post yfw sonic mania ended up flopping after all

File: Are_you_serious.png (12KB, 226x223px)

12KB, 226x223px

>>388649323
>92 products
>1 review

and im supposed to believe these are legitimate reviews?

LOL is this for real

Can't say this reception is undeserved

What's so bad about Denuvo?

>>388649570
You have to be always online for a single player game

Fuck whitehead.

At some point you have to hold people responsible. You don't get to slink behind the corporate facade. This is a fucking travesty. Was going to buy it, will now pirate it.

SONIC WAS NEVER GOOD

>>388649323
>sub level 20 reviewers
lol

File: 1484811635907.jpg (244KB, 1109x1479px) Image search: [Google]

244KB, 1109x1479px

Third world problems and middle of fucking nowhere problems.

At the end of the day, it ain't my problem :^)

>Denuvo
>have to be always online

What the fucking shit?

>>388649617
Do you not have internet or something? I think you have bigger issues other than whether you can play a fucking video game.

>>388649617
So do you turn off your Internet connection when not playing anything or actually doing anything?

I've never understood the always online gripe.

File: 1486298076445.gif (126KB, 720x480px) Image search: [Google]

126KB, 720x480px

>>388649752

>>388649617
No you dont

File: very positive.png (118KB, 337x286px) Image search: [Google]

118KB, 337x286px

>this kills the /v/

>>388649868
>the fucking cuck defends always-online drm
Nu-/v/, everyone.

>>388649904
You have to be online when you first launch it (so after its downloaded) and then it rechecks every 3 months or so.

You can play it offline. You wont even notice the game has drm.

File: be8.png (178KB, 330x319px) Image search: [Google]

178KB, 330x319px

>Its a "lets cherry pick a few negative reviews when it's 85% positive" episode
Pretty pathetic, piratecucks absolutely buttblasted.

>>388649868
>For whatever reason internet goes down.
>Ok, no biggie, I'll just play one of my offline games.
>Can't enjoy mania because denuvo.

Torrent when?

>>388649868
>>388649904
what happens on the completely inevitable day that denuvo goes under and can't operate their servers anymore? no DRM solution has maintained its effectiveness forever and when it's old hat to crack groups people will stop buying

File: 1497780344377.jpg (37KB, 448x500px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 448x500px

>Buying the game to complain in a review that you can't steal it

>>388649323
>buyers baited by pirate fags to hate denuvo
stop giving pirate fags an excuse to be scum
there's nothing wrong with denuvo if you're buying the game, pirate fags just hate it cause it means they have to wait a couple weeks to pirate so they false flag as buyers to complain

File: screw you I'm going home.gif (2MB, 400x250px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 400x250px

>>388649478
>>388649752
>>388649818
>>388649819
>>388649868
>>388649904
>>388649991
>>388650016
Nu-/v/, everybody.

why do pcbros get so triggered by denuvo, is it because it stops piracy

>Delayed for Denuvo
LOL

>>388650267
>cause it means they have to wait a couple weeks
reminder: the shortest denuvo crack time was less than a day

>>388649478
>92 games

Yes?

Like how fucking many of your games have you reviewed? I never review anything unless it makes me angry for some reason.

>>388649323
Why do people get so worked up over Denuvo? Isn't it just a limit of 5 installs per day? If you are doing more than that it is obviously not for your own personal use. I have no problem with Denuvo in Mad Max, the game worked fine.

>>388650353
1 day or 2 weeks it still makes pirates piss themselves

>>388650284
>old /v/ was a bunch of Brazilians

>>388649323
you can just buy it on console I dont get it

>>388649323
>people not affected by denuvo complaining about denuvo

Fucking PC gamers are such babies.

>>388650435
it was so seamless I didn't even know mad max had denuvo
like 80% of the time I'd never know denuvo even existed if pirate fags didnt cry about it

>>388649868
What if you want to play Sonic Mania in a roadtrip?

>>388650189
>For whatever reason internet goes down.
Doesn't happen in 1st world countries, Americuck. Complete non-issue that is as likely as a post apocalyptic future.
>>388650229
You do know that devs can just update their games to remove the DRM, right? It's been done before for other DRM infested titles back when SecuROM busted.

>>388649991

Yes you do. Fucking test it yourself. It will NOT RUN if you're not online.

>>388649868
>>388649904

Hit Mattrick

In case you don't remember, you shitty console got destroyed for this exact fucking reason. People do not want always-online bullshit, not even if they're online 99% of the time. Its the other 1% that matters.

>sonic mania 2 will be switch exclusive
feels good

File: 1489011032970.jpg (45KB, 387x337px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 387x337px

>>388650284
>its always online drm!
no its not
>n-nu /v/!!

>>388650551

Or when you're camping in the Australian outback.

Denuvo = your game doesn't exist

>>388650435

It's so much more than that you moron, look it up yourself, I'm not going to list all the shit it does again for your retarded ass.

File: 1475108649124.png (285KB, 720x720px) Image search: [Google]

285KB, 720x720px

>>388650678
If it doesn't exist then how am I enjoying it and having fun with it? Piratefag mental gymnastics are hilarious.

File: 1472605067345.jpg (98KB, 580x326px) Image search: [Google]

98KB, 580x326px

>>388649868
this, we're always on anyway :)

>>388650626

It literally is always-online DRM. You cannot play Sonic Mania offline. Fucking try it.

