ITT: games where you prefer the original graphics over the remake

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Kirby's Adventure
Monkey Island
Turtles in Time
Ocarina of Time
Gold/Silver
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Duck Tales
Wind Waker
Abe's Oddysee
Super Mario Bros. 3

I don't mind the ugly Gen 3 art as much as I do the "music". The filler is bad as well.

>>388669915
Thank you! I'm so tired of some people here who just shit on older graphics just because they don't like it. Fire Red graphics were okay but I just simply prefer the original's graphics.

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I always liked night-time in gen 2. Somehow the remakes didn't quite catch this cosy feeling.

>>388669915
???????????? But i'd have to say true with SotC and HALO

>>388673297
FULLY
MODELED
FERNS

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why so much bloom?

>>388669915
For some reason, the right image makes me think of old black and white Japanese monster movies, while the left just seems so generic to me.

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>>388669915

>>388673436
No generation after 2 got Pokemon animations right either.

>>388673436
I wish VC games on the 3DS would be the same everything just widescreen.

I've noticed that the games that have the better graphics of the two tend to have the worst music of the two.

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What the fuck were these things anyway?

>>388674704
Stacks of tires.

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>>388669915
>making your gen look generic and ugly just so your RPG can run at 60fps
what did Game Freak mean by this?

>>388674512
Who fucking asked for this? Christ that looks bad.

>>388669915
Dragon Quest 7

>>388674704
barrels

>>388670465
>>388674601
I was so fucked up by the music in Omega Ruby. They fucking changed route 110. That track WAS Gen III Pokémon for me.

>>388674704
Always thought they were marshmallows.
t. Burger

>>388674512
New looks better

>>388674601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOWRNLaCMJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfRLeXXsdnM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1-VyHIx_SY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB1nJq5V828

>>388674512
>Peach gets dynamic text box in both
>Fawful only gets it in the original

>>388674512
>UGH IT ALL LOOKS BAD IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME LE GAME FEEL
It looks better. Bowser isn't some poorly drawn piece of shit and everything has more detail.

The better question would be remakes with improved graphics/artsyle.

>>388674704
bollards

>>388675076
As great as HG/SS was, I fucking despise what they did to Goldenrod's music. It was the best song on the soundtrack besides the Champion Theme, and it so goddamn awful in the remakes.

>>388675187
On the off chance that this isn't a troll, you need to see the originals in motion to really understand what made them so charming. You just can't get 3D models to look that good.

>>388674704
logs

>>388675076
>That GSC music
The nostalgia hurts.

>>388673436
I can't fucking wait for them to release this shit next month.

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>>388670465
Poor taste. Now, if we were talking about the Ruby/Sapphire remakes I would agree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb-AGma5mWc

>>388675316
>You just can't get 3D models to look that good.
is this a troll?, they're sprites.

>>388674601
RS vs ORAS is subjective depending on whether or not you like all the horns
I like them and ORAS butchered almost every track with the best tunes being completely original

>>388674704
Tree stumps

>>388675316
>You just can't get 3D models
>3D models
Very subtle. I love how you accused someone of trolling before proceeding to do it yourself. True talent.

>>388675187
The level of detail is inconsistent. For example,the trees have less detail, and the mailbox is no longer tilted even though the fence posts still are.

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without a doubt

>>388674704
They were supposed to be larger trees that you couldnt see the top of because of perspective. Either that or fencing.

>>388675316
>3D models
here's your complimentary (You)
I'll also do you a favor and play out the "w-w-well they look similar enough to be 3D models therefore they are" thing so you don't have to

>>388675437
>tfw Emerald will forever be the best way to experience Pokémon Gen 3

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>>388674704

>>388674704
I think their trees with fences behind them.

I thought they were big crystals/rocks when I was a wee little lad

>>388675671
To this day I don't think I've ever played the "third version" of any of the games. Except for yellow when it came out on the 3ds last year.

>>388669915
>>388675076
GBA and DS Pokemon had shit audio/music. And before anyone accuses me of being a Genwunner or whatever, I don't even like Pokemon that much.

>>388675782
the third version is like the directors cut

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>>388675578
>tfw replaying original gold on my hacked 3ds in bed, sipping beer after a nice meal
There is something unbelievably comfy about this

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>>388675671
>replay through ORAS
>rival appears right before Route 113 to heal your pokemon despite an old lady being less than 20 steps away in a house who does the exact same thing
did they just think kids were too stupid to go in the one house on the whole damn route?

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>>388669915

The final fantasy games

>>388673436
This shit blew my mind when I was a kid. The fact that a game world could keep track of real world time.

>Turns night in the game when it gets dark outside
>special events on certain days of the week

>>388675871
I've figured that after years and years of seeing people on this board talk about Emerald with nothing but praise.

>>388674704
posts

>>388675864
You're right for the most part. Sound quality issue didn't really get resolved until gen 5

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>>388675707
I will never be able to see them as anything else, really. The ones you see at the sea routes are buoys, obviously.

>>388675707
what kind of self respecting farmer bails his hay in fucking plastic

>>388675946
>>Turns night in the game when it gets dark outside
>>special events on certain days of the week
Both of those things were so cool as a kid. Had to catch Sunkern in the day time. The bug catching contest. Fucking Lapras. Seeing it in the water blew my mind.

>>388669915
gen3 generally looked ugly as shit even though its graphically superior to the previous games.

its odd.

Best gen: gen 3
>b-but muh horns and water
What's the matter faggot can't swim?

Fuck graphics. I just want to hear the original GSC music now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XjouKSkSeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MNAktk9ei8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbcjFvXGXYQ

Do people really dislike the visuals of FR/LG?
I always felt it perfectly encapsulated what gen 1 would look like.

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>>388675936
I wish that 5 & 6 were remade with the 3D models like 3 and 4.

