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Fuck it actually has denuvo. I guess I'll pirate it.

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Fuck it actually has denuvo.

I guess I'll pirate it.
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Oh fuck, what is the difference? I bought it on PC but I can still get a refund
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>Denuvo

Aaaand it's not bought. Time to wait for CPY
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https://support.codefusion.technology/SonicMania_8ahn2e/

Why did they put DRM on a game like this?
Why do console players get the benefit of being able to play the game offline whenever they want indefinitely but PC players are stuck with this?
I recommend spamming the email section on the Denuvo page with complaints
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reminder that denuvo means NO MODS
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>>388637734
But several Denuvo games already have mods.
Denuvo has issues but preventing mods is not one of them.
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>>388637734
It only means you can't mod the .exe
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>sonic mania development team is only in the position they're in now because of their ability to mod the older games
>doesn't add mod support and completely destroys the chance of modding by adding denuvo
fucking cunts
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>piratenogs crying again

lmao, its still in the top sellers despite your crying
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>>388636743
>tfw pubg crates got me this gayme

feels gud. free for me too
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>>388637854
>lmao, its still in the top sellers
it's below rocket league. that's fucking sad.
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>>388637840
Several Denuvo games have mods though.
Nier Automata literally would not be as successful as it was if it weren't for the FAR mod
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>>388637831
Good thing you can mod the rsdk file then because it's just like Sonic CD
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>>388637840
Lets not blame them just yet. It probably was an order from Sega.
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already refunded
thanks for the info
>inb4 buyfags screeching autistically
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>>388637885
Refund it and buy something not anti-consumer.
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http://store.steampowered.com/search/?filter=topsellers
>below rocket league
DEAD ON ARRIVAL
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>>388637840
SEGA also put Denuvo in Bayonetta and Vanquish. I highly doubt this is the dev team's doing. They haven't even ruled out future mod support on Twitter yet.
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>>388637921
>rocket league is literally an esports game
heh.....big surprise...
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I bought it for my gf and am waiting for a link to pirate it myself, should I tell her to refund it?
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Everyone knows you were going to pirate it anyway OP
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>>388638067
yes, buy something that isn't anti-consumer
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>>388638025
>prioritizing your consumer right over entertainment
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>>388638045
No they didn't. Bayonetta and Vanquish are Denuvo free.
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>>388637831
Don't most more advanced mods require modifying or replacing the .exe with a new one?
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>>388637854

This. Piratefags crying is a biweekly thing here now.
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>>388638014

Derp
>>388637854
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>>388638127
oh lol
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>>388638157
yup, that anon is retarded
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Why is Denuvo bad again?
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Eat shit you fucking pirates. Nobody should EVER pirate Taxman and Stealth's work.
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>>388638160
I'm not a piratefag. I hate Denuvo for other reasons. I had this problem a few months ago after going home for the summer (don't have internet at home)
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>>388638025
nah, the game runs fine. eat my ass
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>>388638215
See >>388638220

Kill yourself sega shill.
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THE JEW IS BACK
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>people in this thread are actually defending anti-consumer garbage like denuvo
i want neo-/v/ to leave
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>>388638215
Requiring you to to be always online for authentication every time you start the game.
Also, if the servers ever go down, you are completely locked out of the game.
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Torrent where?
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>>388638215
You know very well people are only crying because it tries to prevent piracy
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>>388638302
It's paid corporate shills.
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>>388638215

because pirates have to wait before they can pirate it
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>pirates falseflagging that they're going to refund the game since it has Denuvo even though they haven't bought it
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>>388638319
It doesn't authenticate EVERY time you start the game. You are able to play Denuvo games offline to some degree. Its just that the games do do online authentication every now and then
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>>388638363
Fuck off shill
>>388638220
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>>388638319
>>388638291

That's fucking stupid.

Guess I'll wait for a crack then.
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>>388638363
>Every single Denuvo game ever released runs like shit
>When Denuvo is removed the games run better
Gee, I wonder why people would be pissed about Denuvo.
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>>388638387
Want me to post my refund, shill?
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glad I pirated it on console with no denuvo
when will companies learn you cannot trust us
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>>388638487

>Every single Denuvo game ever released runs like shit

lol
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>>388638487
That's not entirely true. Tales of Berseria, God Eater Resurrection, God Eater 2: Rage Burst, and DOOM run well
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>>388638568
(You)
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No game for pirate fags, hahahahaha
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>>388638363
Almost all games get cracked though, it's just a waiting game. Chaos Theory took over a year, but it was cracked.
>>388638390
I thought it was every time. Still, That sucks for people with unreliable or metered connections or someone who wants to play the game when they are offline.
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>>388638593
>DOOM
Fuck off, shill. They removed denuvo last year because of the performance issues it was causing.
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>game gets delayed from may to august
>game get delayed AGAIN for 2 weeks just to add denuvo
>cant even launch the game

christ.
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>>388638487
mgs5
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>>388636743
I would have been indifferent to Denuvo if it had been in there from the beginning as it's basically toothless these days, but delaying for 2 weeks to add pointless DRM is really shitty and I'll be pirating instead.
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>>388638698
I thought they removed it for other reasons, such as the game getting cracked. I played the DOOM beta and it ran silky smooth on my 970 at max settings.

Stop calling me a shill. I'm the one who posted this >>388638220
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25 bucks for a sonic game? LMAO
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I think I'm going to spend the money I would have spent on this on another game. How is northguard? I've been eyeing it for a while.
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>>388638698
It was removed cuz the game was cracked you moron
DOOM runs great kys
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Wow Sega. Just Wow. This is such a disappointment. After seeing the amazing gameplay, graphics and music over the past few weeks, I couldn't have been more excited for Sonic Mania!

Opening up the game was a totally different story though. First I was greeted by DENUVO DRM via a firewall trigger. Then once I got into the game, toggling full screen would cause the game to crash. Great. There are also other users commenting on issues with DirectInput and other graphical glitches. Did I mention the game is locked at 60fps too?

Considering this was delayed by two weeks for the PC release, I was hoping the launch would be bug free. But the bugs and DENUVO have left a bad taste in my mouth.
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>$25 for a game that looks like it was released 20 years ago
um no thanks
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>>388638703
I think this is caused by Visual studio 2015 not be installed.
It would have been nice if they bundled it with the game when you installed it though.
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>>388638815
>20 bucks for a new game
>a lot
How's high school?
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>>388638157
>>388638212
You can even still mod the exe in Denuvo games, you just have to do it on-the-fly via a dll at run time.
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>>388637734
Tell that to /4ccg/.
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Is this the first SEGA game to use Denuvo?
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IF YOU FUCKS ARE GOING TO TRY TO GET ME TO NOT BUY IT THEN YOU BETTER POST A TORRENT OR SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVE

OTHERWISE YOU CAN FUCK RIGHT OFF
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I'm gonna fucking kill them if Forces has denuvo. Generations has GOAT mods and it's the only reason I go back to it
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>>388638968
I want you to not buy it because it uses DRM which is harmful to consumers.

I don't want you to pirate it.
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>>388638703
the game literally tries to install this shit for you before it starts up the first time. don't cancel out of it you retard
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>>388638875

I can afford it but 25 bucks for a sonic game lmaoooooooo
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>>388638487
I thought this was piratefag propaganda but when I installed DOOM on my brother's PC, obviously cracked, I noticed that it would boot up in considerable less time than on my PC, and the kick is that he has a worse PC than mine.
Same goes for Total War Warhammer, I switched to the pirated version as soon as both got cracked because they run so much better and I don't have to launch the adware/spyware also known as Steam.
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>>388638975
Forces will still have mods even if it has Denuvo. Please don't spread misinformation, as it makes it harder to argue against Denuvo to people
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>Expecting respect whatsoever from a company when you're a thief

You're just giving them more reasons to delay your port, whiny race
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>>388637840
He hates it, why do you think that tweet was for: https://twitter.com/CFWhitehead/status/896047063024025602
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Nice job Sega. You just shot yourselves in the foot by turning away customers who don't want anything to do with denuvo, and you have absolutely nothing to show for it. DRM doesn't work. If anything, it has the opposite effect to what it's supposed to accomplish.
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>>388636743
Already fucking requested a refund. My controller won't work for it and now fucking this. As Barry from Game Grumps once said: "Don't do Sonic, kids"
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>>388638954
Bayonetta has Denuvo
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>>388638703
works on my pc
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>$20 for a pixel game
>paying the autism tax to play something that should cost 5 bux
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>>388639069
>adware/spyware also known as Steam
????
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>>388639047
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>>388639047
>nigger only has $12k