>>388650701
>I-its bad I'm not gonna post proof tho

>game gets delayed for 2 weeks at the last minute
>destroys all my plans that i had to play the game
>game finally comes out
>find out that the delay is for pointless drm that will be cracked in a day and doesn't affect me anyways because i fucking bought it
for fucks sake
does this mean that the game won't be moddable?

>>388650806
Is it the same for switch and ps4?

>tfw you have the superior version of Sonic Mania

>PCFATS CAN'T PLAY THEIR GAME OFFLINE

AYYY LAMO

PC masterrace huh

>>388649478
Clearly you are a retard. Most of humanity does not review products or give opinions unless they fucking love or hate it.

It's the same reason a youtube vid might have 500 million views and only 500,000 likes and 5,000 dislikes.

>>388650779
>this guy lost his job defending always-online DRM and /v/ laughed at him
>nu-/v/ defends always-online DRM with the exact same arguments he used

>>388650889
no

>>388650806
>You cannot play Sonic Mania offline. Fucking try it.

>person online complaining they can't play a downloadable PC game offline.

LOL

>>388650414
notice how its usually meme reviews and responses.

File: 1484880649718.jpg (205KB, 1600x1097px) Image search: [Google]

205KB, 1600x1097px

>>388650863
>destroys all my plans that i had to play the game
What the fuck does this even mean? Are you a soccer mom?
>does this mean that the game won't be moddable?
Are you new to PC gaming? Name 5 games within the last decade where you mod the game via it's executable


Holy shit you people are so fucking stupid

Do people really have a problem with always online?
You're using Steam, you should have thrown all entitlement out the window already.

Why would you want to be offline anyways?

>>388650889

Of course not, Denuvo is a PC-only disease. Consoles don't have any of this bullshit.

File: b4f.png (9KB, 353x291px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 353x291px

>complains about denuvo
>willingly cucks himself to steam

>>388649323
>pcbros this assblasted.
i would laugh, but this shit is sad.
this is why PC doesnt get any games and dont deserve it either.

>>388650779
status: #TOLD

>>388650579
Yeah, I live in a shithole where the internet goes down every now and then. So, because of that I shouldn't be allowed to play Mania?

File: tekken 7.png (785KB, 1432x891px) Image search: [Google]

785KB, 1432x891px

>>388650580
wierd i own this game and game play it offline hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

File: 1487652245299.png (91KB, 798x261px) Image search: [Google]

91KB, 798x261px

>>388650863
>does this mean that the game won't be moddable?
I work for SEGA and the game is moddable, now buy it you stupid goy

>>388651046

I like you don't have anything even resembling a fucking argument but post anyway.

Denuvo is cancer. You're defending cancer. You are cancer.

>>388651046
>the retard uses the "b-but you bought the game online ME SMART DUDE IRONY" argument

Are you for fucking real?

>>388651115
You have more important issue to worry about if you live in a shithole, stop playing video games.

>>388651059

It's just jobless NEETs complaining about not being able to pirate.

>>388649323
>Ruining potential great games with shit DRM that doesn't even help against piracy.
What a bunch of fucktards.

>>388649868
>thunderstorm
Yay, I love perfecting my game in Sonic Mania.
>internet goes out
Well shit. There goes my perfect run. Really wish I could play this single player game that I fucking bought and own however I like.

>>388651152
>it works for me

>>388651202
>>388651209
nice dodges

i like how you both don't have anything even resembling a fucking argument but post anyway

>>388651152
DELETE THIS

>>388651152

Tekken 7 is not Sonic Mania, retard. Sonic cannot be played offline. It has been tested. Test it yourself, retard.

>>388651279
>doesnt help
>takes months to be cracked

people get impatient. Its the same reason PC versions of games always come out after to try and get people to double dip

>>388651053
i have a job you retard, i took time off to play this stupid fucking game over a month in advance
i even bought snacks and shit because i was so excited

also i just tried playing the game offline, literally doesn't work. fantastic.

>>388651152
Are you for real?
Denuvo is the thing that has to connect to the internet, not steam.

>>388651237
Don't deflect from the original point. I hate people who make "arguments" like you.

>>388651152
>sets steam on offline mode while he is online
LOL

NICE VISUAL EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING KEK

>>388651372
Buy me sonic and il test it.

>>388651237
I have a pretty good life, fortunately. But no matter how much money you have, you can't pay a good, stable internet connection. I don't know what is so hard to understand, anon.

>>388650626
retard

>>388651202
>>388651209
>>388651304

>they're still making up fantasy scenarios about not being able to play the game when they're online and able to play it now.

Unless you didn't buy it which I'm pretty sure is the case.

>>388651359

The argument is clear. Denuvo is bad. Anyone who uses it or defends it deserves death. Sonic mania deserves death. Sega deserves death. You deserve death.

>>388651383
>have a job you retard, i took time off to play this stupid fucking game over a month in adv
>took time off
Thats so fucking stupid. Sorry you work in a sweatshop and work 12 hour shifts 7 days a week

>>388651372
I'm online now. Why do I need to disconnect my internet to see if a game works? That's not my problem.

>>388651513
>always online drm is good
>dude fantasy scenarios lmao
My fucking god. Nu-/v/ is fucking real.

>>388651053
>Name 5 games within the last decade where you mod the game via it's executable
All Bethesda games with script extenders.

>>388649904
>take laptop with me somewhere

>can't play fucking sonic the hedgehog if I don't have wifi

>>388651513

Of course I'm not going to buy it you retard, it has Denuvo. I will never buy anything with Denuvo in it. Any game that has Denuvo deserves to die, along with everyone who made it or touched it.

hey guys does the developer's team get money or is it sega only?because if its only sega getting the money im refunding it


if not im still gonna support the dev who was forced to add the drm i guess

>>388651621

Well eat shit then you dumb nigger, you have nothing to contribute to the thread or the world in general.