>>388676129
Who doesn't?

>>388676057
you should give them a go if you have time

>>388673436
Gen2 had a really nice color palette and the music composition worked really well with that crappy GB soundchip.

I put more time into Gen1 and 4 but 2 really has a really nice and unique feeling to it.

>>388669915
I actually like the feel for Gen 3, but it didn't work for me in FRLG. Maybe its the music. FRLG feels blander for some reason

I'd still play pokemon if it wasn't for the gay 3d look

>>388674284
The lighting tweaks for WWHD ruin so much for me. Such a shame.

>>388676302
I remember people laughing at me for thinking so at the time of FF3 & FF4 DS release, but I think that low poly chibi look is really nice.

>>388675415
You Hoennbabies don't deserve the OR/AS arrangements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdZejhWPhPE

>>388676129
It needs it be wrapped so that it ferments.

>>388672089
I agree 100%. Crash 1 and 3 were a step up graphically imo, but they fucked up real bad with Crash 2. It was literally unity-tier shit

>>388676273
Pretty much. FRLG is just Kanto without the nostalgia goggles: bland and boring.

>>388676334
Emerald in particular? If I ever stop being lazy I'll see if my shitty ass tablet can run GBA emulation and give it a playthrough maybe.
I just gotta find the time since there's so much shit I gotta beat before late Sept and October.

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>>388669915
Fable. It's a shame because I always wanted them to do a remake.

>>388669915
Had no problems with it when I played it back in the day. Recently I gave Fire Red a replay and the only thing that really stood out as being completely garbage was the sound.

Had to find me a romhack, which is not usually my thing, that restored music back to the original

>>388677048
emerald combine ruby and sapphire's stories and adds a bit more including more postgame

>>388676937

can't you just pile it in a silo for that

>>388669915
After the run button was introduced in 3rd gen I never went back to the original games. Hell I won't even play my copy of Silver anymore since Soul Silver has running.
>>388674512
Part of what made me love Superstar Saga's style was how exaggerated everything was from the expressions to the character design. I was pretty disappointed that the Bean Bean enemies were sterilized in terms of design.

>>388674704
Crystalline rocks

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>>388669915
spelunky. love the 16 bit feel. comfier.

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>>388673436
max comfy

>>388676792
There's like a couple tracks in ORAS that sound anywhere near as ambitious as the previous remake soundtracks, and many tracks outright scrap parts of the original compositions and sound way flatter as a result. The Marine Museum is on the better part of the scale.

Then you have shit like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNWxNFV-AAc
Who had the bright idea of butchering the part after 0:40?

>>388674284
The only thing worse in HD is bloom from the sun, which sucks because the new graphics are flawless besides that.

>>388674512
I think the newer one looks better in still, low-res screenshots like this, but the older one is much better in motion because the sprite animations are fantastic.

>>388675936
fuck the FF5 remake

>>388674704
Pylons

>>388677530
>but the older one is much better in motion
>new one literally has better spritework

>>388676269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP0m-PJozWo

>>388677239
The point of baling hay is to sell it to other people. You can load all those bales on a truck and send it to someone else. Putting it in a silo is only good if you plan on using it yourself.

>>388675946
True blog;
>sometimes would hide in the woods to skip school in Jr. High instead of wait at the bus-stop
>had to wait an hour so for everyone to go to work before going back home
>used to play my Pokemon Crystal game and use the internal clock to tell the time since I didnt have a watch and this was like the 90s before phones
Thank god for that game.

>>388676981
Dunno, while I am largely annoyed by mindless genwunners, I do like the general down to earth feel of Kanto. It all seems rather believable, and thus somewhat suitable to a childhood adventure.

I'm sorta rambling. But let me try to make an actual point: Kanto, more than any other region, seems to be designed to be an adventure game map. Sure, it is not entirely non-linear, but you get to make some choices where to go next at certain points, and you have to progress the game by exploring, atleast more than in other games of the series. Remember how you have to go out of your way to find HM Surf and Strenght, despite them being crucial to completing the game? In Kanto, HMs felt more like powerups in a Metroid game. In most other regions there would be a roadblock, and then the game would hand you the key to that roadblock in the form of an HM, so the HM wasn't rewarding to find.
This isn't anything amazing in Kanto, but it is a nice touch, and of all the regions, I feel Kanto has the most amount of "game design".

>>388677674
You can't say anything good about SSS+BM.

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>>388677413
>>388676792
I don't even want that shit.

ORAS was the disappointment of a lifetime.

>>388677710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8p2FHD8pws&list=PL50AAD8692FEB1043&index=30

>>388674512
i think the remake will be better since they're removing tutorials and they seem to be fixing issues the original had. they're even separating the advanced versions of the bros. attacks and making them their own attacks that perform differently which is great.

>>388677758
actually I'm a bit off, it wasn't the 90s it was like 2000 and it was my Gold version.

>>388677530
>but the older one is much better in motion
Man, just come out and say you prefer the original period. Don't dance around your bias.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgzmrECnA50

>>388677758
>Pokemon Crystal
>90s
I know it might've felt like it, but that's impossible. Gold/Silver came out in Japan at the very end of 1999, and everywhere else in at least 2000. Crystal was about a year later for everyone. Childhood memories tend to blur together like that.

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>nobody posting gen 2 music has yet posted the pinnacle of chiptune

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXqmIkCYOSM

>>388678230
see >>388677995

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Between this and Silent Hill I can't say what's the worse JUST.

>>388678257
Beat me to it. Have this instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JPZKUGv_nM

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>>388677838
Should of saw the writing on the wall when it was announced in the worst gen and wasn't directed by based Morimoto who directed Emerald and HGSS. There were red flags all over the place.

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>>388678296
BamHam is definitely worse thanks to the same team that did FFX-HD.