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>388639047
>a fucking leaf
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>>388638870
I have it installed unless theres another vision i need.
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>>388639159
>play pubg
>get crates
>sell crates on market
>get free sanic

feels gud. I know this will trigger someone, somehow.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13815906
http://www.strawpoll.me/13815906
http://www.strawpoll.me/13815906
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13815906
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>>388639047
No you can't, 12k CDN is less than 25 USD
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>>388639110
He's talking about this:

https://www.wired.com/story/malware-dna-hack/
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>>388639168
>>388639180
>>388639182

jealous much
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>>388636743
If you actually bought this game for $20 you're a dumbass.
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devs are pretty much forced to do DRM to appease shareholders, everyone else know it's just bad publicity at this point. pirates are going to pirate no matter what you do
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I love taxman's twitter...i-its not my fault, sega made me do it, i just accepted the money and fucked the people like me who actually mod games or try to do something outside of sega's grubby hands.
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>>388639180
No need to laugh about that anon. You need to grow up.
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>>388639095
But I buy my games.
>>388639126
No it does not
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bayonetta+denuvo
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>>388639031
It didnt have a version of visual studio come with it. Dont call people retards when its not their fault
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>>388639302
He wasn't, that was just to cover his ass in case sega got angry about it.
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>>388639250
Refund it and use the money on something better like CS:GO skins.
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>>388639303
Not at all. But you knew you were getting yous. last one from me, leaf loser.
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>>388637608
>Why did they put DRM on a game like this?
Because everyone threatened, even on the official streams, that they were going to pirate it.
>Why do console players get the benefit of being able to play the game offline whenever they want indefinitely but PC players are stuck with this?
See above.

You've only got piratefags to blame.
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>>388639250
Did the exact thing, but I got a second free PUBG to a friend from crates.
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>>388639165
Scans your softwares without asking, that's a spyware.
When you open it it forces you to watch ads for shit you don't want, that's adware.
And let's not mention how you can't keep a game not updated anymore so if there's a huge 30GB update like they did for DOOM you're fucked even if you only wanted to play some single player.
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>>388638025
>implying being pro consumer means you won't be pirated
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>>388639381
nah I don't play that trash anymore. ill keep sonic
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>>388639374
weird because i literally just installed it and it reinstalled it for me.

how about you not be a fucking retard
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>>388639437
You are everything wrong with gaming, please tear your fingernails out.
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>>388639047
>The state of (you) right now
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>>388639427
I may do this for a friend.
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>>388637608
Because lizuka is faggot
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>>388639476
you're just going to have to deal
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>>388639385

I'm rich in (you)s
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>>388638503
Not like you can.
Why do american companies not allow any refunds of their products
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Lets take a minute to appreciate this hot mess and why it's bad. Just a heads up, it's the sum of the parts rather than one single issue.

>Delay game to August because your team is too shitty to finish the game in the proper time.
>Game gets leaked on the Switch.
>Day after the leak (and 4 days before launch) the game gets delayed for PC only.
>The excuse being that they are "optimizing" the game so Steam reviewers don't pummel the game's score since they will notice and whine about the issues present (those issues are on the console version as well).
>Two weeks pass by.
>PC version releases.
>It has Denuvo.
>Also, it wasn't optimized at all since people are reporting issues left and right about controller issues, resolution problems, and the game not launching (some antivirus are even blocking the thing for less knowledgeable users).

So it turns out the game was not only delayed to block piratefags, but also they lied (because it wasn't obvious enough the first time) when they said they were optimizing the thing since it's still running like shit. So now the Steam review crowd will judge the game even harsher because of it, nullifying the whole point of the delay.
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>>388639437
what a dickhead
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God, this game is so good with a Saturn controller.
I pity those who played it with a Dualshock or whatever.
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>>388639380
>the tweet and the article are a day apart

Don't be retarded, anon.
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>>388639501
God speed to you SonicAnon
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>>388639476
nah, I couldn't care less what you think. lol thanks for the you though.
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>>388636743
this game is so lit meine gute
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>>388639485
You're poor too. lol!
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I hate these stairs so much STOP SQUISHING ME
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>>388639674
>he bought it
Kys
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the audio glitches are still in

taxman betrayed us
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>Sonic Mania not even in the top 25 on Steam
TAXMAN THE HACK KEKED HIMSELF. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Sonic Forces is gonna sell double mania now and the idiot will hang himself
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>>388639674
This your first sonic game bud?
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>>388636743
I used to pirate... then I grew up and got a job to which I could spend on frivolous things while still providing. I remember those torrentz days, but as long as I know I can afford my life along with my lifestyle, then spending some on games and things I like is nothing. Wageslaving isn't the best but being independent and not relying on others is great. to each their own of course.
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>>388639574
He posted his tweet mere minutes after the PC delay announcement, don't be retarded anon.
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>>388639270
How can I refund a game I never bought? I'm not going to refund it or buy it. I'm just going to find other games to play.

Danganronpa V3 and Blue Reflection come out next month. SEGA's loss if they don't want to treat consumers well.
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>>388639674
>more than once
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PC m-master race! ;-;
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I BET that it got delayed because of Denuvo
refunded
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lol look at all these faggots complainin about pirating unlike you im gonna buy the game with mommy money
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these mad piratefag posts make me moist
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>>388639814
>willingly supporting denuvo
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>>388639754
It's in the 30s right now and will only go up.

lol what about this game. i bet it triggers the fuck out of you
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>>388639754
Fucking based. We never liked this shitty romhack anyway.

This will go down as one of the greatest blunders in gaming history.

>>388639784
Whatever, just enjoy the fireworks of mass boycott as Mania ends up as the Sonic 06 of 2D Sonic.
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>>388638014
you have literally no right to complain that a game doesnt reach your platform
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>>388639768
ur doing gud work anon. I see improvements.
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>>388639432
>Scans your softwares without asking
I have never seen or heard this happen. You can allow Steam to probe your hardware for surveys but that's it.
>When you open it it forces you to watch ads for shit you don't want, that's adware.
Not true, see pic related.
>And let's not mention how you can't keep a game not updated anymore so if there's a huge 30GB update like they did for DOOM you're fucked even if you only wanted to play some single player.
I'll give you this one, which is bullshit.
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>>388639836
>mad piratefags
I think you mean mad would-be customers. Why would pirates be mad when Denuvo get's cracked real quick these days.
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Whoops, I'm retarded. Here's the pic.
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Honestly more pissed that they fucked up controller configuration. Risky's DLC better come through for me today.
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>Mfw this was supposed to be a nice day but now I'm sitting here at an hour of playtime and can't go any farther because I might have to refund the game
>On top of a bunch of my plans in real life that were gonna make this a nice day going to shit
Fuck my shit up
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>Denuvo fucks up the legal buyer
>pirates will get it cracked anyways in play it offline with better performance
>somehow /v/ paints this as a loss for the piratefag and a win for the legalfag
this board is unrecoverable
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>>388639115
Implying you wern't going to pirate it anyway you PC SCUMBAG
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>>388639452
>my situation is the same as everybody else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZRZBP4uTyA&feature=youtu.be

fuck off retard.
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>>388639915
>I have never seen or heard this happen. You can allow Steam to probe your hardware for surveys but that's it.
Go to the software tab in Steam, it sees all the installed stuff even if you never did a survey.
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>>388640065
Kill yourself shill. Enjoy 2D Sonic 06.
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>>388640056
you're a jerkoff for giving a fuck about this and notenjoying the game.

cmon dude
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>>388640065
saved. lol
>>388640121
faggot
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THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2w2v_kgzWo
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>>388640121
Doesn't matter, I have 9 extra lives left if I kill myself.
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>>388639754
>literally out for an hour
>still top 30
pretty good for a classic sonic game
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>>388640125
No YOURE a jerkoff for giving money to people who treat their consumers like this. Kill yourself.

Creating one of the best 2D platformers of at least the gen but maybe all time DOESN'T give you a license to shit on your consumers and still make money.
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>the game itself is shit because dev put denuvo on the pc port

what?
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Should I buy it just to write a bad review and refund?
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>>388640065
that's cute post more bouncing boxes
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>Game comes out for consoles
>People begin to act like they were never excited for it and it was shit all along
>Things die down and people enjoy themselves with it
>Games comes out for PC
>People once again say it was always shit and you'd have to be a retard to get it

How long before this dies down again?
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Wait, SEGA really added Denuvo to this shit?
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>>388640125
>yes goy, enjoy it even though it's literally 2D Sonic 06
Can't wait for Taxhack to hang himself lmfao

>>388640183
>below fucking rocket league
LMFAOOOOOOOO
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>>388640215
Its not shit, it just hurts consumers which is shitty.
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>>388640204
i got the game with pubg crates, eat my ass. twice
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>>388640170
I'll make more webms soon.
I should've saved some of the other moments that was fun and silly.
>>388640224
Will do.
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>>388636743
STOP LYING YOU FUCKING RETARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>388640221
That's what I'm doing. I already bought the fucking thing, Sega apparently doesn't want any more of my money
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>>388640256
https://support.codefusion.technology/SonicMania_8ahn2e/
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>>388640183
Pyre flopped and it made it into the top ten before hour 1.