Literally every negative review is complaining about denuvo. Sega isn't going to apologize for trying to protect their game from piracy and you shouldn't expect them, or any other game company, to. This is the cost of PC even having a version at all so deal with it.

>>388651683
FANTASY
SCENARIO

>>388650972
>nu-/v/ defends always-online DRM with the exact same arguments he used
>Falling for reddit (you) baiting in 2017

>>388651464
If you live in such a post-apocalyptic wasteland where you're completely unable to log onto Steam then yes, you should be fucking worrying about better shit other than playing a Sonic game. The point I was trying to make is all these non-existent situations are a complete hyperbole to how real life operates.

>>388651490
>I have a pretty good life
>doesn't have stable internet connection
Uh-huh, OK.

>>388651513
>what is being on an airplane
>what is traveling at all
fucking kill yourself

>>388651791
The devs already got paid. Sales goals might result in bonuses and additional projects depending on the contract, but almost all of the profits are going to Sega. This is how capitalism works.

>>388651646
Welp you win I'm out

>>388651838
>This is the cost of PC even having a version at all so deal with it.
I don't have to deal with it.

>negative reviews for DRM

durrrr i'm a gamer duurrrr i comment durrrrrrr BAD BAD durrrrr

>>388651920
>unironically playing video games on an airplane
BING BING WAHOO

>>388651880
MY FUCKING SIDES

THIS RETARD IS FOR FUCKING REAL HAHAHAHAHAHA

DENUVO

CLAP

ISNT

CLAP

ALWAYS

CLAP

ONLINE

CLAP

DRM

>>388651683
>Playing video games in public
>Not having a phone to tether to your PC

Which one is it?

>>388651791
I think it just goes to Sega. You buying it also let's Sega know Christian Whitehead did a good job and they will have more incentive of letting him make more games under them. So pick your poison

>>388649904

There's a million fucking things that can cause you to not have internet for some amount of time. Maybe you fucking moved. Maybe you're visiting your grandmother in East Bumfuck. Maybe the connection is fucked again because you live in America and only have shitty internet that never works. Not having internet should have NO impact on a fucking SINGLE PLAYER GAME.

There is literally no way to defend this shit. No argument is valid in defense of Denuvo.

>>388651920
Most planes have free wifi. Nice try poorshitter. I'm sure Ivan will crack it for you in a few weeks.

>>388651448
Well i just unconnected to the wifi and did it again...

It worked. Im not gonna put in the effort to put together a whole webm to prove denovu isnt allways online drm to retards like >>388651469

>>388652176
nice fantasy scenarios

>>388651880
>I have a pretty good life
>doesn't have stable internet connection
Uh-huh, OK.

>His life depends on how good his internet connection is.
Ok, anon. Whatever makes you happy...

File: 1452955464888.jpg (42KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 500x500px

>>388649617
>You have to be always online for a single player game

Unlike Steam?

Steam is one big DRM.

>>388652047
this, it's just on launch DRM, like xbox was going to be

>>388652282
>what is offline Steam
I play basically all my steam games offline all the fucking time retard

>>388650779
I'm still so satisfied this asshat got fired.

Even basic electricity is not "always on". Look at current Texas for that.

File: 1484270912903.png (88KB, 294x258px) Image search: [Google]

88KB, 294x258px

Reminder that there is literally no valid criticism of Denuvo. "muh always online" "muh SSD lifetime" "muh game performance" are all false rumors started by butthurt pirates.

>>388652176
>None of these things currently affect you and you could have been playing the game instead of crying on /v/ about the 1% of the year you go without an internet connection

is supporting DRM the new ebin troll around here? how can you support it and not literally work for Denuvo I don't understand

Is there even any proof that there is denuvo and not another form of drm?

>>388652410
How is "always online" a false rumor?

>>388649323
Sonic Mania didn't, SEGA did.
They had one job, a simple port. Nothing huge. Just A to B carry over.

Instead they cocked up controllers, added drm, and still left in a shit ton of bugs they claimed the delay was for.
FANTASTIC WORK SEGA!

>>388649868
Yeah, but I'm not paying $20 for that shit.
I'm sure SEGA doesn't care about me refunding anyway, right?

>>388652387
>the drm is temporary
Like it was for every other Denuvo game

>>388652342
You have to log on to steam first.

In theory you might be able to bypass this with some coding, but at that point you might as well pirate or buy the gog version.

Steam is very much a DRM. That's even why devs put it there in the first place.

>>388652518
Denuvo isnt a always online drm service. Whatever Sonic Mania is using is something different than regular denuvo drm

>twenty fucking dollars for a sonic game
what the hell

>>388652478
Trolling and shilling both. Sure a few people may legit feel its fair to get screwed over, but not as many as show up in these threads.

>>388652410
Denuvo is just the scapegoat pirates use to rationalize and justify what they do, saying it's because of DRM that they "have to" pirate it. The truth is they just don't want to pay and are making excuses.

>>388649323
IT DOES NOT HAVE DENUVO YOU FUCKTARDS
IT SAYS NOTHING ON THE STORE PAGE

File: lol no refund for you.png (31KB, 315x190px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 315x190px

>steam users

File: srtujrt.jpg (199KB, 600x438px) Image search: [Google]

199KB, 600x438px

>buy game on console
>can play it offline just fine

>>388652478
>is supporting DRM the new ebin troll around here? how can you support it and not literally work for Denuvo I don't understand

steam is drm

i mean some people hate on gog while praising steam

>>388652779
I know you're a retarded 5 year old but you realize that what goes on the store page isn't entirely decided by the developer/publisher and they aren't obligated to tell you anything.