>>388678257
>mareep with flash

my nigga

>>388669915
3DS Zeldas

>>388678063
>the battle gameplay
looks pretty cool

>>388677838
honestly I prefer ORAS to both XY and SM

>>388676302
is that shaggy, daphne and freddy?

>>388678406
FFX-HD isnt that bad

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>>388678507

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>>388676269
I love all of these, but azalea town is the one that got me

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>>388669915
>bleep bloop nostalgia shit
>good
Get cancer, OP

>>388678406
>>388678567
HOW?

>>388678567
original Tidus looks caucasion, remaseted is more is a lot more Japanese but femmed up as a result. Even the eye color looks more "anime" stylized rather than an eye color you would see on a white person like the original.

>>388678717
never understood why a gym was called gym gym

>>388678296
>ps3 version next to the Wii U version
you're not fooling anyone

>>388678717
Crazy how they did so much more with so little. People don't pay 1st gen sprite work enough respect.

>>388678717
What's with the modernist commie blocks?

>>388678834
Twice as good senpai

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>>388677173
why the original kid from fable 1 looked like he had drown syndrome? Was that some shit added in purpose by peter molyneux?

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>>388678858
He's not kidding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEXmZUtzacU

>tfw never finished yellow

>>>/vp/

>>388678943
Neither did I. It was boring.

>>388677210
Also adds a bit more depth to Brendan and May's relationship without just pandering to the shippers like ORAS did.

>>388675076
>HG/SS Goldenrod
SOILED IT

>>388678717
I never played the original, but I do think it looks better. the style of the newer one just seems off somehow.

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>>388678451
ORAS has better gameplay than SM despite being much easier. I'd rather have Blissey secret bases and o-powers with trainer rematches than none of that in Sun and Moon.

>>388678932
DOCTOR STEEL IN BATMAN!

>>388679058
What a retarded fucking character, I hate Japan's boner for """mysterious""" girls.

>>388677756
This guy bales.

>>388679054
>complete lack of detail in the city, everything is that sterile paved road that is an eyesore
>all that empty space in front of the mall
>Pokemon center is literally a copypasted building except it says Poke on it
>game corner and mall are completely featureless and are just copy pasted variations of the other buildings
>gym gym
No, you're just a retard.

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>>388678858
>being retarded

The wiiu version adds some weird "tacticool" shit that looks garrish as fuck.

>>388677756
What if I send them the silo too?

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>>388669915

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Riddle me this, /v/, what would the games look like if they didn't go pseudo 3D and then to 3D? What would the next step of Emerald's art style look like?

>>388678717
t. 14-year-old

>>388678717
why does that guy have a moat in front of his house?

>>388678717
I like both

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>>388679467
Beautiful sprites?

>>388678858
The Wii U Version of AA looks better than the remaster lol

>>388679305
So Zinnia is like part dragon or some shit, right? I didn't understand that part.

>>388679347
>building geometry is kid-tier
>walls are void of details
>muh road details tho

>>388679543
gen 1+2 graphics are objectively shit
you only like them because your nostalgia goggles are fused to your eyes

I will never understand why they won't make a difficult Pokemon game that is more adventurous and the battles difficult than the kid shit that they still churn out that follows the same tired fucking formula. Other Pokemon IPs are good and show they can make good games that aren't the boring schlock that they still make. Sun and Moon was really bad.

I never played gen 2, but the music still makes me nostalgic as fuck, especially azalea town. Goes to show how great the compositions were, especially for a gb game.

I ordered crystal and a battery recently but i cant be assed to get around so soldering that shit, i really oughta

>>388679634
Gen 1+2 sprite work is superb. Stay mad that people like what you don't like you autist.

>>388675582
>They were supposed to be larger trees that you couldnt see the top of because of perspective
That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard, and I have a brother with downs

>>388679721
>I ordered crystal and a battery recently but i cant be assed to get around so soldering that shit, i really oughta
Yeah, I wasted time and effort doing that. It still didn't work properly. Either I can't solder or the batteries I bought were dud.

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>>388679305
I want her to reappear just to trigger everybody. Not even japan liked her.

>>388679721
I don't think you need to solder batteries.

>>388679632
>buildings actually have rounded edges
>mall looks like a mall instead of big generic house
>game corner looks like a casino instead of generic house
>details on windows and roofs, some of which have chimneys
Keep trying.

>>388679634
>nostalgia goggles
Great argument, faggot. I'll admit that some of Gen 1's sprites are questionable, but Gen 2 was a well-polished production.

>>388679543
t. reddit faggot

>>388679790
What he's saying could make sense, especially since that matches up with the actual trees that replaced those trunk like things in the originals.

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>>388679467

>>388679305
Nips really, really fucking hate her. As in, they had hundreds of hate threads for her on 2ch, and they still make them. That's how hated she is.

>>388680059
That's pseudo 3D.

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>>388676226
There was a lot of water in Gen3, but to be fair it was completely offset and then some by giving you the pokemon equivalent of a rocket-jetski for the surf animation. The only thing actually wrong with the water was the same thing that always has been and always will be wrong with caves and grass too (and not specific to Gen3 at all): the fucking random encounter rate.

On that note I'm baffled by how Gen3 gets so much shit for all the water when the pure cancer came in Gen4 with the SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW battle system and god help your fucking soul if the area had ambient weather you'd be there for one metric eternity just to make it ten steps.

>>388680059
I really wish they would show the Pokemon wandering around.

>>388677758
Cool. Those years were too good for us.

Now all that's left is memories that golden and ripen. Golden like how sunshine burns brightly over the wheat fields of eternity.

>>388680115
What does that mean?

>>388680247
Like being half pregnant

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>>388679467
Emerald isn't better looking than FR

>>388680304
Fuck you I like the style better.