Haxmanfags on suicide watch.
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>>388640215
It's asshurt nu-/v/ shitposters mad they can't get a game for free.
pic related is them.
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>>388636743
here comes the false flagging threads like nier look out for classic hits such as
>refunding as we speak
>i-i-i was gonna pirate it first then buy it
>MUH MODS
>Denuvo is bullshit because ( )
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>>388640026
THAT'S whats supposed to come out today too. thanks for reminding me
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>>388640257
>lmfao
me too senpai. it will be so funny! first I'l lenjoy some sanic 2017
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>>388640215
>this level of misinterpretation
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>>388640297
>support.codefusion.technology
What the fuck
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>>388640281
That's 44 more exclamation points than what was necessary.
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>>388640303
>yfw sonic rehashia 2 NEVER EVER
Haxman suicide on stream when?
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>>388639908
>I do my best
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>>388636743
>Denuvo
oh no, how will i live with denuvo in my vidya.
dont be a such a faggot, you just wanted an excuse to pirate.
no need to justify how much of a poorfag you are.
now wait for the scraps like a good boy and wait for the torrent.
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Sonic Mania? I think you mean Sonic The Hedgehog (2017).

Because Sega sees them both as failures.
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>>388640332
Im mad because:
>I paid for the game and i didnt played like everyone else.
>any modding possibility is dead now.

Fuck you and every antipiratefag, we legit users got wronged too!
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>>388640349

here is a (((You)))
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>>388640215
pcfags are cancer. what a surprise
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>>388640449
OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH SHET
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>>388640429
Bruh >>388638220
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What the fuck is the issue with Denuvo? Genuinely wondering.

t. not a poorfag
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I can actually finish the game I started yesterday by the time it gets cracked.
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I encourage everyone to pirate this. Sega needs to see that porting Yakuza and any other games to PC is pointless. Please pirate!
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>>388640449
Just when we thought maniacucks couldn't be any more BTFO
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Where the fuck does Mark live
this is ALL his fault
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>>388640110
whatever you say, retard
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>>388640516
yea as if you'll ever be offline faggot
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I care less about Denuvo and more about delaying it for two weeks for """"""""""""""""optimisation"""""""""""""" which is some real 'fuck you' tier shit.
To think I got fooled into thinking Sega had actually sorted their shit out.
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>>388640531
The game occasionally needs to authenticate that you own the game online. This means that if you're offline for an extended period of time or maybe you go offline after an update, you might lose access to the game.
>>388640595
I'm not going to pirate it. I'm just not going to buy it. Instead I'll be buying Danganronpa V3 and Blue Reflection in the near future.
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>Devs put no DRM in the game
>"haha dumbasses thanks for the free game it's like they want me to steal it"
>Devs put DRM in the game
>"wow fucking anti-consumer assholes I'm just gonna wait for the crack not supporting this shit"
People just don't wanna pay for shit
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>>388640259
I mean, maybe I just don't keep track of drm stuff since I don't really pirate vidya anymore, but I've never played a game and thought 'wow this is performing really badly' then investigated it to see some DRM is to blame.

>>388640332
Doesn't Denuvo just mean it takes a few more months for cracks to come out?

>>388640375
I mean,
>>388639754
>>388639270
>>388639883
>>388640121
and probably more. All I saw on here about mania was that it was the best sonic game to come out in a decade or more, but now suddenly there's always been these bugs and oh what terrible devs and yadda yadda.
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>>388640637
I don't have internet access at home, as my family is poor and I live with my parents.
I'm in college most of the year, so I have internet access most of the time, but during summer months I'm in the dark.
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>>388640449
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>>388640531
>kills modding
>kills performance
>kicks you out of the game if your internet goes down
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>>388640352
Really excited for it. I just hope it isn't too expensive. If the base game is $20 then I'll be fine with it being $10. It looks like it'll be even better than Shantae's gameplay.
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You can already download the game from here, crack is in the works though. https://skidrowgamesreloaded.com/sonic-mania-full-unlocked/
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>>388640595
You are goddamn right I am gonna pirate it, not gonna give those jews my money
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>>388640684
Its not the performance that's the issue. Its a lie that Denuvo causes performance problems.

The problem with Denuvo purely lies with its need to authenticate online every now and then.
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>>388640332
>It's asshurt nu-/v/ shitposters
You forgot part where they also defend drm, oh wait its reddit, not nu-/v/
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>Was going to pirate it today
>Has Denuvo
>Oh well, I can wait a few weeks for a crack. It's just a fucking 2D Sonic game
>Play something else

Wow. What a huge issue this is!

Shit flinging retards, all of you.
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>>388640703
>kills your solid state drive
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>>388640449
le ebin BTFO famalamadingdong
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>>388639725
kek
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>>388640449
>the state of manianiggers
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POST A FUCKING LINK COME ON
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>>388640729
Thank you, I'm glad you'll show Sega you don't want any more games.
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>>388640648
of course not. they can claim all their commie/F da gobment logic all they want, but most of them just are cheap nogs who have no jobs...
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>>388640751
what the fuck is reddit
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God, I love when consolefags are larping as pcfags.
It's so funny and so obvious.
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Denuvo gets cracked in like five seconds after release; piratefags aren't complaining here. The only ones complaining are PC customers like myself who actually bought the fucking game expecting SEGA to give us something that isn't an anti-consumer FUCK YOU


No workshop and DRM in full swing. Why did I expect anything better?
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>>388640332
>le crying wojack
Underage retard detected
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>>388640449
I don't get it
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>>388640703
Wrong
Wrong
Right
>>388640761
Wrong

IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT DENUVO ACTUALLY SAY TRUTHFUL THINGS
OTHERWISE PEOPLE WILL CALL YOU OUT ON IT AND THINK DENUVO ISN'T ACTUALLY BAD
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https://twitter.com/CFWhitehead/status/902573147592900608

Reminder that Sega are the bigger jews here and you should blame them
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>>388640514
>fanboys are cancer
fitfy
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>tfw enjoyed the game 2 weeks ago and get to see pcbros flip out because they can't steal it
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>>388640752
It'll be cracked in the next 24 hours. Guarantee someone like CPY or Baldman will have it done quickly.
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>all of this asspain from the delay and the drm could have been avoided if they just didn't add denuvo
goddamn it this was such a bad call
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>>388640449
Where's the joke? Seriously, I don't get it.
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>>388640648
>prepurchase game I'm looking forward to
>gets delayed on PC for no apparent reason
>see tons of spoilers because I dared to go on the internet
>devs can't even be bothered to tell us it has Denuvo
>implying I want to give these ex-SecuROM scumbags money
Not going to pirate it either, as they just bypass Denuvo instead of removing it.
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>>388640872
>haxman deflecting blame
YOUR GAME FUCKING FLOPPED HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
wah wah denuvo, it will probably be removed a few months after launch
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>>388636743
>Denuvo
Well, it's pirate then, I love Sega so much I don't want them to think that they are wrong about thinking that every consumer is a thief, that would be bad manners. I invite everyone to do the same to support Sega's way of thinking.
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>>388640987
The joke is the two anons samefagging ITT.
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>>388638215
Because Reddit told me it was
>>
the amount of people who have computers but not internet shouldn't be spending their money on video games in the first place.

fuck off poorfags
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>>388640732
Huh. I mean that's not ideal but if they're buying it on Steam, of all places, why would they be all that concerned about needing to be online every once in a while. You're on a computer's connected to the internet almsot the entire time it's on. Steam already needs to go online every once in a while. Is it just an 'on principle' thing?

>>388640856
Wasn't the workshop thing just people getting overhyped at reading a carbon-stamped EULA and the dev told them that it was not the case the same day?
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>>388640872
>Guy got up at 9 am and got on twitter to defend his game against the choice of DRM

hilarious
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>>388640835
Your favourite site, go back to it
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>>388640703
>>kills modding
Not advertised as being a thing
>>kills performance
do you have a shitty pc?
>>kicks you out of the game if your internet goes down
when are you ever not online?
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>>388640449
Delet this...NOW
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>>388636743
You were going to pirate anyway
>>
>retards literally crying and shitposting, pretending Mania isn't universally acclaimed and the best rated Sonic game in 15 years because they can't pirate it day 1
pcfags are cancer
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>pc version is out with bug fixs and extra option
>suddenly, tons of consolefags claiming that the game was never good anyway
like a clockwork.
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>>388640648
It's almost like they never intended to buy in the first place.
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>Comes out on PC
>Shitposting reaches an all-time low for the game
Why am I not surprised
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>>388641017
I hope it's like this, doom did the right thing.
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>only bought Mania on steam to support Whitehead and pals
>already played to the point of burnout on PS4
>suddenly denuvo

At least I just cleared up 20 bucks I guess. Still GOTY but fuck Sega for that bullshit.
>>
Do we know what denuvo version it uses?