In fact, a curator was created that does nothing but highlight Denuvo games specifically because they don't have to tell you.

File: not denuvo.png (22KB, 566x841px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 566x841px

Its not denuvo. Sega has put its own shit on the game that wont launch the game at all if you arnt connected to steam.

Denuvo only needs the first launch to be online.

The Reviews on this are absolutely hysterical. Denuvo itself isn't bad, but the fact that we were outright lied to when they said the delay was not for the sake of DRM, on top of the game not informing us of Denuvo is what kills the deal.

File: IMG_6410.jpg (109KB, 352x927px) Image search: [Google]

109KB, 352x927px

/v/ BTFO.

>>388649323
I AGREE 100%
THEY SHOULD ADD THAT INFO TO THE STORE PAGE
THEY CAN'T SELL YOU A GAME THAT HAS DRM BY SURPRISE

>>388653205
>outright lied to when they said the delay was not for the sake of DRM

Do you have proof of this? DRM could've already been in and it was delayed for other reasons.
This is your baseless specualtion on your part.

>>388653102
>for the first launch

LOL

>>388653421
Yes, after you download a game from the internet, you launch the game while still connected to the internet. Then you dont need to be online to play for about 3 months

>>388652636
>You have to log on to steam first
But you don't.

>>388653287
>denuvo will probably be removed later
Why do they keep saying this, has this actually happened after the first month launch window for any game?

>>388652781

>bought it off some key site
lol

Why is /v/ so entitled?

>>388653605
>But you don't.

Unless they recently changed this, yes you do.

wtf i have to pay for my games?

>>388653593
>can download a game but not be online when launching it for the first time

really activates the almonds.

>>388653643
I'm sorry for having standards. Maybe one day I'll be a total bitch like you who bends the knee.

>>388653639
quit google search shows DOOM and Mass Effect Andromeda had denuvo removed after it was cracked.

Squeenix removed its drm for Lightning Returns too, but that wasnt denuvo

File: 39a.gif (2MB, 615x413px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 615x413px

>using steam
>complaining about any form of drm

File: 1468284248214.png (583KB, 754x517px) Image search: [Google]

583KB, 754x517px

>>388649323
Sonic Mania is not fun on it's first playthrough tbqh.
Subsequent playthroughs are much better though.

I was going to buy it since I really wanted to play but Steam is giving me trouble and not taking my PayPal balance, so fuck Steam and fuck SEGA. I'll just wait for the inevitable crack.

>>388653814
Why are you on 4chan? You have to be online to use this site.

>>388653728
Denuvo is literally the most unintrusive DRM but reddit crackwatch has convinced everyone its aids because its hard to crack

>>388653639
It happened once or twice and never again and was a tiny portion of all the games who have Denuvo.

File: you.jpg (1MB, 3840x2160px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 3840x2160px

>>388653925

>>388653814
>bends the knee
/r/gameofthrones is that way >>

>>388653102
>Its not denuvo
https://support.codefusion.technology/SonicMania_8ahn2e/

>>388650247
>piracy is stealing

lmfao get real segashill

>>388654017
>.co.uk
Hmmmmm

File: FFXIV_Logo[1].png (432KB, 1017x550px) Image search: [Google]

432KB, 1017x550px

I HAVE TO PAY A MONTHLY FEE AND BE ONLINE?

>>388654005
>i have no argument

>>388654212
Agreed, you don't.

File: 1385957198063.gif (1MB, 400x287px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 400x287px

>>388650106
>disc checks dont matter
>you use the disc to play xD
>limited installs wont matter
>you only install it once xD
>system scans dont matter
>you are using the pc to play anyway xD
i wish i could DRM your oxygen supply. fucking sheeple.

>>388654026
DDDD

X

>>388654135
>comparing a singleplayer game to a fucking mmo

Nu-/v/, everyone

File: Property-tax-e1435661597138.jpg (44KB, 855x401px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 855x401px

I HAVE TO PAY A YEARLY FEE

>>388654258
are you gonna prove me wrong or keep deflecting?

>>388649323
>ruined
>Very Positive
>82% positive reviews
>the rest are whiny faggots that will get drowned out a few days after release

lol, keep crying, piratefags.

>>388650579

I live in malta sometimes being retarded sometimes we fuck up.

>>388654337
property tax is dumb

>>388654337
Property tax is even more bullshit than progressive income tax.

>>388649323
LMAO
Piratefags BTFO

>>388654353
How many (you)s does one man need? Have some self respect.

>Play game in my own language
>It seems all translated pretty well
>Go into settings
>Settings are all in English, not translated because the console version didn't have those lines of text
I waited two weeks more for this ( +denuvo +most bugs not fixed yet)?
Wow. Congratulations SEGA.
I just wish all those retarded fanboys that were defending the delay will now at least have the heart of hiding and shut up for a while.
Fuck you all.

>>388654360
>82% positive reviews

It's dropping by 1% like every 5 minutes. Used to be 86% just half an hour ago.

>tfw already beaten the game
>gonna beat it again tomorrow
Fucking good game. Like, god damn.

>>388651067
Ah yes, the "master race"

>>388649323
>I will never support those practices and you shouldn't as well!
>*buys game*

>>388649868
Good goy.

>>388650284

I dont give a shit i want to pirate this shit.