Ahhhhh shit. Now I have to go play some Gen 2. Emulated, unfortunately. Maybe one of these days I'll hit up the local retro-games store and buy a GBC and a copy of Silver.

I absolutely loved the Time/Date Day/Night system in Gen 2 and every game that doesn't utilize it is in my honest opinion a step behind it. Couldn't believe they got rid of it in fucking Ruby and Saphire.

This being said, while I prefer the aesthetics and stylings of Silver/Gold over SS/HG I think SS/HG are the better games and are a necessity in a DS gamer's collection.

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>>388680079
>makes every other character act like retards whenever she's around
>she herself acts all high and mighty instead of trying to come to an agreement when the planet is in fucking danger
>the whole Delta Episode story has to bend over backwards for the player character to actually side with her and do things her way
Not really hard to see why.

>>388680247
3D world with sprites.

>>388679305
>>388680079
the guy who wrote her used to write porn and wrote a character that hijacked the game in a similar way before she looked similar too
the other game was about fighting demons or death gods or something (it was a sequel iirc) and you meet this god lady who can join your party, you get to a point in the game where enemies refuse to fight you unless she is in your party so you can not advance, her story line takes over and is op compared to people i your party

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>>388678451
This. Sun and Moon sucked idk why anyone defends those games.

>>388680448
Play randomizer nuzlocke version.

You walk into grass on route 1, literally anything can pop out, and whatever it is you have to catch it and fight with it whether you love it or not. If it faints it's gone forever.

>>388680636
Like, as in if you knock out a Beedrill instead of catching it, you can never get another Beedrill?

Sounds interesting, but I'm not too keen on changing the experience of Silver. Silver runs deep for me, it was my first Pokemon game and I'm a big nostalgia fag about it. Would welcome something to make the game more difficult in terms of enemy levels and the like though. Still, Silver and SS was a LOT harder than fucking X/Y turned out to be. The Elite Four in X/Y were pushovers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JhgVflYjL8

seems like they're using a lot of the originals animations which will look worse now since the models have more complicated features.

>>388675076
>HGSS

I can't believe someone sat down and approved this

>>388671703
>>388669915
>>388676165
>>388676387
>>388679494
>>388679749
Nostalgiafags should be gassed, the original gen 1 sprites looked awful

>>388673436
>>388674529
>>388676346
Gen 2's OW wasn't much better and you have as big nostalgiagoggles as they do there, but the in battle gen 2 sprites look great and hold up even today

>>388680967
The rules are every time you walk into a new route, you have one chance to catch a pokemon. You are only allowed to catch the pokemon you first meet, so if you mess up and kill it or run out of pokeballs, that means you have to push through to the next route for a new chance.

Nuzlocke is horribly hard, but be glad because bad things need to happen to you in order for you to judge your own happiness.

Suddenly every gym is a massive challenge again, and getting that badge is so, so satisfying.

Randomizer is really not a big change to the main game play of Silver. All that changes is that all of the pokemon you encounter in the wild are scrambled, but they can be scrambled according to tiers - route 1 will still have very early level pokemon, just not only the boring usual (hoot hoot, the ferret thing, ect.)

1). Download the randomizer
2). Download the ROM of whichever pokemon game
3). Select the settings you want, which are all explained, easy to understand
4). Select save, the ROM is now randomised
5).load into whatever Emulator and play
You'd have to follow the nuzlocke rules yourself, but that's super easy too.

>>388681696
You should be gassed for being autistic on a video game board.

>>388680631
Because for as much as it has problems, and there are problems, it's the first game in a long time that really tried to shake up the formula. There are boss Pokemon now. Not just trainers who's Pokemon or fed a couple more rare candies than normal. Hm slaves are finally gone and thank Christ in heaven for that because hm's were the worst. Even though I don't like that the MCs Quest got put on the back burner Lillie and gladion were the strongest Pokemon characters in a long time as far as what their motives were and what they were willing to do to get it. As our team skull who's the first evil team in forever who weren't looking to take over the world for some stupid reason and arent feared by the populace despite being capable of being annihilated by 10 year olds.

Pokemon Sun Moon did plenty of things right. That's why a lot of people like them. It's just that they also did a lot of things wrong like get rid of PSS for the stupid ass battle tower and the million billion cutscenes and how obvious it is that you're being railroaded across a certain path. Also being able to cure off status ailments outside of battle. I know what they were going for but that reduces planning for entering a new area and Pokemon already has a little planning as it is.

>>388679671
>Sun and Moon was really bad.
Even worse when you consider that it was supposed to be the 20th anniversary celebration of the franchise.
Shit was so bad I downloaded RPG Maker and Pokemon Essentials to try and make my own game instead.

>>388681764
I did a Nuzlock challenge once. Some weird shit starts happening when you do those types of playthroughs. For me I started Charmeleon only for him to die halfway through the adventure. My heart sink through the floor but I did continue to challenge. You know who ended up being my MVP? Fearow. There has never been an instance outside of that run where I voluntarily used Fearow.

>>388680617
are you talking about Masafumi Nukita? I can't find much about his other games and would be interested to read about what you're talking about

>>388680115
Nah, it's 2D. The sprites are made using images of the 3D world models from directly above though, essentially turning the pseudo 3D style of the DS games into a 2D tileset.

>>388680967
As an alternative to a Nuzlocke run, there are romhacks out there that make the game more difficult. They're very well done and don't make it hell mode but it's not a cake walk either.

Storm Silver, Blaze Black, etc

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Has there ever been a remake where the art style/graphics were drastically changed and it was an improvement?

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>>388682119
I'm the anon you responded to.
You make alot of good points and I respect that. The game just wasn't for me, personally.
Also, the cutscenes thing really fucking killed me. I like the plot and lore in Pokemon games but, Jesus Christ the cutscenes.

>>388682313
When I play now, I try to not use the obvious strong as fuck mons.