If it's the same as Agents of Mayhem (since it was released less than 2 weeks ago) we'll have a crack in a day or two tops.
>>
It was never advertised as having mod support
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>>388641146
>>suddenly, tons of PCfags claiming that the game was never good anyway because of DRM
ftfy
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>>388641191
>if someone criticizes Classic Sonic 06 hten it's SHITPOSTING WAAAAAA
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>>388641139
>pretending that sony and nintendo fanboys are not cancer
How hypocritical of you, but that would be stupid to expect subhuman to be honest person
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>>388641152

just young kids that cant afford regular games yet, i was in the same boat, at least in my day everything was crackable, except c&c, could never find a crack for that.
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I didn't know Devo was such an issue.
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>>388640939
This is why you guys pay for online, nothing's a problem unless it affects you and then when it does it's "totally fine" or "less than a cup of coffee a week".
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>Shoots down workshop support.
>Delays game by 2 weeks to add in Denuvo
Fucking swell.
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>>388640872
>Fat autists bullying Taxman for something he didn't do
These idiots should seriously be chemically castrated, and I mean that genuinely.
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>>388641146
>extra option
?
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>>388641139
Reception=/Sales
This game cost SEGA next to nothing to make and it STILL bombed.
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>>388639674
>casual_filter.jpg
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>>388641139
>fantards are cancer
Color me suprised and dont pretend that nintendotards and sony niggers act better, faggot.
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>>388640449
>Mania destroyed the Classic Sonic.
Now all we need is Forces to kill the Modern Sonic.
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>>388641339
t. Haxman

Enjoy hanging yourself after your shit gameflops LMAOOOOOOO

>>388641352
Fucking this. One of the greatest blunders of the decade.
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>>388641352
Where's the proof?
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>>388637361
We might have to wait a while. There's already another uncracked Denuvo game with the same version as Sonic Mania. Who knows which one they will decide to crack first.
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>noone will buy it bc denuvo
>noone will buy it on ps4/xbox because baby cartoon game
>yfw sonic mania 2 is switch exclusive
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>>388636743

What the fuck? Why would they put Denuvo on a tiny 2D game like this? Fuck.

Well, dodged a fucking bullet there. I'm not even gonna pirate it now, I'll just completely ignore Sanic.
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>>388641058
Yeah the workshop thing was from the EULA bullshit but come the fuck on sonic games are nothing without the mods. DRM in a sonic game can only ever be a bad thing. Nobody wants that fucking DRM shit when it doesn't exist on consoles nor is it a threat to actual pirates.

The fact that /v/ is spending more time shitposting about "LE PC FAGS CANT PIRATE DAY ONE ECKSDEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" only shows how little they actually care about the video games.
>>
Why is Denuvo bad?
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>>388641438
>Where's the proof?
FUCKING LAWBREAKERS even fucking broke the top 10 of Steam day 1

Sonic Mania is literally doing worst than the new posterchild for failed games.
>>
Sonic the Hedgehog: 7/10
Sonic the Hedgehog 2: 8/10
Sonic the Hedgehog CD: 8/10
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles: 9/10
Sonic Advance: 7/10
Sonic Advance 2: 6/10
Sonic Advance 4: 6/10
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode I: 5/10
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode II: 6/10
Sonic Mania: 9/10
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>>388641478
>shitty game for babies is exclusive to shitty console for babies
I don't see the problem here
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SERVES YOU FUCKING RIGHT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4
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>>388641564
>literally
You need to go back
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>>388641352
Where is the evidence it bombed?
You just make me wonder who is behind this post.
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>>388641528
>What the fuck? Why would they put Denuvo on a tiny 2D game like this?
Because everyone claimed they were going to pirate it, even on official streams.
>>
What is this was an intentional act of sabotage to make Sonic Forces look better when it doesn't have Denuvo?
>>
>>388636743
Such a damn shame, especially because they did such a great job on Bayonetta and Vanquish. What caused the turnaround? My money's on Sega of Japan forcing something.

Oh well, I knew the delay was there for a reason. Not gonna buy this even on sale.
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>>388636743
What sort of Denuvo does Sonic Mania has?
Captcha: Joel Services. The memes are real...
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>>388641582
>i-its for babies! i didnt want to play it anyway!!!!
piratefags everyone
>>
>>388641562
Because it has a strangely high success rate of stopping /v/ from pirating. They like to greentext anybody that says it's uncrackable, and they're right, it isn't, but if you look at the facts, maybe only 30% of all Denuvo games have been cracked to a playable state.
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>>388641594
>bringing adventurefags
You're even more pathetic t b h
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There's some mad samefagging going on in this thread.

I truly doubt most people excited for mania would not purchase because of Denuvo. Unless the master race is more petty than I expected.
>>
>>388641589
Piratefags are so assblasted right now, it's hilarious. Remember /whogonnapirateit/?
>>
>>388641564
sonic mania also came out on consoles retard, aka where majority of game sales happen
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>>388636743
>Denuvo
Didn't care for Automata, don't care for Mania.
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>>388637608
>Why did they put DRM on a game like this?
Why do you think? The day before the two-week delay occurred was the day some random asshole got his hands on a Switch Collector's Edition and kept spamming his code at the Nintendo eShop until it accepted and let him play the game several days early. The flood gates were opened, the Sonic youtube channel posted the official opening within hours to compensate, and the following day the game was delayed for two weeks on PC for "optimization problems".

It's textbook anti-piracy/anti-streetdate breaking kneejerk reactions.
>>
>>388641754
>it's samefagging because MUH BASED GOD KEKMAN IS GETTING SHITTED UPON WAAAAAAA
get bent manianigger
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>>388636743
>Denuvo

lel. Already bought for PS4 so I guess this confirms I'm definitely pirating the PC version.
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>>388641564
Sonic Mania has more players right now than Lawbreakers ever had, and it was cheaper to produce. Kys retard.
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>>388641773
s-shut up
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>>388641146
>Game still runs like shit despite being delayed for """""""""""""""""""""""""optimization"""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>Now with that drm all Steam users must love because they can't stop defending it.

But we have a dedicated Super Sonic button I guess.
>>
>>388637608
because pc players refuse to pay for single player games

this is your reward for years of piracy
>>
I thought only corporate shills were on /pol/ and /b/
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>>388641964
>Steam stats
>Reliable
LOL

Maniacucks are desperate because whatever stodgy old businessman that decided 2D Sonic wasn't profitable anymore back in the day was 110% right.
>>
>>388641993
what's your build? if this game of all runs bad then it's your own darn fault
>>
>>388638703
Run updates
I had this problem with office 2016 and i fixed with updates
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>>388641907
So because some fucker was able to play the Switch version, the PC version had to suffer because of it?
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>>388637768
name 1
>>
The pirates are still going to get theirs just saying
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>>388641339
"B-but Sega said I had to put 12 copies of Green Hill Zone in the game!" Dude needs to get some fucking balls and start standing up to Sega.
>>
>>388641754
For me, it's not because of Denuvo, although I don't like it. It's because they delayed it for 2 weeks to add the drm when it will no doubt be cracked with another week. If they do a GoG release or patch out Denuvo at a later date I'll give them my money.
>>
>Game has DRM
WTF I'm not buying this until they respect me as a consumer!
>Game has no DRM
Haha what idiots I don't even have to buy it now!
>>
>>388642080
Yeah but many people was cocky and said:"I'm gonna pirate it anyway"
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>>388642054
>The stat are fake!!
Lmao how ass blasted are you.
>>
>>388642039
No shilling, just reality that only piratefags have themselves to blame.
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>>388642080
Sega probably freaked the fuck out. The announcement of the two-week delay essentially came out of nowhere, late in the day previous a sudden new stream announcement happened when usually we were given days in advance to know.
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>>388641246
>Still GOTY
Maybe if this was 2015. Nintendo has BOTW ahead of Mania and Mario Odyssey will likely continue the trend of Sonic getting BTFO by Mario.
>>
>>388639553
But you can, shill.
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>Denuvo
>Glorfified Romhack
>costs money
>2D

Not even worth a pirate. I've lost all respect for Sonic Team.
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>>388642054
Spittin' truth.

Too bad manianiggers autistically screech at anything that resembles truth. Serves them right for paying 20 (!!!!!!!!) dollars for a Sonic CD romhack lmfao.

