Safer Sephiroth
>Shirtless Sephiroth

Yeah, sure he wasn't the final boss.

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>>388674417
anon, pls. it's too late at night to be pulling at my heart strings

>>388689774
Those bosses are level scaled.

>>388689486
I didn't notice your reply man but I do agree with you about Trance for the most part. It's a very cool mechanic at the surface level, I mean come on, super forms in Final Fantasy!

But without High Tide you almost never see Trance and when you do its likely in a very short battle anyway. They could have refined it a bit. This anon >>388689714 has a very good point, though.

>>388689921
>Ruby Sephiroth
>Emeral Sephiroth
>Golend Saucer Sephiroth
>Gondola Sephiroth
>Bedroom Sephiroth
You don't remember anything

>>388689760
Putting a sex organ in your mouth is sexual.

>>388689919
>You're terrified that dicks might be delicious.
mmhmm, I wonder why you gathered that from

>>388689950
Even worse since what they have available to them isn't. Turn 1 and suddenly they're doing massive damage and you can't hurt them even though "their level is scaled."

>>388689774
First, the bosses are level scaled. Second, the increase isn't actually that sharp until you get inside the caves and start fighting Behemoths.
Also, Zanarkand and Yunalesca are way harder and they come immediately after.

>>388689113
FFIX had a huge quality drop after the playstation logo tbqh

>>388690059
Youre so deep in the closet, you're finding Christmas presents


Kek. Maybe if you just embraced being gay you would be more comfortable with yourself and not so defensive.

>>388690146
quality post there bro

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>>388690270
Please continue projecting

>>388674417
Is it just me, or does FF VII have the most nostalgic soundtrack of the entire series? It's particularly weird because it wasn't even the first FF game I played, nor my favorite one.

>>388690275
Thanks, I try to keep the level of discussion high.

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>>388672545

>>388690539
this is why tumblr was a mistake

>>388690378
Ahh..soft core shit posting. I feel like i'm on /b/ in 2009

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>>388690539
>dat Tifa

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>>388690384
VI for me.
Dat fucking intro.
https://youtu.be/LHqGiwZNTNM

My most nostalgic music of all time is from Jade Cocoon though.
https://youtu.be/WcIuuEw1Su4

>>388690424
>Necron has angel wings
You should edit this or something. Necron is the opposite of the Life Crystal. Basically Death and the end of the universe itself manifested in physical form.

You don't even really kill the thing. He just gives up on destroying the Life Crystal.

>>388690424
>using the remake versions of FF3 for that shitty meme pic

>>388690539
Niggaroth actually looks kinda cool, not gonna lie

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>>388690621
im too old for this

>>388672781
FPBP

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>>388690680
yeah he does, but Cloud fucking sucks. What's up with that buster sword?

>>388690630
It's posts like these that makes me begin to really believe that "men" growing up these days have no idea what makes a female attractive and go by hearsay to feed their facade of being straight and non-threatening to feminists while they take cock in every orifice they can in secret.

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>>388690539

I mean Cloud does steal a bike at one point during the game.

>>388682352
It's become fashionable to shit on FF7 these days. I won't say I harbor some great love for it, but it doesn't deserve the massive backlash it's gotten from the years of people saying it was the GOAT RPG.

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>>388690880
posting a boner pic in response to tifa fanart makes you closet gay?

wow anon, you sure are a wizard

fuck final fantasy i want another shadow hearts game or a remake or something

preferably one with the same tone as the first game and not the third. FtNW was too goofy compared to the others

>>388690981
Posting a boner pic to a nigger makes you gay. Especially if the nigger is female.

>>388691001
and I want a new Breath of Fire but we can't all get what we want

>>388690539
Blackphiroth was always cool as shit since that one nigger cosplayed him with the most perfect hojo ever.

The white Barret made me lol.

>>388690880
Now THAT'S what I call projection

>>388691046
Honestly she looks closer to latina to me but whatever

just because a lot of black females in real life look like black men doesn't mean that that particular piece of fanart isn't sexy but w.e man

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>>388690981
This is Tifa, though.

>>388691001
>Coming into an FF thread for the express purpose of saying you don't like FF

>>388691070
I'd settle for a collection with new, better localization

>>388690880
Quit being a whiny faggot about some one else's fetish.