So Fearow is always the first bird I go for cause he's so underused.

>>388674512
I don't even think the M&L remake looks bad, but who the fuck asked for it? Why is it necessary?

Not exactly remakes, but I hate how Gen V zooms in on the sprites so much, both in the overworld and in-battle. I can't appreciate the supposed beauty of Skyarrow if the game keeps focusing on a low-res backsprite of Hilda, nor can I enjoy battles with them moving around like puppets all the time. I'd take static sprites over the unnatural movements of BW sprites.
Doesn't help that it started almost all the problems modern Pokemon games have, but everyone ignores it by saying BW/BW2 did it better or by claiming the BW2 postgame negates every other negative aspect

>>388669915
You're so cool for preferring the more outdated and retro graphics, OP. Truly a god amongs, anons. You're clearly the superior gamer since shiny new graphics don't matter to you. Thank goodness you took the time to start a thread to show us how refined and against the grain your tastes are.

Bravo, good sir, bravo.

+1 interwebz XD

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>>388682528
Zero Mission for me though not sure how accepted that is.

>>388682409
i dont know his name im afraid, i just hear people here complain about it and the the japanese hated it too

>>388670424
Turtles in time has a remake?

>>388682846
I think it was a Summer of Arcade title for 360, I remember playing it with a friend and having fun but I never did play the original

>>388682752
I've never heard a bad thing about Zero Mission other than the statues. Even though all but one of the statues can be avoided.

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>>388682886

>>388682846
It's so bad. Even children born after the remake would prefer the original.

Metroid
Metroid II

>>388682752
looks pretty gud

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>>388682846
remake of the arcade version with shit music

>>388680246
Failed creative writing class to eh?

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i honestly hate the look of most DS games. the pseudo 3D is so fucking UGLY and there tends to be too much blurriness. It's gross. Give me the original G/S over the remakes any fucking day

>>388683105
>to
And you failed English 101, I presume.

>>388682574
And that's why I will probably never play through sun and moon again. Because even though it's cool to first time around, at least for me, doing it a second time might drive me nuts because now I already know where everything leads. I mean I knew from the beginning I just wanted to see how the game was going to do it. But I probably wouldn't go through it multiple times like I did for Generations 1 through 3.

>>388682954
Oh yeah. That one was so bad they pulled it from stores within a few months.

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>the original Legend of Zelda will never get a fancy graphical remake

This hurts me so much. I want the exact same game and mechanics and controls, same everything, but just really nice graphics

>>388683105
What the fuck is creative writing class
How does that even work

I will never play a Pokémon game again until they implement a harsher difficulty setting. Or at least customizable rules and restrictions.

>>388673436
Gen 2 will always be my favorite.

>>388683364
A class where you have to write creatively.

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>>388682846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqqhWrppAu4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnFcArSTmD8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHcXCOhFwbY

>>388679305
Me, too. They almost always ruin whatever game, book, movie, or show they're in.

>>388683405
just play Sun without Z crystals and the EXP share

>>388683339
Man I don't know if I love or hate the original Zelda. Because on the one hand it's one of those games where you find secrets months after you complete the game. On the other hand it's so obscure that you almost need a guide to complete it.

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>>388683179
I too hate the DS/3DS aesthetic. Cheap, 3D chibishit models is such a cancer, especially when the 3DS can actually handle decent graphics like DQVIII. It makes developers like IntSys and even Nintendo themselves look both lazy and talentless.

>You lived long enough to see Bravely Default for its unoriginal gameplay, hack writing and lazy aesthetic

>>388683426
Best atmosphere, best mon, best balls, best endgame.

Also,
>that Lance teamup

>>388683179
weird, I vastly prefer the right

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>>388674284
Emulated GameCube best version.

>>388683512
Sun Moon is still kind of easy even like that. With a couple of exceptions. Like a couple of the totem Pokemon or Hau kicking you in the dick with alolan Raichu on Ula Ula Island

>>388683339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv0rbIZNEMA

>>388683101
Reshelled has to be the most disappointing game I've ever purchased.

>>388682784
thanks anyway. It's surprisingly difficult to find info on pokemon writers. No one's even creditted as a writer, just 'game dialogue designers'

>>388683339
it did in japan

>>388683179
>>388683592

thats liquid crystal, a fan game not hgss

>>388683512
I hate doing off-game restrictions. I already play on the 'set' style and the does help, I'll admit.

It's amazing how mid-battle healing breaks the game but nothing is ever done to balance it out.

Plus, Sun and Moon have some of the ugliest and bastardized designs in the series.
How can I take the game serious with those Digletts?

>>388683792
try vp when the character is mentioned

>>388683592
the right isn't an official pokemon game, HGSS look different than that iirc. That seems to be the gen 3 artstyle, which aside from the terrain, is still pretty routed in 2D and sprites.
My main issue is how muddied pseudo 3D looks on the DS and their insistence on zooming in on it in a way that wasn't kind to the pixel density

>>388683932
"switch" is the easy setting

banning in-battle items might be fun

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>>388682119
Good post.

I want there to be an option to turn off the Pokemon-Amie boosts like increased evasion, auto-Focus Band and randomly shaking off status effects. I'd love to pet and brush my Pokemon and take part in these things that obviously boost the roleplaying aspect of the games, but the fact that doing so makes the battles even easier kills the chances of me ever touching that shit.

Also related to the roleplaying aspect, although Lillie and her family's story weren't terrible or anything, I found it a little dumb that as you put it, the player's quest got sidelined at times and there didn't seem to be a good reason for the player to always indulge in hanging out with Lillie. It's okay if my character is written as a goody-two-shoes who's going to protect other people from evil teams and what have you, but several times I noticed you go along with NPCs just because even if it has nothing to do with your primary motivation, the Island Challenge, or even just, say, Alola sightseeing. The series pushes journeying across the land to see and experience various sides of the world as a theme, but it sorta loses some of the meaning if you're always forced into things.