>>388651115
>>388654363
Oh I get it now.
People who don't support denuvo are a bunch of proto-humans

Why do you think your opinion matters lol?

>>388654463
oh okay. This isnt reddit you should try to discuss things instead of just doing the equivalent of a downvote without explaining how my facts arnt true.

>>388650414
This. I don't review games unless they are really bad (so no one else can suffer like me) or really good (so I shill for free).

>>388653673
Ok I just tried it and it works as long as you have the "remember me" function activated.
I admit is not perfect but I always have that activated anyway, why would I imput my username and password every time I use Steam anyway?

>>388649570
I can't use x360ce with this game. Therefore, I can't play the game with my Saturn controllers.

i already had to walk to mcdonald's just to download this game, and now you're telling me i have to walk all the way back just to play it?! i'm fuckin' refunding this shit!

File: the-problem-of-being-faster-than-light-is-that-you-can-only-live-in-darkness[1].jpg (52KB, 908x518px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 908x518px

Don't mock me my friend, it's a condition of mental divergence. I find myself on the planet Mobius, part of a hedgehog family, preparing to subjugate the barbarian horde of Dr. Ivo Robotnik. But even though this is a totally convincing reality for me in every way, nevertheless Mobius Prime is actually a construct of my psyche.. I am autistic, in that I am escaping certain unnamed realities that plague my life here. When I stop going there, I will be well. Are you also autistic, friend?

>>388654637

Because im a proto human,duh.

You ubermensch should just get it on and gas my ass i guess.

>>388654761
No you only have to play it at mcdonalds the first time you food analogy it

>>388654637
Anon I'm sorry but Steam gives you the chance to write a review no matter how brown you are.

>>388654675
The "remember me" function just automates the log-in process. You're still logging in.

>>388654761
>food analogy
AMERIFATS

>>388649323
>waaahhhhh why isnt everything free i just want to pirate and leech off of other peoples hard work! is that too much to ask!
Piratefags should be gassed and so should you OP.

>game comes out on console
>download it
>play
>have fun

>game comes out in PC
>need to be online at all times to play
>can't launch because I'm missing a DLL
>game won't pick up my controller
>game crashes when adjusting video settings
>refund game
>screenshot my refund and post it on /v/ to show everyone how mad I am
>pretend the game is complete shit and I never even liked it to begin with
>pirate it anyways 1 year later when the game gets cracked
>have fun

''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''MASTER RACE''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

I don't see the big deal. The last time I went without internet is when my power went out.

>>388655045

Stop being retarded.

>>388654663
you you youuuuuuuu got what i neeeeeeeddd but you say its just drm

File: 1447208267973.png (171KB, 311x335px) Image search: [Google]

171KB, 311x335px

>>388649323
>yfw this only means no Sega games on PC

>>388652282
I never understood this

When internet is off (like right now) I can go Offline Steam and play whatever I want. Like right now I'm playing Black Mesa and fuck Spectrum

>>388654983
>Wahhhhhhhh I'm a corporate shill wahhhhhhhhh downloading and digital copies have made by business model of selling games obsolete wahhhhhhh I need intellectual property laws and DRM so I can artificially create an industry wahhhhhh

Buying games is an obsolete practice. There is no longer a demand for buying games because we can just replicate your code. Deal with it, Segashill.

>>388654967
No you don't, it fails to log in and then asks you if you want to re-try or re-start in offline mode.
I disconnected my internet to do the testing, obviously.

so is it as good as freedom planet

>>388655210
After this clusterfuck, I don't think I'll ever buy a SEGA hame on PC for a long time.
Mania is the last one.

File: honest reviews.jpg (153KB, 768x1024px) Image search: [Google]

153KB, 768x1024px

>>388654594
you can leave a review then refund

but steam will delete your review if its negative when you do this. i have refunded 3 half assed games and the issues i listed in review were deleted.

one faggot dev also banned anyone posting bugs in the community page.

>>388649323
>This game is because I can't pirate it!
PC master race everyone

>>388654983
Case in point, this cuck. >>388655278

>>388654983
People complaining had to buy the game in order to complain though.

This was the first time I ever got angry about a delay. Optimizations my ass, I bought this shit and I hope they pirate this game to the ground.

File: youretard.png (105KB, 294x151px) Image search: [Google]

105KB, 294x151px

>>388654983
nice assumptions fag

>>388654735
that would make me mad too anon

>>388649570
Depends who you ask, but in reality, it makes it harder for people to pirate it. They'll use the excuses that you can't play offline or performance, but it always goes back to the fact that they can't pirate it and it upsets them. If there is one thing Denuvo has done, it is to show just how big of a problem piracy really is on PC.

>>388655319
The better question is, is Freedom Planet as good as mania?
I really enjoyed Mania but I'm already done with it after 5 playthroughs and all the unlocks, I'm wondering if Freedom Planet will satisfy my crave for more platforming goodness. Does it have as much replayability?

File: 1428189098159.jpg (598KB, 2500x3226px) Image search: [Google]

598KB, 2500x3226px

>PC

>>388650118
I mean im not even a pirate and Im buttblasted just cause my uni wifi goes out more than a cheating wife so always online is a fucking pain

>>388655391
>cuck

lmfao coming from the corporate dicksucker

>wahhhhhhh i need laws and DRM because selling games isn't profitable anymore wahhhh

lel get wrecked dipshit, and guess what? This shit rom hack will be cracked within the next few weeks and you will lose sales. Sorry you're trying to operate in a dead industry.