>>388690842
Cloud's hair is the worst part of that image and they should have gone with cornrows or a fade then the shitty dreads that he has.

>>388690880
It's posts like these that make me want to go back in time and warn Moot that /pol/ will become the most cancerous thing 4chan will ever see.

>>388691207
Her tits are too small, and for the record black Tifa only works if the artist made Aeris the titty monster instead, since Aeris had the hips and ass of the group and Tifa had the tits.

LGTSS:
>best sidequest
>worst sidequest

>>388691215
yeah that would be great

unfortunately I think Capcom just doesn't give a shit about anything pre-dating 2006 that isn't RE or Street Fighter.

What the fuck are they even developing these days? Dead rising and Dead rising remakes? Resident Evil? Yawn

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>people say Midgar is the best vidya city
>you never explore any of it aside from the shitty slums

>>388691512
>unfortunately I think Capcom just doesn't give a shit about anything pre-dating 2006 that isn't RE or Street Fighter.
Yeah no kidding, Mega Man is dead as dirt and Capcom will be shoving SF down our throats until the end of time while IIRC Darkstalkers hasn't gotten a new game since the '90s.

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>>388673303
>He doesn't like the comfy snow village

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>>388691630
What's wrong with the shitty slums?

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>>388691046
>being attracted to female makes you gay

>>388690539
Unironically cool

>>388691448
"Fat women are GORGEOUS, especially if it's unrealistically ass-heavy"
-Anonymous, 2017

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>>388691876

>>388691630
You run around on the plate after the first reactor bombing before jumping on the train, and you go back on the plate when you parachute down at the end of disc 2.

Besides, there's a grimy sort of coziness to the slums.

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>>388691451
wha?

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>>388692012
Some how I'm not convinced.

>>388691991
"Adipose tissue if a feminine virtue, more so if in excess."
-4chan user of your site, Moot, in 2017

>>388681924
>>388683114
>>388686324
>>388686906
>>388687507

I can perfectly envision all these monster's animations. Looks like it's time to replay VII again. VIII is going to have to wait

>>388672545
Did you really think you were just going to stay in Midgar the entire game? Every FF game up to that point had you traveling the world. It would have been such a disappointment if you were stuck in one city the entire game, even if Midgar was a great setting which is certainly is.

>>388691876
>Waifufags are cancer
This is not news to me.

>>388676457
Yes.

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>>388692124
I'm as baffled as you are if you don't see it.

>>388690424
>Yuffie, not "and Vincent" just Yuffie
fuck this chart.

>>388692160
>It would have been such a disappointment if you were stuck in one city the entire game, even if Midgar was a great setting which is certainly is.
Hope you enjoy playing the remake, where its seriously just Midgar padded out for 10 hours and then its over.

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>>388672545
I'm pretty sure the game's manual also spoiled a bit of the game since it had(or atleast the greatest hits had) a mini game guide in it.

>>388692160
>the entire game?
Game 1 in the trilogy? Maybe.
Game 2 would need to end up north and Game 3 would end up north.

>>388688776
>besides Squall, Rinoa, and Laguna the cast is so underdeveloped they almost feel tacked on.
Yeah this is one of VIII's biggest problems. Zell, Selphie, and Quistis are just literally not characters, they're just props that show up in battle. I've literally never played an RPG with flatter characters.

>FFIX had a huge quality drop after disc 1. The villain is shit, most of the characters are underdeveloped, and trance sucks.
Them's fightin' words. The journey to the Iifa Tree on disc 2 is the comfiest part of any video game ever.

Also, I'm not sure how you can think Kuja is shit compared to Sephiroth or any other FF villain. At least Kuja seems like he has genuine emotional motives for what he does. Also he blows up a planet, that's pretty cool.

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>>388674417
>those youtube comments
i honestly though "phan" was a character in the game i somehow completely forgot. what the fuck are they talking about

>>388691876
>unrealistically ass-heavy
anon

>>388692427
I think it's because there're a lot of comments from people with the name Phan

So what was everyone's favorite moments? Mine are,
>Golden Saucer mini-games
>the chocobo ranch
>the chocobo sage's place(max comfy
>Don Corneo and the wall market
>Costa Del Sol
>Hojo vacationing in Costa Del Sol
>Wutai and the vacationing Turks
>Palmer boss fight in Cid's home town
>Aerith's home
>Barret's home town
>Barret's old friends beating him up
>Barret's flash blacks about why he created AVALANCHE
>Barret's scenes prior to and immediately following the boss fight with Dyne
>going on a date with Barret at the Gold Saucer

>>388674794
Play Golden Sun(both in a row) for this kind of plot.