>>388642150
Taxman is the toppest cuck ever. Shitting out a literal romhack lmfao.
>>
This game was shit to begin with, consolecucks lied again. I never want to see a Jewnic Mania thread on this board again
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>You wouldn't skip a GOOD GAME because it has DENUVO would you?
What kind of cancerous nu/v/ rhetoric is this?

THE ANSWER IS FUCKING YES.
ANY SELF RESPECTING PERSON WOULD JUST WAIT TO PLAY A GAME WITH DENUVO ON IT.
>>
https://twitter.com/CFWhitehead/status/896047063024025602
>>
>>388640693

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWdD206eSv0
>>
>>388642256
>>388642236
These anons know what's up. None of us were ever hyped for this piece of shit to begin with.

Nuking of all Rehashia threads when?
>>
>mustards getting fucked over again
Remind me why I should care about PC "gaming?"
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>Sega intentionally puts in Denuvo for Sonic Mania
>Doesn't put it in for Sonic Forces
How likely is this situation?
>>
>>388642374
Did I give you permission to post in this thread?
>>
Why the fuck do I have to be connected to the internet to play a 2D sprite game?
>>
>>388642306
>What kind of cancerous nu/v/ rhetoric is this?
The term is Neo-/v/ and these are the same people who bought horse armor and defended Sony.
>>
What's the purpose of PC gaming again?
>>
>>388638975
Forces has Denuvo, anon. It was confirmed even before Mania.
>>
Well thread is dead. Going to play videogames.
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>>388642402
Depends on if the game gets leaked ahead of schedule.
It'll probably happen anyway though.
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>>388642357
Not only is it unmoddable, it also means its even worse trash than before, holy hell.

My real concern is that Sonic Forces will get denuvo, and be unmoddable.
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>>388642432
No. Neo /v/ and nu/v/ are too different animals.

Neo/v/ is cancer. Nu/v/ is 2015 and beyond advanced cancer
>>
What's this shit about having to be connected to the internet?
>>
>>388641993
>>Game still runs like shit despite being delayed for """""""""""""""""""""""""optimization"""""""""""""""""""""""""""
literally playing it on a thinkpad.
I can't wait to play it on a GPD WIN.
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>>388642402
Considering that there will likely be tons of posts and comments about how they'll pirate Forces? Just like they did Mania?

Highly
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>>388642070
I'm reading the forums. I didn't even boot the game yet. It could work flawlessly on my machine but that doesn't change that they shouldn't be getting blown up for using that optimization excuse.

Hell the store page doesn't even tell you the game has Denuvo. Most games at least are upfront about it.
>>
>>388642514
They're the same thing dude.
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>>388642470
Not as dead as Sonic Mania 2
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>>388642306
>wait 2 (two) weeks for exclusive denuvo upgrade
>SELF RESPECTING PERSON
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Why are there so many Mania shills here? Maybe if Mania was an EXCELLENT game then this wouldn't be such a big deal, but since it's a "good" game that is perceived to be excellent because it plays off of nostalgia it's reasonable why people would be pissed about this. Especially since DRM just fucks over legal buyers.
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Reminder that Denuvo literally only benefits pirates
Yeah sure I could BUY that game but I could also just fucking download it and be able to play it offline with less performance issues
FUCK this is a difficult decision
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Seriously why are half the fucking posts about /v/ crying that pc customers are only mad because they can't pirate it day 1. Why can't anyone on this fucking board use their brains? /v/ continues to be the worst board on 4chan tied with /b/ because none of you cavemen even remotely give a shit about SEGA's business practices as an out of touch loony bin.

I can't fucking believe how dedicated almost each and every one of you are to shitposting non-fucking-stop about piratefag tears or something or other. It makes my head hurt even coming here.
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Let's get Christian Cuckhead fired from his cushy Sega job
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>/a/ promotes downloading anime to get the best quality
>/mu/ has sharethreads
>/v/ cries about pirates
Why is /v/ so cucked? It has to be paid shills.
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>>388642624
/v/ loves classic Sonic.
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>>388642427
>>388642541
Because piratefags
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>>388642497
Just glad so many people are waking up to the shittiness of Rehashia. One of the worst games this decade holy fuck.

>>388642256
>>388642236
AND THERES STILL NO FUCKING DEBATING THESE POSTS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>388642614
I didn't give them money for ANY version of the game once I realized PC might get Denuvo

Hows it feel to eat shit and not vote with your wallet?
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>>388642427
Because you're playing on PC aka the retard's platform of choice.
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>>388642054
>stats are fake
>except the top sales that I'm using as evidence for the game flopping, those stats are right.
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>>388642646
He should have just stayed on making ports.
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>>388642589
>none are talking about optimization
wew lad
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>>388642696
>Hows it feel to eat shit and not vote with your wallet?
You tell me, you're the one that waited on PC.
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>>388642706
>3rd party website has fake stats
>Steams official store has real ones
Make complete sense. Keep stretching maniatard
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This is pretty sad, really goes against the community driven spirit this game represented. Hopefully I'm wrong and some decent modding can still come out of this.
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>wait for PC release just to pirate it
>has denuvo, so have to wait another fucking week

I could have just bought it
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>>388642646
He tweeted about it, it was Sega's doing. He doesn't like it.
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>>388642256
>>388642236
The music is good, though.
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>>388638215
digital handcuffs
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>>388642652
>Anime and music severely dipped in quality in recent years due to the prevalence of piracy
Wow I'm stumped
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>>388642236
>sonic team
you blew what little cover you had retard
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>>388642624
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_mentality
Literally the only reason people like Shitia. Most independent people shat all over it.

>>388642727
Hope he just hangs himself afterward.

>>388642646
Cuckhead deserves the shittiest of hells for making this scam game. /v/ public enemy number 1.
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>>388642835
Keep shilling for him numale, he is fucking done fucking over the Sonic fanbase
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>>388642769
>They didnt deserve any of my money so I didn't give them money for any version of the game
What are you having trouble understanding about this?
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>>388637608
>denoovo means you can't play a game offline
what
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>>388642808
never advertised as having such
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>>388642850
music is better now grandpa
but anime sure, though i don't know if piracy caused it
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>>388642884
Man, you should seriously just go kill yourself, you little shit guzzler. You do nothing but shitpost about some game and dev you don't like.
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>>388642610
OH FUCK
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>358 replies
>still not a single post with an argument for me to give a fuck about denuvo

nobody even wants to try?
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>No online multiplayer
>You still have to be connected online just to play the game
fucking
perfect
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>>388642884
>Most independent people shat all over it.
Such as?
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They used Denuvo even for this? Come the fuck on Sega, you piece of shit.
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>>388642758
>none are talking about optimization

I guess the threads about the lack of controller issues and the game not running didn't exist.

Sorry, the later isn't that evident because I took a cap of page 1 and didn't bother to crop the ones popping when the game was launching.
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>>388642569
>sega workers are literally monitoring threads on a niche malayan game board so that they will decide for drm measures but only if a single anon posts "I'll pirate it"
>this is what antipiratefags actually believe
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>>388637840
>no modding support

What the fuck? Shit i'm cancelling my preorder.

Why even release it on PC then.
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>>388642983
>damaging controlling THIS hard
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>>388642797
Lawbreakers had 3k players say on per the steam community site, Mania has 11k right now. You're bullshit over "muh top ten sellers is stupid too, Mania is in the top ten.
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>>388642983
the game's always-online, for one, meaning if you get disconnected from the net you will probably lose the ability to play the game whatsoever
also it could impact performance, though no one seems to be bitching about actual performance issues
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Could pirates even be any more assblasted?
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>>388642850
>Zero effort dogshit official subs and dubs for dirty gaijin when we even get them
>Dirty gaijin just pirate it at a higher quality with better translation work for free because paying is objectively the worst way to experience anime
It's almost like businesses bring piracy on themselves or something
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>>388642983
>makes modding more difficult
>can actually degrade pc performance depending on game
>forces you to almost be always online which is fucking retarded for a 2d sonic game with NO ONLINE COMPONENT
Use your brain, you little shit stain.
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>>388642948
>music is better now grandpa
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>>388642926
>Made by a crack team of sonic fan game and hack developers
>"Mania" name was chosen because it represented how the game was made "By the Mania, for the Mania"

I didn't mean direct mod support if that's how you interpreted my post
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>>388642964
Maybe you should stick with a dev who isn't a fucking cuck hack who shat out a $20 romhack then

>>388642610
Holy shit, fucking savage
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>>388643065
>niche
/v/ is not 'niche', anon.
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>>388642983
Then don't
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>>388642850
t. dadrocker
And Koi no Katachi and Your Name are masterpieces.
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um does this mean it won't work in wine? has anyone tried it?
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>>388643140
Then don't play on PC then. Wow, so hard.
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>>388643140
Heh that rhyme though
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>>388642610
FUCKING DELETE IT
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>>388643226
all that's missing is a timely "Ohohoho~"
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>>388636743
>tfw they actually delayed the game to add Denuvo
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>>388643224
(You)
Seriously why did you even attempt to make a reply? Do you even care about video games or do you just want to end the conversation with a quick zinger before you get off /v/ to make hot pockets

>>388643226
Thanks Noob Noob
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>>388641589
Holy shit this song is so fucking shit. I hoped we would get a Crush40 soundtrack again. It would have redeemed this game completely
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>>388642610
jesus fuck the btfo just keeps piling on
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>no talk about how the PC version fixed the Super transformation by assigning it to a separate button than your second jump press in the air
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crack when
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>>388643048
Blame piratefags for spamming the official channels about pirating it.