>>388655360
>but steam will delete your review if its negative when you do this
Wait does it leave the positive reviews then? Why the fuck wouldn't it leave the bad review, you fucking refunded it for a reason?!

>>388655319
They aren't the same
but yes, it's better than freedom planet

>>388655486
more replayable levels, more varied gameplay between characters and unique challenge levels for each character

File: 1503398167497.png (653KB, 680x686px) Image search: [Google]

653KB, 680x686px

>>388649657
SONIC WAS NEVER GOOD

>>388650579
>Doesn't happen in 1st world countries
>blackouts during storms can't happen
Doesn't that shit happen a lot in America during hurricane season too?

>>388655407
>Plays 8 minutes
>Thinks he has the right to bitch about the game
You didn't even get past the title screen you inept nigger, do the internet and the world a favor and pull the trigger already, cuck.

>>388654637
ur such a faggot

>>388655319
Not really but it's still good

>>388650579
Definitely does happen in 1st world countries bud have you ever been on a college campus

>defending DRM
nu-/v/ everyone

>>388655557
they changed the system to be more (((fair))) reviews are auto hidden after a month or so because they are (((out of date)))

Is there a worse community than the steam community

File: 1476078593563.jpg (81KB, 406x406px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 406x406px

>>388655651
>America
>1st world

>>388652636
People can also open up the game directly through the exe in the folder somewhere but I guess /v/ kiddies don't even know where their games are installed. You fucknuts. But I give you that: It doesn't work with all games because some really require steam to be running.

>>388655651
America isn't first world.

Do NOT respond to people like 388652272. They are simply trolls looking for yous. Don't give it to them.

>>388650319
yup, but only to an extent.

>>388655772
>>388655794
Yes it is. But once the non-white population reaches its peak numbers it will in fact cease being first world because non-whites like Mexicans, Blacks, and Arabs are genetically predisposed to low IQs and violence. But to be fair lots of formally white yuropoor nations will be majority non-white in the coming decades.

File: 1471338008128.png (456KB, 804x876px) Image search: [Google]

456KB, 804x876px

>expecting anything different from Sega

/v/ never fails

>>388655759
reddit, neogaf, overwatchfags
But yeah the steam commmunity is garbage

>>388655552
Stay mad, pirate cuck. Have fun waiting even longer to play the game :)

>>388655759
No, but piratefags come close.

>>388655486
It's competent, it has 3 different characters with vastly different skills.
Also play in "classic" mode, the story is pure shit.

>>388655794
>>388655772
I didn't say America was a first world country.
I just said that it happens but more frequently there.

>>388655759
it's definitely up there. lots of entitled kids and poorfags that are there for the f2p and bundle codes

File: 1495321362920.jpg (98KB, 520x629px) Image search: [Google]

98KB, 520x629px

What's so bad about Denuvo?

>>388655940
>No, but piratefags come close.
nah the only people who get mad about anything related to piracy are losers who cry that pirates (who don't give a shit) are the source of all their problems

>>388655689
i paid for it, that's what gives me the right to complain about it you mouthbreather

>>388655940
>Have fun waiting even longer to play the game

I will. I'm a very patient man. I don't want impulsively spend money when I don't need to like a nigger. And that's what separates me from you; I don't waste money on video games when I do not need to.

>>388656018
pretty much every game that it has is shit, runs like shit and gets cracked anyway. Denuvo requires you connect online once a day for some fucking "hardware check" and you can't play offline indefinitely with it.

File: IMG_6411.jpg (116KB, 640x866px) Image search: [Google]

116KB, 640x866px

Is he right, /v/?

>>388649570
no mods
no fixes
you wanna play with a 3rd party controller? FUCK YOU
needs to be connected to the internet to even launch
parts of denuvo software remains installed even if you uninstall the game

File: 1502682184593.png (689KB, 1120x2565px) Image search: [Google]

689KB, 1120x2565px

>>388649323
Oh my god is this fucking real

I saw anons the other day rejoicing at confirmed mod support and pretending that denuvo theorists were blown the fuck out

>>388649647
Whitehead doesn't have anything to do with DRM. Sega's adminstration makes that decision.

In fact he got around the NDA by posting that vague tweet about DRM and then not silencing the rumors its started. He actually warned you 3 weeks in advance.

>>388656018
Must be connected to the internet
No modding for a game made by modders

>>388656145
fuck no, hes basically denouncing every opinion because "its not right to tell a professional how to do their job" even if it means the professional actually did something wrong and how to fix it.

>>388656018
Depends on the version
>Online checks if not always online
>Limited installations over a period of time
>It may lower performance
>Inflates development costs
>Kills modding
>Fucks with legitimate consumers while not affecting the pirate at all

>>388656145
You can actually make those request, its your fucking money. If they decline you go with your business until you find someone that complies or already does it how you want
literally why do these people support corporations

>>388656145
Oh shit, the people who said that SimCity 2013 couldn't be made to work offline are back

File: 1456506728252.jpg (22KB, 306x273px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 306x273px

https://twitter.com/RubyEclipse/status/902608083200819200
https://support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-us/requests/new

Instead of complaining on Indonesian image boards, let SEGA know how you feel about DRM.

It's up

>>388656218
>wanting to mod games

I bet you want insert self made scenes into your favorite movies to "enhance the experience" too

>>388656298
didn't people actually get it to work offline?

File: Capture.png (78KB, 385x766px) Image search: [Google]

78KB, 385x766px

>>388649991

>>388656145
The "The customer is always right" mentality always applied more to hospitality sectors so yes.