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>>388683592
Right is fanmade. This is what the official remake looks like.

>>388684172
Yeah, I know. I have no idea how any adult can play a Pokémon game on 'shift'. Why play video games if you want to beeeze through THAT easily? Plus, it pretty much cheating.

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>>388684216
HGSS style looks much better in sprites.

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>>388683179
Looks like we have a nostalgiafag

>>388674284
>>388683665
more like why did they kill the cel-shading and make everything look like clay
same thing pissed me off for symphonia hd

>>388683179
Shiny Gold was really good but HGSS's overworld sprites are perfect.

>>388684216
>
As someone who played the original Gold and Silver and never played HG and SS, how can anyone think this looks good? It feels like something was lost in translation.

>>388684439
Isn't this platinum?

>>388683978
thanks, that did it

according to /vp/ it was actually Masafumi Nukita's friend that did the similar character. The other game was Oreshika: Tainted Bloodlines and the character is called Nueko

>>388683179
That's a GBA game on the right you autist

>>388683847
>a fan game
Speaking of; how do you guys feel about fan remakes? Like them? Hate them?
How do you feel about ones that redesign areas or otherwise add entirely new features?

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>>388675207
This series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cob049udZY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzp-dp9NPCw

>>388673436
>tfw still have my crystal version
>battery no longer works

>>388673436
This

Even though HeartGold/SoulSilver are amazing, I prefer the visuals and night-time in GSC.

>>388684450

The right honestly looks so much better and more appealing. That 2.5D of the remake is ugly as hell. I mean just look at it. The right image is clearly superior from an aesthetic standpoint

>>388683932
>I hate doing off-game restrictions.
To be fair, keeping the gen6/7 Exp Share on is more or less choosing to set the difficulty to "baby" instead of the usual "easy".

I like restricting myself only by shaving off the excess experience points. Only fights with NPC trainers allowed, or wild Pokemon that are so fast you can't run away from them easily. Since I'm already naturally indecisive about my team composition and keep swapping monsters around, it means I might reach the end of the game with a team of lv30-40s, and that means there's at least a chance for the NPCs to put up a bit of a fight.

>>388669915
The left clearly looks better than the right. Nostalgiafags are a disease.

>>388685567
>muh childhood game looks better cuz I say so!
Whatever you say, nostalgiafag

>>388683179
I thought HG/SS looked good. The only things I hated about that game was some of the music changes and Lyra. And before anyone starts screaming about me being a Krisfag, I don't care about Kris one bit. I just don't like the whole gender you didn't pick being your neighbor/best friend thing and always butting in during the game. Sun and Moon did away with that, at least.

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>>388683697
Thanks but that doesnt' even look any different. Same pixellated bullshit, same old ass forgotten NES.

>>388676269
the ecruteak tune is simply GOAT

>>388685330
It takes 2 minutes at most to replace it.

>>388685713
>same pixellated bullshit
It literally isn't.

>>388684450
Why the fuck did HGSS have that neon turquoise grass? It looks atrocious.

>>388685175
On the one hand I like the improvements to the battle systems overtime. Don't get me wrong I like red and blue but I personally find FireRed and LeafGreen more enjoyable. Same thing goes for HeartGold and SoulSilver. I would like Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire but they got it some of the features so I still play Emerald even though I don't hate the other two. With that said some of the new features are hit-and-miss. Gen 1 desperately needs a real post game. Kanto has no identity. Episode Delta, while I respect the attempt, is borderline fanfiction.

>>388675076
Man HGSS has a very hit-or-miss OST. The good ones are really fucking good and the bad ones are pure shit, there's no in between.

>>388685867
it looks better and more natural than radioactive poppy green from the original

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>>388669915
What could have been...
Selling off part of Rare was a mistake

>>388673436
>Gen 2 coming to 3DS eshop
>Already have it on my computer
>Realize I just want to sit back with a handheld device and play it
Well fuck me looks like I'm a cuck.

>>388676981
kanto had sort of a creepy and cyberpunk feel to it, frlg is too polished

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>>388685851
Yeah it is. The colors are slightly changed and the audio is more muffled. Big improvement \o/ why is it that nintendo's graphics look the same in 1983 as they do today?

>>388685647
I like using the Exp share during the postgame since that means less switching while raising new team members. I can expand my team very quickly with it. But I definitely see what you mean during the main campaign. By the time you get to the third gym your Pokemon are basically gods to most of the populace with it on.

>>388686030
Oh, I see. You're someone else.

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>>388685713
Are you blind or just stupid?

>>388685971
wut. The remake was fine. You know what 10 year old me would have done to make a version of this for a gameboy i could carry around?

>>388685983
I'm of the opinion that Canto was run by mad scientist. Between the one scientist who invented perfect cloning technology, to the other scientist that accidentally turned himself into a Clefable somehow, to the other guy who invented a sentient computer program, to the other guy that created a Pokemon so powerful it's still a threat 6 Generations later.

>>388685965
What are you talking about? GSC's grass looks a hell of a lot more like actual grass than HGSS.

>>388685175
ShinyGold or whatever was great and satisfied my gen2 craving until HGSS came out. That's my only experience with fan remakes though, so I guess I'll go with liking them.
Provided they don't do anything stupidly drastic like changing Viridian Forest to Viridian Desert or shit like that I think I'd prefer them over a straight remake. New maps would be cool, especially in a region like Kanto that seems woefully under-designed compared to newer regions due to the mapping limitations of the original games.

>>388686243
>The remake was fine
>worse audio
>tracks made easier
>tacked on touch controls for awkward start boost and crappy coin courses that replaced races

>>388686291
If they do another Kanto remake, which I hope they don't, I hope they expand on Silph Co and their place in the country since that seems to be the only big thing in Kanto. Like maybe some of their products change the landscape somehow and they have a lot of gadgets.