Midgar is so memorable specifically because the rest of the world contrasts it so much. Being a generic dystopian hellhole in an otherwise fantasy world full of magic and ancient mystic bullshit is what elevates it from being another generic dystopian hellhole.

I'll agree that the Midgar section has better story pacing than the rest of the game but that's mostly because its so restrictive and linear. The games mechanics only opens up and becomes a proper RPG once you reach Kalm.

>>388692132
Moot's gone, we're under the iron grip of Hirohito now.

>>388692569
Sephiroth destroying a Red Dragon during flashback. Instantly made him a favorite character.

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>>388691876
>unrealistically ass heavy

>>388675572
XIII was clearly trying to replicate what people liked about VII but flubbed it pretty badly.

>>388692569
The scene where Bugenhagen tells you about the planet. Mostly because I fucking love this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9v7hx93IQM

>>388692427
some investigating reveals that phan is a portmandeau of Phil and Dan. Which I think are Youtube celebs that do Let's Plays

>>388683615
Because if you collect them all, you can revive Aeris. Go get the all the other 1/35 soldiers!

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>bought ff7 on steam when it first came out
>try to get past first 30 minutes 3 different times
>always uninstall
>finally play it all the way to red xiiis hometown
>fucking bored, all of the good parts were in midgar
>thought the whole game would take place there

>>388692902
I remember myself collected tissues because of the rumor. Fuck you.

>>388687008
He looks fine in your image, which was drawn by Nomura.

>>388683114
Couldn't you knock the ax guy down off his chain, and a few turns later he'd hoist himself back up?

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>>388672545
I know, right!

>>388693270
kek

>>388693107
You're fucking retarded and I'm glad you were disappointed

>>388693117
Those were fun times for video game rumors. I remember one that said the non-Japanese versions of FF7 were heavily censored and that the Japanese version had lots of nudity and sex scenes.

>>388693107
if you didn't play it in the 90s no one gives a fuck about your opinion.

>>388693225
yes, he also had seperate HP for when he fell and had rather detailed animations for failing to jump back on the chain

>>388674996
>FFVII has a higher death toll in the first two hours of the game than most FF games usually have on-screen, outside of warfare
>the fucking goofy ass retarded ShinRa guys are responsible for it and Biggs, Wedge and Jessie are forgotten about entirely

>>388692902
>Not being mean to Tifa every chance you got and taking her in your party to the Ancients City so she'll save Aeris and get stabbed by Sephiroth instead

>>388684127
>They introduce interesting mechanics that are then never expanded upon or revisited like that one boss that only barret can attack because its too far away
Magic also works for that.

If it's true, it's hilarious that the devs caused the whole Aeris thing in the localization by basically messing up the name that appears at her naming screen, despite her supposedly being Aerith in the name code on a fresh save.

>>388693270
By this point more people know she dies than even know who she was.

>>388681924
>>388683114
>>388686324
Y'all remember YANG?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoCkgmfmUds

>60FPS battles on PC were being worked on, combat animations interpolated mostly
>can't find any new progress despite supposedly hitting 90%

>>388688773
Makopunk.

>>388694071
Which is funny because on ps4 the share button is disabled during that scene

>>388694398
nice

>>388694284
What the fuck were they thinking?

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>>388672545
The game manual has instructions for using the world map, and every FF game has a world map, so yeah not that big of a spoiler...

>>388689676
>most people miss Questzacoatl at the beginning
I doubt that. Quistis straight up tells you to go to your desk to get it, as does the mini-walkthrough that came with the game. You'd have to be paying no attention at all in order to miss it.

>and Siren (from a first Boss Draw)
That wouldn't surprise me, though.

>>388673303
i actually agree. the game gets me set up on this grungy alternate universe take on a fucked up city. i dig the music and atmosphere it presents so much and then lol HERE'S GRASSY FIELDS FOR THE 7TH TIME ENJOY

8 did it a whole lot better, at least mixing the modern civilization aspect with mystical lore and magical history and shit, but then ruined it with scaling enemies and the retarded plot the rushes itself along on the last two discs.