>>388656369
>modding is bad because I don't like it
>you shouldn't be able to mod skyrim/fallout to make it better for your own enjoyment

>>388656145
>you have no business telling professionals how to do their job
>but I have business pretending to know how the game industry works and dictating exactly what ails it

>>388656376
If you mean EA eventually released a patch to make online optional after making statements that it was impossible to do so, then yes.

http://steamcommunity.com/games/584400/announcements/detail/1448326045461380318

File: refund or not.jpg (73KB, 731x551px) Image search: [Google]

73KB, 731x551px

should I refund? I honestly don't care. I just love me some sanic. sega gen fag from the 90s I am.

they just posted this.

File: IMG_0159.gif (999KB, 500x389px) Image search: [Google]

999KB, 500x389px

>>388649323
>Sonic mania comes out on console
>oh cool, a return to form
>sonic comes out on steam
>WAAAA! WAAAAAA! BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY

Why the fuck do you lot even get given shit. Just go back to pubg shit and 10k hours in TF2 already holy shit what cancer.

>>388656472
just refund it, its a shit game

>>388656369
This game wouldn't exist without modders you know.

>>388655169
Can't really say that if you buy PC games

File: file.png (64KB, 620x323px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 620x323px

DAMAGE CONTROL
DAMAGE CONTROL
DAMAGE CONTROL

>>388656472
D A M A G E C O N T R O L

Is it 60hz locked?

>>388656407
>PCFATS

>>388656538
I know, its unfortunate

>>388656145

To a degree yes, but is not universal, as always it is a case by case bais.

File: 1467839835672.jpg (327KB, 1066x714px) Image search: [Google]

327KB, 1066x714px

Hey guys,I found some platforms that get good selections of games, often before PC. They don't have DRM, you can actually own, trade and loan games to friends and one of them doubles as a portable. They're called consoles, and everyone who has one has been enjoying Mania for the last 2 weeks.

I've never seen this much complaining about Denuvo in the reviews of a store page before.

What makes this game different from Tales of Berseria, God Eater, Just Cause 3, etc that makes people especially upset about the DRM?

File: 1473381328196.jpg (14KB, 480x480px) Image search: [Google]

14KB, 480x480px

>>388653287
>At least it's better than Securom r-right guys?
Yawn

>>388650041
Well it's your fucking fault for choosing a digital only format, you fuckers choose this future. It won't be long till all your games are like this.

>>388651920
>>what is being on an airplane
BING BONG TOO SLOW

>>388656106
games aren't shit if people are wasting their time to crack them.

>>388656472
DAMAGE CONTROL

>>388656509
Yeah like fuck caring about things n sheeeittt

>>388656630
>I've never seen this much complaining about Denuvo in the reviews of a store page before.
its been worse, there have been bigger titles with denuvo where denuvo actually fucks up the game big time.

Batman was worse

Just play the fucking game.( inb4 it dont work lmao)

my game works my controller works.

uhmm? problem piratecunts?

File: 11014917_1649412478622353_5338122031794315412_n.jpg (13KB, 261x165px) Image search: [Google]

13KB, 261x165px

>Like you, we've noticed an error in the Steam store not mentioning the DRM for Sonic Mania.
>error
>after launch

>>388654735
i didn't know it did this, you have my condolences anon.

File: 1503290314746.jpg (148KB, 637x358px) Image search: [Google]

148KB, 637x358px

>>388656526
i've played an hour so far and I disagree, I love me sonic and this is 2d sonic.

>>388656369
>Developers of a game started out as modders
>Honed their skills by modding games
>Became good enough to be picked up by an actual AAA company
>Develop one of the best games a series has had in over a decade
>Company doesn't allow people to mod that game
See the problem here?

>>388656665
the effort to crack is not proportional in any way to its popularity

>>388656724
You wasted 20 dollars on a romhack

>>388656630
nothing, except you care more about this game than those other ones so you're actually noticing the backlash

>>388655461
I'm not upset that I can't pirate a game, I'm upset that I already have to use shitty DRM like Steam and people want to tack on even more garbage DRM like Denuvo as though I had too few things installed to tell me I'm a filthy pirate for losing my internet connection for a few minutes.

>>388656369
Hmm, kind of like how Christian Whitehead modded Sonic 1+2+3K, huh?

File: 1180229261185.jpg (78KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

78KB, 640x480px

>>388649323

>mfw pc cucks are butt blasted again!

File: 1500395227568.jpg (46KB, 566x562px) Image search: [Google]

46KB, 566x562px

>Heavy DRM for literally a mod for a 20+ year old game

The ACTUAL FUCKING STATE of this industry

>>388656472
it's a great game and if none of the current "issues" bother you then don't worry about it

>playing games on your computer
Fucking manchilds

>>388650579
>You do know that devs can just update their games to remove the DRM, right? It's been done before for other DRM infested titles back when SecuROM busted.
However some games will never be updated again and you'll have to go track down cracks for them when the time comes.

>>388655461
b-but everything should be free for me because I'm the center of the universe and entitled to everyone work for nothing simply because my mom plopped me out of her vagina

Like you, we've noticed an error in the Steam store not mentioning the DRM for Sonic Mania.

We're fixing that now.

Sonic Mania is intended to be played offline and we're investigating reports on that.

We're also investigating other issues like controller support, these are all PC specific things that Christian and the team have been working on these last few weeks

Please bare with us while we collate and investigate problems that are being brought to our attention

>game is actually fan made
>re-release this modded shit, with DRM and want 20 dollars for it

>>388656571
Two weeks.
They got two weeks to fix all this crap.
This is inexcusable.