>>388686243
Yay...now I can play as Raj or another monkey

I miss Banjo

The time trials in the original were a fun challenge. I remember how excited I was when I unlocked TT as a playable character. Now you create your own time trials that are piss easy to complete

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>>388679790
Remake thinks they are trees too

>>388669915

for some reason i find remakes like this very ugly, not just aesthetically but also, weirdly, morally. It's like they just figured that sprucing up the tech a bit and putting in generic coloration makes it look "better" and they didn't really pay much attention to its artistic look. Its why the all stars version of SMB also kind of soured me. These remakes look cheap and ugly and devoid of inspiration.

>>388682965
>>388682886
>albw
>remake

>>388678451
I prefer DORARARAs personally

how much will GS on VC cost?

>>388686715
I think the problem with remix is that they don't take advantage of the leap in technology like they should. What I mean is they didn't have the capability to do the things they did in red and blue that they did in Emerald. So Emerald comes along and you think red and blue would get more than just a cosmetic facelift. I mean the Cosmetic facelift is important but what about more features. Scenarios that maybe couldn't fit in the game before. I mean Emerald has a scenario where you break up a fight between two literal Titans by getting a space dragon to play Mommy. You think red and blue can have a scenario different from just kicking Team Rocket out of Japanese MetLife again. Except they don't, aside for Mount Ember FireRed and LeafGreen are almost one to one with red and blue except with prettier graphics and an updated battle system. Which is cool if you never play red and blue before, but if you did then there's no reason really for you to play this game because you've done it all before. Here's an idea, how about the next time you remake a Pokemon game use the same region but jump forward and time. Maybe change out the gym leaders or expand the town's a little bit. I assume the country would change at least a little within a decade. Maybe a new evil team showed up? Or a new cave was discovered? Just something where I'm not walking the exact same steps that I walked 10 years ago.

All the Pokemon remakes don't really catch the feeling of the originals visually. FRLG comes the closest, but the protagonist redesigns clearly have more RSE design influence than every other updated trainer design and since you'll be seeing them the most it hampers things.

ORAS is the only one that really feels like it acknowledges this and embraces it. It kinda works, except where they recycle XY assets that don't mesh with the new Hoenn look or needed to be tweaked already in XY but remain unfixed.

>>388687230
Ten bucks.

>>388687387
Look I like action girls. I really really do. But does every female have to be an action girl now?

>>388673436
I'm a guy who doesn't like gen 2 that much and thinks its overrated af but the color palette is really good.

>>388673628
>posting the PC version with shit fog
I agree tho, Halo Anniversary a shit.

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>>388686489
>Like maybe some of their products change the landscape somehow and they have a lot of gadgets.
What do you mean by having their products change the landscape?
And what kind of gadgets would you suggest? Would they be things the player could use, or just things NPCs talk about?
Asking for a friend.

>>388673436
Gen 2 has great color choices and the battle sprites in Crystal are actually pretty high tier for GBC.

>>388685330
>still have my Crystal
>just doesn't work at all anymore, won't even boot
>whenever I see one in the shops it's some shit like forty bucks

>>388687516
Jazz, kill the monarch #uterus

>>388687230
Something like 6 or 7 dollars? There's also a retail version that is a cardboard box containing an eshop download code, and that's 10 bucks.

>>388676302
This. 100x better than the shit we have now

All the Pokemon ones. The first two gens' aesthetic was just great.

>>388687387
What the fuck?

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>>388687582
What's with the little white squares on the stairs and after the bridge? That a mark for a scripted event? The berry planting spots seem self evident.

Also what is this

>>388679305
There's a special place in hell for characters like her. "hey, you beat the game. Want some endgame content? Fuck you, have my fanfic snowflake you twat"

>>388687565
Quake too. I think the first game looks great, especially in software mode.

it just looks more appealing in 8 bit

>>388673628
how 343 fucked the tone of that level so hard when all they had to do was update the graphics is beyond me

this is a good video if you're autistic enough to care like myself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVAHfjIfj38

>>388683538
Unless you count finding all the secrets as completing the game there really isn't quite as much "obtuse" stuff as people claim. If we're going strictly by dungeons, every single one is either revealed in the manual or hinted at by an NPC.

>>388687926
Post game stuff that expands the backstory of a side character isn't a new thing. It can be very good if the character is likeable or interesting.

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>>388688027

shit forgot image

>>388675437
Personally I liked the horns, and think ORAS is overall on par in music. Some things are slightly better, some are slightly worse, most are about the same, and the new music is mostly unremarkable. I won't forgive Aqua/Magma Boss though. The clapping was easily the most memorable part of the song.

>>388678296
silent hill, because it was released

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-sVfgo3Irw >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkUfYfWOORQ

>>388678834
for max gym experience

>>388669915
every single game

/thread

>>388679790
>"I've never played Dwarf Fortress."

You must be 18 to post here.

>>388679575
holy shit this fuck yes

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>>388679575
>beautiful sprites
>posts something shitty from 7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNZ7gllxeZs

a remake of a remake of a remake?