>>388689714
>In FF8 you keep one character low on HP and spam limit breaks.
Or you cast Aura on everyone and spam everyone's Limit Breaks.

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>>388689676
Laguna is pretty great, yea.

>>388694284
Who the fuck uses Sense that much?

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>>388694762
>every FF game has a world map
..oh.. those innocent days..

>>388673940
He's not a dog though

>>388694284
This fight was such a pain in the ass if you weren't overleveled

>>388689676
>(most people miss Questzacoatl at the beginning (or ever)
>or ever
You can't miss it or Shiva.
Quistis gives them to you at the gate if you miss them from the desk.

>>388689751
She does get some hope in that her boyfriend starts falling in love with her all over again, which makes sense.

>>388690384
Maybe it feels more nostalgic because even if it wasn't your first FF, you still probably associate it with the earlier PS1 days, because it was one of the first big PS1 games. FFVII was my first FF, though, as well as my first RPG.

>>388686324
>just a girl in a bathing suit

...who is she

>>388695387
Most likely a Siren.

>>388692284
The non-Greatest hits version came with a mini-walkthrough as well. Every PS1 FF game did.

And my God, do I hate the PS1 Greatest Hits cover art. That horrible, horrible green. If they really wanted to call attention to the fact that those games were really popular, couldn't they have done it with something on the *outside* of the packaging that you can remove, instead of ruining the cover itself? It's especially shitty for people who like to collect games.

>>388673940
I find non-humanoid playable characters to be a convenient indicator of more creativity in a game.

>>388689676
>However, bosses remain at a fixed level, making them easier to defeat as well.
Nah. Judging by the FF Wiki, Ultimecia's Griever form at level 1 has 13,050 HP, and at level 19 goes up to 58,950
Bosses scale too, and in terms of statistics and all around

>>388693824
>Not being nice to both Aeris and Tifa and never having anyone else in your party, which makes them fall in love with each other as well as with Cloud
>Not taking Tifa with you to the Ancient City, but having her equip the Orthopedic Underwear so that when she throws herself in front of the sword to save Aeris, the underwear deflects it and they both survive to the end, and you get the threesome ending

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>>388694013
FFVII isn't exactly known for having painstaking effort put into the localization.

>>388694875

>8 faggot sucking 8's dick

8 is literally the most unpleasant thing put on a disc ever made. Fuck that waste of shit. Fuck everything about it. I would shrink my dick to fuck the hole in the center of it just to fuck it. Fucking 8 can fuck all kinds of shit but it'd have to get a prehensile cock to fuck itself.

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>>388694284
I remember a different Yang.

ACHOO!!!

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>>388696674
>thought he was just a monk with a head cold
>didn't realize he was trying to do that kenshiro and bruce lee shout shit

>>388696501
I was kinda bummed they fixed that in the ps4 version

>>388694284
That music is very Diablo-esque.

>>388696632
Its not bad. Its the best follow up to 7 they could have done. Be extremely different.

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Which was the best?

>>388696632
read the post again, you fucking moron. i said 8 did one thing better, and then immediately talked about 2 really big things 8 did wrong.

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>>388686324
That lil pink horse in the mid left, they appear in the Crater, same room as the Movers and the gimme-elixir-pot-things. They are always with another anthropological monster and if you kill one of them before the other, the one that is still alive gets mad because you killed their partner.

It always made me uneasy as fuck fighting against them, and since I never ran from battles I needed to kill them every single time. It was uneasy as fuck and I can see myself going through the same if I play the game again.

I think there was a similar enemy tandem in FFIX, although I might be mixing games here.

>>388696963
it's based directly off of the PC version Eidos made, as in basically a straight port with the remake trailer added in
Eidos were gonna do a re-translation, but only went part way on it, and they were even going to full-size the character models but opted not to; traces used to exist of it from when Cloud and Jessie look at the railway map, where Jessie had a more detailed upper body model made for it, though later releases of the PC version patched this out

>>388694960
I remember using it a lot, often because I just wanted to know what the monsters were called. It took me a while to realize you could press Select for the tooltips that would tell you enemy names. In fact, I think I only figured it out when I hit Select by accident once.