>>388643065
Not talking about /v/, talking about the official streams on YouTube and twitch. They archive those comments for stats. There was literally enough people saying they'll pirate that it became a problem.
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>>388642797
>Third party

Also, HOLY SHIT that page translation is a fucking mess.
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>>388643390
>PC version added something that a lot of fangames do (and Generations did)
okay
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>>388643129
I've never seen people talk about torrenting a game as much as this.
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>>388642242
can you fucking stop samefagging in this thread

it's pathetic
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>>388642610
DELET THIS

MANIA IS PERFECT AND TOTALLY NOT A REHASH ROMHACK
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>the absolute state of piratefags
lmaoing at ur life desu
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>>388640026
>COme out

Its been out for a week. Shantae is the final boss there is no secret boss and its literally a worse pirates curse. Save your money.
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>>388642610
SHUT YOUR GODDAMN MOUTH
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>>388643361
>Do you even care about video games
Do you? Because it seems like you care more about bitching and moaning online.
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>>388643053
That's not what optimization mean.
Also JoyToKey is a thing on PC since... ages?
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If they listen to the audience and get rid of Denuvo i'll maybe consider not refunding it.
I doubt that they will tho but I'll wait maybe a few days.
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>>388643528
>everyone who doesn't like my god Cuckman is a samefag
kek
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>>388642610
>Sega intentionally fucks over Mania at every step of the way to ensure it doesn't get a sequel
>Gives all the advantages to Forces so sales will be higher, giving them a reason to sack Taxman and his team.
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What's the point of buying Sonic Mania again?
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>w-what it has d-denuvo? I guess I-I won't be buying it jokes on you SEGA!!
>implying any of you had the intentions of buying it in the first place
Piratefags everyone, trying to take the moral highground with an immoral podium.
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>>388643390
That should've never been fucked up in the first place. Just one of the many design flaws of this game.
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All this piratefags mad cuz they can't play the game
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>>388643571
Nah it looks fun. Besides this "if the game isn't as good as my favorite in the series, it's automatically trash" mindset /v/ has adopted is beyond retarded.
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>>388642610
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It feel like consolefags are still mad that the PC version of Sonic Generations and All Stars Transformer were so much better than the console version.
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>>388643390
I'll talk all i can about it when the superior console version gets it.

Thanks for beta testing PC bros!
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>>388642884
Oh look it's blunderfag being autistic about something else!
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>>388643702
All according to Iizuka's keikaku.
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>>388637831
think of how many things in sonic generations require editing the exe and how fucked forces is going to be because of it
no cpkredir for you, hope you like repacking giant cpks everytime you change something goyim
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>>388643528
>lmfaaaooo cuck lmao xD
yeah you're not a samefag
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>Delayed for 2 weeks
>2 weeks later they add some gay always online corporate shit

Definitely not buying now. Magnet link when?
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>>388643721
>blocks moddability (which is the only reason to buy it on PC)
>causes games to have poor performance
>a good thing
Please try harder.
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>>388643721
How much did Sega pay you to post this?
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>flying battery act 2 boss

ANDDDD refunded.
Dark Souls has killed gaming. let's make games not fun and frustrating over a simple platformer
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>>388643749
The whole fucking game is a design flaw. Never fall for the Mania meme.
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>>388643603
You're god damn right I care about video games. I'm a paying customer with pre order in the library and when I eee DRM that will get cracked in a week after a two week delay just for my platform, I get rightfully pissed. It is a perfectly good reason to get pissed. SEGA said they were supposed to give PC more attention as a company and clearly gave none as they stapped on DRM because people said they were pirating it. It doesn't even stop actual pirates anymore, are you fucking kidding me?
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>>388643721
Take it easy with the projection there, champ.
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How long does it usually take for Steam to get back to you about a refund request?
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>>388643721
It's literally purchased on my steam account right now and I'm planning on refunding it. Just sorta sitting on it for now before I make my move.

No game is good enough to support denuvo. And especially because Sega did great PC versions in the form of Bayo Vanquish and Rez this year I want to send them a clear message on the expectations the PC market has for games.
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>>388643717
You help SEGA to keep the DoW3 servers running.
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>>388643904
Just ride the fucking poles on the sides and swing into the boss's body you fucking dunce. If you legitimately refund a platformer because you suck at a boss fight then reconsider gaming entirely.
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>>388643721
muh gamer moralzzzz
muh corporate dick sucking
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>>388643806
I have Generations & S&ASRT on PC, and Mania on PS4. I don't mind that they added Denuvo at all, their own fault for saying how much they'll pirate it.
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>>388639390
>Because everyone threatened, even on the official streams, that they were going to pirate it.
They did this AFTER the rumors of Denuvo.
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>>388641445
Size seems to be a large factor in difficulty cracking. A similar sized game (2Dark) was an early crack last year. I think this will beat F1 2017 unless CPY/STP/Baldman were already halfway through with F1.
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>>388636743
I bought the XCOM 2 expansion instead

if they released it 2 weeks ago I would have been more interested
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DOES DENUVO ACTUALLY BLOCK MODDABILITY? HAS IT IMPACTED PERFORMANCE AS MUCH AS PEOPLE CLAIM IT DOES?
THERE'S BEEN CONFLICTING REPORTS AND YOU FAGGOT SHILLS ON BOTH SIDES WILL SAY ANYTHING.
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>>388643904
It is nearly impossible to even take damage on that boss.
You can even walk right by it and collect your rings again if you managed to fling yourself into the spikes.
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>>388643998
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>>388642610
I hope some of these replies aren't serious? The game's already a success from the console releases alone, and will still sell okay at worst on PC even with all the drm handwringing (which is mostly coming from people that were going to pirate it anyway so...)
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>Caught lighting in a fucking bottle.
>Threw that bottle out of a 10 story window.
How is Sega even alive while doing shit like this?
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Can we everyone here who actually cares if a game has Denuvo or not is scum that should get wiped from this earth?
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>>388643990
Why wait?
Why not just do it now and show everyone.
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>>388643721
>5 rings have been added to your "Gotta Go Fast" account. Thank you for your support!
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>>388643629
So, you need to fix it by yourself? Nice!
Because it says FULL controller support on Steam page
http://steamcommunity.com/app/584400/discussions/0/1473095331510516430/
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>>388638698
>because of the performance issues it was causing.

um no
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>>388641730
>only 30% of have been cracked to a playable state
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denuvo#List_of_games_using_Denuvo

It's more like 70% are cracked and the remainder are usually online-centric games (NFS reboot, For Honor) or VR titles.
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I can't believe he said this, can we get him fired?
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>The absolute state of piratecucks right now
Going to buy it again when I get home after playing it on switch.
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>>388637854
God just shut the fuck up
Same comment over and over again. Fucking cringe.
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>>388644078
Of course it's mostly piratefags making up shit.
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>>388644103
Anon we all knew the game was shit from day uno

just accept it before your jimmies get rustled.
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>>388639075
denuvo means no cpkredir.
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>>388644059
They did before as well, you know this.
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>>388642610
How is this BTFO if everyone who played it 2 weeks ago had a great time?
Your slow, lazy ass is the only person who fucked up.
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>>388643957
A few hours in my experience. I'd give them some leniency here, they might be getting hammered by requests.
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>>388640726
This shit better be real Anon
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>>388639774
You are clearly the retard in this situation. He's not speaking in code, he's talking about a fucking article he read.
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>>388643990
>51 minutes played and 0 achievements

Jesus Christ. Stop pretending you enjoy the game just to have a point.
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>>388644140
Laziness/This was supposed to be a nice day that involved a lot of Sonic Mania for me and everything about this nice day already got fucked up. Sonic Mania was the last thing left so I dont want to admit that my whole day is fucked even though it is
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>the moment the game releases on PC, the threads go to shit
wew
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>>388644278
oh I see how it is
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wtf it's not reading my dualshock 4 reeeeeeeeeee
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>>388642082
F1 2016
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>>388644305
It's the real program files but you cannot run it without a crack which does not exist yet.
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>>388644249
Imagine if he legit said that though lol
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>>388636743
shit, really? just when I thought I was about to buy my first sonic game. guess I'll wait for the crack
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>>388644078
>DOES DENUVO ACTUALLY BLOCK MODDABILITY?
no
They even managed to get Just Cause fanmade multiplayed on the tird one.
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>>388643998
10/10

>>388644078
Yes and yes, but performance probably wouldn't be impacted on a game like sonic mania. It DOES however stop you from playing the game offline. Sonic Mania has no online component to the actual game.
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>>388644289
I don't remember anything happening that made people THREATEN to pirate it. Some people admitted it, sure, but they weren't trying to send a message of "I will pirate this game if [x] doesn't happen" to my memory
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>TFW you bought the game legit on steam, only for it to be delayed for 2 weeks because of piracy fears.
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>>388644336
How would I have cheevos already? Or give a shit about them, ever? Under any context or circumstance?