>>388675437
All of this is subjective

>>388688512
worst version of the song

>>388687582
Like Silph Co invented the teleporters that saffron gym uses. So maybe they found a way to spread that technology to the other cities. But maybe the player character has to go on a mission to the power plant to connect some thingamabob to whatever is needed to turn it on. And then this can function as a replacement for hm2. Instead of forcing you to put a fly Pokemon on your team you can use the teleporters to jump from City to City. It works because you can get it off until the second half of the game when you actually make it to Saffron City and Silph Co. And you can maybe make it so you have to get a city key to unlock each City's teleporter so you can't teleport to cities you haven't been to yet. Also Silph Co invented the goggles that let you see ghosts. Maybe something can be done with that? Maybe there's an evil team that uses psychics and ghosts to affect trainers and Pokemon and you use the goggles to help in some way. I only bring that up because I always found it weird that you never needed the goggles again in any other game even though you have to jump through hoops to get it. I'm sure with time and ingenuity you can come up with a lot of things that can make the game easier in and out of battle. Like how in Gentoo they had a machine that can make Pokemon angrier with just sound waves. So instead of the boost items maybe you have some sort of Soundwave thing that can make your Pokemon more aggressive and they hit harder but they take more damage due to being reckless or more susceptible to confusion. I mean you'd have to work with it to balance it, these are just things coming off the top of my head. Maybe whatever evil team you fight is using this kind of tech stolen from Silph to make Pokemon that were normally weak and make them stronger like the totem Pokemon. So you fight a guy who can use his whatever machine to give his Pokemon higher crit rates without setting up.

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>>388687902
They're just to change the passability of the bridge to allow the player to walk on/under it when needed.
I'm remaking Kanto with redesigned maps, some entirely new optional areas, and some extra features in Pokemon Essentials for RPG Maker XP. That's Route 22; the road from Viridian City to the Pokemon League.

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>>388679305
She's a huge fucking shit. Her character would almost work if they straight up put her backstory in the game, maybe make it so there's actually a Draconid village in Meteor Falls to learn about their culture and her circumstances instead of barely alluding to it, but nah, too much work. Let the fans read interviews. Even then she'd still be extremely abrasive and it would just become a full on idiot plot.

She made a good reaction image, though.

>>388680617
It was a friend of his who did said character. It was one in Oreshika 2, I think Nueko was the character's name? They even patched that game to make her less important the backlash was so big.

Nukita was one of the writers for the Pokedex entries in SM, which is why you have stuff like Lucario's entries treating it like a pack predator or shit like Gengar's entry which is just embarrassing.

>Should you feel yourself attacked by a sudden chill, it is evidence of an approaching Gengar. There is no escaping it. Give up.

I also theorize him suddenly leaving Game Freak for a job at Sega during SM's development might be why the game doesn't have a National Pokedex, since Game Freak wanted new entries for every single Pokemon.

>>388682673
so that you can play the enitre series on one device.

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>>388676302
>>388676721
>not prefering the GOAT pixel art in FFIV on PSP
wtf

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>>388679305
I mean you guys can't deny she had a 10/10 design.

>>388676302
I was waiting for them to remake V like them ever since the IV remake, but it never happened. I guess it's nice SoM is getting one.

>>388689056
It feels like RPG Maker stock stuff, the portraits in particular bug me. I like the rebalancing IV DS does more too.

>>388688586
Fuchsia City also has the Safari Zone so maybe over time the city evolved to be kind of a national park. I mean technically speaking the park is already there, they have a Kabuto right next to the PokeMart along with a few others on display. Maybe Pewter City is some kind of Museum or place of History. And they use the teleporters to gather things from the seafoam Island since seafoam Island is totally uninhabited and yet right around the corner from a major gym. Viridian City seems like it should be more important considering it's at the front door of the Indigo League, the centerpiece of TWO different countries. I'm just throwing ideas off rapid fire.

https://youtu.be/OqDi3jTHKiA?t=1085

>>388688884
>Lucario's entries treating it like a pack predator
What's the problem with this? None of the previous entries had any info on how they live in the wild, just stuff about their aura abilities.

That Gengar entry is pretty laughable, though.

>>388689056
I liked the PSP FFIV remakes too, I just thought that the style used in the III & IV DS remakes looked nice (or at least a lot nicer than the phone garbage).

>>388689183
Don't like her design either.

>>388689183
fuck I played the game when it was released and I don't remember her at all

>>388689523
I actually don't have a problem with that, just saying it's something you'd find surprising for them to do with that Pokemon.

>>388688729
Cool. I already figured what route it was supposed to be; I was just interested in what your project was about.

>>388689183
Lose the cape and the design would have been better.

>>388675076
>GoldenRod city
Fuck the Nostalgia hit me way harder than expected.

How fuckin' easy to emulate gbc games on android?

>>388689642
She shows up at the ass end of the game, annoys everyone, forces you up the Sky Pillar, and gets stomped while you steal Rayquaza away from her.

>>388689696
I think the idea behind the cape was to show that she's a wild child and not very civilized

>>388689656
>it's something you'd find surprising for them to do with that Pokemon.
I guess. Though SM did already cross into whole new territory with the entries on Mega Evolved monsters. I honestly like that Mega Evolved Pokemon get a little fucked up,
it explains why you need to 'bond' with the Pokemon and why they're a temporary thing.

>>388689183
>Ripped cape
>Red and Black color scheme

Give her some heels and she would be just another edgelord girl like Ryuko and Velvet.

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>>388689484
kys

>>388683405
Romhacks are your friend.

>>388683405
Black 2 has a challenge mode

>>388689484
trance was a mistake

>>388675582
>trees
That doesn't explain the ones in the ocean

>>388689973
> the pain of mega evolving puts Mega Aerodactyl in a constant state of violent rage

Jesus that's actually kind of fucked up

>>388674704
Guys, they're bushes.

>>388688586
>>388689313
Some pretty good ideas here. Building further on the unique features of each city is something I particularly like.

>>388683179
>the pseudo 3D is so fucking UGLY
whaaaaaat
I love seeing the sprites on 3D. Especially in BW/2.

>>388690302
> mega evolving effects Gyarados brain to where it's incapable of doing anything but destroying everything around it
> mega evolving Pinsir puts it in a constant state of excitement that it can't come down from
> the extra energy Scizor gains from mega evolving can't get through its armor, and is broiling alive for as long as the battle continues

What the fuck are these Pokedex entries? This is some team rocket shit