File: apoopstaja.png (45KB, 778x512px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 778x512px

pls gib Mania copy

>>388656145
Does he really think the developers have any say in what DRM protection the game has? He must be fucking delusional

>>388650247
Yes anon, that's what is happening here. Surely that and not that people who bought the game are upset at the fuckbusted Denuvo implementation that keeps people from playing the game whenever they want.

File: 1496554323849.jpg (77KB, 980x675px) Image search: [Google]

77KB, 980x675px

Downloading it nao

File: 120313-billy-corgan(1)(1).jpg (128KB, 608x546px) Image search: [Google]

128KB, 608x546px

*pirates your path*

The Sonic fan/modding PC community kept Classic Sonic alive, and made Mania commercially viable for Sega. Getting always online DRM is a huge slap in the face to the people who have kept this series going all of these years.

File: c.png (30KB, 512x601px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 512x601px

>>388649323
I don't care if you guys shit up the board about this for the next couple weeks, it's not like this place isn't already a cesspool, but if you want someone who matters to hear your complaints then send that shit to Sega's support like Aaron and Taxman are suggesting.

https://support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-us/requests/new

Also proofread this.

>>388656630
>hat makes people especially upset about the DRM?
People care about Sonic, its a 'western' dev that people care about, Mania has been hyped to hell and back with glowing reviews on consoles with a completely not suspicious delay for PC. Take your pick

>>388653338
Well aparently they can. "Future you chose e.t.c"

>>388650849
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+is+denuvo+bad

>>388656870
he didnt mod those games, he made an entirely new engine and accurately recreated them then sold his product to the people who made the original games you dumb brainlet

YOU WAITED TWO WEEKS FOR ALWAYS FUCKING ONLINE DRM

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Really hope SEGA doesn't kill Good Sanic over this

>2 week delay
>Controllers don't work and DRM secretly implemented

Holy fucking shit, that's hilarious.

>>388656472
What the fuck am I reading

Is this some kind of damage control? Controller support? There's x-input and direct input. And you use the vendor and device IDs to map buttons. Wow. You're done. Sonic CD already got a PC release and I've never heard of it having controller support issues. There's literally no reason why this wouldn't have been done in half an hour early in the games development.

File: 1502040559608.png (534KB, 640x448px) Image search: [Google]

534KB, 640x448px

you know what, I hope you pirates crack this shit and force them to remove it as soon as possible

>>388656472
>These are all PC specific things that Christian and the team have been working on these last weeks
So they basically confirmed that the delay was to test DRM problems along with other bugs

>>388657139
>I'm le brave gamurr fight evil companies and ainti consumer practices...
Die.

>>388649570
Lower performance
Reduces life of HDD/SSD since it's always encrypting shit to protect the .exe (kinda like what Starforce did with DVD readers)
Always fucking online
No community mods which is kind of a huge fucking deal for Sonic

>>388655461
But I only pirate games with Denuvo so clearly there's a problem in your argumentation.

>PC mod from 20 fuckin years ago
>release this shit and demand 20 dollars for it
>also has DRM, denuvo of all things

Ok I'm downloading the 20 year old mod now, what the fuck is the difference?

>>388657139
Enough. They got two fucking whole weeks to fix problems.
They won't get a word from me nor a single dollar. Fuck them.

File: 1357150787014.jpg (17KB, 450x370px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 450x370px

>>388655240
>When internet is off (like right now)

>>388657316
>Reduces life of HDD/SSD since it's always encrypting shit to protect the .exe (kinda like what Starforce did with DVD readers)
theres no evidence of this

>>388650579
You're why Europe sucks.

>>388657305
yup

>>388657194
He made that engine in order to extend his early modding projects and overcome limitations of the original engine. There would be no limitations to overcome without mods in the first place, idiot.

>>388656630
I don't know shit about shit but it's definitely the fact that it really looks like they delayed the game for 2 weeks to fix issues the DRM caused.

File: Just rlly makes u think.jpg (18KB, 477x480px) Image search: [Google]

18KB, 477x480px

so is there any reliable download for this yet?

>>388657363
Phoneposters, anon

File: weeb.jpg (9KB, 240x196px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 240x196px

>>388657363

don't really give a shit about not being able to pirate it or play offline, but annoyed that the ULA didn't say anything about denuvo

multi-billion dollar company at it's finest

>>388657313
>complaining when a company fucks you over after being told to complain by said developers is being "a brave le gamurr"
Fuck off

File: 1489673267249.jpg (236KB, 1283x731px) Image search: [Google]

236KB, 1283x731px

>mfw /v/ was right

Might do a cheeky refund

File: 1455934984775.jpg (68KB, 537x600px) Image search: [Google]

68KB, 537x600px

>>388649323
Sonic has always been and always will be garbage created by and for investor's interests.

The only people who cry about denuvo are the same faggots who pirate.

File: 1502830648474.jpg (2KB, 104x125px) Image search: [Google]

2KB, 104x125px

>brag about how the PC version is going to BTFO all others and how consolefags are just beta testers
>get Denuvo'd
Karma's a bitch

>>388657250
>Is this some kind of damage control? Controller support? There's x-input and direct input. And you use the vendor and device IDs to map buttons.
Denuvo blocks things like x360ce so I'm guessing it's referring to something like that. It's totally damage control regardless though.

>>388657462
Phoneposters don't deserve internet. They deserve a smack around the back of the head.

>>388656145
If this man is right then /v/ has no reason to exist,