I unlocked super peel out so I can't even imagine what's behind achievements if it isn't unlocks and shit.
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>>388644348
I'm a pcfag and fucking hate the pc community because of high pessimism and a lot of whiny faggots.
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>>388644348
It's amazing
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>>388644104
>Valkyria Chronicles becomes a high-profit seller on Steam and PS4
>make an entirely new entry in the series that has nothing to do with the rest of the series and is a fucking awful game

>Phantasy Star Online 2 has a massive western userbase that contribute to the game's economy and playerbase
>persecute and ban anyone who is explicitly outed as a foreign player while never bothering to make a localized version BECAUSE the players being there already renders it moot

>make a good Sonic game
>throw out everything that made it good for two games in a row, even when they reuse the same gameplay style as the good one
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>>388644216
>Because it says FULL controller support on Steam page
the vast majority of people and devs have Xinput in mind.
Not DirectInput.
If that can please you, Sonic All Stars is probably not compatible with your Logitech Wheel either.
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>>388644249
what kind of misguided little fuckhead would even make this
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>>388643838
holy shit he falseflags as a québécois too? who the fuck spells it as québéc
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>>388638302
I am sick and tired of these filthy console war redditors. If I was a janitor for just one day I'd clean this shit for good
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>Preordered game on August 9th, thinking it was coming out on the 15th.
>Want to refund
>Steam doesn't typically refund purchases more than 14 days.

Way to fucking jew, Sega.
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Unrelated, but who the fuck is the announcer in the time trial? Sounds really familiar for some reason.
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>>388644216
Just restart steam/reboot your computer, see if that works. This sounds rudimentary and retarded, but it got it working for some random guy on Sonic Retro.
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>>388640491
>any modding possibility is dead now.
Read the fucking thread you shitposter, this isnt true.

I love how EVERY post pointing this out has no replies.
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So is Sonic Advance still better than this?
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>>388642054
>fake news
kys drumpftard
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>>388644347
Why wait? Get a refund ASAP so you can grab a nice, fun game that doesn't treat consumers like shit. I'm sure there's something on your wishlist you had your eye on, maybe some deal on the front page you were thinking of. Why not use those 18 bucks for something good?
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All invasive DRM is bad
It exists solely to satisfy the IP license holder that the money will go to them first.
Companies are not your friend. You are a walking wallet to them.

Piracy was the only reason companies started treating customers with respect.
Without piracy you would not have any digital stores like you have now, no streaming, no youtube.
>>
AAHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>388644447
Not saying specifically that they threatened, just that they were going to in general and in threats.
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>>388644614
a refund's period only really begins for pre-ordered games once the game releases
you should be able to refund still
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>delayed two weeks so that rhey could get Denuvo in
Defend this.
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>>388644249
this can't be real, can it?
>>
Sonic Team is dead:
-Blame Aaron & Sergio
-Blame Taxman
-Blame Iizuka
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>>388644676
Yeah it had Amy.
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>>388644216
That's not what full controller support measn
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>>388638703
Get a better PC, if a game doesn't launch it's your problem
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>>388640648
>different people make different posts
>wow you guys are such fucking hypocrites
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>>388638220
>download a game using the internet
>complain about needing to be online for the first run

You people are all actually retarded
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>>388644249
>>388644556
It's fake you mong

>>388644614
Stop lying, pre-orders get the same treatment as normal refunds with the release date starting the two weeks. if you played more than two hours that's your own fault
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>>388644249
Nice edit of Aaron's tweet.
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>>388644641
Daytona USA guy
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>>388638858
>Did I mention the game is locked at 60fps too?
This was fucking obvious. Sprite games are always locked at 60 because pathetic indie developers are too retarded to see the benefit of higher framerates

Fuck sake we could run this at 2000fps
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>>388639250
Is this shitposting or legit shilling?
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>mfw everyone is bullying best boy Whitehead because Sega fucked him and the rest of the fans over

Like seriously tell me someone who got their start making sonic romhacks is actually happy with this turn of events.
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>>388644676
It wasn't sucking the cock of Classicfags while being really fun to play, not to mention it had all original stages.
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>>388644676
fuck no

The only classic game that Advance is better than is the first one. Maybe CD.

Mania is either the best or second-best Sonic game to date.
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>>388644726
>All invasive DRM is bad
Especially Steam
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>>388644676
It had no DRM keeping people from playing it, so yeah.
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>>388644745
I already gifted Sonic 1 to someone. I'd feel like a dick for asking them for it back.
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>>388642907
retard
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>>388644873
Damage control, he can suck a cock. Fucking stupid austard.
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>>388641017
just like nier automata amirite?
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sega is the monkey paw of video game companies
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>>388644676
Yes
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>>388644676
Sega has yet to make a 2D Sonic game that surpasses this in the post-classic era.
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>>388642151
>patch out Denuvo at a later date
Is there a possibility of this happening once they feel they're past the most important part of the sales? Does it ever happen with other games?

I don't have the most stable internet, I just want to be able to play this without getting booted out whenever my connection cuts out.
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>>388644775
Blame:
Hideki Okamura: President and COO (2014–2015); Chairman (2015–2017)
Haruki Satomi: President and CEO (2015–17); Chairman and CEO (2017–present)
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>Denuvo
dropped
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>>388644676
Mania is overrated.
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>>388644774
It's an edit.

He did, however, tweet this out a few weeks ago. It kind of seems like Sega fucked him and he couldn't do anything about it.
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>>388644814
I just saw what steam said. I've never preordered before. Guess I could ask.
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What's the deal with denuvo and playing offline?

I've heard variously that denuvo titles are always online, other times that you just need to check in online every week or something, and other times that you need to check in every time you install it on a new machine or change your computer parts, and sometimes there's just an intial check in the first time you start the game up and that's it

Which is it? Does it differ per title?
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>>388644814
don't know why you quoted me. it should have been pretty fucking obvious I was talking about the guy who made the image
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>Denuvo prevents offline play
>Piratefags have to buy the game
>Definitive version will be Switch port
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>>388644940
I mean, Sonic 1 is super easy to find online, and even Sonic Retro's numerous romhacks let you download bin files of modified versions of the game liberally. It also doesn't help that the Steam version of S1 is tied to an emulator program that is, well, kind of fucking terrible.
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>>388644979
If I wanted to play a futanari game, I'd play Rondo Duo.
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>>388645002
The same happened with DOOM I think
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>>388644874
Manianiggers will screech at this post.

>>388644972
This. Fucking faggot deserves to be hanged for such a fucking scam game.

>>388645029
Mania is fucking shit.
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>>388644676
Proof that DIMPS can make quality games.
Also the air dash was great, it let you build up speed while keeping the instashield.
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>>388644873
Maybe he should have tried doing something independently, like the Spark guy.
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>>388641797
so did lawbreakers ricky retardo
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>>388645002
It happened with D44M. But I think that's the only precedent tho.
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>>388641086
Shut up you jew if I saw you in real life i'd fuck you up
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>>388644676
Yeah seems to, had more love and soul put into it as well
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>>388645049
was a reaction to a news story
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>>388645069
Why are you quoting me?
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>>388644979
Yeah? You do know that it's already cracked, right?
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>>388644806
it's not just the first run dumbass, denuvo requires periodic license checks
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>>388645002
It has happened before actually.
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>>388645081
>It also doesn't help that the Steam version of S1 is tied to an emulator program that is
Yeah, me too I expected Sonic 1 to run through Excel.
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>>388636743
>I guess I'll pirate it.

Like you weren't going to pirate it before. You were just waiting for the tiniest bit of justification.
>>
just tried playing it while in offline mode, indeed it doesn't allow it, for once, haters weren't just talking out of their asses
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>>388645075
Nintendo planned this all along. Mark was just their puppet.
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>>388645128
What are you, a residential anti-Mania-kun at this point? Get a life.
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Might as well get Sonic Forces instead of Sonic Mania.
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>>388645002
Yes
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>>388644676
It has a higher rating than Mania, just barely, but it is there. No one bats an eye because it is a portable title.
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>>388645217
>making stuff up

Yeah, you people are retarded
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Why are gaming companies such fucking children?
You're not preventing shit you fucking niggers. YOU CANNOT WIN AGAINST PIRATES/HACKERS THEY'RE FUCKING UNSTOPPABLE DEAL WITH IT YOU PATHETIC CHILDREN AND STOP TREATING YOUR LOYAL CUSTOMERS LIKE FILTH
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>>388644556
>>388644774
>>388644814
>>388644837
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS IMPUDENCE
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>>388638295
BLACKLISTED.com
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>>388645270
Forces will have denuvo.
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>>388642427
Because Sega doesn't trust you.
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>>388645301
Fucking jew, I will ever ever buy his game.
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>>388645224
Way to cherry pick only part of the context and not the rest that says their emulator is garbage. And, in one way of playing it, tied to a virtual room thing that is inexplicably horribly optimized no matter how good your hardware is.
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>>388641352
>leaked early on switch
>released normally on ps4 (xbone? I dunno if it came out on that nor do I care)
>delayed for 2 weeks only on pc
>pc people with a console cancel their pc preorders and buy it on a console they have instead
>pc numbers are poor
not that hard to figure out why.
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>>388645293
kill yourself tBh

>Denuvo, like DRM in general, offers no benefit to legitimate game owners. In fact, Denuvo explicitly strips away significant rights of ownership that legitimate owners have traditionally enjoyed and reasonably expected on an open platform like the PC. Denuvo blocks many forms of modding, which prevents owners from extending the functionality of their games or adding new features (e.g. GeDoSaTo, ENB, MP mods), prevents fan-made patches that fix bugs or restore content (e.g. VtMB, KOTOR 2), prevents conversions and unofficial expansions (e.g. The Long War, Endereal, Gekokujo), and prevents the creation of compatibility mods that help to preserve old games long after their publishers have abandoned supporting them (e.g. MMO private servers, System Shock Portable, OpenRA).

>Denuvo also further guts preservation by making games dependent on online activation with third-party servers. Once it's no longer expedient for a publisher to maintain those servers, they get turned off, as does the ability for owners of that game, present and future, to install and play it. Fundamentally, Denuvo positions the publisher as a gatekeeper between the owner of the game and the game itself, requiring the owner to ask permission of the publisher before interacting with the game in any major way. If permission is not granted, for any reason or no reason, the owner must comply without recourse. It's a big shift in the zero-sum power balance between players and publishers. Denuvo gives players nothing, it only takes away what they already have.
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And that's why everyone avoids PC like a plague. Just look at these mad faggots, it's amazing.
I hope it sends SEGA a clear message that games like Yakuza and Persona should never leave the console market.
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>>388645197
god you are just fucking retarded. it's because you quoted my post here >>388644556 and completely misunderstood me.
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>>388636743
Just get it digitally for your Switch like a normal person.
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>>388645358
I will go play the Advance series then.
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>>388645049
classic sega. well, they just lost my sale. still excited to play the game when it's cracked though
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>>388642402
0%
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>>388645075
>The definitive version is the one that got leaked.
>The version that got delayed is the shittier one.
>>
Oohhhhh AHAHAHHH
>>
>>388645181
250 East Olive Avenue
Burbank, CA 91502

Come at me bro
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>>388645387
Then just use another emulator
holy fuck
>>
>>388645424
Why are you quoting me?
>>
>>388645420
>And that's why everyone avoids PC like a plague
because of butthurt consolefags falseflagging? top lel
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>>388645403
>offers no benefit to legitimate game owners

The piratefag tears are benefit enough
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>>388645301
DELEt this now
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>>388645296
>YOU CANNOT WIN AGAINST PIRATES/HACKERS
You can. Just stop making PC ports.
>>
>>388645192
you're fucking retarded if you can't figure out that based on the timing (just right after the delay was announced) that it was a hint towards Sonic Mania having DRM
the whole fact that a slightly relevant news story was published at the same time is an excuse he could use if Sega complained that he was trying to hint towards that
>>
Skidrow here, I'll crack it after I get some sleep
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>>388638291
lol maybe Nier is just a poorly coded port?
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>>388645385
>wanting people to work for free

Kill yourself, commie.
>>
>>388645358
But what if it doesn't, what if Sega intentionally puts Denuvo on Mania, but leaves it out of Forces to ensure Forces gets more PC sales?
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>>388642983
https://whyisdenuvobad.github.io/
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>>388645301
HOLY FUCK
>>
>561 replies
>178 posters
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>>388645585
I bought it AND refunded it. Fucking kike deserves this game to be his last.
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>>388645545
You're dense to not realize I was telling him the Steam version of Sonic 1 isn't a very good version to go for, anon.
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>>388645571
I'm glad I can't pirate games on the PS4, WiiU, or 3DS, phew!
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>>388642842
no, Denuvo is actually almost everything RIGHT with DRM, especially with how salty it gets piratefags
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>>388645687
DRM only ends up fucking over legitimate buyers most of the time, shill

pirates will just bypass it eventually

i don't know why you can't understand this
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>>388645687
>I only like it when it's happening to the people I hate.
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>>388645605
Well, no idea if this is legit.
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>>388644062
I'm just hoping they crack all of the big Denuvo releases that come out before October because there are a few Denuvo games coming out October that I want.
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>>388645630
>Denuvo games require reactivation if you haven't played them in a while or if you change any of your computer's hardware,
that is wrong, I JUST went offline mode and tried playing Mania (right after playing it in online mode) and it wouldn't let me play it, so there's no leniency
>>
>>388645545
Could you stop being clinically retarded? They offered sonic 1 as compensation for the two-week delay. When you have a shit house emulator and the non-taxman version of sonic 1 (where the entire internet can provide good versions of both the emulator AND the rom for absolutely free) it equates to a hamfisted less than nothing gesture saying "sowwy pc customers!" Stay in school because you clearly aren't applying anything you've learned so far
>>
>>388645192
No, it wasn't. He never once said that, that was somebody else jumping to a conclusion (and trying to defend him) and it turned out that that was wrong, like so many people guessed.
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>>388645802
false. I've played DOOM and MGSV offline plenty of times
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>>388643990
you launched the game so it put denuvo malware on your computer now. and unlike a lot of other shitty DRM, there's no official removal tool. even if you refund the game, uninstall it, uninstall steam, you're going to have the denuvo cock up your ass until you reinstall your OS.
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>>388645420
what? PC gets the majority of games and many games come to PC years before consoles get them.

I have noticed more companies implementing a PC delay now though so maybe you'll end up right in a few months. fuck, if that really happens, I'll end up actually pirating every game instead of the 40% of games I pirate now
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>>388645662
it's pretty obvious what's going on with the several otherwise unremarkable posts in this thread that have a bunch of similar circlejerking replies for no reason
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>>388645760
>pirates will just bypass it eventually
That's the point.

Denuvo is no big deal because the consumer doesn't even notice it. If you think there's nothing redeemable about it then you're obviously underage.

>>388645769
eat shit, pirate :)
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>>388645662
>>388645946
>still butthurt that /v/ is turning against Kikeman
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>>388645813
>offer you something
>wahwahwah
nobody care.
I'm playing it right now, and I'm having fun.
Thanks for all the twitters posts about the bugs, so now, the pc version have tons of bug fix.
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>>388645545
Wow, you should stop posting right now you fucking retard
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>>388645605
>Implying Denuvo would affect sales a considerable amount

Normies aren't autistic enough to care
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>>388645969
Fuck off, shill.
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>>388645817
receipts
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>>388644859
it's because game speed is tied to framerate. go try playing sonic CD at over 60fps, smartass.
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>>388645880
try doing it with Sonic Mania right now, I dare you
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>>388645969
>Denuvo is no big deal because the consumer doesn't even notice it.
the consumer doesn't notice DRM until it starts fuckign with the game and rootkits your PC

thanks mr denuvo
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>>388645894
Denuvo is not a root kit
>>
>>388644676
Sonic Advance one of the best classic styled games.

Why can't SEGA make another game like Advance?
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>>388645213
a crack doesn't mean the steam version removed denuvo you dipshit
>>
>>388646085
What?
>>
>>388645969
How can I be a pirate if I bought the game legit?
>>
>>388646115
yeah and Denuvo isn't a rootkit

>>388646095
Well obviously it isn't required because of Denuvo but by some developer decision
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>>388645894
Stop lying
>>
>>388645175
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denuvo#List_of_games_formerly_using_Denuvo
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